If you are going to go to the trouble of burying clothes for emergency use to keep from freezing to death, might I suggest... Go the extra mile and simply use a vacuum sealer and individually package the various items of clothes. They will stay dry and last longer for the long term storage. also using a vacuum sealer greatly reduces the size of clothing and sleaping bags, etc. After vacuum sealing them then put into the hard shell cache container. If the container filled with water for whatever reason, the clothes will remain dry. Garbage bags get wet inside surprisingly easy. My 2 cents. That's all the spare change I have at the moment.
Love the idea. I would also recommend som vac sealed pet food. Even if you don't personally own the pet. ( people often acquire extra pets in a natural disaster like the neighbors or a relative pet after they pass. ( dogs cats and long lived birds are most common now in wills as whom gets custody) parrot live 50 years. People ran from Katrina with their pets.
Omg, this guy’s humor is awesome. I could listen to him for hours. I might even learn something too. Yes having a community with people who can depend on each other is your most important cache.
I've done it in the past .late 90s . my group buried a ammo can out in the desert in California. Did ten paces off a large Joshua tree. Went back 2 years later and found it. We had MREs ,Ammo,socks, and a bottle of Wild turkey ! Everything was good !
I put one in a dog pen with 2 big GSD's. Almost forgot it(3 yrs later)when I moved. Fresh as the day I buried it. No one ever found it, much less tried to get in the pen to dig it up. Hmmm....... 🤔
@@SurvivalDispatch Even if you are, we all know there are ways around it! Poison Ivy, Poison Sumac, etc. ANYTHING that makes it not important or something to avoid is a good thing!
I know a man who sealed rifles in two Mylar bags with oxygen scavengers. Buried them under a concrete slab for 2 years. Dug them up and the cavity was filled with water. The bags were floating. After opening, there was not a speck of anything wrong with the rifles.
The comment about having a cache 1/2 way home from work is a very good point. Because I drive about 30 km to a commuter train station I treat my car as a cache. I keep a case of water, some non-perishable food, extra cloths and a few other things in the car. This also covers any sort of emergency while driving too! Should SHTF while I’m at work and I have to walk home the tracks the train travels on are the most direct route and my car is parked half way home. I get to my car I might even be able to drive it depending on what’s going on. Also along the way near the start I have various relatives and friends who I can drop in on to take shelter and rest.
@@donnamccombs8882 no tint and it’s an SUV so I don’t have a box in the back labelled “Survival Cache” lol. Stuff is just randomly stored like in the door cubby or glove box. Anything I want to hide goes under the floor where the spare tire is. My next vehicle will be bought with more secure storage in mind.
Since you have a fairly stable waypoint in the train station there, I would say look around for places that you could hide a certain amount of really mission critical stuff. In the case of a severe crisis people coming off of the train there will be tempted by cars, and you would want at least a little bit left in case something happened to your vehicle while you were at work. I would definitively not put a full unit there, since it is public property and fairly easy to access. But it would give you that extra security step just in case something happens.
@@leechowning2712 I can’t imagine any place nearby to stash things however I do have a friend who lives close. I could ask them if I can leave stuff there. I wouldn’t worry about my car being broken into by people getting off the train because they are all working commuters and would be rushing to try and get home too. On the other hand if the trains aren’t running then I could see the risk of my car being broken into increasing as time goes by. In any disaster like a grid down it takes time for people to realize that the normal rules are slipping away.
I have used caches in real world urban situations. Although I do think of myself as a preper, they can also be useful in day to day life. A few years back when I was traveling around Europe I hid a cache in a bridge cavity on the edge of a major city. In it I stored a tent, sleeping bag, knife, cooker and cloths (things I didn't want to loose but if it happened don't hold sentimental value). Not carrying this stuff when I did smaller trips gave me a lot more freedom but also saved me time and money not having to pay for checked luggage on flights or storage fees.
My grandfather always went with. If you want to hide something do it in plain sight. He kept a small junk area that had different things hidden in there.
Alan is so far the *only* person to mention a "sod plug". The roots of grasses tend to hold the dirt together so you can remove a section of grass, dig your hole, put the cache in, fill the hole, then put the "sod plug" of grasses back on top and it's like it *never happened* Gotta love Alan Kay! Sad to see he didn't include a stepladder though xD
one thing about the plug, make sure it has at least 3 inches of dirt because if you chop the roots too much the plant will wither and brown and be very obvious.
I just have to say I really LOVE coming across informative reasonable videos by self responsible people I WISH were my neighbors and friends! Thank you!
In climates where the ground freezes you have to take that into consideration. Retrieving a cache buried under even just a few inches of frozen soil can be extremely difficult if not impossible. Our loam/clay soil, if fairly wet in the fall when the ground freezes almost has the hardness of concrete.
Native american Pemmican/wasna food caches have been found 100 years later and still edible! So your hard work now could be used by your kids or grandkids if you hand knowledge and locations down to them.
How about techniques for finding your caches? If there is cleared ground and you put a cache there, it don't take long for an area to be overgrown with plants, bushes, trees. Getting your bearings in unfamiliar grown up land is difficult. Moving through grown up areas is difficult.
Three takeaways I had for why you want a cashe and what goes in one and where it should be. (1) Getting from A to B. (2) Getting from A to A. (3) Splitting your eggs. Obviously, #1 is the most traditional - in which your cashe is your resupply source for a journey from a point A (usually where you live, work, or otherwise often are) to point B (your BoL - whether that is your home or some other place). For those you should know where you are coming from, where you are going to, and have what you need to carry less. So, if you have a BoL that you could drive to in an hour, but will take you 2-4 days to walk to, keeping it closer to 2 days with some resupply (or even supply) is helpful. I know if traveling with my littles, I would rather have a cheap tent waiting in a supply barrel at the end of the day than carry one big enough for the family. #2 is for when you are pushed from your home and you want to retake it - so a big of food, water, weaponry, and ammo so that rather than being picked off in the Alamo, you can flee quickly knowing that you can then come back and pick them off in your Alamo. #3 doesn't really even need to be in a cashe - a separated shed, storage unit, RV, etc - whatever it takes to split your stores.
I just opened a 4yr old cash and checked everything out and it's still like new , even ate one of the protein bars that was in there and it was still very very good, it's a good thing to know how to make and hide them because when the time comes and you need ammo and some food yeah you will be glad to have a few of these around.
Great video as always. I live next to Mount Shasta. Fire season has replaced summer. I’m going to bury caches just in case my house burns down. Actually things in CA are so bad I’ll say when my house burns down. When my grown daughters were little we went GeoCaching all the time. Great family fun. Now it’s just for survival. My next purchase is a small towable trailer to keep ready during fire season so I won’t have to take time worrying about what to grab and can just concentrate on my animals.
If you prepare the bagged cache at home, you can use your shopvac to suck the air out. Also, PVC can be used as a cache. Cut some 4" or 6" to the length you want. Seal one end with a PVC cap. Use a threaded cap on the other end. Drill a hole in the top and install an eyebolt. This can help pulling it up. Paint the PVC with some exterior house paint for longer term added protection. Post hole diggers can be used to bury it. Put it down about three feet. Drive a 6" piece of rebar into the ground above it. People using a metal detector will give up when they find the rebar. (More info in a "reply")
If you store ammo in one of these PVC caches, put the ammo in glass jars with metal lids that seal well. Paint the metal lids with some Rust-Oleum paint. PVC off-gases. I don't know what the long term effects of this is on guns and ammo. Also, you can get Rust Block Vapor Tabs from Brownells and probably on Amazon. These are made specifically for guns and ammo. I would still seal any ammo stored in PVC in a jar. I use mason jars.
I see people using all kinds of elaborate containers, most difficult to find. I actually prefer the large diameter PVC as you describe. So easy to bury, no massive hole to dig. Metal detectors won't find them.
If you are burying small quantities of things you dont want a dog to be able to smell. Do the usual drying, vacuum sealing, etc as many times as you want, and at the end, pack in the center of a container filled with activated charcoal so the package is surrounded on all sides. This will absorb the odors the package exudes. The surface area of AC is equal to that of a football field size filter.
@@donnamccombs8882 No, dogs are able to differentiate between different smells. This is why drug smugglers cannot simply use cologne. Dogs nose work differently from humans. You can seal-package drugs and put it in gasoline tank, and within a few hours the smell will leak out from the plastic package, permeating through it on a moloculour level, and poice dogs can smell it. An ex-cop who made a documentary about this showed how it works.
Ya know Allen never thought about the fire aspect of cacheing . Great idea back in the teen yrs I had to live in the woods for awhile . Had a cache about every mile I had small dead drops and caches every mile . In case I needed supplies . If I left it in my shelter it would have stolen
I don't have a Bug out bag. I've got a get home bag. I travel 30 miles daily for work. And worst case scenario my vehicle doesn't work and I've got to walk. I've got a Get Home Bag in my vehicle so I can walk home. I'm also planning on burying a get home bag near my work in case my vehicle is stolen, or looted. I'll still have supplies to get home.
I tried a few caches in Texas and left them in the ground for18 months. All three had a tremendous amount of condensation accumulation due to the hot air temperatures, and the cooler nights, etc.... (I'm talking an inch of water in them all) All three containers were water-tight. One was a canning jar, one was a 18" section of PVC buried horizontally with one end cap glued on, and the other with a gasket-sealed screw-on lid, and one was a container that a military missile ships in. (I dug a 5 foot deep hole with a post-hole digger attached to a tractor, and lowered the tube in vertically. This one had the most moisture accumulation (about 2") - likely because the top only had about 3-4" of dirt covering it. I had put an old SKS in this tube, and fortunately, I put it in with the barrel up, so I only got a rusted butt-plate and a water stained buttstock) None had more than 5" of dirt covering them. I am thinking this is what may have contributed to the moisture collection....If they were deeper, it would likely have been a more temperature-steady placement and prevented the condensation? - Not sure about that. In northern or more dry areas, this may not be a problem, but in Texas, Louisiana, Alabama, etc it will be something to try before you put all your goodies out there and see if you have issues with it. Another lesson I learned from the testing - if you set tubes vertically....Cut a disc out of 1/2" ply and drill a hole in the center, then thread a length of paracord through it....lower that in to the tube, then drop your cache items on top of that, and keep 3-4 feet of cord exposed at the top of the tube as you put the lid on and seal it up....This way you can just uncover the top of the tube, open it up, then pull the cord up to bring all the contents up. (with a short tube, this may not matter, but if you have a 3-4 foot tube, it will save you from having to dig out the entire tube, plus, you can re-use if you need to)
@@ForgingFreedomTV May work...I will try a few caches with different things in it....Maybe a mix of dry oatmeal and rice in one...Deeper holes should help too
@@crashingstoans5054 How much dirt did you have covering yours up? (Mine only had about 3" covering them) I am thinking if you get about 3-4 feet down, it would help keep them from getting so hot, which I think is what caused the condensation,
Southern boys. Get up north, you want to make it water tight. PVC with both ends glued properly, paint it. Make your hole a bit big, so you can get gravel at the bottom and around the sides for drainage. And get as much of it as you can below the frost line. Yeah, not joking on that. And for the mid-commute cache, find a storage facility that is close to your walking route and 24hr access. Cache a pack, sleep gear, and a cot or good air pad. You literally are caching a hard and dry shelter. Hide your stuff behind the christmas crap and old patio furniture. Also that looks like a Stewie. Maybe a Fry.
Great video. You not only provide many good ideas, you inspire many more. BTW, cayenne powder mixed with black pepper deters all but the most determined animals. Just mix it and put it on the ground above your cache.
I use to be a community service worker at my church. One day one of the homeless people that used our service stopped in. He had to serve some time and did yard work to earn money. He informed me that he had buried his tools and supplies in our back property. There was a great deal of sand there. He believed they would be safe, that the Heavenly Father would watch them. They were still there! Just a thought.
I know a fella who was going to prison, so he sold everything he owned and buried a heap of cash in a pine plantation. He got out of prison 5 years later and the pine plantation was cut down and he had no reference point to where he buried it, This was before GPS
You are the first one I have ever heard mention using a grave as a cache location. That has been my idea for years. Also underneath the big high tension power lines towers I believe would be good location. It won't be disturbed, out of the way and along easy travel corridor to get to.
Couple other things to think about, containers with air in them float, so be careful to do shallow burials in flood prone areas, also if you want to reduce your overall foot print, think tall and skinny: 4" pvc with capped ends buried vertically only needs a 6" wide hole dug with post hole diggers. Just make sure you have the means to get back into it, if you show up without tools to retrieve your goods.
Have you considered a 6” pipe as a sleeve for your 4” and leaving a length of cord so you can pull it out after uncovering the top? We’ve tried the principle with a old metal 200L barrel as a sleeve for a plastic 150L barrel. Btw the contents were fairly light, mainly camping gear so it just needed a A frame to pull it out.
I would recommend matches instead of lighter for longer "shelf life", after checking ny BOB last year i only use matches, i had two in it before, and one had the ferro corrode to dust, and the other had welded the ferro to the "wheel".
Omg, its jan 1, 2024, i just watched season 1 ep 11 of Alan Kay winning! Ive watched him on yt for yrs.. what a fantastic human being! Would like to see more yt vids for sure!
Lots of people have mentioned moisture problems, and cellular core PVC drain is an answer. Instead of a screw top lid, glue BOTH sides and include a cheap sawzall blade, drywall saw, whatever is cheapest and available packed in cosmo or lanolin and bagged up in the hole. The best watertight is plumbing tight. Proper glue joints will never leak. Also the little sawblade on a leatherman/gerber will do the job as the PVC is low density and cuts rather easy. Same with any bushcraft saw or even a sharp hatchet if you need in there bad enough. Heat also makes PVC brittle so a few heat-cool cycles and a rock would get you in caveman style. Note this is not the best for food, as those fumes penetrate and linger. Better funky food than starving though.
Tip: Always bury your container UPSIDE DOWN. I know you think they are water tight but play it safe. If your lid lets water seep through you will be opening a barrel that is FULL of water and will have ruined anything inside.
Very good video, I bought cache barrels about 10 inch deep at Dunhams on half price clearance in the gun and ammo area. $ 30. marked at $ 15. . . . . I also had my daughter born in 99. if she lives to be just over 100, she will have lived in 3 centuries, 1900s, 2000s, and 2100s, and I have Aunts that lived to be 102 and 99
I hate to sound like a particularly modern nerd... But honestly if you're going to be a prepper invest in a 3D printer. Mid grade ones are already down to $200. It is very hard to stockpile everything you'll need and parts for everything you'll need, and that 3D printer can replace almost any part that does not specifically need to be metal. For the prepper mindset I would use the older style line printers rather than resin because the resin breaks down after time. Rolls of plastic filament are very easy to store and extremely cheap. So long as it is stored powered down an EM burst does not directly endanger it. Even better if you can store it inside of a metal container, because the container will block the great majority of the damage. I also already have downloaded significant portions of the files, especially ones that the government is likely to take down in case of a uprising, and have them stored in a pendrive. The printer itself never connects to the internet and the pen drive permits me to keep those files no matter what happens.
My preping is based on shelter in place. I have many reasons for this but some basic ones are my house is more secure than a tent or shelter, my house holds more preps than I could ever carry and I know my house and property well giving me a strong defensive advantage. However, I am aware if bad times come I may have to tactical retreat and this is where a cache may be required. If I have to leave with nothing it gives me the ablity to resupply before returning or moving on.
Excellent advice re the graves. Back in the '60 when Brit and Oz forcers were dealing with the Malay Confrontation the so called independence fighters were trained by the Chi Com (Chinese Communists) and they used fake graves extensively to hide huge caches of food and munitions, Chinese family graves are about as big as a double bed and usually bug into a hillside, which made them excellent places to ambush. When the smoke cleared we'd collected any intel, empty the cache of supplies and back fill it with the booby trapped bodies as a warning to the next group who wanted to use it. Apparently it really played with their minds.
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Cache being a french word should be pronounced CASH. The word cachet (or Cashay) also exists but is a whole other words meaning "a mark, or seal of distinction, elegance and class"
Using caches to come back from burnout suggests more need for thought and planning. Fires and mudslides and severe flooding can overrun local caches, making the contents unusable or unreachable.
@@PatrickKQ4HBD My idea was more like: 'where would I be when the fire was out?' With mudslides and flooding, nothing looks the same and caches can be wildly displaced.
We took large plastic barrels, cam- painted them and hid them north, south, east and west of our primary location deep, deep in the woods. In case we ever needed to fall back. It gives us a chance to regroup and pick the buggers off one by one...smile. In each barrel there is a tent, H20, food, clothing, fire starting tools, flashlights, knives, ammo with a shot gun and rifle in each. We had to replace the original plastic barrels with steel barrels because bear mauled a few pretty badly and compromised them. I think the steel should be bear proof... Anyway, the point is that a cashes is prepping. I am thinking of setting some up on my bug out route; it will greatly improve my survival odds.
Cacher: (casheyuh) To hide. (Infinitive) Cache: (cash) Hide. (Imperative) Caché/Cachée: (cashay) Hidden. (M/F) Cachette: (cashette) A hiding place. Cachet: (cashai) A stamp or seal. Thank you, this has been my Ted talk.
Use caution with using petroleum jelly on the rubber seals of your ammo cans. Some things may compromise the rubber seals. It is usually fine and advisable to seal ammo cans without any oil or grease.
An excellent video, I've been thinking about have supplies stashed in strategic locations. My thing was having one every so many miles towards my bug out location. So I can set up base for period of time in each location
You can also plant blackberries or prickly pear cactus or anything thorny and preferably fruit bearing. Nobody will want to walk through it and in the meantime you can pick the berries/prickly pears, giving you the excuse to check on your cache....
If you have a good cash site put more than one container in the area. One container might have all of the metal objects in it, another container might be filled with non-metallic things such as clothing and food. Depending on the circumstance you might want to add a container to cash water in and a container to cash gasoline in. The caches should be far enough apart that finding one cash would not immediately lead to the others. I also would also suggest that rather than loose items you put them in one or more bags that you can retrieve quickly if you have to leave the site quickly.
When he dug that hole he should have used a garbage bag tarp or poncho to put the dirt on and saved the top intact if possible in a small separate pile. Then when back filling you have less disturbed discolored soil. And if there’s too much to be level you can move it away to be hidden and dispersed. And then replace sod plants and same colored top soil as surrounding top soil.
About the pronounciation : Cache (pron. "Cash") is a French word (cacher = to hide. Pron. "caché"). We use this same word for caches. "Une cache". The kids' game "hide and seek" is called "cache-cache" ;) Cheers from Belgium and thanks for the video. Nice woods :)
Looks like those of us who live in colder climates have some ideas to experiment with this winter. Thanks to all as someday this skill may become paramount to survival!
Awesome man that's wisdom that one should be doing, just cause you never know, I live in eastern middle Tennessee and it's good to know there's still some good ole boys that have common knowledge of the outdoors and how to apply it very beneficial, thanks.
Great to see you in a video. After winning Alone you disappeared. Haven't seen anything on how you are doing / what you are doing.. Congrats on the win and hope you put out a lot more vids
Looks like you have several wild ginseng growing on the side of your hill when you was messing with that blue plastic jug. When you typically see fern plants, wild ginseng isn’t that far away.
Thanks for that thought! Nice to know. Wherever I'm at, first thing I do is look at the plants to see what is around. People see weeds, I see medicine and food. 😉
That whole thing about cachet and prince and skipping had me laughing so hard I almost wet myself! You guys are just way too funny and can be serious at the same time
i have used every square inch of my properties to do scrapping, lots of metal still above the ground even today, i actually took photos today of a 1930's eagle bicycle with all origional parts including the metal emblem on the head, was hoping to take a photo of the serial number to do a serial number check for exact date of manufacture before i try to sell it, picked it up for free as SCRAP METAL back in 2019!!
Another good idea, talking about graveyards, perhaps before (for authenticity) or after (for emergency) you could dig a pretend grave on your land, so anyone who comes searching thinks twice about digging it up
If you are going to go to the trouble of burying clothes for emergency use to keep from freezing to death, might I suggest...
Go the extra mile and simply use a vacuum sealer and individually package the various items of clothes. They will stay dry and last longer for the long term storage. also using a vacuum sealer greatly reduces the size of clothing and sleaping bags, etc. After vacuum sealing them then put into the hard shell cache container. If the container filled with water for whatever reason, the clothes will remain dry. Garbage bags get wet inside surprisingly easy.
My 2 cents.
That's all the spare change I have at the moment.
Great suggestion
Love the idea. I would also recommend som vac sealed pet food. Even if you don't personally own the pet. ( people often acquire extra pets in a natural disaster like the neighbors or a relative pet after they pass. ( dogs cats and long lived birds are most common now in wills as whom gets custody) parrot live 50 years. People ran from Katrina with their pets.
Thank you for your valuable information and steps to follow. Plastic barrels to purchase from ? Other than Amazon?
Sounds like a good idea. I'd still double bag though.
"If you ever talk to somebody that has frozen to death, they're still dead." A very insightful conclusion.. 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Keep up the great work. 👍👍
If they respond, you’re probably dead also 🙀👻
Omg, this guy’s humor is awesome. I could listen to him for hours. I might even learn something too. Yes having a community with people who can depend on each other is your most important cache.
I've done it in the past .late 90s . my group buried a ammo can out in the desert in California. Did ten paces off a large Joshua tree. Went back 2 years later and found it. We had MREs ,Ammo,socks, and a bottle of Wild turkey ! Everything was good !
Really want your cache left alone, plant poison ivy over it.
Never thought of that. Some good info here
@@SurvivalDispatch Put some Benadryl in your cache.
Until the farmer or land owner decides to dig up the poison Ivy one day ..
I put one in a dog pen with 2 big GSD's. Almost forgot it(3 yrs later)when I moved. Fresh as the day I buried it. No one ever found it, much less tried to get in the pen to dig it up. Hmmm....... 🤔
@@SurvivalDispatch Even if you are, we all know there are ways around it!
Poison Ivy, Poison Sumac, etc. ANYTHING that makes it not important or something to avoid is a good thing!
I have been binge watching Season 1. Your positive attitude is infectious and your skills outstanding af. You deserved to win hands down!
Season one of what ?
@@TheUglyAmerican007 Alan Kay won Season 1 of Alone. Great show, check it out.
Only season one was good in my opinion and it cuz this guy
Haven’t seen his mentality and outlook since….
Love his humor and good info 😉
I know a man who sealed rifles in two Mylar bags with oxygen scavengers. Buried them under a concrete slab for 2 years. Dug them up and the cavity was filled with water. The bags were floating. After opening, there was not a speck of anything wrong with the rifles.
Smart
If you have a family graveyard you control a fake grave can be a huge cache.
Reminds of Terminator 3 lol
Where I come from this is where the gangsters used to hide their loot and shotguns in the sixties and seventies
Very good point. Family graveyards, barns, and sheds in plain sight if they don’t catch on fire.
The comment about having a cache 1/2 way home from work is a very good point. Because I drive about 30 km to a commuter train station I treat my car as a cache. I keep a case of water, some non-perishable food, extra cloths and a few other things in the car. This also covers any sort of emergency while driving too!
Should SHTF while I’m at work and I have to walk home the tracks the train travels on are the most direct route and my car is parked half way home. I get to my car I might even be able to drive it depending on what’s going on.
Also along the way near the start I have various relatives and friends who I can drop in on to take shelter and rest.
Might make sure you have good window tint because people are breaking into vehicles now. Make sure it's pretty hidden.
@@donnamccombs8882 no tint and it’s an SUV so I don’t have a box in the back labelled “Survival Cache” lol.
Stuff is just randomly stored like in the door cubby or glove box. Anything I want to hide goes under the floor where the spare tire is.
My next vehicle will be bought with more secure storage in mind.
Since you have a fairly stable waypoint in the train station there, I would say look around for places that you could hide a certain amount of really mission critical stuff. In the case of a severe crisis people coming off of the train there will be tempted by cars, and you would want at least a little bit left in case something happened to your vehicle while you were at work. I would definitively not put a full unit there, since it is public property and fairly easy to access. But it would give you that extra security step just in case something happens.
@@leechowning2712 I can’t imagine any place nearby to stash things however I do have a friend who lives close. I could ask them if I can leave stuff there.
I wouldn’t worry about my car being broken into by people getting off the train because they are all working commuters and would be rushing to try and get home too.
On the other hand if the trains aren’t running then I could see the risk of my car being broken into increasing as time goes by. In any disaster like a grid down it takes time for people to realize that the normal rules are slipping away.
I have used caches in real world urban situations. Although I do think of myself as a preper, they can also be useful in day to day life. A few years back when I was traveling around Europe I hid a cache in a bridge cavity on the edge of a major city. In it I stored a tent, sleeping bag, knife, cooker and cloths (things I didn't want to loose but if it happened don't hold sentimental value). Not carrying this stuff when I did smaller trips gave me a lot more freedom but also saved me time and money not having to pay for checked luggage on flights or storage fees.
My grandfather always went with. If you want to hide something do it in plain sight. He kept a small junk area that had different things hidden in there.
Probably so that someone could eventually find it if he passed away. But these days a metal detector could spot anything if it's there in the open.
Alan is so far the *only* person to mention a "sod plug". The roots of grasses tend to hold the dirt together so you can remove a section of grass, dig your hole, put the cache in, fill the hole, then put the "sod plug" of grasses back on top and it's like it *never happened*
Gotta love Alan Kay! Sad to see he didn't include a stepladder though xD
one thing about the plug, make sure it has at least 3 inches of dirt because if you chop the roots too much the plant will wither and brown and be very obvious.
Learned how to grass plug in basic Ft. Benning Ga. from a drill in 1986, smart tactic for lots of field operation. USA KAG.
Grew up in Columbus, used to watch you guys in jump school, some got off course and end up in trees, lakes, etc. Tough group
Us old trappers have been using sod plug and such for Centuries! It works for a lot of things!
The only thing I recommend is to fill the container to the max ! Displacing all the air in side and condensation, and add dehydrated food, good talk
I just have to say I really LOVE coming across informative reasonable videos by self responsible people I WISH were my neighbors and friends! Thank you!
In climates where the ground freezes you have to take that into consideration. Retrieving a cache buried under even just a few inches of frozen soil can be extremely difficult if not impossible. Our loam/clay soil, if fairly wet in the fall when the ground freezes almost has the hardness of concrete.
I was thinking of that too...
Use 2" pink foam to layer up over the top. Thin layer of soil and leaves, etc.
Axle grease the whole thing , should slide out easier . Okay now please keep any comments G rated .
Nothing a good ole weed torch and a tank of propane can't solve..................... (This is sarcasm for you keyboard warriors)
Native american Pemmican/wasna food caches have been found 100 years later and still edible! So your hard work now could be used by your kids or grandkids if you hand knowledge and locations down to them.
How about techniques for finding your caches? If there is cleared ground and you put a cache there, it don't take long for an area to be overgrown with plants, bushes, trees. Getting your bearings in unfamiliar grown up land is difficult. Moving through grown up areas is difficult.
Three takeaways I had for why you want a cashe and what goes in one and where it should be.
(1) Getting from A to B.
(2) Getting from A to A.
(3) Splitting your eggs.
Obviously, #1 is the most traditional - in which your cashe is your resupply source for a journey from a point A (usually where you live, work, or otherwise often are) to point B (your BoL - whether that is your home or some other place).
For those you should know where you are coming from, where you are going to, and have what you need to carry less.
So, if you have a BoL that you could drive to in an hour, but will take you 2-4 days to walk to, keeping it closer to 2 days with some resupply (or even supply) is helpful. I know if traveling with my littles, I would rather have a cheap tent waiting in a supply barrel at the end of the day than carry one big enough for the family.
#2 is for when you are pushed from your home and you want to retake it - so a big of food, water, weaponry, and ammo so that rather than being picked off in the Alamo, you can flee quickly knowing that you can then come back and pick them off in your Alamo.
#3 doesn't really even need to be in a cashe - a separated shed, storage unit, RV, etc - whatever it takes to split your stores.
Excellent information. I hear a lot about burying caches but never much in depth information like this
I just opened a 4yr old cash and checked everything out and it's still like new , even ate one of the protein bars that was in there and it was still very very good, it's a good thing to know how to make and hide them because when the time comes and you need ammo and some food yeah you will be glad to have a few of these around.
Great video as always. I live next to Mount Shasta. Fire season has replaced summer. I’m going to bury caches just in case my house burns down. Actually things in CA are so bad I’ll say when my house burns down. When my grown daughters were little we went GeoCaching all the time. Great family fun. Now it’s just for survival. My next purchase is a small towable trailer to keep ready during fire season so I won’t have to take time worrying about what to grab and can just concentrate on my animals.
If you prepare the bagged cache at home, you can use your shopvac to suck the air out. Also, PVC can be used as a cache. Cut some 4" or 6" to the length you want. Seal one end with a PVC cap. Use a threaded cap on the other end. Drill a hole in the top and install an eyebolt. This can help pulling it up. Paint the PVC with some exterior house paint for longer term added protection. Post hole diggers can be used to bury it. Put it down about three feet. Drive a 6" piece of rebar into the ground above it. People using a metal detector will give up when they find the rebar. (More info in a "reply")
If you store ammo in one of these PVC caches, put the ammo in glass jars with metal lids that seal well. Paint the metal lids with some Rust-Oleum paint. PVC off-gases. I don't know what the long term effects of this is on guns and ammo. Also, you can get Rust Block Vapor Tabs from Brownells and probably on Amazon. These are made specifically for guns and ammo. I would still seal any ammo stored in PVC in a jar. I use mason jars.
I see people using all kinds of elaborate containers, most difficult to find. I actually prefer the large diameter PVC as you describe. So easy to bury, no massive hole to dig. Metal detectors won't find them.
we want more Alan Kay VIDS!!
If you are burying small quantities of things you dont want a dog to be able to smell.
Do the usual drying, vacuum sealing, etc as many times as you want, and at the end, pack in the center of a container filled with activated charcoal so the package is surrounded on all sides.
This will absorb the odors the package exudes. The surface area of AC is equal to that of a football field size filter.
Skunk spray inside or around might help, lol
@@donnamccombs8882 No, dogs are able to differentiate between different smells. This is why drug smugglers cannot simply use cologne. Dogs nose work differently from humans. You can seal-package drugs and put it in gasoline tank, and within a few hours the smell will leak out from the plastic package, permeating through it on a moloculour level, and poice dogs can smell it. An ex-cop who made a documentary about this showed how it works.
Ya know Allen never thought about the fire aspect of cacheing . Great idea back in the teen yrs I had to live in the woods for awhile . Had a cache about every mile I had small dead drops and caches every mile . In case I needed supplies . If I left it in my shelter it would have stolen
I love the burial prayer provided to the cache. May it rest in peace... until needed....
Cache is pronounced "cash." Cachet is pronounced "cashay." Different words, different meanings.
Wow
Cacher: to hide
Cache: hide
Caché/Cachée: hidden
Cachette: a hiding place.
Thank you, this has been my Ted talk.
"Grammarsaurus", #2, haha!!!😄
Actually it's pronounced 'caysh', but as ana American you might not know that.
^ Aktshewelly....
I don't have a Bug out bag. I've got a get home bag. I travel 30 miles daily for work. And worst case scenario my vehicle doesn't work and I've got to walk. I've got a Get Home Bag in my vehicle so I can walk home. I'm also planning on burying a get home bag near my work in case my vehicle is stolen, or looted. I'll still have supplies to get home.
Also another good thing is flex seal the outside edges of the can before burying and lube on the inside as he said.
I tried a few caches in Texas and left them in the ground for18 months.
All three had a tremendous amount of condensation accumulation due to the hot air temperatures, and the cooler nights, etc....
(I'm talking an inch of water in them all)
All three containers were water-tight. One was a canning jar, one was a 18" section of PVC buried horizontally with one end cap glued on, and the other with a gasket-sealed screw-on lid, and one was a container that a military missile ships in. (I dug a 5 foot deep hole with a post-hole digger attached to a tractor, and lowered the tube in vertically. This one had the most moisture accumulation (about 2") - likely because the top only had about 3-4" of dirt covering it. I had put an old SKS in this tube, and fortunately, I put it in with the barrel up, so I only got a rusted butt-plate and a water stained buttstock)
None had more than 5" of dirt covering them. I am thinking this is what may have contributed to the moisture collection....If they were deeper, it would likely have been a more temperature-steady placement and prevented the condensation? - Not sure about that. In northern or more dry areas, this may not be a problem, but in Texas, Louisiana, Alabama, etc it will be something to try before you put all your goodies out there and see if you have issues with it.
Another lesson I learned from the testing - if you set tubes vertically....Cut a disc out of 1/2" ply and drill a hole in the center, then thread a length of paracord through it....lower that in to the tube, then drop your cache items on top of that, and keep 3-4 feet of cord exposed at the top of the tube as you put the lid on and seal it up....This way you can just uncover the top of the tube, open it up, then pull the cord up to bring all the contents up. (with a short tube, this may not matter, but if you have a 3-4 foot tube, it will save you from having to dig out the entire tube, plus, you can re-use if you need to)
Yep, I'm in Texas too and we found out the same thing about underground caches.
Need some type of moisture absorber?
@@ronicarbine8723 What about a baby diaper? I swear those things can absorb about a gallon of water
@@ForgingFreedomTV May work...I will try a few caches with different things in it....Maybe a mix of dry oatmeal and rice in one...Deeper holes should help too
@@crashingstoans5054 How much dirt did you have covering yours up? (Mine only had about 3" covering them)
I am thinking if you get about 3-4 feet down, it would help keep them from getting so hot, which I think is what caused the condensation,
Southern boys. Get up north, you want to make it water tight. PVC with both ends glued properly, paint it. Make your hole a bit big, so you can get gravel at the bottom and around the sides for drainage. And get as much of it as you can below the frost line. Yeah, not joking on that. And for the mid-commute cache, find a storage facility that is close to your walking route and 24hr access. Cache a pack, sleep gear, and a cot or good air pad. You literally are caching a hard and dry shelter. Hide your stuff behind the christmas crap and old patio furniture.
Also that looks like a Stewie. Maybe a Fry.
You're so entertaining to listen to. Learning from you is quite fun. Your children are so blessed to have you as a father and teacher.
They dug up graves in Venezuela for all the money and jewelry.
Thanks for all the ideas.
I've done that in America. religious leaders are buried with all kinds of gold medallions and stuff lol
Great video. You not only provide many good ideas, you inspire many more. BTW, cayenne powder mixed with black pepper deters all but the most determined animals. Just mix it and put it on the ground above your cache.
I use to be a community service worker at my church. One day one of the homeless people that used our service stopped in. He had to serve some time and did yard work to earn money. He informed me that he had buried his tools and supplies in our back property. There was a great deal of sand there. He believed they would be safe, that the Heavenly Father would watch them. They were still there! Just a thought.
Great idea!
I enjoy your videos, the information you offer & again the fun way you make it entertaining. ❤️
I know a fella who was going to prison, so he sold everything he owned and buried a heap of cash in a pine plantation. He got out of prison 5 years later and the pine plantation was cut down and he had no reference point to where he buried it, This was before GPS
You are the first one I have ever heard mention using a grave as a cache location. That has been my idea for years. Also underneath the big high tension power lines towers I believe would be good location. It won't be disturbed, out of the way and along easy travel corridor to get to.
Brilliant idea!! Who would think to hide supplies at a power pole??
Alan rocks, love seeing him on vids....thanks for the video
Couple other things to think about, containers with air in them float, so be careful to do shallow burials in flood prone areas, also if you want to reduce your overall foot print, think tall and skinny: 4" pvc with capped ends buried vertically only needs a 6" wide hole dug with post hole diggers. Just make sure you have the means to get back into it, if you show up without tools to retrieve your goods.
Have you considered a 6” pipe as a sleeve for your 4” and leaving a length of cord so you can pull it out after uncovering the top? We’ve tried the principle with a old metal 200L barrel as a sleeve for a plastic 150L barrel. Btw the contents were fairly light, mainly camping gear so it just needed a A frame to pull it out.
I would recommend matches instead of lighter for longer "shelf life", after checking ny BOB last year i only use matches, i had two in it before, and one had the ferro corrode to dust, and the other had welded the ferro to the "wheel".
Omg, its jan 1, 2024, i just watched season 1 ep 11 of Alan Kay winning! Ive watched him on yt for yrs.. what a fantastic human being! Would like to see more yt vids for sure!
I just want to thank god you boys are gentle!!!!!!!!! Lord have mercy!!!!
Lots of people have mentioned moisture problems, and cellular core PVC drain is an answer. Instead of a screw top lid, glue BOTH sides and include a cheap sawzall blade, drywall saw, whatever is cheapest and available packed in cosmo or lanolin and bagged up in the hole. The best watertight is plumbing tight. Proper glue joints will never leak. Also the little sawblade on a leatherman/gerber will do the job as the PVC is low density and cuts rather easy. Same with any bushcraft saw or even a sharp hatchet if you need in there bad enough. Heat also makes PVC brittle so a few heat-cool cycles and a rock would get you in caveman style.
Note this is not the best for food, as those fumes penetrate and linger. Better funky food than starving though.
Hell, parachute cord will cut through PVC. The heat will trash the pcord, but it can be done
Tip: Always bury your container UPSIDE DOWN. I know you think they are water tight but play it safe. If your lid lets water seep through you will be opening a barrel that is FULL of water and will have ruined anything inside.
Very good video, I bought cache barrels about 10 inch deep at Dunhams on half price clearance in the gun and ammo area. $ 30. marked at $ 15. . . . . I also had my daughter born in 99. if she lives to be just over 100, she will have lived in 3 centuries, 1900s, 2000s, and 2100s, and I have Aunts that lived to be 102 and 99
I hate to sound like a particularly modern nerd... But honestly if you're going to be a prepper invest in a 3D printer. Mid grade ones are already down to $200. It is very hard to stockpile everything you'll need and parts for everything you'll need, and that 3D printer can replace almost any part that does not specifically need to be metal. For the prepper mindset I would use the older style line printers rather than resin because the resin breaks down after time. Rolls of plastic filament are very easy to store and extremely cheap. So long as it is stored powered down an EM burst does not directly endanger it. Even better if you can store it inside of a metal container, because the container will block the great majority of the damage. I also already have downloaded significant portions of the files, especially ones that the government is likely to take down in case of a uprising, and have them stored in a pendrive. The printer itself never connects to the internet and the pen drive permits me to keep those files no matter what happens.
I am sitting here balling my eyes out when they said you had won and you reunited with your wife. What an incredible journey for you. 😭
Alan Kay is a national treasure.
Yes, we're only limited by our own imagination. That's whati always learned. Thanks for the helpful video.
As funny as it is informative. Thanks for this great video. The false debris field is such a good idea I never thought of before.
My preping is based on shelter in place. I have many reasons for this but some basic ones are my house is more secure than a tent or shelter, my house holds more preps than I could ever carry and I know my house and property well giving me a strong defensive advantage.
However, I am aware if bad times come I may have to tactical retreat and this is where a cache may be required.
If I have to leave with nothing it gives me the ablity to resupply before returning or moving on.
The good the bad &the ugly🤪with the grave hide👍Thank you for your great and simple info and tips!🙏🍀🙋🏻♂️
Excellent advice re the graves. Back in the '60 when Brit and Oz forcers were dealing with the Malay Confrontation the so called independence fighters were trained by the Chi Com (Chinese Communists) and they used fake graves extensively to hide huge caches of food and munitions, Chinese family graves are about as big as a double bed and usually bug into a hillside, which made them excellent places to ambush. When the smoke cleared we'd collected any intel, empty the cache of supplies and back fill it with the booby trapped bodies as a warning to the next group who wanted to use it. Apparently it really played with their minds.
Outstanding! The best one ever. Thank you.
I like all videos before I even watch because I know they'll be great entertaining and ultimately knowledgeable and entertaining to say the least
Alan Kay is one of the ALONE CHAMPIONS !!
100 Days Season 7 = Roland Welker (2020) new Alone record
87 Days Season 3 = Zachary Fowler (2016-2017) he held the record till Season 7
77 Days Season 6 = Jordan Jones (2019)
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Cache being a french word should be pronounced CASH. The word cachet (or Cashay) also exists but is a whole other words meaning "a mark, or seal of distinction, elegance and class"
As a french this is true. Just pronounce it "cash"
'Horatio Hollingsworth of the shire' had me laughing my tits off!
Excellent job guys!
Using caches to come back from burnout suggests more need for thought and planning. Fires and mudslides and severe flooding can overrun local caches, making the contents unusable or unreachable.
@@PatrickKQ4HBD My idea was more like: 'where would I be when the fire was out?' With mudslides and flooding, nothing looks the same and caches can be wildly displaced.
We took large plastic barrels, cam- painted them and hid them north, south, east and west of our primary location deep, deep in the woods. In case we ever needed to fall back. It gives us a chance to regroup and pick the buggers off one by one...smile.
In each barrel there is a tent, H20, food, clothing, fire starting tools, flashlights, knives, ammo with a shot gun and rifle in each. We had to replace the original plastic barrels with steel barrels because bear mauled a few pretty badly and compromised them. I think the steel should be bear proof...
Anyway, the point is that a cashes is prepping. I am thinking of setting some up on my bug out route; it will greatly improve my survival odds.
Cacher: (casheyuh) To hide. (Infinitive)
Cache: (cash) Hide. (Imperative)
Caché/Cachée: (cashay) Hidden. (M/F)
Cachette: (cashette) A hiding place.
Cachet: (cashai) A stamp or seal.
Thank you, this has been my Ted talk.
Use caution with using petroleum jelly on the rubber seals of your ammo cans. Some things may compromise the rubber seals. It is usually fine and advisable to seal ammo cans without any oil or grease.
Great vid. Very informative and well presented. Thanks.......Charles
I used my pick mattock this morning before going into the office but its more satisfying to watch you use yours...
Well done gentlemen. Thank you for the video.
He’s your cashe’ cow. ! Would so love to be hangin out so often w/ Alan
An excellent video, I've been thinking about have supplies stashed in strategic locations. My thing was having one every so many miles towards my bug out location. So I can set up base for period of time in each location
You can also plant blackberries or prickly pear cactus or anything thorny and preferably fruit bearing. Nobody will want to walk through it and in the meantime you can pick the berries/prickly pears, giving you the excuse to check on your cache....
A vacuum cleaner can suck out most of the air in soft items like bedding and clothing for smaller storage space needed.
Great information. Alan is a hoot...
One thing to think about,... a cache somewhere else is also a good idea in case a fire or storm leveled your house.
Good subject
Such a beautiful forest
If you have a good cash site put more than one container in the area. One container might have all of the metal objects in it, another container might be filled with non-metallic things such as clothing and food. Depending on the circumstance you might want to add a container to cash water in and a container to cash gasoline in. The caches should be far enough apart that finding one cash would not immediately lead to the others. I also would also suggest that rather than loose items you put them in one or more bags that you can retrieve quickly if you have to leave the site quickly.
YES it helps. Thank you brother. Remember believe on and keep FAITH in JESUS Christ. Don't take the mark. Give em your head first
Halleluyah
Good stuff! Thanks!
Been seeing this video for a week in recommended and avoiding it, I finally just broke down and watched. Pleasantly surprised lol, I enjoyed that.
When he dug that hole he should have used a garbage bag tarp or poncho to put the dirt on and saved the top intact if possible in a small separate pile. Then when back filling you have less disturbed discolored soil. And if there’s too much to be level you can move it away to be hidden and dispersed. And then replace sod plants and same colored top soil as surrounding top soil.
About the pronounciation : Cache (pron. "Cash") is a French word (cacher = to hide. Pron. "caché").
We use this same word for caches. "Une cache".
The kids' game "hide and seek" is called "cache-cache" ;)
Cheers from Belgium and thanks for the video. Nice woods :)
Looks like those of us who live in colder climates have some ideas to experiment with this winter.
Thanks to all as someday this skill may become paramount to survival!
If you live above the snow line, put it below the frostline if you're using PVC. Ask your plumber how deep it should be.
Those little guys are great in removing ticks from my land. They never mess with anything else and they stay away from dogs too
Awesome man that's wisdom that one should be doing, just cause you never know, I live in eastern middle Tennessee and it's good to know there's still some good ole boys that have common knowledge of the outdoors and how to apply it very beneficial, thanks.
Great to see you in a video. After winning Alone you disappeared. Haven't seen anything on how you are doing / what you are doing.. Congrats on the win and hope you put out a lot more vids
Looks like you have several wild ginseng growing on the side of your hill when you was messing with that blue plastic jug. When you typically see fern plants, wild ginseng isn’t that far away.
Thanks for that thought! Nice to know.
Wherever I'm at, first thing I do is look at the plants to see what is around. People see weeds, I see medicine and food. 😉
Fantastic information as always!
That whole thing about cachet and prince and skipping had me laughing so hard I almost wet myself! You guys are just way too funny and can be serious at the same time
1 thing I learned from this video. Apparently, lighters suffer from depression.
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Don't forget magnesium bars.
Good stuff gentlemen
Hey, great info, very timely ..
Thank you ,👍
Thank you 😊. Sharing your stuff a lot, great info 👍👍
Excellent job
Good information in this video, thanks for sharing!
Awesome ideas. Thank you
Call it a emergency
time capsule
thank you
i have used every square inch of my properties to do scrapping, lots of metal still above the ground even today, i actually took photos today of a 1930's eagle bicycle with all origional parts including the metal emblem on the head, was hoping to take a photo of the serial number to do a serial number check for exact date of manufacture before i try to sell it, picked it up for free as SCRAP METAL back in 2019!!
U just made me think of a buried bike to get away in.
Possums are great for getting rid of ticks
Another good idea, talking about graveyards, perhaps before (for authenticity) or after (for emergency) you could dig a pretend grave on your land, so anyone who comes searching thinks twice about digging it up
Toss a pair of wool socks in the first cache too. Seriously big morale booster to switch out socks, treat any blisters, and keep going.
Two pairs. One gets wet...no good.,. Have dry pair.