I've been stalked by a panther, have had bears get into a fight at the edge of my camp, and have had to contend with alligators to get water. I've had a pack of coyotes run through my camp, have almost been tagged by cotton mouths on more than one occasion, and have had to put my sights on some shady guy creeping into my camp around 3am. It's the ticks that make me nervous.
Also, I’d love to see an updated get home bag talk with Jason and Alan. I’d love to see how in their years of experience to see what’s changed to all of us “common folk” some good primers.
That would be 2 different worlds. Jason is a minimalist and likes to sleep completely naked on fresh igneous rock still in liquid form. Alan likes having "stuff" to be somewhat comfortable because he, like me, is getting older and Aurthur is a friend we cannot get rid of. 🤣🤣🤣
Two questions: 1: Where did you get the sil nylon tarp? Been looking for one forever… B: have you seen or tried the pop-up single man tent the Marine Corps fielded a few years ago? I only slept in one a few times, but those were a few nights deep in Camp LeJune’s Greater Sandy Run Area (The GSRA), and no the fancy mowed end, we were in the deep swamp areas. It kept the bugs out great, and we only lost one Marine, PFC Johnson, and that was most likely a bear, not the bugs… we did kinda look like giant burritos in those things.
Emotionally scarred by ticks; yeah I dig it. I don't want the &^($# things near me. And I've been meaning to ask you guys if you have a way to keep nasty dangerous things away from you while using just a tarp. Apparently you don't. Where I live rattlesnakes , a few spiders, and other beast are present and could potentially pose a risk. So I tend to favor a tent (2 person). I can have some piece of mind and keep my pack out of reach as well. To me it's worth the extra wt. and bulk.
I've used the one tigris tipi nova for almost 2 years now its right at 2 pounds for 1 hiking pole, tent, and stakes with painters drop cloth as ground sheet.
I have many of tents. As I get older I want something smaller and lighter to pack. I use and I like the USMC Catoma one man bug net tent. But have found problems by using the issued rain fly. Several years ago I gave up the rainfly and went with a tarp which works just perfect. It gives you a lot of overlap for water runoff, airflow and more room to put your gear under or to sit outside the tent underneath. Good video and review.
I like the Snugpak Ionosphere. I use it with the Aquaquest Defender 10x10 instead of the fly and a custom-made ground sheet. Living in the desert as I do, I need more sun protection than rain. But my combination works well in all the conditions I adventure in.
Very smart and well thought out set up. Thinking outside the box. And I really like the little trick with making that gutter trough with the tarp. I will definitely have to try it. Thanks guy's!
Lol hes a trip . Lol I had a single man tent one night .here how it goes .4 am grumpgh how the where the oh ya step .damn bear !!! All hell breaks loose cant find zippers no room .im sleeping in my coffin .lol bear one Tom 0 bear runs off going w.t.f was that lol oh tent died a slow death in ground
I always had a problem sleeping in hammocks because I'm a slide sleeper. But I got the onewind hammock and I can sleep on my side and roll over and everything
I feel your pain Gentleman. I can't stand TICS. Just think, if tics we're the size of box turtles. We would hav2 use buck shot on them. Just food 4 thought. Great vid on tents. Take care and ⌚ your 6.....
I bit the bullet and got some hammocks because people said there were no problems with back issues …About to get my zipper extended and now I think I wasted money . In for a dollar in for a dime . Guess I’ll find out after during bow season. Thanks for the info
GOOD STUFF! I need a double hoop bivvy because it keeps the fabric off of me in wind and rain. Pairing this with a ground cloth and THAT TARP to help with shedding precipitation...AND giving just the right space for a small burner to reheat coffee and to rehydrate meals. Your preferred equipment can be set on a raised bed as well. None of US are going to be 'running and gunning' anymore. Younger soldiers are protecting our shores and our People. My Formerly Heavy-Duty friends agree that they cannot go more than 3 minutes at combat intensity anymore. I NEVER could do that. All I COULD DO is give my life for my country and slow something down. These days, alas, it is more LIKELY to be "Patriots' that do not appreciate MY life's service in maintaining free and fair elections and in providing information on issues that could lead to 'equal protection under the laws.'
I would love to see a video on garden/homestead adventures. Guarding from deer, herding goats, the realities of trying to live off of what you can grow. Entertaining and informative as always. 👍
Yep agree on bug nets. Turkey ticks or what we call them are terrible around here. Done had rocky mountain spotted fever from ticks. But I prefer my hammock. That's a great ground set up.
yes sir, down here in the South, I like using a hammock until the first frost when most bugs and such are dead/hibernating for the winter. then I switch to a ground system. Rocky Mtn Spotted Fever scares the living crap out of me; lime disease only slightly less so. I appreciate how you differentiated between the world of combat and our present state of living. in too many instances, folks get them confused (and not to sound too soft), they sacrifice comfort as a result; potentially reducing their enjoyment of the outdoors and their effectiveness in an emergency. that is a generality, so it doesn't apply to the genuine rambos out there; lol
An AT thru hiker said his best set up was an OR bug bive and a 10x10 tarp. Similar to your gear!!! One of the most useful parts was the tarp on a very windy wet night, he blocked the shelter from the elements with the tarp. Stary nites using bug bivi, tarp and bivi- full shelter.Thanks for the great vid!🏕🏕🏕 ps... cut those ground sheets at least 1" shorter than the perimeter of the tent,on all sides. Do as not to capture rain, and funnel under tent/bivi... just my $.02
I never would of wanted a bivi . Until this vodio . Love it. I may get one for my buggout bag instead of my tent .+ tarp. I have two packs set up. One threw hike 55L . And a military Alice pack. Both are ready to roll . Depends on what i want to grab,and why.
Snugpak ionosphere is amazing. I've had mine since 2014 and haven't had an issue. I'm not quite as tall as Alan at 6'3" but I had trouble finding a bivy style tent that I'd fit in and I can put my pack in the Snugpak with me.
If you live where the bugs are bad a tent or bug net with a tub floor is the way to go. I'd much rather wear protective clothing then use chemicals. Don't forget your bug hood.
This is a very heavy solution. I'm sure it will last a long time and provide great flexibility for ventilation. However, a less expensive and far lighter solution would be a Six Moon Designs Lunar Solo tent. (26 ounces, plus your stakes & 1 hiking pole) for $250 or less when they have their annual sales. People thru-hike the Appalachian Trail with them and swear by them. So many choices!
I've been using a ETROL Hammock/double hoop bivy tent with a built in bug net that I like pretty well since I also have a love hate relationship with both tents and hammocks in given circumstances, so it seems to give me the best of both worlds as far as options. And I usually carry a foam pad regardless of planed configuration.
What brand are your pants boots and shin covers? I seem to have trouble finding good bush clothing that fits well and is comfortable. My boots of choice at the moment are keen flint or whatever but they are steel toe and hurt the goes after about 14 hours. The pants always rip the belt loops Rio and they always fit wrong.
The best is a teepee. You can cover it with anything and it won't leak,at the most water might run down inside but never drips. The Indians were very smart.
I'm like Alan (I wish) in the fact that I have to have a little comfort. I cannot do the bugs and venomous biters. Squatches are also something I would like to be able to see if they're standing over me. If I'm going to be a snack for a Squatch.... I'm going to be a snappy and crunchy snack. 💥💣💥🪓 🗡
Agreed. I want to be able to see what's stalking me or my camp. The only time I was glad to be in a heavy wall tent was as a little boy in ENP (1964), an army of racoons was all over the tent. I remember my Grandad knocking them off the roof with the back of his hand. They're creepy. They still come out every night down there in Flamingo and you can hear them talking to each other as they plan their attack on anything that resembles food. It sounds (and looks like) advancing infantry. They've gotten into rubbermaid boxes strapped closed with bungies and I watched one wait for a guy to come out of his motor home with a plate of meat for the grill and dash into the motor home after the guy passed and before the screen door closer could close the door. Fast as lightning, it comes out of the motor home with a bag of something. The guys at their site and our site just stood with mouths agape. Got tons of stories but running too long. Rob in GA
@@robertbates6057 - Yeah, and I've seen rabid coons. If they come into my tent or house they're getting blasted quick. I'm not going to wait until one bites me. I've seen people get very friendly with them. Not me. They're going to learn to stay away from some humans. "Do you feel lucky punk?" 💥💣💥
Snugpak makes great gear, I have a snugpak sleekaforce 35 pack that has been used heavily for 12 years, and not lightly. Still one of my favorite and most comfortable packs of any size I've used or owned.
I started bringing a 10×12 armor tarp, even with a cheap tent this gives you tent protection and a covered porch, worked so well during monsoon storms that I generally hang up as many tarps as possible if I expect rain, changes the game boys, rain camping is fun again 😀
It's comforting to see the man of the woods through a bug net and ankle high viewing position . Size 20 feet barely making a sound watching you all night and day and with one answered prayer your fears a squashed .
I got the Hilleberg Bivanorak last winter, and i really like it. When used as a bivy, it is no more "claustrophobic" than wearing very loose fitting raingear, and allows me to sit up and cook food, or even walk around and take a pee without going out of my shelter. As i sleep with the head in the hood, i have all the fresh air in the world - and i dont breathe damp air into the bivy... This takes so little space that my 15 liter backpack can fit everything i need for 24 hours (without cooksystem). It can also be set it up on a narrow trail, which i really like. I only used it twice, so i need more testing to see how the condensation is, but my first impression is that this is mostly just an issue when it gets so warm i start sweating.
I had been contemplating using a tarp over tent for some time. Just too many rain flies that don't!!! So many options the tarp provides but first and foremost a dry sleep. Great sun shade in hot weather days around the camp fire, too. You sold me!
@@3nertia Not if you have one with a built on zip up Bug net... I have the DD Frontline XL and love it, could also be used on the ground as a bivi bag if you had too I´m sure, though I haven´t tried it.
I've been stalked by a panther, have had bears get into a fight at the edge of my camp, and have had to contend with alligators to get water. I've had a pack of coyotes run through my camp, have almost been tagged by cotton mouths on more than one occasion, and have had to put my sights on some shady guy creeping into my camp around 3am.
It's the ticks that make me nervous.
I mean you´ll just be walking around camp, relaxing, whatever, and out of nowhere boom you now have lime disease.
But what about the Chinese paratroopers?
If you throw down some mahjong tiles and run, you're usually ok.
Nervous ticks are the worst
Also, I’d love to see an updated get home bag talk with Jason and Alan. I’d love to see how in their years of experience to see what’s changed to all of us “common folk” some good primers.
That would be 2 different worlds. Jason is a minimalist and likes to sleep completely naked on fresh igneous rock still in liquid form. Alan likes having "stuff" to be somewhat comfortable because he, like me, is getting older and Aurthur is a friend we cannot get rid of. 🤣🤣🤣
Two questions:
1: Where did you get the sil nylon tarp? Been looking for one forever…
B: have you seen or tried the pop-up single man tent the Marine Corps fielded a few years ago? I only slept in one a few times, but those were a few nights deep in Camp LeJune’s Greater Sandy Run Area (The GSRA), and no the fancy mowed end, we were in the deep swamp areas. It kept the bugs out great, and we only lost one Marine, PFC Johnson, and that was most likely a bear, not the bugs… we did kinda look like giant burritos in those things.
You got to love Alan, he opened his tent and a speed loader is rolling around.....
Got two in my right front pocket as I watched the video.
Emotionally scarred by ticks; yeah I dig it. I don't want the &^($# things near me. And I've been meaning to ask you guys if you have a way to keep nasty dangerous things away from you while using just a tarp. Apparently you don't. Where I live rattlesnakes , a few spiders, and other beast are present and could potentially pose a risk. So I tend to favor a tent (2 person). I can have some piece of mind and keep my pack out of reach as well. To me it's worth the extra wt. and bulk.
BTW, I love the tarp instead of the rainfly idea for the summer. That makes a ton of sense. Thanks for the great video.
I've used the one tigris tipi nova for almost 2 years now its right at 2 pounds for 1 hiking pole, tent, and stakes with painters drop cloth as ground sheet.
I have many of tents. As I get older I want something smaller and lighter to pack. I use and I like the USMC Catoma one man bug net tent. But have found problems by using the issued rain fly. Several years ago I gave up the rainfly and went with a tarp which works just perfect. It gives you a lot of overlap for water runoff, airflow and more room to put your gear under or to sit outside the tent underneath. Good video and review.
I like the Snugpak Ionosphere. I use it with the Aquaquest Defender 10x10 instead of the fly and a custom-made ground sheet. Living in the desert as I do, I need more sun protection than rain. But my combination works well in all the conditions I adventure in.
I’m a massive fan of Snugpack. I’ve got two jungle bags and the winter SF bag. Used them from the jungle to the Arctic.
Does the stratosphere have a bug net do you know?
@@Lettusfarm The head area only of the Stratosphere bivvy has a built-in bug net.
Alan , look into the amok dramur XL , built for big dudes , integrated bug net and you sleep flat .
I love this guy. He makes serious subjects fun to learn.
The groundsheet is german. We call it 'Elefantenhaut' [Elephantskin]. A little bit expensive in the last time but works very well.
Just curious, is Alan wearing snake boots?
I got bit by a tick and it made me allergic to beef and pork for 4 years....talk about having tick PTSD.
Me: "will it be long enough, i'm a tall dude"
Him: *Glares in 6'6*
Me: "point taken"
I feel like all these videos with Alan are viral marketing for a movie about this infamous tick incident that we've yet to hear about.
Very smart and well thought out set up. Thinking outside the box. And I really like the little trick with making that gutter trough with the tarp. I will definitely have to try it. Thanks guy's!
Lol hes a trip . Lol I had a single man tent one night .here how it goes .4 am grumpgh how the where the oh ya step .damn bear !!! All hell breaks loose cant find zippers no room .im sleeping in my coffin .lol bear one Tom 0 bear runs off going w.t.f was that lol oh tent died a slow death in ground
What kind of boots are those?
I always had a problem sleeping in hammocks because I'm a slide sleeper. But I got the onewind hammock and I can sleep on my side and roll over and everything
I feel your pain Gentleman. I can't stand TICS. Just think, if tics we're the size of box turtles. We would hav2 use buck shot on them. Just food 4 thought. Great vid on tents. Take care and ⌚ your 6.....
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Always a pleasure dipping into the knowledge that is Alan Kay. 🤣
Would be interesting to hear your tick experience so we can learn from it.
I like this set up. I too would like to know where to get one of those tarps….or three or four
Greetings from Ruhrpott (Kraut) Germany, nice channel!!
What gaiters/leggings is Mr Kay wearing ??
The Xpedition pant Alan designed for Tru spec.
I've always hated those 1 man tents. They're trash.
I bit the bullet and got some hammocks because people said there were no problems with back issues …About to get my zipper extended and now I think I wasted money . In for a dollar in for a dime . Guess I’ll find out after during bow season. Thanks for the info
GOOD STUFF! I need a double hoop bivvy because it keeps the fabric off of me in wind and rain. Pairing this with a ground cloth and THAT TARP to help with shedding precipitation...AND giving just the right space for a small burner to reheat coffee and to rehydrate meals. Your preferred equipment can be set on a raised bed as well. None of US are going to be 'running and gunning' anymore. Younger soldiers are protecting our shores and our People. My Formerly Heavy-Duty friends agree that they cannot go more than 3 minutes at combat intensity anymore. I NEVER could do that. All I COULD DO is give my life for my country and slow something down. These days, alas, it is more LIKELY to be "Patriots' that do not appreciate MY life's service in maintaining free and fair elections and in providing information on issues that could lead to 'equal protection under the laws.'
A good stout speedbump is better than flat pavement!
I would love to see a video on garden/homestead adventures. Guarding from deer, herding goats, the realities of trying to live off of what you can grow. Entertaining and informative as always. 👍
.....bugs, snakes, humans hate the cold ! I don't hike in the summer..........
I love the snugpak ionosphere, and i think the tarp is a good way to go with it too
Great video, so you have links to each of the 3 items in Alen's set up ? Total cost ?
I trust a lot of what Alan says and does. He thinks of every possible scenario.
Yeah I like the bug bivy/tarp combo. Check out borah gear bug bivy it’s sweet with a ridge line setup. Great job on the vid!
excellent info.............thank you! Love your videos!!!!
Nice setup, with Alan & Jason regarding outdoor stuff, been there done that should be their motto
I have that tent. How big is the tarp?
Yep agree on bug nets. Turkey ticks or what we call them are terrible around here. Done had rocky mountain spotted fever from ticks. But I prefer my hammock. That's a great ground set up.
Great video Alan thanks for sharing. Stay safe out there.
🇨🇱🇺🇸✝️✝️🙏👍
yes sir, down here in the South, I like using a hammock until the first frost when most bugs and such are dead/hibernating for the winter. then I switch to a ground system. Rocky Mtn Spotted Fever scares the living crap out of me; lime disease only slightly less so. I appreciate how you differentiated between the world of combat and our present state of living. in too many instances, folks get them confused (and not to sound too soft), they sacrifice comfort as a result; potentially reducing their enjoyment of the outdoors and their effectiveness in an emergency. that is a generality, so it doesn't apply to the genuine rambos out there; lol
Much love ak
An AT thru hiker said his best set up was an OR bug bive and a 10x10 tarp. Similar to your gear!!! One of the most useful parts was the tarp on a very windy wet night, he blocked the shelter from the elements with the tarp. Stary nites using bug bivi, tarp and bivi- full shelter.Thanks for the great vid!🏕🏕🏕 ps... cut those ground sheets at least 1" shorter than the perimeter of the tent,on all sides. Do as not to capture rain, and funnel under tent/bivi... just my $.02
I never would of wanted a bivi .
Until this vodio . Love it.
I may get one for my buggout bag instead of my tent .+ tarp.
I have two packs set up.
One threw hike 55L .
And a military Alice pack.
Both are ready to roll .
Depends on what i want to grab,and why.
Snugpak ionosphere is amazing. I've had mine since 2014 and haven't had an issue. I'm not quite as tall as Alan at 6'3" but I had trouble finding a bivy style tent that I'd fit in and I can put my pack in the Snugpak with me.
IMHO it needs to many pegs to stand .... (got it too)
👍👍
If you live where the bugs are bad a tent or bug net with a tub floor is the way to go. I'd much rather wear protective clothing then use chemicals. Don't forget your bug hood.
This is a very heavy solution. I'm sure it will last a long time and provide great flexibility for ventilation. However, a less expensive and far lighter solution would be a Six Moon Designs Lunar Solo tent. (26 ounces, plus your stakes & 1 hiking pole) for $250 or less when they have their annual sales. People thru-hike the Appalachian Trail with them and swear by them. So many choices!
Can't help feel this ol tent wasn't put up proper in the first place...
I've been using a ETROL Hammock/double hoop bivy tent with a built in bug net that I like pretty well since I also have a love hate relationship with both tents and hammocks in given circumstances, so it seems to give me the best of both worlds as far as options. And I usually carry a foam pad regardless of planed configuration.
What brand are your pants boots and shin covers? I seem to have trouble finding good bush clothing that fits well and is comfortable. My boots of choice at the moment are keen flint or whatever but they are steel toe and hurt the goes after about 14 hours. The pants always rip the belt loops Rio and they always fit wrong.
I'd think Alan's blood would kill them bugs! Or he might just bitem!
Should try a Warbonnet hammock... They allow for side sleeping can even roll over on to your belly
Thank God there is Alan!
Chinese paratroopers in southern Appalachia, lolololol, good luck Chang!
The best is a teepee. You can cover it with anything and it won't leak,at the most water might run down inside but never drips. The Indians were very smart.
So where can I find Alans boots and how are they called? Would anyone be so kind and tell me? They look awesome!
Great info ! Thanks for sharing !
I'm like Alan (I wish) in the fact that I have to have a little comfort. I cannot do the bugs and venomous biters. Squatches are also something I would like to be able to see if they're standing over me. If I'm going to be a snack for a Squatch.... I'm going to be a snappy and crunchy snack. 💥💣💥🪓 🗡
Agreed. I want to be able to see what's stalking me or my camp. The only time I was glad to be in a heavy wall tent was as a little boy in ENP (1964), an army of racoons was all over the tent. I remember my Grandad knocking them off the roof with the back of his hand. They're creepy. They still come out every night down there in Flamingo and you can hear them talking to each other as they plan their attack on anything that resembles food. It sounds (and looks like) advancing infantry. They've gotten into rubbermaid boxes strapped closed with bungies and I watched one wait for a guy to come out of his motor home with a plate of meat for the grill and dash into the motor home after the guy passed and before the screen door closer could close the door. Fast as lightning, it comes out of the motor home with a bag of something. The guys at their site and our site just stood with mouths agape. Got tons of stories but running too long. Rob in GA
@@robertbates6057 - Yeah, and I've seen rabid coons. If they come into my tent or house they're getting blasted quick. I'm not going to wait until one bites me. I've seen people get very friendly with them. Not me. They're going to learn to stay away from some humans.
"Do you feel lucky punk?" 💥💣💥
great video, I have the Aqua Quest 10X10 it's a little heavy but it has served me well.
The Tiks are calling from Florida… They want some
Great review👍 looking to get one.
That's no one-man hooped bivvi, that's a tea-bag‼️ 😳😬
Love the way Alan thinks...
Chinese paratroopers, sounds like an easy target..
You should check out the catoma ibns. Easy to setup and throw a tarp over
Good stuff
Can you tell us about your choice of footwear in this video?
Has Allen used a bridge hammock?
I'm really enjoying your videos.
I'd love to see Alan k review the new condor King kukri
Nice liked video 😎😎😎🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍👍👍
I USE A LITEFIGHTER ,IT WORKS WELL!! THANKS DAVE!!
My small tent (2person) actually just big enough for me and my rucksack weights 800 grams
How big is that tarp? I'm trying to match taps to sleep systems without buying everything first :)
Looks good. Take care.
Had a tick in my belly button last year. Not a good time
Yeah, ticks can get in some tight spots, hard to reach 😬
love you show/teaching
Thanks for the info nothing more miserable Then waking up wet and cold good job
I've asked this in several videos of yours, but seriously where do you get those pants?? And, what boots do you have that are so tall?
Alan designed the xpedition pant for Tru spec.
Thank you for the video.
Good advice. I enjoyed the video .
What shirt is Alan wearing?
I half expected Alan to grab that hopper for a snack ! 😋
Naaa, he prefers slugs!
Slugs on a bed of poison ivy leaves covered in slug gravy. Yum yum!
Tom Cotton for president
Catoma USMC bednet is the way to go for me. Fast deploy, fast to pack up. Use light tarp, like you do is just about perfect. Enjoyed the video.
Where is Alan Kaye these days?
You need a real Aussie swag
I gave away my Snugpack Stratosphere.... it was claustrophobic for me.
I never used a tent until I got married and had kids....
Snugpak makes great gear, I have a snugpak sleekaforce 35 pack that has been used heavily for 12 years, and not lightly. Still one of my favorite and most comfortable packs of any size I've used or owned.
It's a hooch not tent
Die gute deutsche Elefantenhaut 😉👍
I started bringing a 10×12 armor tarp, even with a cheap tent this gives you tent protection and a covered porch, worked so well during monsoon storms that I generally hang up as many tarps as possible if I expect rain, changes the game boys, rain camping is fun again 😀
It's comforting to see the man of the woods through a bug net and ankle high viewing position . Size 20 feet barely making a sound watching you all night and day and with one answered prayer your fears a squashed .
I got the Hilleberg Bivanorak last winter, and i really like it. When used as a bivy, it is no more "claustrophobic" than wearing very loose fitting raingear, and allows me to sit up and cook food, or even walk around and take a pee without going out of my shelter. As i sleep with the head in the hood, i have all the fresh air in the world - and i dont breathe damp air into the bivy... This takes so little space that my 15 liter backpack can fit everything i need for 24 hours (without cooksystem). It can also be set it up on a narrow trail, which i really like. I only used it twice, so i need more testing to see how the condensation is, but my first impression is that this is mostly just an issue when it gets so warm i start sweating.
Nice set up.
I had been contemplating using a tarp over tent for some time. Just too many rain flies that don't!!! So many options the tarp provides but first and foremost a dry sleep. Great sun shade in hot weather days around the camp fire, too. You sold me!
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I still love my hammock. Haven't had any ticks or snakes since I got off the ground.
No problems with 'em coming off the trees?
@@3nertia Not if you have one with a built on zip up Bug net... I have the DD Frontline XL and love it, could also be used on the ground as a bivi bag if you had too I´m sure, though I haven´t tried it.