"My Gladiator tows just fine...on the salt flats in Utah". A true quote. I live in the mountains, and have given up on trying to wrangle smaller engines into towing (unless you don't mind climbing mountain passes at 25 mph while wrapping out your engine). Nowadays I tow with a V8: Towing like "its not even there."
Ok i have a 2023 rubicon gladiator. On paper it has everything that a sport or sport s has except maybe stiffer springs. Rubicons have dana 44's i believe- check. 4:10 gears- check, heavy duty cooling- check, 240 amp altinator- check and class 4 trailer hitch tow package. Other than springs i dont see a much of a difference. Unless rubicons weigh more which i would think would be a bit better in towing stsbility if you put a adequate wieght distribution hitch on it. Im on pins and needles since im going to get a 6333 dry weight camper and I know im pushing it. Think ill end up trading for a big horn or something. Just wish thebrubicon was beefer in towing.
Great information. A lot of truck manufacturers push the main numbers too though. They always say in the fine print to check the ratings for your vehicle. I don’t know why anyone would want to push a vehicles to its max limit anyway. If you had a small family, little bit of gear, and a trailer below 5,000 lbs, you should be fine.
A tow test was done with gladiator rubicon and a trailer load of 7,000lbs with two big guys in the cab going up the Ike gauntlet in Colorado by Fast Lane Truck. You should check it out. It CAN tow pretty well, not perfect, but pretty good. Main point is it can do it. OFFRD is correct in all his different numbers he is talking about, however, the rating capacity is already calculated with all those for TOWing. No if you put a bunch of crap in the bed of the truck then yes that is more weight and will be less efficient in towing the max rated amount. But in the test i mentioned the two guys riding in the truck combined was prolly about 535 lbs added weight besides the trailer.
I saw that when it came out. Extreme example, and of course they haven't tested another truck in the midsize segment with that much weight so kind of not fair. But it did show us that the Pentastar can get the job done.
Very easy to follow but to make sure I understand. (hypothetical situation here) Say stock truck has a payload capacity of 1600#. 1) Figure out the weight of the old wheels 2) Add that weight to the Payload capacity 3) Figure out the weight of the new wheels 4) Subtract that weight from payload capacity 5) This would give me my new payload capacity numbers which would probably be lower than 1600#... Right?
Man I was so excited to go buy one of these but after watching this the gladiator probably won't work for me I have 7x16 with 2 ultra classics inside probably best option is to buy a diesel thanks for the video
Go look up Fast Lane Truck video of gladiator rubicon towing 7,000 lbs up Ike Gauntlet in colorado. UP THE MOUNTAIN. You towing two motorcycles WILL NOT be a problem!!
Thanks for the tip. Would you be so kind and make another video of the Sport S model you built with the options you chose? I'm torn between the Rubicon and Sports S Model with Max Tow. Price difference was $4000.
Same. I am looking to get into a gladiator probably this fall/winter. Love the JLs but would love a truckbed even more. Please do a review of your gladiator, along with any future mods you would do etc. thanks!
Hey Jonathan, we towed just shy of 8,000 pounds with a bone stock 2020 Jeep Gladiator, across the country and back through some mountains. We had 3 adult men and racing lawnmower in the bed of the truck. It did very well, but struggled in the mountains a little and 7th & 8th year were useless. Also, we didn’t have a brake controller and the stopping power was very impressive. We will have a full review video soon, but if you want to see some clips of us towing check us out on Instagram.
There is a lot more than goes into it than that. You need a load leveling hitch with a sway bar control. Most max tongue weight is 300 pounds. Most travel trailer sales retailers should be able to help you out and sell you everything you need to tow safely. Good luck.
This application of math relative to weight should be done to any vehicle, whether it tows or not...even the basic vehicle, small commuter and mini-vans, have gross vehicle weight designed as a safety factor for the vehicle to handle at speed (steer (maneuver), accelerate, and stop). And yes, sales people rarely know anything technical on what they represent at any dealership as they are trained to recognize customers reactions to simple statements and proceed from there to make a sale. Even dealerships rarely have important information related to weight capacities of basic vehicles. Those instances where the salesman knows the technical aspect of the vehicles they sell is truly 2 things: that's all the do is sell that product only (commercial vehicles for example), or they are intrigued in the specific model vehicle itself (special editions, high performance, 4x4, hauling, etc).
Dang this is kinda weird, very useful video but, I used my gladiator rubi to crawl 10,000lbs on a very well balanced trailer going 45 for about 2 miles, wouldn’t do it again but it handled it well and with super careful driving it did it with no problems I even checked it after and it was fine for a short distance it was a kubota kx something excavator and the gladiator was the only truck available
This is a great topic to bring up. In your example you gave weights of a family plus some cargo. Would it not also be the case that you need to add the weight of fuel? So 20 US gallons would weigh approx. 130 lbs - should that be added to your calculation?
The manual says "The curb weight of a vehicle is defined as the total weight of the vehicle with all fluids, including vehicle fuel, at full capacity conditions, and with no occupants or cargo loaded into the vehicle. The front and rear curb weight values are determined by weighing your vehicle on a commercial scale before any occupants or cargo are added." So I think fuel is already accounted for, and then GVWR and payload numbers are calculated after that. So, no need to account for a tank of fuel when you're figuring out how much you can haul or tow.
We have a camper at 4500 lbs. All our packing goes into the camper. Primarily over the axle of the camper. I’m guessing around 500 lbs. Using a blue ox weight distributing sway bar. Currently have a Dodge Ram 1500 with a 4.02 rear end so a little over kill. Would love to get into a Jeep gladiator to pull it. Maybe make 2-3 trips a year with 1 long pull about 500 miles. I want to drop the dodge (love the truck but more than I need) and enjoy the perks of a Jeep. Thoughts?
Great Video!! I've been up in the air with this and am hoping the diesel gladiator has a 1600 pound payload too. If not, I may get a full size truck next.
Your videos are really helpful and I appreciate the effort you put in to provide them. Also on a personal note glad I ordered a Sport S with Max Tow, back in early May, which just entered JB status. How did you do 3 weeks?
Its all for safty. Its no different then getting into a small boat. If it has a weight raiting of 225 lbs. Then you put in two guys that weigh 200 lbs each and their stuff, you may sink that boat if you hit a bad wave.
Regarding the gladiator: We are looking at a new camper that weighs 5400 dry and is 29 long which includes the tongue. The total of all the family weighs almost 500 We usually put about 200 of gear in the back. About 800 (to be safe) in food, clothes, more gear, entertainment items in the camper. So would I be correct assuming I had the Sport model would still have 300 left of payload capacity and still be under the gross vehicle weight? Thanks!
The Ford Ranger SuperCrew 4×4 7,500 lbs tow 1,560 lbs. payload. Jeep Gladiator Max Tow 4x4 7,600 lbs tow 1,550 lbs. payload. Ranger can go higher but only with Supercab vs crew or only in 4x2 version. I personally would not tow a 27' trailer with a midsize truck though.
It's disgusting that RV dealers make major loot off of not explaining this properly and people drive away with discussingly exceeding tongue weights and heavy trailers for their vehicle. One of my friends was even told by an RV dealer here in the Northeast that they could exceed their tongue weight by 250 lb if they use a weight distribution hits. Absolutely insanity.
Looking at a Rubicon Gladiator. Want to pull a 14 foot ATV trailer with two Yamaha Grizzlies. Around 3,000 pounds total. Would you use a brake control and add trailer brakes? Thanks
Does the payload and towing capacity take into account stopping? My JK is rated to tow 3,500 pounds but it could tow 7,000 pounds, there’s just now way it would ever be able to stop while towing that much weight. I’m using the 7,000 pound number as an example. I’ve never tried to tow that much with it.
I tow my classic and show cars on a 22' flatbed car hauler - TRAILER BRAKES is your answer. I've used trailers without brakes and with brakes and I"d never tow anything approaching 5,000 pounds (my trailer with a car on it) without trailer brakes. Manually applying trailer brakes can also help pull you out of a sway condition. I've pulled with a 3/4 ton 4x4 and with my current truck - a Silverado 4x4 with all the towing goodies, I don't care how good the truck is - trailer brakes is the answer for all but the lightest trailers.
It takes into account acceleration, braking, stopping. holding the weight of a trailer on a considerable incline and decline and maintaining control in emergency manuevers. If you look up SAEj2807 you will see the established standardized testing.
A tow test was done with gladiator rubicon and a trailer load of 7,000lbs with two big guys in the cab going up the Ike gauntlet in Colorado by Fast Lane Truck. You should check it out. It CAN tow pretty well, not perfect, but pretty good. Main point is it can do it and alot more than 5k
Your comment of "unsustainable" is incorrect. The gauntlet tow test in colorado was done with 7,000 lbs trailer and about 535 lbs of people riding. Manufacturer is not going give you a rating that will break the truck, it will be conservative so people don't go out and do stupid crap.
all the main truck manufacturers came together and agreed on a standardized test to establish safe towing perameters. It's called the sae j2807 test and if you look it up you can find the information showing how they came up with the numbers. It's a comprehensive acceleration, braking and emergency manuevers test.
YOU OPEN MY EYES TO A FEW THINGS I DIDNT NO. I DIDNT NO THAT THE MAX TOW PACKCAGE WAS THE SAME DRIVE TRAIN AS THE RUBICON WITH OUT LOCKERS. JUST LIKE THE IMPALA SS 95 THE CADILAC FLEETWOOD WITH THE TOW PACKAGE WAS THE SAME MOTOR AN TRANSMISSION THE SUSPENSION WAS DEFERENT AN OTHER LITTLE THINGS. I HAVE OWNED MANY OLDER CHEVY SUBURBAN 2500 AN MY GVWR WAS 8600 LB WITH A MAX TOWING 7500 POUNDS IT WAS ABLE TO TOW MORE WITH THE FULL FLOATER ONE TON REAR 4.10 AN BIGGER MOTOR. MY PAY LOAD WAS LIKE 2500lb SO MY TRUCK WEIGHED LIKE 5700LB WITH ALL THE FLUIDS EMPTY. NOW THE NEWER SUBURBAN 1500 WEIGHS LIKE 5700LB BUT THE GVWR IS LIKE 7500LB ?? AN THATS THE PROBLEM THATS LEAVE THE PAYLOAD AROUND 1700LB AN THEY ARE RATED TO TOW MORE BUT THE PAYLOAD DOESNT GO UP. SO THERE YOU GO IN A NUT SHELL TAKE YOUR GVWR AN SUBTRACT TO WEIGHT OF YOU TRUCK OR SUV AN THATS HOW YOU GET YOUR PAY LOAD OR JUST READ YOUR DOOR JAM. FOR YOU PEOPLE SAY JUST ADD A HEMI!!! THE PAY LOAD WOULD GO DOWN EVEN MORE BESIDES THE PEOPLE THAT MADE THE WRANGLER SAID A V8 WOULD FIT BUT IT WOULDNT BE SAFE BECAUSE OF REMOVEL OF SOME OF THE CRUMPABLE ZONES??? THE GLADIATOR IS JUST A WRANGLER IN THE FRONT. ALL IN ALL THE TOP OF THE LINE JUST ABOUT ANY SUV TRUCK WITH A THAT ADD WEIGHT JUST MAKES THE PAYLOAD GO DOWN. THANKS FOR MAKING THIS VEDIO. FOR WHO DONT NO. HOW JEEP GOT AWAY WITH THIS?? THIS TOWING CAPACITY DEBATE BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME NOW. GOOD WORK
We towed about 8,000 pounds WITHOUT A BRAKE CONTROLLER and 3 adult men, 2,400 miles across the country and back through some mountains and have over 6,000 miles on our 2020 Jeep Gladiator now. It did very well and will have a review soon.
Going isn't the problem. Stopping is. If a deer runs in front of you, or a car stops in front of you, it's game over with 4 tons hooked to a 2 ton truck. And then the insurance company may look at how overloaded you were and throw the hammer at you. Not a situation I want to ever risk being in. BUT... it's awesome that you put the truck to the test and I look forward to seeing the review! Post up a link when it's ready.
Yeah. When those brakes vaporize in any kind of emergency situation your insurance is gonna bail. Not only that, if there are any injuries law enforcement is gonna come down like a nuclear case of crabs. Hell, even a prius can PULL 5 tons. There is much more to it than that
The boys are right. Personal I would not go advertising on social media we traveled across several state lines, over weight, illegal towing capacity. That’s awesome the gladiator could do it, does not mean it was legal to do. Sean is right, if any small accident even happen number one rule for insurance company is to get out of the blame. They would have no problem saying that the vehicle should never left drive way, and should not even been on the road in first place. Just food for thought. Again that’s awesome it did well, but I think twice about advertising it .you know big brother loves getting free money from people posting stuff on social media.
I WANT TO KNOW MORE! I am considering replacing my 2011 Silverado and I tow a 2,000 pound 22' car hauler - my cars weight from 3,000 to 3,300 pounds making trailer with car about 5,000-5,300 pounds (brakes on both axles of the trailer). I am concerned about MPG dropping to zero and about that little engine being 30 hp less and 78 ft/lb less torque! Will be going to Colorado Springs from Iowa next summer - with car on trailer.
Me and my wife pushing that 800 hundred with out the kid brudda shit if the add the kids we camping with sleeping bags and marshmallows the hell with the trailer
This information was SOOOOOO HELPFUL in getting a Sport S with max tow, I really thank you for this knowledge dude, really appreciate it.
This is great information. Trying to decide on model of Gladiator to tow a teardrop
I have one and didn't have no problem hauling my 5×8 cargo trailer and loaded down to Florida
Thank you. I have the '22 rubicon. I haul plants in my enclosed trailer. I will weigh my rig, and tounge weight.
"My Gladiator tows just fine...on the salt flats in Utah". A true quote. I live in the mountains, and have given up on trying to wrangle smaller engines into towing (unless you don't mind climbing mountain passes at 25 mph while wrapping out your engine). Nowadays I tow with a V8: Towing like "its not even there."
Ok i have a 2023 rubicon gladiator. On paper it has everything that a sport or sport s has except maybe stiffer springs. Rubicons have dana 44's i believe- check. 4:10 gears- check, heavy duty cooling- check, 240 amp altinator- check and class 4 trailer hitch tow package. Other than springs i dont see a much of a difference. Unless rubicons weigh more which i would think would be a bit better in towing stsbility if you put a adequate wieght distribution hitch on it. Im on pins and needles since im going to get a 6333 dry weight camper and I know im pushing it. Think ill end up trading for a big horn or something. Just wish thebrubicon was beefer in towing.
Great information. A lot of truck manufacturers push the main numbers too though. They always say in the fine print to check the ratings for your vehicle. I don’t know why anyone would want to push a vehicles to its max limit anyway. If you had a small family, little bit of gear, and a trailer below 5,000 lbs, you should be fine.
this is exactly what i was looking for. thank you for helping me in my decision.
Fantastic and easy to understand. Helps confirm my Sport S w/Max tow package consideration
Can you add Max Tow after you already bought a sport base model jeep?
I know I'm a bit late for this, but this is great information that needs to be out there more. Thank you
A tow test was done with gladiator rubicon and a trailer load of 7,000lbs with two big guys in the cab going up the Ike gauntlet in Colorado by Fast Lane Truck. You should check it out. It CAN tow pretty well, not perfect, but pretty good. Main point is it can do it. OFFRD is correct in all his different numbers he is talking about, however, the rating capacity is already calculated with all those for TOWing. No if you put a bunch of crap in the bed of the truck then yes that is more weight and will be less efficient in towing the max rated amount. But in the test i mentioned the two guys riding in the truck combined was prolly about 535 lbs added weight besides the trailer.
I saw that when it came out. Extreme example, and of course they haven't tested another truck in the midsize segment with that much weight so kind of not fair. But it did show us that the Pentastar can get the job done.
Very easy to follow but to make sure I understand.
(hypothetical situation here)
Say stock truck has a payload capacity of 1600#.
1) Figure out the weight of the old wheels
2) Add that weight to the Payload capacity
3) Figure out the weight of the new wheels
4) Subtract that weight from payload capacity
5) This would give me my new payload capacity numbers which would probably be lower than 1600#...
Right?
Good point, my 06’ Dakota as configured has a 5,950 lb towing capacity, but has a 1,610 lb payload capacity, the devil’s in the details.
How well will this tow a lite camper trailer..say 5500 pounds loaded?
This is VERY helpful. I’m looking to get a truck and tow things. Good info to know
Man I was so excited to go buy one of these but after watching this the gladiator probably won't work for me I have 7x16 with 2 ultra classics inside probably best option is to buy a diesel thanks for the video
Go look up Fast Lane Truck video of gladiator rubicon towing 7,000 lbs up Ike Gauntlet in colorado. UP THE MOUNTAIN. You towing two motorcycles WILL NOT be a problem!!
I just ordered last week a Overlander, what you explain on your video,was never tel to me,so thank.
Jean-Luc Dorais from Quebec.Canada
Thanks for the tip. Would you be so kind and make another video of the Sport S model you built with the options you chose? I'm torn between the Rubicon and Sports S Model with Max Tow. Price difference was $4000.
Absolutely. Any day now mine should be delivered.
Same. I am looking to get into a gladiator probably this fall/winter. Love the JLs but would love a truckbed even more. Please do a review of your gladiator, along with any future mods you would do etc. thanks!
Hey Jonathan, we towed just shy of 8,000 pounds with a bone stock 2020 Jeep Gladiator, across the country and back through some mountains. We had 3 adult men and racing lawnmower in the bed of the truck. It did very well, but struggled in the mountains a little and 7th & 8th year were useless. Also, we didn’t have a brake controller and the stopping power was very impressive. We will have a full review video soon, but if you want to see some clips of us towing check us out on Instagram.
There is a lot more than goes into it than that. You need a load leveling hitch with a sway bar control. Most max tongue weight is 300 pounds. Most travel trailer sales retailers should be able to help you out and sell you everything you need to tow safely. Good luck.
This application of math relative to weight should be done to any vehicle, whether it tows or not...even the basic vehicle, small commuter and mini-vans, have gross vehicle weight designed as a safety factor for the vehicle to handle at speed (steer (maneuver), accelerate, and stop).
And yes, sales people rarely know anything technical on what they represent at any dealership as they are trained to recognize customers reactions to simple statements and proceed from there to make a sale. Even dealerships rarely have important information related to weight capacities of basic vehicles. Those instances where the salesman knows the technical aspect of the vehicles they sell is truly 2 things: that's all the do is sell that product only (commercial vehicles for example), or they are intrigued in the specific model vehicle itself (special editions, high performance, 4x4, hauling, etc).
Dang this is kinda weird, very useful video but, I used my gladiator rubi to crawl 10,000lbs on a very well balanced trailer going 45 for about 2 miles, wouldn’t do it again but it handled it well and with super careful driving it did it with no problems I even checked it after and it was fine for a short distance it was a kubota kx something excavator and the gladiator was the only truck available
This is a great topic to bring up. In your example you gave weights of a family plus some cargo. Would it not also be the case that you need to add the weight of fuel? So 20 US gallons would weigh approx. 130 lbs - should that be added to your calculation?
The manual says "The curb weight of a vehicle is defined as the total weight of
the vehicle with all fluids, including vehicle fuel, at full
capacity conditions, and with no occupants or cargo loaded
into the vehicle. The front and rear curb weight values are
determined by weighing your vehicle on a commercial scale
before any occupants or cargo are added." So I think fuel is already accounted for, and then GVWR and payload numbers are calculated after that. So, no need to account for a tank of fuel when you're figuring out how much you can haul or tow.
Very helpful! Thank you very much!!
We have a camper at 4500 lbs. All our packing goes into the camper. Primarily over the axle of the camper. I’m guessing around 500 lbs. Using a blue ox weight distributing sway bar. Currently have a Dodge Ram 1500 with a 4.02 rear end so a little over kill. Would love to get into a Jeep gladiator to pull it. Maybe make 2-3 trips a year with 1 long pull about 500 miles. I want to drop the dodge (love the truck but more than I need) and enjoy the perks of a Jeep. Thoughts?
Great Video!! I've been up in the air with this and am hoping the diesel gladiator has a 1600 pound payload too. If not, I may get a full size truck next.
Gladiator with EcoDiesel has a payload rating between 1,000 and 1,200 lbs. depending on options. The GVWR is only 6,200 I think. Maybe 6,350 tops.
I once towed a Silverado 700 miles with a yj jeep lol. Swapped rolls
🤣🤣🤣
Let’s say there’s a sport model with the regular towing package. What’s it gonna be rated for compared to the max tow package?
6000#
Your videos are really helpful and I appreciate the effort you put in to provide them. Also on a personal note glad I ordered a Sport S with Max Tow, back in early May, which just entered JB status. How did you do 3 weeks?
Review your owners manual for all the different ratings. GVWR etc.. Towing basic book. It’s all out there.
Good advice! Thanks for the video.
Great advice and insights!! Thank you so much!!!
Awesome information. Thank you!
Its all for safty. Its no different then getting into a small boat. If it has a weight raiting of 225 lbs. Then you put in two guys that weigh 200 lbs each and their stuff, you may sink that boat if you hit a bad wave.
Regarding the gladiator:
We are looking at a new camper that weighs 5400 dry and is 29 long which includes the tongue.
The total of all the family weighs almost 500
We usually put about 200 of gear in the back.
About 800 (to be safe) in food, clothes, more gear, entertainment items in the camper.
So would I be correct assuming I had the Sport model would still have 300 left of payload capacity and still be under the gross vehicle weight?
Thanks!
Mojave model?
Thanks for the advice.
That is why I bought a new Ford Ranger. 7500# tow. I have a 27 ft 5600# trailer. 65 mph 14 mpg.
The Ford Ranger SuperCrew 4×4 7,500 lbs tow 1,560 lbs. payload. Jeep Gladiator Max Tow 4x4 7,600 lbs tow 1,550 lbs. payload.
Ranger can go higher but only with Supercab vs crew or only in 4x2 version. I personally would not tow a 27' trailer with a midsize truck though.
Gr8t information to know.
Why is the rubicon much lower than the max tow sport
It's disgusting that RV dealers make major loot off of not explaining this properly and people drive away with discussingly exceeding tongue weights and heavy trailers for their vehicle. One of my friends was even told by an RV dealer here in the Northeast that they could exceed their tongue weight by 250 lb if they use a weight distribution hits. Absolutely insanity.
The gladiator tows a 7000lb trailer pretty well. But as he said watch your weight in the truck.
Looking at a Rubicon Gladiator. Want to pull a 14 foot ATV trailer with two Yamaha Grizzlies. Around 3,000 pounds total. Would you use a brake control and add trailer brakes? Thanks
So a tracker v165 proguide fits perfectly in the weight rating. What is your thought on towing with the manual?
Does the payload and towing capacity take into account stopping? My JK is rated to tow 3,500 pounds but it could tow 7,000 pounds, there’s just now way it would ever be able to stop while towing that much weight. I’m using the 7,000 pound number as an example. I’ve never tried to tow that much with it.
I tow my classic and show cars on a 22' flatbed car hauler - TRAILER BRAKES is your answer. I've used trailers without brakes and with brakes and I"d never tow anything approaching 5,000 pounds (my trailer with a car on it) without trailer brakes. Manually applying trailer brakes can also help pull you out of a sway condition.
I've pulled with a 3/4 ton 4x4 and with my current truck - a Silverado 4x4 with all the towing goodies, I don't care how good the truck is - trailer brakes is the answer for all but the lightest trailers.
It takes into account acceleration, braking, stopping. holding the weight of a trailer on a considerable incline and decline and maintaining control in emergency manuevers. If you look up SAEj2807 you will see the established standardized testing.
Good information
How are the milestar patagonias holding up?
Fantastic and they'll be going on this truck soon.
Honestly they shouldn’t rate it so high. I wouldn’t tow a 5k travel trailer with it.
All manufacturers max rates are really unsustainable from a safety perspective. Marketing has a thumb on the scales there
A tow test was done with gladiator rubicon and a trailer load of 7,000lbs with two big guys in the cab going up the Ike gauntlet in Colorado by Fast Lane Truck. You should check it out. It CAN tow pretty well, not perfect, but pretty good. Main point is it can do it and alot more than 5k
Your comment of "unsustainable" is incorrect. The gauntlet tow test in colorado was done with 7,000 lbs trailer and about 535 lbs of people riding. Manufacturer is not going give you a rating that will break the truck, it will be conservative so people don't go out and do stupid crap.
all the main truck manufacturers came together and agreed on a standardized test to establish safe towing perameters. It's called the sae j2807 test and if you look it up you can find the information showing how they came up with the numbers. It's a comprehensive acceleration, braking and emergency manuevers test.
@johnthibodeaux5189 Jeep does this at least because it has brand image to maintain like Ferrari
Thanks Karen
Leave the wife at home. Gives you 300 lb back to play with
YOU OPEN MY EYES TO A FEW THINGS I DIDNT NO. I DIDNT NO THAT THE MAX TOW PACKCAGE WAS THE SAME DRIVE TRAIN AS THE RUBICON WITH OUT LOCKERS. JUST LIKE THE IMPALA SS 95 THE CADILAC FLEETWOOD WITH THE TOW PACKAGE WAS THE SAME MOTOR AN TRANSMISSION THE SUSPENSION WAS DEFERENT AN OTHER LITTLE THINGS. I HAVE OWNED MANY OLDER CHEVY SUBURBAN 2500 AN MY GVWR WAS 8600 LB WITH A MAX TOWING 7500 POUNDS IT WAS ABLE TO TOW MORE WITH THE FULL FLOATER ONE TON REAR 4.10 AN BIGGER MOTOR. MY PAY LOAD WAS LIKE 2500lb SO MY TRUCK WEIGHED LIKE 5700LB WITH ALL THE FLUIDS EMPTY. NOW THE NEWER SUBURBAN 1500 WEIGHS LIKE 5700LB BUT THE GVWR IS LIKE 7500LB ?? AN THATS THE PROBLEM THATS LEAVE THE PAYLOAD AROUND 1700LB AN THEY ARE RATED TO TOW MORE BUT THE PAYLOAD DOESNT GO UP. SO THERE YOU GO IN A NUT SHELL TAKE YOUR GVWR AN SUBTRACT TO WEIGHT OF YOU TRUCK OR SUV AN THATS HOW YOU GET YOUR PAY LOAD OR JUST READ YOUR DOOR JAM. FOR YOU PEOPLE SAY JUST ADD A HEMI!!! THE PAY LOAD WOULD GO DOWN EVEN MORE BESIDES THE PEOPLE THAT MADE THE WRANGLER SAID A V8 WOULD FIT BUT IT WOULDNT BE SAFE BECAUSE OF REMOVEL OF SOME OF THE CRUMPABLE ZONES??? THE GLADIATOR IS JUST A WRANGLER IN THE FRONT. ALL IN ALL THE TOP OF THE LINE JUST ABOUT ANY SUV TRUCK WITH A THAT ADD WEIGHT JUST MAKES THE PAYLOAD GO DOWN. THANKS FOR MAKING THIS VEDIO. FOR WHO DONT NO. HOW JEEP GOT AWAY WITH THIS?? THIS TOWING CAPACITY DEBATE BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME NOW. GOOD WORK
In the UK we only get half size trucks but if you imported a F450 it could still legally only tow 3500kg 😂😂 bloody tyrants.
He’s in the UK also - just a better type of UK 😼
We towed about 8,000 pounds WITHOUT A BRAKE CONTROLLER and 3 adult men, 2,400 miles across the country and back through some mountains and have over 6,000 miles on our 2020 Jeep Gladiator now. It did very well and will have a review soon.
Going isn't the problem. Stopping is. If a deer runs in front of you, or a car stops in front of you, it's game over with 4 tons hooked to a 2 ton truck. And then the insurance company may look at how overloaded you were and throw the hammer at you. Not a situation I want to ever risk being in. BUT... it's awesome that you put the truck to the test and I look forward to seeing the review! Post up a link when it's ready.
Yeah. When those brakes vaporize in any kind of emergency situation your insurance is gonna bail. Not only that, if there are any injuries law enforcement is gonna come down like a nuclear case of crabs. Hell, even a prius can PULL 5 tons. There is much more to it than that
The boys are right. Personal I would not go advertising on social media we traveled across several state lines, over weight, illegal towing capacity. That’s awesome the gladiator could do it, does not mean it was legal to do. Sean is right, if any small accident even happen number one rule for insurance company is to get out of the blame. They would have no problem saying that the vehicle should never left drive way, and should not even been on the road in first place. Just food for thought. Again that’s awesome it did well, but I think twice about advertising it .you know big brother loves getting free money from people posting stuff on social media.
I WANT TO KNOW MORE! I am considering replacing my 2011 Silverado and I tow a 2,000 pound 22' car hauler - my cars weight from 3,000 to 3,300 pounds making trailer with car about 5,000-5,300 pounds (brakes on both axles of the trailer). I am concerned about MPG dropping to zero and about that little engine being 30 hp less and 78 ft/lb less torque! Will be going to Colorado Springs from Iowa next summer - with car on trailer.
@@billdickerson2228 Google towing. Most pick ups can handle 5k. Depends on your specs.
Me and my wife pushing that 800 hundred with out the kid brudda shit if the add the kids we camping with sleeping bags and marshmallows the hell with the trailer
700 lbs for 4 people?! Those superchunks need to be trailered, kick em out of the payload equation.
200 for dad. 130 for honeypot. 200 for the rugrats. Thats 530.
Other than that spot on. U see lots of trucks beyond maxed out out there. Scary stuff