The Houses of the Edain (Men) | Tolkien Explained
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- Today, we trace the origins and migrations of the Men of Middle-earth, including how the three Houses of the Edain were founded - the ancestors of the Númenóreans. Starting from the time men awake in the far East, to them become the Houses of Bëor, Haleth, and Hador.
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Check out my previous video covering all the clans of the Elves (there's a LOT!): th-cam.com/video/nuK3LuRbyrU/w-d-xo.html
Great Video, as always! Thank you for all your hard work and all the effort.
Are you planing on doing a video that covers the „powerlevel“ between the dwarves, elf and men? Their unique abilitys and how their strength/positives are decaying over the time?
Do you ever accept art submissions for your videos? I love immersing myself in your videos and the artwork really helps visualise what you are describing. As an artist myself I would love to illustrate something that would contribute to a future video of yours!
Can you make a video of fingon son of fingolin and ecthelion of the fountain ?
Would it be possible to have a download link to the Maps you use, I can't find any anywhere of the first through to the third age.
We tend to forget that Elrond and Elros not only were descended from all 3 houses of the Edain, but also of the 3 houses of the Eldar.
Yes, not to mention Maia blood from Melian.
Wait, where do they get their Vanyar from
@@haydenpoop2280 Their great grandmother Elenwë who was the wife of Turgon King of Gondolin was a Vanyar. There only child Idril married Tuor a Mortal Man, who was of the House of Hador. Their child was Eärendil who married Elwing daughter of Dior son of Beren & Luthien. They had twin sons Elrond & Elros. So their Vanyar blood is through their father's mother's mother's line.
@@Alexs.2599 Thanks for clearing it up!
@@haydenpoop2280 No problem, Cheers.
Hurin's words to Morgoth are one of the most underrated badass moments in Tolkien's works!
The whole scene is incredible!
@@NerdoftheRings an excellent reading! the underlying music made it all chill inducing!
Morgoth: Tell me where Gondolin is or i'll curse your entire family
Hurin: Try me b*tch
I realize that Tolkien meant to play this story out like a cycle of tragic irony, but my question is why wouldn't it be considered a matter a heroic valor to defy Morgoth instead of playing it out as a kind of hubris?
@@keithtorgersen9664 I agree. It always bugs me when human protagonists confront evil-doing, or clearly murderous gods or godlike figures and it’s interpreted or ends up playing as hubris, pride, what have you. It’s calling out a murderer, who cares that they are gods?
I loved how nuanced tolkiens languages are. Just now I realized that the elvish word dunedain, is simply the word dun, which means west, and Edain. Thus meaning western edain, the numenoreans.
The fact that Men managed to travel the entire continent in less than 3 centuries and developed a variety of cultures and languages showcases how change is not a curse but a miracle too.
I always get in my feelings about Finrod and his human buddies 😢
It’s pretty unrealistic really that their languages and genetics would change that fast lol
@@MerkhVision the us is 3 centuries removed from England. And we are wayy different
@@avipinckney In languages and genetics?
And without the protección and guidance of the Valar.
Some researchers think it only took a few generations for humans in real life to traverse the whole world, from Africa to Australia and the Americas. It was our nature, we spent our lives walking and on the move, exploring and hunting, no farming yet, so we just kept walking where ever there was land. It's so amazing to me but when you really think about it it makes sense, humans just kept walking for generations so with all that time and movement we reached pretty much everywhere in (for us) a relativelty short period.
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Much love to you, my friend. ❤️
mlw209, I'm sorry.
Pray and be strong. Your loved one would want that. My condolences extend to you and I wish you well.
Onward, my friend. Its the only way. I lost someone recently also.
Much love to you, and my condolences 🙏
I've read this thread, and all I can say is I hope after a year has passed, you and your loved ones are okay. These vids are elixir to low emotions.
The Sindarin word Edain, singular Adan (Quenya Atani, Atan), meant 'second people', and originally referred to all mankind - later it applied specifically to the Men of Beleriand and their descendants. However, the Quenya name Atani remained as a term for all mankind.
Tolkien's creativity, thoroughness and dedication to detail are always astonishing. The history of men could be a series of books/shows/movies all on their own. Same for the elves and dwarves. Keep up the awesome work.
I finished the Silmarillion for the second time recently. Strongly considered just restarting it immediately. It’s become my favorite story, even more so than Lord of The Rings. LOTR is a realistic take on a fantasy adventure, still mostly concerned with men. Silmarillion tells of incredible events before history even began, right up until the end of the greatest Elven civilizations in Middle-Earth. The creation of the Silmarils, the tale of Beren and Luthien, The Battle of Unnumbered tears….it makes Sauron and the War of the Ring look like what it is: an echo, a shadow of greater battles and threats that have always existed and plagued the Peoples of middle Earth.
Can you make a separate video about the House of Haleth or Haleth herself. Totally underrated among the three houses of the Edain.
Indeed, and just to clarify a bit, Hador was the the grandfather of Hurin and Huor, and the mother of the brothers was Hareth of the House of Haleth.
And to connect everyone even further, the mothers of Turin and Tuor, Morwen and Rian, were cousins and members of the House of Beor, specifically their fathers were the first cousins of Beren.
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Gotta love how Hurin insulted a Satan analogue in the most badass way possible
These videos are so useful for those of us who’ve read Tolkien’s work over a long period of time, and struggle to find the time (or audio books) to re-read them! Thank you!! 😊
You nailed it on this one! The music along with Hurin's defiance of Morgoth... excellent.
We know it takes a lot of time and dedication towards these videos. Love from Sri Lanka. Brilliant video. We always appreciate your hard work and dedication towards these videos.
A video about the easterlings of the first age would be great.
I cover them a bit in this video on all the Easterlings: th-cam.com/video/GUxo-rYa7XU/w-d-xo.html
@@NerdoftheRings Thanks!
The Sundering of the Elves is more well-known to us Tolkien scholars, but its great to see how men awoke and travelled throughout time. Its a lesser known piece of the lore that few knew until now. And its shown in an easy and visual way. I always wondered how men awoke and travelled to Beleriand and how the groups of men splitted from one another like the Elves did when they awoke and travelled to Valinor.
I realized while watching this, this would make for such a great tv series, each season focusing on each houses.
You didn't have to go that hard in reading Morgoth's lines, but you did, and it made this video superb.
I do not always comment, neither can I support you other than by subscribing and watching your videos. However, I really want you to know how much joy your channel brings me. So keep up the great work and don't leave Middle Earth yet, okay?! There will be another ship that can bear you to the Undying Lands!😉
Thanks so much for your kind words, and for enjoying the videos. It truly means a great deal to me. 🙏
I can't monetarily support him either, but the next best thing we can do besides liking and subscribing is commenting on the videos, it drives the youtube algorithm to some way to help others find these videos.
Thanks so much for the video once again. Keep up the great work ✨
Just finished the Silmarils and this was a much needed guide, what an amazing quality, well done and thank you 😊
man, the work you do is fantastic. I absolutely love this channel, very well paced and great visuals to match whatever topic you are on. Thank you for what you do.
The fact that men awoke at the very first rising of the sun might be the inspiration of the solar references on numenorean armors, banners and ships on Amazon's "The Rings of Power". If you're into this stuff, these and other related things are on my reviews of RoP. Feel free to browse through them on my channel
You are killing these videos man. I always look forward to them. Thanks so much for creating them and doing the rings of power breakdown videos, I'm sure it takes a lot of time
Great job, not long ago I was curious about the houses of the edain and did some research but this really helps with the visuals, so easy to follow. Keep up the fantastic work!!!
Thanks for everything man! I love your channel, keep up the great work
Thanks for all of your hard work!
I’ve loved seeing your channel explode. 🎉❤
Thanks so much! It's been so fun to see this community & channel grow the way it has in the past 2.5 years. Thinking back at how I almost gave up on it less than a month before it started taking off blows my mind. lol.
@@NerdoftheRings You deserve your success. I like that you never capitulated to the (recent) ROP haters to grow your base either. I wish I had your strength to stick with things (or even start them) that are prone to failure.
Thanks for all the work you put into these videos. Love these lore videos!
Excellent video! I enjoy these Lore videos that bring back to mind things I have forgotten or didn't previously know.
As usual Matt, you never dissapoint with your Tolkein stories. I love your content and I do hope you become a showrunner of one of these stories from the first age 👌❤
Much needed video b/c I just read the Children of Hurin, and those family trees had me all discombobulated.
The answer that Haleth gives to the elves when they ask her people to guard the forest of Brethil against the Orcs, really stuck to me. She basically says: "Where are my father and brother? If you think that I would become friends with the creatures who ATE my kin, you know nothing about our people." Truly a woman of steel. Screw RoP's Galadriel, I want to see a series or movie about her. And she doesn't even need to become an allmifghty fighting machine, her character alone is impressive.
I think the fact that Orcs regularly eat human (and other) meat is not talked about enough. Contrary to the movies (where there are just a few quotes), in the books, this is mentioned constantly. Even in The Lord of the Rings. 😅 This gives awhole other dimension to the wickedness of Orcs, the fear of them, but also the misery to which Morgoth has condemned them.
Such a good video! Easy to follow and super interesting. Great work.
I really appreciate your videos being in 4K and you using high resolution artworks/upscales of classic artworks. If one day you will have talked about all there is in the legendarium we will have a beautiful collection of it to go back to!
Superb story-telling as always. Thank you.
Fun/Not so fun fact: There is an unpublished silmarillion chapter called the Wanderings of Hurin, which tells of how the House of Haleth was mostly wiped out. Basically, Hurin came to Brethil after being released from Angband, where after some initial talks, the people treat him well. I don't remember specifics, but essentially Hurin gets two of the leaders of the House of Haleth to fight each other through recklessness, and they basically cause ruin to themselves.
awesome vid Matt loved it looking forward to the next as always 😀😀😀😀😀😀
Ahhhhh I’m so happy! I requested this on IG and it’s finally here! ❤
Great video Matt, loved it, i look forward to more 1st age videos, some video ideas... Video explaining some characters from fotr like farmer Maggot, Tom Bombandil and Goldberry, Old Man Willow, Barliman Butterbur... Maybe a series of covering lotr books... Like a video per chapter with a q&a at the end of the videos
I'm a closet Tolkien fanboy...your videos are seriously the best and I cant get enough of this stuff
I had never heard of people's journeys from Hildorien to Ered Luin anywhere before. I would like to especially thank you for this part.
Loved the theatrical play between Hurin and Morgoth. Splendid execution.
1st Age stories always get me. Loved it.
I wish you had dealt more with Morgoth's first interactions with Men, as described in MORGOTH's RING. But of course that is a bit outside this specific subject.
A masterpiece- one of your best lore vids!
Cheers!
Great vid keep up the good work friend
Someone needs to buy the rights to do a board game like "War of the Ring" set in Beleriand.
Yet another amazing video!
Brilliant voice acting! Well done!
Elros's Lineage from all the 3 houses was so deep.
Love the vids men been watching you from the start. Keep up the good work. Love from the netherlands
your interpretation of the dialogue of hurin and morgoth was badass
Very cool, thanks for posting
So many cool stories Tolkien played with over time...
Even before the term Edain came up i remember in the Book of lost tales ther was the Tale how the Elf Nuin awakened the first two children, Ermon and Elmir...
Or the Story about the First temple Andreth told Finrod...
I think he never reused or revisited them, they are not in the Silmarillion, but i enjoyed reading these apocryphic stories on the origin of man.
Thanks for this. I just started then Scilmarillion this weekend and was a little confused by some of those houses. This cleared up my confusion.
While Hurin is giving the business to Morgoth, I imagine a chris tucker from friday kind of hype man in the back, "that's my dawg! That's my dawg!"
I love your videos. make the work day go much quicker and have reinvigorated my love for middle earth 🌎 😍
Great videos, I'm learning a lot about the lore! Things I never would have known before. Though I gotta ask since they do get mentioned a fair bit, would you be interested in making a video about Wargs? Always did want to learn more about them.
Love love your work
Great job as usual
Hurrins words to Morgoth. Is the epitomyof great moments in hero speeches against the darkness!
Nerd of the Rings, Please do a video on the men of Estolad.
I’ve been waiting for this video
Amazing video!
Ooh been waiting sooo long for this thanks. Hoping for anything dol amroth related
Yes! Please! Somebody needs to cover Dol Amroth!
2:49 OfGondor*, 12:09 Excellent Christopher Lee impression from Children of Hurin Audiobook: "REFUSE YOU"; well done.
Drug means "friend" in some slavic languages, Rhun sea almost reminds of position of Caspian sea
I do love me some drugs..
Awsome the speech gave me chills man.
This video is just *chef's kiss*.
This was so helpful, thank you!
The origins of the houses of the Edain seemed so murky and unintelligible to me before this.
Thank you for the content. I was hoping to get more about the Westernese, Dunlendings, those of Dol Amroth, and Beornings. Do you think you may do a video about the history of the races of men found in Middle Earth during the Second and Third ages?
Hi Matt, Could you please make a video of how and to whom high kingship of Naldor passed from Finwe to Gil-Galad and Similarly about the kings of Numenor
That Morgoth voice.. well played!
Great video. Def some stuff here I didn’t know. I know you e done a Numinor video but I’d be interested to see how the 3 houses of men form the men of Numinor and what factions there might have been there from these 3 groups. Hope that makes sense. 🍻
Outstanding!
And if I'm not mistaken Aragorn came from these men. Most excellent sir! I wait all week for your videos, and they are worth it! Thank you for your indepth history on Middle Earth. Also enjoyed the short video this past week. Waiting for next week already. Have a good weekend!!!
@Lucius DeBeers Yes you can.
Yes he's a decendant of all three houses of the Edain.
@@Alexs.2599 and Elrond’s nephew
@@mudyao Yes true, through many generations. Aragorn is a decendant of Elros the first King of Numenor and Elrond's twin brother.
Technically most humans did, didn’t they? Lol pretty sure they’re everyone’s ancestors, not just Aragorn’s!
I was hoping you’d explain the Edain after their recent mention in the TV show
Wanted this vedio so badly
Finally this video come, Haleth always my favorite edain house
Would really be great to get a description of the appearance of the House of Haleth and House of Marach/Hador.
The House of Hador gets a nice description in the Silmarillion:
"His people were of great strength and stature, ready in mind, bold and steadfast, quick to anger and to laughter, mighty among the Children of Iluvatar in the youth of Mankind. Yellow-haired they were for the most part, and blue-eyed." And since they're the most populous of the houses, we can safely assume that most of the Numenoreans (and later Gondorians) were golden-haired, blue-eyed, good-humored giants.
The people of Haleth, not so much. We get a throwaway line that they're kind of like the House of Beor in looks and mood (dark hair, gray eyes, serious) but smaller in stature and less eager for lore. They were also loners and not big fans of talking too much, while the people of Beor were a lot like mortal Noldor.
Love the phrasing of the last sentence.
Well, maybe I'm just immature.
Bless your heart ❤️
I'm a Karen Wynn Fonstad apologist. In this case I will always interpret the "Sea of Rhun" as actually the "Sea of Helcar", since the former was only formed after the "War of Wrath".
I'm currently reading the children of hurin. that scene was amazing
"And it is these three houses of men that would stand against Morgoth in the First Age".
The house of Bór: are we a joke to you?
We were literally 2 SECONDS away from greatness, be were THIS CLOSE!
This is one of my favorites of your videos. Well done.
Manwë: If it's not tall, unworldly beautiful and immortal, I don't care for it!
The Valar giving no fs about the Men and letting them fall under Morgoth's power the moment they wake, then getting pissed because the Men didn't follow their orders 🤷♀️
Grate job
imagine being an elf and seeing a man getting old for the first time and wondering what strange sickness had taken hold of your beloved friend
One thing i would actually suggest you to do is look into the people of Bor & Ulfang. Bor in particular whose people were as Tolkien described, of African descent, also came into beleriand in the first age and proved faithful to the elves. They were also almost wiped out during the battle of un-numbered tears. But i am pretty sure Bor had descendants (wife, kids, cousins, nephews...etc) who didn't go to the war, and who refused to go back east. No doubt these folk were also granted passage to Numenor due to the the faithfulness of their leader Bor. Although Tolkien didn't specifically mention this, however the breadcrumbs are there to be put together.
So Numenor may have been made up of the three main houses, but also most likely a lesser number of folk from the house of Bor the faithful aswell.
Something to reflect on.
Hi, thanks for your video! I like being able to see so many different images alongside the different people, places, events, etc., but I'm having a hard time finding some in the video description. Specifically, I'm trying to find the different maps used in this video. Could you please help me with where I can find them?
Good vid. I just finished the Silmarillion and this was one of the more confusing parts, hard to keep them all straight lol
thanks❤️
This would be a great tale in a series
I've been waiting for this one! Cheers!
Hey, how about a short history of the Druedain?
Quality of this video was outstanding!
Thank you