Really F'ing Bad! Hours Added to Road Trip w/ 2024 Genesis Electrified GV70
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- How bad is the infrastructure right now? Really f'ing bad as Managing Editor Jill Ciminillo found out while taking a road trip with the 2024 Genesis Electrified GV70.
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🤣😭😭 Chicago to Austin, Tx took an additional 10 hrs in a Tesla 3 due to charging issues! ICE car is 17hrs...in an EV 28 hrs and a overnight hotel cost. EV currently is good for around big cities. Need ICE for long trips.
Automakers are building “Cart before horse”
It’s the government’s responsibility to make sure the infrastructure is there
Sadly, it is about what I expected. Like traveling through the wastelands of Nevada and wondering if you have enough gas. At least there I carry extra gas, hard to carry those electrons lol. But you are right, the infrastructure needs help and until then, great local commuters that I can't recommend more!
I have this car. As you mentioned, it's a great commuter car. That's what I use it for. If you want a road trip car, pick something else. The charging network isn't there yet. EA just isn't ready. If Tesla opens its network up, problem solved. But people need to relax. There weren't gas stations on every corner when the first ICE cars went on sale.
I have a level 2 at home and free charging at work. I only charge to 80% and charging is literally never an issue. Just plan ahead a little bit.
I will also say the settings make a huge difference. I don't know what settings you had for this video. But if you put in eco mode, dial up the regen, turn off the AC, etc. Drive in traffic vs. highway, it makes a huge difference.
I just got matching ones for my wife and me. I have the prestige and she has the advance. We aren't road-trippers. We don't even use level 2. In remote and she works 3 days out of the house. We are at 80% every morning. I love the max regen and over the first 300 miles my range is lasting longer and the short trips are sucking less battery. My wife has a charger at work and we have a DC fast charger 5 minutes away that is $25 flat per hour if needed. We did a road trip to Austin and had multiple electrify America stations en route and a charger at our hotel. It's not going to be perfect everywhere but you have to make that choice based on local infrastructure.
Yikes, what a nightmare. Talk about range anxiety. Thanks for sharing your story
Just get a Tesla....No anxiety there....
@@1flash3571watch to the end.
Just wondering if you tried the Eco mode? It disconnects the front electric motor and apparently extends the range a bit. Asking because I’m considering this vehicle. Thanks!
@@jordancohen3465yeah nothing wrong with the car if we're being honest here. Could it use more range? Yeah sure of course but when driving an EV right now you need to plan accordingly and if you don't then it could be unpleasant experience. Always have a backup plan as well.
I would say for shorter trips EVs are fine how they are. It's those cross country ones where I would rather take an ICE car even if it means it's gonna be expensive. I'm willing to pay that cost for less stops and charging time which will add up the longer the trip is. Also super charging aka DCFC prices are almost like gas prices at this time so there really isn't any benefits to driving an EV for longer road trips.
These charging companies are getting greedy with their profits and it's hurting the EV rollout. EA has a lot of locations but the real problem is that at each location there isn't enough stalls as there is always one or two that are not working out of average 4 stalls. They need to make a minimum of 8 stalls at each location. I'm not sure why this is so difficult for them to do. At popular locations we need at least 12 or even 20 stalls. They need to plan for the unexpected like holiday rushes.
It's like building a two lane freeway in the middle of LA and expecting that everything will be fine all year around. I can't wait for more competition when it comes to EV charging which will hopefully bring prices down too. EVs are the future but unfortunately not right now cause some countries like the US has no idea what they're doing. Relying on companies like EA is a joke. It's like they failed on purpose if I'm being honest. I know things will get better but it's been several years already. We should've gotten this down by now.
They are exactly what I thought they were.. try that in my cold climate in -40 deg and you will freeze to death
I work in the electric industry. You have no idea how impossible it is for us to "heavy up" the lines for charging. There is no name for the number of dollars... bazillion quadrillion... all to be paid by ultimately your tax dollars and utility bills. Its a multi decade transition with a cost so high you literally could not print enough money to achieve.
Think of the amount of raw materials needed for just the line replacement/upgrades 😬
Govt. didn't think this out to well did they? Proves they are not the sharpest tool in the shed. Most of them become politicians because they can't make it in the real world, so they just become a leech off of society's taxpayers.
It would add about 20 percent more electricity demand,not including transmission loss to replace the gasoline burned in the USA a year. That's not including diesel.
49 percent of our fuel for electricity is natural gas. Adding 20 percent capacity to the grid would literally require updating everything.
A visit to a public charging station is like a visit to the Bureau of Motor Vehicles where you should expect long waits and frustration 😡 😅 🔋
Not always, but in this case yes.
Tesla owner here and this is one reason I didn't go with EV from other brands. Tesla supercharger network is vastly more reliable and seemingly everywhere. I've taken numerous road trips including a 6000 miles trip from GA to CO then east to NY then home without one charging problem. And my Tesla has none of the infamous built quality it was known for; that's old news now. Most OEMs finally have realized their mistakes of wanting to rely on third party chargers for their cars and now are joining the Tesla supercharger network. But it's taken them too long to do that after causing too much inconvenience to their customers.
Ironic.....texting & driving is illegal, but we're allowed to read distance warnings and surf google maps for charging stations.
Thank you for providing real-world insight into owning an EV. It just does not make sense for long-distance traveling until the Infrastructure is sound.
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No. This is real world insight into owning a NON Tesla EV. A Tesla EV would have no issues like this.
Glad you made it, thanks for the laughs
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Thanks for confirming my well deserved bias against the current EV push by this current administration. Very fitting that this video would come out the same day that the news reports that not ONE new charging station has been built with the 7.5 billion dollars that were allocated in the “Infrastructure” bill passed by congress. I would simply not place any of the family members I love in a position of sitting, at night, in a public parking lot, with nothing but “after the fact” security cameras (maybe) for protection, waiting for a feeble and slow charge. The energy density available with current gas and diesel fuels on a quick fill-up basis put the EV solutions to shame unless there is a major breakthrough in battery storage technology or a change in the laws of physics to allow for quick charging. If these cars are so great, why do they need all of the taxpayer subsidies to make them competitive. Let the Market sort it out and consumers decide if an EV makes financial sense after deleting all of the government subsidies, during and after manufacture, that accrue to the taxpayers to fund?
Oh, no! Walmart parking lot, two chrging ports busted, and a long line! She has 122 miles of range, 132 miles to drive. And no fast chargers on her route. She's now #3 in line, after an hour of waiting. She has another hour to wait. "EVs don't make sense," under current conditions. I'm keepin' the Civic (stick)! It's amazing she seems so cheerful! I'd be pretty effin' bummed. Yay! She made it home! Waiting to charge: 7th circle of hell! I agree Jill! And like you, I do like the Genesis (I drove an ICE Genesis. Nice car!) Thanks Jill, for a great video!!! I enjoyed riding with you!
So much for road trips, an American tradition… the future is not an ev in my garage.
Maybe if you shut down the the heater and drove 20 MPH might have made it😂
The biggest mistake with the government incentives to build charging stations is that the incentives are to build them with no requirements to maintain them. Great video👍👍
The incentive is cronies get a big fat tax write off, so they can line up their pockets in exchange of campaign contributions.
Hey Jill,how did u get sucked into this?Lol
Thank you for sharing. While I am very sorry you had a bad experience, it's a chance for us to learn and avoid the same pitfalls. I love my EV VW ID.4 with 275 mile range. It gets me from North Jersey to Philly round trip (230 miles) w/out a need to stop. I ONLY LOVE it because I'm fortunate to have a home charger. Prior to installing a home charger it was a nightmare going to EA to charge. Typically, only three fast chargers and one usually broke. I would need to go after 11PM to get an open charger. I came across your YT channel while researching the Genesis GV70. I was considering upgrading to GV70 since you can lease them for $399 w/$4000 DAS. However, given your experience with range anxiety and the 230 range with the GV70- I'll stay with the ID4. On longer trips I use my ICE SUV. Thanks again and looking forward to more content.
That's not the lifestyle for me. I pray synthetic gas is the way we go if we are going away from "fossil fuels"
Thanks for doing the real world vid. Shows actual barriers to ev adoption. Depends on your needs whether an ev fits into your life/budget.
100%
Hopefully a better battery than lithium ion will be available commercially in a few years, if EV's are going to succeed. LI-ion are bad enough for power tools when the battery dies
in the middle of a cut. Of course ni-cad were even worse. Great video. Thanks.
LFP are better, but the infrastructure is the main problem.
Well, you *could* have chosen to drive 55 or 60MPH (instead of 70) and arrived relaxed & refreshed, with a smile on your face knowing that 400 mile round-trip had a fuel cost under $15.
When you understand what an EV does well, and not so well (like 200 mile road trips below freezing temperatures), it makes the drive much more pleasurable.
They will have to pry my fingers off the steering wheel of my gas burning vehicle before I end up in one of these EV's. You could not give me one.
I enjoy jill's ev reviews alot
Thank you
@@jillciminillo sorry about the bad charging experience...
This is an eye opening video but it kinda stressed me out . Crazy
It stressed me out as well!
C'mon... seventh circle of hell is watching a Cubs game.
Fair. #GoCards
No way I'm going to give up my gas vehicle 😢 I would be extremely frustrated 😤 😫
No one is asking you to
As I’ve said many times until the infrastructure is in place and everything is working as advertised EVs are a pipe dream and toys for the rich kids, but not feasible for everyday use.
You have to look at how far your trips are. If you never drive further than 80 miles away form home, than you are OK. If you do this often, or need to take the car over 1000 miles, then you may want to get a Tesla with 370 mile range.
The answer is plug in Hybrids with more electric range…most of them today offer barely 40 mile electric only ranges… put a package together that offers 100 mile winter range with a small gas engine backup and all this would become less of a problem…Volvo even manages to recharge their batteries while driving on gas…another option.
I just drove 5000 miles across country in 8 days ,filled up my diesel 1/2 ton every morning, drove all day on one tank ,took 4 minuets of my time to fill tank . Should have took a plane but they pollute alot .🙂
My buddy has a Ford F150 that gets horrible, gas mileage, but it has this big giant gas tank. He drove from Maryland to Florida only had to fill up once. Sure it cost a lot more money than electricity but sometimes you have to pay for convenience in life
we're keeping our 2010 tundra 4.6 v8 dc 114,000 miles .like new
You nailed it with your final comment-Tesla is the only game in town right now! Not because they build a better car, because they don’t but they build a comprehensive solution that makes for a better user experience
Yep
But they still make junk. I just watched a video where a guy ran over a piece of debris in the road and it slightly damaged a vent on the battery and they quoted him $20,000 to fix it. It’s like driving around a piece of glass it’s crazy. Why are people buying these fucking cars?
Actually, Tesla has some of the best range vehicles out there for the prices. The thing with Tesla is they build their cars for efficiency, the other electric car manufactures just convert gas cars to electric.
So from the standpoint of efficiency and range, yes they have the best cars out there. If you want to argue about luxury, I just don't know about that. The new updates on their model 3 and Y will make them a lot better.
This Tesla not good quality is just the media hating on Musk for the most part, complaining about 2mm panel gaps which can easily be fixed.
Tesla is also the only company selling cars profitable.
As someone who doesn't want to have two cars (one for city driving and one for road trips), I will stick with ICE for a quite a bit longer. I don't have a garage for a home charger, but I only drive 2 miles back and forth to work. An EV would work out for me with the current infrastructure, but I would never travel with it. I can't imagine the frustration of pulling up to one of the few charging stations to find out I have to wait in line as other cars are unattended because the owners are shopping or eating or the charger doesn't work. When I can pull up to a gas pump and put 400+ miles of range in my truck in less than 10 minutes, that is the way to go for now.
To me, a PHEV the bridge. 40 to 50 miles of all electric range, and then 200 or 300 miles or more when you need to take a road trip…
Why not get a Tesla, as they have a much better network and also 370 mile range cars. You wouldn't have this problem with a Tesla. They have charging stations everywhere and they charge very fast.
She's drafting behind a semi! Reminds me drafting behind a tractor, on my bicycle, fighting a headwind on my bicycle in MOntana lo those 48 years ago. Go Jill!
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You said in the video that EVs are really only for commuting. I’d agree.
So these 100k vehicles are really the equivalent of a fancy bicycle. And bicycles are a lot better for the environment. I won’t be letting go of my v8 any time soon.
well, anything within say 80 miles with this particular car. Which most people don't exceed probably 90% of the time. But who doesn't have multiple cars these days and you should have a gas car as a backup.
No one is asking you to.
Screw EV's....Even if there were charging stations everywhere the last thing I would want to do is sit around for 30 minutes to 2 hours waiting for my vehicle to charge up. What a farce !
And longer if you have to wait for the other guy/girl to finish their charge. Some charging stations are having problems too.
EVs around town, ok. Across country, no way.
Hahaha screw evs bra be thinking the comment section gonna change other ppl minds - your just that type of person who don't like them that's okay / but other ppl figure out things to do and it makes there life more fulfilling you see em all walking there dogs etc haha ppl are having fun waiting that 20 30 mins it's just yal that hate em - I have 2 EVs and I keep em both minty and paid very happy with my lil 20 min hahahaha
unless of course you were smart enough to buy a Tesla.@@jw8578
@@radioa3stheticyou the type of person that hates it when other people think differently than you lol. Relax Sista!
Five minutes to fill up my Mazda three $27 450 miles range. Cold Weather or hot 450 miles range. Why in gods name would I buy an electric vehicle. Another thing people don’t understand is these electric vehicles become garbage after the battery warranty goes up at 100,000 miles nobody wants them because the battery is $20,000 whereas my Mazda three will go 300,000 miles with minimal maintenance same with any Toyota or Honda in
Sucks that the middle of the country is so bad for chargers.
Great video!
Just love a stress-free roundtrip.
Pause the video at 7:16.
Its the equivalent of a modern circus show.
Oh no, 😟
EV at this time is only good for in town driving, I would go with battery or battery/EV.
Perfect example of why evs are not the way to go ,hybrid only.as usual us putting cart before the horse.iff you live in a city and go nowhere ev may work charging at home
At this point, I wouldn’t take an EV if someone gave it to me. And this video solidifies that sentiment.
I'd gladly take one for free. Perfect for daily commuting, especially if you have a 240v outlet in your garage.
@@mowcowbell I agree. If you have a second vehicle for long road trips, I think you’ll be fine. But to buy $100,000 truck and not be able to take it on road trips is a bit odd. Lol.
PHEV - if you want a car with a cord right now, that's the only practical solution.
Jill's already a short tempered person! Put her in a ev she turns into a monster!
I’m actually not short tempered, you just catch me at the wrong moments. And they are all on camera.😂
@@jillciminillo Love you Jill!
@@Danzilly ☺️
besides the charging infrastructure, how was the build quality of the car? any interior rattles or such? Merry Christmas! :)
I agree with you Jill on this..EVs are not the way to go currently. Infrastructure is a joke
EVs are the way to go if you’re a two-car family, and one of them is an EV. IMHO
Best realistic range test yet!
Realistic but perhaps a bit skewed to prove a point that charging infrastructure is lacking in *her* area (which it is)
I mean, who would take a trip in a gasoline-powered vehicle with the fuel for only 200 miles across a desert after seeing a sign "No gas for 200 miles" ?
The most interesting thing about this was watching the little red warning triangle on the drivers side mirror keep flashing to warn you about oncoming traffic 8-))...
That aside. The electrified GV70 is a damn nice looking EV. And the interior looks gorgeous. Way better than the stark interior's of a certain other car maker.
It would be one thing if they only built compact or city cars with 200 miles of range to drive in the city.
But a truck towing an rv you have to recharge every 60-70 miles makes no sense.
Recently drove 5000 miles roundtrip from San Diego to Wausau, Wisconsin and back in a gas hog 2020 X5 M50i BMW(523 HP), rated for 22 miles per gallon on the HWY. With a 22 gallon gas tank and it's 22 mpg rating we got, when averaging 75-80 MPH, we averaged 450 miles between gas stations. We paid an average $3.00 per gallon(almost double that in California at the time). I can only recall one time when we encountered an EV(Tesla X something) on the Interstate HWY's that we travelled, poor devils. Anyway, enjoyed your eye-opening video immensely.
I have to turn the heat off in my new BEV. I see you have it set to a comfortable 72. Should have used seat heat only.
She had it off for most of the trip until her feet got cold. Which is assanine to have to do…
@@volvotwoseries3384 The video showed the heat on and she said it was off at the end though.
I own a Tesla Model S for 10 years now and didn't experience any charging issues when I travel. At home, I charge in my garage. Tesla has the Superchargers (DC) every 150 +/- miles off highway and I never experience any Superchargers that didn't work. The NACS certainly helps the non-Tesla EVs. By next year (Spring 2024, I believe), several brands can use the adapters to charge from Superchargers. Electrified America doesn't do a good job to maintain their DC chargers. The 350KW charger does not matter if it doesn't work, right? Sorry to hear your bad charging experience on the road, Jill.
You have to realize that the messages from the software all all written by lawyers to avoid liability. "May need to" means definitely will have to. Act accordingly.
Question: when your range goes to 'zero' does that mean the battery is completely drained or down to ~10%?
Correct. Dead.
I’ve talked to a lot of product specialists, and they say there is actually “something“ after you hit zero, but they won’t tell you what that is. Could be 2 miles could be 30 miles.
the technology isn't even there yet
I think you'll be so angry by the time you are done your road test you'll be taking a baseball bat to that car and you will swear to never ever ever! get behind the wheel of one of those ever again. Maybe? Lol
And yet… I’m there right now. Another video to come on or after December 11…
@@jillciminillo Looking forward to your reviews. They are very real world. I appreciate that.
I have a Chevy Bolt EUV. 247 miles range listed. This is my First winter with it. Ran out of charge twice. 1 mile from home and 1 mile from office. I drive with no heat to extend range and leave window cracked to keep glass from hazing.
She made it! To her parents' house! Go Jill!!! But her feet froze!
Hey Jill,
Riddle me this? What will come first! Cars and trucks with more range or more fast charging stations?
As always stay safe and healthy!
Ron
Very good question. I’m going to guess the latter.
Great video. So many comments here that confuse the messed up CHARGING NETWORK with EV’s. EV’s are fine. At home, overnight charging means you never need to go to a public charger. How often do I drive for trips over 275 miles? Once a year. In my gas vehicle, I stop every 3-3 1/2 hours. Sadly, Tesla’s network is the only answer for Americans on long trips. Europe doesn’t have this problem.
I do 200 miles every other week. 🤷🏻♀️
@@jillciminillo then you would not need to stop to charge. Maybe once if from LA to Vegas is about 270 miles, a 4 hour drive. My hometown is 375 miles or 6 hrs away and I drive home maybe once a year. My job is 17 miles from my home. EV’s are not a problem for me.
@@sharonb.9128 in the midwest winter, temperatures are a huge problem for range. So 236 miles becomes 190, which means I have to stop.
@@jillciminilloit just occurred to me that you are “the Jill” from the channel. I will definitely bow out to the person who reviews cars for a living.
@@sharonb.9128 🤣 it’s all good … just took an RIC road trip in an EV with very different results. Stay tuned …
Great job on the video, I appreciate the honest open hearted conversation. But I agree I would buy an ev till nacs is available but I also don’t care for Elon musk 😅😅😊😅
so you had to do the "Apollo 13" thing and shut off heat so you could make it back home, just like the astronauts. LOL
I did, actually. Didn’t work.
@@jillciminillo I'm glad it did work for the astronauts.
@@Boobtube. 💯
The infrastructure of charging networks is growing quickly but the automakers except Tesla failed to recognize the importance of charging when building cars.
My experience is that Sunday afternoon and evening is the worst time to travel in an EV with limited charging infrastructure because that’s when the most people are trying to get home.
I had a Tesla with 230 miles of range for four years and had no problems driving on road trips. I’ve had a VW (ID.4 275 miles) this year and using the other brands of charging has been a little more fraught, but I haven’t had any unsolvable problems. I’ve had to call EA to reboot chargers several times and a few times use a charger that was at reduced power.
I’ve found it can be worth plugging into a charger that says it isn’t working, because it might not have worked for the last car, or it might just need to be rebooted. I’ve had success twice at that rather than waiting for a working charger to be free.
I drive semi and I have seen lots of EV either draft me or someone because it was really windy or need the range. Yes they are putting the cart before the horse on infrastructure for them here.
I ordered a new car last month. Guess what it isn't. Electric.
Don’t stop. Push the limits.
You are asking for troubles...I wouldn't wanna be you....
Just curious if there are Tesla Supercharging stations on your route. I am NOT suggesting you should have bought a Tesla - just honest curiosity.
There are many more Tesla Superchargers on that route. Tesla opening up those chargers to non Tesla vehicles can’t come fast enough. Indiana is horrible for CCS charging stations.
There are, and once most automakers switch over to NACS, life will be a much happier place.
Just tooo much anxiety involved for me. I already have heart issues and my wife doesn’t like when the tank gets below half. EV’s will NOT work for me with the current technology. EV’s would probably work for around town but not for road trips, expensive grocery getter!! I like the idea of plug-in hybrid but I wish the electric range could be 100 miles. Nothing like turning a few hour trip into a days adventure. Are you going to suck electricity from your parents now? Wow, poor and limited infrastructure and apparently no one around to repair them. There were out of service units at both your stops. Bottom line, we need to build up the hydrogen infrastructure, but apparently our politicians have their money tied up in batteries.
Also Jill, sitting at these remote charging stations kind of leaves you wide open for criminal activity. And you live in Chicago!!! And you’re not allowed to protect yourself in that state. Oh man, you’re screwed.
There is no range anxiety with a Tesla.
8 years of ownership, 48 states traveled, national parks and deep rural areas included.
Tesla is the only company who actually wants people to buy and use EV’s all the other companies hope they fail so they can go back to selling gas cars.
When I charge at night, I do always take my husband with me. And I will point out Illinois is a concealed carry state.
@@jillciminillo yes for sure it is but try to get one these days.
@@noniespam I will
@@jillciminillo Thats good to hear! take care of your self, and keep up the good work reviewing autos with Tim...
Go hybrid the only way to travel! More mpg and less wait times for the electrons to waken!
This is undoubtedly the best video that I watched on this channel. 👍
Wow, thanks!
I've bene thinking about buying an EV, but the fire issue has scared me. I live in a townhouse, and if it caught fire, I would be in deep doodoo. Also, been hearing about insurance going up for EV.
Wonderful review -- kind of settled my decision on whether to go the whole EV route or stick wtih a hybrid for long range roadtrips.
Tesla the only e car worth buying?
Yes, I can take mine all through the lower 48 states, and it’s a pleasure.
Until you want to sell it. Have you seen how bad resell value is on teslas?
Same here. I got my Tesla this spring. Driving from NY to NC is not an issue.
She simply has the wrong EV. Either get a Tesla or something that uses the Tesla infrastructure if you want to do some road tripping.
If you're not charging at home, an EV with the current technology will never be faster on a road trip compared to a ICE vehicle. Not sure why the CCS network has to be so complicated and buggy compared to the Tesla Supercharger network. Those units require no screens or tapping your CC or phone. You plug in, they start charging.
If you had slowed to 60-65 mph from the start you would of probably made it without stopping and saved time in the long run. It's not the solution to all long distance EV travel as that needs a good charging infrastructure but in your case where range and distance were close you needed to maximise your range sensibly.
EV's: great for local errands/commuting.
Not so great for road trips.
Compromises exist for every class of vehicle (truck vs SUV vs sedan vs sports car, etc); EV's are more like a different class than just a different powertrain.
I don't foresee any jump-changes across the country anytime soon, especially in more rural areas.
unless you drive a Tesla of course
This is why I think the Ram Ramcharger makes sense. With lousy infrastructure for4 EVs, having one that uses gasoline takes away the anxiety while letting you recharge at the charging station when one is available.
The ram chargers gonna cost nearly $100,000 so while it might work it’s gonna be 20 years before the average man can afford it.
@@SuperSnakePlissken No argument here.
That’s the whole point in mandating EVs…..to limit your travel.
Wow! I was one of the early adopters but went the hydrogen-electric route with the 2nd Gen Toyota Mirai. It's basically hybrid with hydrogen instead of gas, with 365 mile range & 7 min fueling to max (when you get a pump that works. Partial fill is a thing too). Absolutely wonderful car (super smooth EV experience in a Lexus-level luxury car) but the infrastructure is abysmal. Almost 3 yrs later, I know range anxiety and broken fueling stations quite well (even with a gas car as backup). I didn't think the electric charging infrastructure is still this bad. Adoption of NACS won't solve much as there's already a ton of Teslas out there to compete with. I love the GV70 but opted for the 2.5t gas version this time around. Beyond the frustrations, the time you lose dealing with fueling is just crazy (time is money). EVs are meant for short range driving and charging at home overnight.
You have the wrong EV. Either use a tesla or an EV that uses the Tesla infrastructure.
🤣🤣😆😆😂😂 its not like EVERYONE has been saying this before anyone even got an EV 🤣🤣😆😆😂😂👌👌
I don't have any problems with My Tesla....LOL
Can you just go until it dies, then call roadside assistance to get you the rest of the way?
That is one way to deal with range anxiety. But how long do you have to wait for roadside assistance? And do you really want to do that at night?
@jillciminillo I guess the wait time depends on where you are located. Last time I broke down on the highway it took them thirty minutes.
It sure is fun riding with Jill. But, oh, dear, the chargers are full! OMG, she's going to try to mke a go of it! With 6 more miles of range than distance! Nope, she just has 4 extra miles of range.
I cannot imagine spending $65K+ on an EV (or any car for that matter) that you cannot just jump into and drive to wherever. I live in Socal and we do have a lot of charging stations, but not even close to enough for demand and to top that off - who in their right mind is willing to wait 2.5 hours to charge in cold weather to get home? And based on her video that was only six or seven vehicles involved!! Idiots are the one's who have to wait ...
If 234 miles range can't get you 196 miles, bad news!
I agree it is all about the infrastructure, but if you are not traveling all the time and you can charge at home the EV is great. It will be a game changer when Tesla opens up the SC network. I will say we have 2 EV and one ICE (truck) and I use the truck way less around town and we have take our EV on long road trips several times along I-15 and up into Idaho from SLC UT and had ZERO issue in charging using DCFC, did I have to wait at times. Yes, when i got into CA as there a zillions more EV in CA, But it was not more than 20 mins. Sorry to see you had such a poor experience, we fortunately have not had such luck and are happy to move the last ICE vehicle to EV (Maybe a GMC Sierra Denali EV).
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The only game changer is when power grid across the country fail because the federal government refused to supply the energy required for the EV’s that they push upon the citizenry.
@@SuperSnakePlissken if you do just a little research, power grid is continuously being upgraded. It's a known fact they are improving it every year. No sense in being a doomsayer. If you have ever driven an EV it's actually a better driving performance machine. Also, there is data that shows we are using less power with more EV on the road. The power grid is keeping up and appliances are using less energy ( more efficient). I will say if tomorrow half the cars are EV we could have an issue. But it will take time for that to happen, and the grid will just get better.
Sitting in a parking lot at night all alone you become a target😮
Only good for commuting where it parks in it's own home and charges every night. But our betters tell us we must. hmmmmmmm
Yup. I’ll just stick with my ICE powered manual transmission pickup truck.
EV charging in Canada is worse than the US, imagine that road trip using Hydrogen fuel.
North America should be hybrid only till fast chargers are at every gas station... every single one!
I don’t think they ever will be sufficient infrastructure. Ev sales have slowed way down so no reason to pump more money into infrastructure.
I appreciate the video. You confirmed most of my concerns about owning an EV. Just not a practical solution for your average person yet who needs a dependable mode of transportation. A car with only a full range of 236 miles in ideal temperatures. That's a non starter for me.
I know you said the automakers should do something about the infrastructure, but do you or anyone really think they care to spend the money for it? Isn’t EVs soon going to be a mandatory thing where you have to make certain amount for all automakers in USA? If so then that’s up to the government and let’s be honest anything left to the government doesn’t go to well. I don’t know so I thought I would ask.
It takes a village. And right now the village is sleeping.
they aren't ready for road trips but would make a great daily driver with at-home charging
Really great car for a different use case - charging at home, normal driving. Maybe the smear wasn't intentional in the the clickbait thumbnail, but I'm glad to see the views aren't getting out of control.
Cripe it's like Star Trek: divert all power from the environmental systems, turn off the headlights (which you can't do), turn off the radio, turn off all non-essential systems, and maybe you just might make it back to Star base 57. It's the end of the driving vacation when they go all EV. What a joke.
Wow this is interesting! How is it going to go when everyone gets their EV in a couple years? I would love to have seen Tim do this video! Bleep, bleep, bleep and bleep!😂
I would have rented a car. :)
@@Pickuptrucktalk Me too! 🤣
It's not just the infrastructure, it's the whole concept of charging taking 60-100 times longer than pouring a little gas in the tank.
I like the idea of having an old Nissan leaf that I can charge with solar just in case we have an apocalypse and I can still get around 40 or 50 miles that’s about it
this won't work until we have easy ways to swap batteries