The Ultimate Holland Track and Beyond Road Trip - A Brilliant 4WD Adventure
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2023
- Join this intrepid group from the Wanneroo Wanderers 4WD Club as they tackle the infamous Holland Track, one of Western Australia’s premier 4WD circuits within a day’s drive from Perth. It is a big group (15 vehicles) that take on the challenge and it is not without incidents. One drowned car, a few bogged vehicles requiring recovery and a lot of socialising around the campfire.
Grab ya gear; Lets go!
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Kudos all round. It certainly turned into quite the challenge - another very interesting account, thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it
Your mate with the Ural should have gone on this trip. You could have gone ballast in the chair.
Chris would have enjoyed that track...very doable with the Ural.
Well......... have always wanted to go on that track............ you have just made it obvious I will NOT be doing it! Hahaha
Do it!!!! It is better to regret the things you have done; then the things you haven't. 😀
@@mongreldogproductions Yeah ..........BUT.......... I am a loner and am thinking that track is not a good one for me...... Looks like you had a ball though! Back in the day I would have done it with others.....
It's not what you think, there are "chicken tracks" at each bad section and if you really hate mud then there is always an option. You are never obligated to go down the trenches, some so deep that the only way to get out of your vehicle, if stopped at the bottom, is via the window.
You could always go and do it as many groups allow tag alongs if you’re properly setup. And if that falls through a weekend like that one Steve did has enough ppl around to help you out of a hole if needed.
Did the track in 1989 in a ford Falcon 2wd , easy trip , sad to see the condition of the track now,
You should be the ambassador for outback travel. You enjoy it so much 🍻
It was a mission to access, but I got my alternator out and cleaned up, and it started throwing 13.6 volts back in again 🎉
Thanks for stopping to say hi 👋
I'm watching your Goldfields Rocks adventure now
Not an easy job out in the field I wouldn’t think. Darren reckons you have to remove half the front end on that particular vehicle. Not something I have the skill set for. Glad you were able to get yourself going again. Hope you enjoyed the vids. Thanks for watching.
I spent the money on a water cooled fully sealed alternator. For this exact reason.
@@R00RAL I think the bloke was gunna do that once he returned to Perth...
The Australian military bought the Mercedes G-wagons.......and those have both a 12v and 24v alternator as per specs required by the military. One of the alternators is down low in the engine bay.....its always being replaced. Bloody amazing they got that one fixed in situ.
we did the Holland Track the same long weekend i remember you guys letting us pass i was towing a Jayco Swam Caravan . It was rough in places but we got through un damaged . thank god for chicken eh ?
Thank god for chicken...
We bumped into you at the halfway suitcase/visitors book. Glad to hear you got through unscathed, good effort.
As usual Steve, thanks for taking us along for the ride. I’ve got my gear ready for the next one. Best wishes, John.
Thanks 👍
Another excellent production Steve. It would appear there were some in the group for whom it was a steep learning curve.
As you have previously said - 'preparation is everything'.
Thanks for taking us along.
Bloody good effort!
thank you for another great doco. i have flown over this track many times but did not realise how tough going it was.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great clip, I’ve done the track myself and it’s amazing how many people underestimate it. This track claims a lot of vehicles.
Totally agree
When you pulled up at Katanning I wondered whether the building next to the carpark was an old railway station. I found the location on google maps and the Katanning Miniture Railway. A bit more research uncovered the building was the Kendenup Railway Station in a previous life.
Keep up the good work,
Anthony
I had to watch the vid again...then I noticed it. Glad you enjoyed the vid. Thanks for watching.
Toyota alternators [ speaking from mine site experience ], take a 5 litre pump bottle, spray water through the alternator while running, will often clear the mud out and make things happen again. We have them as part of our remote travel gear.
Good advice, Darren (the guy who knew a thing or two about a thing or two) does carry a similar bottle (Mechanic by trade). In this case, the Alternator had sucked up some serious mud included twigs, grass and weed. It was gunna take more than just a simple rinse. Thanks for the tip. I guess the bottle would have other uses...fire ext etc.
Excellent as always,,, thanks Steve
Very welcome
Great video thanks Steve
Glad you enjoyed it
Excellent video, thoroughly enjoyed it 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Love your video productions mate. Always very well done.
I can imagine you would be frustrated when you have so much traffic with a large group. Always waiting on the slowest.
Good on you for showing what trips like this are like.
Last time I traveled the Holland (a few years ago now), I did it solo with my daughter. Beautiful country and definitely a track worth experiencing.
The solitude when camping is fantastic.
Awesome Steve! I did this track in 2022 over the same long weekend with a mate. I flew over from Vic to do it. It’s a cool track and I thoroughly enjoyed it even though I didn’t do any driving (a first for me). I found the vegetation and terrain very much like what we have in the Murray Sunset NP in north western Vic which makes sense because this vegetation type apparently used to stretch almost all the way across the continent from what I understand!
My mate was at it again this year doing it in the same direction as you did in his midnight blue Subaru MY hatch and a bunch of other Subaru enthusiasts - hard group to miss if you saw them!
It’s great to see something I’ve done on your channel 😝
Great trip on the Holland Track , lots of deep muddy water etc where even the chicken tracks are hard . I don't understand why some of the Toyota drivers didn't get the sealed alternator because the standard alternator is very prone to failure in muddy water crossings if they were going to do the track . Oh well lessons learnt :-)
Darren, the guy who got the car running, did mention the aftermarket sealed jobby. I think Ray was gunna organise that when he returned to Perth.😀
$2500 reasons why. Removed, cleaned, reinstalled and good as new.
Good on ya mate 🎉😊
Thanks 👍
Looks a bit bloody packed for an isolated track!
It can get busy being only half a day drive from Perth. At least the cars are being used for more than just the school run! Thanks for watching.
@@mongreldogproductions Thanks for uploading!
Was very busy out there that long weekend.
Great video Steve drive safe
Thanks, you too!
Another great adventure Steve and well documented. Looks like a good one to do on the bike👍
It can be tough going on a bike depending how you're set up. I did it on the R1200. Too fat, too heavy, too old (me). On a skinny bike being supported it would be fun. Glad you enjoyed the vid. Thanks for watching.
The difficulty with a bike is that in the narrower sections of track you are not able to ride the centre mound (due to growth), meaning that whichever side you do chose you will have either the hand brake lever snagging bushes or the clutch lever. Did the Gunbarrell in 1974 and this was a huge issue.
Hi Steve. Greetings from Vic. Have you been to or aware that the graves of two great Australian pioneers are in the old Coolgardie cemetery. Ernest Giles and Darcy Uhr?
We visited the Cemetery...saw the Grave of John Holland. Wasn't aware of the others. Might have to revisit one day.
Me an my son an law are thinking of going in January
North west wet season can slide on down that way that time of year
Looking forward to it steve.
Something to be said about a more simplistic engine setup like my 2003 TD42 Patrol when it comes to repairs in the field.
Great video...Thanks
Yeah, unfortunately machines are getting more and more complex. I can swap out the Alternator, water pump, radiator and his spark plugs in my Son's 1974 HQ Holden in about an hour. You cant do that in modern cars anymore. Glad you enjoyed the vid.
Thanks Steve
You’re welcome…
I have a handy hint. If you jack a car up on any kind of jack and take a wheel off so you can work under the vehicle, take the wheel you removed and place it under the vehicle. That way, if the car falls off the jack it might save you from getting squashed and will make easier to get the car jacked up again.
Great advice...Darren did that by placing the front wheel under the bash plate at the front of the car. Safety first! Thanks for watching.
@@mongreldogproductions Oh right. I couldn't see that from the shot in the video.
But it doesn't hurt to remind people, especially when there is a little bit of extra pressure on the system!
Absolutely love all your videos. Need more like every week lol but i guess you can't go out for milk too often lol
Hahahaha...since going for milk, I've been kept on a short leash (nah, not really). I go out, come home, produce a vid, rinse, repeat. Blessed life! Thanks for watching.
Looks like great fun for flat terrain but if I get to do it I’ll not tow anything that’s for sure
Was out on the Holland Track in the same weekend and saw those Toyota's with alternator issues being towed out. We were a group of 3 vehicles and only one had issues when it ran out of ground clearance in a "trench". I last traversed the track 12 years ago and am disappointed at the state of it now. Very few of the people going out there are there for the historical significance, it now being a 4WD playground for the majority. On return home the next day saw my 200 series up on stands, all wheels off, and much water applied to remove what you referred to as "cement", even the disc rotors were filled inside, and on the way home the mud had to be removed from the wheels as it was causing massive imbalance on ther highway.
Hi John, I did the Track 10 years ago on a motorbike and i can remember some BIG holes even back then. I guess its our version of the Old Telegraph Track leading up to Cape York. Some drivers (fools?) want to challenge themselves and their vehicles and take on some of the obstacles with a 'all or nothin' approach. Obviously, it can have some very negative (and expensive) consequences. Thanks for watching.
I reckon I might be a bit easier and a lot faster on the adventure bike. Definately want to give it a go.
I did the Track on a R1200 years ago. Never again! Too wide, too heavy, too big. A lotta riders do it supported so they are not carrying any weight. Smart to do it that way.
Great channel Steve! Broomehill to Emu Rock.. better By bike or 4wd? Looks pretty tame, no major pin striping. Thanks,
Easy Peasy...easily done by bike. No difficult sections thru there...all farmland from memory.
If I ever do this track it will be in the Summer time, I have no desire to test my vehicle in bog holes or chew up the track. The alternator location on the 200 series including the 70 series is an inexcusable mistake by Toyota. It's almost inaccessible.
3 hours to access it. Terrible engineering design
Hey Steve. Great video. Love the macro drone view and its perspective. Rut damage is extreme but nothing a dozer / grader blade cannot fix. Have you done the Holland on the DR before ?
Nah, I'm a slow learner. I did the HT on the R1200 lol. It was that particular trip that made me realise i could not keep taking that bike in places it was not meant to go. Either i was going to destroy the bike or hurt myself quite badly. That's when i decided to buy a second more practical bike depending on where i was going. Tough going on a 1200!😀
Geez, Steve. What genius of a designer decided that mounting an alternator at the bottom of an a engine was the smart thing for a 4WD. Was it a Landcruiser???
It was a Landcruiser…V8. Not much room under the bonnet. Apparently other manufacturers have figured out how to top mount them. A lot smarter! Thanks for watching.
Steve mate. Where’s the wheelbarrow and mankini you promised ! Did you pick up any new knowledge on this trip? like how to strip down an alternator in the middle of bum F nowhere👍🏴
No wheelbarrow and no Mankini...you must be disappointed. I wouldnt even attempt what these guys did to get that car back on the road. They would find my bleached bones in the Desert with a plastic container with all the parts in it. I'm good at pulling things to bits...getting them back together is another story.
@@mongreldogproductions if you remember correctly “I said wheelbarrow and turned down wellie” you said mankini. It would have gone viral and your subs. Stay safe and well. 👍🏴
@@alasdairhamilton1574 oh yeah, that’s right. The Mankini was my fantasy😂😂😂. I better use a good sunscreen…don’t want sunburn! 😀
So many big heavy cars full of electrics, loaded with lots of stuff for luxuries, running light AT tyres through the water... what could possibly go wrong? I'd much rather travel on my own then with 15 other cars, it's just one giant traffic jam.
...what could possibly go wrong! Horses for Courses. I am a Member of the Club and I guess we have the option to travel in groups or solo. Sometimes, I travel independently. We are all different. Clubs are a good starting point for those who have recently bought a 4WD but dont have the knowledge or confidence to go it alone just yet. Thanks for watching.
@@mongreldogproductions horses for courses for sure, I'm just a miserable old git who doesn't like seeing other cars through my windscreen, certainly shouldn't complain if others are more sociable and clubs are a great way to do that!
But sometimes it feels like newer people spend more on the top half of their cars compared to the bottom - when I see the shiny new SUVs going through a deep puddle I worry if they've got things like breathers etc, or if the diffs and electrics are going to pay for it down the line
@@morvan68mt I totally agree. I did the Gibb River Road some time ago and had breathers fitted specifically because of the water crossings. I’ve been involved in the transport industry my whole adult life so I like to think I know a thing or two about a thing or two. Others aren’t so fortunate and have to learn the hard way. It’s up to guys like you and me to pass on our experience so they are as prepared as they can be. They will be thankful for the time that we give them. That is another beauty of any Club…a wide cross section of knowledge to help pass down and share experiences.
For the record, I don’t even have carpet in my Hilux…too hard to hose out 😂😂😂
G'day Steve. Thanks for uploading! I am planning on doing the track in the next few weeks...mid November. Will assume water should be fairly well gone by then. What's your thoughts on towing an off road camper? Not aiming to sink my 70 series in any mud if I can help it! Cheers for your thoughts.
Hi Borby, "my thoughts"???? Doable...as long as you realise there are sections where the chicken tracks can be tight to negotiate. Would I take an off road camper trailer there??? Probably, if it was going to mean being a little more comfortable than lying on the ground like a dog. Go for it! Thanks for watching.
Good onya Steve...thanks for the info
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Back at ya!
The trip look great, how did you go getting the bmw home or is that for another video.
The bike took 3 weeks to get back to Perth via Great Central Road and its now being repaired. 3 week delay getting the Torque Rod ex Germany. It will be back in the game shortly.
That mud slurry will kill more than just your alternator over time. Most of the Toyotas have the alternator down low like that. Worst spot for it. I know a few serious 4WDers who carry a spare with them. If I am towing my trailer outback I will throw in a spare alternator for my Land Rover. Most modern cars won't get very far once the battery voltage starts to drop. The computers don't like it. Another good video thanks.
Yeah, nowadays you need power just for the fuel injection alone. You are only gunna get so far without an alternator. Thanks for watching.
Hey mate did you keep the coordinates for the trip .
Nah, I was following the guy in front…do you want to know something in particular?
I still can't understand why peaple take realy nice expensive late model computer reliant vehicles threw 2foot of muddy water an crap in the middle of knowwhere. As always great video Steve .
It's the lure of a big muddy hole! Some people can't help themselves, when they know the smart thing is to drive around! :P
@@kdjat tru an they wonder why there bearings an brakes rust an fill with grit..
Good question! Glad you like the vid.
Hi Steve
I was intrigued that you had taken the rear seat out of your Hilux, obviously to give you more cargo space. Does it affect the licensing, Rego or insurance of the Ute. We have a Hilux, same model and have just finished 9K km camping trip (tent) around QLD and NSW, space and easy access to both cab and tub were an issue. Removing the seats will solve some of those issues, did the cab get noisier with the seats gone. We live in NZ our Ute is in Albury NSW and love touring around Australia and plan on doing more. Have also done a few motorcycle tours in your great country. Cheers John
Hi John, never thought about rego or insurance...cant see why it would make a difference. It is not a modification. There is more 'road noise' but i'm happy to live with that. I just turn the radio up louder. The fridge sits in the back seat area (made a simple timber base) and when wifey comes with me on trips we carry 4 large tubs double stacked with all our food and consumables in the area. Make sure you have easy access to jack and wheel changing gear (which normally is positioned under rear seat. Regards😀
Will you ever tow a trailer offroad.?
Not there...
How come no one uses chains.
Chains??? For traction or for recovery. Ropes and straps have evolved over the years. Chains are heavy, cumbersome and tend to rust.
seems a LOT harder than riding the 650
Yeah, but cold beer and steak at the end of each day. And a decent mattress to sleep on!
steak? all you ever show cooking is a chicken in your dutch oven! 🤪. maybe having more than one beer and the mattress I'll give you!
@@johnzee691 in regards to the chicken, I guess I’m tryin’ to show others that you don’t have to do it hard while you’re out there. A little imagination goes a long way. The steak were eaten days before that. 😀😀
I've seen you cook them in past videos. I've just never cooked one that way, one day. @@mongreldogproductions
4 wheel drivers take note, mount all your recovery gear in place on the front bull bar or whatever before you go, makes all that attaching hassle easier. While I'm not anti 4WD along that track it is disappointing seeing all the damage down by clowns in cars who think digging huge trenches is hilarious. I'm doing it on my bike next week, I'll try not to drown myself.....
The Track on a bike can be hard going depending how you're set up (ask me how i know). Lots of slappy sticks and some patches of (not so deep) sand. Enjoy your journey. Look out for crazy 4WDers
As a freedom loving nation, I don't understand your choice of politicians, Well, nice video!
freedom loving nation ? clearly you are not talking about Australia, there is no freedom in Australia, it left about 40 years ago and getting worse everyday.
Glad you enjoyed the Vid
Taking a heavily Leyden vehicle or a trailer in those conditions is stupid
Maybe...
Only if you don't drive it sensibly. It's actually "laden" !
Bogan, un subbed.
you're an idiot
This is Gold…I never saw this coming. Clearly the Channel doesn’t meet your expectations or standards. Good on you for taking a stance and having the courage to unsubscribe. That takes a lot of guts and determination. Good luck in your search for seeking out entertainment that meets your intellect. 😀😘
You do realise this is not an airport, so you don't have to announce your departure? No idea how you came to the conclusion he is a bogan, he stayed on the designated tracks and was careful and considered in his driving style so he didn't cause any damage. How on earth does that warrant your little outburst?
Done never again
Ok…but at least you did it. Thanks for watching.
Why do 4wd manufacturers build engines with alternators at the lowest point? 😱🙈🥊🥊🙏🦘
Probably wont fit anywhere else in the engine bay. Gotta be driven by a belt. Apparently sealed units are available for that Model (now i know why).
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Land Rover got it right with my Discovery 2. 👍🏻🙏🦘