Making The Best Forge Ribbon Burner!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ม.ค. 2020
- Building the best ribbon burner!! This Ribbon Burner helps to achieve an even heat in the forge. In this I will show how to build it.
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This is the first Venturi ribbon burner I've seen. I like it!
Hot stuff! 🔥
Well made burner. You have some really nice ideas. The taper burner head mould, the wax in the bottom to hold the crayons and your plenum design. Well done!
Thanks
I am impressed with how efficient your burner appears to run, especially without any forced air. I also like the taper in the refractory that you did. I noticed some builds where people have used plastic straws instead of crayons. Supposedly the straws are much easier to remove than having to drill out all the crayons. I am currently building myself a new forge and ribbon burner and I will definitely be borrowing some of your ideas. Thank you for taking the time to film and post this video it was very helpful and informative.
Erik Pettingill thankyou much appreciated
I would think you could easily melt the crayons out of it with a torch or just suspending it over a fire. But yes I love his design with the taper. lots of things to consider as I am thinking of designing my forge.
Tapering the casting is a brilliant idea.
Just a big thank you for this video and the forge video! I took most of the ideas you presented and built this ribbon burner and the forge. Works Great! I really appreciate the care and planning you put into your builds!
Thank you for watching it’s appreciated
At last, a practical ribbon burner design that I can actually build. Excellent presentation and build explanation. Many thanks.
Flytye thanks
Dude the taper was genius
Burning it up Rob! Very cool video.
The workshop is something else! Real smart guy too!
STEWART Linden thanks brother
I must say that I'm not quite sure what a ribbon burner is used for, but i appreciate the skill that went into creating it...
Wow, I can't believe how well that works without forced air
I've watched several builds for ribbon burners. This is the first venturi burner I've seen. Flawless work. You earned yourself a subscriber. I may try something like this build. Although mine will not be a clean as yours.
Thanks for watching and subscribing
wait so you're doing venturi ribbon and not forced air?
What kind of gas PSI do you use?
Good work as usual. We posted this video in our homemade tools forum this week :)
Thankyou
That’s a much better design than my two burner forge. Way better dispersion of the heat.
Never thought you could do a venturi-style ribbon burner and have to wonder about the efficiency compared to a blown burner. Still.... I'm glad I learned it's possible. Kudos to you for that tapered design, too. I've always wondered why people don't do that, but figured they must know something I don't. Kudos, again, for thinking for yourself! FYI - it'd save a ton of time making those air-regulating washers if you just buy the round disks from a fence supplier, or have a bunch laser-cut for your. I buy a ton of flat circles every year for similar tinkering needs and it's pretty economical compared to making them myself. The ones I get are .110" thick, plenty good enough to take a thread like you're using. That and some weld-on steel reducers would save a lot of your time/labor when it comes to doing the burner tube section.
Thanks for the idea never thought of using round disks from the fence supplier awesome
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You are a fantastic artist
Peter Grassel thankyou
Looking for good idea for a forced air, gas line in. Unfortunately I do not have a metal lathe so I have to by OTC parts.
I like how you work and even more how you explain what you do ! I will try the Ribbon Burner , greetings from Transylvania !!!
Thank you
I can't figure out why you're using a ribbon burner with a venturi...? Venturi need high flow and low "back-pressure" but ribbon burners add a lot of "back-pressure", which is why they normally use forced air...
As long as it works for you!
No blower?
Most have forced air. ( Well the only ones I've seen. )
Love your set-up as to make it sat in on angle for better fitting.
Thanks
Check out the new video it’s forced air and works even better
Yes!! This IS the best ribbon burner! Nice one, and thanks for a great video. I've been looking into a NARB burner, and this is the best video I've found. I really liked your forge build video too, but could I ask why you used a blower-driven burner in the video, rather than the naturally asprirated version? Thanks again, and all the best.
Sven Rasmussen thanks Sven 🙏
Sven Rasmussen i was supposed to show both models and do a comparison but just didn’t have time but i will in the coming weeks
Awesome work! 😃👍🏻👊🏻 ........👉🏻▶️👉🏻🔔
Don't ribbon burners usually have a fan or blower?
This one is normally aspirated but if you look at my other ribbon burner builds i have a blower type also i find it get hotter and is more efficient thanks
Oh nice a Toronto guys! Je te regarde de Québec t'es vidéo et tu as souvent été un mentor pour moi! 😅
That’s cool. Also your bad ass at making stuff. I wish I could just weld, haha
Takes practice man been welding professionally for 7 years now and it took time to learn especially tig, mig was quick and easy to pick up but tig too time and practice just keep practicing
The best ribbon burner out there! I'm curious on size of burner to size of furnace. I'm running an inside wall dimension of 7"x14" deep. Do you think this burner should be shrunk for the size of my furnace.
Thanks
Thanks yes i think it definitely will work i sell these also check out my video on converting a old forge to a ribbon burner forge thanks for watching
How efficient is this compared to a traditional Venturi burner?
its pretty comparable to Venturi efficiency
Nice burner build....but why is it naturally aspirated? What PSI were you running it at? Usually they are blown and I've never even considered that NA ribbon burners would be viable as it seems that the way NA/venturi burners work would be hindered by the restriction caused by the smaller orifices.
I mean if it works it works but ive never seen one before and i have my doubts on the efficiency. Thanks for the video
Apex Annihilator thanks I’ve made them both ways i like the NA because it doesn’t need any blower but the inlet tube and main tube needs to a lot bigger when doing this it still runs low psi and has good heat , everyone seems to have there mind set on blower motor is the only option when using a ribbon burner but it’s not the case , thanks for your comments 👍
@@BonifabcustomRobBonifacio thanks for the reply... I consider myself open minded as far as that goes assuming that it still performs well when installed in a forge
Where do you get and what do you call the refractory material that you make the burner out of?
Lee
The refractory i use is called Unicast 70 you can buy it online
Venturi ribbon burner...interesting. What PSI were you running your gas? Speaking strictly of gas efficiency, I'm wondering if this 'venturi ribbon' is more/less efficient than a 'standard' venturi or standard' forced air ribbon burner. (I suspect the forced air ribbon burner is still going to be more fuel efficient. I do like the idea of the taper on the ribbon burner housing!
Not sure of the psi but your right the forced air is more efficient as i mainly use them for my forges check out my other videos to see how they work thanks for watching
Hi rob, I have made a ribbon burner using your design, however i keep getting blow back (a loud pop then the flames start coming out the top) I’m not sure what I’ve done wrong, I think it might have something to do with how far down the tip is extended into the tube, or my gas pressure not being high enough, I’m a bit apprehensive to crank it up. Do you have any ideas?
Conner Kleister hi Conner make sure the jet is further in the tube so it forces the flame out the bottom
Cheers rob man, got it working a treat today and done my first bit of forging. Thanks you for been such a cool guy.
Conner Kleister great news , if you need any help don’t hesitate to message me thanks
Nice work on your forges. How can i purchase a burner? - Mike Saunders
Thanks Mike , if you want one email me
what psi does this run best at?
About 3-5 psi
Thank you for showing, good work, but the Peruvian hut is what it makes it, :):):):)
Thank you sir
Can you tell us the EXACT kind/brand of casting refractory you used here, please? I live in a small town so that must be ordered online, and I need it to be right. I tried to mix sodium silicate "water glass" with aluminum oxide grit, cured with CO2 and that failed to mold nicely. Then I tried to drill a firebrick with masonry and then glass bits - forget about it.
Beautiful job and perfect instructions - THANKS!
AerialLensVideo hi the refractory cement is called unicast-70 i get it from a supplier called smelco thanks for watching
@@BonifabcustomRobBonifacio THANK YOU! You are my hero for the today.
AerialLensVideo your welcome
Do you think that ribbon burner can be operated with oil/liquid fuels?
That’s a good question I’m not sure
@@BonifabcustomRobBonifacio it's a big challenge? Maybe?
Can this reach forge welding temperatures for mild steel?
Emerson Kluge yes i use it all the time
whats the minimum psi you have to run it at to achieve forging temps?
It changes as it heats up but lower than 5
@@BonifabcustomRobBonifacio thats awesome, thanks
Nice work! I think I’ll make one this afternoon
Thanks let me know if you need any help
this ribbon burner is weird like you, crazy how no forced air is needed and works completely fine with venturi...
😂thanks
Venturi ribbon burner.
Nope. No thank you.