Thrones of Britannia - a computer game that bothers with historical research!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ย. 2024
- I was tempted to a junket with the promise of food and castles and games, and I got to interview the head creator of a new game. Can you spot the typo in the end captions?
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Thrones of Britannia is of course not a history lesson, but a game. However, it is good to see that the creators have clothed the soldiers in period-appropriate clothing, and created the various factions that players can lead by basing them on feasible historical counterparts, albeit with a bit of massaging for the sake of game balance.
This video is not a paid-for advert. I was paid nothing, but was given an appreciated invitation to the event, and had free transport AND food. In this video you will find both criticism and praise for the game, as well as discussion of things that have nothing to do with the game.
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This video is not a paid-for advert. I was paid nothing, but was given an appreciated invitation to the event, and had free transport AND food. In this video you will find both criticism and praise for the game, as well as discussion of things that have nothing to do with the game.
Yes, there is a bad typo in the end-plate captions. One beige point to all those who spotted it.
Aw, I've lost count of all my Beige-points!
I could of smash you up bruv init but sadly i did not know
Review; Close Combat 2: A Bridge Too Far. Please, Mr. Beige! The computer gaming community needs to be reminded what a proper war-game is!
It should have been: ".., _whilst_ making this video..."
Anyway you shouldn't apologise to new viewers for the in jokes. They should have to struggle through all the quirks of your channel just as the rest of us had to.
You typed 'transport are food' at the end of your video. lol
A point about Medieval Gas-operated Torches
Time to change the torches again!
As soon as I saw them I though I had to make a joke about needing them to ignite the fire arrows but lindy made his own little yuk yuk at the end of the video.
is your picture skallgrim?
that GHG must account for the Medieval Warming Period.
PussPuss McKitten I cringed when he said it.
Lol as a marketing guy myself, I admire the bravery in inviting Lindybeige to such an event.
Time for an original joke.
Jacks clothes is where most of the budget went!
His suit cost three whole Charlemagnes.
that dude alone is the reason I am not playing this. good job :)
Sergio Vicente oi, not my fault, if you didn’t mean it was, which doesn’t seem to be the case I apologise.
Either way, don’t blame me, you chose not to buy the game because of him, I will though, it’d be quite un-British of me if I didn’t, it’d be very un-english of me if I didn’t, Hell, for all I know I could be part Dane Since some of my family is from Yorkshire and I think that’s close to land they took over...I should look that up.
Connor Quarmby the boots looked good!!
I wish the developers spend less money on the marketing and more fixing the game. I bet that background canvas costs one day of bug fixing. And who know how much work went to that Three kindoms trailer. And then on the launch day the game will be unplayable again and that will hurt their reputation and it wont sell well and then they will put more money in marketing so that more people would know their game and buy it and that is again time and money not spent on the actual product. Just make a damn good game and we will market it for you for free.
That banquet with game testing in an actual castle was nice idea tough. Very nice touch.
"my transport _are_ food were free."
Now I understand the focus on Jingles meal. He was eating your vehicle!
An influencer, huh? Are you the man that my parents warned me would try and peddle me drugs when I was younger?
"HEY KIDS, WANT SOME TANK SCHEMATICS?!"
Beige. Not even once!
He's become a fiend.
This is your brain on Lindy.
"I've got model kits in the van!"
OutOfNamesToChoose yes
They both look so happy to be speaking with you. James Given had a grin the entire time like he was so looking forward to getting you and Jack Lusted together to speak. Also, The Mighty Jingles! Yay!
Zukkor 7
"The Dark Ages is enjoying something of a Renaissance" - ha ha!
There was a Carolingian Renaissance in the 8th century, but I guess it doesn't count because French.
*German
Alcuin sees what you did there.
JINGLES! It finally happened!
M. Core Top Ten Anime Easter Eggs
THE MIGHTY JINGLES
M. Core it was only a matter of time till these Britons collided just add squireflyer and we’ve got a colonizing party
Mr Beige shits all over jingles, he is a jackanape while Lindy is indeed a dapper gent
TOP 10 ANIME CROSSOVERS OF ALL TIME
This is the real sort of advertisement I like to see. Perfectly cynical and genuine, bringing both the pros and cons to light.
Your transports are food????
Dude, tell me your secret!
Riding in on an ox? XD
I think some earlier armies did that, beasts of burden were also the rations for later in the campaign.
Wagon wheels
Who eats horses... and they had steak, so he probably rode on some beefy thing, a cow of some sort...?
Argh! How did I not notice that? Too late to put it right now.
I would be VERY interested to see Loyd look at Kingdom Come: Deliverance! Although he's more of a strategy bloke though, commanding people and such
It's been mentioned, on the FB page - my thought was that a video was going to be coming sooner or later.
Ah thanks for that tidbit! I'll be looking forward to it :)
He’ll get a video up as soon as he’s worked out lock-picking.
Stewart Price hahah yeah ;)
I'm not saying flaming arrows are legit, but in at least later TW games they are worse than normal arrows for doing damage, but can be used to set fires and do hurt morale more than regular ones. So, meh. They're fine by me.
I recently got ToB and noticed they can make horses panic too, but they have a slower reload rate and less damage.
Well flaming arrows aren't legit at least not as they are depicted (beside of course the fact that the fire is pulled out of there arse and can be switched on the move on command on a moment notice) But they weren't used in battle in the past beside maybe in sieges, as if you want your arrow still to be flaming or even be hot when it lands. It require a total redesign from the arrow which makes it way more expensive and more impractical in so many ways. With as only advantage the possibility to maybe light something on fire and well ever tried to light something on fire outside with just a ember to start and well not attendance in contrary people who would see it would do nothing or douse it. The only place this might have any advantage worth considering is in a siege with the possibility to start a city (or well castle,...)fire as that could get out of control which is of course in the attackers advantage mostly in taking the settlement on in the price of victory concerning the newly conquered real estate. And well cities and place where people would live would have some potential flammable materials thatch roofing comes to mind or just dry wood used for all the buildings in general.
But if you are interested in some good points watch Lindybeige video about it or well there might be some scientific research available online. In any case the point I actually wanted to make that in Rome I (and the tw titles onwards) you already have flaming arrows and they would also lower morale of the targeted unit(s) more so then normal arrows. Beside they were also less accurate and might be fired slower I don't recall beside these things are true for Rome I and MedII for the games onwards most still apply. In Rome I and MedII fire arrows also said to do more damage but I don't know whether that is true in any case in reality they would almost always miss. more with flaming arrow that even if every flaming arrow did more dmg enabling flaming arrow would always decrease the actual dmg delivered because of more misses. So the only reason to ever really use it was to push wavering enemies over the edge to breaking just that extra oomph and well for theatrical reasons of course.
Beside flaming can light buildings on fire in several of the later tw I think or maybe only raider units which threw torches I don't recall but you couldn't do that in Rome I and MedII (beside I never played Med I and Shogun I so I don't know about those games but I'm fairly sure you couldn't either) but you could with artillery level buildings or even start fires. And unlike all games after MedII that dmg would actually directly reflect on the campaign as well. As if you damaged the archery the archery building would be damaged accordingly whereas even if Atilla which together with Thrones of Britannia have some of the best sieges (actually (even arguably) the best after MedII) where you could burn almost the entirely of the city which would have consequences on the battlefield and where siege evolution was actually implemented quite well. (kinda like we dreamed after seeing the siege of Cartage Rome II pre-release footage. XD and even better is some ways). Afterwards the dmg would just be spread out over the entire (4 or 6) buildings in the settlement.
The loss in connection between battle map and campaign map is really what’s holding the newer games back from being so great as the mostly feel so shallow in comparison to those older titles and less historically or well mostly logical. Despite all their improvements in other places and I don't only mean graphics, but that disconnection and the loss of "sympathising" with your characters and how all seemed natural even though it was probably done simple the outcome would still feel more alive as it was kinda randomised but you saw where it come from or what the "odds where". And of course the incredible dumping down of the strategy aspect (from which the pinnacle is Thrones of Britannia) just limiting you options
In any case after going on a long rant about fire arrows an then about why the older total war titles still rival and surpass the newer titles to this day (18.04.2020) on this year old comment.
It way to long and un important (as well the probable readership is really small) for me to all reread and make sensible and correct in spelling and grammar so people who come this far (or just read the end) Have a nice day.
Its funny how much more interested Lindy is in the castle than the computer game they brought him there to hopefully help promote
It's sad that Rome Total War 1 from 2004 released 14 years ago has better unit collision/interaction and unit mass than this Thrones of Britannia Total War game released in 2018...
Can you please use you influence to make people pronounce lieutenant properly
Rightenant
Now it's too german, try again
I assumed Brits just called them "Guvnor Lefty" or something.
Davidtenant
Show me the f in lieutenant.
I see a Jingle
Crossover of the century
Jingle all the way
The Battle for Middle-Earth Series did cavalry well- they trample enemies, but can get bogged down. When they're bogged down, they're much more vulnerable.
the thing you think of when thinking berserker is a naked guy in a wolf hood running screaming into the enemy ranks. well thats not a berserker thats a ulfhedir. a berserker or in norse Bærserker, means the man who carries the serk or chifes/kings color. the berserker is a bodyguard a ulfhedin is a religius fanatic.
Proffessional Supreme Stabman.
yeah usualy that was the case, but not always as honor was praised amongst the norsemen
They also tend to attack your own men as shown in Mount and Blade Warband Viking Conquest
He did a whole video about the misconceptions regarding Berserkers.
i know
hahahahahahahaha, I was laughing so hard at the developer's face when Lloyd starting going in on him about beserkers.
"My transport are food were free." /Lindybeige 2018 :-D
Your video on berserks was the first video i saw of you. It has been a hell of a ride thank you for everything.
Probably the one note I'd make is about cavalry - going by medieval 2 anyway. Sending your cavalry in as light infantry is really dumb. They are fast, and they have a charge bonus with good reach. So what they're really good at is getting around the flanks, then hitting units in the rear hard, and then running away to prepare the next charge.
There are two reasons not to just let them stand around and hack. One is that you lose their two main assets - speed and charge bonus. Kinda dumb.
But perhaps as important: if the enemy squad starts to panic, they will decide they're surrounded and figure they might as well try to hack themselves out of it. No no no. Leave them alone, let them run away like a good sport.
Then send your cavalry after them. We shall not allow you to complete your French approach!
Flanking with cavalry? you are a genius
I always suspected Lindy was one of the taskmasters in the Jingles salt mines... ;)
"a freak sitting still accident"? How would one act so as to prevent such a thing? Move?
Gawdamit
Ah hah!
Didn't Elvis have a freak sitting still accident on the toilet though?
Thomas Lockyer
I'm not sure a heart attack qualifies as an accident. Might get away with "incident" which sounds similar.
Well, I hope he didn't do it on purpose.
Jim Fortune
Eh, close enough.
Two of the things I like meet in one Video, Lindy and a Total War Game
Jingles & Lindy in the same video?
More of this!
More of this!
More...
I'm still waiting on your Time Commanders video to be released Lindy, it's been years!
12:33 Good to know you enjoyed the paid ride on a giant loaf of historically accurate bread to get to the event :P
Every frenchmans nightmare....Lindybeige and Mighty Jingles in the same upload...rule britannia.
Caius Martius And Jack Lusted.
It's fine.
12:34 so, what kind of food did you ride there, Lloyd?
A cow.
Nice to see you visit somewhere local to me (the castles only about 5 miles down the road) and very refreshing to see you cover a video game.
Oh yeah that castle. That is beige.
Berserkers, fire arrows, and buggy AI which they totally gonna fix(they wont). All in a day's work for total war, sigh. At least sieges are back, yay.
Sebatinsky yeah but they took out town battles which makes me sad.
Where did the sieges go?
HungrigerHugo89 they removed town battles in war hammer and made the city drives very dumbed by making them all only attackable from one side. From what I've seen its the same in Britannia. Town battles are always the most interesting
rajesh koothrappali What footage have you been looking at? They are bringing back town battles in this game. Watch pixellated apollo.
The Painkiller towns, not cities. We know towns are indefensible with no garrisons. If you have an army on a town and you are attacked, they act like it's a field battle.
Nice, I liked the shots of the castle; the arch, the loo, the scars on the outer wall.
A messenger system could be pretty cool for battle simulations.
Whenever you issue a command, a rider detaches from your general to go to the unit you want to command, and they don't react until the rider arrives. What will they do when they have no command? How fast and accurately will they react? Depends on the individual unit's discipline and the skill of their commander.
Still waiting for Pommel Simulator 2018
Literally the most badass setting to play an historically based game. Ever.
Your transport are food?
And your base are belong to us?
SangoProductions213 hahahaha I thought of this phrase as well
lindybeige and themightyjingles in one vid? what have i done to deserve this treat
LOYD. HELLO! I WORK IN THE GAMES INDUSTRY. I watch your videos avidly and love them! I work on a fantasy MMORPG called Shroud of the Avatar by Richard Garriot. Your videos are a huge source of inspiration and reference for my work and I can tell you that because of them I do my best to work in historical accuracy where I can. Because of your channel I know how gambesons, and cuirasses and pennacular broaches work! And I can make them look a bit more authentic in our game. Our game does lean more on the fantasy rather than realistic medieval side so some outfits and weapons are more realistic and others.....not so much. But I just wanted you to know that someone in games pays attention to details that they learn about from your videos!
How about you do some _real_ research?
To be honest, the best cavalry gameplay I have ever experienced was in the sadly forgotted but rather fantastic RTS, Battle for Middle Earth. The original, not the second. Like in Total War, units are controlled in units of 5 or hordes of 10, and archers or pikemen can be phalanxed with infantry. Cavalry can charge through enemy formations, knocking enemy units over and dealing damage while taking some damage in return. Pikemen inflict heavy damage and when placed in their braced formation, do severe damage to cavalry while resisting knockdown. Therefore pike-archer phalanxes could cooperatively resist cavalry attack from the front.
Nothing very fancy about it, the game as a whole was abandoned by EA but remains one of the fondest games to my memory. The batallion mechanics were fantastic, with elite batallions being able to recoup lost units, and orcs being able to cannabalise other friendly orcs for experience. Also very nice faction-based hero units and special abilities based on the LotR saga. Natural counter-tactics like using Gandalf to kill Nazgul and support infantry with AoE attacks, Theoden to active a Glorious Charge which granted a short buff to nearby cavalry allow them to charge enemy units with increased damage and survivability, Gollum or the Hobbits as scouts with natural stealth or Elven Cloaking, using the Eye of Sauron to reveal them, using Lurtz to pin enemy heroes for assassinations.
Those mechanics lead to a rich community custom map scene with 'Hero Arena' type scenarios where individual heroes were chosen to fight waves of increasingly deadly attackers, and Circus Maximus maps, which were fought in a large central arena with each player controlling an isolated base where the position of a few 'controller' units were basically used as control panels to select what units would spawn in the centre.
Ahh, I miss that game.
I am so excited for this, I’ve been on Atilla for too long
Your Atilla are transport?
Never thought I'd see The Mighty Jingles in one of Lindys' videos if it wasn't about a meet up about tanks..... You should do that, you should definately meet up and talk about tanks and ships with Jingles, it would be top knotch banter.
The best Total War is Rome - Total War! Would love to see Lindybeige make a video on that one
🤣 Rome: Total War is basically fantasy
@jocaguz18 Europa Barbarorum is better but still nowhere near Rome II because technical limitations
@jocaguz18 Weirdly enough, I had two people play a sandbox campaign as Rome, and in both cases the course of events followed actual history so closely it was surreal. Neither of those two people ever bothered reading anything about actual Roman history.
@jocaguz18
300: 300 guys vs. a million
What actually happened: about 4000 people vs. about 15000
300: naked Spartans
What actually happened: Spartans were the heaviest-equipped soldiers in Greece
300: Spartans run around with short swords chopping everyone up
What actually happened: Spartans hold spear line
300: ‘white’ Greeks vs. ‘black’ Persians
What actually happened: Persians literally call themselves ‘Iran’ to this day and look correspondingly; Greeks not so much
300: ‘free people’ vs. slavery
What actually happened: slavery was the core of Spartan economy while the Achaemenid Empire didn’t even recognise the concept of ‘slavery’
- That’s off the top of my head
@jocaguz18 If you are comparing Medieval II to 300, fine. If you are comparing Rome II to 300, I will spare me some neurons and move right along.
Good old Castle Heddingham - been there a number of times. Last time was a summertime event...quite nice to see it in snow covered.
But can you buy an upgrade to a unit that allows pommel-unscrewing?
This game, for what its worth, is really fun to play with your friends. I think ive had my most memorable total war experience in a siege battle against a friend while I was playing the Welsh.
"I wasn't paid money to make this video, but my transport are food were free" Hmm... Something stands out like stirrups on a Roman general's saddle here.
As someone who has played a fair number of Total War games, I can attest that they allow for a more realistic representation of cavalry than the one described in the video. It's entirely possible to have them do a cycle of charge, kill enemies, withdraw, regroup, charge again, rinse and repeat until enemy breaks. It's just that you, the player, need to make them do so by giving the orders to withdraw, followed by a new order to charge. Also, since the game simulates every soldier individually, some of your guys might not be able to ride out of the enemy formation on the withdrawal, but instead end up left behind and overwhelmed by the enemy infantry.
Ok c.a. we get it, you have money to have these events. What's the catch more bugs, or less features? Who am i kidding it might be both. I'm not pre-ordering after rome 2 sorry it just isn't happening.
Rome II is probably the best game in the series dude
@@jusscytha866 shogun 2, medieval 2 and warhammer fans would greatly disagree.
@@benuyttebroeck1956 Shogun 2 features a single culture across 3 islands, Medieval II is basically fantasy, and Warhammer is literally fantasy and more of a Warhammer-gone-digital game than a Total War game. Rome II, on the other hand, features like ten different cultures, stretches from the Atlantic to India and from Britain to Ethiopia, covers many cool historical settings, and gets most of the history in those settings right.
It's great they seem to be doing their research and inviting the criticism of experts where they can.
EUROPA UNIVERSALIS
Crusader Kings.
Empire: Total War
Lemmings?
My lord... That would be amazing!
Crusader Kings II?
A lindybeige video about total war? How delightful.
I really, from my own ignorance, can't belive people don't see a chance that a warrior culture would breed such practice as narrated in the mythos, North Americans have done it for decades now, I really don't see how it seems so far fetched to scholars that "Warriors" sometimes go to war on heavy drugs
EDIT: I'm watching your video about the topic atm, give me some time to learn
For the best game-depiction of the berserker phenomena, I nominate the Close Combat series - a squad-based WWII game featuring a platoon scaled, bird’s eye view of the battlefield.
Like the Total War series, morale was a key factor in Close Combat. When it flagged, due to stress and fatigue, soldiers tended to either route, or else curl up in a fetal position for the remainder of battle - but every once in a blue moon someone went berserk with a distinctively furious, mind-snapping howl and charged headlong at the enemy. This had the effect of rallying demoralized friends and panicking previously aggressive enemies and, while the soldier turned berserker often did not survive such recklessness, the ripple effect of his heroics was often enough to salvage an otherwise hopeless situation and save the day.
The key factors are 1.) - there are no berserker troop types; it can happen to anyone, and 2.) it happens only under extreme duress and then, very rarely.
Oh, hey Jingles! Why'd you call him "mighty" tho, it's a description, not his names.
We're on first name terms.
Ah, makes sense, his subscribers all call him Jingles as a sign of respect, I see.
As someone who has worked in PR and influencer teams at Ubisoft, it's quite funny to see how you portray their preview event, they were probably not quite ready for that.
1. Lindy? Kindgom Come: Deliverance?
2. Jingles?! What does he do in Lindy´s videos?!
Lindy and Jingles... I would love to see the two of them do more stuff together XD
I have watched your video on fire-arrows but I was wondering how Norse raiders set ships alight during funerals. The films show the boat out to water and someone shooting a flaming arrow so it all burns up. Could you confirm this (or not) for me Lindy?
Rather easy to make your own ship light on fire if you make it purposefully flammable.
Kingdom of the Saints I was puzzeled by how the arrow stayed alight in its flight to the funeral boat and then when it got the boat. I was under the impression (and still am) that it would be very hard to burn the boat with an arrow. It just didn't seem a very reliable way.
Longer, heavier arrow with a lot of metalwork on the tip, maybe a lower poundage bow than a warbow, shooting at a relatively immobile target on a windless day, shooting at a target which was made purposefully flammable. Pretty feasible. Can't say if it's historical though. It doesn't need to be effective at damaging the object either because it'll just stick to the wood and burn away, and the only way it can be snuffed out is if the recently deceased king suddenly springs back to life on his funeral boat and decides he has a will to remain un-carbonized.
Snood Light the ship on fire before you send it out to sea. Whole arrow business seems overly complicated.
That makes a lot of sense but I just want to completely clear up whether the Norse did light the ships on fire with an arrow or whether that is just another Hollywood myth.
One note, Lindy. The cavalry is more accurate to their role when you micro-manage them. You're intended to have them charge in, then manually pull them out for repeated charges, and chasing down routing units that may return to the field.
This video aged badly... that game sold horribly lol
So happy to see ya moving up in the world lindy
Nostalgia just from hearing the phrase "computer game"
Generally the Total War games are pretty good at keeping mostly historically accurate, while also changing things up to make it more entertaining. The cavalry coming to a stop and fighting is unfortunate, but generally you don't want to keep them engage, you want to do what's called, cycle charging. So you charge in, get that big hit with the charge bonus, then run back out, and slam in again, and repeat. Cavalry get a huge bonus on a charge, and it does a ton of damage to morale, so having infantry hold them in place while the cav cycle charge them in the rear will very quickly break all but the most elite infantry.
The "Dark" Ages were so named because we had very few historical information that survived from those times, as compared to other ages, like classical or even antiquity. So the name is not in reference to a lack of civilization, but rather to an obscure/unknown period in terms of historic accounts. This is also the times when the church was deliverately keeping people in the dark and purging all knowledge that survived from the Roman empire. They hoarded ancient texts and destroyed those which they found heretic. Thanks a lot, Christian church...
For food, drink and glory! Also a bit of transportation and jingles ^^
Jingles !
Lindybeige and TheMightyJingles just spending a day together would make for a great video.
There is an error with your ending cards. I think you meant to say "my transport *was* food *where* free". You can thank me later.
*were ;P
Went there in the summer. Excellent location in general. Lovely ancient wood surrounding it.
yes unfortunately i think you have gotten to the point where you critiquing and knowledge has overtaken your ability to enjoy such things. Obviously you will never have a battle simulator such as this being even 70% accurate because that would take VASTS amount of computing power plus real battles would simply be too boring.
It wouldn't actually be much of a stress on computing power considering today's technology and if you take a look at Mount and Blade Bannerlord, it actually has cavalry charging through and knocking over infantry. We're already progressing to a point in which we have to consider the reality in which super intelligent AI take over our world and kill us all, in all honesty making a game that is realistic isn't that hard - I just don't think they really want to do it. Most studios don't want to take that leap of faith, they'd rather just make an average / okay experience that guarantees they'll make a profit as opposed to taking genuine risks.
Realism also isn't really that boring, we think it is because it sounds like a lot of work and complexity scares us but it's not when you do it right. A sword swing is always going to be very simple when it comes down to the execution, you just have a choice as to whether it's a realistic swing or unrealistic one.
its different with TW because M&B only has a few hundred entities with rather poor graphics. TW can have thousands of units. I never said realism is boring, if TW was 100% accurate in regards to how everything actually worked (except for the running away because a lot of battles in that era wouldnt have ended in everyone being wiped out ALL of the time) then it would be fantastic. i wish it were like that where you could zoom in and you could see people actually properly fighting exactly how they would have fought with a more diverse range of tactics (like the old roman switcheroo) but
1) peoples computers aint as powerful as what one would hope for
2) the more in the game, the more likely it is to go wrong in the coding (which is the great thing about the steam workshop as others can edit it with fresh eyes and make really nice improvements)
3) time spent making the game is limited by their funding unless
4) the game becomes massively expensive
what my point about the battles being "too boring" is back to the "everyone will kind of jab at everyone else from a distance and then about 80% of the people would run away" aspect. they have to make it fast paced otherwise a lot of the people this game is aimed at will lose interest
Realism isn't always about copying aspects about the real world, sometimes it means embracing the fantasy, but it mostly revolves around an attention to detail similar to that of anything that is real. It means at least to me, that you are attempting to create a world and not a game, that you go into a level of detail that is enough to create the illusion that the game is real. You can have a game about dragons, elves and magic that is realistic to the rules of that world, the point is you create expectations and reality, but then you uphold them. You focus in on the tiniest aspects and ensure that everything has a reason for existing. It can be difficult to understand for some people, but these guys are supposed to be industry veterans, they spend their whole lives doing this one thing and for them, creating satisfying cavalry shouldn't be this difficult.
Humans do really incredible stuff every day, the fact that most people in the games industry seem to uphold this belief that they are limited in what they can accomplish is an insult to that. Find some evidence to prove that they can't do better, that they in fact set out to make the best game they possibly could. When you do that, I will be open to believing in the idea that they didn't settle.
i understand the principle you are talking about and i agree, that should be the aim BUT again, you have to remember they are still driven by money and they need to hit a wide target audience to get all that money and if they make the game increeeeeeeedibly detailed in even the smallest of aspects, it will require too much power for the general computer to handle. Yeah it would be great for people like ourselves who presumably have more powerful PCs than most but they still have to think about the money. Everyone wants games to be tailored to them but sadly the reality is, games industry cannot do that, not just yet. I mean my ideal game would allow me to slip on a helmet and be in a fully immersive game where i can actually fight other people in the ages of swords and shields and spears and so forth and actually *FEEL* the enemy block my weapon and so forth but there is a limit.
There are no limits and also it's called Kingdom Come : Deliverance.
Watch this video on VR games; th-cam.com/video/qwcHnG8EDTw/w-d-xo.html
Now understand that there are still people alive who once looked at computers and complained how they were too big to fit into their garage. Then tell me there's a limit, there is not.
i love the way you describe the game, its rather entertaining, not knowing what your talking about, its rather good
Fire arrows!!
BERSERKERS!
BERSERKERS SHOOTING FIRE ARROWS!!!
I'm an American with a long English and Scottish ancestry(My last name is Overcash, after all). So this game shows me a little bit about how my ancient ancestors fought in battle. Very interesting stuff!
I am keen for this game
I rebuke my statement, fire arrows
And it's an Atilla reskin
At the word 'beserker' I expected Lindy to say a curt farewell and walk out.
Historical research? That's racist! There need to be more black people in this game.
My favorite part of Thrones is finding that my 'zerkers are unavailable for group priorities because their bloodlust has driven them to run down and beat the piss from some hapless Ceorl Spearmen who simply wanted to escape the battle unharmed and go back to their farms and families. Zerkers gonna zerk. There is also a point in the tech tree at which archers change from idiots armed with curved stick strung with a bit of twine into modern field artillery. Suddenly every battle against Gwined is recap of all the early Rolls Royce jet engine names.
Dunno if i'm reading this right, but this interview looks like a kind of "i told you so"/revenge type deal.
The lead in the middle is sh%ting himself and is really nervous. Either his nerves stem from intimidation due to possibly showing a lack of knowledge or his sacrificing historical integrity for popular opinions to increase sales...i'm guessing a bit of both.
Also the way the guy on the left is smiling the whole time i get the feeling there was some heated internal debate of some things and lead pulled rank probably telling everyone they were wrong and knew nothing. Guy on left then gets to arrange this event and called in this lindybeige person to "advertise" while covertly wanting him to call BS on leads decisions.
Then again maybe i just been up too late :)
That sounds like a plausible explanation for why he was so uncomfortable, I got the notion that they chose to make a simple cookie cutter because they understood that pandering to casual gamers is more profitable than creating stuff for a niche market. Not many people are interested or even aware in more specialized games outside of cult classics like Fallout 1 and STALKER.
Basically they are making a cheeseburger instead of a thai curry because they know just about everyone will eat a cheeseburger, but not everyone will have the curry. But it also means that it's just a cheeseburger and you can get those pretty much anywhere.
Jack really seems to respect Lloyd, and I'd chalk his apparent nervousness up to nerves from meeting someone he's expecting to rip him for not putting historical simulation ahead of compelling gameplay in all situations as well as not being amazingly good at interviews, being a game developer and not an interviewer or public speaker.
TO THE "INFLUENCER TEAM" - I'm a big fan of Total War, but I had no idea this was coming out. Watching the man who is so masterful at history try to right click to attack made me feel less ignorant on this channel for once. Game is now on my Steam Wishlist and I will be following reviews. If it's not broken on launch I'm purchasing!
The lad named "Jack" made me cringe a little bit tbh. "I am at the top of the tree, i take all the big decisions, i am the lead dev." Ok big shot, mom would be proud.
Endless possibilities yeah, watch some interviews of his from some years ago, then compare to today...his change in cloathing says it all, really
I skipped the whole interview lol
To be fair that's an accurate description of his job title as the games director, didn't notice anything especially pretentious in what he was saying then.
Made me instantaneously dislike him. Maybe he got bullied in the past and needed to "prove" something.
Dutch Defense or maybe because that’s his fucking job?
I like that you make it clear that it was a promotional event. And I like that you were critical.
This makes it worth watching. Even if I wouldn't trust you with a unit of three men after seeing that. :P
What a shameful display!
shamefur Dispray I think you mean.
@@bigolbearthejammydodger6527 is it from shogun 2?
Take a gander at Lloyd's garments at 2:15
Now THAT is beige!
Kingdom come deliverance did a pretty good job on most things but not all like the clothing
Kingdom Come is 10/10, best cloistered medieval monk role-playing game I've experienced
I hated that questline because i didn't get the book with the daily schedule on the first attempt
I had several bugs. They were even so bad that I had to reload old saves. I played through it and almost all side quests and that's maybe 130 hours. 15h of those were just replaying stuff because the game crashed.
I didn't have any issues with crashing just things like invisible buildings and whatnot because things wern't rendering
i mostly just have glitching stairs/ doors & npc's ....
Nothing better than watching Lloyd play as Cymru. Can't wait to pelt some Saxons with arrows.
As an Anglosaxon myself, I say boo!
(I did live in Wales myself for the first portion of my existence, so I hold no real grudge ;P (both of our countries are beautiful and have amazing cultures and history))
I look forward to kicking your Saxon ass (Nothing personal, butt)
You're welcome to try! So long as we stay out of the valleys, then we're pretty safe XD (til the Danes attack us in the rear)
a game that does historical research?
smh this is gonna be a completely racist and problematic game omfg I'm gonna sue the devs reeeeee
I want to see a colab with jingles! Jingles + Lindybeige = EPIC! :D
Make it a DLC for Attila, not a full game..
Stavros it really should be.
They made Age of Charlemagne a DLC for Attila and it sold pretty well so I guess they figured AoC should have been a standalone and now they made this one that way
Well it's not full price, it's like 40 quid or something, so in a way it's like halfway between a full game and a dlc?
Thrones of Britannia is a standalone game, based on the Attila engine, yet with countless changes
$40 is the 2018s full price. No one pays more than that. Maybe if you really wanted to play far cry 5, but that guy is a sucker for more than one reason
11:46 holy cow. Behind Jingles is a 2 dollar Halloween costume helmet from last year. Don't try wearing it, it's plastic and incredibly brittle. Mine broke in half the first time I went to put it on!
I love Total War! One of the only games realistic enough for me to play.
Total war.. realistic.. wait what?
When a giant clubs a group of dwarfs i feel like the distance they are launched on impact feels real, you know?
Nothing unmodded from those hallowed halls are realistic. But they're 'realistic' enough...
I'm not talking about Warhammer, obviously. I've been playing the game since Medieval 1 and, though it's true that the game was never perfect and the realism decreased since Rome II (I actually regret paying for that game), is there anything better, out there? Is there even something similar? If you know of any game that is more realistic than Total War, I would really appreciate you telling me.
Gosling Can you name some mods that improve on realism, please?
This game wasnt really that good when it released, but now, after a lot of fixes, its actually quite good! I recommend it to everyone that takes interest in the era it represents.
CA desperate to promote their rubbish. Mount & Blade Viking Conquest probably FAR Better . and only costs $5
Looks like CA are roping in ALL strategy game related video producers .. and boy, looks like they all sold out $$$$$$, Hope someone does a comparison of M&B : VC and this. And yes, Bannerlords will wipe the floor with anything CA or anyone else can produce. .. waiting .... waiting ... getting old .. still waiting ..
Han Lockhart be kind, he's not into video games. I'm sure he was excited to be invited, and he had more to say about the architecture than the game.. that said. I would love to hear Lloyd tear into all the things the game gets so horribly wrong. Starting with fire arrows. ;)
M&B is not comparable to this game. They belong to a completely different genre of games. It's like saying Battlefield 3 is better than Wargame: Red Dragon.
It takes a particular upper tier nerd to appreciate the total war series. When one does however, you may get small glimpses of real historic battle tactics. They are my favorite and i own the entire collection. If i were king i would commission "The Wheel of Time , Total War."
All this is just a way for them to cater to people like you so you spread the word, please don't be fooled, this company is total bollocks. They've been scraping together the exact same game over and over again under a different coat of paint every couple of years for their last 5 installments. Their whole company philosophy revolves around tricking their audience to buy into the newer titles so they can sell them the dlc package of unlocking the blood and what ever while the consumer is "hyped" hoping the additions would actually make the game into what they were led to believe it would be.
They never innovate or fix anything, the game is a scam. They don't actually work on it, they spend all their money filming videos of themselves pretending to work on it and put them on youtube, I'm not joking. Bunch of jack asses the whole lot. I really hate these guys and I'm very concerned that they will keep this attitude until we stop talking about it and the children of tomorrow will get pulled into this trap.
acca It’s a franchise, of course the game is similar…
acca I agree with you but am actually looking forward to this game. Thats because of the heir system. After reading Cornwell the politcs of this period to me are fascinating
they do the same in games like far cry too. reskin and make new maps. And everyone is aware of what they are buying else it would not been successful. try to make a game yourself and you would notice that bugs cant be gone just cause you snap your fingers.
Yet thousands of people buy there games and enjoy them for 100’s of hours. Call of Duty is the same price and it has a 6 hour campaign and almost exactly the same multiplayer every year.
If you don’t like Total War, don’t buy it.
Please don't try injecting your own faulty opinion as fact and trick Lindy into believing you.
2:05 This literally made my day, I've been wishing somebody would put you two together since like forever! xD Now if you would only sit down and watch the Mr. Plinkett (i.e. RedLetterMedia) analysis of the Star Wars prequels together, my life would be complete.
>shilling this hard
I got the game 2 days ago. Those poppies did not get changed. It stuck in my mind how big they were when I first seen them. Thus my comment.