LoTR: Gollum is a masterpiece
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Still impressed how he softlocked the game seconds after getting control.
That's not even just a Vinny thing, that's a this game as a whole thing.
never underestimate Vinny's ability to break games (and how broken AAA games are these days).
Vinny’s passive is already strong. But it’s power is amplified 10 fold by an unfinished AAA game.
He even lent his passive to charlie who crashed on the title screen before even making an input
Hardlocked
It’s so funny that the devs themselves were like “Turn off his hair or the game will break”
Lmao yeah, if it’s that broken they should’ve turned it off themselves before shipping.
Wtf did they even hire playtesters??? These game directors and publishers are becoming more and more brainrotted as the years go by...
@@TheSanndwichh it's not the devs' fault. It's the higher ups at the studio that rushed them into making this.
@@TheRegularHedgehog575 they could’ve patched the game to have the hair physics default to off at any time though
@@TheSanndwichh with the hellish crunch time game studios give their developers, they probably couldn't do anything they actually needed to do.
Objectives
-Passive the game into softlocking.
-(Optional) Do a better Gollum impression than the game’s VA.
-Laugh uncontrollably at the game 20 times: (17/20).
In all honesty, with Gollum impression do you mean Andy Serkis impression? Because it's not like... obligatory for Gollum to sound like that. I welcome some variety.
@@AlfonsoSRT yeah that’s fine and all but all I hear when I hear this Gollum is 2-D
Was 17/20 confirmed here?
@@crazyluigi6664 I was counting my own stats for that one
@@AlfonsoSRT I get you. But tbh it sounds like a dollar store Andy Serkis. Like, evoking his Gollum but not enough to get sued. Same with the character design, it's practically the same with slight differences.
this feels like a modern reskinning of an obscure PS2 game
Even obscure PS2 games play absolute ballers than this shit.
it probably was
Gollum literally looked better in the Return of the King PS2 game that's like 20 years old now
I think they may have been drunk when they got the idea and started making the game.
That's because our generations born after 1980 are just extraordinary shitty at developing games, we have to admit it. Compare the new games to the 1996-2010 era where most developers were born around 1975, they simply were insanely better at it. Just take Rare or Nintendo back around 2000, I would guess our millenial and gen z generations are way dumber than we think to be lol
The game itself is the perfect representation of gollum. Broken, ugly, greedy and pitiful
"Forlorn, ruinous, Utterly wretched."
@@dustinjones7458 For some reason my brain read this line in the voice of the narrator of Darkest Dungeon
@@dustinjones7458 read this in the voice of the tspud narrator omg
I feel kinda bad for the guy now
its kind of similar to Scorn being a pain simulator
Regarding the font, I love that the game does the exact opposite of best practices - uses generic font for huge easily readable text, but uses a weird stylized cursive for subtitles.
I’m actually convinced the game was made by Gollum himself, no sane director or game dev would think that this game was good for release except for him
Was I out of the loop on this game or did it just have no marketing? Like when this game released I thought it was simply the release of the first trailer but no it just came out. Who wanted a gollum game?
@@kayden2119 Jerma.
@@kayden2119 The publishers for this game usually do niche indie games, tl;dr they suck and I do not know why they chose daedelic
i doubt the director or game dev chose when it would be released, to be fair
And yet Vinny does a better Gollum impression than the irl Gollum that chose the in-game voice.
07:15 Gollum sneering and looking around for his Precious only to get suddenly trampled by an old man while the look on his face changes to that of extreme violated confusion and fear is pure gold.
and the fact that he seems looking at us, calling for help or asking himself if this game is serious... is even more awsome i died laughing
The complete lack of gorm on his face
the hair flick is such a good conclusion to the bit
This is like if they made a pulp fiction game and you play the guy who eats the burger and gets exploded
royale with cheeeeeese
I'd put it up there with the Totally Angelica games from the Rugrats series. I had the PC game as a kid from a pack of girl-aimed games, and it was the only one I never played, and I assume the reason was that it was about Angelica, who I didn't like.
and it ends with the two hitmen busting in and killing you
-Fill Dead ***** Storage (2/5)
I think the Gollum character has potential.
That Gollum/Smeagol impression starting at 14:34 is honestly really impressive. Vinny really did a better job than the game.
Vinny really was outing himself as the actual Gollum
@@kirbyofthestarsfannow we have to kill him
@@kirbyofthestarsfan this is just vinny vs vdub
@@blackcat2333 LMAO
6:36 What about this one ? 😅
This was one of Jerma's most anticipated games of the year. He hyped it up on stream and talked about how awesome it would be to just be Gollum doing Gollum things for a game. Jerma, who famously abhors stealth due to his gigaAHDH streamer rotted brain, even knowing it was classified as a "stealth" game was so ready to play this day one before he left to do the live action skit stuff. So if you need to ask yourself "Who the hell actually wanted this game?", you have at least one answer.
I want to see him play
I thought jerma was doing a bit when he mentioned this game
I genuinely didn't think it was real
@@BiFurDoggy Jerma always chooses the weirdest hill to die on when it comes to something he likes. I can definitely see him vehemently defending a Gollum simulation game.
Jerma is a mindless consomer
absolute psycho streamer
“Restrict blood flow to Gollum’s throat” is definitely a vinesauce favorite from this year
I just wish he had managed to make it to the part where an orc says "Gollum. Breeding Halls. Now!"
the what now
😳😳😳
That is almost certainly made up, but I kinda what to see an edited playthtough where someone has taken all the funny bits out. I couldn't slog through a full playthrough myself.
@@brycedolishny4138 I think the breeding halls is for breeding birds. There is a part of the game where you go to a bird breeding room and have to hatch a bird.
It's one of those rare things that is as strange *in* context as it is out of context. If you're familiar with the works of Tolkien and the character of Gollum in geberal, the events of the Breeding Chamber just go against everything it stands for.
3:08 ~ 14:33
The voice acting struggles to sound like Smeagol/Gollum with scripted and paid one-liners, but Vinny can nail a whole improv conversation between the two characters on the fly. We are blessed to have Vinny.
The game does not have the copyrights to the movie voice. It's on purpose.
@GusM60Patton I mean, the Peter Jackon movies are just adaptations of the original novels, it's clear that this game isn't meant to be a tie-in to those, hence why no one looks or sounds like they did in the movies.
Is this the fastest a full stream has been turned into a highlight video? Holy cow
That’s how you know the stream was legendary
Even faster than TOTK! That means gollum > zelda right?
@@rusduderus
Clearly
The irony is that more effort probably went into these highlights during the days since he streamed it, than the entire development cycle of the game upon which it’s based.
gotta chase those fotm views
(Im still salty we didnt get terraria pt 2 like we were promised)
I just wanted to point out that at 17:30, you do manage to restrict blood flow to Gollum's™ throat. Objective complete!
The basic typeface is always the biggest slap in the face for me. That was the one visual change that needed barely any effort, and they couldn’t even bother
Honestly I think the infamous alpha screenshot looks BETTER than the final product, definitely had more style and better font choice.
The standard button promts are even funnier imo. Like year, I know why those exist, i think the guy who made them is cool, i know that they're important. But for a triple a game like this, and to clash so heavily...
Honestly if I worked on this game I wouldn’t bother either
They couldnt afford the copyright for Tolkiens fonts because they blew the entire budget on gollums hair simulator
budget budget budget budget covid budget covid.
there's your reason
the way Gollum flops over like an electrocuted rat when he dies destroys me
For anyone that hasn’t seen the VOD on Fullsauce, I’d highly recommend it. This is a modern classic Vinesauce stream.
Yeah I'm not normally one for unedited footage, but this was pretty fucking great.
Disappointed that we didn't hear Barnesyarns mention dragging gollum by his cockring on a two mile long chain to Mount Doom though
No.
@Bessux why not?
It was fucking great
Vinny loses his sanity fast in that, and for the best.
I think it’s worth noting this game was made by a developer who had mostly done point-and-click games before this
Oh god
Why didn’t they just a point and click adventure with Gollum?!?!
@@dimitriwarchief301 Afaik because they have had trouble selling copies of their point and click adventures. They're popular games with many fans, so that is not the issue, but someone who has seen a playthrough of a point and click will probably not be interested in buying the game themselves since they already know the story and you don't play these games for gameplay. According to the official statement I read, this is the reason of the sudden genre switch. And sadly it may also be the underlying reason for the underfunding that creates bad games like this.
this game is the first ever instance of a "gollum-like"
(and last)
A gollum-type game if you will
@@artvandelay3298We can only hope so
No, Lester the Unlikely was the first.
Lol
I'd pay 60 for the behind-the-scenes making of this game. I want to see those meetings and what this looked like when they delayed it 2 years ago.
I know it isn’t the hardest voice to do but Vinny’s Gollum voice is spot on
Vinny doing his Gollum impression from 14:32 to 15:15 was more entertaining than anything shown in the game
YOU CAN BEATS IT IN NINETY MINUTESES
Vin could do his worst bits on repeat ad nauseam and would still be more entertaining than this filth
thx
For those of you playing along at home, the softlock happened literally 10 seconds into the game.
Vinny's passive is too OP
@@nam6128 Not quite sure this one counts as Vinny's passive when a light breeze could cause the game to collapse in on itself anyway.
@@TheBrianJ It's like when I played Saints Row IV. The game hard locked on the first mission.
@@MrWolfSnackMrWolfSnack's forming his own passive (笑)
It's pretty insane that a 2014 game like Shadow of Mordor not only looks better, but also has a better portrayal of Gollum than his own game.
Monolith had a far larger budget and Peter Jackson's involvement
Even the PS3 version of Shadow of Mordor is playable than this god forsaken game
@@IDHLEBDid Monolith also have more experience than just point-and-click games? Not that I'm disparaging point-and-click, but they're obviously an entirely different breed of game than other genres.
@@demonicloaf2100Monolith is more of an FPS developer. Their first game was an FPS, their most successful game, AFAIK, was an FPS, and the only reason they stopped was for the Middle-Earth games and that Wonder Woman game they're making.
“Someone is gonna make Gollum say a slur” is probably one of funniest things I’ll hear in my lifetime.
Gollum has ALREADY said a slur
"cr*cker"
He said the F-slur on MTV
@@quantumblauthor7300 He did what now
11:28 Objective complete: Restrict blood flow to Gollum's throat.
vinny actually doing the gollum voice while talking about zelda had such a visceral energy to it
Every copy of Gollum is personalized
They made this game to order 😂
Every copy of Gollum is personalized (and a piece of shit)
and haunted
not even wario wants to haunt this game
@@sparklecat60 "you want fun!? Wario show you fun!"
(Deletes the game)
I started randomly thinking about "Restrict blood flow to Gollum's throat" again today out in public, and I couldn't stop laughing.
You did this to me
The Gollum dub too 💀💀💀
man got the objective tracker irl
14:33 Bro he actually does a better gollum voice than the game does.
vinny fighting himself as gollum about botw had me in tears
...of the kingdom
@@MewFan15165 i groaned so hard reading that I sounded like gollum
@@MewFan15165 I hate it here
@@MewFan15165 TEARS of the Kindom, not Breath of the Kingdom.
hi hetalian
15:45 Vinny’s joker laugh combined with the probably the best thing I’ve ever seen from this game makes this game so much more enjoyable
Gollum somehow constantly looks like he's a low definition version of himself.
You know how in games textures in the distance are less defined?
Yeah thats how he looks by default
The word is lowpoly
Gollum runs on the "r_lod 2" console command by default
@@SilentOnionI'd say it's more like "low LoD." Low poly is usually referring to a deliberate design choice that puts emphasis on minimalism or emulation of older computer graphics.
@@SilentOnion low poly is different to low LOD
His face looks a lot like a partially finished model. I imagine the artist was working on the face and it was going great, and then their boss said frick it good enough we dont have time for more.
Who in Tolkien Estate thought it was a good idea for a studio who makes quirky point and click adventures should make a game about the little lanky fella?
It should have been a point and click game instead of a stealth platformer game.
Simon.
@@WiggaMachiavelli I hate Simon
I would not be at all surprised if this game started off as a point and click puzzle game but due to shenanigans became this
The distant backdrop and set pieces are pretty fine, so at least the background artists were mentally checked in for their jobs.
honestly uncanny to see so much decent visual detail while the characters all just float and glitch around, like the cats movie
“At least the background is nice” is like the most bottom of the barrel compliment you can give while still be genuine
The background artists weren't the ones that had to look at gollum for years
@@Person_twobackdrop is important for atmosphere, though it is quite bad that it's the only compliment
@@Person_two 😂
It’s so hilarious to me that the Gollum hair simulation is like 80% of the reason why this game runs like ass
I think theres potential in a game where you play as wretched goblin creature causing problems. Gollum though isn't really a character that works as a protagonist...You dont want him to succeed, you want him to stay locked in jail forever.
That game exists, but you play as a goose. And yep, it's really good
@@thisisnotacryforhelp5800 "Untitled Gollum Game".
I mean there's Styx?
Gollum's entire character is that he accidentally saved the world by not getting redeemed and living his whole life as a greedy selfish gremlin corrupted by black magic. Not exactly epic fantasy game protagonist material.
They need to make a game where you're just a goblin causing mischief.
I feel so bad for the devs. They don’t deserve to get the hate they get for this.
The executives and managers on the other hand…
This really made me crawl around like a baby.
That would be so beautiful
Can you do that for me?
What is that sound bite from? I have to know
A pissbaby?
@@Destro1873 it's from a clip of David Lynch directing toddlers for a scene from twin peaks the return. Just look up "David Lynch talks to kids"
The comedic timing on the death animation and ensuing game over screen is surprisingly on cue
This game has a strong "Hunt Down the Freeman" vibe to it
This is comparable to E.T. on Atari. I'm not even capable of condensing my disappointment towards this game and the gaming industry into a simple and quick sentence.
@@benjaminzarkhin1293 At the very least, there’s no physical copies to dump in a landfill, and it probably won’t singlehandedly crash the industry.
@@benjaminzarkhin1293 I’ll always defend ET because it was one of my first games but also because Howard Scott Warshaw was only given five weeks to make the game to be out for holiday ‘82. Atari games normally took six months.
I hope we get a Wha Happened on this game
@@nooneofnote8453 WIckedWiz? I'd love that!
How people can be angry about this game is beyond me! I think it's fantastic that the gaming industry is still making PS2 games.
Remember how the trailer had a bunch of epic music playing over Gollum just creeping around in bushes?
Suddenly TOTK being $70 stings SLIGHTLY less knowing that literal, genuine shovelware like this is being sold for full price.
This is E.T. on Atari levels of incompetence.
game depreciate within 3 to 4 months. the only games i ever payed full retail markup for were GTA games and forza horizon games.
A revolutionary game. Really makes you feel like Gollum-a complete and utter horrible piss baby. Amazing.
Vinny's "conversation" following the Zelda noise actually had me in tears. I don't think I've laughed that hard in forever.
I didn’t know how much I’ve needed Gollum shouting, “you BASTARD,” at random things.
In a not too distant pararell universe to us this is a fun little stealth game with Gollum. I personally don't think the concept of this game is all that bad, it's just that the execution failed in almost every place.
Yeah, I think a stealth game similar to Styx might gave been really cool, but this is just... Wow.
Honestly if a game managed to recreate that nasty euphoria Gollum was experiencing in the movies when he’s beating that fish to death and Boromir’s little brother is threatening to kill him, that game would be amazing just for that.
Like, how many games let you be the nasty little goblin slinking around and being a freak?
the golem argument mechanic is actually interesting if it wasn't so abrupt
Yeah, I don’t get why people are dissing the idea. Almost anything can be a good game, it's just about how you execute it.
It will have been an ok game if it had been released at the same time as the movies back in the 2000s. 😅
It’s been 10 years since I started watching Vinesauce and I still can’t get enough of Vinny’s laugh
@@The_Invisible_Self Yes, I was there during the dark times when no one wanted a Gollum game
Best bit of the whole video is Smeagol arguing with Gollum about Tears of the Kingdom, absolute gold
I don’t know what’s worse. The fact that this is a triple A game, or the fact that it was willingly released to the public. I genuinely thought this game didn’t actually exist until I saw live gameplay.
I remember vinny talked about it and showed it on stream such a long time ago. i forgot about it.
Its not a AAA Game.
@@deltbuddy5067 It has the price of a full AAA title - if you include the DLCs, that's intolerable for a game like this even AA.
@@TurboLight Triple A has something to do with the Budget of a game, not the price tag. You can make a AAA Game and sell it for 10€ and you can make a AA or A game and sell it for 60€+ like this one.
@@deltbuddy5067 yea but what people mean is they're charging AAA prices for a game that very much isn't, and it's nowhere near good enough to justify it
Awesome to see Vinny trying out revolutionary PS2 game, looking forward to see what 2000 holds in store for us
This is how I learn the grapefruit technique is no longer with us
RIP to a real one
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How dare you not include the moment with the NPC who randomly yelled BREEDING for no reason
Vinny should unironically do voice acting for Gollum
This game can be summarized by a Gollum line:
"Leave Now, and Never come back"
I prefer the third line where he yells it's
LEAVE NOW AND NEVER COME BACK!!!!!
Dude that Gollum voice you did was legitimately VERY impressive
My god the bit where he said gollum cant cum without restricting the blood flow had me dying
I have a sneaking suspicion that this game is FAR OLDER than any of us can imagine. Things like those "look at this plainly textured wall to crawl on" areas are so outdated in today's context, it looks like the game came out of the year 2006.
It's so blatantly terrible, I think the reason it even exists is for some tax evasion scheme.
Jedi: Fallen Order had similar textures for walls you can climb/wall run on. It released in 2019 and was also on the Unreal 4 Engine, just like this game. I havent played the sequel yet, but it will probably have similar textures.
@@WhatEverComesToMlnd It was really that bad in Fallen Order? Because I remember it much better than this.
eh, other games still have things like that, they're just better hidden and fit with the world better because they put in even a tiny bit of effort
@@mantisreturns2757 not even slightly that bad, I couldn't remember either and googled it and they were actually even better than I remember. Obviously there's indicators where you do things but they're so much more natural
Unironically, legitimately, honestly, seriously, Vinny would have performed insanely better as gollum than this voice actor
You are completely correct.
The two streamers I have seen play this game have done better. I'm thinking any one of us could have done better
Holy shit he actually sounds better ur right
Its not based on the movies but on the books so they did not try to copy andy circus voice
apparently copying Andy Serkis could've gotten them sued?
one of my fave things is how im watching this after having watched wayneradiotv stream it and, despite choosing opposite answers in the gollum v smeagle "arguments," the results were always identical.
You know it was a Trainwreck when it gets a highlight vid this fast
vinny dumped the game and will never play it again
I wish vinny would play more of this wretched game, but only because I want to see him react to the fact they give gollum a pet bird
This is like making a star wars game about how the gonk droid got captured and tortured by Jabba the hutt and you don't get to see any cool battles just walking around at a turtle's pace.
I would prefer that honestly.
Gonk
Someone actually did a speedrun with the gonk droid in lego star wars and it was as slow as you could imagine.
Yeah this feels pretty accurate to the core problem with the premise of this game. Gollum could be an interesting little menace to play as, but instead it’s nothing but pathetic, demeaning, and boring
@@Journey_to_who_knows Gonk
Hurts to see Daedalic's name on this. They haven't had perfect games every time BUT some of the games they're attached to are great and creative and even heartwarming. (Looking at you Night of the Rabbit or Anna's Quest)
Not to mention the Deponia series
This game is already breaking records, only this game can break itself not even 30 seconds into it.
another award taken from all bethesda games
9:16 I love how Gollum decelerates and jitters in mid-air while falling
I like how Gollum looks constantly confused, like he's always asking, "why am i in this game"?
14:08 Be actually hilarious If one of the devs was actually playing Zelda while sound designing.
It was a decent effort of them to remaster this obscure PS2 game, but it could really do with some polishing up before release
Company got EA’d, at least as far as I see
Daedalic Entertainment is a company who’s entire development catalog is Point-and-Click, puzzle and 2d adventure games.
They had been having financial problems since 2016, developed their last game in 2018 to focus on publishing only, then were bought out by a new parent company in 2022
And now they’ve made Gollum, a game I am extremely confident they had no idea how to make.
Revealing my biases, I played and really enjoyed Daedalic’s point-and-click games (occasionally bugs besides). I probably wouldn’t defend the company if I didn’t have a good experience like this with them.
From down here it looks like they got EA’d
The fact that this game released the same month as totk is wild💀
We don’t want TOTK taking away sales of Gollum
one runs like a switch game, and the other is actually a switch game
@@neevko267 And the latter somehow runs better than this game.
I know it’s so brave of Nintendo
A game no one wanted nor asked for yet still disappoints, that's impressive to be fair
I find funny the fact that Vinny actually broke the game like seconds upon starting to play it.
Moist had it crash at the start screen
Keep in mind they are asking for 32Gbs of RAM, an RTX 3070 for upscaled 1440p
The Objectives bit is a frontrunner for best bit of the year.
This reminds me of a gamecube era licensed movie type of game. Blockbuster rental and forget you played it kind of vibe. It would have been unremarkable then. It stands out sorely now.
This is the sequel to limbo of the lost I've always wanted to see.
Things these two games have in common: you play as some ahole trying to escape prison. Both are bad games.
The only thing gollum has over limbo is that it's not made from stolen graphics.
Fuck it actually is lol
@@saramationsgollum doesn't have a song in the end so it's even
13:53 It really does sound like Zelda
My favorite part of this game was how when they sent out early review copies some months ago, even the big review sites were like "yea, this game kinda sucks", and so the devs apparently decided to just do nothing, except make the font basic
My favorite from these review sites is from GameSpot's review where the dude had over 120 crashes in 11 hours of play.
@@slashinghades7347 those are rookie numbers
"and so the devs apparently decided to just do nothing" I can guarantee that the devs had a bad time making this and weren't at all given the time/money they needed to make something better/more funcional
I legit thought the development of this game was a joke. I didn’t know it was an actual thing.
Truly one of the games.
Of some time.
17:09 Certified “Ahhh” moment
I love the part where Gollum Gollum'ed all over the place.
(Vinny asking for more gruesome death sequences is a solid summary of this entire game, honestly. What exactly were the developers thinking? Who is their target audience?)
People who think Rings of Power fixes the issues with the original series
@@marcar9marcar972 Was there any noteworthy issues to be fixed?
@@crazykim not enough Tom Bombadil, Gandalf in a mini-skirt, the list goes on...
@@glebglub
…Can we see it?
@@glebglub Gandalf in a mini skirt
You say that like it's a bad thing.
1 Million! Finally! We can see the 24/7 AI-Generated Grey Leno Show to sleep/relax to!
Insane that this is the first game to sell 1 gollillion copies.
6:25
Why did they put more effort into animating this one-time-appearance animal than they did into animating gollum? 😂
bruh this game has to be a tax writeoff
I can't wait for 10 years down the road. People are going to play this and call it a beloved bad game. A cult favorite. The Room of video games
This game really makes you crawl around like a baby. Certified classic binyor stream.
AYYY 1MIL, congrats Binyot
HINT: Gandalf is a type of Gollum
for all concerned: the crawling around like a baby bit is from david lynch because of course it is.
Gollum won the Argument
I think the worst part is that i genuinely wouldn't mind a Gollum game, if it functioned right and was good and looked better
0:17 The game had only just begin and Vinny literally started his downward spiral of transforming into real life Gollum.
Vinny hit 1 million right now. Okay, that's all.
From Chains of Satinav and Memoria to this. My Point-and-click adventure heart weeps.
14:48 the voice they should have had for gollum.