This Rising NBA Star Got Blackballed From The League...But Why?
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Isaiah Rider was once a rising NBA star early in his career, but a series of unfortunate circumstances caused his career to fall off before it really even took off. What happened?
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I think he would have been a great sixth man. I could have seen him winning multiple sixth man of the Year awards if he had been more willing to take a backseat on a good team.
I grew up in the Antelope Valley where Rider ended up playing and going to college before UNLV. He was in trouble long before UNLV. IIRC he is originally from Oakland, got into trouble there, came out to AV high school (which is a wasteland where no top prospects would go). The fact that no academies wanted to pick him up and give him a scholarship is very telling. He couldn't even get into a division 2 college. Rider went to AV community college (a division 3 school) after high school. Jerry Tarkanian's son was the coach and told his father about Rider.That's how Rider ended up in UNLV. This guy was a giant red flag from day one. All the talent in the world, but not desire for greatness.
Best Rider story. When he got pulled over in Portland and he was busted for possession of weed, Rider was asked by the cop for his ID. Rider pulls out his basketball card and not his drivers license.
Yeah Isaiah was a beast
But he was not the first player to perform the between legs dunk,Orlando Woodridge was.
Andy looks like he doesn't even need to shave
What I love about Andy hoops is that he goes out of his way to find actually interesting nba stories that many people don’t know, instead of just talking about current media hot topics like so many other nba TH-camr.
seriously, younger generations have never heard some of these stories.
Cough *Flight Mike* cough
@@richborn6700 *cough* what's that supposed to mean?
I love his videos also,but this time he got it wrong Orlando Woodridge was the first player to perform the between the legs dunk.
No one should give 2 seconds of a thought to a mediocre role player.
Many of the players who went pro in the 1993 NBA Draft struggled with injuries and personal issues during their playing days. Chris Webber, Penny Hardaway, Allan Houston, and Jamal Mashburn were All-Stars whose careers were cut short due to injuries.
Isaiah Rider and Vin Baker were also very good NBA players, but they were plagued by personal issues.
The all-time “what-if” draft
Didn’t realize that most of those guys were in the same class together
The 90s in general had a lot of guys like that. Larry Johnson, Shawn Bradley, Grant Hill, Alonzo Mourning etc. Lots of potential great talent that would've helped carry the torch after Jordan and his era of legends aged out and retired.
@CrazyxEnigma A lot more thugs back in the 1990’s and with no social media to really report everything. Those players back then were more wild
@@holdmyweight3597 That's true.
One can say that Isaiah Rider’s trade to the Blazers began the whole Jail Blazers era
All I remember about Rider is when he came to the Lakers he talked a lot of trash and got destroyed by Kobe in practice, allegedly so bad it made him retire but that's hyperbole.
Kobe used Isiah Rider as a punching bag as a lesson for Isiah Rider for talking trash all the time when he was a Blazer in the 90's while getting beat by a young teenager Kobe Bryant during the playoffs.
I grew up in Minnesota during Rider’s time.
I very much recall them trading him after Garnett’s rookie season specifically to get him away from Garnett so he wouldn’t influence him. Garnett and JR had become friends.
They also traded Christian Laettner halfway through Garnett’s rookie year to pave the way.
Two good moves they made in an otherwise embarrassing collection of personnel moves attempting to build around KG.
They should've kept both of them really. Certainly keep Laettner. Her grew long hair and got caught up there in Minnesota Smoking Bud so that is why their bad management traded a very talented 6'10 250 player they had just drafted 3rd.
@@JimBrave-ri1octhat deal actually worked well for Leattner with him getting an all star nod with Atlanta. Some players needs to be drafted to a perfect situation inorder to thrive and the culture with the wolves was much different from Duke under Coach K and I don't think it fitted well with his personality
@JimBrave-ri1oc Nah, both of those guys were too toxic in their own way. Laettner hated Minnesota when he got drafted and was very rebellious against the organization. When McHale drafted KG in 1995, Laettner disliked it and he got traded.
As for Rider, he missed plenty of practices, got pulled over for drug possession, hated by his teammates because of his selfish attitude, and refused to seek help.
Yes, Rider was a extremely talented basketball player, but he was extremely selfish.
He was better with the Wolves just that they had No Center like Mutombo. so no your'e just making up all you tried to say. Laettner was best with the Wolves. They should've kept him. it was minnesota that was toxic. They never keep their players and build around them. @@karlanthonymargate7362 you dumb liar. Averaged 18 in Minnesota and 18 in Atlanta. He played just as well in Minnesota. Did it with more Assists and Blocks in Minnesota. Just that Malone, Barkley, Kemp were in the West. Also minnesota never knew how to build around Laettner who was a proven winner.
JR Rider's life and career should've been cautionary tale for all NBA players, but as it has shown with Ja Morant and more recently Kevin Porter Jr. - lessons hadn't been learned
who can't hear must feel
James Harden must been added here.
@@nielcarpnavaNo, he's a HoF lock.
@@nielcarpnavaHarden actually used his talent, JR rider never did
All yall commented like you've been successful in your life 😂😂😂 to funny
He was also part of the 2001 Lakers Championship team. He was their leading scorer off the bench during the season. But was not part of the rotation during playoffs
This wasn't even mentioned. A clear biased anti Rider opinionated person made this video😂
I remember JR Rider was a great player to use in the NBA games in that era. He was a horrible teammate in real life but in the games he was insane.
Insanely roleplayer esque
@@jonathansykes4986Role-Player Esque? J had hall of fame talent and skills but was into too much not to mention a lot of people don’t get that there’s extreme politics including pecking orders in pro sports beyond these same things that go on in “amateur” sports. That dude and his game was never meant to be as a role player.
I remember him coming to the Blazers. Trust me, i watched everything…as promising as he was, he was just addicted to doing stupid ass, self-destructive shit.
I don’t care if he’s grown up since then, and has become a better person. That’s great now, but when he was actually in his prime, he one of the dumbest people in the NBA. Maybe in NBA history considering his talent.
Just constant self-destructive shit. To the point where it’s almost hard for me to believe he didn’t wanna intentionally sabotage himself on some subconscious level.
@middlfingazup2446 youre clearly talking to someone who is like 16 at most and using degenerational tiktok speak
i mean JR won a ring at UNLV just fucking running wild on traditional powers almost 30 pts a game
hes comparable to someone like Stephon Marbury - Starbury.
great player. cancer as a teammate.
I remember him when I played NBA Live 2003 and saw him as a Free Agent as a 81 overall player. Back then, I was shocked why an 81 overall player is not on a team
Now you know why. A toxic player with a big ego attitude.
His troubles started before UNLV. He played at Allen County (Kansas) Juco. I was in the stands when the rival crowd was giving him the business pretty good and he threatened to kill all of us.
😂😂😂😂😂😂wtf
That goatee seque 😂.
I hate ads as much as the next guy, but I can’t hate on that.
Well played, sir
JR Rider and Harold Miner were two of my favourite players in the late 90s but they both never gone far enough. Please also do a video on Luol Deng - the same thing happened to his career after leaving the Bulls!
Grew up watching Lakers and Bulls since Las Vegas had WGN back in the day. Was super happy for Luol Deng to come to the Lakers, super sad how it ended out.
Pretty weird Miner was a fave of yours in the LATE 90s when his career was over by 96. Lol.
@@charismatic9904 96-97 is late 90s in my book!
He has a video on Luol Deng from yearsss ago
I bought a Minor Miami jersey shortly after he got drafted. I never buy jersey. I had that much hope in him.
Rider had the attitude of Lebron and Iverson put together. He thought he was bigger than the game, thought he didn’t need to listen to his coaches, and had the off the court issues. Problem was, he wasn’t as good as Iverson and wasn’t 6’8” and catered to by the league like Lebron has been.
basically a 6'5 225 pound lebron. They are the same player.
Lebron kept out of legal trouble and sold out crowds.
And what about you, let's hear about your wonderful life career 😂😂😂
this is a blasphemous statement as far as comparing him to iverson.
youd never hear Iverson complain about not getting an all star nod.
hed just go out and drop 50 while getting fouled 15 times.
"Catered to " yes because he's not just good it was the league catering to him😂yall old heads are ridiculous
If rider was playing today he wouldn't be in any trouble. Privileged lives now. You came 10 years to early
20 years too early
@@YouCanChangeYourWorldToday yes my bad I just said a random number. I am flying and have jet lag
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I started watching Minnesota during KG's rookie season. Rider was a problem. I remember that season he had great games against the 72-10 Bulls. Minnesota lost both, but the first one was close and Rider drained a bunch of threes. The second game was close too... until KG talked trash to MJ and the GOAT put the Wolves away in the 4th. Haha.
Ahh JR Rider , from the mid 90s Minnesota Timberwolves
The KG Era in Minnesota , nice to see one of these videos appear
I remember this situation with JR Rider. He thought he was better than he was (and he was good), but then he started bucking at the wrong people in the league. Phil Jackson included.
He was like the NBA's version of Terrell Owens, except worse
Phil Jackson is trash so honestly I'm with JR.
@@RobertLewis85Owens was one of the greatest receivers of all time. Top 10 minimum. That's an awful comparison.
@@nocturne311”except worse”
@@aariesharris7894 Yeah... it doesn't matter. It was a bad comparison regardless.
So in response to the question if another team has ever gotten rid of their leading scorer, the 94 Hawks did. At the deadline they were the #1 seed at the time and traded away Dominique Wilkins to the Clippers for Danny Manning and then lost Manning in FA at the end of the season. Wilkins was 34 coming off an Achilles tear but was putting up All Star numbers and the FO/ ownership didn't want to pay him. This would make for a good video imo as this is one of the worst trades a team has ever made at the deadline. What other team that has had a shot at a championship trades away their franchise player for nothing?
And Wilkins came back after that Achilles tear and hard work and was still good! What a dumb move.
The 2002 Pistons traded their leading scorer (Stackhouse) and won the title 2 years later. Number of points to scored is vaguely connected to being best player.
@@75aces97 I forgot about Stackhouse. The Hawks weren't a bad team they still finished with 57 wins, tied first with the Knicks, but Wilkins even at his age was still their best player. The trade looks even more horrendous after the fact because not only did Manning leave after the end of the season he never became the star people thought he'd be so he wasn't even worth giving up not only their best player at the time but their second best player in the history of the Hawks franchise.
@@CrazyxEnigma I completely forgot Manning only stayed for the end of that season, and had no memory of where he played after that. I guess he thought he fit better in Phoenix? But by the time he got there the key players were old and in fast decline. Leaving was bad for Atlanta, but not good for him either. But while Dominique's recovery was amazing, he was pretty washed by the next season, so I thought the trade was a chance worth taking.
I wouldn't say he didn't care about winning. He accepted a lesser scoring role in Portland because they had capable scorers and it's the only time in his career that he was part of playoff teams. His teammates didn't complain about him, it was always off the court stuff and missing practices.
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Make 1 ( million) mistakes and branded for life. Poor guy. Half court shot was most epic shot ever
Isiah was the perfect example of I’m going to get my numbers but my teammates aren’t. He was a very selfish player who only thought about his own individual success rather than the team.
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All this time I asked Andy Hoops to do a video on JR Rider. Now he decides to do it.
I often wondered what happened to Isaiah Rider. My dad gave me basketball cards as a kid, as I was getting into the NBA. His was one of them. I recognized his face instantly.
This shows even how good you are, one's attitude is still a big factor to success
JR was the best player on those early t wolves teams that had a young KG
Rider made the blazers become the jailblazers
Another example of wasted talent. This guy was a force that should of been a 25,000 point scorer who should of been a lock for the HOF based on his skill level.
At least now we have Anthony Edwards who is basically the reincarnation of Isaiah Rider
Damn I never knew any of this and Ik a lot about nba history 😱… great video/info Andy as always!
JR Rider was one of my favorite players from that era, No excuses for his choices off the Court but when he was on that Court the best of them got Crazy work From JR Rider. but he was not promoted to the masses like others, Salute Jr Rider
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I remember him playing it. It's still sad how no team wanted him 😢
Rider was fun to watch. I remember him on the trail blazers, they were a pretty damn good team with him.
Well the only thing I know from this guy is that he was a Slam Dunk Contest and an NBA champion with the 2001 Los Angeles Lakers.
And you’re early too!! Let’s go!!
When he was on the Lakers in 2001, Rider tried to bully Kobe in practice and challenged him to a 1v1 game. Kobe, of course, accepted the challenge and cooked his ass so bad the game had to be stopped. Phil Jackson didn't play Rider much after that.
Isiah Rider asked for it, received it and I don't feel sorry for him.
"THE BEST DUNK I'VE EVER SEEN!!"
-"The judges gave him a 49"
Love Rider man, first jersey I ever owned. That old 34 Timberwolves
He was a role model and inspiration for me in my troubled youth. Overhated,and underrated #34 RIP SR🫶
As a Kings fan, that behind-the-back save into a made basket lives rent free in my head 🥲
Josh Smith got amnestied after being a leading scorer
Used to try imitate the Rider heave from the sideline as a kid with my friends, we didn't have the internet then so our game of the week and 30 mins of NBA action was all we had to watch in Australia lol.. Good times
Looks like a mini Shaq lol
This is your funniest video bruh 😂
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He's good friends with my dad and my uncle i remember he came to my church around the time he played on the Lakers he probably was trying to clean up at the time
2:10 W Face reveal! Up u til this point, I Never knew what Andy hoops looked like. He got swagger!
I actually wanted Robert Pack to win that dunk contest in '94!
He hit the craziest shot in NBA history
How have I never seen that before???!
You’re like 14 right?
@@holdmyweight3597 I’m 23 lol
@@ChillPill365 I do remember that save in /shot. That was the 90's. Stuff like that and shots like that would happen every week in the 90's. The guys were far more athletic.
@@JimBrave-ri1ocBruh what lol. Did you really just say players then were more athletic???
Rider is definitely a underrated player I need to see more of🔥
In my opinion, this is where T'Wolves messed up. They drafted Laettner the year before. Arguably the greatest college basketball player of all time. He was arrogant but still discipline. Rider was good but not disciplined. Wolves would have been better served by drafting another discipline player like Cheaney who had Knight at Indiana or Hurley who was Laettners teammate at Duke with Coach K.
Wolves also had bad luck in lottery. In 93, they had #4 pick, #3 pick was Jamal Mashburn. In 94, they had #4 pick, #3 pick was Grant Hill. In 95, they had #5 pick, #4 was Rasheed Wallace.
JR Rider was dope back then 💯🔥🤙🏾
Jr . Rider is from Oakland, He used to run with these Cats from the Town, Steve Rankin an Hook Mitchell , All 3 of Them had Nasty Hoop Talent an All 3 of Them Lacked the Discipline to become Superstars which was in Them Naturally
There's goes the main man,
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Orlando Woolridge was the guy who did the East Bay Funk Dunk was it’s original name. Orlando Woolridge played on the bulls before MJ showed up and was an incredible athlete
We played him in 88 at the Gridley tournament Encinal V Tokay. Won the dunk contest but broke his arm going up for a dunk in the game. He was their center and was the best player in the tourney by far
You asked whether any star player or leading scorer had been traded by their team. I'm not sure if he was the leading scorer or not but the New York Knicks traded Carmelo Anthony who was also known as a very selfish ball dominant kind of player. I can't think of anybody else on that Knicks team that would have been scoring more points than him but I'm sure it's possible.
In 1994 the #1 seed Hawks traded their leading scorer and franchise player Dominique Wilkins. He had come back from the Achilles tear still a star, until KD he was the only one, and him being 34 ownership wasn't interested in paying him so they traded him to the Clippers for budding star Danny Manning. The kicker is Danny Manning left the Hawks in Free agency at the end of the season so they had a shot at the title and gave away their franchise player for nothing, one of the worst fumbles by a FO in NBA history!
he wasnt blackballed hr just wasnt worth the trouble
Jr Was a BEAST!!! Enjoyed watching Him & was a Lil Disappointed in how He Pissed away what could've been a HOF Career!!!
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Oh yes Isiah Rider was wondering what happened to him
Bro, unexpected face reveal lol
I never knew he was Asian but now after seeing him, I definitely hear an Asian accent. I might stop watching his videos now
@@holdmyweight3597 lmao dammmm why???
I remember his whole career. I was 10 years old when he was drafted
I never understand when these high profile athletes have the world in the palm of there hands and they throw it all away. I guess it’s an example of too much too soon without having the maturity to recognize the opportunity that is enigma presented.
i remember hearing college basketball analysts talking about this guy as a freshman at north carolina saying he they were starting an nba team the first player they would take was jr rider. sad that drugs took their toll on him
Are you confusing J R Rider with
J R Reid????
Rider played at Unlv
@@phillipcotton833 yep i think i am thank you for correcting me.
@@danielcorreard3746 no problem 👍
Completely forgot about this guy until his inclusion in the NBA 2K’s MyTeam mode
I actually remember him more for his 2K apparences, he was in the 2001 Lakers and that team is a must in every 2K game ... so yeah, he is really good as a role player. Too bad that was his last season.
Rider wasn't a good player as team player. Period!
He has a ring with Shaq and Kobe. I’d say that’s a fantastic career.
I dont know you are chinese Andy, anyway another great video! love u bro
He sounds Asian
Whoever gave JR a 9 on that dunk in that time period is a hater to end all haters lmao. Anyways, it's good he's turning his life around a bit.
Such wasted potential, basically. Some are just unteachable and uncoachable.
I remember him and I always wondered what happened
This dude is every NBA 2k MyPlayer
Still trying to wrap my mind over his “ they can’t see me bro” statement… I need time to get it
KPJ is the modern version of him lmfao 🤣
More like Anthony Edwards
I looked up this vid because I wondered how JR went from all-star level talent to back-up, garbage time player for my Lakers. He would kill us when he played for Portland. Of course we kinda sucked in the mid-90's. But I often wondered why and now I know. Glad to see he turned it around. Gil too. You done a vid on "no-chill Gil", yet?
what is an illegal cell phone lol? and yeah i remember using the pop cans to smoke in high school, easiest quickest way to make a pipe, just need a knife and 1 minute
The highlight at the 10:54 mark was called a travel lol.
Rider joined the Lakers in 2001 and won a championship with them against the Sixers. That fact should’ve been included in this video.
I’m confused on the charge of illegal phones, what makes a phone illegal?
5:56 😂 facts
Rider was so good, they made a movie about him. If I remember correctly, it was called "Easy Rider."
Hard Rider is the correct film name for him.
I remember him starting off well with the Lakers and then quietly he wasn't playing. There's really no stories about that and was hoping this video would explain it.
There's rumors he got into it with Phil Jackson. All I know is he talked a lot of trash and challenged Kobe 1v1 and got destroyed so bad it allegedly killed his confidence. This happened but it affecting him that much is probably hyperbole.
@@CrazyxEnigma yeah Phil knew how to control a team and had his doghouse
Sad just sad I liked watching him play but we all knew he was one of those guys who play for me myself and I
At 1st I thought he's rampage Johnson 😅
I am one of the few who actually got to watch J.R. when he was playing for Encinal High School in Alameda, CA.
Why was I "one of the few"? Because over his four years at Encinal, he only played about half a season. The rest of the time, he was off the team for either disciplinary or scholastic reasons. The one game I did see him play, he was disinterested, drifting through the game at half-speed. Barely played defense unless the play came right into his area... Scored 20 or so without much effort at all, and his team lost by 10. His obvious talent and physical supremeness was completely wasted.
He'd get into trouble for silly things, like getting caught pitching pennies on the street corner, etc... And his excuse would be "The 'Man' is always out to get me" or somesuch.
For awhile at junior college and at UNLV, it looked from the outside like he was starting to figure life out, but nope...
Too bad. In my estimation, he could have been a truly great superstar on the level of Jordan, Magic, Kobe, etc.
Hope this more recent news shows that he's finally started to get things on the right track.
It's ridiculous how many interesting topics he has in his sleeve.
Hahaha, I remember cutting class and smoking weed from a soda can.
@5:32 Little John Cena was listening in that day.
Dude smoking weed off a pop can while in the nba! Is crazy!🤦🏾♂️😂
The 1990's was hard for shooting guards. Franchises were looking for the next Michael Jordan and the focus was on being that guy at shooting guard. The mentality sort of required being a bit selfish, slashing to the basket and volume scoring with mostly mid-range shooting. And Isaiah Rider on paper fit that mold. Unfortunately, there could only be one MJ. Other players with amazing talent such as Tracy McGrady and Anfernee Hardaway were originally drafted and projected to be a sort of a prototype Magic Johnson with their handles, size and length. But ultimately, their games were more suitable for the SG position. I wish Isaiah Rider's career flourished better. It was a shame that Kevin Garnett arrived later. The Minnesota T-Wolves had so much bad luck with chemistry back then. The T-Wolves players should have been a contending team if they all simply bought into Kevin McHale's plan. The T-Wolves had talent on paper during that 1990's stretch.