How GOOD Was Andrew Bynum Actually?
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Andrew Bynum was once considered one of the best centers in the NBA. His rise to prominence took a long time, but...his fall out was faster than you can blink.
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My thoughts were he could've gotten more out of his career than he did. He was a beast when healthy, but could never stay consistently healthy
To put in perspective how short Bynum's career was he's only 35 years old as of writing this comment and he's been out of the league for almost a decade. T-mac lasted longer and he was done at merely 32.
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theres 2 bigmen that we missed out to see their true potential. andrew bynum and greg oden. imagine those 2 bigmen going at it with dwight howard to see who was the undisputed best bigman in the NBa
Andrew Bynum. What an elbow to the ribs.
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Man them injuries killed him!! Wish we could’ve seen what he would be!!
He sucked as a person and was dirty player.
He fell off the face of the earth. Besides a few photos of him visiting China and the 2016 finals nobody knows what he's up to. I thought maybe he'd come out with a statement on the passing of Kobe but never did.
What you saw is what it was. He wasn't going to improve much more. He never had the desire to be a star nor to have a long career
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Bynum’s career was never the same after his knee injury in 09. Him being a Jim Buss guy didn’t help him with Phil either.
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Andrew Bynum threw a temper tantrum in Game 4 of the 2011 playoffs against Mavs on the most humiliating sweep in playoff history!
I think he could have been a franchise player, the leading scorer on a team, MVP conversations each season, and get them in deep playoffs run each season, which is unreal to believe for any center/powerfoward to do in the NBA post-2010, when the NBA started to distance themselves from post-player-big-man and started to focus on guards and small forwards with speed and athleticism.
Bynum was also a really good free throw shooter, so he was not gonna be a liability on that aspect of the game
I'm glad you all are acknowledging him as a top 2 center of his time. Keep the same energy when we have goat arguments and who had "superteams" and help
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Bynum was my 2nd favorite laker next to Kobe. too bad his career went short
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I remember when Bynum had that mop top Beatle hairdo!
Andrew Baynum injuries KILLED HIM
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Oh man I missed the 2008-2010 version of LAL. Andrew was probably the big what if in the NBA history.
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I still think they can win the 08 finals if Bynum and Ariza didn't get injured
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Probably not, ariza broke out the following season and Bynum wouldn’t made any major impact
@cresv422 ? Ariza played in the 09 season and Bynum was healthy for playoffs, and the lakers won though....
Agreed. Celtics fans always bring up Perkins and guess what leprechauns? Bynum and Ariza both were more important to our team than Perkins was to yours.
I’m not even a Celtics fan I just knew my lakers weren’t touch enough to beat that 08 Celtics team
As a Laker fan who watched all his years in LA, he was never better than Pau Gasol nor he could ever replaced Pau due to his inability to pass out of double team. He peaked “stat-wise” in 2012 sure. But true Laker fans were more annoyed by him. Because his emergence took possessions away from Pau, who is the true core of the triangle offense.
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When he stopped working with Kareem it all went downhill from there
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I have a weird perception of Bynum: I don't think he was as strong or as fast as people give him credit for. I honestly think he was more of a weak body overall that got put on overdrive and broke off because of it.
Probably because he didn't take care of his body in the offseason. Honestly think this is true of every great NBA "what if" talent like Penny Hardaway, Tmac, Vince Carter. Those guys never cared enough like Kobe/Lebron to train 365 days a year
Andrew Bynum was a better version of Michael Olowokandi. He also has bad luck with injuries.
Andrew Bynum was a better post up player. Because he was mentored by kareem
He's good but just for a year. At least his a 2 time NBA champ as a role player.
Oh yeah good ol' Andrew Bynum. Definitely the second best center during that era behind Dwight and it's really a shame that he ruined his own career by a single mistake going bowling despite enduring a knee injury in 2013.
One more year he would have been better than Dwight. He had more offensive moves
Even if he didn't go bowling, his mentality would have held him back. His knees were never there.
2 words Brook Lopez 2000s and 10s weak era of centers 90s great big man era and now great big men have emerged
Pretty sure his knees were degenerative. So it would’ve been Brandon Roy like if I remember right
I don’t think that bowling injury made that much of a difference. He just had glass knees.
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When I saw it…. I was like ODEEE
Unfortunately to me he’s known as the guy who did one of the dirtiest things in a basketball game I’ve ever seen
I agree,I couldn’t stand him bf thst dirty play but after it I really hated him.
I don't know if he would have lasted even if he stayed healthy. with the way the game changed especially in the mid 2010s his style of play was outdated by that point. we saw this happen to guys like Dwight Howard and to a lesser extent Roy Hibbert and Jahlil Okafor. it's sad that's how the game is now you just don't see teams running through bigs in the post anymore.
Yeah exactly. Curry changed the era for good.
He would've had to change his game. In theory he could've been able to as Brook Lopez and both Gasol brothers eventually worked the three into their game. Who knows if Bynum would've had the desire to do so though.
@@CrazyxEnigma yeah but then Bynum wasn’t know for more than 1 dimensional player.
@@edgaryzen4925 No he wasn't. He just wasn't seen as an especially hard worker and part of that like Andy touches on is he basically had to rehab an injury nearly every year. Who knows? Maybe Bynum could've become a good 3 point shooter had he stayed in the league and got some semblance of health.
It doesnt matter if he stays healthy he coud be next shaq
I’m glad the lakers took a chance and drafted him despite his injury history it paid off with 2 championships
Those injuries were caused by his own teammates. Big what if, sigh..
Drafting Bynum is the one thing Jim Buss did right.
@@kakusetin 2008 because of Lamar and in 2009 it was Kobe.
He was a pillar in our defense definitely a top center at that time, great content.
Our? You were on the Lakers squad back then?
@@janoycresnova9156 Give him some slack. Dude's probably from LA.
Since he just recently retired, make a video about "How Good is Andre Iguodala actually?" Will gladly appreciate it.
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If Bynum never had those injuries, he could’ve been a top 10 center in the game. His footwork and low post scoring ability was unmatched.
But then he would be gone in few years thanks to the eventual new era of 3pts small player team like Curry’s. Bynum is 1 dimensional player like Taco Falls who still didn’t get a job
As a fan of bynum I don’t think he would of been a top 10 center since there’s so many better guys he wouldn’t be able to catch up too, unless he took off like a superstar making 10 straight all stars with big scoring numbers
I can't believe how incredibly wrong this statement is. He only played as well as he did because of Kobe and Gasol. He was NO WHERE NEAR the talent that Dwight Howard who took a team to the finals by himself.
Bynum was a beast!
U forgot his mindset he was really unpredictable
3:29 This was the main thing Phil Jackson emphasized throughout his coaching career: *_rebounding_*
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He was the second best center in the league at a time when the great centers were retired and the stretch 5s weren't in vogue yet. If he hadn't gotten injured he would've had a similar fate to Dwight as shooting took more and more precedence over post play. He would've had to become an elite defender or improve his shooting if he wanted to stay in the league.
I’ve witnessed him be under Pau end Kob’s wings that ring.
7:50 Nowadays centers wouldn’t just be encouraged to take these types of shots, they would be _expected_ to.
And that’s why I keep telling people to stop comparing eras because things were different just 10 years ago. Back then if a player were to just jack up 3’s like they do now they’d find themselves out of the league kinda like what happened to josh smith.
No they absolutely would not.
They’d be expected to develop the shot, so that they could take it.
If they couldn’t, then they absolutely never be allowed to shoot it. There aren’t centers taking threes just because. There never have been nor will there ever be.
His post moves were a thing of beauty, which is why today's NBA basketball is so unwatchable. Players dribble dribble dribble then heaves from logo three. Ugh.
He has promise. I’m sure Kobe was frustrated with the kid. He was immature and probably injury prone on top of that. He showed glimpses of being a really good, unstoppable centers at times.
It's a shame people really thought Bynum was the best center when his best season statistically is comparable to Dwight's first season in L.A. Howard was recovering from back surgery
Other than Dwight there was nobody else at the time. Stat wasn't really a Center and fell off due to injury and not playing with Nash. Ben Wallace and Shaq were both on their last legs and on their way out of the league.
Bynum had a lot of help with having Gasol there. It took a lot of attention off him for him to score on top of rebounds.
Bynum was showing star potential before gasol got there. Pau benefited from Bynum more than anything. They both benefited from each other overall.
@@willardweston8984 Gasol still had a better career after playing for the lakers and Bynum didn’t.
@@willardweston8984 the difference is Gasol was a proven all star without Kobe and Bynum. If Bynum played on a bad team, he would be medoocre at best and not close to all star level. Playing with Kobe and Gasol benefited Bynum the most. He was no where near the player Dwight was who took Orlando to the finals by himself even beating Lebron in a playoff series
@@weho_brian Bynum was the 2nd best player on the lakers in the 2007-2008 season before the gasol trade. Gasol was getting pushed around by KG and Perk in the 2008 finals, so Gasol need Bynum more. Gasol did make 1 all star appearance before the Lakers but don’t hang your hat on that argument. Bynum was much needed in 2010.
@@Kil000999 Bynum’s knees betrayed him🤷🏾♂️
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I still rock my old Bynum jersey he was so skilled for his age and then his Ming and body got the better of him so sad I love Andrew Bynum his dissent was so hard to watch
Bynum coulda been top 10
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I think about that 2011 season where he averaged 18 and 11 way too often lmaoo
If injuries ever happened, Bynum would be the second best center in the west behind Greg Oden. They played against each other in the preseason, and I remember Oden dominating Bynum.
I wish the 2011 or 2012 Lakers were on 2k they deserve it because Kobe was still good and they had pau gasol and bynum and odom
Ahh good old Andrew Bynum what could’ve been men those injuries for by numbers were absolutely rough and just catastrophic for him. If he never got hurt man what could’ve happened to his career if he would’ve stayed on the Lakers, or if he actually did played in Philly the whole trust the process thing probably would’ve never happened and they probably would not have tanks for Joel Embiid or Ben Simmons in 2016
yeah but when Bynuim was healthy he avg 15pts per game, I dont really understand your point. People are acting like Bynum was the Derrick Rose of centers, he was never really that good to begin with and only benefited from playing with Kobe/Gasol.
@@weho_brian His best season in 2012 he averaged 18 and 12 at 24 years old. You're right he wasn't Rose and probably never would've been a serious MVP candidate as the #1 option on his own team but we never saw him as the #1 guy. By the time he was reaching his prime years he was already out of the league.
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Bynum basically had the same problem as Brandon Roy. Became one of the best in the league at his position only for his career to abruptly end because of a knee condition. However, the Lakers trading him messed up his confidence, as Andy alluded to at the end.
Andy, you should do a video about the 2004-05 SuperSonics. That was the last good team in Seattle and they were kind of ahead of their time with how much they emphasized the threes. They had the first Splash Brothers, so to speak, with Ray Allen and Rashard Lewis.
Roy was a beast!
He was the 2nd best center behind Dwight in the late 00s
A lot of casuals dont know this
That open 3 he took that got him benched, pretty sure thats a normal shot nowadays, how things have changed.
Bynum was killing that year before Kobe slammed into his knee, ending his season. He was never the same after that but he was at his best before that injury.
I saw Dwight vs Bynum in 2011, in Los Angeles. Dwight dominated Andrew with 22 and 16. He also limited Andrew to 10 points on 3-9 from the field, with 17 boards. Dwight’s defense is better but Bynum is better offensively
100%, and I like Bynum. But Dwight was better. Bynum was a throwback to 90s centers like Shaq, good in the post. Dwight was criticized for his lack of skills in the post, but he was the future of the Center position. In fact, Dwight suffered from listening too much to haters like Shaq and trying to change his game.
Lol having more fluid post moves doesn't mean you're a better offensive player if it doesn't translate to scoring more.
Dwight had limited moves but he was most definitely a better offensive player by just being a better lob target
Bynum wasn't in his all star form until 2012 though while Dwight was in his prime.
Bynum didn’t play nearly as much as Dwight had at that time. Also, Dwight is a heck of a lot more physically gifted. Dwight was 8 years in and Bynum was 7 in. However, Andrew missed how many games?
@@ballinboxer3676 I mean, if you have Kobe on your team, you ain't scoring more. He also had Gasol to contend with in touches. Whereas Orlando Dwight was the focus of their offense. Conclusions like these happen when you just look at stats and not the whole picture. No disrespect to Dwight, as he is a top 75 player in my own eyes, but Bynum was simply the better offensive player at his peak.
So I bought NBA 2K14 and I rebuilt the Lakers to what they were before the 2013. I got Bynum back as the starting centre and MAN his moves and shooting style are as smooth as silk. I can easily see why people here sing his praises and why he helped win the 2010 championship.
He was the best dirty big man in the game
Too sad... He was a great talent but his knees wouldn't listen.
This is the one I been waiting for I always feel like he’s forgotten about
It’s like he got drafted at 17 years old and 2 years after he competing for a championship. Never had time to grow
He had the emotional maturity of a 13 year old.
You mean the kid that was drafted at 17?
@@HooodClassicsTV yeah him
he got karma for his attitude towards jj barea
He became so good out of nowhere then fell off just as quick lol suffered the only injury that could could be considered funny, other than dwight howard injuring his ass 🤣
Having seen his whole career play out, him becoming an All Star and All NBA was expected. He was rarely healthy on a consistent basis and was only 24 years old in 2012 and had his best season. But when he was healthy? He showed the potential of being one of the all time greats. Even without the injuries his attitude and the league rapidly changing, going away from post play and being ever more perimeter oriented would have been impediments for him.
crazy to think Bynum could have been playing till this day or retired recently if healthy !!
Kenyon Martin or Emeka Okafor next
I always liked how Bynum used to always keep the ball high like all centers should do. Don't bring the ball down to the level of the players that are shorter.
Kareem was turning him into a beast before the injuries got him.
I definitely credit the Big 3 of Bynum, Gasol, and Odom, for LA's two championships at that time. Kobe always thought he was the key to winning, but Shaq and these 3 showed that dominant big men were the key to winning, especially at that time in the NBA.
Ron aretest too. Don't ever let kobe fans let you think he ever won anything without a superteam
@@jaahnnn The Lakers weren't a superteam. Artest/Odom/Bynum/Fisher/Ariza weren't these all-star or consistent shot creators. But they definitely had the best frontcourt in the league and it showed when the Lakers would win games even when Kobe shot 35% FG.
I will always think of Bynum as the 2nd best center in the league behind Dwight but injuries/immaturity stopped him from his peak. and the cheap Elbow
He was pretty good
his foul on jj barea was sick
can you do how good was Tom Chambers?
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He got 2 rings so he's straight
Wow thanks Andy Hoops for making videos about me, I admit that I was lost of focus since we won 2nd chips and failed to win our 3rd.
Traded to Sixers is one of the reasons to make me lose focus, Kobe is always the one that push me further, without him and Gasol I lost my interest on playing pro basketball. I'm so regretting my decision back then.
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This is might be the respons if the real Bynum watched this videos and replied to Andy
Idk why my only memory of Andrew Bynum was in the 2012 ASG:
"Get a stop man"
Bynum: *gets blocked* "AAAAAYY :("
I remember there wasa time when him and Dwight were the the two best centers in the league, but there werent really any good centers back then
He was definitely the best offensive center from 2011-2013, Kobe was holding him back a little as well but he proved him wasn’t mature enough for the game. This guy was dominating on a ridiculous fg%
A lot of people forget but kobe was banged up before he tore his Achilles he had knee surgery in the 2010 off season and had knee problems before the Achilles injury that was the last straw but there’s no telling what would of happen if he didn’t get hurt that 2013 season dragging the lakers to the playoffs playing insane minutes and guarding the point guards he was also in his 17th season age 34
If Bynum never had those injuries he woulda been better then Dwight. Bynums offensive game was miles ahead of Dwight’s cause Dwight depended on pure athleticism plus Bynum could hit free throws
Dwight Howard doesn't get enough criticism for forcing his way to LA after the Lakers humiliated him in the Finals.
I love me some Mamba but before I watched this I only remembered his toxicity with Diesel and D12 but geez him and Bynum didn’t mesh either..That’s crazy 😂
The thumbnail text got me excited about AndyHoops actually being Andrew Bynum. Like a face reveal thing.
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Yeah they looked weird
Andrew Bynum was definitely a great player but as the saying goes: 'The flame that burns Twice as bright burns half as long.'. Injuries really killed his career. He was doing really great in the 2008-2009 season until that freak accident to his knee against Memphis that year, derailing his upward trajectory. Eerily, the season prior, there was a similar accident to his other knee against the same team around the same time!
I was in a NBA fantasy league for the first time and having most of my team comprised of the Lakers starters with Kobe, Gasol and Bynum. Fun times. Thanks for another great video Andy!
I think he had 2-3 years he was the best center in the league and this was when Dwight Howard was the other only obvious choice .. he was offensively better than Dwight maybe a level less defensively and could crash boards almost as good.. had a go to move and better free throw shooter and jus shooter in general but that being said the dude wasn’t all there .. heard back in day when he first became a laker lapd getting called to his first house in Westchester by lax for loud music every night and how he was a pill popping animal ! Who knows but he was out of league before he really hit his prime
He might have still been in the NBA if injuries didn't derail him. But hey, 2 championships.
A key factor in the 10' NBA Finals when the Celtics lost Perkins, KG had to guard him, Gasol and Odom all by himself.
lol, Bynum was hurt as well and played limited minutes. LA had home court and wasn’t going to lose game 7.
@@Mike1122. "Played limited minutes" compared to Perkins "out" is very impactful bro. How Doc Rivers gonna do his rotation to deal with those limited minutes with his lineup
Sorry, you said the stat “WARP” & I had to click away. These advanced stats are getting ridiculous
What a stroke of luck that the Lakers got rid of Bynum when they did! Literally right after getting traded from Los Angeles he gets a career-ending injury and never even gets to play a game for Philly
He was great until he told Kareem F.U and then went bowling n got injured. He a top 10 center to me won back 2 back with Kobe 🏆🐍
I think he wouldve gotten the al jefferson treatment by like 2015 or so, just going extinct with that type of play style
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He had only one good season and he’s second to Dwight? You all forgot it was Yao Ming who always had Dwight’s number
He was in my class in community college under a different name. He was dressed in different clothing to hide his identity (which I don't blame him for because I wouldn't want that attention either). This was back in 2017.
Sounds legit. What multi millionaire would not want to go to a community College?
@@janoycresnova9156 As to why he would actually need to go to college after making that kind of money is beyond me. However, he probably went to JC because one, he wanted to keep a low profile. Two, he probably didn't meet the initial requirements to attend a big name university.
There's nothing wrong with bettering yourself, even if you already are a multi millionaire.
@@janoycresnova9156 lol right?? If he wanted to hide his identity, wouldn't he just take classes online??
@@jaahnnn IDK. Maybe he wanted to go in person. I never asked.
Not joking at all that there was a time period in the NBA where Dwight Howard and Andrew Bynum were the 2 best centers in the NBA
Bynum out played Howard in the Finals. And he was doing it while injured.
If ANDY did other sports videos they be 🔥🔥🔥 for real..
He is jeff Ruland 2.0 , history repeat itself 😢😢😢