NCR, Delco-Moraine and Chrysler Air-temp losses really hurt. I had forgotten about Mead Paper. Losing the SAC Wing unit out of Wright-Patt didn't help either. Fairborn just dried up after that.
Dayton native. St. Elizabeth's hospital born. You didn't state anything that I found to be overwhelmingly false however,you didn't mention the city's biggest detriment: DRUGS!! We're the intersection of I-75 & I-70. For those that are geographical knowledge deficient,that's 2 roads that connect Miami,Florida to Detroit,Michigan & Los Angeles to D.C. need I say more? Its heartbreaking. Much like the rest of the U.S.,you'd be hard pressed to find ONE family that hasn't been devastated or negatively effected by drugs here. Its only getting worse
I am now 86 y.o. I worked for NCR from 1957-1967. Dayton residents refereed to NCR as "The Cash." I attended NCR training classes for many months off and on through the late fifties to early sixties. I really liked living in Dayton. Actually, if Dayton was now like it was in the early sixties, I'd still love to be living there - cheering on the Dayton Flyers. (They had some really good BB teams back then.) NCR was non union while other big employers, GM, for example, were union. Union workers snickered at we NCR employees. Of course, we know what the corporations do - they move their manufacturing to ANYWHERE that is less expensive, e.g. non-union. The strong unions may have been part of the cause for Dayton to lose NCR and GM. NCR was slow to adjust to the new high tech world and that certainly added to their demise as a manufacturer of computers, etc.
Worked at Mead not Med right out of high school. Surprised you didn't mention the multiple GM plants. Whole communities grew around each one. I know there was at least four large separate plants. Also known for the funk bands that originated here. We also had a downtown theater that was famous for the Kenley Players, so many actors came to town to do stage acting, especially I know the 1960s. Early arena musicians came to have concerts at Hara Arena, Elvis, Johnny Cash to name a couple. Hopefully we can become a bustling area once again. Most living here don't plan on leaving either way. The Gem City is our hometown.
Delco was the most well known divisions of GM in Dayton. The name Delco came from the Dayton Engineering Laboratories Co., founded in Dayton, Ohio, by Charles Kettering and Edward A. Deeds in 1909. Delco was responsible for several innovations in automobile electric systems, including the first reliable battery ignition system and the first practical automobile self-starter.
We had fabulous jazz acts at Gilly's. Salem Ave used to be bustling and beautiful. Good Samaritan and St Elizabeth hospitals were needed, now they're gone... Lots has been lost. I miss those days.
Oh we loved the Kenley Players!! In the early & mid 1970s We wld come stay at the Mall Moter inn Hotel (where RTA hub is now) & that's where all the actors wld stay too!! We wld swim w them on the roof pool & my brothers wld get paid to walk the star's dogs! LOL! My mom started dating Glen Campbell's Stand in(& he looked like Glen Campbell too!!) I've met Barbara Eden (she played Maria in Sound of Music!) I've met Lucy Arnez (Lucille Ball & Desi Arnez Daughter) she played the princess in The Princess & The Pea play Oh We met Her mother Lucille Ball at Marians Pizza for the Cast Party!! We wld stay at the Mall Moter Inn hotel for the opening night and then come back & stay the wkend for the final run the final performance & cast party at Marians Pizza so that way we lived w them, we watched em work then we ate w em!! So many stars! It was my mom's way of getting over a divorce from an air force officer and she being from Chicago & we living in Fairborn (we did live in officer housing on base) my mom thought Fairborn was too small town for her so she loved taking us kids to Dayton to see the Kenley Players at memorial Hall!! Those were great memories!! Thanks for the reminder !! Blessings !!
Nice video. Born and raised here in Dayton. It's sad this used to be an awesome place. The east.and.westside of Dayton are.disturbing to see. Poverty and bad choices and poor leadership has dragged this place thru the ringer. I miss those days and there is some changes taking place. But these so called leaders are a not funny JOKE!
I'm from Dayton, went to Stiver's in the 60s. Things went downhill in the 70s. Liberals took over after the 68 riots and it's been a crime ridden city ever since. Loved Dayton in the 60s left in 75.
They were trying to make Cincinnati Dayton a metro-plex. Combining the two city complex into a single area! It still might happen and would save Dayton.
@@Carbiniz3r Dayton Springfield do. Young's, Guerras krazy tacos and speakeasy ramen both highest rated in the whole region both called vest in state, Dayton has some really incredible authentic mexican, and I think a far superior musuem.
I read that at the turn of the 20th century, Dayton was the leader in patents produced. Dayton is also the home of Chewy, a pet product company that is very large .....
I'm from Cleveland, Ohio originally, but I have made Columbus, Ohio my home since 1977. I'm an artist, and as such I was able to exhibit in Dayton, in Cleveland, Cincinnati, Canton, and in other mid-western cities. In Detroit, and in Indianapolis. Now way back in the 1980s, before and during the times I was exhibiting there,...Dayton was enjoying much revitalization. New "hip" places to dine, drink, see Art,...& listen to music, were sprouting up everywhere. They even have an Art Institute that many attend. I hope it didn't go back down hill after those years. We enjoyed ourselves there, and found it a place one might want to move to. Of course since then, Columbus has really grown a lot, and may be hippest place in Ohio, in 2022.
I've restored houses here in Dayton with some of the nicest craftsmanship in tile, wood etc. And gota say you should come out here and hangout with us sometime it's a beautiful place
I’ve only been to Dayton a handful of times for my annual pilgrimage to WGI finals. Doesn’t seem like there’s a lot going on there outside of that weekend. But you guys have a nice aerospace museum - I got to see the SR-71 flight suit my grandpa worked to develop.
Industry moved out, then it went through rough times, then the Detroit mob moved in and pushed out the Chicago mob and recruited the gangs they didnt kill off. They are big on stability and steady income, so Dayton is alot safer now. Been here for 20 years.
Another factor in the decline of Dayton has been the educational tradition of Industrial Age high wealth families of Dayton. They often sent their children to East Coast boarding schools. The Pattersons, Meads, Talbotts, Shaws, etc. and even high wealth families today have practiced this. As young adults these offspring have often remained on the coasts and invested there as adults because they have limited Dayton connections after growing-up on the coasts. Cincinnati has had Summit Country Day, Country Day, St. Xavier, Ursuline Academy, Seven Hills School (and now Cincinnati Hills Christian Academy) for many years and it was/is rare for Cincinnati elite families to attend high school or earlier in the East. That has helped to keep old money investments in Cincinnati and has been a tailwind to a thriving middle market sector. Dayton remained more dependent on large corporates to provide jobs and prosperity. If they leave for college there is a much better chance they return than when they leave town for high school. Dayton has Miami Valley School since 1964 but that has a particular appeal that doesn’t cover the spectrum of political and religious philosophies that the 5 elite schools in Cincy do.
I'm a Michigan native (michigander). Moved here in 2014, graduated from Centerville in 2018, enlisted in the Air Force in 2019 and got put right back here 🤣. Its a great area to raise a family and settle down. Theres a lot to love about Dayton and the surrounding cities. Alot of people are moving away. Montgomery County covers most of Dayton and its surroundings and is also the highest taxed county in the state. Other than that, I really enjoy the area.
I have so many coworkers from Dayton and they always say it's worth the miles to drive to Cincinnati everyday for their job because there's no jobs in Dayton. Heartbreaking. I don't understand why they just won't move here instead of wasting all that gas money
Keep in mind KY residents drove to Dayton daily to work in factories after WWII. Some did rent apartments and return to their wives in KY on the weekends.
Lots of newer jobs in warehouses and distribution, but not the volume or income potential to rebuild the area. I75/70 interchange busy, but many roads and bridges in poor repair, needed more GM jobs to return than did, and fulfillment jobs paying way low.
@@cindyfavorite195 gas prices don't help either😔😔 the government knows us ohioans are dirt poor 🤣🤣 don't understand why they can't help the citizens of Cincinnati and Dayton with these income problems among other things..
Turned down a IT job offer from Mead in 1984 and a move to Dayton. The Mead office building was impressive. Expensive and unionized labor in the area eventually were the downfall of many industries.
Dayton itself is a shit hole in my opinion. I live south of dayton and hear nothing but drugs murders theft and all the usual stuff. Dayton died when all the machine shops and manufacturing left
I'm an alumni of Wright State University---which has gained positive National recognition is several areas of learning, over the decades. One other renovation not included in this nice short video has to do with the Performing Arts! There are several large venues for large touring companies including musicals and concerts---plus several excellent local professional live theatres and the Dayton Contemporary Dance Company (DCDC) and Dayton Orchestra. The Dayton Institute of Art is very nice museum with both permanent exhibits and again, exhibits that tour the country. There's more to Dayton than meets the eye. The Miami River and Riverscape in Downtown are quite lovely as well. Sure-----the city still has MAJOR economic problems, but it ain't dead yet!
I'm an ex Daytonian. What happened to Dayton is pretty simple. The industry shut down, All the money people left. Slums started popping up everywhere. Anyone who could afford to do it either moved to the suburbs or left the area. Drugs became rampant. That's what happened to Dayton!
Lived in Dayton proper my whole life. And for what it is, it's an awful city. Our roads are falling apart, needles are just left in the streets, our homeless population is known for its aggressive panhandling, and you just get used to the sound of gun fire. Cars are regularly broken into and stolen. The police are unresponsive, and it's literally just not safe to take a walk around the house. Those who like to romanticize Dayton usually don't live in the city, but one of the outlying cities like Kettering, Centerville, or Beavercreek. It tries and fails to offer big city life, with little to do other than our so so minor league baseball team. My advice, if you ever get the chance to visit Dayton, go to Cincinnati or Columbus instead. The best thing about Dayton is the beer, which says something about Dayton. If your stuck here, the alcohol will easy that pain, but to you really want to go some place where drugs (alcohol) and healthcare are really the only highlights? Oh, and I didn't say good healthcare, just... Lots of healthcare. You can't go 2 miles without a Kettering health network or Premiere health building in sight. And if you do visit Dayton, drive down into Oakwood and look at all the doctors houses. (Search Hills and Dales park) and keep driving on that street and take pictures of the wealth. Good times!
The drinking water in Dayton, Ohio is crap. Not fit to drink period. Ever since Sherwin Williams Warehouse had a fire that was located on top of the acufier the water has been unfit to drink, and hasn't gotten any better. In fact its gotten worse.
I was born and raised in Dayton Ohio. Will let me phrase that as my street got incorporated into Dayton Ohio. It was called Mad River Township at the time. I’m fifty now. And I live in Baton Rouge Louisiana. I left 13 years ago. But I didn’t leave because of the city I left to be closer to my family preferably my son. I saw the downfall of Dayton in the early 90s when the defense contractors more preferably called “DECE”. They left the area under the Clinton administration when they shut down several Air Force Base and defense contractors. And then the biggest downfall of them all was the auto industry. Those two devastated the town. And then of course NCR moving its operations to Atlanta at the time during all of this but still kept a footprint in Dayton. I ran a restaurant in downtown Dayton at the turn of the century in downtown was almost literally empty. The biggest travesty of all is the arcade building downtown Dayton. It is left empty since the mid-80s and nobody has said anything with that property cents in it was gorgeous at its heyday. But they’re right Dayton is on the rise because of Healthcare and the new baseball stadium downtown along with the building of the Schuster center with the Rikes building being torn down. There is revitalization in Greene County one County over but it’s still considered the date metropolitan area. So it’s on its rise. It will always be my hometown and I will always wanted to see it succeed. I just hate nickname for our town which is called “little Detroit”. That stigmatism needs to be gone immediately.
Ik it's a weird choice but I'm actually vacationing in Dayton this summer. I'm really excited as I've never really spent more time there than a drive by on the way to other places.
Im born and raised in east Dayton. Its by far not what it used to be. Its getting worse every year. No good paying jobs anymore and half my friends are dead from drug overdose. Dayton is a shit whole. I moved out of Dayton few years ago. Dayton used to be a good place but its a shit whole now
Dayton is part of the drug highway and has the most OD deaths in the country. Beavercreek is starting to have a drug problem as well mother got almost mugged and we live in a pretty good neighborhood as well. I still feel Dayton is a decent place to live in, but idk..I’m skeptical but Dayton is progressing.
The city of Dayton may have declined but the suburbs surrounding the Wright-Patt AFB just outside the city are growing fast. Wright-Patt is THE largest AFB in the United States by personnel and every large aerospace company and many many smaller ones are located here. Tons of high paying aerospace and military tech jobs are here and more keep coming. I love living in the Dayton area.
Travelled the whole world, it's always nice to come home to Dayton. There are really about a million people here, living in the suburbs they get around. I think there are too many people living here, all of the exits get backed up for a mile every day during rush hour. Forget trying to do errands between 3-6pm, traffic is so thick with Dayton natives
Good analysis but you failed to mention PHP or Sinclair in a video about Dayton. We've definitely seen better times but Dayton still has awesome food and up until PHP and KMC started buying out all the small doctors, we had pretty good healthcare too. It's a decent place to own real estate, depending on the area of Dayton.
@@phoenixrising441 it was $45 per credit hour back when I was going. You're right that they have up to date equipment but their professors have always been their biggest assets.
I live in Dayton right now. They've got Fuyao Glass here now, employing people. Drugs have all but destroyed Dayton as well. I'm a recovering dope addict, and I live in sober living now. I've been clean for 14 months. Drugs are what got me here in the first place. At least they do have a lot of resources for addicts and low income people. I've been stuck here for 8 years, and am trying to move out eventually. I used to loathe it here, and call it a toxic cesspool of shit, but it's kind of grown on me now.
Some factories leaving here, poor leadership there (one instance happens to be running for Governor). A bit of heroin over here, some shootings over there. I live in the suburbs of Dayton in Beavercreek. For all we make fun of the absolutely abysmal schooling in Dayton, and the drugs, everyone around here does like the city. Going to the Oregon district and getting some food is always a good time. Going to some Baseball and Basketball can be a good time as well. Is it a beautiful city. No. Is it thriving. No. Would I leave the area. No.
Think the total population of the metropolitan area has grown over the last 60 years despite losing 50% within the city limits. One thing that would help Dayton a lot is if the Home Rule Law were repealed. Indianapolis 50 years ago was in about the same shape as Dayton and all the other rust-belt cities that had lost jobs. But Indianapolis was able to annex the entire country under their Unigov system and the city has flourished ever since. Imagine Dayton if the tax base included Kettering, Oakwood, Beavercreek, Centerville, and Huber Heights.
Yeah, then Dayton could rob the suburbs blind and drive them into the dirt like it did to its own communities. Sure would be great, wouldn't it? I live in southern Montgomery County. The actual City of Dayton needs to get its house in order, reduce its outlandishly high crime rates, and sort out its own problems before it tries annexing its neighbors... many of which grew in the first place from people fleeing Dayton's failed policies.
@@Ingel_Riday6690 People 'fled' Dayton because there was no housing. We moved to Huber in 1959. After WWII there was a nationwide housing shortage. They started to catch up in the late 50's. So enough of that 'fleeing Dayton' bullshit. I was there; the East End was a solid, blue-collar area that was safe for an 8 year old to ride his bike anywhere. Not going to try and explain the economics of the issue to you; I'm sure it would go over your head.
@@buckfan1969 My family has been in Dayton since 1946. My grandpa was an engineer that moved here to work for GM. They moved into a suburb that had grown up after the 1913 great flood (people looking for higher elevations homes). The suburb then got surrounded by massive amounts of new suburbs as people fled Dayton's busing experiments and mismanagement (aka white flight). There was a Jewish neighborhood on the West Side. It's gone now. They got out. Anyone that could got out. It's not BS. It's just not something you want to admit. Did housing shortages post-WWII play a role, too? Wouldn't say they didn't, but you're painting a much rosier picture than the reality and Dayton's local government is trash. They'd run Montgomery County into the ground if given half the chance, shrieking equity all the while. Edit Addition: I like that you mention the East End, by the way. Yeah, it used to be a nice area. Then anyone that could got out; you don't want to pay higher property taxes in a relatively nicer part of Dayton only for your kid to get bussed to Paul Lawrence Dunbar while someone else's kid takes his place at Belmont. You moved to the suburbs and that didn't happen. Ever. You pay for Vandalia and you get Vandalia. You pay for Oakwood and you get Oakwood. I think it says a lot that Greater Dayton's overall population has been relatively stagnant for almost four decades while the actual City of Dayton has declined precipitously and is now riddled with giant vacant lots where houses once stood. People did flee, and the City of Dayton is having to work overtime to try and tempt them back. Will it work? Who knows. It's a lot better than when I was a child, but it's a crime-ridden nightmare and poorly managed. Letting them pilfer the 'burbs would only give them more cash to squander.
@@Ingel_Riday6690 I left Dayton in 1973. I think what you're describing with the busing, etc. happened after that. The point was that people moved to the suburbs and Dayton lost its tax base. That's when the city started going downhill. The loss of manufacturing across the Rust Belt would have happened if Dayton had had Jesus Christ as City Manager. It's happened in many cities across the country over the last 50 years. I've lived in Detroit; Cincinnati, Indianapolis, Chicago, Minneapolis, and Columbus over the years. The car towns like Dayton, Detroit, and Indy suffered the most. Cities with a broader industrial mix, like Columbus, Cincy, Minneapolis, and Chicago fared better. Indy addressed the problem by annexing the entire county. Helped immensely. It's too bad that's not available for Dayton.
Economy used to be good here for the cost of living. A lot of people were moving here. Not so much now. Cost of living still good but the job market and wages not there.
I've lived in dayton area my whole life, I'm sorry but it's a crap hole. Tons of crime, drugs, still a lot of gang violence and its got tons of abandon houses its just not a great place anymore I'm sorry
Drivers that will not allow you to merge onto the highway. Texting, checking themselves in the mirror, no attention to driving. Then the texting drivers that fly out of the entrance onto 35. Without a thought nearly tearing the passenger side out of your automobile. With barely any traffic to cut in front, across all lanes to the left. I was amazed when I heard local news 5-6 years ago asking for video. To report bad streets?! What! There are news crew vans driving this lunar terrain daily.
The drug trade had nothing to do with the wave of big GOP industry regulations. From as far back as 1900 employers allowed drugs, hookers and gambling to be done without issue. That made the employees happy and production was epic. Drugs have always been in Dayton or Bevearcreek trust me when I tell you that. Often by white males who got the business from their fathers. Cocaine and Heroin have always been present as our research proves. Company doctors cared for hookers used to entertain the men and they had great care while working. Ya cant blame everything on drugs because the blame lies with those who decided to seel out for big $$ just like carrier did when they moved from Indy to Mexico.
If it wasn’t for Wright Patt , we wouldn’t have landed here after 30 years of active duty . We’ve been here for 16 years now and we’ve grown to love this community. It’s pretty much 6 hours from everywhere 😉 . We are pleased with being able to visit family in St Louis, Chicago, Michigan and northern Ohio . Deep rich history lives here in Dayton . God bless 🌹
We ARE THE INVENTION CAPITOL OF THE WORLD WHO MADE THIS? " WHAT HAPPENED MESS. WITHOUT OHIO IT WOULDNT BE R& B MUSIC WE WOULDNT HAVE REFRIGERATION, CASH REGISTERS, THE AIR PLANE, AIR CONDITIONING NOR PLENTY OF OTHER MODERN LUXURIES, WE WOULDA STILL BEEN CRANKING UP.CARS IF CHARLES KETTERING DIDNT MAKE IGNITION STARTERS FOR CARS & sooooo much more .The Wire wheels For cars.. Dayton invented. The aluminum can to make us not drink Coke pepsi out of dangerous glass huge bottles I love it here in Dayton Mary we are glad Wright Patt brought you here......Half the world is Sleeping on Dayton Ohio
@@themagicians1122 Dayton is fasho slept on . Dayton should be more known than what it is . Dayton really did a lot and set a lot of trends but we don’t get the credit we deserve. Plus its a ton of famous people who’s from Dayton like the Ohio Players, Paul Laurence Dunbar, Ron Harper, Wright Brothers, Roger Troutman, Nancy Cartwright, Sherri Saum, Dave Chapelle and more. Even John Legend is from nearby Springfield which is considered part of the Dayton Metro Area. Lebron James even lived in Dayton as a young child before moving to Akron. Plus It’s so many NBA & NFL Players who from Dayton I could go on and on 💯👌🏾 . the LA Rams head coach is from Dayton
It's been years and years of poor Democratic leadership in the city that has destroyed Dayton NCR was struggling came to Dayton asking for help telling them in Atlanta was going to give them a tax break date and told him no so they moved.... Closing down then they're killed dating right now the city Democrats including the mayor are trying to sue Wright-Patt for crazy amount of millions of dollars.... They are pushing to build a whole new round of subsidized housing here .. Wright-Patt is already downsized if Dayton were to win this lawsuit they probably would go ahead and just shut the base down .... They spend millions of dollars on water towers that did nothing to boost revenue and they're almost never operational anymore. they built a monument that only someone from here would even understand what it was down there on main Street The Arc of the first flight or whatever the hell it is..... This was the home of the airplane why don't we have a giant airplane I mean Louisville's got a giant bat for Christ's sake..... Piss poor management that's what's wrong with Dayton
But like are you in DAYTON or are you in one of the little HOA communities like kettering, riverside, etc ? Because dayton dayton is still only known for destitution
Not very accurate. GM plants on third st. , two in Moraine, one in Kettering, one in Vandalia, plus Chrysler and Frigidaire made Dayton 2nd only to Detroit in automotive manufacturing jobs, combined with hundreds of small machine shops contracting work from them, creating many many thousands of jobs, made Dayton the most dense manufacturing city per capita in the USA. The loss of GM related jobs and tax revenue was the biggest single factor in Dayton’s decline.
We had a GM plant in Cincinnati too. It was located in Norwood and I believe it closed in 87. My inlaws were from Dayton and they owned Focke's & Sons Co meat processing plant and I think it closed in the 70s. They were known for their Waldorf Hams.
Thanks for confirming this. The video's pronunciation had me so confused I was googling my butt off trying to figure out why it wasn't pronounced the same as Lake Mead!
I live in Kettering. Too many small businessmen have moved from Kettering to avoid their oppressive government. Charles Kettering would be hounded by building inspectors today.
Dayton, Springfield, Urbana, all those towns are just empty shells of once thriving communities. It's really sad what happened when industry left for China
Not to mention the industry that went to Canada and Mexico the number to Ford plant in Lorain ❓❓❓ this is direct result of Richard Nixon's deregulation
Hara arena was a great concert venue. I was at Pantera 101 proof there. Seen tool as well. Awesome shows and the place has great acoustics. I definitely miss the place. It's a vacant lot now
You’ve got that Right! I grew up in southeast Ohio I was told to move here. What a thriving area and great venues. They’re right saying there’s many micro/craft breweries. You have to drink to function, this is no different than back home. With the exception of a much larger scale. Someone said ‘you can’t find a house for $20,000?!’ Just do a search you will find plenty. Some are missing a half their roof, and upstairs ceiling. Wiring, copper plumbing stripped, to renovate would easily cost $125,000. There’s so many vacant destroyed homes, the owners would be fortunate deeding it over to another person. There are plenty ready to be torn down, but there’s no way the grant money. Could possibly cover what truly needs removed.
As an Australian who has now spent some time in Dayton I actually really like the city. The people are some of the friendliest that I have met in the US. The downtown district is really happening and the Arcade is also a great spot. I got to attend the Big Hoopla event this year for March madness and I could really feel the strength of the community spirit. I think there are a lot of positive things to say about Dayton :)
I’m glad you got a good impression. I did some of the electrical work at the arcade. The brutal reality is drugs, murder, theft, and human trafficking are too prevalent here. A guy got sliced up pretty good on his arm leaving work from the construction of the arcade. I suppose anywhere is like that but there is still beauty to be found in the history and the hidden gems of the city. Would love to see the place become a a beacon of positivity and growth for the future generations. And not a major heroin and murder hub for the country.
Ella, As a native born Ohioan I’m wondering if you gave up your dual citizenship. If you still have it and want a taker please send a message. Most commonly referred to as the ‘Rust Belt’ do some TH-cam searches for an eye opening look.
You all might laugh about why I moved to Dayton from Los Angeles, California a year ago... I honestly know a good thing when I see one. I've read plenty of posts here and most are true and some are just being a bit harsh. I can't compare Dayton to Los Angeles because Dayton is NOT the right city to pin up against a behemoth of a city. I'm NOT here to defend Los Angeles as this is about Dayton... This city has so much potential. I had read alot about Dayton and what happened to it before I bought a house here and moved. I'm not going to get heavy into all the negatives and positives about the place, but there is definitely something good occurring here and it shows. The downtown may look and feel empty, but it's not ugly or trashed/dirty. It's far from looking like Detroit, too. I find there are more good neighborhoods in this city than there are bad. So far, one year living here, I really like it. I can't really point my finger what it is about this city, but it's growing on me. It's a handsome city (you can laugh) and it's far from being a dead place. I love it's history and the numerous inventions born here. This city deserves a lot more respect.
Welcome! Glad you came out here to the Rust Belt to join in the fun, lol! (I live in Yellow Springs---but have also lived in and around Dayton, worked in the Oregon District and done live theatre too.)
Have you been you any of the local eating spots? There's a street where most the UD students hang out and live by. It's called Brown St. And has lots of places to eat and shop. You should check it out if you haven't already
Having been stationed at Terminal Island, USCG CHASE, Basically Long Beach, I can definitely understand! Dayton area was a Good Place to Grow up in! They used to have a Great/Good Hockey Team. Long Time ago! At least there's a Cabela's near by! PRAISE GOD AND HAVE A GOOD ONE!
You are so correct, Ohio is the 4th most regulated state in the nation, NY, Cal, Illinois are ahead of Ohio, Think about that, and the # 5 state has 100 fewer regs than Ohio, Taxes are too high, gas/fuel tax one of the highest in the nation, AND the roads are AWFUL, was born in Dayton and lived off and on there most of my life, Leadership has destroyed Ohio and especially Dayton, unlike places like Youngstown, Dayton was a very diverse economy. So Sad, NEED to DEMAND 1st class leadership???? You got to ask yourself, why would i live here if i could live in Tx, Fla,???
@@rafaelartavia2289 Absolutely. I'm originally from Cincy and the Dayton(west side) and many other areas throughout Dayton looks as if a nuke has been dropped on it. I'm a Kettering resident and I've never seen anything like it before. It makes me want to run for office.
I'm not even from Ohio but moved up here with my father when I was 16. It's been 13 years since. I chose to permanently stay here and even bought a nice house on the east side and there is plenty to do around here. It has gotten a lot better. It used to be trashy but now days it seems a lot cleaner. Now if they can fix there roads then I would be truly happy.
Ohio was just chosen to have Intel be made here. Several other companies that make biomedical engineering devices also are here now. God bless the Gem 💎 City ❤️
After 4 years of MAGA winning surprised Dayton isn't in better shape. Hey did you hear that the Obama care replacement plan will be here in 2 and a 1/2 weeks? LOL
Dayton was the Silicon Valley of its day. From Dayton local public radio, WYSO: "In the early 1900s, Dayton became the invention capital of the United States, with the most patents per capita. From the end of the 19th century through the 20th century, the city's influential inventions included the airplane, the cash register, the self-starting ignition for automobiles, and the pop top beverage can. The long list of inventions also includes the electric wheelchair, the stepladder and the parking meter". Dayton's influence continues today with creations of the Boolean search engine for computer search use, and the creation of the practical LCD screen in use today. With places like Air Force Research Lab and AF Institute of Technology fueling local private tech companies, Dayton's resurgence from the 70s and 80s continues
Dayton may have been bigger in the past but it was always a fairly dreary and rough city even back in the 1950s when I was growing up. A lot of Dayton's criminality has been bleeding over to and harming surrounding communities for decades. I avoided going there back then and still do to this day. Wright-Patterson AFB is close to but not a part of Dayton and is actually located some miles away in another county (Greene County). What happened to Dayton started far longer ago than the early 2000s.
The birthplace of Guided by Voices, Kim and Kelly Deal of the Pixies and The Breeders and many other great musicians. The people here are real. Great punk scene in the early 90's as well. Lots of culture here if you know where to look. That, and lots of invention and innovation has come out of this city. Some great people here.
Spent five years in Dayton. You missed mentioning its biggest asset, the nicest people in all of the US. Kind, generous, welcoming, hard working, Dayton has them all. The comment about taxes is correct. City taxes too high coupled with a State Income tax. Retirees leave if they can so one can live better on less income. I miss Dayton and it’s people!
@@jillybean15894 I just moved here almost a year ago from Hawaii. Why do people keep saying it's lousy weather! Having all four seasons is AMAZING! Grass is always greener on the other side.
@@zpclosangelesgraffiticafe I'm 34 and single as well. I would say absolutely but it depends. My brother lives in Los Angeles and I visit there often. Be prepared for some culture shock and losing out on some things that you had in a big city, but if you are very adaptable and are able to find the positive things and not focus on the negatives than you will really love the move. Affordability alone is worth it but you also have to consider things like having to remake friends in a new area which can be really tough at first. You should definitely seek out some kind of community to find new friends and relationships if you are coming by yourself. It's totally worth it in the end imo though. Also do your homework. The area I live in is extremely safe and full of great people, but not all neighborhoods are like that.
Downtown is also a big lost no stores to shop the arcade is just being used for university Dayton students and alumni if you don't drink just bars and Apt buildings 4 Restaurant's I Eat at needs more shopping centers
Lots of really wonderful things in Dayton but it is the most depressed city I've ever lived in and the future planning seems misdirected, at best. Damn shame. There is incredible potential here if small business development and forward-thinking growth modeling replaced the tired reliance on major corporations and chain businesses to grow the economy. That said, until the city proper reckons the economic and socioeconomic disparity between the city's east and west sides there's little hope for an equitable sustainable future for all residents.
Democrat leadership will continue to push diversity just for diversity's sake and the few remaining nice towns in Dayton will turn to shit like all of the others that are riddled with crime and drugs.
Coulda been 3 minutes solid of back-to-back nation-changing firsts mentioned here. Inventions, events, groups, music, societal firsts.... Dayton went so hard for a long time. There's something in the water around here for sure there's been some incredible stuff come out of Dayton. Lots of money going around here you just have to know where to look. Very attractive for small businesses- lots of support put on through Montgomery County. Harrison Township has an as-high crime rate per-capita than any major big ghetto city, Washington Township has the lowest and is nick-named the land of milk and honey. I love Dayton. You can't be soft around here but you bet you can learn anything about life within 20 minutes of it. Farms, industry, extreme tech, military, weapons, healthcare, transportation.. it's all still here just not as much in some cases. Forgot to mention how it's the most prime location in the nation to reach over half the population of the country within a day's drive for trucking companies... GM being the sell-outs they've always been was the last straw for most of the area. Tons and tons of opportunity if you want to put in the work- dozens of trade-based construction companies, landscaping companies, house-keeping services, small businesses of many many kinds are so busy they turn down customers. Real-estate is booming.. I mean, I could thrown together a 30 minute video of just how ham Dayton has went and still goes. There's a reason why some of the greatest minds on Earth have been from Dayton- we aren't the same from around here.
Dayton is just a skeleton left of what it was. My parents and grandparents have told me many times throughout the years about how it used to be. I had multiple family members that moved to the Dayton area from Kentucky just to work at GM. Many good paying union jobs throughout different manufacturing sectors all gone. The farm I grew up on was bought with McCalls and GM money. All my family members that had the big nice houses, farms, properties all worked at GM. Including the others mentioned, losing the GM plants along with all the many other jobs that depended on them destroyed the city.
So very true. I had an appointment with a lawyer to settle mom’s estate, sixty of her 83 years in the area, grew up inner city after the war, and we were raised in western Dayton. It deteriorated after the racial violence in mid to late sixties and early seventies and we left town for the new suburban areas north, then clear away in the country. I’m not sure if the city can come back, some areas downtown quirky and fun, but huge areas completely blighted and abandoned. And the hospital mergers took old traditional families out of neighborhoods nearer to town and quite exclusive years ago. The southern suburban areas and base looking aged, and lots of empty buildings, while a county south is more like Cincy and growing. Dayton and Montgomery county are in a bad spiral, don’t expect much to recover.
I guess you missed all the new apartments and condo's that are being built downtown, especially around the Baseball stadium. Ever been to a Dragon's Game? Great family fun!
There's actually another museum, Carillon Park, that also focusses a lot on Dayton's history, including a pop-tab exhibit and an entire building dedicated to the Wrights Bros. It's got a lot there, but it's still pretty cool.
Miamisburg and sorrounding, I’m a local business owner. Check out our shop for any window or glass needs. We are in the original star city hardware building. Star Windows!
@@elbob17 all the immigrants love Dayton. Take a ride around East Dayton one day, you’ll see why most of the whites are starting to move to West Dayton or the surrounding areas. White Flight in East Dayton is a real problem in current days.
Mike Turner was mayor for ten years starting in the mid 90s. He's now your Congressional leader, and has been for since 2003. He's a Republican. So, it looks like you are either a liar, don't know what your talking about, or both.
@@Y2Krieger awe the 90s when G.M. Dephi, NCR, Standard Register, Panasonic etc. before they were taxed out of the state. Please explain how awesome it is do business in this sanctuary city, meanwhile trying to keep people here with the highest property tax rate in the country, lowest quality of education, 3rd highest crime rate in the state. It's amazing here !
@Claw Shooter lol, so your saying Dayton was shit from the 70s, great in the 90s-early 2000s (because 'R') and then back to shit? You're telling me, these companies left Dayton (and the entire state) because of a 1% difference in property tax? Most larger cities have ~2٪ tax rates. They didn't close/leave because of a massive recession? Again, you seem to rail against how shitty Western Ohio still is, yet you keep your representation the same for 20-30 years.
I came from Norway back in the 90's been (wife is from here) living in a couple of suburbs of Dayton, and now just south of the city. I like it her; people are very friendly, easy to get anywhere with several airports not far away. I lived a lot in FL because of work, if you dream of a FL lifestyle, you must consider what you have here in Ohio, OH is a very nice state to live in. Now with many companies accepting home offices, OH is an awesome place to live. Given the opportunity, I will live the rest of my days here.
Dayton native here, pretty much nailed it. Another big blow was the loss of a huge GM plant.
Plant (s)
And y'all still buying their garbage vehicles
Due by union.
@@rafaelartavia2289 done by globalism
NCR, Delco-Moraine and Chrysler Air-temp losses really hurt. I had forgotten about Mead Paper.
Losing the SAC Wing unit out of Wright-Patt didn't help either. Fairborn just dried up after that.
Dayton native. St. Elizabeth's hospital born. You didn't state anything that I found to be overwhelmingly false however,you didn't mention the city's biggest detriment: DRUGS!! We're the intersection of I-75 & I-70. For those that are geographical knowledge deficient,that's 2 roads that connect Miami,Florida to Detroit,Michigan & Los Angeles to D.C. need I say more? Its heartbreaking. Much like the rest of the U.S.,you'd be hard pressed to find ONE family that hasn't been devastated or negatively effected by drugs here. Its only getting worse
I am now 86 y.o. I worked for NCR from 1957-1967. Dayton residents refereed to NCR as "The Cash." I attended NCR training classes for many months off and on through the late fifties to early sixties. I really liked living in Dayton. Actually, if Dayton was now like it was in the early sixties, I'd still love to be living there - cheering on the Dayton Flyers. (They had some really good BB teams back then.) NCR was non union while other big employers, GM, for example, were union. Union workers snickered at we NCR employees. Of course, we know what the corporations do - they move their manufacturing to ANYWHERE that is less expensive, e.g. non-union.
The strong unions may have been part of the cause for Dayton to lose NCR and GM.
NCR was slow to adjust to the new high tech world and that certainly added to their demise as a manufacturer of computers, etc.
Worked at Mead not Med right out of high school. Surprised you didn't mention the multiple GM plants. Whole communities grew around each one. I know there was at least four large separate plants. Also known for the funk bands that originated here. We also had a downtown theater that was famous for the Kenley Players, so many actors came to town to do stage acting, especially I know the 1960s. Early arena musicians came to have concerts at Hara Arena, Elvis, Johnny Cash to name a couple. Hopefully we can become a bustling area once again. Most living here don't plan on leaving either way. The Gem City is our hometown.
Very well said🙂
Delco was the most well known divisions of GM in Dayton. The name Delco came from the Dayton Engineering Laboratories Co., founded in Dayton, Ohio, by Charles Kettering and Edward A. Deeds in 1909. Delco was responsible for several innovations in automobile electric systems, including the first reliable battery ignition system and the first practical automobile self-starter.
I heard that and was like "Hmmm, I went my entire life thinking it was Mead as in Meed."
We had fabulous jazz acts at Gilly's. Salem Ave used to be bustling and beautiful. Good Samaritan and St Elizabeth hospitals were needed, now they're gone... Lots has been lost. I miss those days.
Oh we loved the Kenley Players!! In the early & mid 1970s
We wld come stay at the Mall Moter inn Hotel (where RTA hub is now) & that's where all the actors wld stay too!! We wld swim w them on the roof pool & my brothers wld get paid to walk the star's dogs! LOL! My mom started dating Glen Campbell's Stand in(& he looked like Glen Campbell too!!)
I've met Barbara Eden (she played Maria in Sound of Music!) I've met Lucy Arnez (Lucille Ball & Desi Arnez Daughter) she played the princess in The Princess & The Pea play
Oh We met Her mother Lucille Ball at Marians Pizza for the Cast Party!! We wld stay at the Mall Moter Inn hotel for the opening night and then come back & stay the wkend for the final run the final performance & cast party at Marians Pizza so that way we lived w them, we watched em work then we ate w em!! So many stars! It was my mom's way of getting over a divorce from an air force officer and she being from Chicago & we living in Fairborn (we did live in officer housing on base) my mom thought Fairborn was too small town for her so she loved taking us kids to Dayton to see the Kenley Players at memorial Hall!! Those were great memories!! Thanks for the reminder !!
Blessings !!
Nice video. Born and raised here in Dayton. It's sad this used to be an awesome place. The east.and.westside of Dayton are.disturbing to see. Poverty and bad choices and poor leadership has dragged this place thru the ringer. I miss those days and there is some changes taking place. But these so called leaders are a not funny JOKE!
I'm from Dayton, went to Stiver's in the 60s. Things went downhill in the 70s. Liberals took over after the 68 riots and it's been a crime ridden city ever since. Loved Dayton in the 60s left in 75.
@@exit5620 blame the liberals! Of course! I know where you were on Jan 6th last year! Yeehahahaaaa!
@@WilliamXLee I'm surprised your mother told you?
Yep. Typical dem city. Lived in Dayton my whole life. Filthy shame how it’s rotting away after such a beautiful rich history
@@exit5620 I feel that if Dayton’s Mayor is a conservative Dayton would prob be better than now
Also known as the Funk Capital of the World due to many funk bands from Dayton like the Ohio Players , Heatwave and Zapp
Dayton?! Jesus i lived here my whole life and never heard that, thanks for the interesting tidbit
@c-dogg91 Absolutely
Seen ohio players, Bill Withers, and some o there great groups at u.d arena for a soul and blus festival in the 70's.
@@bobdavidson9770 Nice 🙂
That’s right !!! I loved the Ohio Players ! ( I’m showing my age now ) great point my friend!
They were trying to make Cincinnati Dayton a metro-plex. Combining the two city complex into a single area! It still might happen and would save Dayton.
Need a subway or high speed rail
They are growing closer and closer together
Thats a 1 way traffic ordeal. Dayton has nothing exclusive to offer that Cincinnati doesnt have
@@Carbiniz3r Dayton Springfield do. Young's, Guerras krazy tacos and speakeasy ramen both highest rated in the whole region both called vest in state, Dayton has some really incredible authentic mexican, and I think a far superior musuem.
It's currently happening. Thats why Dayton is experiencing the largest development of real estate right now in its history.
I read that at the turn of the 20th century, Dayton was the leader in patents produced. Dayton is also the home of Chewy, a pet product company that is very large .....
I'm from Cleveland, Ohio originally, but I have made Columbus, Ohio my home since 1977. I'm an artist, and as such I was able to exhibit in Dayton, in Cleveland, Cincinnati, Canton, and in other mid-western cities. In Detroit, and in Indianapolis. Now way back in the 1980s, before and during the times I was exhibiting there,...Dayton was enjoying much revitalization. New "hip" places to dine, drink, see Art,...& listen to music, were sprouting up everywhere. They even have an Art Institute that many attend. I hope it didn't go back down hill after those years. We enjoyed ourselves there, and found it a place one might want to move to. Of course since then, Columbus has really grown a lot, and may be hippest place in Ohio, in 2022.
I've restored houses here in Dayton with some of the nicest craftsmanship in tile, wood etc. And gota say you should come out here and hangout with us sometime it's a beautiful place
I’ve only been to Dayton a handful of times for my annual pilgrimage to WGI finals. Doesn’t seem like there’s a lot going on there outside of that weekend. But you guys have a nice aerospace museum - I got to see the SR-71 flight suit my grandpa worked to develop.
Industry moved out, then it went through rough times, then the Detroit mob moved in and pushed out the Chicago mob and recruited the gangs they didnt kill off. They are big on stability and steady income, so Dayton is alot safer now. Been here for 20 years.
Not much heavy industry in Dayton?
Is Dayton a rust belt city?
Another factor in the decline of Dayton has been the educational tradition of Industrial Age high wealth families of Dayton. They often sent their children to East Coast boarding schools. The Pattersons, Meads, Talbotts, Shaws, etc. and even high wealth families today have practiced this. As young adults these offspring have often remained on the coasts and invested there as adults because they have limited Dayton connections after growing-up on the coasts. Cincinnati has had Summit Country Day, Country Day, St. Xavier, Ursuline Academy, Seven Hills School (and now Cincinnati Hills Christian Academy) for many years and it was/is rare for Cincinnati elite families to attend high school or earlier in the East. That has helped to keep old money investments in Cincinnati and has been a tailwind to a thriving middle market sector. Dayton remained more dependent on large corporates to provide jobs and prosperity. If they leave for college there is a much better chance they return than when they leave town for high school. Dayton has Miami Valley School since 1964 but that has a particular appeal that doesn’t cover the spectrum of political and religious philosophies that the 5 elite schools in Cincy do.
What about oakwood? I don’t recall lots of people there moving away for k-12.
I'm a Michigan native (michigander). Moved here in 2014, graduated from Centerville in 2018, enlisted in the Air Force in 2019 and got put right back here 🤣. Its a great area to raise a family and settle down. Theres a lot to love about Dayton and the surrounding cities. Alot of people are moving away. Montgomery County covers most of Dayton and its surroundings and is also the highest taxed county in the state. Other than that, I really enjoy the area.
Still an amazing city with tons of culture. And Mead is pronounced “meed.”
I have so many coworkers from Dayton and they always say it's worth the miles to drive to Cincinnati everyday for their job because there's no jobs in Dayton. Heartbreaking. I don't understand why they just won't move here instead of wasting all that gas money
Keep in mind KY residents drove to Dayton daily to work in factories after WWII. Some did rent apartments and return to their wives in KY on the weekends.
@@larrymaloney877 wow I didn't know that
@@glorfindelchocolateflowery6392 , today many of us are of "Appalachian extraction:)"
Lots of newer jobs in warehouses and distribution, but not the volume or income potential to rebuild the area. I75/70 interchange busy, but many roads and bridges in poor repair, needed more GM jobs to return than did, and fulfillment jobs paying way low.
@@cindyfavorite195 gas prices don't help either😔😔 the government knows us ohioans are dirt poor 🤣🤣 don't understand why they can't help the citizens of Cincinnati and Dayton with these income problems among other things..
The Wright Brothers first flight was in Dayton. The first recorded flight was at Kitty Hawk.
Turned down a IT job offer from Mead in 1984 and a move to Dayton. The Mead office building was impressive. Expensive and unionized labor in the area eventually were the downfall of many industries.
Dayton itself is a shit hole in my opinion. I live south of dayton and hear nothing but drugs murders theft and all the usual stuff. Dayton died when all the machine shops and manufacturing left
Dayton native , 47 now living in Columbus Ohio fir 8 years now , though only 90 minutes away sits like a different country compared to my hometown.
I'm an alumni of Wright State University---which has gained positive National recognition is several areas of learning, over the decades. One other renovation not included in this nice short video has to do with the Performing Arts! There are several large venues for large touring companies including musicals and concerts---plus several excellent local professional live theatres and the Dayton Contemporary Dance Company (DCDC) and Dayton Orchestra. The Dayton Institute of Art is very nice museum with both permanent exhibits and again, exhibits that tour the country. There's more to Dayton than meets the eye. The Miami River and Riverscape in Downtown are quite lovely as well. Sure-----the city still has MAJOR economic problems, but it ain't dead yet!
If you do Cincinnati, talk about the forgotten underground subway.
I'm an ex Daytonian. What happened to Dayton is pretty simple. The industry shut down, All the money people left. Slums started popping up everywhere. Anyone who could afford to do it either moved to the suburbs or left the area. Drugs became rampant. That's what happened to Dayton!
"Slums?" Are you an idiot?
Lived in Dayton proper my whole life. And for what it is, it's an awful city. Our roads are falling apart, needles are just left in the streets, our homeless population is known for its aggressive panhandling, and you just get used to the sound of gun fire. Cars are regularly broken into and stolen. The police are unresponsive, and it's literally just not safe to take a walk around the house. Those who like to romanticize Dayton usually don't live in the city, but one of the outlying cities like Kettering, Centerville, or Beavercreek. It tries and fails to offer big city life, with little to do other than our so so minor league baseball team. My advice, if you ever get the chance to visit Dayton, go to Cincinnati or Columbus instead. The best thing about Dayton is the beer, which says something about Dayton. If your stuck here, the alcohol will easy that pain, but to you really want to go some place where drugs (alcohol) and healthcare are really the only highlights? Oh, and I didn't say good healthcare, just... Lots of healthcare. You can't go 2 miles without a Kettering health network or Premiere health building in sight. And if you do visit Dayton, drive down into Oakwood and look at all the doctors houses. (Search Hills and Dales park) and keep driving on that street and take pictures of the wealth. Good times!
The drinking water in Dayton, Ohio is crap. Not fit to drink period. Ever since Sherwin Williams Warehouse had a fire that was located on top of the acufier the water has been unfit to drink, and hasn't gotten any better. In fact its gotten worse.
To clarify, It is Mead as in Read. Not Mead as in Read. For example, "I Read this book". Not "I Read this book".
I hope that helped.
Read as in present tense, or past tense??
Sorry...
@@DanEBoyd Yes.
Two words:Rhine McLin.
937 born and raised...READY TO GO
🤔 Dayton growing up we would travel 7o West from Cbus. Had a lot of good times there . Hopefully Dayton can bounce back " Gem City " 😁
I was born and raised in Dayton Ohio. Will let me phrase that as my street got incorporated into Dayton Ohio. It was called Mad River Township at the time. I’m fifty now. And I live in Baton Rouge Louisiana. I left 13 years ago. But I didn’t leave because of the city I left to be closer to my family preferably my son. I saw the downfall of Dayton in the early 90s when the defense contractors more preferably called “DECE”. They left the area under the Clinton administration when they shut down several Air Force Base and defense contractors. And then the biggest downfall of them all was the auto industry. Those two devastated the town. And then of course NCR moving its operations to Atlanta at the time during all of this but still kept a footprint in Dayton. I ran a restaurant in downtown Dayton at the turn of the century in downtown was almost literally empty. The biggest travesty of all is the arcade building downtown Dayton. It is left empty since the mid-80s and nobody has said anything with that property cents in it was gorgeous at its heyday. But they’re right Dayton is on the rise because of Healthcare and the new baseball stadium downtown along with the building of the Schuster center with the Rikes building being torn down. There is revitalization in Greene County one County over but it’s still considered the date metropolitan area. So it’s on its rise. It will always be my hometown and I will always wanted to see it succeed. I just hate nickname for our town which is called “little Detroit”. That stigmatism needs to be gone immediately.
Ik it's a weird choice but I'm actually vacationing in Dayton this summer. I'm really excited as I've never really spent more time there than a drive by on the way to other places.
Im born and raised in east Dayton. Its by far not what it used to be. Its getting worse every year. No good paying jobs anymore and half my friends are dead from drug overdose. Dayton is a shit whole. I moved out of Dayton few years ago. Dayton used to be a good place but its a shit whole now
Dayton is part of the drug highway and has the most OD deaths in the country.
Beavercreek is starting to have a drug problem as well mother got almost mugged and we live in a pretty good neighborhood as well.
I still feel Dayton is a decent place to live in, but idk..I’m skeptical but Dayton is progressing.
Please, more city videos like this!
Dayton will begin to grow as the Columbus and Cincinnati Metro areas keep expanding.
Nan is the latest to ruin Dayton
Why do people keep referring to Meeeeeed Paper as “Med”? Ridiculous.
Democrats...unions..same thing. When will this city learn? Worst schools in Ohio. Democrats and unions again.
a lot of big cities in ohio have fallen to the same thing and same fate. youngstown is another example.
The city of Dayton may have declined but the suburbs surrounding the Wright-Patt AFB just outside the city are growing fast. Wright-Patt is THE largest AFB in the United States by personnel and every large aerospace company and many many smaller ones are located here. Tons of high paying aerospace and military tech jobs are here and more keep coming. I love living in the Dayton area.
Travelled the whole world, it's always nice to come home to Dayton. There are really about a million people here, living in the suburbs they get around. I think there are too many people living here, all of the exits get backed up for a mile every day during rush hour. Forget trying to do errands between 3-6pm, traffic is so thick with Dayton natives
1966 race riots. Killed Dayton. Been downhill ever since.
Good analysis but you failed to mention PHP or Sinclair in a video about Dayton. We've definitely seen better times but Dayton still has awesome food and up until PHP and KMC started buying out all the small doctors, we had pretty good healthcare too. It's a decent place to own real estate, depending on the area of Dayton.
I agree. Have 2 Sinclair degrees and it is an amazing college. Lowest tuition in the state. $100 a credit hour. Everything remodeled and new.
@@phoenixrising441 it was $45 per credit hour back when I was going. You're right that they have up to date equipment but their professors have always been their biggest assets.
Most people that have money will not live in Dayton!
I live in Dayton right now. They've got Fuyao Glass here now, employing people. Drugs have all but destroyed Dayton as well. I'm a recovering dope addict, and I live in sober living now. I've been clean for 14 months. Drugs are what got me here in the first place. At least they do have a lot of resources for addicts and low income people. I've been stuck here for 8 years, and am trying to move out eventually. I used to loathe it here, and call it a toxic cesspool of shit, but it's kind of grown on me now.
Fuyao pays half the salaries GM paid. And their profit goes to communist China.
Some factories leaving here, poor leadership there (one instance happens to be running for Governor). A bit of heroin over here, some shootings over there.
I live in the suburbs of Dayton in Beavercreek. For all we make fun of the absolutely abysmal schooling in Dayton, and the drugs, everyone around here does like the city. Going to the Oregon district and getting some food is always a good time. Going to some Baseball and Basketball can be a good time as well.
Is it a beautiful city. No. Is it thriving. No. Would I leave the area. No.
I’m staying in Dayton for the summer to spend time with my kid. It is both very beautiful and very spooky.
I don’t care what happened to Dayton. I JUST WANNA KNOW WHY people driving like they have no sense.
Rad Girlfriend Records makes me want to visit Dayton. The city has produced some great bands.
Think the total population of the metropolitan area has grown over the last 60 years despite losing 50% within the city limits. One thing that would help Dayton a lot is if the Home Rule Law were repealed. Indianapolis 50 years ago was in about the same shape as Dayton and all the other rust-belt cities that had lost jobs. But Indianapolis was able to annex the entire country under their Unigov system and the city has flourished ever since. Imagine Dayton if the tax base included Kettering, Oakwood, Beavercreek, Centerville, and Huber Heights.
Yeah, then Dayton could rob the suburbs blind and drive them into the dirt like it did to its own communities. Sure would be great, wouldn't it?
I live in southern Montgomery County. The actual City of Dayton needs to get its house in order, reduce its outlandishly high crime rates, and sort out its own problems before it tries annexing its neighbors... many of which grew in the first place from people fleeing Dayton's failed policies.
@@Ingel_Riday6690 People 'fled' Dayton because there was no housing. We moved to Huber in 1959. After WWII there was a nationwide housing shortage. They started to catch up in the late 50's. So enough of that 'fleeing Dayton' bullshit. I was there; the East End was a solid, blue-collar area that was safe for an 8 year old to ride his bike anywhere. Not going to try and explain the economics of the issue to you; I'm sure it would go over your head.
@@buckfan1969 My family has been in Dayton since 1946. My grandpa was an engineer that moved here to work for GM. They moved into a suburb that had grown up after the 1913 great flood (people looking for higher elevations homes). The suburb then got surrounded by massive amounts of new suburbs as people fled Dayton's busing experiments and mismanagement (aka white flight).
There was a Jewish neighborhood on the West Side. It's gone now. They got out. Anyone that could got out. It's not BS. It's just not something you want to admit.
Did housing shortages post-WWII play a role, too? Wouldn't say they didn't, but you're painting a much rosier picture than the reality and Dayton's local government is trash. They'd run Montgomery County into the ground if given half the chance, shrieking equity all the while.
Edit Addition: I like that you mention the East End, by the way. Yeah, it used to be a nice area. Then anyone that could got out; you don't want to pay higher property taxes in a relatively nicer part of Dayton only for your kid to get bussed to Paul Lawrence Dunbar while someone else's kid takes his place at Belmont. You moved to the suburbs and that didn't happen. Ever. You pay for Vandalia and you get Vandalia. You pay for Oakwood and you get Oakwood.
I think it says a lot that Greater Dayton's overall population has been relatively stagnant for almost four decades while the actual City of Dayton has declined precipitously and is now riddled with giant vacant lots where houses once stood. People did flee, and the City of Dayton is having to work overtime to try and tempt them back. Will it work? Who knows. It's a lot better than when I was a child, but it's a crime-ridden nightmare and poorly managed. Letting them pilfer the 'burbs would only give them more cash to squander.
@@Ingel_Riday6690 I left Dayton in 1973. I think what you're describing with the busing, etc. happened after that. The point was that people moved to the suburbs and Dayton lost its tax base. That's when the city started going downhill. The loss of manufacturing across the Rust Belt would have happened if Dayton had had Jesus Christ as City Manager. It's happened in many cities across the country over the last 50 years. I've lived in Detroit; Cincinnati, Indianapolis, Chicago, Minneapolis, and Columbus over the years. The car towns like Dayton, Detroit, and Indy suffered the most. Cities with a broader industrial mix, like Columbus, Cincy, Minneapolis, and Chicago fared better. Indy addressed the problem by annexing the entire county. Helped immensely. It's too bad that's not available for Dayton.
I'm from dayton but I moved bout 6 years ago still my home though
Economy used to be good here for the cost of living. A lot of people were moving here. Not so much now. Cost of living still good but the job market and wages not there.
I've lived in dayton area my whole life, I'm sorry but it's a crap hole. Tons of crime, drugs, still a lot of gang violence and its got tons of abandon houses its just not a great place anymore I'm sorry
Mead is pronounced meed
The City has NO Passenger 🚃🚂 TRAIN Service !!!
A great place to live. ❤️
When the top employers are all the government that's a bad economic sign.
Without WPAFB Dayton would be a ghost town.
Im from and live in dayton, i hate it help me get out
cia crack cocaine happen to the city I can bear witness .
Dayton's coming back.. No doubt.. 💯♥
Facts 💯💯💯
Right. Dayton has been coming back for fifty years. Let me know when it arrives so I can watch the parade.
What's up other fellow Dayton dwellers. Go to 2nd Time Around for classic video game fun stuff (not sponsored I just really like that place)
Dayton is also directly next to two of the longest interstate highways in America. Drug trade really screwed us
Drivers that will not allow you to merge onto the highway. Texting, checking themselves in the mirror, no attention to driving.
Then the texting drivers that fly out of the entrance onto 35. Without a thought nearly tearing the passenger side out of your automobile.
With barely any traffic to cut in front, across all lanes to the left.
I was amazed when I heard local news 5-6 years ago asking for video.
To report bad streets?!
What!
There are news crew vans driving this lunar terrain daily.
We have the same problem in SLC. We have I80 and I15 crossing there.
The drug trade had nothing to do with the wave of big GOP industry regulations. From as far back as 1900 employers allowed drugs, hookers and gambling to be done without issue. That made the employees happy and production was epic. Drugs have always been in Dayton or Bevearcreek trust me when I tell you that. Often by white males who got the business from their fathers. Cocaine and Heroin have always been present as our research proves. Company doctors cared for hookers used to entertain the men and they had great care while working. Ya cant blame everything on drugs because the blame lies with those who decided to seel out for big $$ just like carrier did when they moved from Indy to Mexico.
And s*x trafficking is horrible in that area as well
Yes,read the book by Gary Webb " Freeway " Rick Ross was in the area selling crack rat poison real cheap.
If it wasn’t for Wright Patt , we wouldn’t have landed here after 30 years of active duty . We’ve been here for 16 years now and we’ve grown to love this community. It’s pretty much 6 hours from everywhere 😉 . We are pleased with being able to visit family in St Louis, Chicago, Michigan and northern Ohio . Deep rich history lives here in Dayton . God bless 🌹
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WHO MADE THIS? " WHAT HAPPENED MESS.
WITHOUT OHIO IT WOULDNT BE R& B MUSIC
WE WOULDNT HAVE REFRIGERATION, CASH REGISTERS, THE AIR PLANE, AIR CONDITIONING NOR PLENTY OF OTHER MODERN LUXURIES, WE WOULDA STILL BEEN CRANKING UP.CARS IF CHARLES KETTERING DIDNT MAKE IGNITION STARTERS FOR CARS & sooooo much more .The Wire wheels For cars..
Dayton invented. The aluminum can to make us not drink Coke pepsi out of dangerous glass huge bottles
I love it here in Dayton
Mary we are glad Wright Patt brought you here......Half the world is Sleeping on Dayton Ohio
@@themagicians1122 Dayton is fasho slept on . Dayton should be more known than what it is . Dayton really did a lot and set a lot of trends but we don’t get the credit we deserve. Plus its a ton of famous people who’s from Dayton like the Ohio Players, Paul Laurence Dunbar, Ron Harper, Wright Brothers, Roger Troutman, Nancy Cartwright, Sherri Saum, Dave Chapelle and more. Even John Legend is from nearby Springfield which is considered part of the Dayton Metro Area. Lebron James even lived in Dayton as a young child before moving to Akron. Plus It’s so many NBA & NFL Players who from Dayton I could go on and on 💯👌🏾 . the LA Rams head coach is from Dayton
We .are the invention capital
It's been years and years of poor Democratic leadership in the city that has destroyed Dayton NCR was struggling came to Dayton asking for help telling them in Atlanta was going to give them a tax break date and told him no so they moved.... Closing down then they're killed dating right now the city Democrats including the mayor are trying to sue Wright-Patt for crazy amount of millions of dollars.... They are pushing to build a whole new round of subsidized housing here .. Wright-Patt is already downsized if Dayton were to win this lawsuit they probably would go ahead and just shut the base down .... They spend millions of dollars on water towers that did nothing to boost revenue and they're almost never operational anymore. they built a monument that only someone from here would even understand what it was down there on main Street The Arc of the first flight or whatever the hell it is..... This was the home of the airplane why don't we have a giant airplane I mean Louisville's got a giant bat for Christ's sake..... Piss poor management that's what's wrong with Dayton
But like are you in DAYTON or are you in one of the little HOA communities like kettering, riverside, etc ? Because dayton dayton is still only known for destitution
Not very accurate. GM plants on third st. , two in Moraine, one in Kettering, one in Vandalia, plus Chrysler and Frigidaire made Dayton 2nd only to Detroit in automotive manufacturing jobs, combined with hundreds of small machine shops contracting work from them, creating many many thousands of jobs, made Dayton the most dense manufacturing city per capita in the USA. The loss of GM related jobs and tax revenue was the biggest single factor in Dayton’s decline.
You nailed it. And nobody seems to have mentioned the benefits of having half of much traffic on the roads and a lot less smog also.
You nailed it... very well said!
Yes.
We had a GM plant in Cincinnati too. It was located in Norwood and I believe it closed in 87. My inlaws were from Dayton and they owned Focke's & Sons Co meat processing plant and I think it closed in the 70s. They were known for their Waldorf Hams.
What happened is durable manufacturing has gone overseas, and liberal policies
Also a big impact was the closure of the GM and Delphi plants in the area in the 2000's
Mead Paper was pronounced like “meeed”. Good video.
Thanks for confirming this. The video's pronunciation had me so confused I was googling my butt off trying to figure out why it wasn't pronounced the same as Lake Mead!
Dayton had a ton of inventors as well. Tool and die was a huge part of Dayton back in the day.
in 1950,s Dayton was indeed called the tool and die capital of the world.
I live in Kettering. Too many small businessmen have moved from Kettering to avoid their oppressive government. Charles Kettering would be hounded by building inspectors today.
Dayton, Springfield, Urbana, all those towns are just empty shells of once thriving communities. It's really sad what happened when industry left for China
Not to mention the industry that went to Canada and Mexico the number to Ford plant in Lorain ❓❓❓ this is direct result of Richard Nixon's deregulation
McCall magazine!!!
@@davidstaudohar8147 unions sent the car industry into the dump
My grandfather retired from McCalls. My grandmother worked at Inland. All gone.
Can’t forget about Middletown/middletucky
I'm from Cincinnati and I would go to Dayton for hara arena to see concerts. I saw pantera and slipknot and nine Inch nails there
Damn, i didn't see any of those guys til i left dayton lol
@@sarbnitrof4663 it was mostly in the 90s
I use to go see the monster trucks at hara
Hara arena was a great concert venue. I was at Pantera 101 proof there. Seen tool as well. Awesome shows and the place has great acoustics. I definitely miss the place. It's a vacant lot now
@@robertbulach86 oh it was my favorite place for the longest time I could easily get down on the floor and no one cared about smoking
As someone from Ohio. The question is more so "what happened to ohio"
No shit
You’ve got that Right! I grew up in southeast Ohio I was told to move here. What a thriving area and great venues. They’re right saying there’s many micro/craft breweries. You have to drink to function, this is no different than back home.
With the exception of a much larger scale.
Someone said ‘you can’t find a house for $20,000?!’ Just do a search you will find plenty. Some are missing a half their roof, and upstairs ceiling. Wiring, copper plumbing stripped, to renovate would easily cost $125,000.
There’s so many vacant destroyed homes, the owners would be fortunate deeding it over to another person.
There are plenty ready to be torn down, but there’s no way the grant money.
Could possibly cover what truly needs removed.
As an Australian who has now spent some time in Dayton I actually really like the city. The people are some of the friendliest that I have met in the US. The downtown district is really happening and the Arcade is also a great spot. I got to attend the Big Hoopla event this year for March madness and I could really feel the strength of the community spirit. I think there are a lot of positive things to say about Dayton :)
You should stop by the Oregon district and the 2nd street market
I grew up in Dayton people are the worst lmao
That’s nice but you didn’t grow up here. Would love to live in Australia
I’m glad you got a good impression. I did some of the electrical work at the arcade. The brutal reality is drugs, murder, theft, and human trafficking are too prevalent here. A guy got sliced up pretty good on his arm leaving work from the construction of the arcade. I suppose anywhere is like that but there is still beauty to be found in the history and the hidden gems of the city. Would love to see the place become a a beacon of positivity and growth for the future generations. And not a major heroin and murder hub for the country.
Ella,
As a native born Ohioan I’m wondering if you gave up your dual citizenship.
If you still have it and want a taker please send a message.
Most commonly referred to as the ‘Rust Belt’ do some TH-cam searches for an eye opening look.
Air Force museum is cool
It takes DAYS to get through it all, and 90% of it is actually pretty mind-blowing to see up close
Absolutely. I’ve been there many times. Absolutely fantastic place to visit. You can literally spend an entire day there
@@erikb8979 An entire day is nowhere near enough! Maybe for each section.
U probably r right.
Dayton native here. Dayton has changed so much since the good ole days unfortunately not in a good way. Smh
You all might laugh about why I moved to Dayton from Los Angeles, California a year ago... I honestly know a good thing when I see one. I've read plenty of posts here and most are true and some are just being a bit harsh. I can't compare Dayton to Los Angeles because Dayton is NOT the right city to pin up against a behemoth of a city. I'm NOT here to defend Los Angeles as this is about Dayton... This city has so much potential. I had read alot about Dayton and what happened to it before I bought a house here and moved. I'm not going to get heavy into all the negatives and positives about the place, but there is definitely something good occurring here and it shows. The downtown may look and feel empty, but it's not ugly or trashed/dirty. It's far from looking like Detroit, too. I find there are more good neighborhoods in this city than there are bad. So far, one year living here, I really like it. I can't really point my finger what it is about this city, but it's growing on me. It's a handsome city (you can laugh) and it's far from being a dead place. I love it's history and the numerous inventions born here. This city deserves a lot more respect.
Welcome! Glad you came out here to the Rust Belt to join in the fun, lol! (I live in Yellow Springs---but have also lived in and around Dayton, worked in the Oregon District and done live theatre too.)
that’s awesome
Go back to California, you’re ruining housing prices
Have you been you any of the local eating spots? There's a street where most the UD students hang out and live by. It's called Brown St. And has lots of places to eat and shop. You should check it out if you haven't already
Having been stationed at Terminal Island, USCG CHASE, Basically
Long Beach, I can definitely understand! Dayton area was a Good Place to Grow up in! They used to have a Great/Good Hockey Team. Long Time ago! At least there's a Cabela's near by!
PRAISE GOD AND HAVE A GOOD ONE!
There's so much that can be done for Dayton Ohio but they have the wrong people in place.
Like west side.
You are so correct, Ohio is the 4th most regulated state in the nation, NY, Cal, Illinois are ahead of Ohio, Think about that, and the # 5 state has 100 fewer regs than Ohio, Taxes are too high, gas/fuel tax one of the highest in the nation, AND the roads are AWFUL, was born in Dayton and lived off and on there most of my life, Leadership has destroyed Ohio and especially Dayton, unlike places like Youngstown, Dayton was a very diverse economy. So Sad, NEED to DEMAND 1st class leadership???? You got to ask yourself, why would i live here if i could live in Tx, Fla,???
@@rafaelartavia2289 Absolutely. I'm originally from Cincy and the Dayton(west side) and many other areas throughout Dayton looks as if a nuke has been dropped on it. I'm a Kettering resident and I've never seen anything like it before. It makes me want to run for office.
@@jimblevins4085 ✅
@@jimblevins4085 so many corrupt democrats
Has a great museum in the Dayton Art Institute just west of downtown. Highly recommend.
One of the best in the country, super great spot
Actualy, just north of downtown, across the river.
Take a pistol if you go there. It's in a very bad part of Dayton
It's only second to Cleveland's musuem I think. Toledo of all places pulling a 3rd.
No you don’t
I'm not even from Ohio but moved up here with my father when I was 16. It's been 13 years since. I chose to permanently stay here and even bought a nice house on the east side and there is plenty to do around here. It has gotten a lot better. It used to be trashy but now days it seems a lot cleaner. Now if they can fix there roads then I would be truly happy.
Great area to be a teenager in the 1960s!😀
Democrats
Ohio was just chosen to have Intel be made here. Several other companies that make biomedical engineering devices also are here now. God bless the Gem 💎 City ❤️
Intel will be east of Columbus, not Dayton. Good for Ohio though.
@@joshmcdarris only and hourish away though. Good for the whole region. An hour commute isn't the worst.
Democrats
After 4 years of MAGA winning surprised Dayton isn't in better shape. Hey did you hear that the Obama care replacement plan will be here in 2 and a 1/2 weeks? LOL
Dayton was the Silicon Valley of its day. From Dayton local public radio, WYSO: "In the early 1900s, Dayton became the invention capital of the United States, with the most patents per capita. From the end of the 19th century through the 20th century, the city's influential inventions included the airplane, the cash register, the self-starting ignition for automobiles, and the pop top beverage can. The long list of inventions also includes the electric wheelchair, the stepladder and the parking meter". Dayton's influence continues today with creations of the Boolean search engine for computer search use, and the creation of the practical LCD screen in use today. With places like Air Force Research Lab and AF Institute of Technology fueling local private tech companies, Dayton's resurgence from the 70s and 80s continues
Dayton may have been bigger in the past but it was always a fairly dreary and rough city even back in the 1950s when I was growing up. A lot of Dayton's criminality has been bleeding over to and harming surrounding communities for decades. I avoided going there back then and still do to this day. Wright-Patterson AFB is close to but not a part of Dayton and is actually located some miles away in another county (Greene County). What happened to Dayton started far longer ago than the early 2000s.
The birthplace of Guided by Voices, Kim and Kelly Deal of the Pixies and The Breeders and many other great musicians. The people here are real. Great punk scene in the early 90's as well. Lots of culture here if you know where to look.
That, and lots of invention and innovation has come out of this city. Some great people here.
Dayton, The Land of Funk music : The Ohio Players, Lakeside, Roger.....
GBV's Bob Pollard was my science teacher at Kiser IMS back in the day!
Spent five years in Dayton. You missed mentioning its biggest asset, the nicest people in all of the US. Kind, generous, welcoming, hard working, Dayton has them all. The comment about taxes is correct. City taxes too high coupled with a State Income tax. Retirees leave if they can so one can live better on less income. I miss Dayton and it’s people!
True
I'm moving out after 10 years here
I'll never find better neighbors
Good folks Christian hearts
I've lived in the Dayton area my entire life, and I agree, we have the friendliest people here! We have great people and lousy weather, lol!!!
@@jillybean15894 I just moved here almost a year ago from Hawaii. Why do people keep saying it's lousy weather! Having all four seasons is AMAZING! Grass is always greener on the other side.
@@ggg21201 is Cleveland Ohio a good place to live for a single retired 40 year old?
@@zpclosangelesgraffiticafe I'm 34 and single as well. I would say absolutely but it depends. My brother lives in Los Angeles and I visit there often. Be prepared for some culture shock and losing out on some things that you had in a big city, but if you are very adaptable and are able to find the positive things and not focus on the negatives than you will really love the move. Affordability alone is worth it but you also have to consider things like having to remake friends in a new area which can be really tough at first. You should definitely seek out some kind of community to find new friends and relationships if you are coming by yourself. It's totally worth it in the end imo though. Also do your homework. The area I live in is extremely safe and full of great people, but not all neighborhoods are like that.
Downtown is also a big lost no stores to shop the arcade is just being used for university Dayton students and alumni if you don't drink just bars and Apt buildings 4 Restaurant's I Eat at needs more shopping centers
Downtown Dayton used to be a thriving place even in the 70s. People would always be going back and forth .
Lots of really wonderful things in Dayton but it is the most depressed city I've ever lived in and the future planning seems misdirected, at best. Damn shame. There is incredible potential here if small business development and forward-thinking growth modeling replaced the tired reliance on major corporations and chain businesses to grow the economy. That said, until the city proper reckons the economic and socioeconomic disparity between the city's east and west sides there's little hope for an equitable sustainable future for all residents.
Democrat leadership will continue to push diversity just for diversity's sake and the few remaining nice towns in Dayton will turn to shit like all of the others that are riddled with crime and drugs.
Well, you can help, go over to the west side and start a biz.
@@exit5620 I've lived in Dayton since 2011 and I can count the number of times I've been to West Dayton on one finger.
Dayton is one of the most segregated cities in America and has been so for decades.
@@elbob17 West Dayton can be a one way trip.
My mom is from the Dayton area sad to see it go downhill
Sorry about your Mom.
@@email5023 my mom's still alive dude
@@therealjirosomer876 That is good to hear. You stated she went downhill and that does not necessarily mean she is gone. I hope she gets better!
@@email5023 I was talking about the city not my mom
Coulda been 3 minutes solid of back-to-back nation-changing firsts mentioned here. Inventions, events, groups, music, societal firsts.... Dayton went so hard for a long time. There's something in the water around here for sure there's been some incredible stuff come out of Dayton. Lots of money going around here you just have to know where to look. Very attractive for small businesses- lots of support put on through Montgomery County. Harrison Township has an as-high crime rate per-capita than any major big ghetto city, Washington Township has the lowest and is nick-named the land of milk and honey. I love Dayton. You can't be soft around here but you bet you can learn anything about life within 20 minutes of it. Farms, industry, extreme tech, military, weapons, healthcare, transportation.. it's all still here just not as much in some cases. Forgot to mention how it's the most prime location in the nation to reach over half the population of the country within a day's drive for trucking companies... GM being the sell-outs they've always been was the last straw for most of the area. Tons and tons of opportunity if you want to put in the work- dozens of trade-based construction companies, landscaping companies, house-keeping services, small businesses of many many kinds are so busy they turn down customers. Real-estate is booming.. I mean, I could thrown together a 30 minute video of just how ham Dayton has went and still goes. There's a reason why some of the greatest minds on Earth have been from Dayton- we aren't the same from around here.
Yes! Dayton's inventions are blessings to humanity! Dayton is amazing! ❤️
Dayton is just a skeleton left of what it was. My parents and grandparents have told me many times throughout the years about how it used to be. I had multiple family members that moved to the Dayton area from Kentucky just to work at GM. Many good paying union jobs throughout different manufacturing sectors all gone. The farm I grew up on was bought with McCalls and GM money. All my family members that had the big nice houses, farms, properties all worked at GM. Including the others mentioned, losing the GM plants along with all the many other jobs that depended on them destroyed the city.
I was just downtown and oh my goodness. It is unbelievable unbelievable, how far it has went down.
You know That’s Right!
So very true. I had an appointment with a lawyer to settle mom’s estate, sixty of her 83 years in the area, grew up inner city after the war, and we were raised in western Dayton. It deteriorated after the racial violence in mid to late sixties and early seventies and we left town for the new suburban areas north, then clear away in the country. I’m not sure if the city can come back, some areas downtown quirky and fun, but huge areas completely blighted and abandoned. And the hospital mergers took old traditional families out of neighborhoods nearer to town and quite exclusive years ago. The southern suburban areas and base looking aged, and lots of empty buildings, while a county south is more like Cincy and growing. Dayton and Montgomery county are in a bad spiral, don’t expect much to recover.
I guess you missed all the new apartments and condo's that are being built downtown, especially around the Baseball stadium. Ever been to a Dragon's Game? Great family fun!
There's actually another museum, Carillon Park, that also focusses a lot on Dayton's history, including a pop-tab exhibit and an entire building dedicated to the Wrights Bros. It's got a lot there, but it's still pretty cool.
Dayton Ohio my hometown still here and love it
The less pc version, “drugs”.
I could add it was the union's unwillingness to negotiate with Chrysler and GM that caused them to leave Dayton for good
The real reason is population got darker...there I said it
Trotwood
Trotwood-Madison Class of 83
I'm in Dayton. The decline seems a lot more than stated. Though homelessness has grown throughout the city and suburbs
Living about 15 mins from Dayton it's nice to see how other towns have survived like my hometown miamisburg
Hamburger Wagon. YUM!
Sorrel's was my favorite store growing up.
Miamisburg and sorrounding, I’m a local business owner. Check out our shop for any window or glass needs. We are in the original star city hardware building. Star Windows!
30 years of Democrat Mayors will do that to you. But hey the Turkish love it here
100%. They have bigger plans: "diversity," "social equity," "Inclusion" and all of the other buzzwords that Democrats throw around.
@@elbob17 all the immigrants love Dayton. Take a ride around East Dayton one day, you’ll see why most of the whites are starting to move to West Dayton or the surrounding areas. White Flight in East Dayton is a real problem in current days.
Mike Turner was mayor for ten years starting in the mid 90s. He's now your Congressional leader, and has been for since 2003. He's a Republican.
So, it looks like you are either a liar, don't know what your talking about, or both.
@@Y2Krieger awe the 90s when G.M. Dephi, NCR, Standard Register, Panasonic etc. before they were taxed out of the state. Please explain how awesome it is do business in this sanctuary city, meanwhile trying to keep people here with the highest property tax rate in the country, lowest quality of education, 3rd highest crime rate in the state.
It's amazing here !
@Claw Shooter lol, so your saying Dayton was shit from the 70s, great in the 90s-early 2000s (because 'R') and then back to shit? You're telling me, these companies left Dayton (and the entire state) because of a 1% difference in property tax? Most larger cities have ~2٪ tax rates. They didn't close/leave because of a massive recession?
Again, you seem to rail against how shitty Western Ohio still is, yet you keep your representation the same for 20-30 years.
I came from Norway back in the 90's been (wife is from here) living in a couple of suburbs of Dayton, and now just south of the city. I like it her; people are very friendly, easy to get anywhere with several airports not far away. I lived a lot in FL because of work, if you dream of a FL lifestyle, you must consider what you have here in Ohio, OH is a very nice state to live in. Now with many companies accepting home offices, OH is an awesome place to live. Given the opportunity, I will live the rest of my days here.
Since you are infatuated with Dayton.
Could I please have your Norway 🇳🇴 citizenship?
Thanks in advance. 😊