Nelson was ahead of his time! His videos are pure gold classic! A time machine into the past. If he only knew how people would watch his videos close to the 2020s.
I feel like he knew on some level that he was doing something important and that it was for the future. He had quit his job a few days before he passed away to start his cable show and do the video stuff full time. He was such a mentor to younger people in the community, i believe that he on some level knew that he was capturing lgbtq 🏳️🌈 history for the young folks in our community
I can’t ever say how much I appreciated Nelson. What an amazing man. I am so GRATEFUL for all the videos he made. I just saw Ernie for the first time on one just the other day!!
Yes he wasn't sleazy hanging out with the younger club kids, i truly believe he was fascinated and intrigued by this lifestyle of this time, he captured it all so eloquently.
Don't you think James book and film, inacurate as they where had pretty much to do with that. Really dig Nelsons videos,fantastic stuff. But Michael and Earnie don't show that much.
Wait....so because you didn't know about the Club Kids until Nelson's videos, that means they would've been forgotten with out them? Someone clearly thinks VERY highly of them self, huh?
@@sese6227 lol my message clearly reflects that I think highly of Nelson’s work and value it but if you want to make it about me then it’s your choice :)
I only learned of you guys through watching Nelson’s tapes. The guy is fascinating to me. He was vlogging wayyy before anyone could even grasp that concept. I wish he was alive today and could see it all now.
Nelson seemed to be such a decent person. I know that we all have different sides to us, but to me, he was a kind soul. Im sure at times, Nelson dragging the camera around had to be a lil annoying to his friends, but his videos are timeless now, and as far away from a club kid type as I am, I love watching them because I knew those days and lived them. The one with RuPaul and the bunch at the art gallery is amazing. I have always thought it is fascinating to watch the average, before they became stars.
i saw ernie in a few of nelsons videos, the video i remember precisely is the video of the bus ride to DC for the party, and it seemed that you knew him well... but okkk
Because they talked for a few minutes when Ernie first arrived?? 😂 I love how so many of these comments assume to know what was going on, better than those who actually lived it. Weirdos.
I watched hours of the videos by Nelson so greatful he made them so we can see into the lives and era of all the people even rupaul and Christina and you all . I’m from California so for me to see what it was like in NY is fascinating..💗💕💜
There’s so many videos of Nelson’s that I never realized it was RuPaul. In fact unfortunately the video which I realized it was his last video. RuPaul was sitting in their backyard and I went “wait is that...has that been RuPaul this whole time in all these videos?!”.
You have to remember Nelson was a lot older than all these club kids. They were all spaced out on something whereas Nelson was completely tee total and just people watching with his camera. I loved the Nelson videos it's such a valuable insight to this era so big thanks to Dick RIP for restoring these. Michael feels more for Nelson than he's letting on, you can tell it was a special nurturing time for him when he felt so young and naive at this time. Nelson was a father figure anchor, I cant believe he was a sleaze or trying to hit on the club kids.. I kind of wish Michael hung out more with Ru as he was switched on and stable and forged a beautiful career.
Nelson smoked a lot of pot, hon. And he did Ecstasy sometimes. Not nearly as blitzed as Alig and the addicts. And I don’t think he hung with the younger Alig folks all that much. He was with the older established artists like Sylvia, Musto, Brant, Bunny and then he became close to RuPaul. That group was older(except RP) and ran parallel to the younger club kids. But more so really the big players in the art/fashion/film/music scene. He recognized Michael Alig and the kids as the new big thing and so of course became social and filmed their club and drag culture. But I think you overestimate the relationship between Alig and Nelson. And to act like Nelson wasn’t high is just kind of funny. He partook of the weed quite a bit. He just wasn’t a full out drug abuser like the club kids, which is why Nelson’s close clan went in one direction and Michael Alig ended up where he went.
@@edeneverly2573 Exactly! If you watch the Christmas party video, Nelson talks about how he ate some ecstasy the night before and he had some of Michael's ecstasy chocolate that night of the Christmas party. I don't know where people get that Nelson was straight edge? Like you said, he wasn't a junkie, but he would partake from time to time.
@@BreakerOneNine07 People seem to make Nelson whatever they want him to be. He's talked very openly about leaving the hard drugs in the past, in a lot of his vids, yet some people insist the man never touched a drug in his life. The whole he was a "father figure" is another popular theme in Nelson's comment section....it's like the audience started their own fanfic lol.
Me too it was almost like tagging along yourself to the party! I so miss the whole vibe from back in those days, even though I was much too young to enjoy the whole party scene, the whole vibe of the time period is so nostalgic, I miss it very much. But the world moves forward as it always will, it's so important to preserve things to be able to look back and be able to have those memories on film. I love Nelson's vids I've seen, he was so good at what he did 😊
I LOVE WATCHING THESE VIDEOS EVERY SO OFTEN, ERNIE AND ALIG BRING ME SO MUCH JOY TO MY DAY. I THINK OF ALIG EACH CHRISTMAS. MAY HE RIP AND BLESSINGS TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY THESE HOLIDAYS ERNIE GLAM. 🤗
Ernie, you did all you could, there is NO reason for you to feel guilty about keeping your distance from Michael, I am a recovering alcoholic/ addict and I blame no one but myself for being alone, I drove everyone away with my drug/alcohol abuse and it is very lonely even in sobriety. R.I.P. Michael 😥
So happy to see you talk about Nelson. Its sad how party monster shows clips from his videos but doesn't give him credit or a mention. I think it would of been awesome for someone to play Nelson as the camera man the one who mccully and seth talk to in the beginning and throw out the frame and for some of the party scene to be filmed with fish lens like Nelson did . It would of showed the distorted mindstate and atmosphere.
@@BreakerOneNine07Are you referring to the fact that Christina, played by Marilyn Manson, was featured in the movie? So they should have had an actor to portray Nelson like they did with Christina? I'm just curious.
I have watched all his videos and he put himself on camera all the time. That's why we so often remark that he was the first vlogger. He filmed himself throughout his day and things he did and places he went and he had the camera on himself all the time. He surely didn't avoid putting himself on the camera.
Love Nelson's video's, he gave a real glimpse into a scene and life style and 1980s New York city I was to young to take part in and experience...like most people I was introduced to the new York club kid scene through party monster...then found Nelson's channel after that...the people in his videos are EPIC wish I could have been around to hang out with and know them during that time would have been AMAZING!
I love you Ernie no one did more or could have done more he would have driven most people mad , I can't believe he's gone I to will miss him even though all we did was fight . He was such a massive figure our world which was amazing for so long now its really over .he was so lucky and blessed to have you ,he must have known that .I don't think he could handle the truth of what life was for him after his prison sentence .I believe he just could not cope with the fact he was no longer , well you know . aim so sorry Ernie though your stronger kinder and way more brilliant than most of us so I see you as a bright shining star . Micheal was brilliant and very damaged I think this was the way it was going to play out no matter what anyone did . No one could make it better so now he's at peace . Be well Ernie I love you even though I was horrible at slime I do care for you mucho , love Kenny K
Is there a chance that you guys contact the people who have the rest of Nelsons videos and continue sharing them on YT? His channel has stopped since Dick has passed.
I'm pretty sure the rest of nelsons footage was donated to a library for safe keeping after Dick Richards passed away...but there is a documentary out that you can buy called Nelson Sullivan's World of Wonder that may have some extra or unseen stuff in it
Dick Richards gave ALL of the tapes to NYU right before he died so it’s up to them if they want to make them public. If you really wanted to you could give the archive department a call and ask. Or email, which would probably be best. I should say however that it’s incredibly unlikely that they’re going to release all 1900+ tapes to the public.
I think Nelson's work have an unapologetic look at the people of that time. I am thrilled these videos have been preserved. You guys are better for losing the third guy.
Its funny how a lot of ppl who knew Nelson disliked him filming them which I understand because they didn't want to get high on tape but they complained and some picked on him or didn't like him and thought he was weird for filming himself but are now doing the same thing lol. And because of him we get to see that all these creative talented charismatic ppl we now love , we get to see where they started and they were young dumb kids having fun not knowing they where forever changing the future. So much talent in the club kids crowd.
I have never heard any of them pick on him or talk shit about him, back then or now. Who are you talking about? Most of everyone back then loved Nelson.
@@JazzyUte i think you could see nelson decline when ru's star was rising and the club kids became the big NYC thing, it became about drugs then when christina died he just through in the towel, quit his job and went for the drugs, he did come across as tragic bydone era in all the alig club kid videos
I think just because you did something horribly wrong while out of your mind doesn't erase the good you did. You saw talent where others didn't, you gave them love when others didn't, you taught them to live for today but tmrw isn't promised , you taught them to believe in themselves and get the job done while having fun. You made new words and changed the way we see beauty and art
On Ernie's comment about feeling he didn't really know Nelson; you young men were so much busier then, too. Nelson would have been your gay mother, at best. His days of club hustling and promoting were over. He was smart enough to know the pretty people wanted you babies. He turned to his God given talents and let you next generation characters take over. He would have shown at your parties and premiers to support you in the community when your attention likely would have been a million places other than on him.
He became more comfortable with time with the cámara. Totally true. You can see it from the older 1983 videos. At some point some dude wanted to take his picture and he seemed very reluctant and uncomfortable
Nelson was the best!! So ahead of his time. The best videographer of the 80's!!! I can just imagine what Nelson would be doing today if he was still with us. Love Nelson Sullivan!!! 😇🙏🏼💕🤗💗❤️💕🎬📼🎥📺⌨️💻📱
It is hard enough to have the stigma of being gay, but also having the stigma of being a convicted murderer, it was probably a very heavy burden to bear. I assume that Michael at this point was on disability. So he probably had three degrees of stigma. Personally, I don't find the Club Kids all that interesting as a social movement, but as individual gay people they are fascinating subjects.
I’ve watched all Nelson’s videos. Young Michael and Earnie. Nelson was definitely the first blogger. His last video was sad. Michael I’ve watched a lot of your videos. I’m glad that your doing well. I believe you paid your price to society, and you should be able to live your life. I please stay away from the drugs, I don’t want to read that you overdosed. Also are you and Kioki together? I’m kind of a romantic and love the way you guys were together back in the day.
I saw this and had no clue he had died. Ugh. I had a friend die this weekend of heroin overdose as well. Fucking drugs. I am so glad I got clean and have stayed clean, I pray to God I don't go back out, because there is nothing there but death.
@@wandagetz966 I’m so sorry for your loss. I’m in recovery myself. It’s really sad Michael never found his way out. I could tell he was high in some of his videos on his channel. It’s so sad how it destroys everybody and everything it comes around it’s a very scary time
Brought to this intervention because of Nelson films!! In fairness..Alig protecting Nelson in the beginning...bravo..but of course still turns it around at the end making it about him and his murderous ass..he " fucked his way to the bottom..and murdered his way to the top! " ..neither or these two will NEVER EVER hold a candle to Nelson! in this world..and definitely not in the next..because y'all not going where he's resting with Blackout.
Like a true pair of jealous old queens; trying to describe something that seems hard to pin down for them, because they were talking about a guy who had basic personal integrity and have no ability to recognize it, or it’s worth as a character trait 😵💫
I just found out Michael Alig passed. Also have no clue who Nelson is except a Vloger, who filmed many club kids plus more I believe. He passed away as well. I won’t bad mouth any of them. Sometimes I forget myself and if I ever did, know I’m still growing spiritually. Who am I to judge? Am I perfect? Oh heck no! Plus my Mom taught me it’s terrible to speak ill of the dead. Thank you for these videos. 🐾🐾🐶♥️ Edit- I will be checking out Nelson’s videos and all the ones on this channel.
I think that a lot of Gay people don't like Michael Alig because he reveals an interesting truth about Gay relationships and interactions. They can be beautiful and gratifying, and they can also be cruel and violent, physically or otherwise. Like straight relations. And then I realized that Ernie had a syringe on his tshirt.
Michael is lying and Ernie sees right through him....glad Ernie finally had enough of this piece of trash.....I can't even feel sorry for him, Michael has had too many chances to grow up and live a decent life....he is stuck in 1990
@Lisa Hunt yes lol . And everything is a secret innuendo , or inside jk he and Ernie know of , but a lot of times I feel , he was trying to let everyone know he was falling from grace , and could not live up to this facade of being a completely changed man from prison ! R I P MICHAEL ALIG 😞🥀🌺🌼🌻
@@Harmony233 your right bro , I’d rather him show a little more remorse or concern for some of his behavior over the yrs , sometimes I still see the arrogant narcissistic person he’s always been , pathetic
You can really see how things are falling apart in your friendship here Whats odd is that nostalgia is the only reason you were able to do what you did Ernie, because Michael could never really recover after he did what he did was incarcerated for so long, he never knew how else to be The documentary stitch up Glory Daze where they hot mic him and James making jokes about Angel's body was so evil, it was dark humour, i am all for that kind of humour, but it really just wasnt in the same realm as that, it showed a lot, he seem to be able to flick between supposed remorse and then these inappropriate shallow flippant jokes depending on the company It only really ever seemed that he was only really devastated by everything he lost His behaviour on the talk shows and the increasing depravity of the party themes were huge give aways to this and I genuinely believe we see more the real him when he was with James than when was is with you He was just able to shape into what you wanted him to be for all the time he manipulated you, but just couldnt keep up the facade forever If he had have been able achieve come huge comeback success with all his endeavours, then I genuinely fear things would have gone the same way We had a mini revival in East London around 2012/13 of the NYC club kid scene, even Larry Tee was around here for that period and it was very much an echo of what i see in the 5th ave videos and all the stories and documentaries, i had to leave after about a year as i became heavily involved and it started to destroy my mind, because for all the pretty colours and costumes, the minute it becomes vacuous hedonism, it becomes and empty existence
👑 Michael, you look fabulous ! Think pink ! 💕💕. And you look a little tan ! ☀️ 👌🏻. ❤️ oh btw I love hearing you and Ernie’s stories. I knew a few of those people in Atlanta before they moved to NYC . I had a huge crush on Trade . He was gorgeous! LOL ! 😉 bye!!💋
It's funny because one of Nelson's videos he taped is him complaining and talking shit about Michael because he wasn't invited to a party or dinner he was having
Michael is a liar. He always said Nelson was appropriate and a mentor to them. Now he's saying he thinks he'd try to sleep with him. Nah Nelson seen right through him. He even said it in a video. That's why Ernie was like "what? 🥴
I had never heard of Michael Alig, before he died, but he is an interesting person in terms of his success and tragedy. I wish that they had created a grave for him, so that his friends had somewhere to grieve.
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@@ThePeeew Okay, you got me. But the deal is you guys are presumably in your 50's and you still live your lives like you're stuck in the late 80's. It's not your age, it's your immaturity that's embarrassing to me. But you do you.
@@shannontiffany4525 I'm 31. It was a much different time, and these guys, one of whom murdered someone, don't seem to realize that they are no longer in that time. Personal opinion, I don't think it looks respectable to cavort around acting like you're still 21 when you're in your 50's.
Why every time Michael tells a story like this one, i get the feeling that he always had to pretend being gay in order to get that golden ticket into a night life, that could explain everything actually , I have so many gay friends and people in my closest circle are gay, I just don’t see that in him, he’s definitely a gay by choice if so
Nelson was ahead of his time! His videos are pure gold classic! A time machine into the past. If he only knew how people would watch his videos close to the 2020s.
And beyond...
So true!
I feel like he knew on some level that he was doing something important and that it was for the future. He had quit his job a few days before he passed away to start his cable show and do the video stuff full time. He was such a mentor to younger people in the community, i believe that he on some level knew that he was capturing lgbtq 🏳️🌈 history for the young folks in our community
His videos bring back so many memories of my NYHC days in the 80’s
RIP Nelson, thanks for your creative eye
Nelson made us all time travellers!!!! He's still alive in those videos... love him xxxxxxxx
I can’t ever say how much I appreciated Nelson. What an amazing man. I am so GRATEFUL for all the videos he made. I just saw Ernie for the first time on one just the other day!!
Nelson goes shopping with his mom is my favorite video cracks me up.. rip Michael Alig
Michael, I’m so happy to hear you explain the friend thing to Ernie! Nelson was an amazing human being!
Yes he wasn't sleazy hanging out with the younger club kids, i truly believe he was fascinated and intrigued by this lifestyle of this time, he captured it all so eloquently.
Yes, he seems gentle and Chippa!
Nelson was the OG vlogger!
YES!🤘🏻
Absolutely, Nelson was decades ahead of the time. An amazing person, an artist.
If it wasn’t for Nelson’s video, I wouldn’t hv known abt the Club kid’s history at all.
Don't you think James book and film, inacurate as they where had pretty much to do with that. Really dig Nelsons videos,fantastic stuff. But Michael and Earnie don't show that much.
Well then thank God for Nelsons videos!
Wait....so because you didn't know about the Club Kids until Nelson's videos, that means they would've been forgotten with out them? Someone clearly thinks VERY highly of them self, huh?
@@sese6227 lol my message clearly reflects that I think highly of Nelson’s work and value it but if you want to make it about me then it’s your choice :)
No not really. It just adds to them.
Nelson Sullivan is a Legend, and a beautiful person
Definitely
I only learned of you guys through watching Nelson’s tapes. The guy is fascinating to me. He was vlogging wayyy before anyone could even grasp that concept. I wish he was alive today and could see it all now.
Nelson contributed alot to the scene
Its hard to believe he died before the club kids became super famous...
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@@ThePeeew That's what irks me. Nelson died 5 months before the 1990s came. He would have done some amazing things if he lived throughout the 90s.
Nelson seemed to be such a decent person. I know that we all have different sides to us, but to me, he was a kind soul.
Im sure at times, Nelson dragging the camera around had to be a lil annoying to his friends, but his videos are timeless now, and as far away from a club kid type as I am, I love watching them because I knew those days and lived them.
The one with RuPaul and the bunch at the art gallery is amazing. I have always thought it is fascinating to watch the average, before they became stars.
i saw ernie in a few of nelsons videos, the video i remember precisely is the video of the bus ride to DC for the party, and it seemed that you knew him well... but okkk
He seems upset about something and is just letting it out now
Maybe ernie felt left out coz he wasn't invited to nelson's parties maybe?!🤔
Because they talked for a few minutes when Ernie first arrived?? 😂 I love how so many of these comments assume to know what was going on, better than those who actually lived it. Weirdos.
@@sese6227 exactly smdh
Musto is a hypocrite . He strikes me as such a weasel.
Have you the link?
Agreed , points a finger behind his type writer , but the biggest princess ever
I absolutely agree.
Both Musto and his little twit friend Albert Crudo.
@@avalondreaming1433 Yup. They're two peas in a moldy, fraudulent pod.
I watched hours of the videos by Nelson so greatful he made them so we can see into the lives and era of all the people even rupaul and Christina and you all . I’m from California so for me to see what it was like in NY is fascinating..💗💕💜
There’s so many videos of Nelson’s that I never realized it was RuPaul. In fact unfortunately the video which I realized it was his last video. RuPaul was sitting in their backyard and I went “wait is that...has that been RuPaul this whole time in all these videos?!”.
You have to remember Nelson was a lot older than all these club kids. They were all spaced out on something whereas Nelson was completely tee total and just people watching with his camera. I loved the Nelson videos it's such a valuable insight to this era so big thanks to Dick RIP for restoring these. Michael feels more for Nelson than he's letting on, you can tell it was a special nurturing time for him when he felt so young and naive at this time. Nelson was a father figure anchor, I cant believe he was a sleaze or trying to hit on the club kids.. I kind of wish Michael hung out more with Ru as he was switched on and stable and forged a beautiful career.
Nelson smoked a lot of pot, hon. And he did Ecstasy sometimes. Not nearly as blitzed as Alig and the addicts. And I don’t think he hung with the younger Alig folks all that much. He was with the older established artists like Sylvia, Musto, Brant, Bunny and then he became close to RuPaul. That group was older(except RP) and ran parallel to the younger club kids. But more so really the big players in the art/fashion/film/music scene. He recognized Michael Alig and the kids as the new big thing and so of course became social and filmed their club and drag culture. But I think you overestimate the relationship between Alig and Nelson. And to act like Nelson wasn’t high is just kind of funny. He partook of the weed quite a bit. He just wasn’t a full out drug abuser like the club kids, which is why Nelson’s close clan went in one direction and Michael Alig ended up where he went.
@@edeneverly2573 Exactly! If you watch the Christmas party video, Nelson talks about how he ate some ecstasy the night before and he had some of Michael's ecstasy chocolate that night of the Christmas party. I don't know where people get that Nelson was straight edge? Like you said, he wasn't a junkie, but he would partake from time to time.
@@BreakerOneNine07 People seem to make Nelson whatever they want him to be. He's talked very openly about leaving the hard drugs in the past, in a lot of his vids, yet some people insist the man never touched a drug in his life. The whole he was a "father figure" is another popular theme in Nelson's comment section....it's like the audience started their own fanfic lol.
Pretty sure nelson was not a tee totaller.
LMAO Nelson was not a tee totaler at all.
RIP Nelson and Michael and Christina and Blackout. The more ands I type the sadder I become.
Ernie says he hates nostalgia while wearing the most old school Rican straw fedora I'v seen in years lol.
What's bizarre is I've watched so many of Nelsons videos, it feels like I actually knew him. But I wasn't even alive when he was...so trippy.
Same😊💖
Such a cool little community gathering here.
I watch nelsons videos all day and talk my boyfriends ear off about what I saw nelson do today.
I've had Nelson appear in a couple of my dreams, very strange considering I only know him through his videos.
Ok, but also, your name is amaaaazing! 😍
Alig invited Nelson to his apartment For Christmas Love that video!
oh yeah he did, Julie Jewells was there
Me too it was almost like tagging along yourself to the party! I so miss the whole vibe from back in those days, even though I was much too young to enjoy the whole party scene, the whole vibe of the time period is so nostalgic, I miss it very much. But the world moves forward as it always will, it's so important to preserve things to be able to look back and be able to have those memories on film. I love Nelson's vids I've seen, he was so good at what he did 😊
Love that video it was crazy. The sort of video where you wished you were part of it. 🙂
Yes
Mike died last Christmas, so sad, he obviously loved the holidays
I LOVE WATCHING THESE VIDEOS EVERY SO OFTEN, ERNIE AND ALIG BRING ME SO MUCH JOY TO MY DAY. I THINK OF ALIG EACH CHRISTMAS. MAY HE RIP AND BLESSINGS TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY THESE HOLIDAYS ERNIE GLAM. 🤗
Ernie, you did all you could, there is NO reason for you to feel guilty about keeping your distance from Michael, I am a recovering alcoholic/ addict and I blame no one but myself for being alone, I drove everyone away with my drug/alcohol abuse and it is very lonely even in sobriety. R.I.P. Michael 😥
So happy to see you talk about Nelson. Its sad how party monster shows clips from his videos but doesn't give him credit or a mention. I think it would of been awesome for someone to play Nelson as the camera man the one who mccully and seth talk to in the beginning and throw out the frame and for some of the party scene to be filmed with fish lens like Nelson did . It would of showed the distorted mindstate and atmosphere.
Exactly! They put Christina in the movie, but couldn't fit Nelson in?!?!
Great vision. I can picture the opening shot!
@@BreakerOneNine07 exactly my thoughts
@@BreakerOneNine07Are you referring to the fact that Christina, played by Marilyn Manson, was featured in the movie? So they should have had an actor to portray Nelson like they did with Christina? I'm just curious.
@@erindiazmclaughlin Yeah, that's what I was getting at.
I have watched all his videos and he put himself on camera all the time. That's why we so often remark that he was the first vlogger. He filmed himself throughout his day and things he did and places he went and he had the camera on himself all the time. He surely didn't avoid putting himself on the camera.
They clearly didn’t know him lol
@@ndrw_cstnd They knew him a helluva lot more than anyone in this comment section 😂
Ernie, I am in awe of your calm and patient nature.
Really honey, we could all take a lesson.
Love Nelson's video's, he gave a real glimpse into a scene and life style and 1980s New York city I was to young to take part in and experience...like most people I was introduced to the new York club kid scene through party monster...then found Nelson's channel after that...the people in his videos are EPIC wish I could have been around to hang out with and know them during that time would have been AMAZING!
The doorman story has to go in your memoir. lol
I love you Ernie no one did more or could have done more he would have driven most people mad , I can't believe he's gone I to will miss him even though all we did was fight . He was such a massive figure our world which was amazing for so long now its really over .he was so lucky and blessed to have you ,he must have known that .I don't think he could handle the truth of what life was for him after his prison sentence .I believe he just could not cope with the fact he was no longer , well you know . aim so sorry Ernie though your stronger kinder and way more brilliant than most of us so I see you as a bright shining star . Micheal was brilliant and very damaged I think this was the way it was going to play out no matter what anyone did . No one could make it better so now he's at peace . Be well Ernie I love you even though I was horrible at slime I do care for you mucho , love Kenny K
Is there a chance that you guys contact the people who have the rest of Nelsons videos and continue sharing them on YT? His channel has stopped since Dick has passed.
ALP I wish they would reply to this.
I'm pretty sure the rest of nelsons footage was donated to a library for safe keeping after Dick Richards passed away...but there is a documentary out that you can buy called Nelson Sullivan's World of Wonder that may have some extra or unseen stuff in it
Dick Richards gave ALL of the tapes to NYU right before he died so it’s up to them if they want to make them public. If you really wanted to you could give the archive department a call and ask. Or email, which would probably be best. I should say however that it’s incredibly unlikely that they’re going to release all 1900+ tapes to the public.
NYU Fales has a Tumblr page with a few videos on it. There may be more to come. For now I am restoring what's available.
I think Nelson's work have an unapologetic look at the people of that time. I am thrilled these videos have been preserved. You guys are better for losing the third guy.
Its funny how a lot of ppl who knew Nelson disliked him filming them which I understand because they didn't want to get high on tape but they complained and some picked on him or didn't like him and thought he was weird for filming himself but are now doing the same thing lol. And because of him we get to see that all these creative talented charismatic ppl we now love , we get to see where they started and they were young dumb kids having fun not knowing they where forever changing the future. So much talent in the club kids crowd.
I have never heard any of them pick on him or talk shit about him, back then or now. Who are you talking about? Most of everyone back then loved Nelson.
I’m interested in the way past... like your childhoods... and the present. Very excited for the Patreon videos!!!
Michael, if it wasn't for Nelson there wouldn't be near as much footage of you and all the club kids. Rip to both of them.
Did Michael say that Trade was with Nelson when he died? Is that true?
Hi. There are rumors...of intimacy and possible drug use at the time of Nelson's death. But I really don't know if it's true.
Yes that's true. He called the ambulance but said it didn't come for a half hour and Nelson had passed. None of Nelson's grandfather's lived past 43.
@@JazzyUte i think you could see nelson decline when ru's star was rising and the club kids became the big NYC thing, it became about drugs then when christina died he just through in the towel, quit his job and went for the drugs, he did come across as tragic bydone era in all the alig club kid videos
I think just because you did something horribly wrong while out of your mind doesn't erase the good you did. You saw talent where others didn't, you gave them love when others didn't, you taught them to live for today but tmrw isn't promised , you taught them to believe in themselves and get the job done while having fun. You made new words and changed the way we see beauty and art
On Ernie's comment about feeling he didn't really know Nelson; you young men were so much busier then, too.
Nelson would have been your gay mother, at best.
His days of club hustling and promoting were over. He was smart enough to know the pretty people wanted you babies. He turned to his God given talents and let you next generation characters take over.
He would have shown at your parties and premiers to support you in the community when your attention likely would have been a million places other than on him.
He became more comfortable with time with the cámara. Totally true. You can see it from the older 1983 videos. At some point some dude wanted to take his picture and he seemed very reluctant and uncomfortable
Thank You for confirming once again that Michael Musto is "TRASH"!!!!❤️❤️❤️RIP NELSON + CHRISTINA
I so love Ernie, he’s so effortlessly cool, plus I love his authenticity ❤️
Wow! Good for more people to discover about Nelson's work.
Y’all ever saw that one video when Nelson wasn’t invited to Micheals dinner party at the Red Zone and Nelson was so mad he went off on Micheal
Nelson is the original Vlogger. A true damned pioneer.
I love hearing about nelson. Especially from michael!! Too bad you guys didnt talk more about him
Michael Alig trying to shine from Nelsons light but he never will.
It's September 2020, What are You doing ? I haven't seen any recent videos of you two ??
He died
RIP so sad
Nelson was the best!! So ahead of his time. The best videographer of the 80's!!! I can just imagine what Nelson would be doing today if he was still with us. Love Nelson Sullivan!!! 😇🙏🏼💕🤗💗❤️💕🎬📼🎥📺⌨️💻📱
Thanks Ernie for making these videos
Beats any book on your scene 🫡
It is hard enough to have the stigma of being gay, but also having the stigma of being a convicted murderer, it was probably a very heavy burden to bear. I assume that Michael at this point was on disability. So he probably had three degrees of stigma. Personally, I don't find the Club Kids all that interesting as a social movement, but as individual gay people they are fascinating subjects.
He's dead now.
Nelson did not care for Michael at all! Watch his videos.
Yes he did till the party he was not invited to.
I’ve watched all Nelson’s videos. Young Michael and Earnie. Nelson was definitely the first blogger. His last video was sad.
Michael I’ve watched a lot of your videos. I’m glad that your doing well. I believe you paid your price to society, and you should be able to live your life. I please stay away from the drugs, I don’t want to read that you overdosed.
Also are you and Kioki together? I’m kind of a romantic and love the way you guys were together back in the day.
Sad. That’s what you’re going to read…
I saw this and had no clue he had died. Ugh. I had a friend die this weekend of heroin overdose as well. Fucking drugs. I am so glad I got clean and have stayed clean, I pray to God I don't go back out, because there is nothing there but death.
@@wandagetz966 I’m so sorry for your loss. I’m in recovery myself. It’s really sad Michael never found his way out. I could tell he was high in some of his videos on his channel. It’s so sad how it destroys everybody and everything it comes around it’s a very scary time
These shoulda been longer.
Brought to this intervention because of Nelson films!! In fairness..Alig protecting Nelson in the beginning...bravo..but of course still turns it around at the end making it about him and his murderous ass..he " fucked his way to the bottom..and murdered his way to the top! " ..neither or these two will NEVER EVER hold a candle to Nelson! in this world..and definitely not in the next..because y'all not going where he's resting with Blackout.
Like a true pair of jealous old queens; trying to describe something that seems hard to pin down for them, because they were talking about a guy who had basic personal integrity and have no ability to recognize it, or it’s worth as a character trait 😵💫
its very good to see you guys still healthy!!!
When I heard u say no more video's on youtube my heart dropped but thank goodness I have you guy's on pateron😘 Love you both lovies💕
love you guys ^^ nelson was awesome
I just found out Michael Alig passed. Also have no clue who Nelson is except a Vloger, who filmed many club kids plus more I believe. He passed away as well. I won’t bad mouth any of them. Sometimes I forget myself and if I ever did, know I’m still growing spiritually. Who am I to judge? Am I perfect? Oh heck no! Plus my Mom taught me it’s terrible to speak ill of the dead. Thank you for these videos. 🐾🐾🐶♥️
Edit- I will be checking out Nelson’s videos and all the ones on this channel.
Omg ernies shirt lmao love it
My family would kill me if I wore it but i want it.
Is the guy with the bow tie, the one who did the murder?
Yes, his name is Michael alig
I have a honest question, are they reading the conversation? What are they looking off at?
they are at a park in the summer. hot men are walking by.
Peeew! Oh that is funny
Much love Ernie! I hope you are happy and well.
💖I love you both, love the videos💖
I think that a lot of Gay people don't like Michael Alig because he reveals an interesting truth about Gay relationships and interactions. They can be beautiful and gratifying, and they can also be cruel and violent, physically or otherwise. Like straight relations. And then I realized that Ernie had a syringe on his tshirt.
Dont speak for any one, speak for your self only, you dont have friends who believe in you ......your not even real
Love all.the Nelson videos and yalls.
R I P
Michael is lying and Ernie sees right through him....glad Ernie finally had enough of this piece of trash.....I can't even feel sorry for him, Michael has had too many chances to grow up and live a decent life....he is stuck in 1990
ITS PATHETIC THAT MICHAEL CAN’T BARELY SPEAK WITHOUT A SCRIPT , HE ALWAYS STUTTERS , STOPS N STARTS, ITS LIKE DAMN BRO IS YOUR MEMORY THAT SHOT OUT
@Lisa Hunt yes lol . And everything is a secret innuendo , or inside jk he and Ernie know of , but a lot of times I feel , he was trying to let everyone know he was falling from grace , and could not live up to this facade of being a completely changed man from prison ! R I P MICHAEL ALIG 😞🥀🌺🌼🌻
Re watching some of these episodes where Michael would joke about overdosing it doesn't feel like he was joking comes across very sad.
@@Harmony233 your right bro , I’d rather him show a little more remorse or concern for some of his behavior over the yrs , sometimes I still see the arrogant narcissistic person he’s always been , pathetic
Nelson had a thing with Trade? Why am i not surprised lol.
Please Nelson come back.
this is sooo cool! im not even gay but i absolutley love this!!!
Awwwww Nelson! ❤️💖❤️💖
Although I'm curious I'm glad Michael isn't stooping to tarnish Nelson's good name 🙏
You can really see how things are falling apart in your friendship here
Whats odd is that nostalgia is the only reason you were able to do what you did Ernie, because Michael could never really recover after he did what he did was incarcerated for so long, he never knew how else to be
The documentary stitch up Glory Daze where they hot mic him and James making jokes about Angel's body was so evil, it was dark humour, i am all for that kind of humour, but it really just wasnt in the same realm as that, it showed a lot, he seem to be able to flick between supposed remorse and then these inappropriate shallow flippant jokes depending on the company
It only really ever seemed that he was only really devastated by everything he lost
His behaviour on the talk shows and the increasing depravity of the party themes were huge give aways to this and I genuinely believe we see more the real him when he was with James than when was is with you
He was just able to shape into what you wanted him to be for all the time he manipulated you, but just couldnt keep up the facade forever
If he had have been able achieve come huge comeback success with all his endeavours, then I genuinely fear things would have gone the same way
We had a mini revival in East London around 2012/13 of the NYC club kid scene, even Larry Tee was around here for that period and it was very much an echo of what i see in the 5th ave videos and all the stories and documentaries, i had to leave after about a year as i became heavily involved and it started to destroy my mind, because for all the pretty colours and costumes, the minute it becomes vacuous hedonism, it becomes and empty existence
👑 Michael, you look fabulous ! Think pink ! 💕💕. And you look a little tan ! ☀️ 👌🏻. ❤️ oh btw I love hearing you and Ernie’s stories. I knew a few of those people in Atlanta before they moved to NYC . I had a huge crush on Trade . He was gorgeous! LOL ! 😉 bye!!💋
@@quuhod Michael has def noticed him. Be nice!
It's funny because one of Nelson's videos he taped is him complaining and talking shit about Michael because he wasn't invited to a party or dinner he was having
i wanna know what happen to albert crudo
He's still around but I'm not sure what he's doing. He sent his regards late last year.
What about Trade? Is he still around?
Thank you can’t get enough of Nelson, you guys look so handsome, I enjoy you two 💕
I'm leaving at 10 minutes. I wish you commented about the xmas party you had
Rip michael you truly will be missed.
im sure comet ping pong will be proud to sponsor you guys!
Michael you look great with the little beard! 👌
Love you guys...
Thank you Alex!
Michael is a liar. He always said Nelson was appropriate and a mentor to them. Now he's saying he thinks he'd try to sleep with him. Nah Nelson seen right through him. He even said it in a video. That's why Ernie was like "what? 🥴
Nelson spent a lot of at home time with RuPaul but then again no one really knows RuPaul.
Michael seemed very sad💔
Ernie seems so pushy against Nelson
He talks like he hardly knew Nelson, but if you watch the DC bus trip, Ernie acts like he's known Nelson a long time.
i think they’re both quite pompous in these videos .
🕯💜🥁💜🕯
I had never heard of Michael Alig, before he died, but he is an interesting person in terms of his success and tragedy. I wish that they had created a grave for him, so that his friends had somewhere to grieve.
Musto, albert not nice people...Very cunning
Lovely Party!!
Michael sounded like he was missing teeth.
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Ernies like. I was at his house but was like hey. How disrespectful. Why TF u there then. My house? I'd be like. This aint no MF free ride.
What a ridiculous comment 😂 seriously…..borderline unhinged
Ok boomers
OK ageist
@@ThePeeew Okay, you got me. But the deal is you guys are presumably in your 50's and you still live your lives like you're stuck in the late 80's. It's not your age, it's your immaturity that's embarrassing to me. But you do you.
Kenia Downing nothing wrong with that, you must still be quite young, it was a much different time & I miss it too!
@@shannontiffany4525 I'm 31. It was a much different time, and these guys, one of whom murdered someone, don't seem to realize that they are no longer in that time. Personal opinion, I don't think it looks respectable to cavort around acting like you're still 21 when you're in your 50's.
Boy
That was a total waste of my time
Two guys sitting around kvetching
Ugh
Too much merca this two guys
Why every time Michael tells a story like this one, i get the feeling that he always had to pretend being gay in order to get that golden ticket into a night life, that could explain everything actually , I have so many gay friends and people in my closest circle are gay, I just don’t see that in him, he’s definitely a gay by choice if so
Weird take bro
I have plenty of friends that you would never know were gay unless they told you. Don't make assumptions about someone's sexuality.
🙄 Ummmm...