Lord of the Flies - Movie Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ส.ค. 2020
- A classic novel by William Golding that has inspired 2 film adaptations, as well as inspired themes among many other pieces of entertainment. Here I compare the 2 films of LORD OF THE FLIES!
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Fun context to the book: "Children being lost on an island and building a society with no adults" was a popular genre at the time, and Golding *hated* it. The man was a school teacher, so he'd had plenty of experience with boys the age of the characters usually in those books, and knew that the way those stories went was absolutely not how it would go down. So, he wrote his own story with how he believed it would actually happen.
And it's the most lasting piece of "school children get stranded on an island" fiction, so... vindication for him I guess...
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@@MichelangeloVA that's largely dependent on the situation. Variables such as how kids were raised, the time this went down and where this went down. I'd say both situations are entirely plausible.
Except Golding was wrong. Look it up. Years after the publication of his book, there was an actual incident where a shipload of school age children were marooned on an island. Not only did they not hunt each other like pigs, they actually built a functioning little society complete with animal enclosures and a small gymnasium. Many have criticized Golding as being too cynical, and in truth, he may just have been.
TH3 F4LC0N it could have gone the other way with just one sociopath with high charisma
@@forsaken841 I need to create a thousand accounts to be able to like this some more. Brilliant and true point.
I've enjoyed this period of "Jeremy just talks about whatever he wants to talk about" so much. Maybe even more than his usual content.
Same. He’s made videos on stuff (like Hannibal) that I don’t think would’ve ever gotten one had the weekly movie schedule continued
@@joshuadistura7450 The Hannibal video is definitely what made me happiest lol
Totally! Much more passion & interest
Agreed. Jeremys best videos are the ones where you can tell he has a lot to say and wants to discuss... To this day, I watch his Star Wars reviews after watching it myself and they’re still great reviews 🤷♂️😂
So we agree; Covid was justified.
Love the irony of the ending. A British officer embarrassed when he sees children hunting each other, while he looks back at his ship, which is doing the exact same thing.
Yes true my emperor
Dew it!!
That and, the British officer is in the same situation. They were waiting to be saved, and he can't save them. He can't be their salvation, because he's also fallen.
🤯 I did not catch that but it's been years . They really tied the room together there didn't they.
This irony is also at the end of the book. Really cool that the film stays true to it.
I dig the Moses vibe you've got going, Jeremy.
His hair is so healthy
All he needs to do is part the red background
He should compare both the 1954 and 1999 adaptation of Animal Farm
Speaking of Moses, he should review The Ten Commandments or The Prince of Egypt or probably both
The legends says that "Because of the endless pandemic, Jeremy selected 2 movies of every known genre and put them into an Arc, sailing away from the madness that 2020 represented".
"And later the children were saved by... Oh let's just say, Moe."
Just seen that episode recently 😂
lol.
I was gonna say this 😂 the Simpsons version is the ultimate version.
I can't think about this film and NOT also think of that episode (and want to *watch* that episode, too) xD
"Kill the dorks."
"Run away."
Wait, so the magic conch shell episode from Spongebob was a Lord of the Flies reference?
+Miguel Silva
Yep.
I too had no idea about the reference.
"All hail the magic conch!!! Wooloolooloolooloo!!!"
No
I knew someone was going to reference SpongeBob lol
Make a wish honey
I remember when my teacher first showed us this movie in freshman year of high school and we thought it was a cool chill movie.....it got dark quick
IKR. I saw it when I was 6.
which one? should i watch the 90s one?
@@arsonistyt8161 both
You guys should also read the book it’s pretty good
They would have you read the book too before watching the movie
This is NOT the image of the lost boys Disney portrayed.
You know what, imagine did a really dark twisted Peter Pan where the lost Boys were all Lord of the Flies level savage and Peter Pan was some psycho cult leader who terrorized Neverland
Funny enough pan brought up lotf in hook
Lort
The vampire hunters movie?
@@Tadicuslegion78 I'd say give the show Once Upon A Time a watch. That has a different take on fairy tales including Peter Pan, Hook and the lost boys.
Piggy's death scene in the 90's movie traumatized the hell outta me as a kid. I couldn't stop crying man.
SAME!
It still hurts
....I need a drink
It was hilarious
Same! Also, I had glasses so I was terrified I’d lose mine one day and have to wear cracked specs
Poor piggy deserved better😭
Best quote in the book: Maybe there is a monster... maybe it's only us.
I remember when this one TH-camr said that if the kids were all girls it would have resulted in chaos, and I was like "did you read the book?"
Lol
Lmao
If they ever were to remake this movie, Robert Eggers would be my pick as director.
Omg that’s a good pick
I just looked up the director of "Witch" to see who I would suggest :) good choice!
Robert Eggers is making a viking revenge movie with the skarsgards bros. Big hype
They did talk about remaking it, with the director: Luca Guadagnino.
It was supposed to have an all female remake.
I wrote a college paper on existentialism based on this book. My whole analysis revolved around the fire. The signal fire in the beginning was the kid's attempt to get rescued. After chaos ensues and they are hunting Ralph, it was the fire that ultimately saved them. Initially used to flush Ralph out, it was the needed signal that brought the adult officer.
Man, I just summed up a 20 page thesis paper in a few sentences. What did I waste all that time in college for? :)
20 pages?
Don't feel bad. I wrote 20 pages about 'Mark Twain' and his works because he helped found the college in 1855. But I am still proud of the diorama I did in high school for LotF
"What did I waste all that time in college for?"
A loooot of people are asking that question these days...
As a former English major, I completely understand how you feel.
How to turn a paragraph into 20 pages? Haha
I'm surprised they haven''t made another Lord of the Flies movie..
Never say never
Lol people are too soft nowadays, no way this gets made these days.
If they did I would choose for it to take place in today's society because I want to see how the kids act compared to the ones from the older generation. It'd be wildly different sure, but in the end it would perhaps fall into chaos like the original film.
The online gaming kids and the social media kids having to deal with a situation like this would be interesting...
@@derrickcrawford1081 technically he didn't lol
Feel like Lord of the Flies is a hard/risky movie to make. You’re casting young kids to become murderous and dark. I want to see a remake but I understand the trepidation. It has to done right.
If you're interested, there was a "real life lord of the flies" scenario (you'll find the Guardian article if you google) where a group of boys from Tonga were stranded on a deserted island for over a year. They actually worked together well and didn't devolve into savages. quite a different story and an interesting read
Can you link it?
Maybe because they are already islanders and not the same culture as the fragile white man
@@xenochris9713 Wikipedia has the article. They were known as the Tongan Castaways. They got stuck in the 1960s.
The part in the book where the "hunters" start ganging up on the overweight kid and begin to stab him absolutely mortified me when I was younger
Given how it’s such a classic story I’m surprised that Lord Of The Flies has only been adapted into a movie twice
Basically no one wants to work with that many child actors, especially when they need them to do so many terrible things.
Well, officially yes only twice. But it has been used as inspiration for other movies and has unofficial adaptions as well. Like the Filipino one for example. It's an adoption but uses a different title.
When Jeremy looked down and said "...if we make it that long..." I felt that.
Caught that too huh 😕
The legends says that "Because of the endless pandemic, Jeremy selected 2 movies of every known genre and put them into an Arc, sailing away from the madness that 2020 represented".
The Chaz/Chop was a perfect example of the book in real life.
Yep
Yeah I m pretty sure Jeremy lives in Seattle
Other topical movies could be 1984(cancel culture), The Purge(defund the police), Assult on Precinct 13(Antifa/BLM riots)...the list goes on.
@@spiderjeranimo4992 can't wait for Mad Max
@@theaverageavverix718 oof
Jeremy looks like he has been stranded on an uncharted island himself for quite some time.
John wick....~
He's gone from Keanu to Jesus himself
More like wolverine.
So simply Keanu Reeves
-shhhhh.... no one say "second coming"-
LunarSault23 I see what you did there 😇
Keanu is Jesus tho
Welcome to Jeremy Jahns's "Lost in Adaptation/The Book Was Better."
Just more chill and less exasperation and British sass.
JJ is really talking about the current political landscape of modern times using this review as an outlet.
You're welcome
I'm thinking a R-rated modern retelling of Lord of the Flies would be a good thing...
But sadly I dun think we shud put any more ideas in the heads of today’s youths. They crazy enough >__
@@waterywingz *Don't, *should, *they're. Maybe fix your grammar, boomer.
LegoTurtle Brickfilms y u pissed? Did I offend you? R u part of “today’s youths”? R u “crazy”? If not, then I wasn’t talking bout u, was I. If yes, then find more meaningful things to do than going around correcting pplz spelling n grammar 🙄
@@waterywingz ok boomer
@@waterywingz Jesus christ just type like a normal person please
I feel like you’ve been slowly transforming into Wolverine
"I can't see without my glasses" That made me sad. What he wasn't able to see later made my jaw drop as a kid.
Piggy was a warning to never get attached to weak and sympathetic character.
It really makes you hate kids.
No, Piggy was a warning not to put your faith in brute strength. Out of the main characters in the novel, Piggy is the weakest, but he's also the smartest. But the boys aren't mature enough to understand that Piggy is actually more valuable than Jack, who is physically the strongest character. And so the weakest is eventually killed, as in nature - despite the fact that Piggy was actually their most valuable resource. But even Piggy wasn't the hero of the book. The hero of the book is Simon, who represents Man's spiritual nature. Jack is physicality, Piggy is intellectualism, Simon is spirituality, and Ralph is the everyman caught in the middle. The point of the book is that when the shit hits the fan, brute strength and savagery will kill off the other two aspects. Piggy's and Simon's deaths are symbolic, showing that only physical aggression remains. But Simon is still the hero, because only he never does anything wrong. Even Piggy tries to distance himself from taking part in killing Simon.
@@TH3F4LC0Nx I didn't mean from a moral standpoint. I meant from a future books readings. In most stories good, kind-hearted characters like Piggy don't make it to the end. Fodder to push the main character to the end.
@@HyperionWasabi Oh, I gotcha! Yeah, that's a pretty reliable rule, truth be told.
I saw the 90's version when I was a kid. That movie was probably my first experience being traumatized from a movie. It was the part when they dropped a rock on that one kid's head (I think they called him Piggy).
That part freaked me out for days afterwards.
I read lord of the Flies back in the 80s. It was meant for the kids in the final year.. but our English teacher made us read it in the first year. What a great book.. and teacher 😁
My honest take: stranger things got milked for 3 seasons, so I wouldn’t not mind at all, a 12 or 13 episode _Lord Of The Flies_ series in Netflix, 1 episode for each chapter and maybe the last chapter a two parter. You probably cant fit each chapter into 30~60 minutes, but hey the older film did a good job with 90 minutes.
Jeremy: "adults can put on mask and navigate through certain situations
Me: "uhhhh....are you sure sure about that???"🤨🤨
...Just realized you've never reviewed Jaws. Would like to hear your thoughts on the first blockbuster, oh majestically bearded one!
All hail the bearded one.
I've been telling him since March to review that movie. Its my favorite film of all time
Hail hail!
Just finished reading this book, I’m in 8th grade. It was uh- INTERESTING to see the classes reactions to certain events that take place. Sadly a lot of people spoiled the book to others so... that was nice. This book is probably my favorite book we’ve read in school so far.
Cool fact I literally JUST REMEMBERED: Lord of the Flies can be translated to Beelzebub, which is another name for Satan.
I read this in high school
My favorite of all time.
TKAM was my favorite but I definitely enjoyed Lord of the Flies
I’m reading this rn
I'm reading
Same
I want a Laika Studios adaptation of this book, STAT.
Still waiting for your bioshock infinite spoiler review
Me too, my friend. Me too.
It’s so special to see you evolve and grow over the years, Jeremy. I love your in depth analysis and wisdom you bring to your reviews from your childhood and adult perspective. Really special
LOTF is one of the few books I absolutely loved reading in school. I had to watch the older film afterwards and I immediately thought the book was better. Then I saw the 1990s film and immediately thought the older film was better.
Jeremy please review the Netflix series DARK, I think you’d love it
My brother in law really, really wants me to see it too.
It's good. Slow suspense that gets more and more complex as pieces fall into place. One of those watch twice type shows. I Peter the sub titled version but the dub is not bad.
Is this what Jennifer Lawrence and Bradley Cooper's characters talked about in Silver Linings Playbook?
Juncel Carreon Yep
TGDS
Uselessly forced? Couldnt that be said about any reading assignment?
Every day Jeremy gets a little closer to How To Train Your Dragon 3 Hiccup.
XD
Hahahha drying 🤣🤣🤣
Wish the Vlogs would return :((
We’d get to know “why the beard”.. Gypsie and Daisy .. how you are.. Miss all that
V Lili danger, not daisy isn’t it?
Bazinga! Yep. One is Gypsy and one is Danger. They were named after the robot in Pacific Rim
I’m sorry what? Vlogs? The Big Jahns used to vlog?
I remember reading this book for school.
Jeremy doing these kinds of experimental reviews is one of the very few silver linings of the pandemic. Would love for him to keep this up when things hopefully get better.
I hope he does the same with “Apocalypse now” and “heart of darkness” since apocalypse now is based of that book.
One of the stronger points of the 1963 adaption is there were some moments where they just let the boys do their own thing and they just filmed it. It gives more of a genuine feel
My struggle is why, many years into this, you haven't blown up enormously in popularity vs I think it's awesome you're still making these cool reviews. Not sure I made sense, but I understood it.
"If we make it that long." Heart sank... SOOO much truth to that simple statement. Great Job Jeremy!
Ah, man. It's Sophomore year English class all over again.
Currently having to read this for summer work 😔
@@presleyspicer6853 Me too! Are you in a program by any chance? Or does your school just give everyone summer work?
The whole pandemic thing is an unfortunate circumstance for sure, but this has been a great time for this channel imo. He's got the opportunity to branch out instead of having to keep up with what's in theaters/new games
To reference what another popular comment said, Jeremy is one of the few TH-camrs I genuinely enjoy listening to him talk about just "stuff" and life in general. He seems to be very insightful about a lot of things.
Lord of the flies was one of my favourite books I read as a kid. Never watched the movies - didn't even know they existed until this video appeared in my recommendations. I haven't read the books in many years. I only remember the main premise of the book and a few random scenes here and there. So this sounds like the perfect opportunity to revisit one of my favourite childhood stories.
I am just here to say thank you for making this video.
I remember my teacher talking about the book and the movie they made
I told her she got confused with lord of the rings and she got really pissed for some reason
Gee, I wonder why? XD
Spongebob had a similar reference with the whole “Magic conch shell”.
I Never thought out about that
I’m glad I finally finish reading the book before see Jeremy’s review helps build perspective on what you miss and give you idea’s to help understand the theme go from book to film
Actually a pretty good review of all three! I enjoyed your takes and readings on them. It was very clear from the beginning you read the book recently too! I’ve never thought about the social mask thing, but I like it. I think early on you can see Jack is kinda of able to control or even mask his personality to be more friendly. And then by the end you can maybe see Ralph doing it more as he tries to survive everything breaking up and changing. Interesting points. I liked hearing it! :)
Everyone should read the book every 10 years or so.
Its a good book. Takes a while to get used to the writing style, IMO. You should read The Troop. Its a horror, taking from Stephen King and Lord of the Flies. Now that's a book.
Wasn't the Joker wrong in TDK though? The people in the boat didn't kill each other and Batman didn't kill him.
he was wrong in the movie. in the real world he was 100% correct.
movie: we would rather die than kill innocents.
real world: we would rather kill loads of old people rather than put on a small mask.
@@michaeljeacock lol true
@@michaeljeacock Damn...
Jeremy I actually find your reviews a lot more entertaining when you’re talking about things that you care about over the newer releases keep it up
Love seeing a classic movie review from you Jeremy, would definitely want to see more!
You should watch and review Batman and Bill, its a documentary about Batman creator that never got the credit he deserved.
At this rate I expect you to soon show up in a bathrobe with a white russian in your hand, The Big Jahns
Yes......the jahn abides
We should definitely start calling Jeremy The Dude, or Duder (or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing).
Thank you. I needed to decide which version to show to my students after we finish the book and you made that decision easy for me. Well done. 👍👍
Read it in middle school in 2006. It’s still my favorite book to this day. I love the way you explain it. I couldn’t agree more.
Jeremy you've got the beard, now you just need the adamantium claws.
Jeremy’s shortest review
The whole movie in one sentence
“...for centuries to come... If we make that long”
Very good review, Mr Jahns. Some quick notes: excellent beard, overjoyed that you promoted the Richard Brooks classic film. Yes, I agree that the book is superior, but this is the better film treatment. I would be interested to hear your take on other classic films. I was thinking specifically of Kurosawa’s classic samurai films - Sanjuro, Yojimbo, and the Seven Samurai. It is true that most of your TH-cam audience would not know these great films, but you would help to address that deficit in their cultural education. Thank you for listening. Please continue. Your reviews have helped to make a tedious isolation more tolerable. Thanks.
Jeremy this is probably one of your best videos. Keep up the great work- more content like this!
Lord of the flies is a book and movie everyone should watch in school because it’s actually smart and useful, To kill a mocking bird and lord of the flies are actually good books to read in high school
I think Lord of the Flies is a very important book, but I'm conflicted as to how accurate a portrayal of human nature it really is. Many have argued that Golding was overly cynical in his assessment of humanity, and after learning that there actually was an instance of schoolboys being marooned on an island - and that they didn't violently murder each other - I can kinda lean that way. Still, it's a great book that should be read by everyone.
And animal farm
Jeremy’s beard was built for movies like this...
Your work ethic is crazy. This analysis was great!!
Some reviews i would love to see you do: Ang Lees Hulk, From dusk till dawn (movie), Blade triology (at least the first one).
Keep up the good work. Love your videos
Golding was an early male feminist in many ways. He often talked about the male gender as some what lacking to say the least. It did not stop him from writing a fantastic insight into the animalistic side of human nature.
Well, it's kind of a good thing there were no female characters in Lord of the Flies, because then the book would have gotten a whole different kind of dark! XD
@@TH3F4LC0Nx
What are you implying?
@@xXBlackSilverXx Not really simping considering that the book was written less than a generation after women were first allowed to vote.
If you don't think the male gender had some major issues back then then you're still probably carrying them yourself.
I can still remember the disappointment on my high school English teacher’s face when he couldn’t rent the ‘63 version and in stead showed us the ‘90 version after the class finished the book.
🤣 yeah my mother shown me lord of the flies when I was a child the 1963 one
These vids is why I love this channel. Refreshing.
Lord of the Flies is my personal favorite book and it was awesome to see a notification of this. I definitely agree the 60’s film is superior just with the tone and the acting and since it actually was a project intended to help teach school readers about the book it’s a remarkable adaptation. Great to see more content about this awesome story!
Brit here and I agree, 63 has a real Erie time to it like the man said in the video kids screaming at nothing and doing mad things.
I recomend everyone watch benjamin boyce’s multi-part documentary on Evergreen state college. It has lord of the flies written eerily all over it
Jeremy *NEEDS* to review The Sopranos and Avatar: The Last Airbender series.
I love this in depth discussion. Please do more book/movie discussions!
I just watched both films and I agree 100% with your take on them. The 1963 film is amazing, especially for its time and what it is. 1990 isn't a bad movie, but it really feels like a disappointment compared to the other one. It really just doesn't hit as hard and feels unfinished in a way.
Exactly
Lord of the rings is..awesometacular
Review the last samurai, a few good men and Troy pleassseeee!!!
2 in my opinion mediocre Tom Cruise film and a really fun bloody Sword and Sandle flick. I fucking love Troy. Such an underrated film in my opinion
I'd like to hear his thoughts on Rain Man and The Color of Money
@@hulkfan97 Nah, Last Samurai is a great movie. Just not a masterpiece or realistic or anything. Hans Zimmer's score alone is fantastic.
I love this new format of videos. Love the hair also
Would love more of these kinds of videos. Adaptation Reviews are great.
I keep thinking Jeremy is young Charlton Heston in the ten commandments.
The Society is a pretty good modern take on the concept of Lord of the Flies
Watched the 60s movie this morning. Crazy that you did a review for it
One of my favorite films when I was growing up. Keep up the throwbacks Jeremy 💯🤙🏽
You HAVE to review "The Exigency" on Amazon Prime - Austin McConnell reviewed it on his channel and said it was one of the best movies of 2020!
Yessssss do it!
Some years ago, there was talk of another Lord of the Flies remake which would feature an all-female cast. Do you think the story would work if it were a group of girls instead of boys? Would it make sense for things to go down the way they did if all the characters were female?
I think what made lord of the flies what it is, is that these were young boys. Golding knew how cruel these boys could be and I think if it were a group of girls the story would be different in retrospect. It would probably take a lot longer for the girls to go crazy and I genuinely think had it been about girls it would never have taken a dark twist. Golding himself even said how if it were girls they would've been fine. I'd love to see what they could do with the story but with girls but realistically it would be extremely boring
Liking the new vids a lot Jeremy. YOU ROCK!
I stopped trying to learn something from cinema around the time of the release of The Constant Gardener, but I'm cool with you throwing in reviews on classics. Plan on watching Citizen Caine and Dr. Strangelove in the near future. Interested in hearing your take on both.
"I'm so hungry I can eat Arby's".
Jeremy is starting to look like he's stranded on an island himself.
Maybe Wilson will be in the next review.
Man you are so cool!!! I love your reviews. Ps the beard is amazing
Refreshing Jeremy !!! I appreciate this kind of content.
When I was a kid I thought Lord of The Rings and Lord of the Flies were part of the same series.
We all know that one Simpsons episode is the best incarnation of the book, right?
Book+movie+movie review from Jeremy? Count me in
I have always thought the Lord of the flies as the Ruler of the flies (children in this case) and that they were weak indeed. But for some time and because of lack of law, they felt like the ultimate power on the island. The name of the book hinted about a temporary power and it was abused by the children. They can only realize it when they meet the real power.