I work at a used car lot and do a lot of car wash scratch vehicles, at least 2 a week. I do a lot of wet sanding when they’re bad enough and I’m payed hourly, only 16.50. The dealership is platinum quality, and the work I do for them is platinum quality. Although they’re so uneducated on paint correction that they don’t know how to value it. Before I started they were still using rotary and finishing with a random DA. I made them get Rupes for me and the other guy. Since then the work has been better than ever. I’m gonna have to show them this video, because we can only charge a max of 300 per vehicle due to internal pricing. So I’m really doing $500 plus jobs daily. I clay and prep every vehicle for a two step process, unless it’s silver or gold. It’s very defeating knowing how hard you work and knowing your value and getting shit pay. Moral of the story is this video made me realize that paint correction is not cheap. I’m gonna use this video to maybe convince my GM to get some better compensation at work. Sorry for the rabble, just wanted to come a place where I’m understood. You guys are awesome for this video!
Brian Galvan they ended up giving me a commission rate. $60 for sedans and $80 for suvs and pick ups. Still kinda sucks but it’s also a dealership so I gotta pick and choose my battles. It’s better than before that’s for sure.
I got a good laugh reading some of these comments. Do you really think ANY dual action polisher is going to TOTALLY perfect a vehicle that has defects of this amount? This isn't a SHOW TRUCK that sits in a garage 360 of 365 days in a year. This is a DAILY DRIVEN vehicle that has 200k miles! After 2 steps 80% of the defects are gone, expecting more is ridiculous!
I feel for you guys making videos when the keyboard sniper detailer's try and take a shot. Panel looks as good as it can minus wet sanding. For anyone working in the real world, they'd understand
Crazy I just did a paint correction on an '05 F150 with black paint pretty close to this! It definitely required 3 steps. I took a slightly different approach than what you showed here. It would be the equivalent of the zephyr on MF, then the green one (quartz?) on foam and then fine polish on a light polishing or finishing pad. 90-95% correction. You guys did a killer job with this video! Keep up the great work!!!!
Thanks for sharing this experience. Actually, this truck is the real world example just like my truck, full of scratches, chips, and marks. A disappointing fact on youtube is that every detailer only shows their products and efforts on a nearly brand new car which is bullshit bc all that need is a car wash.
Great demonstration Dylan and Levi. I think many misinterpreted the point of the video. As they say everyone's a critic and you can't please everyone .
I'd never heard the term step down panel. Makes perfect sense! Can you guys sometime cover how many passes and pad cleaning as you move along and when you should swap out pads? Also perhaps how to determine when you might mix say a course compound with a finer pad?
With microfiber, after every 2x2 i'll blow the pad out. Wash the pad after every panel, or half panel. With foam, after every 2x2 i'll use a MF cloth and rub the pad around on it and wash the pad after every panel.
Awesome video! As it happens, I have a black 2007 F-150 with 170K on the clock and have just purchased the 15 Mark II kit with the four polishes/pads, apron, etc. I bought the kit because I also have a black 2017 Z06. The F-150 is going to be the test mule so that when driving weather returns (Seattle) I'll have developed some technique to keep the Corvette looking great. Great video series with Rupes. Keep up the good work.
OMG!!!! First time owner of a RUPES 21mkII deluxe edition bag with the 4 small compounds bottles color coded. I have not used it yet just bought it today. I bought this for personal use and do some friends cars. I have watched 2 hours of video manuals do say much. You made a small as$ remark thinking everyone should know. BUT, we color coded the bottles with the pads........................... oh i feel like a dumb as$ not figuring that out. So thank you for the wonderful explanation on the products, features, advantages and benefits. (FAB) approach. Looking forward in watching more videos.
Maybe this is a stupid question. But how Do you even it out if you went on top demonstrate what you can do in 4 steps. And the client chooses to only let you do 1 step. Just accept that there is a more clear part on the panel of what is the way to go
Great video that will help me explain my clients on what they want to be done on their cars for those in a budget but I think the reason of many are reacting to the video is the title, my opinion is that it shouldn’t say “paint correction” at all.
That compound cuts pretty hard. I wouldn't be surprised if the pad was loaded after the first couple passes. Every time I use Zephir with microfiber pads, it loads up very quickly.
just wondering, could you not sort of figure out which panel was repainted using a paint depth gauge? because the rest of the car would probably have a similar paint depth and the painted panel would be slightly different, in theory anyway. But not sure it would work? Just thinking it could possibly save having to do two test panels
I bought a SUV off a car lot that was recently repainted with Single Stage black and neglected as a daily driver. It has lots of defects and I was able to clean it up by polishing. I started with a DA and eventually switched to a rotary. I experimented with different compounds DAT & SMAT and later finished with a sealant that has a cleaning polish. The truck looks sharp with a few minor defects, I get some attention driving it around town.
Good results consider how traded the clear was. I'd go with my Flex3401 over my long throw D.A or the rotary first followed by the long throw. The Flex isn't always my first choice but for this one oh yeah
Mindblown at how much even such a clapped out car can be improved; until a few months ago, when my car obsession hadn't progressed to the paint and detailing aspect of things, I'd have just taken a car like that in for a new paint job; I know so much more now. Also mindblown at some of the comments; it's almost as if they were watching the video but listening to nothing that was being said and instead their minds were furiously planning and plotting and thinking of all they thought was wrong with the demo; way to miss the entire point of and message behind the video 😐
I really cannot believe its been 2 years since i watched this video the first time, and had to constantly nag my ''Rupes dealer'' to get me the new MF cutting pads :D
Now ... how does a car get that scratched to begin with ? I'm a finisher for luxury boats, I know that gelcoat and paint are two very different things, but the basics remain the same, we're just allowed to apply a lot more heat to gelcoats to help remove deeper scratches, but polishing is roughly the same process.
If you hit that with a rotary buffer first with some good old 3m perfect it compound a lot more of those deep halo scratches could of came out that I can still see without wetsanding then I would of hit it with rupes and an orbital for better results than what you got.
I'm about to buy the Rupes system. However I do think this video could have been done in a way to better showcase the product. I know for a fact my rotary probably in far less time would have done alot better job for the first step in removing scratches. Maybe Rupes should make a more aggressive compound to go with the heavy cutting microfiber pad. Maybe they just didn't put any effort into compounding during the first step. I can tell you I would have expected alot more and would not have been close to satisfied with that result. Just my thoughts. You should always show case what your product can really do.
Yeah, I love the products and support both companies but kinda lame on the actual demo. Wait 10 minutes before a tool hits the paint and then you fast forward the actual polish stage to the wipe off which we get to see in real time. Didn't really teach anyone the proper technique nor was it necessarily used in this demo.
Whoa, there's a lot of swirls left behind. I know you could have hit it again with the MF/compound, but I wouldn't showcase this video. Just my opinion.
mark Saf what video did you watch ?Did you not hear what they said ? You should have kept your opinion to your self or hell make a video showing that extra step you wanted .
They did acknowledge at the beginning that they think this would need wetsanding to really bring it back. I think there is value in that it demonstrates what the most aggressive end of the rupes lineup can achieve in one set; Dylan also pointed this out at the beginning saying that rupes always tests their system on defects they think they won't be able to get out. But there is some irony in talking about additional refinement on paint that is still trashed.
Wetsanding, yes, but they could have made it look much better with one more focused compounding pass. Plus, a second pass after the pad has been primed will yield much better results. It is ironic to refine the finish, so the deeper swirls become more clear? Didn't strip polishing oils either, so the polishes were filling to some degree. These guys definitely know what they're doing, I just think they could have made a better video.
Guys, you are missing the entire point of what the video was. It wasn't to showcase the capabilities of our system, it really wasn't even to demonstrate levels of correction. It was to show a process that anyone can deploy in their business to help customers understand the difference between the number of passes vs. their expected result and budget. Thats it. My reputation is such that I don't need to prove my ability to correct a panel - this is a business lesson more than a detailing lesson. If you didn't take that away from the video then I'm sorry it wasn't more clear for you. When you have a moment give this a read: facebook.com/notes/dylan-von-kleist/the-sniper-culture-of-detailing/1098094676895539/
13:45 So if I use your crappy products, I can charge my customers for the time it took to do extra steps!? Awesome, I love wasting my customers' money!
"The end is the guy taking it to a car show" You've got to be kidding me...lol! As I said before, this is not a good video to showcase the system. Fanboys, don't get butt hurt.
Nope, I'm not a sniper, I just call it as it is. Way too many people who want to stay in the "cool" klan by sucking up. Dylan, I know you're an expert detailer. That's obvious because of your job. The title of the video is "Rupes Paint Correction". Well, I feel the panel could have been showcased a lot better. Nothing more, nothing less.
I work at a used car lot and do a lot of car wash scratch vehicles, at least 2 a week. I do a lot of wet sanding when they’re bad enough and I’m payed hourly, only 16.50. The dealership is platinum quality, and the work I do for them is platinum quality. Although they’re so uneducated on paint correction that they don’t know how to value it. Before I started they were still using rotary and finishing with a random DA. I made them get Rupes for me and the other guy. Since then the work has been better than ever. I’m gonna have to show them this video, because we can only charge a max of 300 per vehicle due to internal pricing. So I’m really doing $500 plus jobs daily. I clay and prep every vehicle for a two step process, unless it’s silver or gold. It’s very defeating knowing how hard you work and knowing your value and getting shit pay. Moral of the story is this video made me realize that paint correction is not cheap. I’m gonna use this video to maybe convince my GM to get some better compensation at work. Sorry for the rabble, just wanted to come a place where I’m understood. You guys are awesome for this video!
Edwin Garcia so what ended up happening?
Brian Galvan they ended up giving me a commission rate. $60 for sedans and $80 for suvs and pick ups. Still kinda sucks but it’s also a dealership so I gotta pick and choose my battles. It’s better than before that’s for sure.
Bro start your own detail service fuck having a GM
I'll just give this small piece of advice... know your worth.
I got a good laugh reading some of these comments. Do you really think ANY dual action polisher is going to TOTALLY perfect a vehicle that has defects of this amount? This isn't a SHOW TRUCK that sits in a garage 360 of 365 days in a year. This is a DAILY DRIVEN vehicle that has 200k miles! After 2 steps 80% of the defects are gone, expecting more is ridiculous!
joe..your comment was right on mark! awesome!!
A DA with sanding discs followed by these steps would get close!
I feel for you guys making videos when the keyboard sniper detailer's try and take a shot. Panel looks as good as it can minus wet sanding. For anyone working in the real world, they'd understand
Dylan has such a friendly vibe. Could watch him teach all day long.
Crazy I just did a paint correction on an '05 F150 with black paint pretty close to this! It definitely required 3 steps. I took a slightly different approach than what you showed here. It would be the equivalent of the zephyr on MF, then the green one (quartz?) on foam and then fine polish on a light polishing or finishing pad. 90-95% correction. You guys did a killer job with this video! Keep up the great work!!!!
I didn’t know David Cross done paint correction!!! Awesome!!
They never said it was going to be perfect, just better. The lesson is technique. It looks much better to me! It may never be perfect.
Paycheck409 your could always sand it down and do a 2 step
Thanks for sharing this experience. Actually, this truck is the real world example just like my truck, full of scratches, chips, and marks. A disappointing fact on youtube is that every detailer only shows their products and efforts on a nearly brand new car which is bullshit bc all that need is a car wash.
Great demonstration Dylan and Levi. I think many misinterpreted the point of the video. As they say everyone's a critic and you can't please everyone .
I'd never heard the term step down panel. Makes perfect sense! Can you guys sometime cover how many passes and pad cleaning as you move along and when you should swap out pads? Also perhaps how to determine when you might mix say a course compound with a finer pad?
With microfiber, after every 2x2 i'll blow the pad out. Wash the pad after every panel, or half panel.
With foam, after every 2x2 i'll use a MF cloth and rub the pad around on it and wash the pad after every panel.
Thought I made a comment on this. Wondering if it would be advisable to follow up with Bead Maker as you recommend when using UNO Protect. Thanks Jim
just did a black ford truck with a lhr15 mk 1 and blue foam customer was thrilled. what does the mkll and mk lll offer over my older machine?
Love my LHR15 mk2 & LHR75E. Haven't tried the mf pads yet though. Keen to try the new ones here in the UK when they arrive.
Awesome video! As it happens, I have a black 2007 F-150 with 170K on the clock and have just purchased the 15 Mark II kit with the four polishes/pads, apron, etc. I bought the kit because I also have a black 2017 Z06. The F-150 is going to be the test mule so that when driving weather returns (Seattle) I'll have developed some technique to keep the Corvette looking great.
Great video series with Rupes. Keep up the good work.
Love this. I want to use this video to explain the difference to any of my customers
OMG!!!! First time owner of a RUPES 21mkII deluxe edition bag with the 4 small compounds bottles color coded. I have not used it yet just bought it today. I bought this for personal use and do some friends cars. I have watched 2 hours of video manuals do say much. You made a small as$ remark thinking everyone should know. BUT, we color coded the bottles with the pads........................... oh i feel like a dumb as$ not figuring that out. So thank you for the wonderful explanation on the products, features, advantages and benefits. (FAB) approach. Looking forward in watching more videos.
Maybe this is a stupid question. But how Do you even it out if you went on top demonstrate what you can do in 4 steps. And the client chooses to only let you do 1 step. Just accept that there is a more clear part on the panel of what is the way to go
Great video guys. Love the step comparison... very educational.
I always do the last step with the white pad on my AMG. My coworkers can't figure out how my car looks new all the time ;)
What color is your car
@@robertfowler217 BLACK
What compounds and polishes were used????
Great information and explanation 👌🏻👍🏻
Great tips guys keep them coming
Great video that will help me explain my clients on what they want to be done on their cars for those in a budget but I think the reason of many are reacting to the video is the title, my opinion is that it shouldn’t say “paint correction” at all.
That compound cuts pretty hard. I wouldn't be surprised if the pad was loaded after the first couple passes. Every time I use Zephir with microfiber pads, it loads up very quickly.
just wondering, could you not sort of figure out which panel was repainted using a paint depth gauge? because the rest of the car would probably have a similar paint depth and the painted panel would be slightly different, in theory anyway. But not sure it would work? Just thinking it could possibly save having to do two test panels
Yeah absolutely. Generally its significantly thicker than factory paint especially if there was body work done.
Show us the compound you are using? Please
What’s the light brand?
I bought a SUV off a car lot that was recently repainted with Single Stage black and neglected as a daily driver. It has lots of defects and I was able to clean it up by polishing. I started with a DA and eventually switched to a rotary. I experimented with different compounds DAT & SMAT and later finished with a sealant that has a cleaning polish. The truck looks sharp with a few minor defects, I get some attention driving it around town.
Hi how many pads would you use on a regular car cheer,s malc
Skip ahead to 10:00 to get to actual demo
Great informational video
Damn I guess I’m cheap! On my prices .. need to start charging more
Good results consider how traded the clear was.
I'd go with my Flex3401 over my long throw D.A or the rotary first followed by the long throw.
The Flex isn't always my first choice but for this one oh yeah
3401 cuts slower than long throws. Only thing better than Rupes+mf/wool is rotary with twisted woolpad.
Hey, that guy used to work for Adams!!!! :)
Mindblown at how much even such a clapped out car can be improved; until a few months ago, when my car obsession hadn't progressed to the paint and detailing aspect of things, I'd have just taken a car like that in for a new paint job; I know so much more now. Also mindblown at some of the comments; it's almost as if they were watching the video but listening to nothing that was being said and instead their minds were furiously planning and plotting and thinking of all they thought was wrong with the demo; way to miss the entire point of and message behind the video 😐
Why does polishing kamikaze collection in they videos on speed 6 and more?
U didnt use ipa or something for wipe down
Panel is full of polish oils and we cant see what u did to correct that panel
Great video
I really cannot believe its been 2 years since i watched this video the first time, and had to constantly nag my ''Rupes dealer'' to get me the new MF cutting pads :D
Well this method will save me time, thank you very much guys!
Now ... how does a car get that scratched to begin with ?
I'm a finisher for luxury boats, I know that gelcoat and paint are two very different things, but the basics remain the same, we're just allowed to apply a lot more heat to gelcoats to help remove deeper scratches, but polishing is roughly the same process.
At 4:34- "...this thing was basically washed with (I think) playground sand and a cinder block..." LOL!!!
Haha!
great video guys!!
If you hit that with a rotary buffer first with some good old 3m perfect it compound a lot more of those deep halo scratches could of came out that I can still see without wetsanding then I would of hit it with rupes and an orbital for better results than what you got.
What's the name of the light,, is it on amazon?
scangrip, I think it's the scangrip sunmatch. They aren't cheap for definite. not sure if its on amazon though
Perfection = Paint Job
What song is you bg music
the cobweb on the door remained, even in very good light
Oh mr miracles you saved me from something i thank you mister miracle i wont get thrashed again
I'm about to buy the Rupes system. However I do think this video could have been done in a way to better showcase the product. I know for a fact my rotary probably in far less time would have done alot better job for the first step in removing scratches. Maybe Rupes should make a more aggressive compound to go with the heavy cutting microfiber pad. Maybe they just didn't put any effort into compounding during the first step. I can tell you I would have expected alot more and would not have been close to satisfied with that result. Just my thoughts. You should always show case what your product can really do.
the paste is not even warmed up on the body, they just move it around !!! I am the most cheap stuff, + -, I can make a mirror!
Dealerships dont like to spend money..... facts
I would use a regular buffer first on that paint for cutting. Then finish off with DA POLISHER.
Yeah, I love the products and support both companies but kinda lame on the actual demo. Wait 10 minutes before a tool hits the paint and then you fast forward the actual polish stage to the wipe off which we get to see in real time. Didn't really teach anyone the proper technique nor was it necessarily used in this demo.
LOL truck looks like my 2018 type r after first winter. Sigh
If you're good then color shouldn't matter.
really ??????????????????????????????
I'll take 3 step for $200
must of used that buffing machine on his bald head HAHAHA
For me is not god result!
Without rotary on shit paint the results isn't satisfied
Whoa, there's a lot of swirls left behind. I know you could have hit it again with the MF/compound, but I wouldn't showcase this video. Just my opinion.
mark Saf what video did you watch ?Did you not hear what they said ? You should have kept your opinion to your self or hell make a video showing that extra step you wanted .
Wow, calm down! I know what the Rupes system is capable of and this video sure doesn't showcase it.
They did acknowledge at the beginning that they think this would need wetsanding to really bring it back. I think there is value in that it demonstrates what the most aggressive end of the rupes lineup can achieve in one set; Dylan also pointed this out at the beginning saying that rupes always tests their system on defects they think they won't be able to get out. But there is some irony in talking about additional refinement on paint that is still trashed.
Wetsanding, yes, but they could have made it look much better with one more focused compounding pass. Plus, a second pass after the pad has been primed will yield much better results. It is ironic to refine the finish, so the deeper swirls become more clear? Didn't strip polishing oils either, so the polishes were filling to some degree. These guys definitely know what they're doing, I just think they could have made a better video.
Guys, you are missing the entire point of what the video was. It wasn't to showcase the capabilities of our system, it really wasn't even to demonstrate levels of correction. It was to show a process that anyone can deploy in their business to help customers understand the difference between the number of passes vs. their expected result and budget. Thats it. My reputation is such that I don't need to prove my ability to correct a panel - this is a business lesson more than a detailing lesson.
If you didn't take that away from the video then I'm sorry it wasn't more clear for you. When you have a moment give this a read: facebook.com/notes/dylan-von-kleist/the-sniper-culture-of-detailing/1098094676895539/
13:45 So if I use your crappy products, I can charge my customers for the time it took to do extra steps!? Awesome, I love wasting my customers' money!
@stephen Bone I don't speak stupid bud. Someone translate pls
"The end is the guy taking it to a car show" You've got to be kidding me...lol! As I said before, this is not a good video to showcase the system. Fanboys, don't get butt hurt.
To much talking , let's get to polishing already
I think y’all need to talk a little more. Jesus. Get to it.
Wow, horrible paint correction. He shouldn't be polishing, the towel was the only thing that work. He shouldn't be working for Rupes!!!!
The guy above got his feelings hurt when I posted something similar above. This is not a good video to showcase Rupes.
Nope, I'm not a sniper, I just call it as it is. Way too many people who want to stay in the "cool" klan by sucking up. Dylan, I know you're an expert detailer. That's obvious because of your job. The title of the video is "Rupes Paint Correction". Well, I feel the panel could have been showcased a lot better. Nothing more, nothing less.
Yea