INSANE Suspension Overhaul! LSD, M3 Arms, 15" Conversion, Solid Subframe Mounts + MUCH MORE!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.พ. 2020
- For the longest time I wanted to go "full racecar" with my 2008 BMW 135i. Well today, I finally did it. It felt good to replace all of the stock 125k mile components with new upgraded parts! Everything you'll need to do this is linked below...
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Rosenbauer's Garage (Kiel, WI): / rosenbauers-garage-855...
Rear:
MFactory 3.08 LSD (manual): bit.ly/2ZqtxK9
MFactory 3.46 LSD (automatic): bit.ly/36WXPUg
Motul 75W90 Diff Fluid (2 qts): amzn.to/2GTJgGv
BMS differential brace: bit.ly/329Kara
Powerflex diff bushings: bit.ly/2ZpOpNq & bit.ly/2Zw40Px
BimmerWorld solid rear subframe mounts: bit.ly/2Hr9TmL
BimmerWorld adjustable rear toe arms: bit.ly/30L18fi
ECS Tuning upgraded rear trailing arms: bit.ly/30B5PYO
BimmerWorld rear trailing arm bearings: bit.ly/2L057z3
M3 rear wishbone kit: bit.ly/2Zrx5aN
M3 rear guide rod kit: bit.ly/2Zicvyx
BimmerWorld rear camber arm bearing kit (inner): bit.ly/325UbFJ
OEM rear camber arm bushings (outer): bit.ly/33YmFmF
OEM rear shock mounts (lower): bit.ly/30FuQCj
DSS 1000HP axles: bit.ly/2Zv5be7
Front:
M3 front control arm kit: bit.ly/2Pj2bSb
BimmerWorld M3 front control arm bearing upgrade: bit.ly/2NM5A9Z
Front tie rod kit: bit.ly/2UaymSs
15" Rear Wheel/Brake/Hub Conversion:
Rear calipers: bit.ly/2LaHD9g & bit.ly/2Zg24eG
Rear rotors and pads: ebay.to/2GTkPt1
Stainless brake set screws (x4): bit.ly/2L1WEvk
3 series rear hub (x2) (E82 only): bit.ly/2MGxLqP
Rear wheel bearing kit (x2) (E82 only): bit.ly/341a41W
15x10" Forgestar F14 wheels: ebay.to/2RYSKqm
Hubcentric rings for Forgestar wheels: ebay.to/36X8azC
Miscellaneous:
Rear hub conversion for 135i with stock brakes: bit.ly/36TFJT7
17x9" APEX ARC-8 wheels: bit.ly/2Op8wZh
275/40/17 Mickey Thompson ET Street R: ebay.to/39c8ITF
Competition Engineering adjustable drag shocks: ebay.to/2GYm3Tu
Eibach Pro-Kit lowering springs: bit.ly/2HFyfqm
Wheel stud conversion kit: bit.ly/2zPJ7mW
Front brake rotors and pads: ebay.to/37YsSAF
1L DOT4 brake fluid: bit.ly/2OthpkD
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🚀 2008 BMW 135i (752whp/691wtq) 🚀
Complete Build Log: my1series.com
PERFORMANCE
- Doc Race 6266 Single Turbo Kit: bit.ly/302yZjz
- Doc Race Intake Manifold & PI Kit: bit.ly/2PO3CEI
- Doc Race 3" Charge Pipe: bit.ly/2VjciZQ
- TiAL Q Blow Off Valve: amzn.to/2HdILpt
- VRSF 7.5" Race Intercooler: bit.ly/2vLjvm8
- PR Ignition Kit: bit.ly/2VUn1cy
- PR Stage 3+ Fuel Pumps: bit.ly/2H6m3k7
- BMS PCV: amzn.to/2H4moF8
- NGK 97506 Spark Plugs @ 0.022": bit.ly/2TvoDVQ
TRANSMISSION (MANUAL)
- SPEC Stage 3+ Clutch: bit.ly/2JsSehU
- Single Mass Flywheel: bit.ly/2JtLtfN
- Race Transmission Mounts: bit.ly/2sOXEJH
- RTD Short Shifter: bit.ly/2vIKzm3
- Upgraded Clutch Delay Valve: bit.ly/2LudXYd
- Clutch Pedal Stop: bit.ly/2Vcjkec
- Royal Purple Trans Fluid (2 qts): amzn.to/2VqSLqF
⛽ BMW OIL CHANGES I SWEAR BY
- Motul X-cess 5W-40 Oil (5L): amzn.to/2HKTbOv
- Motul X-cess 5W-40 Oil (1L) x2: amzn.to/2HbGpqZ
- Mann Oil Filter: amzn.to/2HLiPT5
- Magnetic Drain Plug: amzn.to/2EYwYsV
🔧 TOOLS I LOVE
- BMW Wheel-Saver Socket: amzn.to/2JmOAVq
- BMW Jack Pad Adapter: bit.ly/2V7F7mX
- BMW Magnetic Spark Plug Socket: amzn.to/2VQGaw6
- 200-Piece Tool Kit: amzn.to/2zZlsRd
- Low-Pro Jack: amzn.to/2vq1g8F
- MaxJax Home Garage Lift: bit.ly/2WHGZZm
📸 MY EQUIPMENT
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- Wide Angle Lens: amzn.to/2Uo7pyn
- Canon 50mm Lens: amzn.to/2YVFdkS
- RODE Microphone: amzn.to/2ViStSq
- Fluid Head Tripod: amzn.to/2IPWcix
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sheesh, wish i had the funds to do this right now. favorite “135i/bmw” channel out there. fantastic videos/effort jake!
Thank you! I had some help from a few companies for these parts, it was a great partnership for things I wanted to do anyways. Thanks for watching!
Jeeze, I agree. If I had the funds I'd do the same with my 335. Also agree about the awesome videos!
Enjoying all the videos you've been making. The longer length on this one was a welcome change, although I'm sure it adds to the lead time from one video to the next.
Keep up the great work, Jake!
Thanks for watching and following along! I enjoyed this longer video as well, but definitely takes more time like you said.
I love this video so much.
I came back to watch it because I want to do the rear end overhaul myself exactly like you did it someday.
Love to see the outcome of this man! Congrats and glad Joey could help! Also thanks for having me in the video for 1 second 😂 he does such good work; love the build.
Haha thanks man! Nice meeting you guys. Was a fun weekend.
Nice video! Your mechanic at Rosenbeaur did a great job. Props to that guy for doing an awesome job.
Definitely my favorite build in youtube!🔥
Thanks for tuning in and following along 🙏
I already had the M3 control arms, sub frame bushing and LSD on the wish list. This is next level! Very helpful to see on video and have a list in description to come back to.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
This is seriously satisfying to watch bro great video
Thanks man!
I'm about to have my E39 528i front suspension rebuilt this weekend and I'm hyped but you my man must be on cloud 9 with your beauty of a suspension rebuild, great video👍
You're gonna be happy refreshing the front suspension on your E39, probably gonna feel like a new car! Thanks for following along and watching the video.
Been following this build for a while
Probably the reason why I bought a 135i too
Car is goals man love your videos!
Awesome to hear that! Thanks for following along and watching the build.
Been waiting to see this video for a while. Cool to see my little brother on youtube!
He really knows his stuff!
Wow, such the transformation the suspension has gone through. If you enjoyed the car before, I can only imagine how radically different it'll feel around corners. I love this build, can't wait to see more.
Agreed - it's completely different now. So much better! Thanks for following the build and watching the videos 🙏
Incredible video. Probably my favorite of all of them. So informative and that parts list with links is pure gold. Although after clicking on most of the links, the cost to do all that plus time and tools is no joke. Very similar to the cost of converting to single turbo. BUT boy oh boy are you going to be able to put that power to the ground now. Really excited to see this car back at the drag strip. The install seemed to be top notch, really enjoyed watching your friend work. Jealous of all the wheel/tire choices at your disposal now!
Thanks Chad! It's definitely similar to the undertaking of a proper single turbo install. I think the car definitely needed all of this for the way I've been using it. I'm glad you're still following along, even if I'm not posting on the forums as much.
Favorite 135i build online. Instantly subbed
Thanks and welcome aboard!
getting ready to replace my subframe bought brand new. 2011 328i and awesome job on video. Always like your work..
Great video ...really informative 🤛🏽🔥🔥
Great video, so well put together. Don't even have a 1 series, but still worth watching!
I'm glad you enjoyed! Thanks for following the build and watching the videos. I really appreciate it.
LSD should be the first mod on any non-M car! I don't regret buying my OS Giken Superlock for one second!
Agreed! Finally feels proper.
Very informative cheers dude!
Fantastic effort. I'm blown away by how much work that was to swap all of that out. Makes me wonder if my 2008 335xi will need any of those parts. I just got into autocross and drag racing last summer and will be hitting it up again this year. Man I love my car. It's such an improvement from the 3 Ford Taurus' I used to own.. Just put in a Spec single-mass lightweight flywheel and clutch last month. Next is the intake, intercooler, and spark plugs.
It was so much work! The video didn't do it justice. It took us 3 full days of work. You'll fall in love with your 335xi, especially after the new intake, intercooler and plugs. Enjoy!
Just awesome set up
Wow Jake, that's a big radical upgrade. Dutch regards Nico.
It is a complete transformation. Thanks for watching!
It's cool. I remember this car from all the NFZ events. I think I talked to you couple times . I was running my red r35 GTR in few previous NFZ events and my blue R8 on the one last year
I remember you! We talked for a bit at the end of the last event. Would love to line up and see you at future events.
Dang I wish my rear axles came out that easy!!! Nice work Jake
The air hammer helped! But I've had them in and out a few times already because I've snapped them at the drag strip 😅
As far as you went with this I would have probably sprayed the front and rear subframe powder coated or ceramic. 🤔 still looks crazy lit! Nice job!
N54 Lord I had that exact thought..
MillerrMedia unfortunately we did this entire job front and rear in a single weekend, so we really didn’t have time to send it out to be coated but your right, it would have been ideal.
Agreed! Like Joseph said, we were in a time crunch. I will still try to mask everything off and prep/paint the rear subframe at some point.
@@jake_spence Cool 🤗
Joseph Rosenbauer I do get that but being the car is going to be down for the winter why not wait till you guys had the time to paint everything while it’s apart, more efficient then doing it twice🤷🏻♀️ just my two cents👌
Jake keep up the content I love it. I really hope your channel blows up. It’s the best N54 channel out there and has helped me tons. Thank you !!
This means a lot! I'll keep pumping out content the best I can. Thanks for following along and watching the videos 🙏
Nice I bet you're loving that diff! I installed the same one about a month ago. I kind of regret going with shorter gears on mine but I'm pretty used to it now and it does ok with the stock twins. Totally transforms the car!
I am loving it! Sucks that I haven't really been able to drive it because of the snow. But I'm itching to get it out again this spring. I enjoyed the stock ratio because I do 1/2 mile 170mph+. But shorter gears would be good for shorter tracks.
@@jake_spence heck yeah I bet you're itching to get out and drive it! It totally eliminated that little pause/spin when boost kicks in for me and corner exit speed increased a lot too. I can imagine that in conjunction with solid bushings, holy cow!
i used the cheap ebay heim joint rod end control arms, billet bushings all around with seems legit garage 8.8 kit. oem 328i rear rotors, x1 calipers and a 2mm washer as a shim to center the caliper. all oem and cheap small brake conversion. double adjustable drag shocks and softer coil spring. aside from the 8.8 kit, the rest of the entire rear end was like $700. 3 years later still going strong
Great vid, I was in the middle of changing my rear sub frame and this video drops!
Thanks
Perfect timing! How's your subframe swap going?
Jake Spence
It came out great. added the upgraded bushing, it’s been hard trying to find a video, and yours was very detailed, great job!
Thanks
This is going to be the most built up 135i out there sheesh
It's starting to look that way 😅
Great video and some great parts going on this build. I want to upgrade to the m3 goodies on my 135 so I’m very interested in how much better it rides now.
It's been great so far! I haven't been able to get out on the track since installing these parts, and I feel like that is where they will shine. If you're still on original suspension and bushings, you will definitely notice a different with new upgraded parts.
Thanks for making this video! I've been waiting to see who would make a video showing the rear end poly conversion/upgrade. Please make a follow up video and mention any downsides or increase in nvh! I would really appreciate it as I'm about to order all poly bushings for my rear end and add an m factory LSD
I'm glad you found it helpful! It's been great so far. There isn't much additional NVH, honestly. There is a slight diff whine with the poly bushings, but my car is gutted and with full interior I don't think you'd hear much. No additional vibration. Definitely wouldn't be worried about it being a comfortable street car. You'll love the LSD too!
Can’t wait for it to be on he teach again😍
On the track*
Me too! Waiting for the snow to melt.
Also, I have the bilstein b14 coilovers and they’ve been great so far. With them raised all the way up it lowered my 335is about an inch but if I put them lower it will rub so I kept them all the way up. They feel stiffer than stock yet smoother at the same time.
Good to know! Bilstein has been a great name in this platform for a while. I'll consider them when I continue my search.
I like my voghtland coilovers, and I have 20x10.5 no rubbing , good ride and better handling. You can get them for 750 , I think thier the best option at the price.
This is how I will spend a whole week in march.
Cool video✌🏿
Thanks for watching!
Have you decided on the coil overs yet? Love to hear your thoughts on the b12pro kit (bilstein + eibach) for the 135i daily driver
You will love the MFactory LSD. Be sure to change the break-in lube per recommendations.
Holy Rust Belt, Batman!
I read that there was no break-in lube for this LSD. Have you read differently? And yeah, rust sucks. I will eventually prep and paint the subframe.
great setup damn
Agreed, it's perfect now IMO!
I’m very jealous, I just started building my 07 335i got it FBO so far but suspension will be a future upgrade. Great video
nice job, very smart helper you had there, when you selling me this car ,lol, cant wait to see next one.
Agreed - Joe did a great job. It's always for sale for the right price ;)
@@jake_spenceI live near Niagara falls Canada, when you want to sell let me know, or maybe you want to try something different? I have a 67 pro street nova I might trade you for? peace.
That Inter cooler is huge. Never really noticed how thick it is.
Yup, it's really thick. Does a good job cooling, but very heavy!
That mechanic really knew his shit!!
New to the channel. Great content. Any idea how the 135i with all these goodies (Especially the M3 arms, rear subframe bushings and LSD added) would compare to an e92 M3 specifically in terms of handling? Considering either modifying a 135i or keeping an e92 M3 relatively stock as a next weekend car/canyon carver.
very nice video, i plan on doing the same soon! already have diff in though. and i am dct. can you tell me what top mounts you used for rear shocks? thanks
This is a great video. Would it be possible just to replace the rear hub and bearing and keep everything stock back there so I can run 90 wheels in the back? Also I wish you would've painted your subframe.
Proper Job ! Pretty sure your Guide Rods at rear upside down ! ;)
Love the car! Question Jake I have a 2011 135i, if I were to do the hub conversion to a 3 series one for better wheel Fitment would I need to change any other stock parts? Basically would I be able to just order the the straight part of the list you provided, I know you did to be able to fit 15inch wheels. My issue is I rub a little bit with in the rear using 18x9.5 wheels.
Do you think that the would be a good video to follow along with for my 335?
Great build! I wish BMW did a LSD from the factory.
Great work. How long did this take?
hello congratulations for your excellent work and all the changes you have made. I hope to learn something also because I don't speak your language I write from Italy I own a BMW 135i E82.
I had a question even if I sensed that you said it in the video, but if you could write me in detail the sizes of tires and tires of both axles that you used including offset and if you used spacers, but I don't seem to have seen any . I am very grateful to you if you help me. Thanks so much.
Spherical bushings don't need preload when tightening just as a heads up. It's only the static rubbers that need to be at ride height.
Old Video but it was impressive how you got the sized bolts out. Did you use a chisel ? I spend a eternity to cut them out with a jigsaw.
How hard was it to get their aluminum sub frame bushings in?
C2740 comp drag shocks? What bushings did you use at the top to mix and match? Can’t figure out which ones to use or modify
Can I order these same bushings for my lci e90?
Saw it all, damn it was long but I finally saw everything involved in great detail. I have a E90 335i LCI which might be different in wheel offsets compared to the non LCI if doing all the M3 arms. You probably could of brought another 135i for the price of this rear end overhaul its crazy how much this stuff costs. Get swaybars if you're tracking it the subframe will need to be dropped a bit.
I wish I would've known that about the rear swaybar. Oh well, I still enjoy the results of these modifications. Maybe I'll add a swaybar in the future. Thanks for watching!
Very nice. I would love to do the 15" wheel conversion brakes to my E60 535i wondering if there are enough similarities that these parts would work???
I'm not too familiar with the 535i :/
Links for rear rotors doesn’t work & Need the link to purchase mine, since i hace my 15’s i need to install.
what do you think about the ford 8,8 slg lsd
swap is it better than the M factory I'm about to do the same as your rear end upgrade but I cant decide on the lsd
Nice video bro!! I want to know more about that 15 in brake conversion on the rear. I got a 335i
I believe you should be able to use all of the parts in the description under 15" conversion. You won't need the hubs or hub bearings though.
What’s the lug pattern on the wheels?
that cricket though.
Sick work....how you liking they vibrating tho? What motor mounts you got. I ripped through 2 different ones after i went solid everything. Now i got solid mounts. Also when you run the slicks i recommend going 0 camber in the back or you will eat up slicks and lose traction.
I haven't really noticed any increased vibration. I have new stock motor mounts. I will keep an eye on everything, but I think since I have poly trans and poly diff mounts, it'll be more forgiving than completely solid. We tried getting camber as close to 0* as possible.
Nice job! Did you get around installing the cage sitting in the background?
Yes! Video on that coming soon.
How long time this take you guys?
Can you measure from the ground to the the top of the wheel openings? I am trying to figure out how low those springs would make my car. One more thing can you hear the rear end banging around with all the upgraded bushings.
I could do that, but it won't be the same as yours because I've removed about 400lbs from my car so everything sits higher lol.
Jake Spence close I think my car would be fairly close I have lightened it up a little. I’m just curious what yours is at?
Hey Jake, would this swap work on the 125i. I am looking to buy one and turn it into a track car but am scared of the issues with the n54 I have heard about
Do you still plan on doing front brake ducts? Just noticed when you showed us under the front of the car.
Yes, I still plan on that. Just haven't gotten around to it yet!
Can you post a vid on your PCV oil catch can setup. I recently got an aluminum M18 valve cover, and am not sure how to do PCV. There is no videos currently for N54 PCV setups for non stock valve covers.
I have a stock valve cover. I'm running an upgraded PCV valve and a BMS oil catch can. The outlet is venting to atmosphere thru a hose instead of being plumbed back into the intake.
Jake Spence thanks man!
You need to use rust converter on the rusty suspension parts and paint them to protect them from future corrosion. Bare metal will corrode quickly without protection.
True, I will be doing this in the next couple of months.
damn bro good job looks good not a fan of the 15 inch conversion but good job
It's not for everyone, but I really need the traction! Hoping a fatter tire will help. Thanks for watching!
My bushings are dead on the front control arms on my 135i , idk what to do , just change the bushings or go with a different control arm ? Thx
Amazing work btw , dream 135i build 👌🏻
It'd be the perfect opportunity to upgrade to M3 control arms. That way you don't have to press in and out different bushings to our existing control arms. I have a link to the M3 control arms in the description. Thanks for watching!
Jake Spence thanks a lot for replying !
M3 control arms will fit the car with everything stock ? Thx 👌🏻
Since the car is not stock anymore and you don't care about intrinsic value, you can do what you want. I don't think it will be pleasant on the street but should do well on the track hopefully.
Yeah, this car is meant for the track at this point. I will say it's not that bad on the street, but it's far from comfortable at this point with no interior and race seats.
I came to see how the solid bushings get pushed in. Where is it?
Must've missed filming or including that part. They're pressed in the same way we pressed in/out the other bushings.
Nice! Why are the Eibach springs upside down ?
The text on the springs has always been upside down, it seems that's the way they fit best.
Such a sick and informative video! Pitty about the camera focus.
Awesome video 👍. Is the 135 sub frame pretty much set up the same as a 335i.
hemiowner105 yep! Almost identical.
@@josephrosenbauer6591 awesome thanks!
I see you have a single turbo. Now you are putting in a suspension that can handle the power of a single turbo. Good Deal 😉
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Solid rear sub frame mounts!! Now it makes sense why you keep braking, cracking and snapping shit under your car...!!! Race only change out for next race re straighten frame and replace bent axles...!! This is what race car drivers go through!!! N without sponsorship they would never make a friggen dime !!!! You do this for fun tho.... You must have a crazy ass bank roll...
Umm...good sir how much did all this cost you ? I don't think i reckon I will get this done anytime soon =(
Great build, just noticed youve put the front control arms on the wrong sides, the front control arm should be inverted (bow down)
What about the driveshaft
Hello Jake. do you have M sport suspension originally in your car?, any issue with M3 arms upgrade?
Yes I believe my car had M Sport suspension originally. No issues with the M3 arms upgrade.
So you didn’t tell us what the outcome result of these upgrades?
What exactly has changed in your driving experience after replacing all of the parts and diff?
I'll be uploading a separate video on this topic in a few weeks! It's winter season here and the car is in storage.
Where did you bought the rear diffuser ?
I got it used, but it's a Rieger diffuser.
How long would you say it took to do the rear subframe and all arms etc?
We took a while because of filming, etc. But I'd say it took a solid 24+ hours of work to do all of this work, front and back.
That rims forged is 15x10 et45
Did the solid bushing increase the noise in the car? My car "07 E92 335i is my daily. Would like to improve the handling but keep it quite on the inside.
Nope, no additional NVH or noise from the solid rear subframe bushings. The newer F-series BMWs don't even have bushings, they're directly mounted to the chassis of the car. But if you use solid differential bushings, you will feel some vibration and noise.
@@jake_spence Thanks Jake
Would the 15inch coversion ( calipers and rotors ) work for a 335i ??? Since you basically switched to a 335i hub ? 🤔🤔
its easier to do on a 335. you just need to swap rotors and calipers
Yes I believe so. We're both thinking the same thing, lol. Since I swapped to a 335i hub, the rest of the parts should be the same for you. Just check the links in my description to buy the exact parts.
FYI You installed the rear lower m3 control arm upside down it should curve downward not upward
I made my own aluminum subframe mount "bushings" for my e36. Way better!
There are a lot of holes in those solid mounts at 0:54 .... ?? The rusts really starting to bight .
My subframe is super rusty it looks awful anyone got some tips to sort this out? It’s a 2008 E87 123d in comparison to your subframe yours looks new and mine has been subject to salted UK winter roads for 12 years!
Dang, I thought mine was bad! I would try to use some POR15, and sand away the rust first.
I’m not really sure how to get the inside of it sanded, perhaps I need to get another subframe and get it sandblasted and treated them do a swap
Can you show me background music
Theres still a lil flex in the poly ones, hence the holes
I don't have any holes in the poly ones except for a hole that the bolt goes thru. Are you sure you're not referring to the aluminum subframe bushings?
@@jake_spence diff bushings had holes in the video
How you getting those hookups?
Pitching a proposal to different companies on how we can help each other. Partnerships can work both ways, but you have to put yourself out there with proof you can bring them business.
Jake Spence fair enough makes sense,
Your control arms are upside down. The ball joint end should be at the knuckle and the arms should be curving downwards like a U.
you should race with 1320 lol i wanna see you smoke them muscle cars
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i know Joey
Lucky, he's a cool dude!
@@jake_spence hes my brother