Shane played good as usual. I wonder if he has considered a real snooker cue? It could help to refine his snooker game. If i was him i would look into it. I think he has the talent to beat anyone.
I do not quite understand the winning conditions. It says “Best of 37 racks”, which would seem to be a race to 19. But then there is a time limit restriction of 140 minutes, and a (25) in the middle of the score area. What are they actually playing to? Is it a race, or a time limit, or some combination?
Nope your wrong. All the matches for some reason have grand final in them. I don't think Shane has the calibre to compete with the top Chinese 8 ball players.
Something fishy going on, Looks like Shane play this game to lose. Even Amateurs don't miss the shots which he missed. At 2:17:55 he didn't effort to make the last ball.
Look at 2nd to last match, he runs table effortly in like 30 seconds which is typical of shane cause he plays 9 all the time which has much more difficult setups and shots usually. Everything about this looks like throwing a match, not near misses and bricks. He is sponsored by cuetech, I believe a chinese organization, maybe they told him to lose? Don't get me wrong Shi Hanquing is good, but you don't win 2 world 9 ball masters for nothing, why isn't Shi world champion of any of these events, or snooker?
I mean I'm pretty sure, in the final match, he plays with no draw, no forward top spin, no english, just dead center shots (kind of like zombie) not sure if he is just frustrated with narrow pockets and trying to just be really accurate, or joking?
Also way he lose to europe in masconi cup, woodward and him, which don't get me wrong, but are both way better than shaw and filler?? Seems like euro, china, funny business, just look at our country, it's probably owned by eruope/china, this kind of like just a show for the world rulers
That or just simple off day, on narrow pocketed table no less, with wool snooker table felt of all things, against a person who regularly plays on the thing, and here we are going off the deep end, but skeptical till the end i sit...
It’s a Chinese pool table. Same size balls as American pool and same size tables. Just tighter pockets which is why Americans won’t do any good at the game.
Did anyone notice that Shi Hanqing was using a snooker cue? Not only that but it was a standard snooker cue with a narrow tip. Further proof that snooker players are supreme. Snooker players can play American style pool but American style pool players can't play snooker. Shi Hanqing was humble too. Very nice to see.
You should always have the work the angle out yourself, I think its stupid for pool tables to have the diamond markers, especially for professional players
Yeah, it's literally just a 9ft snooker table. Funny, cause my mate and I used to play with American pool balls on a snooker table for fun like 10 years ago and we'd always get strange looks or even people thinking they're funny making the same jokes over and over again like "I think they've given you fellas the wrong balls!", but I played the same with a friend not long ago and someone was watching and said "they should get a proper Chinese 8 ball table in here, it's gonna become a really popular game in the next 10 years I reckon!". Couldn't agree more.
IFranchisedI a little difference with tip . Actually a lot chinese 8ball pros use snooker cue, with 10mm or more size tip. But Gereath Potts’cue is customized, specializing in Chinese 8 ball
seems like there is a difference in pattern play where you try to avoid long and thin cuts. hanqing is bumping balls much more easily and is able to incorporate that in some racks.. shane's speed and anxiety getting to him i think.
on a chinese table it's extremely hard to put balls into the corner pockets when the balls are close to the rails. you must shoot slow and have pin point aim. on the contrary, as long as you shoot slow, balls seem to drop into the sides from crazy angles. i've lived in china 6 years and play everyday
Chinese tables have never been Shane's talent. American pool players rely too much on cheating pockets that's it's been ingrained in teachings. This isn't the first time Shane's lost at Chinese pool. These tables won't let you cheat the corner pockets like American tables. Although, it's interesting that Hanqing has a regular break cue, but uses a snooker cue for play. It's not common unless you played as a snooker player. Good upload for sure though!
chinese tables are awful. i've lived in china 6 years. you must play slow and conservative. it makes for a very boring game and makes it impossible for beginners to start because they have such a hard time getting balls in holes. i take 4 vacations a year to other parts of asia with normal tables and I'm always surprised how much better the chinese table has made me and i'm also surprised by how terrible i play on the chinese tables for a few weeks after i get back. chinese tables are only for people who love pool (you need patience) and are pretty good (because you'll never learn to position the ball if you can't make shots). making 2-4 balls just isn't fun. running racks is fun and that just doesn't happen on the chinese table
I can't remember when the last Chinese Snooker player won in the USA?!?!?!? I guess it's all in where you are geographicaly. Shane looked disinterested from the start. He probably threw the game so the Chinese would buy from his sponsors. It's a way of doing business over there "losing face" is the phrase all the business people know when doing business there, don't cause them to loose face.
Liberty Warrior: Chinese snooker players would only compete in snooker matches in China or in the UK. There is no point for them to compete in American pool.
This is where American pool players get unstuck. They don’t have the technicality to excel at this. Whereas it’s always the Brits that do well because they have a solid snooker foundation. Melling getting to final etc.
Even if they didn't play snooker, the pockets on English pool tables are even tighter than snooker tables, with 3" pockets and 2" balls as standard. With guys like Potts, Melling and Hill all coming from that background, and being well experienced in the game of 8 ball, no surprise to see them doing so well at this game tbf. For someone like Shane to look like a clown playing this game is quite astounding, just shows how lax the players of the American game can be with their fundamentals because of how loose the pockets play in their own game.
Some of the best shots of the match: 2:02 Great positional play. 9:10 Excellent technique. 16:36 Smooth transition. 29:13 Perfect position again. 34:26 What can I say? 48:11 More positional play here. =)
Regarding one comment that Chinese 8 ball players will beat american 8 ball players anytime. There's no such thing as 8 ball american players. American pool players played different pool disciplines including 8, 9, and 10 ball. Not to forget, there are 1-pocket, bank pool and rotation. Also, they played in a different table, so if a chinese pool player will play american type pool table, they will see the difference. Same thing applies with filipino pool players here too in our country, they are not focusing on one game, instead at their beginning stage of playing pool, you need to master the game of 15 ball rotation, which you need to pot the ball in chronological manner in order to reach the score of 61 and above. After that, 8 ball, 9 ball, and 10 ball are easy. Stop denoting the superiority of the sport because of the pocket size, much fitting and respectable way to asses this is to appreciate players who work their ass off just to excel on this game regardless of the aspect of pocket size. There are many aspect beyond potting the ball, of course the goal is to pocket the ball hence the umbrella term of pool is pocket billiards, but let's not forget the other side of pool that makes it very beautiful: bank shots, kicking, angles, spin control, the physics, the psychological aspect, the safety, patterns, and many more. I hope @Thomas Heal will see this comment and understand my point. By a Filipino who is passionate and love this game.
Hanqing was very defensive towards the end, refused the run out until it was so easy; even Stevie Wonder could get out. Shane just never got the speed of the table down; and couldn't adjust for the spin on the ball.
There's no such thing as 8 ball american players. American pool players played different pool disciplines including 8, 9, and 10 ball. Not to forget, there are 1-pocket, bank pool and rotation. Same thing applies with filipino pool players here too in our country, they are not focusing on one game, instead at their beginning stage of playing pool, you need to master how the game of 15 ball rotation, which you need to pot the ball in chronological manner in order to reach the score of 61 and above. After that, 8 ball, 9 ball, and 10 ball are easy. Stop denoting the superiority of the sport because of the pocket size, much fitting and respectable way to asses this is to appreciate players who work their ass off just to excel on this game regardless of the aspect of pocket size. There are many aspect beyond potting the ball, of course the goal is to pocket the ball hence the umbrella term of pool is pocket billiards, but let's not forget the other side of pool that makes it very beautiful: bank shots, kicking, angles, spin control, the physics, the psychological aspect, the safety, patterns, and many more. I hope @Thomas Heal will see this comment and understand my point. By a Filipino who is passionate and love this game.
This is not the size of international pool 8 ball board. Call any snooker master. Any good snooker master can win the match with this chinese guy. And Shane is the best player for pool. This fake board can’t show his speciality.
Hanqing was very defensive towards the end, refused the run out until it was so easy; even Stevie Wonder could get out. Shane just never got the speed of the table down; and couldn't adjust for the spin on the ball.
2:03, shot of the match.
8=====================D
Well played sir
Zico Rodrigues got me, thanks 😂😂😂👍
Awesome but I prefer 10:31
Hehehehe
Thank you for the upload. Great game from both of them.
Volume warning for the ads. ffs
Boening's really showed great creativity for his shots. Good game from both!
9:15 they synchronized that well.
Shane played good as usual. I wonder if he has considered a real snooker cue? It could help to refine his snooker game. If i was him i would look into it. I think he has the talent to beat anyone.
You have to respect Shane came straight from his shift at the airport. Very working class USA. In truth, he doesn't care. I like that.
Interesting upload. Thanks.
good of how many is the prize of the first place and if additional add other prizes?
Wilmer Barreto probably around $150k.
开球以后如果有球压在开球纸上，是怎么把开球纸拿出来的？每次这个镜头都会被裁判本人挡住，从来没看到过怎么弄
抹些油到开球纸上，然后用力抽出来
Stephen Hendry speaking Chinese! That's what I'm talking about!
Before the match started, while she was racking, I knew right then that this would be worth watching! 😁
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Ok, so, what is that rack thing there using please,,,,
The rack they are using is called the Magic Rack.
Thomas Heal Thank you.
I do not quite understand the winning conditions. It says “Best of 37 racks”, which would seem to be a race to 19. But then there is a time limit restriction of 140 minutes, and a (25) in the middle of the score area. What are they actually playing to? Is it a race, or a time limit, or some combination?
This match was best of 25 frames or who ever wins the most frames in 140 minutes.
To all the haters, you realize shane is in the GRAND FINALS of a game he plays once a year, in a discipline he doesn't play.
Nope your wrong. All the matches for some reason have grand final in them. I don't think Shane has the calibre to compete with the top Chinese 8 ball players.
the name of the event is 'Chinese 8 ball Masters Grand Final'. its partly an invitational event
I cant hate. Even snooker players get beat at chinese 8 ball.
sololegit you dopey fool, this is first round
All these haters couldn't even run out a rack of 8 ball on a bar box in their entire lives.
Does anyone know what the prize money for this was?
$100k
@@Warren_Flatt Thanks. Though it's not a lot it's better than the pittance in U.S. 9 & 10 ball tournaments.
@@davidhunternyc1 very true. although I'm not a fan of anything from China (even though I'm Chinese-Canadian), at least it pays pretty decent.
Chinese table is hybrid. I prefer eight ball english table. I play with a snooker cue 8mm. Pocket of American table is very easy to play.
Something fishy going on, Looks like Shane play this game to lose. Even Amateurs don't miss the shots which he missed. At 2:17:55 he didn't effort to make the last ball.
Look at 2nd to last match, he runs table effortly in like 30 seconds which is typical of shane cause he plays 9 all the time which has much more difficult setups and shots usually. Everything about this looks like throwing a match, not near misses and bricks. He is sponsored by cuetech, I believe a chinese organization, maybe they told him to lose? Don't get me wrong Shi Hanquing is good, but you don't win 2 world 9 ball masters for nothing, why isn't Shi world champion of any of these events, or snooker?
I mean I'm pretty sure, in the final match, he plays with no draw, no forward top spin, no english, just dead center shots (kind of like zombie) not sure if he is just frustrated with narrow pockets and trying to just be really accurate, or joking?
Also way he lose to europe in masconi cup, woodward and him, which don't get me wrong, but are both way better than shaw and filler?? Seems like euro, china, funny business, just look at our country, it's probably owned by eruope/china, this kind of like just a show for the world rulers
That or just simple off day, on narrow pocketed table no less, with wool snooker table felt of all things, against a person who regularly plays on the thing, and here we are going off the deep end, but skeptical till the end i sit...
You dont understand how tight these pockets are. They rarely play banks on these tables.
What were the commentators saying?
Something about how all white people look alike.
yo mama
why are they playing in a snooker table?
It’s a Chinese pool table. Same size balls as American pool and same size tables. Just tighter pockets which is why Americans won’t do any good at the game.
Did anyone notice that Shi Hanqing was using a snooker cue? Not only that but it was a standard snooker cue with a narrow tip. Further proof that snooker players are supreme. Snooker players can play American style pool but American style pool players can't play snooker. Shi Hanqing was humble too. Very nice to see.
What's the connection or relation between the player's preferred cue and the player's skill of playing the game? It's rather ignorant isn't?
Why is Shane breaking game 2 if Hanqing won the first game? Doesn't winner break?
rotating break i think?
No. Professional 8 ball games alternate the break. The first person to break is decided by the lag.
So chinese 8 ball is a 9 or 8 foot table with pool balls, but rounded snook pockets?
can anyone explain the triangle to me, seems counter intuitive ?
Big Al magic rack it's designed to give the same rack each time and she does it well.
2:21:15 Good handshaking he is a good player not like Earl Strickland when he is losing :D
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no diamond markers? Looks like a hard table to play.
You should always have the work the angle out yourself, I think its stupid for pool tables to have the diamond markers, especially for professional players
I agree, its a good tool when doing over one bank.
Consider it a mini snooker table
Yeah, it's literally just a 9ft snooker table. Funny, cause my mate and I used to play with American pool balls on a snooker table for fun like 10 years ago and we'd always get strange looks or even people thinking they're funny making the same jokes over and over again like "I think they've given you fellas the wrong balls!", but I played the same with a friend not long ago and someone was watching and said "they should get a proper Chinese 8 ball table in here, it's gonna become a really popular game in the next 10 years I reckon!". Couldn't agree more.
I'm deprived, we only have regular pocket tables around me.
Hanqings cue doesn't look like your average snooker cue. Does anyone know what cue he's playing with? I'm assuming it's custom made, just curious
IFranchisedI a little difference with tip . Actually a lot chinese 8ball pros use snooker cue, with 10mm or more size tip. But Gereath Potts’cue is customized, specializing in Chinese 8 ball
i believe he uses an 野豹神兵. not too sure which model he uses specifically.
come on Ronnie 😂😂😂 Oops thought it was Snooker.
seems like there is a difference in pattern play where you try to avoid long and thin cuts. hanqing is bumping balls much more easily and is able to incorporate that in some racks.. shane's speed and anxiety getting to him i think.
on a chinese table it's extremely hard to put balls into the corner pockets when the balls are close to the rails. you must shoot slow and have pin point aim. on the contrary, as long as you shoot slow, balls seem to drop into the sides from crazy angles. i've lived in china 6 years and play everyday
Chinese tables have never been Shane's talent. American pool players rely too much on cheating pockets that's it's been ingrained in teachings. This isn't the first time Shane's lost at Chinese pool. These tables won't let you cheat the corner pockets like American tables. Although, it's interesting that Hanqing has a regular break cue, but uses a snooker cue for play. It's not common unless you played as a snooker player. Good upload for sure though!
It's very common, as an American who lives in the North East of China, I have noticed most Chinese players prefer to play with a snooker cue.
chinese tables are awful. i've lived in china 6 years. you must play slow and conservative. it makes for a very boring game and makes it impossible for beginners to start because they have such a hard time getting balls in holes. i take 4 vacations a year to other parts of asia with normal tables and I'm always surprised how much better the chinese table has made me and i'm also surprised by how terrible i play on the chinese tables for a few weeks after i get back. chinese tables are only for people who love pool (you need patience) and are pretty good (because you'll never learn to position the ball if you can't make shots). making 2-4 balls just isn't fun. running racks is fun and that just doesn't happen on the chinese table
I can't remember when the last Chinese Snooker player won in the USA?!?!?!? I guess it's all in where you are geographicaly. Shane looked disinterested from the start. He probably threw the game so the Chinese would buy from his sponsors. It's a way of doing business over there "losing face" is the phrase all the business people know when doing business there, don't cause them to loose face.
Exactly
Liberty Warrior: Chinese snooker players would only compete in snooker matches in China or in the UK. There is no point for them to compete in American pool.
Those pockets are insanely tight
They sure are.
This is where American pool players get unstuck. They don’t have the technicality to excel at this. Whereas it’s always the Brits that do well because they have a solid snooker foundation. Melling getting to final etc.
Even if they didn't play snooker, the pockets on English pool tables are even tighter than snooker tables, with 3" pockets and 2" balls as standard. With guys like Potts, Melling and Hill all coming from that background, and being well experienced in the game of 8 ball, no surprise to see them doing so well at this game tbf. For someone like Shane to look like a clown playing this game is quite astounding, just shows how lax the players of the American game can be with their fundamentals because of how loose the pockets play in their own game.
SHE THICCCCCCCCCCCCCCC
Some of the best shots of the match:
2:02 Great positional play.
9:10 Excellent technique.
16:36 Smooth transition.
29:13 Perfect position again.
34:26 What can I say?
48:11 More positional play here.
=)
中式黑8对老外来说够新鲜的。
chinese 8 ball favors snooker players and the locals that grew up on the nasty rounded pockets. be lotsa fun
If they got rid of the magic rack this game would be far more interesting. Wingball on break is a gimme.
Regarding one comment that Chinese 8 ball players will beat american 8 ball players anytime. There's no such thing as 8 ball american players. American pool players played different pool disciplines including 8, 9, and 10 ball. Not to forget, there are 1-pocket, bank pool and rotation. Also, they played in a different table, so if a chinese pool player will play american type pool table, they will see the difference. Same thing applies with filipino pool players here too in our country, they are not focusing on one game, instead at their beginning stage of playing pool, you need to master the game of 15 ball rotation, which you need to pot the ball in chronological manner in order to reach the score of 61 and above. After that, 8 ball, 9 ball, and 10 ball are easy. Stop denoting the superiority of the sport because of the pocket size, much fitting and respectable way to asses this is to appreciate players who work their ass off just to excel on this game regardless of the aspect of pocket size. There are many aspect beyond potting the ball, of course the goal is to pocket the ball hence the umbrella term of pool is pocket billiards, but let's not forget the other side of pool that makes it very beautiful: bank shots, kicking, angles, spin control, the physics, the psychological aspect, the safety, patterns, and many more. I hope @Thomas Heal will see this comment and understand my point.
By a Filipino who is passionate and love this game.
cute referee tho :D
shane's outfit tho.... hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
i think he purchased that at "parking valet" depot.
gee money 😂😂😂
When you can shoot like that, you can wear whatever you like.
aaaaand we get John Leyman racking balls instead.....
Seems like shanes been fishing a little too much he's missed a lot of easy shots (for him).
Short sleeved shirts with waist coats look so dorky! Not a good look, Shane...
Yeah...
God I wish we could get some english commentating
It's funny seeing Shane in a vest lol
Never seen Shane play so badly. Terrible breaks and missing important shots
Hanqing was very defensive towards the end, refused the run out until it was so easy; even Stevie Wonder could get out. Shane just never got the speed of the table down; and couldn't adjust for the spin on the ball.
It dificultys stun...
Baper!
Why Shane's face always looks angry and sad
One bloody jinxed table, real bad pockets for a World Master's Final. SVB at his poorest form indeed. Well played Shi.. Hehe
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Chinese table...
Paid to lose, very corrupt game
台球厅的中式8球高手，就可以秒杀美式8球的运动员，美式8球基本不需要高准度，看他们打球觉得很好笑，洞奇大无比
There's no such thing as 8 ball american players. American pool players played different pool disciplines including 8, 9, and 10 ball. Not to forget, there are 1-pocket, bank pool and rotation. Same thing applies with filipino pool players here too in our country, they are not focusing on one game, instead at their beginning stage of playing pool, you need to master how the game of 15 ball rotation, which you need to pot the ball in chronological manner in order to reach the score of 61 and above. After that, 8 ball, 9 ball, and 10 ball are easy. Stop denoting the superiority of the sport because of the pocket size, much fitting and respectable way to asses this is to appreciate players who work their ass off just to excel on this game regardless of the aspect of pocket size. There are many aspect beyond potting the ball, of course the goal is to pocket the ball hence the umbrella term of pool is pocket billiards, but let's not forget the other side of pool that makes it very beautiful: bank shots, kicking, angles, spin control, the physics, the psychological aspect, the safety, patterns, and many more. I hope @Thomas Heal will see this comment and understand my point.
By a Filipino who is passionate and love this game.
This is not the size of international pool 8 ball board. Call any snooker master. Any good snooker master can win the match with this chinese guy. And Shane is the best player for pool. This fake board can’t show his speciality.
FALSE, PURE IGNORANCE.
Hanqing was very defensive towards the end, refused the run out until it was so easy; even Stevie Wonder could get out. Shane just never got the speed of the table down; and couldn't adjust for the spin on the ball.