At 17:42, it appeared to me that Shane hit the rail first on his safety shot, so no ball hit a rail after the cue ball hit the 6 ball. It was very close, but listening to the sound of the cue ball hitting the 6 helps.
haha all the bitching in the comments about the table... It is a different game people get it through your thick skulls! its like you are bitching about cricket not being the same a baseball... the smaller snooker style pockets with the larger balls of pool (snooker balls=52.5mm pool balls=57mm) It is a hybrid and is meant to be more difficult to make shots. They probably paid Shane a lot of money just to show up there and play I doubt he went there in hopes of winning it all in a game he does not play. Good cue sports players have respect for all the other games even if they don't play them, each has a different skill and mindset one needs to understand in order to play well.
D-railed I have news for u buddy would like to play on a normal American pool table with 5 inch pockets or a this table that has 3 and a half inch pockets or a Russian table that's not even 3 inches
Robert Coups - Shane did not shine this time. It would be better for him to buy chinese pool table for practice. Maybe he would win some more racks :-)
This should be the standard table for all 8 ball games, not only is it fun to watch them miss easy shots but it also makes the game more strategic. Otherwise it just seems too easy and almost boring to watch them clear table after table in one go in regular 8 ball.
Could be the spin he puts on?Also the star tables are a different height than American tables, also the rails are metal not wood, also the cloth is different.
The game on these tables is so far harder than a classic pool table. He needs practice a lot because chinese players are nice here. Maybe next year he will win cause he is a great player! :)
Anyone know what cue Shane is using? I know he used to use a Cuetec a few years ago, I would assume it's a Cuetec (since he's sponsored), but it has an interesting wrap and he usually plays with the extension on the back.
Andres64B who are we to question. but ridiculous. banks a rail shot, that could have easily been taken care of later in the rack. . . thinking the exact same thing. just wasn't his day.
rail shots are tough on snooker pockets. you'll see a lot of players bump them out. so here shane believes he won't be able to knock it out. if his banks were on point, it would have been a decent percentage shot, it's just that he missed. hard enough making the 4, he's not going to try to go 4 to 5 like in a pool table. he will most certainly get straighter on the 4 compared to normal pool patterns, and it's possible he was going for the 4 after making the bank on the 5.
You are right Josh, I replayed that shot a couple of times and it was clear the cue ball hit the rail first and neither ball made a rail after the hit. Clrarly a foul.
Shane is missing alot of the shots that he is because he is used to "cheating the pocket" which is done with the majority of shots by the pros. Cheating the pocket allows you to change the angle of cue ball deflection while still hitting center ball, you do this by slicing the pockets in three sections, center,left, and right, now you have more cue ball control without risking the shot due to putting side spin to the cue trying to manipulate for position. These pockets don't have as much room for that, I'm sure with 100 hours on this setup, Shane could do beautiful things. I also feel though that the extra tight pockets make for less shots that are just super dope based on the position they got from it, like effren going 4 rails through other balls, just to get stupid sick position would never happen on this table, on a shot more than an end rails distance between cue and object ball, much less if the object ball isn't close to a pocket. the pros make it look easy by hitting center ball (which is any cue tip top, middle, or bottom of the cue ball) as often as possible and prefer to resort to side spin for the purpose of getting back in line for their run out if they happen to miss calculate a position.
John Smith u truly DNT know what ur on about, the table is 12,6 for a start u pleb, trying to make it even when the balls are smaller u pleb, some shots require u to use extensions on the cue and rest, what an ignorant comment
For this match. Shane got a terrible tire flight and he didn't have time to practice. The little time he got before the match. He spend it resting. Cause he couldn't be up after such a long flight.. you can tell by looking at he's face.. you probably asking yourself. It this Shane.... how i know this.. he mentioned on a interview
Tough game, regardless of the gap in scores. They both played great and I understand how Shane feels so he was his self that match, just had an equally skilled opponent which made the game more difficult.
Hard to watch! I can't imagine why SVB would have this difficult of a time...could just be a bad day, but that table does look odd. Also wondering if they banned playing with extensions except for difficult shots because I haven't seen Shane play with out it in a long time. All just speculation and excuses in the end though.
Exactly. The tables are actually 5' x 9'. The extra 0.5' changes all of the angles SVB and your average pool player would be accustomed to, and with the tighter snooker-style pockets it makes the table play much tougher than a 4.5' x 9' diamond or similar.
those pockets change everything you have to be used to it balls attached to the cushions are difficult to pocket into the corners you have to set up for straight shots
Marlon pockets are smaller. and i believe ball size is different also. its basically a hybrid between the snooker tables and 8 ball pool balls in an effort to create a harder version of 8 ball. its pretty tough. i play on one of these every week and its not perfectly level. let me tell u i run out 6 balls within the rack and im pretty happy with that level of play. seeing these guys play on a better table and do worse gives me hope lol
Mike A Considering the fact that Shane plays most of his time on American pool tables, it's not a surprise that he misses a lot on this table. It's nothing about skill but just different muscle memory.
the table is standard size for American 8 ball (9'x4.5') but it has regulation snooker pockets. The pockets have a 3.5" opening (American tables are 4.5") with rounded knuckles that don't allow a rattled ball to drop. Also, they use much faster cloth and a heated table to make it roll faster. It is an insanely difficult table to play on.
So I have to state my opinion since everyone else does. I am an avid player of american pool simple because I live in america and other options of cue sports are not readily available. I enjoy watching many different cue sports (including novuss) and I'm not against anything new. I even liked when new games were introduced for american pool even though I agree old men stuck in their ways and shady gambling in a bar with drunks, and tournaments with no professionalism in their attire or attitude, have slowly killed the desire for most to take up the game as well as destroy any chances of making new games for it. With that said I can say for this game I just do not like how the pockets don't allow for any balls down the rail. I understand that amercian pool tables are more receptive accepting those shots and I love watching snooker because for a game where there is 15 red balls to choose from you can get away with balls on the rail more often and still win the rack but in pool sports placed on this table if even on ball is on the rail you can't run the rack or even have a chance to make the shot and gain position. Even Yu Ting in the beginning of the match couldn't finish the 8 ball due to this reason. I don't prefer watching something where you are literally punished for the roll of the table to that degree. otherwise I believe the game is extremely challenging and demands more focus, accuracy, and shot control. Good match and I hope to see Shane win next year!!! He travels the world to be better at all cue sports not just the best pool player.
i live in china and honestly most of the pool halls out here have this terrible snooker tables. The pockets are very tight and a game takes forever since its really hard to pot a ball
Competidor americano, pelo o que pude notar, não respeita os costumes nem cultura de países diferentes do dele. Digo isso por que a cada formalismo ele dava um sorriso de deboche.
Why is everyone complaining about the table? if the table is bigger with pockets that force you to shoot straight and not depend on lucky ball drops, then that just means you gotta up your game as a player or simply not play such games at all. This is a different game and its not like shane never played it in his life. He is simply not as good at it as in playing american 8 ball, stop being so butthurt.
not only that by what i have read these are a weird size also like 5' by 9' instead of the normal 4.5' by 9' which throws off angles dependent on diamonds
Shane shot his 7 ball down the rail at warp speed while his 8 ball next shot was a hanger. Rail shots with snooker pockets need to be slower. Was he paid to throw the match? Made no sense at all.
Oh it was the 7 .......i thought 5 or 3 hahahahaha and your right i commented on that too not sure if he was throwing the game . But at the least he was tight and frustrated which is when i think most players tend to go for too much maybe trying to loosen up .
Shane is picking terrible patterns for this style of table and playing too many safeties. Watch - he tries to bank a ball when he’s down 7-3 but he has a few other options. His opponent isn’t Bette than him he’s just playing smarter. He runs the easiest shots as far as he can then plays safe. Shane can’t run the rest of the rack so his opponent gets up and runs 3 balls. When his opponent misses he misses gently. The next time he gets up his balls are close to the pockets. Shane misses and he fires the ball at the pocket so the ball isn’t close when/if he gets back to the table. Make no mistake, his opponent is a great player, but he doesn’t seem to be better than Shane.
I grew up playing on these tables and i know american made pool table players are useless and less accurate on these table, i think ill be able to defeat them all
These are some of the ways that the game is rigged.IMHO: The Star tables are a disgrace. Shame is upon those who conceived & created them, shame is upon anyone that promotes them for international pool. Those from the west that play on them are fools. Also Cyclops balls should be avoided. I played a lot of pool 55 years ago and my impression is that the game "has gone to the dogs." TV changed the game radically what was once "dirty pool" is now the norm.Pool as it is played now-a-days is played for the benefit of the spectators and woe are those like myself who played pool before TV all but ruined pool the game which is, by far, the most fascinatingly difficult of all games. Putting it plain and simple -- pool is hitting balls into pockets it is not hide and seek (hooks.) it is not croquet (blocking pockets) it is not marbles (ball in hand anywhere.) It is not failing to hit a rail on a kick shot, it is not 3 fouls loses.The game has been over simplified for dolts -- making ten balls without missing a shot and calling that a complete game seems silly when real pool players are making 400 balls and more without missing a shot. R.I.P American pool games.
ok but why hate on the tables and the balls, if its not the same game? might as well bring snooker into this. its not chinese 8-balls fault american pool is dying, its all shady events/hosts that really killed the game.
Clark Jones Then don't write down those arrogant words about the "American pool" in your minds. People have to learn to appreciate the variety of billiards games.
Nice camera angle...best shot of the match. 11:36 & 12:28...commentator reaction at 11:45
Wow massive crowd there -_-
Absolutely shocking.
I've never seen Shane shoot so badly in my life.
At 17:42, it appeared to me that Shane hit the rail first on his safety shot, so no ball hit a rail after the cue ball hit the 6 ball. It was very close, but listening to the sound of the cue ball hitting the 6 helps.
Terriblement révélateur sur la qualité des champions américains....
Shane is not himself in this match..
Just saying Shane owns one of these tables. He has had plenty of time to adjust. Just a tough game
haha all the bitching in the comments about the table... It is a different game people get it through your thick skulls!
its like you are bitching about cricket not being the same a baseball...
the smaller snooker style pockets with the larger balls of pool (snooker balls=52.5mm pool balls=57mm)
It is a hybrid and is meant to be more difficult to make shots. They probably paid Shane a lot of money just to show up there and play I doubt he went there in hopes of winning it all in a game he does not play. Good cue sports players have respect for all the other games even if they don't play them, each has a different skill and mindset one needs to understand in order to play well.
Yes I agree this is a different game all my comments lead to what you are saying.
So can we not have a different name for it?
Clark Jones it does have a different name "chinese 8ball"...
D-railed I have news for u buddy would like to play on a normal American pool table with 5 inch pockets or a this table that has 3 and a half inch pockets or a Russian table that's not even 3 inches
rosepetal well that's a pussie table that's American 8ball being played on a pussie table
Snooker World ok we get it you like snooker.
LMAO There are like 5 people in the arena! hahaha
I counted 17 and that's ridiculous - to see Shane, one of the best in the world right now !
Pool isn't as popular as it was in the 80's and 90's.
It's more than 5 people popular LOL!
Timothy Duzenski I'll be jumping in joy to be there next to SVB
Robert Coups - Shane did not shine this time. It would be better for him to buy chinese pool table for practice.
Maybe he would win some more racks :-)
This should be the standard table for all 8 ball games, not only is it fun to watch them miss easy shots but it also makes the game more strategic. Otherwise it just seems too easy and almost boring to watch them clear table after table in one go in regular 8 ball.
Is that table not level? watch the lag closely it looks like shanes ball tracks right.
Could be the spin he puts on?Also the star tables are a different height than American tables, also the rails are metal not wood, also the cloth is different.
The game on these tables is so far harder than a classic pool table. He needs practice a lot because chinese players are nice here. Maybe next year he will win cause he is a great player! :)
LAURA SI PIENSO LO MISMO AMOR
Gata
Anyone know what cue Shane is using?
I know he used to use a Cuetec a few years ago, I would assume it's a Cuetec (since he's sponsored), but it has an interesting wrap and he usually plays with the extension on the back.
Before (like this match): Cuetec with r360 shaft (wood)
Now: Cuetec with Cynergy shaft (carbon)
1:15:00 why did he go for the 5, and not 2, 4 and then 5?
I'm wondering the same thing
Andres64B who are we to question. but ridiculous. banks a rail shot, that could have easily been taken care of later in the rack. . . thinking the exact same thing. just wasn't his day.
rail shots are tough on snooker pockets. you'll see a lot of players bump them out. so here shane believes he won't be able to knock it out. if his banks were on point, it would have been a decent percentage shot, it's just that he missed.
hard enough making the 4, he's not going to try to go 4 to 5 like in a pool table. he will most certainly get straighter on the 4 compared to normal pool patterns, and it's possible he was going for the 4 after making the bank on the 5.
Why was the shot at 17:45 not a foul?
I think he did hit the ball before the cushion but it was close.
He hit his own ball first (so not a foul) but lost his turn as his ball did not follow the opponents ball in.
hes talking about nothing hitting a rail after the object ball was hit. unless they are playing some weird chinese rules, this is a foul.
You are right Josh, I replayed that shot a couple of times and it was clear the cue ball hit the rail first and neither ball made a rail after the hit. Clrarly a foul.
do it in slow motion ( speed 0.25) he hit the 6ball first then the cushion
Would be better in English
It would be. Hopefully in the future they stream in English.
Haha! Nice bow tie Shane :D
no sound
so this is the finals?
it's the Grand Final, which is the final tournament, obviously this one of the first stage of the tournament.
Shane's first shot of the game...That's when he realized " No manhole size pockets" LOL...
Shane is missing alot of the shots that he is because he is used to "cheating the pocket" which is done with the majority of shots by the pros. Cheating the pocket allows you to change the angle of cue ball deflection while still hitting center ball, you do this by slicing the pockets in three sections, center,left, and right, now you have more cue ball control without risking the shot due to putting side spin to the cue trying to manipulate for position. These pockets don't have as much room for that, I'm sure with 100 hours on this setup, Shane could do beautiful things. I also feel though that the extra tight pockets make for less shots that are just super dope based on the position they got from it, like effren going 4 rails through other balls, just to get stupid sick position would never happen on this table, on a shot more than an end rails distance between cue and object ball, much less if the object ball isn't close to a pocket. the pros make it look easy by hitting center ball (which is any cue tip top, middle, or bottom of the cue ball) as often as possible and prefer to resort to side spin for the purpose of getting back in line for their run out if they happen to miss calculate a position.
that is why i admire snooker players , they learn how to really aim and no cheating the pockets
Jeremiah Shields lol he's missing because the pockets are to small for American pool players
sylvain bonspille snooker players are in they own class lol the best of the best class
Snooker balls are smaller than pool balls, so it's the same.
John Smith u truly DNT know what ur on about, the table is 12,6 for a start u pleb, trying to make it even when the balls are smaller u pleb, some shots require u to use extensions on the cue and rest, what an ignorant comment
1:33:50 ouch ..
Packed to capacity. No wonder I couldn't get tickets.
LMAO
Grand final? Kidding right?
The tournament is the grand final. This is because there was 5 qualifying events before this which were played in 2016.
Didnt know that. Thank you. And by the way i couldnt help but noticing that Shane is having some problems with the table or what?
For this match. Shane got a terrible tire flight and he didn't have time to practice. The little time he got before the match. He spend it resting. Cause he couldn't be up after such a long flight.. you can tell by looking at he's face.. you probably asking yourself. It this Shane.... how i know this.. he mentioned on a interview
Tough game, regardless of the gap in scores. They both played great and I understand how Shane feels so he was his self that match, just had an equally skilled opponent which made the game more difficult.
Pppppppppppppp
Pppppppppp
Why Shane Van boening?
Why not?
The crowd was really explosive ! :))
DerKusselKopp hahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahaha
34 people it looked like a sell out
its kind of scary there wasnt a crowd; morevoer, shane is way better than this i feel he threw the match for his safety.
table dimensions?
9 X 5
+Thomas Heal
thank you ,it looks so wide compare to 9 footers i had played on ,maybe its just the way its made
Someone forgot to unlock the doors to the place
what's happening with shane? that shot on 1:33:49
SVB geeking out the tux! Lol usually wears jeans and a tee!
Hard to watch! I can't imagine why SVB would have this difficult of a time...could just be a bad day, but that table does look odd. Also wondering if they banned playing with extensions except for difficult shots because I haven't seen Shane play with out it in a long time. All just speculation and excuses in the end though.
Exactly. The tables are actually 5' x 9'. The extra 0.5' changes all of the angles SVB and your average pool player would be accustomed to, and with the tighter snooker-style pockets it makes the table play much tougher than a 4.5' x 9' diamond or similar.
those pockets change everything you have to be used to it balls attached to the cushions are difficult to pocket into the corners you have to set up for straight shots
Chris Ayers it's pretty much a snooker table pool players can't play on tables with smaller pockets
pool balls are larger then snooker balls... fairly certain most snooker players would have a hard time playing Chinese 8 ball as well...
Shane can handle tight pockets, it's the rounded openings that really mess up western players.
Anyone care to explain what's wrong with the table..? I'm new...
Looks pretty normal to me apart from it being green.
Marlon pockets are smaller. and i believe ball size is different also. its basically a hybrid between the snooker tables and 8 ball pool balls in an effort to create a harder version of 8 ball.
its pretty tough. i play on one of these every week and its not perfectly level. let me tell u i run out 6 balls within the rack and im pretty happy with that level of play.
seeing these guys play on a better table and do worse gives me hope lol
Lord Karnage BB the last line lmfao
Sad that billards is not more popular
Normally Snooker Table has tight pockets like this. That's why Shane is unable to play his normal attacking game.
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These tight snooker pockets were really frustrating Shane. Never seen him miss shots that seem so easy.
Mike A Considering the fact that Shane plays most of his time on American pool tables, it's not a surprise that he misses a lot on this table. It's nothing about skill but just different muscle memory.
This is not a snooker table
The rounded pocket openings are typical of either snooker or English billiard tables. VERY frustrating if you're not used to them.
Yeah, so it is a small snooker table not a big pool table.
Thats why they are fake pros
O Shane está acostumado com as caçapas maiores das mesas americanas, essas chinesas são mais apertadas.
Shane aiming system is not effective in this difficult chinese table
Chinese man too good
snooker tables
this is not a snooker table
15FG4SI - so is it a big pool table or a little snooker table lol.
the table is standard size for American 8 ball (9'x4.5') but it has regulation snooker pockets. The pockets have a 3.5" opening (American tables are 4.5") with rounded knuckles that don't allow a rattled ball to drop. Also, they use much faster cloth and a heated table to make it roll faster. It is an insanely difficult table to play on.
Chris Amadei so it's a hybrid then?! thanks for the info
15FG4SI These tables are very nice. Tough equipment
shane seems as comfortable as a long tail cat in a room full of rocking chairs
30:59 "Mother fuck me" XDXDXD
Cant believe shane van boening miss a simple shot like that.
Here in Perú the pockets are the medium of the chinese table here is so hard to pot really!!
12:24 Bu Keqi ;)
gotta 👻 at the thumbnail 😂🐛
dude they are playing on a dam snooker table sorry Shane that table has to have the balls be hit straight in
@keith gould it's a 9 ft snooker table.
1:49:20 trick shot!
Earl strickland should like this table
So I have to state my opinion since everyone else does. I am an avid player of american pool simple because I live in america and other options of cue sports are not readily available. I enjoy watching many different cue sports (including novuss) and I'm not against anything new. I even liked when new games were introduced for american pool even though I agree old men stuck in their ways and shady gambling in a bar with drunks, and tournaments with no professionalism in their attire or attitude, have slowly killed the desire for most to take up the game as well as destroy any chances of making new games for it. With that said I can say for this game I just do not like how the pockets don't allow for any balls down the rail. I understand that amercian pool tables are more receptive accepting those shots and I love watching snooker because for a game where there is 15 red balls to choose from you can get away with balls on the rail more often and still win the rack but in pool sports placed on this table if even on ball is on the rail you can't run the rack or even have a chance to make the shot and gain position. Even Yu Ting in the beginning of the match couldn't finish the 8 ball due to this reason. I don't prefer watching something where you are literally punished for the roll of the table to that degree. otherwise I believe the game is extremely challenging and demands more focus, accuracy, and shot control. Good match and I hope to see Shane win next year!!! He travels the world to be better at all cue sports not just the best pool player.
i live in china and honestly most of the pool halls out here have this terrible snooker tables. The pockets are very tight and a game takes forever since its really hard to pot a ball
Moe Green Really ? Haha here in peru the pockets Are so hard more hard than this table
Moe Green why it never takes me more than 10 minutes per rack then. I am no professional
Ridiculously bad luck at 8:15
34 minutes in and there have been so many missed shots. Nerves Maybe?
Andres64B because it's tight pocket.
people come to see some magic sadly time has caught up with efren hence the small crowd.
1:30:00
These tables are atrocious!!!!!!
Quite the crowd
没人看 呵呵
Painful to watch. No wonder the stands were empty.
Shane best in the world ? hahaha right, well this table is not only for him is for both players ,
Those pockets are to small for Americans
Competidor americano, pelo o que pude notar, não respeita os costumes nem cultura de países diferentes do dele. Digo isso por que a cada formalismo ele dava um sorriso de deboche.
shane just had a off day it happens in pool
Shane was blackmailed into losing the match.
По ходу дела со столом что то не так.... Уж слишком плохо Шейн играл. Может высота другая (выше), да и лузы больше напоминают снукерные.
Oh my get her some gloves that fit her hands!
I'm a rank amateur but I know enough to make adjustments for the tight pockets. Just saying.
Inshane pocket =)
I think he is loosing on purpose.
wthigo77 No, he was just playing bad because he was not used to this kind of table. I like Shane, but plz don't find excuse for his lose.
Lin Zhang
SVB played a lot of matches in chinese 8 ball before this one.
Absolutely this
I think Shane just don't want to be there
Why is everyone complaining about the table? if the table is bigger with pockets that force you to shoot straight and not depend on lucky ball drops, then that just means you gotta up your game as a player or simply not play such games at all.
This is a different game and its not like shane never played it in his life. He is simply not as good at it as in playing american 8 ball, stop being so butthurt.
not only that by what i have read these are a weird size also like 5' by 9' instead of the normal 4.5' by 9' which throws off angles dependent on diamonds
Shane shot his 7 ball down the rail at warp speed while his 8 ball next shot was a hanger. Rail shots with snooker pockets need to be slower. Was he paid to throw the match? Made no sense at all.
It was in game Seven at the end of the rack.
Oh it was the 7 .......i thought 5 or 3 hahahahaha and your right i commented on that too not sure if he was throwing the game . But at the least he was tight and frustrated which is when i think most players tend to go for too much maybe trying to loosen up .
Looks like people refused to pay entry to watch a match on a terrible table.
It's a very good table. It's not the table's fault if u can't play ;)
BladeChild man I bet u got pissed when u saw Shane playing bad on this wonderful table. Get a life.
Shane is picking terrible patterns for this style of table and playing too many safeties. Watch - he tries to bank a ball when he’s down 7-3 but he has a few other options. His opponent isn’t Bette than him he’s just playing smarter. He runs the easiest shots as far as he can then plays safe. Shane can’t run the rest of the rack so his opponent gets up and runs 3 balls. When his opponent misses he misses gently. The next time he gets up his balls are close to the pockets. Shane misses and he fires the ball at the pocket so the ball isn’t close when/if he gets back to the table. Make no mistake, his opponent is a great player, but he doesn’t seem to be better than Shane.
This dude is getting paid to lose bruh,, I know this guy plays good, how can he miss a shot and lose that easily ?
Omar Hassan Al Jufry its because it's a tight pocket Dudu. Don't find any excuse for Shane.
This guy just won the 10-ball a US Open, I can't get your idea.
Chinese are much better player .
this is clearly a sell out match....even if shane try he cant miss n run out of postiton so badly
can shane speak chinese hahaha LOL
tell shane to stop making those faces he makes. it doesnt matter if hev loses those pockets are stupid t!ght. we know he's a winner. no worries there.
I grew up playing on these tables and i know american made pool table players are useless and less accurate on these table, i think ill be able to defeat them all
Shane was beaten like a princy school girl
These are some of the ways that the game is rigged.IMHO: The Star tables are a disgrace. Shame is upon those who conceived & created them, shame is upon anyone that promotes them for international pool. Those from the west that play on them are fools. Also Cyclops balls should be avoided. I played a lot of pool 55 years ago and my impression is that the game "has gone to the dogs." TV changed the game radically what was once "dirty pool" is now the norm.Pool as it is played now-a-days is played for the benefit of the spectators and woe are those like myself who played pool before TV all but ruined pool the game which is, by far, the most fascinatingly difficult of all games.
Putting it plain and simple -- pool is hitting balls into pockets it is not hide and seek (hooks.) it is not croquet (blocking pockets) it is not marbles (ball in hand anywhere.) It is not failing to hit a rail on a kick shot, it is not 3 fouls loses.The game has been over simplified for dolts -- making ten balls without missing a shot and calling that a complete game seems silly when real pool players are making 400 balls and more without missing a shot.
R.I.P
American pool games.
this is chinese 8 ball mate, almost a completely different game than american pool
Yes that is what I am stating. I'm pleased you see it the same way.
ok but why hate on the tables and the balls, if its not the same game? might as well bring snooker into this. its not chinese 8-balls fault american pool is dying, its all shady events/hosts that really killed the game.
Yes I am an arrogant American and I am irked or worse by the demise of American pool FWI: I agree with your reply.
Clark Jones Then don't write down those arrogant words about the "American pool" in your minds. People have to learn to appreciate the variety of billiards games.
English title but gay language she sha sho mo fo punk
oh come on, there's no need to insult different people's language