Do Pipercross Panel Filters Woosh? (Corsa VXR)
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- Today we install a Pipercross performance panel filter on Paul's Corsa VXR to test out the induction noises. This is an important part of your general car maintenance and should be carried out regularly.
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Hey!
Thanks for doing the Video :)
The airbox does alot to stop the noise really coming out, a common upgrade on VXR's is the cone filter!
The foam filter will allow for better airflow though!
Pipercross thanks for watching guys. Really appreciate it! Yeah I was looking to pick one up and make another video, but just trying to get some cash together for mods haha. The to do list never ends!
@@haphazardgarage6439 It's a struggle every car enthusiast goes through haha!
Good job boys, keep up the good work! There is an enclosed cone filter kit available from K&N called a 57s. Quite pricey but may give the “whoosh” your looking for. Agree with other comments regarding open cone filters, they do get on your nerves over time.
fiesta9017 appreciate the support buddy! Might have a look at that K&N one dude. I’m looking for a compromise between induction noise and not being a pain in the butt
It says it’s a D however airboxes are the same from the D to the E. Look forward to seeing it if you do go for it.
fiesta9017 the E is basically a facelift. Almost every major part is the same. It’s convenient for the after market on them
I know mate. Had a Nurburgring D so even exhaust carried over for the E. Look forward to seeing this channel progress.
fiesta9017 love the Burgs! Thanks buddy, we really appreciate the support!
Our next video will be a mod that one of our subscribers requested a little while back. We're really excited to work with our viewers, so let us know of any mods you'd like to see us do and we'll see if we can give you a shout out in a future video. Thanks for watching!
I fitted a K&N panel to mine just before xmas and got instant 'woosh' as you call it. Might be my imagination but I think it delivers power more smoothly too.
Kyle Baldwin that’s interesting that we got barely anything with Pipercross. I think they offer a nice placebo effect because I thought my car powered smoother as well. They possibly do smooth out the intake of air you know!
@@haphazardgarage6439 if I remember i'll do a video tomorrow. dust off the old camcorder lol
Kyle Baldwin sounds good mate! I’d like to see if it’s worth changing mine!
@@haphazardgarage6439 I was a bit sceptical having never bought any aftermarket parts for an engine before, but it seems alright! Not sure if i'm enjoying the noise too much or weather it uses more fuel - will find out in due course of ownership/fill ups - I have kept records of every fill up since purchase so I can work it out to an extent. I found your video of changing the seatbelts useful earlier today, I changed my rear speakers and needed the same sort of access. I wasn't quite so gentle, the plastic trim tools were useful to an extent but I cracked out the crowbar in the end lol
Kyle Baldwin thanks for that mate I really appreciate it! I doubt it would have any fuel usage issues at all, that would be map dependant. Yeah same process for speaker changes. I hate those hook shaped clips. Such a nightmare to remove without snapping!
Hirsch performance run a standard box with little holes drilled in it pre filter side...Great little mod that gives induction and blow off more volume
Wonder if a should drill a couple of holes in standard box and post the difference
@@user-tf4sk1tn2h I've done it on all my aeros after learning that...minimal difference tbh
All i can hear is chain rattle lol
iain findlater haha, yeah they are quite noisy engines. Very ticky on idle as well. Must be all those melted pistons
Haha, quite gd fun when there tuned a bit.
There can be no chain rattle when there is no chain.... the noise comes from the valves/badly shimmed bucket tappets, and there is only a plastic valvecover on top of the engine.
@@wiLdchiLd2k Thanks for a comment because Mr Finland is rather a poor motorist and his car knowledge is an utter shit.
Sounds like a diesel.. That’s what happens when Peugeot buy Vauxhall out 🤣
Get a pipercross cone! Getting close to a 100 subs buddy!
TCR Racing thanks man! I took one for the team by testing out the panel filter. Maybe saved someone a few quid if they weren’t happy with the results!
Sounds like your engine has had tap dance lessons
I brought a Ramair Filter Cone for mine, the woosshh noise was so loud, got very annoying. Took it back to standard.
Of course you are not going to get the ‘whoosh’ regardless of the filter change it is inside a enclosed box designed to keep noise down. To get the noise change it to a cone filter OR drill the bottom of the box under where the filter stands.
Manic King True for this model of car, but a panel filter change makes a massive difference to the noise on plenty of cars. Just hope this video helps at least one person from buying one for the sole purpose of noise.
Oh yea sure it’s a good video I liked it. But you are just changing a rubbish panel filter to a decent one and the woosh noise would just the the factory recirculating blow off valve. And because most the time when a cone is used and it’s all open then you can hear it much better. but it’s all good.
Manic King I think we will be fitting an induction kit shortly so that’ll be good fun! Can’t wait for summer!
Ahh me too ! My SRI/VXR will be at 250BHP by summer time !
You can hear the difference, it's slight, you can hear it better while in the car with the windows up also from my experience it gets louder after a week or two of use, no idea why.
As the oil density becomes less, the filter breathes even better after settling in.
Hi. Are all the pipercorss panel filters oil based or dry? Cant seem to find out anywhere. Cheers
get memed they are oiled buddy. Not sure on intervals for re-oiling though
@@haphazardgarage6439 nice one cheers. Cleaning instructions came with mine so I'm good for that. It said clean every 20k miles
is the induction noise any louder on the inside?
Danny nothing noticeable on the inside, certainly not compared to a cone induction kit.
I had a ramair cone on mine and i ended up taking it off the whoosh and choooing noises began to get on my nerves lol
Jamie Mcghee Trade?? Haha this is maybe the perfect compromise for you then dude! Maybe not loud enough for me
@@haphazardgarage6439 trade if you want lol
Whats that big pipe across top of engine which goes into your air filter pipe? I dont see this on mine
The padded one? I would say it’s the turbo recirculation to the intake. It has its own air flow sensor too. If your one is older, it’s maybe tucked underneath.
@@haphazardgarage6439 just done a quick google imagines search. I have a d nurburgring edition. Its only visible on the E 👍
Should of done a road test was there any noticeable power gains
Peter benn pan hey thanks for watching man! I couldn’t see any difference at all in performance and there wasn’t even a real noticeable change in note when under load either. Shame really!
@@haphazardgarage6439 I've heard these help when it comes to remapping as the airflow increase gives more room for improvement?
I see, that your Airbox on the Upper Side have no Pipe in there?! Have you changed this?
schraxxi Hey! Thanks for the question! The air box draws from underneath the filter, in the wheel arch, and the intake pipe you see on top leads to intake manifold. My box hasn’t been altered.
@@haphazardgarage6439
Thanks! But i mean the Pipe that goes into the MAF (Luftmassenmesser). The Top of the Airbox is not changed ?
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schraxxi no, no changes at all there. Is your one different?
@@haphazardgarage6439
You have no Pipe in the Top of the Airbox ... you can see it at 2:41
schraxxi perhaps a slightly different design on the Corsa E VXR? I can’t say for sure. I’ll need to look into that! Thanks buddy!
The Pipercross filter looks bent at the top left corner?
Yeah they’re quite flexible being made of rubber and foam. Quite easy to manipulate to shape.
@@haphazardgarage6439 I know, i've had a few Pipercross filters....but if you look at 5.21, it looks bent in and not level with the airbox base, hence wont be a good seal?
On voit bien la différence de respiration avec le pipercross
You need new timing chain kit
Fotget about the woosh , get that rattley top end sorted.
Standard noise for these engines really. The camera perhaps makes it sound a bit worse. But I’ve listened to plenty Vauxhall turbo engines and they are ticky boys.
My 84.000km Nürburg isnt that loud, not even on video filmed with a potato or toaster. Change to Mobile1 0W40 Oil or other thinner oil... it will make it way better.
Hi why dose the car engine sound like shit? It very tappet
Whoever put that filter in before you put the pipe on the wrong way the airflow is marked by the arrow and it always travels towards the filter, I thought your mass airflow sensor was on the wrong side 🤔
Andrew latter ahh! That’s really interesting. I never knew that. So I was correct when I had my worries that someone had been messing around with it before me! Thanks dude.
no it doesn't , the air flow is marked AWAY from filter, as in the air reaches the filter first before circulating to the intake manifold through the sensor thus calculating how much fuel is needed....
Sounds broke
Please DON'T I got 20mpg today on a normal run not hard driving. Pish
Chucky Dee Real is that with a cone filter? That’s really bad economy there mate!
Panel filter they don't work. I've been in the scene since the 90s and I've found ANY cold induction cone or panel are bad for economy and don't give the promised power gains.
@@chuckydreal9040 when increasing air flow/volume, ECU needs to be remapped.
Talking about run of the mill bolt on and panel filters, obviously all don't all go to the extent of a retune flip flop, there are only measly gains even after that..plus this is over a year ago this comment was made, where you been at?
@@chuckydreal9040 I was busy tuning ECU all this time just to find out there's no point for a panel filter.
No stututus, such disappoint.
Matt White I’d hoped to be choo chooing along the road, but this didn’t work- watch this space 🤙