DSLR vs Mirrorless in 2024, Is It Even Worth the Fight?

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  • @user-JM1967
    @user-JM1967 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Nikon D850 (from 2017) has 11 stops of Dynamic Range by Photons on Photos site. Legendary camera for many and many years to the future!

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I output of the D850 should hold water until any surviving memory of it finally dies out

    • @user-JM1967
      @user-JM1967 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      So, Nikon D610 (from 2014) has 11 stops of Dynamic Range too, by Photons on Photos site. Did you see that list?

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ no. I don’t like charts personally. They tend to whip people into frenzy when over the extremes.

  • @DAVE_WHITE
    @DAVE_WHITE 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Find the gear that works for you it is that simple, as long as you are doing what you like with photography.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🙌

  • @kevintallant3922
    @kevintallant3922 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Well. I went the other way. Sold all of my Z and bought back DSLR. I find it a better experience. Got an S5II sat gathering dust. Can’t beat the optical experience though I would concede on the quality of Z Camera viewfinders.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right on dude thanks for watching!

  • @martinhommel9967
    @martinhommel9967 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I have two mirrorless cameras and a DSLR (Z6, Canon R7, Canon 90d) I prefer the experience you get from taking photographs with the DSLR by far.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤙🤙

  • @bobbullethalf
    @bobbullethalf 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I went from optical view finders to the mirrorless ones, and I honestly have never looked back.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I love it too

    • @northofbrandon
      @northofbrandon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ironically you can review in OVF, meaning you can scrub backwards and 'look back' :P

    • @sovu9399
      @sovu9399 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I did the same, but i loocked back, and never went back)

  • @TFUTM
    @TFUTM 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Newer cameras make the craft element of photography easier but don't necessarily make the art better. That is in the mind of the photographer and will be influenced by digital view finders. If the picture you think you see in your head disappears when you look through the viewfinder (all you can see is Nikon Standard), that might not help.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ☝️

  • @BP-xe7dw
    @BP-xe7dw 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It depends what you do. If you are a pro, autofocus accuracy is paramount for any type of events, in body stabilization.. picture quality is debatable, again it depends for what. Future proof your gear. If it's your hobby, great cameras don't become bad beceause new cameras hit the market.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching ☝️

  • @DavidStewart-jb7mo
    @DavidStewart-jb7mo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Zack, I agree with you to a point. There are still some smaller photographic niches where DSLRs still shine. My D750 is converted for full spectrum photography. I still use my D850 and D810A for Aurora. This type of photography when using a DSLR, everything is manual, focus and exposure. The same glass that I would use on a Z mount, is not available from Nikkor yet, but third party glass by Sigma (F mount) and some Chinese companies (Z mount) is. There is still a use for my DSLRs but their days are numbered. My Z8 with my Sigma 28mm f1.4 will autofocus on the night sky.
    If you can afford it, go directly from the DSLRs to the Zs with the Expeed 7 microprocessor, they are head and shoulders above the others in all respects.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for watching David

    • @PsychedelicChameleon
      @PsychedelicChameleon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not being able to afford an Expeed 7 camera body was the only thing that bothered me about my recent purchase, but my photos are so much better now especially under conditions of low light with hardly any time to compose and focus, that I don't regret my purchase one bit!

    • @DavidStewart-jb7mo
      @DavidStewart-jb7mo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@PsychedelicChameleon Don't discount the Zf, it may have a retro look, but it is head and shoulders above the Z6 ii and if the resolution was higher, then the Z7 ii also. I have one and it is a fantastic camera.

  • @gordonbrown5901
    @gordonbrown5901 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    As long as people value the OVF DSLR's will be used. The optical view is irreplaceable by an EVF. And most modern DSLR's have great LV abilities, like the S780. Now if someone could make a DSLR with a Fuji like slide in evf screen in the ovf viewfinder, nirvana!

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤙🤙🤙🤙

  • @johnfromconnecticut
    @johnfromconnecticut 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    In July of 2021 I did a thorough investigation whether to keep my DSLR kit including D4S, D3S, and D750 and a bunch of gold-ring F-mounts or start the transition to mirrorless. I rented a Z7II and a couple of Z lenses. I loved the Z lens output, I hated the Z7II experience, especially the ergonomics and the EVF. I decided to stay with my DSLR kit and actually started building back the F2 film kit of my youth.
    Fast forward to the Z9. Wow! I tried it and it sold me on mirrorless. It resolved all my issues regarding ergonomics and the EVF. One by one I traded mf F-mounts for Z's and couldn't be happier. The advantages of mirrorless just blew my DSLR thinking out of the water.
    Then comes the Zf - Wow again! This one combined incredible mirrorless technology with the retro look and feel of the Nikon film cameras of my youth. Another winner!
    Anyone getting into photography these days would be much better with an entry level mirrorless over any DSLR.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Totally agree John 🙌 thanks for being a member and watching early!
      Bodyscape content coming possible by Wednesday 🤙🤙🤙

    • @realnikonlover6207
      @realnikonlover6207 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Amen! Ditto. Now I have a stable of F glass and a D850 I am selling off .

    • @johnfromconnecticut
      @johnfromconnecticut 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@realnikonlover6207 The D850 will forever live in the Temple of Nikon Legends. But for now, the Z System is the pathway to the future.

  • @Zobeid
    @Zobeid 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    1:23 "And when it comes to autofocusing, you get almost 100% of the viewfinder to move your autofocus point around, and that means no more focus-and-recompose, which I'll never miss shooting like that."
    To me, center spot focus, focus-and-recompose, seems to me like the simplest, quickest and most intuitive way to work. It takes a second, maybe less. Fiddling with a joystick or a touch screen takes too long and is a needless distraction. Using multiple focus points and hoping the camera locks onto the thing I want only leads to frustration. I look at camera reviews that go into half a dozen different autofocus modes, plus a joystick to fiddle with, and I don't get it. How is all that complexity an improvement?
    2:15 "DSLR warranties are over, and they ain't making any more. Once the parts are gone, they are probably going to be gone, so good luck fixing it."
    Pentax would like a word.
    Anyhow, I have turned into a bit of a viewfinder snob. I want a really good viewfinder. Some EVFs are really good now, but they are on the highest-spec and highest-dollar bodies.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      1. Do what works for you.
      2nd point, generally when I'm talk i'm talking about the big three 35mm unless i specifically mention Fuji or Hassy, and I don't know a single person Pentax. I'm never talking about pentax.
      lol
      thanks for watching.

  • @Narsuitus
    @Narsuitus 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks for the video.
    I agree that a new person should start with mirrorless.
    In my case, when I was new to digital, I needed a camera that could use my two-dozen 35mm Nikon lens inventory. Regretfully, Nikon took too long to develop their full-frame dSLRs and their full-frame digital mirrorless cameras.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for watching Narsuitus

  • @Rivenworld
    @Rivenworld 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    At the end of the day, it is a camera, it takes pictures, whichever you prefer works for you so there shouldn't even be a 'versus' scenario, it is a tool, simple as that.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In my opinion, unless it’s your first one, might as well get the most modern you can afford

  • @Audimann
    @Audimann 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I believe the same discussion happened sometime 20 or 25 years ago. It was analog slr vs dslr back then. Funny thing is that Leica still builds analog cameras like the M6. And there are still camera shops around which only deal in analog stuff.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sure. Though I would argue the differences between film and digital is vastly different than DSLR and Mirrorless. Digital vs different digital

    • @Audimann
      @Audimann 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ZWadePhoto Yep you are right. But mastering composition and exposure is all the same no matter what type of camera you have. Are there are still people who think that P mode stands for "Professional" 🤣🤣

  • @garrywatters1140
    @garrywatters1140 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have hedged my bets and have both systems. I have a canon 1DX with L lenses which I still love using. I also have a canon R5 with RF lenses and an adapter for the EF L lenses. I use them both frequently but for different scenarios. The 1DX is great for portraiture and landscape work. The R5 is great for sport and wildlife.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🙌🙌

  • @Ton-x4r
    @Ton-x4r 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My only Z camera is the Z5 and maybe I will get a Z7ii or something when I see a great deal second hand. But I will never let go my D850's, D810, D4, D3x, D700 and many more. Ok there is quite some sentiment keeping these camera's but I just like it this way. Cheers.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙

  • @fotowalo
    @fotowalo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Ich kanns leider nicht in englisch.... Spiegellose Kameras sind den DSLR überlegen, weil der inexistente Spiegel keinen Platz benötigt und deshalb mehr senkrechte Strahlen auf dem Empfängermedium auftreffen. (Kürzere Distanz zwischen Objektiv und Kamerasensor) Es gibt also weniger schräge Strahlengänge zu korrigieren, was viele der optischen Fehler von vornherein eliminiert.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Excellent points my friend. Thanks for watching

    • @PsychedelicChameleon
      @PsychedelicChameleon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Google Translate of @fotowalo's comment: "Unfortunately, I can't speak English... Mirrorless cameras are superior to DSLRs because the non-existent mirror doesn't require any space and therefore more vertical rays hit the receiving medium. (Shorter distance between lens and camera sensor) So there are fewer oblique beam paths to correct, which eliminates many of the optical errors from the outset."

  • @manilamartin1001
    @manilamartin1001 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    love seeing you dressed up. Looks great on you with the tie.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😎🎩

  • @spirg
    @spirg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just switched to mirrorless, Love the EVF , i know thats preference, also like the smaller, lighter body , as im getting older ... when i hold my dslr now , it looks and feels really old.
    but the dslrs arent going away anytime soon....

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m definitely a mirrorless guy now too. Thanks for watching

  • @jamesspicewilliams8835
    @jamesspicewilliams8835 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Totally agree with you my friend.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Appreciate you watching James 🤙🤙

  • @mongini1
    @mongini1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Looking back, I had a great time with my D750... But live preview of the final image before its taken, especially with Fuji's insanely good processing and awesome Eye AF (X-H2 here), is a godsend.
    One thing to you Wade: that glossy screen you got would drive me insane xD

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I almost got the matte screen, but all the reviews of that model year said the colors were noticeably dull lol.
      I usually edit with no lights so it doesn’t bother me haha.

  • @Wally519007
    @Wally519007 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’m grateful for this post. Just this week I was considering trading in my D750 and a D810 and I think you’ve given me the answer. These are great cameras but nothing comparable to the mirrorless and the tech that they come with. I’m a little sad to see them go but im also ready to embrace the new tech.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad I could help. Especially if you’re in the budget range of a Z8, the performance is undeniable. But I would encourage you to be patient to see what happens with the Z6iii. Many people have been left wanting with the 6ii and earlier when switching from full frame DSLR as far as AF performance and such. I wasn’t, but I’m not an action shooter.
      The ZF, upcoming Z6ii, Z8 and Z9 are for sure massive upgrades.

    • @Wally519007
      @Wally519007 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ZWadePhoto I've actually been looking at the Z7ii but I'll try to be patient with the release of the newer cameras. If they haven't been released by the time I'm ready to make my trade, which should probably be around the 1st week of May I'll consider your recommendation for the Z8. A little over my budget but I'll make it work.

  • @csc-photo
    @csc-photo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Best summary I’ve heard on this topic 👍🏻

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🙌🙌🙌🙌

  • @izziereal2010
    @izziereal2010 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    With Mirrorless cameras, the DSLR is an old technology that had its purpose and cannot compete. Beginners should begin with Mirrorless.
    I own the ZF and it's an incredible camera. However, when I go to work, I carry either my D610 or D750 to take pictures for records of the jobs (construction). They are better than my phone and continue to have a use for them.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙

  • @brusselssprout1
    @brusselssprout1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nah, (D)SLR is more fun. The basic architecture of a (D)SLR (mirror+prism+OVF) provides a physical link between the photographer and the world, whereas mirrorless decides what the world might look like by showing it through a "TV" screen., imposing its own interpretation of illumination, colours, contrast, etc. I do realise that, at the tail end, photons go through identical sensor capture and data crunching processes, and produce identical image files, but that is not the point.
    Also, a (D)SLRs only does what the photographer asks it to do, nothing more, while mirrorless tries to do everything on behalf of the photographer, and you often have to "fight" against it to reassert full control. I realise that what I just described is a very subjective feel. In a nutshell, I prefer driving to being driven. I feel that even more when using a Leica M of course, as that one provides an absolutely unhindered direct view of the scene and very little to no automation, but that one carries other issues and limitations.
    Finally, latest generation medium to high end DSLRs (I know there will never be a next generation DSLR) are functionally excellent (AF, metering, shutter speeds, etc) and will provide the same IQ and manage to capture the same challenging images as mirrorless while providing me with a much more satisfying shooting experience. That is my personal experience anyway and I do use fine specimens of both architectures on a daily basis.
    Video is a completely different kettle of fish obviously: nobody will ever miss the OVF experience of Super 8 or 16mm cameras. If you do constantly combine video and still photography, mirrorless becomes a no-brainer.....😊

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤙

  • @nassimabed
    @nassimabed 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The best camera is the one you have in hand and the best performance comes from your skill and talent. And no, the newbie photographer will not "need" 100 frames per second.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the input

  • @magiccarpetrider4594
    @magiccarpetrider4594 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use mirrorless for focus peaking. I prefer manual focusing and manufacturers have killed it in DSLRs over the years by taking away ground glass options. I shoot a full kit of Zeiss primes.
    I also shoot Leica M11s although I’m not a fan of rangefinder patches, but can use EVF. 5 years ago I’d cringe at anything besides optical.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🙌🙌🙌

  • @PharaohMan007
    @PharaohMan007 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Agreed! Good points

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching PharaohMan

  • @mftran
    @mftran 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Although I agree that you can’t buy gear and magically become a great photographer, I will say that my R6II and new RF lenses make shooting so easy, it feels like I bought talent. The new stuff enables me to shoot photos I could never before. Nailing focus on a moving subject’s eye at F1.2 is insane.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exactly. It won’t make you better at photography, but it makes getting the shots you wanted easier for SURE haha.
      Thanks for watching my friend!

  • @JohnPepp
    @JohnPepp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like mirrorless because of the auto focus capabilities, but I think manufacturers and a lot of TH-camrs over hype the auto focus capabilities of these mirrorless cameras. Don't get me wrong they are very good in focusing but the hype exaggerates it.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I never over exaggerated the Nikon Z6 6ii and 7ii. I consider myself a pioneer of calling Nikon on their shortcomings and praising their successes when everyone else seemed to be screaming "they're blameless" or "they're going bankrupt"
      I don't exaggerate on the what I can do with the Z9. It really is as good as I say it is at least.

  • @Butterfly_bld22
    @Butterfly_bld22 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Canon 5D Mark IIII was my dream camera for yrs...I just got it and now I have to switch? :(

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You don’t have to switch

  • @visionz_n_media
    @visionz_n_media 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well said 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

  • @eldengard23
    @eldengard23 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dslrs are still better for shooting parties and dance floors because of the af asist light that doesn’t work on milc

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      At least with the Z8 and Z9, I regularly achieve focus, even in tracking modes, in reeeeaaaaaaly dark scenes. Perhaps the Z6ii and earlier struggle more, it’s been a long time since I’ve used them now

    • @PsychedelicChameleon
      @PsychedelicChameleon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What is "milc"?

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@PsychedelicChameleon I think he mean ME camera

    • @eldengard23
      @eldengard23 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@PsychedelicChameleon mirrorless interchangeable lens camera

    • @eldengard23
      @eldengard23 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ZWadePhoto ye im on the z9 and its nowhere close to how dslrs with af assist beam accuracy and speed. I do a lot of manual focusing on partyes that inhave to flash
      I’ll prolly ged a d5 or d6 just for my nightlife stuff

  • @bestmoviesever1
    @bestmoviesever1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a feeling in a few years from now, there will be a nostalgia trend for using DSLRs and young people will say that they use DSLRs for the more retro look.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hahaha I’m sure. Even though the differences before mirrorless and DSlr are not nearly as noteworthy as dslr and film 🤷‍♂️ f**k it, I’m going pinhole.

  • @luissalazar2021
    @luissalazar2021 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great job

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @stevenbamford5245
    @stevenbamford5245 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nikon D850 in the used market is still circa £1600 and the Canon 5Div just a little less, buying good lenses for either is still £600-1000 for 1.4 to 2.8 pro quality.
    Top DSLR systems are still holding their value, it's probably cheaper to go mirrorless 😂 it's a very strange market, I could get into a Fujifilm system cheaper than a Nikon D850 system.

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not fujifilm GFX lmfao

    • @stevenbamford5245
      @stevenbamford5245 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ZWadePhoto We are talking mainstream not niche, an XT-5 with a couple of primes is cheaper than the D850.

  • @tubularificationed
    @tubularificationed 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Agree all around. The probably ONLY image quality advantage for DSLR might be, that it doesn't have a problem which mirrorless had introduced:
    - the short flange distance,
    - which reduces the distance between a native lens' rear lens element and the sensor
    - which in turn causes hard, steep angles at which light hits the sensor (apart from the image center);
    - if then you are a landscape photographer who likes wide angle shots which include the sun with pretty star bursts,
    - therefore you routinely go for small apertures,
    - you often would see a new kind of red/purple ghosting, alternating in a grid pattern around the sun. That's an artifact caused by light bouncing between sensor components (between optical layers / filters down to the micro lenses) and causing some inference effects (my best guess).
    An example is given in the dpreview forum thread "Terrible sensor flaring with a7Riv", but this problem is not Sony specific, also Canon R has it, also Fuji X. Essentially every mirrorless camera (using a native mirrorless lens) is prone to that.
    But if you are not a starbursts addict, i.e. avoid artifact provoking conditions (avoid apertures smaller than f/8 or so), then there's no problem ruining your shot 🙂

    • @ZWadePhoto
      @ZWadePhoto  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching!