Thanks for this video. I would appreciate if I could have a bit of clarification regarding the adjustment the values of the Garment Fit Properties. I notice in the video the that speaker says to "lower the percentage value for very stretchy fabrics....and then to you should raise the percentage value for non-stretchy fabrics". However, this directly contradicts what Clo communicates in its "CLO Garment Fit Maps Guide" pdf. On page 8 of the "CLO Garment Fit Maps Guide" pdf it states to "raise the percentage value for very stretchy fabrics and to lower the percentage value for non-stretch/low-stretch fabrics". I would greatly appreciate if Clo would advise which information is correct....the information from the speaker in the video or the information from the pdf.
Still having a hard time understanding the basic difference between stress and strain. Is it safe to say stress is more about positive ease when dealing with the fit of woven garments and strain is more relevant to knits where you would be working more negative ease and compression?
@@CLO3D Yeah, I've reviewed those and the manual and I'm just not wrapping my mind around the differences. For example, it says that the stress map " displays the force per unit area in kPa applied to a garment by external stress". What is external stress? Is that movement of the body such as bending or sitting? If so, how is that NOT the fit map? I just looking for a simple real world explanation for each map along with an idea of when to reference one over another. Thank you,
@@MADEApparelServices Stress is force on the fabric. This force is exerted due to being worn on the body, and body shape exerts this force. Strain is change in length or deformation in fabric due to exerted force.
Hi I have a question regarding fabric tearing and tensile stretch test. I want to use Clo3D to test fabric for a specific fit. For example I have a cord denim fabric with warp x weft tearing stretch 8lb/5lb I want to see if the weft strong enough to be used for fitted jeans or jacket because the requirement for weft that I have is 6lb and received fabric has 1lb less. I want to see if this makes a significant difference for the style durability when tension is applied to the area on the weft. I do see that the first map has something similar but in kpa measuring system which is different from the system our testing lab uses. Would you recommend this type of check or there is another tool that I can use in CLO?
Hi @alexa_zet. Do you work for an Enterprise company that uses CLO? Do you have a proper .zfab file and how Was the material tested? By us or by a team using the CLO fabric Kit? Or was it tested another way? To verify the details of the materials tearing stretch of 8lb/5lb mentioned above the material must be accurately represented in the fabric's physical properties through proper fabric digitization. During this digitization process, there should have been information about the fabric's strain values corresponding to the tearing threshold of 8lb/5lb. If properly tested it should then be possible to visualize the desired information based on that data. But if this was not done using the CLO fabric kit then CLO currently does not have a feature that allows users to intuitively and accurately confirm such information. But the "Fit map" within Fit maps is roughly intended to display something along those lines of what you are looking to to to at least give you a very good/close idea
Do I need to know Maximum Stress-Strain of my fabric? Can't the software automatically know it from the physical properties if I am using the Clo Fabric Kit?
Correct. CLO will know if you use the fabric kit. But you will still want to turn on the stress/strain maps to check if it is fitting properly or is too tight. Since fabric cannot "rip" in 3D the fit maps allow the garment to "speak" to you like a fit model would
@@CLO3D That I understood, but what I didn't get is why I need to manually enter the maximum values for stress and strain in the fit properties dialog box.
But if we are still not answering correctly please either reach out to your CLO representative directly is you are an Enterprise Client. Or if you are an individual please post to our community forums which will allow you to add visuals to helps us assist more
10:20 "When working with very stretchy fabric, I need to actually lower the KPI". Everything becomes trivial from the moment you manually change these values to fit your pattern and materials. Unless I'm getting something wrong here, you are basically cheating!
Changing the KPI entails understanding your RL fabric, knowing it's KPI and editing in in CLO. No faking it, but rather knowing the correct data and applying it.
@@CLO3D Thanks for the answer. I understand, but I believe the average designer Joe/Jane does not usually know the physical behaviour / chemical material composition in numbers. That being said, I didn't realize I was commenting on an official CLO tutorial and I proceed to turn my criticizing into an apology and compliment for giving the software this level of flexibility.
Thanks for this video.
I would appreciate if I could have a bit of clarification regarding the adjustment the values of the Garment Fit Properties.
I notice in the video the that speaker says to "lower the percentage value for very stretchy fabrics....and then to you should raise the percentage value for non-stretchy fabrics".
However, this directly contradicts what Clo communicates in its "CLO Garment Fit Maps Guide" pdf.
On page 8 of the "CLO Garment Fit Maps Guide" pdf it states to "raise the percentage value for very stretchy fabrics and to lower the percentage value for non-stretch/low-stretch fabrics".
I would greatly appreciate if Clo would advise which information is correct....the information from the speaker in the video or the information from the pdf.
Hi Julian. I have forwarded this question on to our Fabrics team. Will let you know as soon as I have received their reply
I am wondering the same thing. Did you get a reply?
Did you get a reply?
Still having a hard time understanding the basic difference between stress and strain. Is it safe to say stress is more about positive ease when dealing with the fit of woven garments and strain is more relevant to knits where you would be working more negative ease and compression?
Have a look at this to see if it helps. support.clo3d.com/hc/en-us/articles/360052622933-CLO-Garment-Fit-Maps-Guide
@@CLO3D Yeah, I've reviewed those and the manual and I'm just not wrapping my mind around the differences. For example, it says that the stress map " displays the force per unit area in kPa applied to a garment by external stress". What is external stress? Is that movement of the body such as bending or sitting? If so, how is that NOT the fit map? I just looking for a simple real world explanation for each map along with an idea of when to reference one over another. Thank you,
@@MADEApparelServices Stress is force on the fabric. This force is exerted due to being worn on the body, and body shape exerts this force. Strain is change in length or deformation in fabric due to exerted force.
Hi I have a question regarding fabric tearing and tensile stretch test. I want to use Clo3D to test fabric for a specific fit. For example I have a cord denim fabric with warp x weft tearing stretch 8lb/5lb I want to see if the weft strong enough to be used for fitted jeans or jacket because the requirement for weft that I have is 6lb and received fabric has 1lb less. I want to see if this makes a significant difference for the style durability when tension is applied to the area on the weft. I do see that the first map has something similar but in kpa measuring system which is different from the system our testing lab uses. Would you recommend this type of check or there is another tool that I can use in CLO?
Hi @alexa_zet. Do you work for an Enterprise company that uses CLO?
Do you have a proper .zfab file and how Was the material tested? By us or by a team using the CLO fabric Kit? Or was it tested another way?
To verify the details of the materials tearing stretch of 8lb/5lb mentioned above the material must be accurately represented in the fabric's physical properties through proper fabric digitization.
During this digitization process, there should have been information about the fabric's strain values corresponding to the tearing threshold of 8lb/5lb. If properly tested it should then be possible to visualize the desired information based on that data.
But if this was not done using the CLO fabric kit then CLO currently does not have a feature that allows users to intuitively and accurately confirm such information. But the "Fit map" within Fit maps is roughly intended to display something along those lines of what you are looking to to to at least give you a very good/close idea
Do I need to know Maximum Stress-Strain of my fabric? Can't the software automatically know it from the physical properties if I am using the Clo Fabric Kit?
Correct. CLO will know if you use the fabric kit. But you will still want to turn on the stress/strain maps to check if it is fitting properly or is too tight. Since fabric cannot "rip" in 3D the fit maps allow the garment to "speak" to you like a fit model would
@@CLO3D That I understood, but what I didn't get is why I need to manually enter the maximum values for stress and strain in the fit properties dialog box.
@@brahamdutt6664 Those should already be entered when the fabric is digitized with the fabric kit
But if we are still not answering correctly please either reach out to your CLO representative directly is you are an Enterprise Client. Or if you are an individual please post to our community forums which will allow you to add visuals to helps us assist more
How do you export strain map and or stress map out of clo ?
It is only possible to take a snapshot of the 3D window.
Thank you, Very informative and helpful instructional video
You are welcome.
thanks you, it is very helpful. if possible share another video for different type fabrics.
We are so happy to hear that. This video knowledge can be applied to all different fabrics :)
could make other video for adjusting solution?
Did you check for a solution in our forums? support.clo3d.com/hc/en-us
@@CLO3D
very useful thank you
@@kaopanha5090 Great!
Great tutorial! Thank you :-)
You're very welcome!
10:20 "When working with very stretchy fabric, I need to actually lower the KPI". Everything becomes trivial from the moment you manually change these values to fit your pattern and materials. Unless I'm getting something wrong here, you are basically cheating!
Changing the KPI entails understanding your RL fabric, knowing it's KPI and editing in in CLO. No faking it, but rather knowing the correct data and applying it.
@@CLO3D Thanks for the answer. I understand, but I believe the average designer Joe/Jane does not usually know the physical behaviour / chemical material composition in numbers.
That being said, I didn't realize I was commenting on an official CLO tutorial and I proceed to turn my criticizing into an apology and compliment for giving the software this level of flexibility.
Thanks it’s useful love it❤️
You’re welcome 😊
Please share files.
Not all lessons come with an accompanying file. Rather the technique should be applied to your own design.