Months and months after this video convinced me to buy a Bill Kelso A-2... and I finally have it! I was inspired by you modeling the jacket so I could actually see how elegant yet badass it looks on a person. Also, the undeniable classic aviator look, especially since many people have probably watched Masters of the Air by now. I decided to get a Rough Wear 23380 in Russet, size 38 Regular, as 38 is my chest measurement and BK recommended that I order according to my chest size as long as I'm ok with it being slightly less comfortable than sizing up. I am so happy I did, it looks so sharp! But it's not uncomfortable at all, it's even less restrictive than a fitted motorcycle jacket. I am really happy with it and would advise anyone who likes the A-2 style to invest in Bill Kelso or another high-end repro maker, yes they are very expensive but you will be so much happier with the quality and fit as opposed to cheaper options, and you'll want to love it considering these jackets will literally last 2+ lifetimes. Some original A-2s are still worn today and if you get a high-end repro yours will last just as long.
Thank you, appreciated. It barely scratched the surface, I was just hoping to raise people's interest in these jackets with this high level introduction.
Just found your video, it’s really informative, I’m looking at buying one, I do us army 82nd airborne officer impression, so want to get the best one possible, I’m about a 52” chest, this has been a massive help. Thank you.👍👍
Excellent video. I collect repro and modern A-2s/G-1s and have passed down one c. 43 flightjacket horsehide A-2 that was too small to my daughter, who now is the coolest kid in school. Even the one’s that are a little big look great with a hoody underneath when it’s cold out. It’s important to remember that these are blouson-type jackets that will ride higher, which is actually practical. I occasionally use mine when motorcycling
Fascinating stuff. Seeing as authentic A2's cost four figure sums, I can't afford them haha, but I appreciate the quality. And appreciate these videos regarding them (I've seen your other one mate). 👍
Wonderful video on the basics of the A-2. It is such a beautiful jacket that was not only worn by the bomber boys, but also Troop Carrier and Glider pilots as well, although not as common.
Thanks for making this video! I am starting to get into the flight jacket hobby & just got my first A2 jacket! I look forward to your future vidoes about the different A2 contracts ;)
I got mine in 1988 ok it’s a cooper first Bach . Flew with it on my first solo ,camped in , ,party’s funerals drove my rover all over uk Europe . Now I’m 62. Fits like a glove no space tummy popping breath in to zip up and t-shirt on only.i can’t sell it to many memories and it’s still in great condition 😊
Really fantastic video! I love the period music. Like you, I LOVE everything Aviation related and am a huge clothing enthusiast too. Your modeling of BK A-2 jackets has encouraged me to want to buy one because I've never seen A-2s by other brands fit in a way I like. I only wear high rise pants like they did in the 40s so I think an A-2 would work great.
@@ReflectedSimulations I'm thinking of the Rough Wear 27752 because I like the tailored military uniform fit that you have and the stiff collar. Also I prefer the seal brown and olive stitching. While we're at it, would you mind helping me with BK fit? I see you have size 42. I have a 38" chest measurement and I'm 5'9", roughly 166 pounds. I want mine to fit the way yours do. Do you have any ideas about which size I should get?
@@SorenRoeser-jk9ip nice, you can never go wrong with a RoughWear :) I would say size 40 regular, but I'd shoot BK a mail, they know their patterns much better, and can recommend the best size.
@@ReflectedSimulations For sure, I'll definitely get a hold of them before buying. But regardless, I really appreciate your help, and like I said I think your video's fantastic!
Dammit. Always wanted one of these but never knew much about them. Recently been watching HBO's Master's of the Air and since finding this video, I want one again.
You may want to check out Eastman Leather as well... they outfitted the actors with those jackets and on their site actually show the individual models worn by each key actor.
"30 Seconds Over Tokyo" (1944) is a nice movie to observe genuine pilot jackets and the style pilots are wearing them (not to long, just above the ass).
Very well done. Big A2 fan here, I have 2, one in cow all black including the knits and lining and one in horsehide. Your jackets are nice and the fits are spot on..
I have an original Irwin Flying Jacket made in England to my measurements and warm! -I love it! You can't beat a real flying jacket and poorly done reproductions are easy to see. Thanks for this vid Reflected!
@@ReflectedSimulations hahaha! Same here! I spent hours in the tent making up my mind and missed a lot of the show. I'm glad I got it. Now it's one of my most beloved possessions along with a VF-1 HGU-33 helmet :)
I just bought a real mccoys flying tigers jacket with a stencil in the back and chest. I can’t wait for the ageing and character to come out. 10000% recommend the real mccoys. They’re expensive but so worth it.
If I had a Harley WLA42 motorcycle, i.e. from the Second World War, this outfit is perfect for this motorcycle. I have a very similar jacket, obviously based on the one you show. I'll try to find her address when I get home.
Very nice review. Just started my leather flight jacket collection with a Cockpit USA A-2. Super nice. Would love to be able to afford an Eastman or authentic WWII specimen one day. Cheers.
Hey ! I’ve been keeping an eye for cockpit usa or a 80’s/90’s averix ( I think it’s spelled like that ) but how would you say it fits true to size compared to your other jackets / sweatshirts or hoodies ??? Thanks in advance 😄
A2 jackets as you mentioned in the superb video or for that manner any other jacket from this era goes best with true high waisted trousers sitting on the natural waist and not with today's modern low rise crap and it's a great disaster for men we don't wear them anymore!
I got my A2 30+ years ago at the NWM show in Geneseo... I remember there were a bunch of old codgers talking smack, laughing at one guy with a blood chit (there were a bunch of repros like that), and the guy finally said, "F--- all you, I got mine from Chennault." I got old and fat, passed it on to my son.
Very interesting and helpful vid as always sir! I’m really enjoying your jacket vids 👍. A couple questions: 1: is there a difference (or preference) between 5star and AviLeather? 2: Do you use any care products on your jackets? (Mink oil, leather conditioner, exe) maybe a good idea for your next vid?
Hey, my personal preference between the 2 is AVI. They make better fitting jackets. But if you have a special size, Five stars are more customizeable. No care product is needed nor recommended. Maybe once a year if the leather gets really dry. Then I use Eastman’s Liquid Leather.
I just bought a Redskins leather bomber jacket that looks a lot like those in the video except it has like a metal plate near the chest that can be attached with Velcro. I bought it in a thrift shop and apparently it’s from the 80s and extremely heavy. I’m wondering what aero leather means but it’s mentioned there. Cool jacket, it’s older than me 😂
Great video, and appreciate the many angles and shots of you wearing both jackets with both contemporary and historic clothes. Can I ask what size you normally wear? Height, weight? Thanks again!
As someone who doesn't have a very big budget for a jacket, how good are the Avi Leather repros? I'm aware that for the sake of price I'd probably be losing out on historical accuracy as compared to some of the other ones you showed like Bill Kelso, but since I'm not a re-enactor and not as concerned with 100% accuracy as other people, I think I'd be happy with a jacket that had an authentic enough look and feel while still having good quality materials that can last for a very long time. Anyway, really great video and really thorough, and now that I'm in the market to buy a jacket I'm really happy to find a video this in-depth about it!
@@ReflectedSimulations About vintage garments. I didn't think I'd be interested in this, but the way you presented it, I'd love to watch more. For example, the jacket of the Navy Aviators.
This is a great video. Been dying to get my own A2 for years and I'm actually about to get this month. Im very hesitant between Bill Kelso and Eastman. I've heard the BK's aren't as precise as ELC concerning the reproduction. I don't know... Also ELC has more expensive prices...
BK is just as, if not more accurate as Eastman. You can’t go wrong with either. I prefer BK because they got the colors right and the knits are better quality too. But I had an Eastman and loved it too.
Wow you have nailed the look perfectly, great fitting A-2’s, I have had quite a few A2’s over the years. I currently have an Eastman Star Sportswear contract. Where did you get those trousers? They are spot on!
Thanks! I used to have an ELC Star too, great jacket. But I had to pass it on as it was a little snug. I got the pants from sofmilitary, great repro for an affordable price
did you know that indiana jones' jacket was based off of the a-2? the only difference is he removed the cuffs and elasticated hem for increased range of motion
As a mainly spitfire driver, I thought I'd check the RAF sheepskin jacket, and well RAF museum got them for £1000+ that's the same as a brunner Force feedback stick
@ReflectedSimulations thanks indeed, that's within might splurge on myself some day budget! That said the A2 looks more like a jacket you can use about town without too many strange looks. The RAF one will look out if place unless you're leaning on a Hurricane or Spitfire.
Great video, thank you so much! I love the rough wear 27752 and how it fits you, I am 6'2, 165lbs do you think I should go for the 42 or would it be too short on the sleeves?
Excellent review! And very cool pants with the size 42 jacket👌 which one do you prefer yourself, the size 40 tall or 42? I’m 6’2 but about 8lbs lighter than you and same chest size, so very lean😅 so I’m considering a size 40 tall
@@Pablosan7 thanks! Not sure. If I want to wear it with jeans and a t shirt I prefer the 40Long. But if I want to wear a sweater underneath and maybe a scarf, the 42Long is more comfortable.
Great video 👏🏻 However, why do Eastman in particular fail to get the collars right ? They stick out like wings. Also, fee jackets get the drape right. Why ? Lastly, as soon as you go custom measurements, you no longer have a truly authentic jacket, just a nice hommage.
Custom means adding 0.5 or 1 inch to the jacket. There was easily that much difference between wartime jackets due to mass production. Of course, you can go for stock measurements, but if you pay this much for a jacket, you want it to fit right.
Hello sir, A Question because of the sizing. I want to purchase a G1 M422a Navy Jacket from Bill Kelso. Iam 174 cm in height and 75 kg in weight. My Chest circumference is 41 inch. Which size would you recommend me ? I don’t want the jacket to tight. Thank you very much Sir! Regards Quentin
Very nicely done video ❤. I must say that you look good on those A2, especially the 23380 one, in considering to buy one of those from Fivestarleather, I know it’s not the best quality but it’s still good quality, especially for the price, on their website they only have a brandy colour for this one so I’ll have to buy a custom one which includes also custom colours, may I ask you what colours has your 23380? Not only the leather but the sleeves and the other cloth part at the waist (sorry I don’t know the specific world I’m Italian) Since I want mine to have those colours on. Many Thanks
Thank you! I think color is something that very few repro makers get right. Mine is a 'russet brown' by Bill Kelso. Fivestar jackets are great value for the money, but based on photos I've seen, their color is always a bit off. Too reddish, strange hue. For the same price range I'd much rather recommend AVI Leather.
@@ReflectedSimulations I’ve checked Avi leather but from what I can see they only have the Bronco model and don’t make tailor made A2, they are in Europe tho, so that’s a good thing for me, I would preferred a 23380 because it has in my opinion a more snug look
The shirt is an Eastman pink, and the pants are pinks from SOF Military. I love them. But now I got a pair of OD pants from them and those are terrible. So it’s a hit or miss.
Ich habe das tolle Video schon oft gesehen. Es ist fantastisch. Ich habe einige A2 Jacken. Die RW von Eastman, die Cable von Eastman und eine von Aero Leather. Es gibt A2-Jacken von Avi Leather und von Five Star Leather, welche sind besser?
Great video, very informative however I am surprised that you recommended the five star jacket. The leather quality among other things about this jacket is so horribly made..
Very interesting and helpfull video.I want to buy my first A2. I'm tall and not fat,but i don't have strong muscles,so my question is: between these 3 contracts which do you suggest me for my body? Dubow 20960 in mid brown horsehide leather,Rough Wear 27752 in brown horsehide leather,Star Sportwear 28557 in brown horsehide leather? Thanks and sorry for my bad english.
@@ReflectedSimulations Thanks and the other two? I don't really know which choose...I have an Avirex but as you said it is oversized, not based on a particular contract and in lambskin leather.
I'm considering to buy seal brown A2 from Bill Kelso. I guess your one is size 42R. Would you mind sharing the details (shoulder, P2P chest, back length and arm length) of your jacket size ? I'm sure it helps me to decide the right size for me before I contact with Bill Kelso.
Hello, Reflected, I'm thinking of buying the shorter version and am wondering what is the measure of the back in inches or cm (not including collar) of yor 42, that fits you so good? Im rather skinny and in the longer version of this jacket I look unnatural (big upper body, skinny legs). Would love to have one like you by almost any brand and look like pilots from "Thirty Seconds over Tokyo"... Very informative/interesting video. Thank you! Greetings, Germany.
Both jackets are super nice, I'm also looking for an A2 from eastman Leather, may i ask what size chest you have?,and your length?? Im inbetween a 4p and a 42 i guess..I'm 186cm and a chest of 101cm (I'm slim and a bit tall😂) Thanks in advance 👌
@@ReflectedSimulations I'm thinking about the 42R rough wear 27752 ,it has a higher sleeve and has a classic trim,or the Weber 1402-p also a 42R,it also has high armholes and a slender body,both from Bill Keslo. I'd did some research and with my length and weight I think these will fit me best.. Thanks again for your info 👍👍
@@ReflectedSimulations I'd just emailed them with my correct sizes, hopefully I will hear something back from them. Thanks in advance (again) for your feedback 👌
Hello Sir, I have a question because of the sizing. I Would like to purchase a G1 M422a Navy Jacket from Bill Kelso. Iam 174 cm in height an 75 kg in weight, my Chest circumference is 41 inch. Which size would you recommend? I don’t want the jacket be too tight. Thank you very much! Regards Quentin
@@ReflectedSimulations thank you very much for that ! & also idk if you have any suggestions , I’m thinking for my first one buying a used avirex 87-88 bomber jacket , but I notice a lot are in Japan , would you say it’s a good choice for first jacket ?? & the reason why one of those due to some having the painting on the back of the jacket( which I think are pretty neat!)
@@ReflectedSimulations that is true ! You have a point. The issue is my budget that’s why I asked , sorry should have mentioned that before asking . But for me being in a budget for the rest of the year and I wanted one for fall of this year you think it’s a decent move going for one of those ?? Sorry for all the questions my friend it’s just you have more knowledge in this field 😄
Does anybody know of any brands that do paintings like on some other jackets I’ve seen dedicated to different teams of ww2 aviation on the back of the jackets ??
Hi, I'd like to buy an Eastman A2 but I'm between sizes. The 42 is a bit to wide and the 40 is slightly to slim (it's a bit difficult to put on). I've asked 2 persons working in that shop. One says I should go for the 42 and the other says the 40. Should I buy the 40 and hope it gets wider with time?
@@Alphamaan i’m 6’0 and 165lbs, 40 chest, and I tried on both the 40 and 42. The 40 was too tight for me. But the 42 may be too long for you. Hard choice. Don’t they still have their exchange policy? Why not order both and send back the one that doesn’t fit for a refund? You can ask them if this is possible, I did it once 4 years ago.
@@ReflectedSimulations I went to a shop that sells Eastman. There I tried the 40 and the 42, one felt big and the other slightly slim. My question was if I should choose the 40 and hope it will get larger with time, or if I should go for the 42 even if it's a bit too wide.
@@Alphamaan ah sorry, I missed that part. Jackets do stretch over time, but don't bank on it. Large jackets don't get smaller. What were you wearing? If just a T-shirt, get the 42 so you can layer under it. If a sweater, then the 40 will work well with a T-shirt underneath, A-2s tend to feel slightly slim with a sweater on (unless they are huge). Where did it feel slim? Shoulders? Arm holes? Back? Belly? Also you said the 42 felt big, and the 40 SLIGHTLY slim - so it sounds like the 40 is closer to the right fit. Did they both feel comfortable?
Simulated flight jackets to wear while flying simulated warplanes. LOL. There are nice but a little too plain as is. Can you get acceptable patches for them similar to the ones Obama and Trump had on theirs in the video? Or maybe someone could make some kind of flight sim or flight sim server patch or a patch which indicates they achieved a certain grade or level in your Speeds and Angels Campaign. Something along those lines.
There are beautiful patches available, but make sure you choose the right ones. Accurate WW2 patches for WW2 jackets, and correct placement too. Definitely not like those on the 2 POTUS jackets :) It's best if you research about a given unit or pilot and try to replicate a specific jacket.
Months and months after this video convinced me to buy a Bill Kelso A-2... and I finally have it!
I was inspired by you modeling the jacket so I could actually see how elegant yet badass it looks on a person. Also, the undeniable classic aviator look, especially since many people have probably watched Masters of the Air by now.
I decided to get a Rough Wear 23380 in Russet, size 38 Regular, as 38 is my chest measurement and BK recommended that I order according to my chest size as long as I'm ok with it being slightly less comfortable than sizing up. I am so happy I did, it looks so sharp! But it's not uncomfortable at all, it's even less restrictive than a fitted motorcycle jacket. I am really happy with it and would advise anyone who likes the A-2 style to invest in Bill Kelso or another high-end repro maker, yes they are very expensive but you will be so much happier with the quality and fit as opposed to cheaper options, and you'll want to love it considering these jackets will literally last 2+ lifetimes. Some original A-2s are still worn today and if you get a high-end repro yours will last just as long.
Awesome, congratulations! I’m glad you love your new jacket and that it fits well
As a historical reenactor I can appreciate this video, great guide!
Thank you, appreciated. It barely scratched the surface, I was just hoping to raise people's interest in these jackets with this high level introduction.
You can tell by the design of the A-2 that people in the 40's used to be less overweight.
Especially when the young men of the 1940’s were kids of the Great Depression in 1929 😢
And many were young 20’s year olds in the service.
I for one, am pleased that you are a ‘Jacket nerd’ because now we have this great video on the A-2. Thank you.
Just found your video, it’s really informative, I’m looking at buying one, I do us army 82nd airborne officer impression, so want to get the best one possible, I’m about a 52” chest, this has been a massive help. Thank you.👍👍
the finest jacket ever created... i really love the A2, thank you so so much for this video!!!
😂
Lol wait until you hear about the A1 or the God of flight jackets......the ANJ-3 😂
Excellent video. I collect repro and modern A-2s/G-1s and have passed down one c. 43 flightjacket horsehide A-2 that was too small to my daughter, who now is the coolest kid in school. Even the one’s that are a little big look great with a hoody underneath when it’s cold out. It’s important to remember that these are blouson-type jackets that will ride higher, which is actually practical. I occasionally use mine when motorcycling
Hey pal, could you maybe help me find a good A2? Been looking for a while but can't find good repro's
Fascinating stuff. Seeing as authentic A2's cost four figure sums, I can't afford them haha, but I appreciate the quality. And appreciate these videos regarding them (I've seen your other one mate). 👍
Wonderful video on the basics of the A-2. It is such a beautiful jacket that was not only worn by the bomber boys, but also Troop Carrier and Glider pilots as well, although not as common.
Thanks a lot! Yes, even paratrooper officers were issued one.
I have a Perry A2 repro in Seal Brown Horsehide from Avi Leather. Really love it. Really nice. Thanks for the video!
AVI jackets are great!
Thanks for making this video! I am starting to get into the flight jacket hobby & just got my first A2 jacket! I look forward to your future vidoes about the different A2 contracts ;)
I got mine in 1988 ok it’s a cooper first Bach . Flew with it on my first solo ,camped in , ,party’s funerals drove my rover all over uk Europe . Now I’m 62. Fits like a glove no space tummy popping breath in to zip up and t-shirt on only.i can’t sell it to many memories and it’s still in great condition 😊
Really fantastic video! I love the period music. Like you, I LOVE everything Aviation related and am a huge clothing enthusiast too. Your modeling of BK A-2 jackets has encouraged me to want to buy one because I've never seen A-2s by other brands fit in a way I like. I only wear high rise pants like they did in the 40s so I think an A-2 would work great.
Awesome, which contract do you have in mind?
@@ReflectedSimulations I'm thinking of the Rough Wear 27752 because I like the tailored military uniform fit that you have and the stiff collar. Also I prefer the seal brown and olive stitching.
While we're at it, would you mind helping me with BK fit? I see you have size 42. I have a 38" chest measurement and I'm 5'9", roughly 166 pounds. I want mine to fit the way yours do. Do you have any ideas about which size I should get?
@@SorenRoeser-jk9ip nice, you can never go wrong with a RoughWear :) I would say size 40 regular, but I'd shoot BK a mail, they know their patterns much better, and can recommend the best size.
@@ReflectedSimulations For sure, I'll definitely get a hold of them before buying. But regardless, I really appreciate your help, and like I said I think your video's fantastic!
@@SorenRoeser-jk9ip Thank you!
Dammit. Always wanted one of these but never knew much about them. Recently been watching HBO's Master's of the Air and since finding this video, I want one again.
You may want to check out Eastman Leather as well... they outfitted the actors with those jackets and on their site actually show the individual models worn by each key actor.
"30 Seconds Over Tokyo" (1944) is a nice movie to observe genuine pilot jackets and the style pilots are wearing them (not to long, just above the ass).
Very well done. Big A2 fan here, I have 2, one in cow all black including the knits and lining and one in horsehide. Your jackets are nice and the fits are spot on..
thank you!
You made a truly terrific video, thanks.
Thank you!
Wow....perfect video. Just nailed it. Everything I wanted to learn. Thanks!
7:02 this is it. Damn you look good bro in that jacket.
Thanks man!
I have an original Irwin Flying Jacket made in England to my measurements and warm! -I love it! You can't beat a real flying jacket and poorly done reproductions are easy to see. Thanks for this vid Reflected!
I love Irvins, they’re so warm!
Awesome "primer" on the A-2! Many thanks!
I got mine from Eastman at a Duxford airshow a few years ago and I don't regret :)
I spent hours in that ELC tent haha
@@ReflectedSimulations hahaha! Same here! I spent hours in the tent making up my mind and missed a lot of the show. I'm glad I got it. Now it's one of my most beloved possessions along with a VF-1 HGU-33 helmet :)
Great vid and really loved it! Tempted to get one myself. That said I think the light weight raf flying jacket is a nicer cut personally.
Much warmer though
@@ReflectedSimulations true dat! You definitely should do more of this sort of thing by the way.
Fantastic video, very informative. Beautiful jackets!
Thanks!
Nice job, Greg!
I just bought a real mccoys flying tigers jacket with a stencil in the back and chest. I can’t wait for the ageing and character to come out. 10000% recommend the real mccoys. They’re expensive but so worth it.
I’ve never seen an RMC in person but I’ve heard they’re really good
If I had a Harley WLA42 motorcycle, i.e. from the Second World War, this outfit is perfect for this motorcycle.
I have a very similar jacket, obviously based on the one you show. I'll try to find her address when I get home.
A great watch Greg, different to VLJ😀
I Like the Dark Chocolate One.
I have an Avirex a2 …..I bought an Xl …..it’s got the Memphis belle hand painted on the back… the back is just a lil shorter …..but I still love it 😂
Love this!!!
Great tutorial very informative thank you 👍🏻
reflected my mate, what a legend.^^
Very nice review. Just started my leather flight jacket collection with a Cockpit USA A-2. Super nice. Would love to be able to afford an Eastman or authentic WWII specimen one day. Cheers.
Hey ! I’ve been keeping an eye for cockpit usa or a 80’s/90’s averix ( I think it’s spelled like that ) but how would you say it fits true to size compared to your other jackets / sweatshirts or hoodies ??? Thanks in advance 😄
Oh mate love your video ❤
Thanks!
I've so far managed to resist buying a Luftwaffe pilots jacket, but it's only a matter of time before I weaken
They’re so stylish those French cyclist jackets that Luftwaffe pilots wore. But they’re also really short!
2 words. Aero leather❤
A2 jackets as you mentioned in the superb video or for that manner any other jacket from this era goes best with true high waisted trousers sitting on the natural waist and not with today's modern low rise crap and it's a great disaster for men we don't wear them anymore!
Love the jacket definitely will be adding it to my wardrobe, by the way what’s the name of the song in the background, thanks
Make more of these videos, more in depth please.
I got my A2 30+ years ago at the NWM show in Geneseo... I remember there were a bunch of old codgers talking smack, laughing at one guy with a blood chit (there were a bunch of repros like that), and the guy finally said, "F--- all you, I got mine from Chennault."
I got old and fat, passed it on to my son.
Haha, brilliant story! :D
Very interesting and helpful vid as always sir! I’m really enjoying your jacket vids 👍. A couple questions:
1: is there a difference (or preference) between 5star and AviLeather?
2: Do you use any care products on your jackets? (Mink oil, leather conditioner, exe) maybe a good idea for your next vid?
Hey, my personal preference between the 2 is AVI. They make better fitting jackets. But if you have a special size, Five stars are more customizeable. No care product is needed nor recommended. Maybe once a year if the leather gets really dry. Then I use Eastman’s Liquid Leather.
As iconic as it is, I just can't get into the elastics, on any type of jacket really. Great video tho
I just bought a Redskins leather bomber jacket that looks a lot like those in the video except it has like a metal plate near the chest that can be attached with Velcro. I bought it in a thrift shop and apparently it’s from the 80s and extremely heavy. I’m wondering what aero leather means but it’s mentioned there. Cool jacket, it’s older than me 😂
Great video, and appreciate the many angles and shots of you wearing both jackets with both contemporary and historic clothes. Can I ask what size you normally wear? Height, weight? Thanks again!
I'm 185cm tall, 75kg, and have a 40" chest, size 32 jeans
Thank you🙏🏼
As someone who doesn't have a very big budget for a jacket, how good are the Avi Leather repros? I'm aware that for the sake of price I'd probably be losing out on historical accuracy as compared to some of the other ones you showed like Bill Kelso, but since I'm not a re-enactor and not as concerned with 100% accuracy as other people, I think I'd be happy with a jacket that had an authentic enough look and feel while still having good quality materials that can last for a very long time.
Anyway, really great video and really thorough, and now that I'm in the market to buy a jacket I'm really happy to find a video this in-depth about it!
They're the best bang for the buck, perfect for what you just described.
@@ReflectedSimulationsAh, great! Thanks a ton for the reply, I appreciate it!
This is a really interesting video. Even for me, with no understanding for the period clothing. Don't you consider making a playlist?
What kind of playlist do you mean?
@@ReflectedSimulations About vintage garments. I didn't think I'd be interested in this, but the way you presented it, I'd love to watch more. For example, the jacket of the Navy Aviators.
This is a great video. Been dying to get my own A2 for years and I'm actually about to get this month. Im very hesitant between Bill Kelso and Eastman. I've heard the BK's aren't as precise as ELC concerning the reproduction. I don't know... Also ELC has more expensive prices...
BK is just as, if not more accurate as Eastman. You can’t go wrong with either. I prefer BK because they got the colors right and the knits are better quality too. But I had an Eastman and loved it too.
Wow you have nailed the look perfectly, great fitting A-2’s, I have had quite a few A2’s over the years. I currently have an Eastman Star Sportswear contract. Where did you get those trousers? They are spot on!
Thanks! I used to have an ELC Star too, great jacket. But I had to pass it on as it was a little snug. I got the pants from sofmilitary, great repro for an affordable price
I have got an ELC roughwear 27752 too and I do prefer the fit of that one
did you know that indiana jones' jacket was based off of the a-2? the only difference is he removed the cuffs and elasticated hem for increased range of motion
Grate Video
As a mainly spitfire driver, I thought I'd check the RAF sheepskin jacket, and well RAF museum got them for £1000+ that's the same as a brunner Force feedback stick
And those are very inaccurate too. I have an Irvin made by What Price Glory, best bang for the buck, highly recommended.
onlinemilitaria.net/products/1607-uk-raf-sheepskin-flying-jacket-improved-run/
This is the one. They run quite large, I’m a size 40/42 and wear a 38 of this
@ReflectedSimulations thanks indeed, that's within might splurge on myself some day budget! That said the A2 looks more like a jacket you can use about town without too many strange looks. The RAF one will look out if place unless you're leaning on a Hurricane or Spitfire.
Great video, thank you so much! I love the rough wear 27752 and how it fits you, I am 6'2, 165lbs do you think I should go for the 42 or would it be too short on the sleeves?
Thanks! The regular 42 would be definitely too short. I'd go for a 42 long, with an extra inch added to the back and sleeves.
@@ReflectedSimulations Great thanks so much!
@@ReflectedSimulations Also just wondering, what are your thoughts on BuzzRicksons A-2 Rough wear model?
@@Oscar_Narbel never seen one in person, apparently they’re great quality but I think the color and finish are wrong.
Black Rock leather conditioner
Excellent review! And very cool pants with the size 42 jacket👌 which one do you prefer yourself, the size 40 tall or 42?
I’m 6’2 but about 8lbs lighter than you and same chest size, so very lean😅 so I’m considering a size 40 tall
@@Pablosan7 thanks! Not sure. If I want to wear it with jeans and a t shirt I prefer the 40Long. But if I want to wear a sweater underneath and maybe a scarf, the 42Long is more comfortable.
@@ReflectedSimulations thanks, makes good sense to get both sizes then 😊
VLJ brought me here! ;-)
Which is your size?
Where can I get pants like those or similar with that ww2 era style?
I’ve even slept in mine as well as long sweaty walks( with deodorant of course 🤣). Broke in just great. Eastman is my go to brand.
Best way to break them in :)
That Bill Kelso site is amazing. I'm partial to the M422. Can their Maverick flyer jacket be pulled off in public though or too much? haha
Rule of thumb is, the more patches the harder it is to pull off. An unpatched M422a looks amazing, check out my other review
Great video 👏🏻 However, why do Eastman in particular fail to get the collars right ? They stick out like wings. Also, fee jackets get the drape right. Why ? Lastly, as soon as you go custom measurements, you no longer have a truly authentic jacket, just a nice hommage.
Custom means adding 0.5 or 1 inch to the jacket. There was easily that much difference between wartime jackets due to mass production. Of course, you can go for stock measurements, but if you pay this much for a jacket, you want it to fit right.
Hello sir,
A Question because of the sizing.
I want to purchase a G1 M422a Navy Jacket from Bill Kelso. Iam 174 cm in height and 75 kg in weight. My Chest circumference is 41 inch. Which size would you recommend me ? I don’t want the jacket to tight.
Thank you very much Sir!
Regards
Quentin
Eastman vs Goodwear 🤔 was going to order one from Eastman now that I discovered Goodwear from this vid there are too many options 😂
Keep in mind you get your Eastman right away but you’ll need to wait over a year for a Goodwear
@ReflectedSimulations oh ok..good information. I don't think a person can go wrong either way
@@michaeledwards7668 agreed!
Very nicely done video ❤. I must say that you look good on those A2, especially the 23380 one, in considering to buy one of those from Fivestarleather, I know it’s not the best quality but it’s still good quality, especially for the price, on their website they only have a brandy colour for this one so I’ll have to buy a custom one which includes also custom colours, may I ask you what colours has your 23380? Not only the leather but the sleeves and the other cloth part at the waist (sorry I don’t know the specific world I’m Italian) Since I want mine to have those colours on. Many Thanks
Thank you! I think color is something that very few repro makers get right. Mine is a 'russet brown' by Bill Kelso. Fivestar jackets are great value for the money, but based on photos I've seen, their color is always a bit off. Too reddish, strange hue. For the same price range I'd much rather recommend AVI Leather.
@@ReflectedSimulations thank you very much!
@@ReflectedSimulations I’ve checked Avi leather but from what I can see they only have the Bronco model and don’t make tailor made A2, they are in Europe tho, so that’s a good thing for me, I would preferred a 23380 because it has in my opinion a more snug look
@@sargavius4884 snuggness is about picking the right size. And in ww2 they didn’t make tailor made jackets either ;)
@@ReflectedSimulations that’s right! I didn’t took that in consideration, well thanks for all and keep it up with the videos mate 👍
Are the pants and shirt you wear both M37? Do you have a recommendation where to get affordable repos of those? THX!
The shirt is an Eastman pink, and the pants are pinks from SOF Military. I love them. But now I got a pair of OD pants from them and those are terrible. So it’s a hit or miss.
@@ReflectedSimulations Thx man! I'll check it out. Btw, I ordered a fivestar A2 after watching your video and I am very happy with ithe quality😊
Ich habe das tolle Video schon oft gesehen. Es ist fantastisch. Ich habe einige A2 Jacken. Die RW von Eastman, die Cable von Eastman und eine von Aero Leather.
Es gibt A2-Jacken von Avi Leather und von Five Star Leather, welche sind besser?
Thanks! An AVI or a 5Star will not be as good as an Eastman. But out of the 2, AVI is miles better in my opinion.
@@ReflectedSimulationsThank you for the Info. Have a nice Weekend and a lot of with the A2-Flightjackets.
🤘🍺
Have you ever tried a Pop's Leather A-2? And if so, what do you think?
Sorry, never heard of it
@@ReflectedSimulations
It was a little unexpected tbh, anyway, great video
Great video, very informative however I am surprised that you recommended the five star jacket. The leather quality among other things about this jacket is so horribly made..
I didn’t recommend it. I mentioned it as an option. Personally I’d much rather get an AVI in that price range.
Thank you for this. What about the cap? Are they made?
It’s a cheap repro crusher cap. One day I’d love to invest in a more accurate one.
Very interesting and helpfull video.I want to buy my first A2. I'm tall and not fat,but i don't have strong muscles,so my question is: between these 3 contracts which do you suggest me for my body? Dubow 20960 in mid brown horsehide leather,Rough Wear 27752 in brown horsehide leather,Star Sportwear 28557 in brown horsehide leather? Thanks and sorry for my bad english.
That depends on what repro maker you choose. The Star is pretty trim but check the measurements, you may need a long version.
@@ReflectedSimulations Thanks and the other two? I don't really know which choose...I have an Avirex but as you said it is oversized, not based on a particular contract and in lambskin leather.
@@Marco-hd7kw the dubows are pretty roomy, and the roughwears have a wider back, more squared and athletic look.
@@ReflectedSimulations And the Monarch 23378? Thanks
were they always this slim in the sleeves
Yes
I'm considering to buy seal brown A2 from Bill Kelso. I guess your one is size 42R. Would you mind sharing the details (shoulder, P2P chest, back length and arm length) of your jacket size ? I'm sure it helps me to decide the right size for me before I contact with Bill Kelso.
My russet jacket is 22 p2p, 18 shoulders 25.5 back and arms. It’s a custom size. The seal one is a stock 42Long.
@@ReflectedSimulations Thanks a lot!!
An issue A2 was less than 10 bucks? Today they're around $600.
"The times they are a' changing"
Hello, Reflected, I'm thinking of buying the shorter version and am wondering what is the measure of the back in inches or cm (not including collar) of yor 42, that fits you so good? Im rather skinny and in the longer version of this jacket I look unnatural (big upper body, skinny legs). Would love to have one like you by almost any brand and look like pilots from "Thirty Seconds over Tokyo"... Very informative/interesting video. Thank you! Greetings, Germany.
Both jackets have a 25.5 inch back length
@@ReflectedSimulations Thank you for the quick answer. :)
@@TheBlues088 note how the darker jacket looks and feels longer despite the same length, it’s because it’s also roomier. Everything is connected :)
Yeah, what you said about too much leather was so right.
Hi. Which repro do you recommend for a nice and short one? I wear my trousers at the first rib.
All of them are rather short unless you ask for a long version.
Hello, I wanted to ask if yours was Dark Seal Liberty Horsehide, Seal Liberty Horsehide or Shiniki?
The darker is just seal. The dark seal would be even darker. The lighter is russet. Both are liberty horsehide
Both jackets are super nice, I'm also looking for an A2 from eastman Leather, may i ask what size chest you have?,and your length??
Im inbetween a 4p and a 42 i guess..I'm 186cm and a chest of 101cm
(I'm slim and a bit tall😂)
Thanks in advance 👌
Thanks! I’m 184 cm, same chest. You either need a 42 or a 40 Long, depending on the contract
@@ReflectedSimulations I'm thinking about the 42R rough wear 27752 ,it has a higher sleeve and has a classic trim,or the Weber 1402-p also a 42R,it also has high armholes and a slender body,both from Bill Keslo.
I'd did some research and with my length and weight I think these will fit me best..
Thanks again for your info 👍👍
@@renniesontop my darker jacket in the video is a 27752 from Kelso, 42L with 25.5 inch back and sleeves. If you’re even taller the R will be too short
@@ReflectedSimulations I'd just emailed them with my correct sizes, hopefully I will hear something back from them.
Thanks in advance (again) for your feedback 👌
Hello Sir,
I have a question because of the sizing.
I Would like to purchase a G1 M422a Navy Jacket from Bill Kelso. Iam 174 cm in height an 75 kg in weight, my Chest circumference is 41 inch.
Which size would you recommend? I don’t want the jacket be too tight.
Thank you very much!
Regards
Quentin
Hi, I never had a BK M422a, I’m not familiar with their sizing. you better send them a mail.
And what with a a2 ?
Thank you so much sir!@@ReflectedSimulations
@@quentinscheich3413 I suppose a 42 would fit you but it also depends on the contract. If you contact BK they can give you expert advice
By any chance do you know where I can see the list of the diff brands that supplied jacket ?? Or anyone know ? Thanks in advance😄
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-2_jacket
also check this out too:
www.acmedepot.com/a2jacket/a2detail2.html
@@ReflectedSimulations thank you very much for that ! & also idk if you have any suggestions ,
I’m thinking for my first one buying a used avirex 87-88 bomber jacket , but I notice a lot are in Japan , would you say it’s a good choice for first jacket ?? & the reason why one of those due to some having the painting on the back of the jacket( which I think are pretty neat!)
@@SlasherGuyy1 it’s better to buy a mora accurate repro, say an AVI, then have it painted by someone
@@ReflectedSimulations that is true ! You have a point. The issue is my budget that’s why I asked , sorry should have mentioned that before asking . But for me being in a budget for the rest of the year and I wanted one for fall of this year you think it’s a decent move going for one of those ?? Sorry for all the questions my friend it’s just you have more knowledge in this field 😄
Does anybody know of any brands that do paintings like on some other jackets I’ve seen dedicated to different teams of ww2 aviation on the back of the jackets ??
Try custom artists like Vera Voulik on facebook
@@ReflectedSimulations I just checked him out , thank you ! Do you know of any others in Europe that do this or USA ? Thanks in advance
Hi, I'd like to buy an Eastman A2 but I'm between sizes. The 42 is a bit to wide and the 40 is slightly to slim (it's a bit difficult to put on). I've asked 2 persons working in that shop. One says I should go for the 42 and the other says the 40. Should I buy the 40 and hope it gets wider with time?
Hard to tell, it would be best to try. I'm also between 40 and 42. What is your height / weight/ chest size, and which contract are you going for?
@@ReflectedSimulations Thank you for replying. I want to buy the Eastman TYPE A-2 RW 27752. My chest is 39", I'm 5'9" and 170 lbs.
@@Alphamaan i’m 6’0 and 165lbs, 40 chest, and I tried on both the 40 and 42. The 40 was too tight for me. But the 42 may be too long for you. Hard choice. Don’t they still have their exchange policy? Why not order both and send back the one that doesn’t fit for a refund? You can ask them if this is possible, I did it once 4 years ago.
@@ReflectedSimulations I went to a shop that sells Eastman. There I tried the 40 and the 42, one felt big and the other slightly slim. My question was if I should choose the 40 and hope it will get larger with time, or if I should go for the 42 even if it's a bit too wide.
@@Alphamaan ah sorry, I missed that part. Jackets do stretch over time, but don't bank on it. Large jackets don't get smaller. What were you wearing? If just a T-shirt, get the 42 so you can layer under it. If a sweater, then the 40 will work well with a T-shirt underneath, A-2s tend to feel slightly slim with a sweater on (unless they are huge).
Where did it feel slim? Shoulders? Arm holes? Back? Belly?
Also you said the 42 felt big, and the 40 SLIGHTLY slim - so it sounds like the 40 is closer to the right fit. Did they both feel comfortable?
Where did you buy your crush cap?
WPG I think but I’m not too happy with it, it’s a cheap repro
where did you get the hat from?
I think "What Price Glory" - but if I had spent a little more I would have gotten a much better replica
may i ask your height and weight bro
185cm/6 foot tall, and 165lbs/75kg
Simulated flight jackets to wear while flying simulated warplanes. LOL. There are nice but a little too plain as is. Can you get acceptable patches for them similar to the ones Obama and Trump had on theirs in the video? Or maybe someone could make some kind of flight sim or flight sim server patch or a patch which indicates they achieved a certain grade or level in your Speeds and Angels Campaign. Something along those lines.
There are beautiful patches available, but make sure you choose the right ones. Accurate WW2 patches for WW2 jackets, and correct placement too. Definitely not like those on the 2 POTUS jackets :) It's best if you research about a given unit or pilot and try to replicate a specific jacket.
Diamond Dave or nothing........BK is a overhyped stitch counter joke