Furitek brushless motor esc for SCX24 and mini crawlers - micro crawler best upgrade?
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- Furitek motor brushless system for scx24 and mini micro crawlers test and review mods and upgrades motor combo kit conversion.
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Definitely the type of review I like to hear and have been trying to tell people that CG is more important than modulation for these little crawlers
This is a good honest review, and that’s why I love your channel. Thanks for unbiased content. I’ve got a 24, loaded with brass, 4 wheel steer, and still rocking the stock motor. Not sure how all these people are burning them up. I put the Furitek lizard alone into it, and the stock brushed motor gives the smooth characteristics without the CG penalty, which is substantial in my opinion. Furitek stuff is good, don’t get me wrong, but $130 to make a $200 truck top heavy? No thanks. A new stock motor... $8. Keep up the good work man! Great content!
My scx24 motor died within 2 months of buying the truck. Only mods were brass weights in the stock wheels. Replaced it with the barrage motor and a year later still going strong
I just picked up a scx24 C10. Perfect explanation on why you should or shouldn’t run this upgrade!
These esc's work great with brushed motors. You get much better modulation than the stock speed control, without sacrificing the center of gravity.
That's the key mod then
Mine is not working right, amainhobbies even sent me another one and both are junk. The motor sputters and jerks.
@@toycoma98 did you switch the esc to brushed?
@@Rowdy216 Yes, i also tried all the firmware and they all are jerky. 2.6 doesn't even have drag brake. 2.3 it wont turn blue until i spin driveshaft, so 2.4 firmware is best but still jerks.
@@Rowdy216 Furitek got with Furitekusa and sent me a Iguana Pro (brushed only). I was wrong, their customer support is very good. I can trust Furitek brand, will look into other products from them.
You can easily get rid of that jump in speed with some tuning in the app. Especially with their newer updates in firmware. It can also run 3s easily for more wheel speed and will run lights as well. I can transition from super slow all the way to full speed with no jump in transition. Been running this setup for at least a year though. Pair it with a Mofo Ugky AF chassis and it’ll stop all that rolling. I’ve put in some work on it and Furitek is always updating and coming out with new stuff. Even better stuff coming VERY soon from them. I’ll have it on my channel as soon as it drops! Love the channel and glad to see you with some Furitek stuff!
Right on. Much appreciated. For a tuner, this is definitely the system since it has so much flexibility and headroom
@@RCReviewChannel totally agree! Thanks for the response! I like your honest opinion on it. That’s the reason your channel is honestly one of the few I actually watch all the time. Because I know you’re honest about stuff and VERY knowledgeable! I’ve learned a ton from you and really appreciate that. Like you said though this system alone isn’t going to transform a stock truck into an amazing crawler. It really needs to be paired with a highly modded truck for best results. Keep up the awesome vids 🤘
Hey man what are your setting to make it so smooth i would extremely appreciate it! im getting a 3s battery.
That’s all I run in mine thanks for all the good content helped me pick the right mini when I got started
Glad to help
i love these crawlers. i ve got 3 of them. i direct switch out the servo for a emax and a cheap 050 motor from ali and drive them. 1 scx24 i modified with lead in the wheels, hw1080esc clone, cr24 cut defender body and that thing crawls a little better in extreme positions, but the almost stock scx24 go where ever my moded one go.
thanks for your review
Great share there. Thank you.
Glad I found your channel, and watched this video. I just picked up a couple of these little guys, the C10 and JLU. I am planning on leaving the C10 relatively stock, and full mods on the JLU. The Furitek system was at the top of my list, but after watching your video I think I'm going to pass. You make some very good points, and the one about the CG sold me. Thank you.
Glad I could help! I don't just influence folks to buy, buy, buy. I try to give info to see if it's right for them.
Great video! Lots of moding steps, but all worth..
Thanks for the details! Subscribed! 👍🏁🔥
Brass wheels will really plant the truck to the rocks. I have them and it’s single handedly the best upgrade I’ve done.
I think some of your “cons” are easily worked around, moving some of the weight to a better low ati on for one, two I don’t think you can honestly compare the stock motor / esc to the furitek saying it’s the same slow speed and control on an actual corse. On a table with no resist sure. But the stock motor / esc absolutely can not turtle crawl without punching and letting off back and forth. Yes the stock location on a stronger brushed motor and a better esc may be the best LCG solution but I just don’t see how one can say the one month life spawn of a stock motor is better than this. Not to mention your suspension has no limiting strap on the front, but it does sound like some gear mesh is off on something
I have the same motor & metal gears but I’m using the original esc with the lizard with blue tooth & phone app to adjust pretty much everything. I’ve distributed the weight better & have front & rear lights. Mine is very modified with shock upgrades clearance links & a bunch of treal upgrades. It’s probably one of the heaviest moded ones I’ve seen. You are right on on your assessment. It’s slower & the overall performance is kind of weird everything definitely helped but that body in general is top heavy. It’s still super fun & it’s an awesome Rc but I think it’s kind of tall for its size which makes it less stable. If it was wider or you could space out the wheels for a wider stance that would help. It’s just funny when we buy a Rc for a little over 100$ & spend over 200$ plus & it still tips over pretty easy and goes slower. Its electronics are pretty trick for only a 24th scale vehicle. But this is the Rc that got me hooked so it’s still one of my favorites no matter. Good for rainy days or whenever you can’t take a larger RC.
Do you anything Else then the convertion Kit for the motor to run with the stock esc ? Like cable qnd stuff ?
Pro-Line is releasing 1/24 scale Hyrax tires. You can pre-order now. The only problem is they come pre mounted on wheels. Hopefully they will be coming out with just the tires.
I have this setup on my c10 but it’s highly modded that doesn’t have the same issue with CG.
What mods have you done to offset the higher cg? I am going brushless with my c10 but I would like to keep it planted still. How did you arrange your battery and receiver?
Hey you can replace the front body post mount with the esc box and just servo tape a magnet to the top for more foreward weight and adds room in the back and makes the body easier to open up all in one.
Took my C10 setup to the next level, I highly recommend the kit or even just the ESE with the stock motor is worth it.
that ESC is the value/effort king
Hi, I like your analysis. I came to the same conclusion as you, I was waiting to be sure of what I was thinking, and I'm glad I'm not the only one 👍. on my channel, I try to show that putting options everywhere and anyhow goes against performance. you really have to try and seek to achieve your goal, but the option is not always the solution. there are more simple and effective alternatives. Thank you for your videos 👍👍👍👍👍
Great and honest info👍
100 % agree. Motor shows chassis/suspension needs to play catch up
Patagonia tires, wheel weights, and mount the stock esc to the inside of the body with 2way tape to add direct body weight to counter the motors high cg. I installed on my deadbolt and none of my friends can out climb or out perform this setup.
thank you for the share.
I have the Iguana on Katana 1/18, the difference is like night and day. It runs so smooth but it is noticeably slower with full throttle. I also have Lizard ESC on C10 with stock motor, good enough for me.
oh man, I have so many FMS hardbody machines that could use this.
Holmes hobbies should get in this game a brushed version as well as brushless... was not impressed with the performance upgrade of this system although it would save burned out motors when you add all the brass
agree and agree
Nice video. Seems like this tires are too hard for this location. This brushless combo is amazing. But is very expensive for what it is. in my opinion.
Grate show amd knowledge..v& b speed in the house
That was some good info. Cool video Thanks!! Can you please tell me where do you find the toyota body at😁👍
I think the motor works just fine. I think people's expectations are not realistic. The great thing about the hobby is there are choices, and aftermarket companies that give us those options. The wizbang stuff you speak of appeals to some and not others and that's what is nice about the hobby. The reality is there's not many 24th scale comps, so it really comes down to users expectations. I have 3 scx24s 300.00 build , 500.00 build and a 800.00 build (minus the spectrum recivers and dx5r transmitter. Running a torque beast, komodo, and surpass motor all 3 with lizard and Tegu esc. The 500 build with the torque beast is by far the best crawler, however the komodo scx24 is the most fun to drive with 4ws, brushless set up and almost every option part. I always go to it go ease of use, fun, and maintenence free running. If there was a comp I would run the .50 torque beast with lizard esc, but reality is there are not those type of functions for most areas. So its really just users expectations. The 2 cell esc lizard is a great choice for a brushed set up, and being able to program crawl then punch to get over obstacles is huge for drivability in a crawler, amd foc is amazing for slow speed modulation.
Could you plz do a review on some carisma products I just ordered a coyote 2.1 and would love your thoughts
Proline is coming out with hyrax tires for 1/24!!!
Gotta target date on that?
Saw it on Harley designs episode 174 on Tuesday, start around the 8:15 mark where he talks about them being on an scx24 with a new proline body they are selling, he thinks the hyrax tires in 1.0 “are just around the corner”. RC Review and Harley designs are my go too if I want the best information in R/C’s! Thank you for all you do sir!
cool job! big like! 👍👍👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Moforc makes a chassis that’s 60$ and I will never go back to any other, called uglyAF. One incredible design. And if your adding a lot of weight to the truck down low you really don’t have to worry about the high cg
Using the fruited lizard was the way to go for me. Way smaller than the one you guys used
Yeah, that looks like the appropriate one!
Thanks ben thinking on how im going to mode my scx24 and now every things changed
Yes, and the most important tool is a good set of eyes or glasses. Cause everything is so small!
looks like u went out of ur way 2 make it top heavy. 2:50 looks like a battery was used as a base for the esc & esc receiver combo with another battery on top of that. i guess just quickly dropped in for testing purposes and easily revert back to stock, but definitely way more creative ways out there to mount all that stuff lower in the chassis
Considering the stock motors tendency to crap out quickly, you're gonna be looking at a motor replacement sooner or later anyways? It makes sense to replace it with a more reliable long.living motor.
i understand the appeal for a small and cheap crawler..
not everybody has the space to store 4 or 5 26 inch trucks
not my thing but i understand
good video thanks
yup, budget too. And those harsh winters where playing outside is not great.
Great review Francis, but honestly my c10 with max uogrades, oil filled shocks, Rc4wd wheels/tires, brass, high clearance links plus so much more and upgraded brushed setup would out perform that setup all day. Don’t need all that motor at all. More negatives then positives IMO. Love the 1/24 platform and it performs amazingly all day long. 🤙
Yup. You did it right!
Please make a review for RGT 136100 V3 Jimny. Thankyou
Hi, I ordered mine should arrive any day now :) can't wait! I also plan to run it on S3 did you perhaps try it on 3s? Would love to see video you running it on 3S video. PS Great video love it!
yes, we'll try
I found that using the iguana esc paired with the barrage motor just destroyed the brushless combo. It only set me back about $60. The only real benefit you get from the brushless system is you get to say your running a brushless system and get embarrassed that you spent that kind of money to make it crawl worst
I have both set-ups and for where I drive I live the brushed set-up a little more. The iguana makes any motor run amazing.
Disagree, i have used both plenty and on really tricky lines the control and torque of the brushless motors shine through.
I prefer the 12 dollar surpass motor over Furiteks tho. it is a tiny bit lighter and from what i have experienced it cogs less too.
Exactly what we are thinking!!!!!
Right on. Iguana and a longer can motor
I have both and my brushless smashes my barage. Both are setup similar except motors
Hey mine gets some jerkyness when the throttle is right where it switches from low speed to the mid speed is there a setting you changed or something?
🤟 smooth
operator
What battery is best for this motor? I put this on my C10
Does that system only have an I phone app or do they have an app for android or Samsung phones ???
Would one jump in one's Jeep and expect to drive it straight over one's house in one to one scale? Doesn't 'scale' apply to all scales? Seems expectations are not realistic.
Please do a new trx4 upgrade video :)
Good morning. I'm installing the komodo with lizard/bluetooth. Was about to download furitek app, noticed alot of negative reviews. Did you have any problems or know anything about any kind of issues? Thanks a ton, enjoy your videos
The app was fine. needed it for basic stuff like reversing polarity. A lot of its options a re not useful for crawlers
@@RCReviewChannel yeah I downloaded it, used it to switch the throttle around. Had no issues with it. Thank you for your response on the matter
A lot of that is due to driver error I feel like these brushless motors are ten times the Motor stock motor is
Ahhh man, I love my scale headlights and the iguana doesn’t allow for LED (probably the best esc for pure performance and CG)
Is there any way I can run even a single set of LEDs with the iguana? Probably wouldn’t be worth it performance wise to power them directly with another power source, which would inevitably mess with the CG
I use the aux ports on my transmitter sr315
@@darrendelgado9819 what are they usually used for? I noticed an open port on it but didn’t know if it’d work or not
@@V8chump for features you want to add. Could be any thing from lights, a winch to even a servo for a dig or 4ws. It all depends on what you want to add.
I definitely prefer the lizard/iguana esc vs the tengu esc just due to the size.
We have that coming and we'll report back. There might not be a valid reason to use the Tengu on the SCX24
My lizard pro is defective, amain sent me another one and does the same thing. It doesn't work with brushed motors very good. The motor sputters and jerks. App connection problems. Firmware update is buggy.
Furitek got with Furitekusa and sent me a Iguana Pro (brushed only). I was wrong, their customer support is very good. I can trust Furitek brand, will look into other products from them.
Where do u get them
Put some Patagonia tires on that beast. It’s not the motor at fault here. It’s the tires and center of gravity that is the problem. I have run this motor and it’s an absolute monster. Tires and center of gravity.
Yup, agree. We'll put taller gearing too to give it some wheel speed when needed.
I need one of these but for a Kyosho mini z 4x4
That would be cool. Space though and high CG is an issue.
I tried to do the same but didn't want a chop job so I bought the SCX24 just to utilize it and had no regrets. I wish they would give us a kit for the Mini Z 4x4 crawlers.
@@gabrielbeach5426 @RC Review Yea it would be pretty cool. Seeing something so small and scale moving so slowly would be awesome. I am pretty sure many of us wouldn't mind a kit too.
@@RCReviewChannel Found out that using the kyosho brushless motors with lizard esc works perfectly on the mini z. Not sacrificing weight since its now using lipos and the same motor size. Now it crawls so good.
Did it work easily with the stock remote
No the stock remote has a big receiver/esc combo box. Since there's no room I had to take it out and replace.
Will it work with my wpl c24?
you'll probably have to make your own mount.
For the price seems like just go out and get another SCX24 and double your fun
And your right the motor is just hype paried with a decent esc (furitek esc) any other low kv brushless motor inline or outrunner would give similar results with the esc. Problem is most brushless set ups are 2 to 4k kv rating for these little guys , which is way to high of a kv , even if you use a higher toothed pinion gears, clogging will be a issue . Even with foc
no more burnt motors furitek scx24 top shelf
good to hear.
It's definitely too top heavy. I'd call it a downgrade until you set some more weight down low.
Change your Tires & More weight down low and preferably get rid of that cab
Why not just do better placement?
That's coming next. More investment is really needed since all the components are huge for the space allowed. Need much better layout to improve things noticeably.
Give hobbywing some time and they will come up with something better. Haha.
The ESC is the best furitek upgrade for anyone's build. Hands down no cons, just pros.
My build would do all of that. There are much better ways to install and use weight distribution. The Komodo is high CG and takes some compensating for....make a few low CG mods and it'll be awesome! If you have a Ox, barrage, or RGT 050 brushed upgrade motor the Komodo brushless is mostly an addition to ultra low speed. The stock motor won't last long even without mods.
For sure, yes another video coming. Thank you for your suggestions.
@@RCReviewChannel More Scx24 content would be great. Your reviews seems to be fair. My suggestions are more for other viewers.
Why so slow everyone did this mother weeks ago
You mounted that terribly. Use a different receiver and don’t stack everything on the battery.
i can't justify a motor/esc that costs as much as the ENTIRE RTR truck with nothing but air spring shocks. those $ can go some much further on other upgrades or more worthwhile vehicles with DIG or 4WS. its a hobby grade toy which is fun but won't buy that motor to increase enjoyment by 1%.... it needs to by sub $50 to make it a contender
i just cant the tiny rc'sman
it's not for everyone
Give me a shout out if ya don’t mind!