Why Did The Raiders Abandon Oakland?
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- Mark Davis moved the Oakland Raiders for them to become the Las Vegas Raiders in 2017. But why did the Raiders abandon Oakland? Today on Football Lore we investigate why another NFL team relocated to another market. #nfl #raiders #oakland
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Who wouldn’t want to abandon Oakland for Vegas?? 😂
cant say I blame them!
yeah, vegas, gambling, hookers, drugs, crime
@@AttilatheThrilla Las Vegas is a dump that relies on hospitality.
Me
@@markpreston6930 True. But Oakland is just a dump
When you visit Oakland, it takes about 2-3 minutes to see why all the sports teams flee...
its rough
@@FootballLoreOfficial I had heard at the time that Oakland was rebuilding its downtown.
Well it isn't rebuilt yet haha
We stayed in Oakland about 4 years ago. In the downtown area. There’s a train that runs downtown. At 3 AM it rolled through and my Wife and I jumped out of bed and were like WTF. They love hip hop in Oakland. And you smell weed everywhere.
I don't love traveling there
Why did the Raiders abandon Oakland (twice)? Simple it was greed. Why did Oakland lose the Raiders (twice)? Both greed and incompetence.
Everyone involved in this has been a trainwreck
Ever been to Oakland? Tijuana is a nicer city. I don't blame the As or the Raiders for fleeing it's the right decision.
You never been to tiajuana
@@obrapro I have been to TJ many times Oakland is worse in every way except the police force TJ has them beat there.
Greed and revenue are two different aspects of money topics. Being in Oakland it was revenue vs. profits were low compared to other teams. Since the NFL doesn't have revenue sharing like MLB, the Raiders were stuck with a toilet bowl stadium that generated low revenue.
If you want Davis to compete and sign top players, that would require signing bonuses. In Oakland Davis couldn't afford do that since the money is up front. Now with the revenue generating in Vegas, each year it'll be easier and easier for Davis to sign off on signing bonuses to get good players.
Greed is a personal character trait, where one needs more, when there's plenty.
Revenue is the representation of the Raiders organizations operation, measured in dollar value over standard format of being annually.
As a Socal Raiders fan, its much easier to get to Vegas, pick and choose where I want to stay and decide if I want to drive or fly and in the future by train.
Oakland offered me 1 nearby hotel which cost more than any Vegas hotel I choose and I always had to choose to fly for convivence reasons.
My family is now once again ticket holders, first it was LA, now in Vegas.
Explain the hair cut first. Once we understand that we can chip away at the smaller questions….
Bro said "just make me look sily"
@@FootballLoreOfficial wait, he said that to his barber, or his head coach?
Probably both the way things have been going
It reminds me when my mom and dad used to cut my brother’s and my hair. Always before the first day of school and we would end up looking like Herman Munster
The City of Oakland absolutely abandoned the Raiders and showed no interest in keeping them in Oakland. I'm glad the Raiders left for greener pastures in Vegas. I mean the stadium alone is one of the best in football.
allegiant is awesome
@@FootballLoreOfficial great for visiting teams because there are more of them than VegASS Traitor Fans
A new stadium does not make a franchise, and while Oakland is a S-Hole of a city, the fans loved them and were devastated when they left for LA the first time. Now it has happened again, and they likely will never be back. Sadly the A's & Warriors (both championship franchises) have also left, so all there is to do in Oakland is get mugged, join the racist Black Panthers.
They renovated the stadium. A city as poor as poor as Oakland could have done anything better with those tax dollar, but they subsidized a 3-13 team that don't even play in the newly renovated stadium.
This is 100% factually incorrect. Oakland spent over $200 million to renovate the coliseum to bring the raiders back. They also spent another $200 plus million and paid for 3 different developers and offered over 100 acres for development for the Raiders to make money off like a Northern California version of LA live. Since Oakland doesn't own the Raiders they needed an actual partner that was willing to negotiate with them, give them a counter proposal or any type of proposal. The raiders did no such thing. Bowl cut wanted a hand out. Instead he gets a stand alone stadium in the middle of the desert that gets taken over by opposing fans. yeah sure enjoy the desert.
Because owners are loyal to money while fans are loyal to teams.
absolutely, they just want money and stadiums
Yet the city of Oakland didn't keep the agreement and build a new stadium 🤷♂️💯
The mayor refused A new stadium. Ask the Warriors about that.
will do
Probably bc they had no plans to build a new arena in Oakland. They pitched Chase Center to then San Francisco mayor Ed Lee. Ed Lee made it happen
Oakland Raiders fan here, both and raised in Oakland. Season tix holder every year we were back from LA. From a business perspective of course it made sense. My hometown is in such ruins the last thing on their priority list was keeping the Raiders. Ronnie Lotts group did have a very legit plan and offer but that’s where all parties said no thanks which is sad cause Ronnie being a Bay Area Legend knew the value of keeping our boys where they belong.
From a dedicated fan perspective, it’s devastating. I know I’ll get laughed at but hey it’s true. I’m still a fan of course but I just cannot get myself to accept “Vegas Raiders”. I just competed a book on how this move destroyed our Raider culture. Hopefully it’ll be out next year. Cheers all!
can't wait to read it
Send the link
Well let us know what the title is and were to get it. I have been a fan of all the Oakland teams, and while thankfully I do not live there, it is sickening to think the residents keep hiring incompetent leaders that have cause the city to go to hell, making all their teams leave.
I agree the move destroyed the fan base. It destroyed the rivalries. It really destroyed sports in a way for millions of Bay Area people. Bay Area people know first hand now that sports is not about fans. Business first. Entertainment second. Competition third. Remember this if your a fan of any sport.
Yur
A huge portion of Oakland was a SHYT hole!!!!... AND DANGEROUS!!!!
I WOULD LEAVE, TOO.
facts
If you’ve passed thru/by Oakland on the 880 no explanation is needed. If you haven’t, no explanation will do.
lol
the oakland argument babbling fails when detroits has 3 major leagues
keep this series going, do the Oilers next
on it!
Barron Hilton the grandfather of Paris Hilton founded the Chargers
The same reason the A's did.
To quote Dan Ohlmeyer, "The answer to all your questions is 'money' ".
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@@FootballLoreOfficial It's one of the best from-the-gut statements in sports. Ohlmeyer should have won an Emmy for that quote all by itself.
It's obvious that the Raiders needed to move to Las Vegas. Oakland is a crappy, broke, & high crime city.
absolutely
They ran faster outta there, quicker than Bo Jackson in his 40 yard dash
The city of Oakland had no money to keep the Raiders
great summary, they were BROKE
Yes. This marks the Raider's second time leaving Oakland. Oakland is in the well off San Francisco Bay Area but the city of Oakland itself is not rich. The fact that it had at one time 3 professional sports teams is crazy considering that. The A's, Warriors, Raiders all once called the city home. Today they're all gone or slated to leave. Even the Warriors move wasn't that far... They simply left to go across the bridge to play in much more well off San Francisco.
Also, I'm still quite against the basic idea of taxpayers paying for stadiums so that rich people can make even more money.
Too bad the city can't tax crime.
@@FootballLoreOfficialcity is not broke.
Okay. They just can't afford anything, what would you call it? @sirchi8731
Oakland is 10 technicals and a warlord away from being Mogadishu on the bay. The surprising thing is that any sports team is still there. The third world thinks Oakland is a dump.
lol
@@morrisvalentneflatlander4784 many cities are like Oakland but keep their teams
@@darylwille4878 Detroit is a vacation resort compared to Oakland.
Well technically they do share the stadium, but I’m pretty sure UNLV pays rent to the Raiders. Also, they use turf and the Raiders play on regular grass. Allegiant is a great-looking stadium!
yes but UNLV is barely a football team
@@FootballLoreOfficial well maybe not for much longer lol…they went 9-5 and reached a bowl/conference championship last year
I hope the best for them
@@FootballLoreOfficial really .... that comment did not age well... #25
The bigger question is why all three professional franchises have or are abandoning Oakland. When you look at it in that context it makes sense.
Good News: Allegiant Stadium is one of the best stadiums currently today.
Bad News: The Raiders continue to suck in Vegas. Mark Davis is notorious for being cheap. All he cares is money rather than his mouth.
most owners SUCK
I hope the raiders don't fold.
How is Mark Davis being Cheap?
@@KadeemG61 no home field advantage in Vegas for Raiders!
@@KadeemG61 The New York Jets in the desert
I flew into Oakland and rented a car.The agent told me to hit the freeway as soon as could and don’t stop😂
I have made it a point to visit stadiums and arenas that were special. I am also a huge Raiders fan. Oakland was a special place to see a game. The Oakland Alameda Coliseum was as much a part of the Raiders image as the tough guys that played for them. The Davis family tried like hell to get the city of Oakland to work with them. As we can see by the overall status of Oakland it was a wise move to go to Vegas. That said, I do miss games in Oakland. That place had character.
I can't blame them for moving
Ya been through Oakland nasty town. I'm a huge raiders fan and I was happy when they left
its rough
No real raider fans was happy they left oakland
Al was ruthless. With that in mind you know he said something to Mark periodically about his hair.
Al continued to think football had not changed since 1964 until he died. I lost all respect for him after what he did to Marcus Allen
He needs a haircut bro
Grew up in a whole line of niner fans but if the raiders moved to Sacramento when they left LA it would have changed for me as a kings fan in the 2010s as a kid even i would rep a team that represents my town so id probably be the only raider fan in my household lol
Sacramento would have been a solid pick
Raiders Fan Since Super Bowl 15 & 18 I Love the 1980s.
thats awesome
@@FootballLoreOfficial Touche' (smile)
Who calls the stadium “roomba” ? Thats the Death Star
I do
Raiders did not abandon Oakland, the mayor at the time Libby Schaff and Oakland abandoned the Raiders. They abandoned the people who were connected with the coliseum and arena venues. Hard working people who relied on the seasonal $$. Shaff created a huge unemployment fiasco so she could go to bed with “rooted in Oakland” Athletics. Now the A’s have no city, will play in a minor league venue in Crapamento eventually move to Vegas and Oakland now lost 3 pro teams to city leadership incompetence. If the A’s chose to leave to Vegas prior to the Raiders relocation, Davis would have stayed loyal to Oakland and it’s fans and workers. His poor business practices may have doomed any stadium deal but he could have brokered a deal with Ronnie Lott’s group or even Steve Young whose name was floating around as well. All in all Oakland has been f$&ked by inept mayors and for some reason all the blame falls on Al and the Raiders. Let’s not talk about the corrupt don Peralta who was part of the fleecing of Oakland with his corruption. Look into the Oakland football marketing group for ruining the first Gruden era.
they can't hang on to any pro teams anymore
The A’s did this to themselves they traded every player that was on their last year or just let them leave no one from the 2019 playoff team is there anymore fisher wanted the city to pay for howard terminal entirely when he’s the 12th richest owner in mlb with 2 billion so I don’t know how it’s Oakland’s fault that the A’s are leaving when fisher gave them 2 options which were fuck over your city funding for a team that doesn’t keep their talent or leave
I took a bart train from San Francisco to Berkley. Going through Oakland looked rough. Downtown area looked alright.
its pretty rough
It's key to note that Mt. Davis cost the City of Oakland and Alameda County hundreds of millions of dollars which took decades to pay off. The Raiders were never able to fill the seats and Oakland had to cut back on public services in order to continue paying off the debt.
dam
Almost the Irwindale Raiders back in 87’
yep
I Think Al Son Mark Said He Wanted To Move The Raiders To Las Vegas He Didn't Want To Move The Raiders To Los Angeles Because The Raiders Would Have Had Share The City Of Los Angeles With The Rams.
I would rather hav ea city to myself
The owners actually were in Favor of the Carson Stadium Project until Rams owner Stan Kroenke threw a fit and Cowboys Owner Jerry Jones came to his rescue.
One reason had to be the rampant crime in Oakland. It’s getting worse and worse every day.
Oakland - high crime, team gone.
St. Louis - high crime, team gone.
Chicago - high crime, trying very hard to leave to the more calm suburbs.
Crime isn’t the only reason, but it’s a big one.
why would players and fans want to be around crime
The locals got a brand new stadium in the 60s.( taxes) then they left for LA. Then came back in ‘95 ( more taxes).Then wanted a new stadium ( MORE TAXES). It’s easy to understand. Sad but very true. RN4L ALL IN AUTUM WIND
they don't want to pay for anything
Oakland abandoned them! And its people smh
yep
First of all, they didn't play in Oakland in the first place, but San Francisco, at Kezar and Candlestick in 1960 and 1961! Glad that was pointed out in the video.
I’m from Oakland, and I totally understand why the left 🫤
LOL
Fans should own teams, like the packers. Completely backwards here in the states
absolutely
The Raiders moved to Paradise. Las Vegas has nothing to do with this.
Brother, with all due respect Paradise is operated by the city of Las Vegas.
When you lose not one, not two but three sports franchises it stands to reason that it may not just be greed of sports ownership
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I would’ve welcomed the raiders back to LA but the chargers I’ll continue to say it . they only spent one damn year in LA in 1960 then moved to San Diego in 61 the following season witch they Should’ve stayed there iron out the issues maybe by some chance it could’ve been resolved & then it would’ve been the LA rams /LA raiders not the damn chargers!
Should have been Rams and Raiders 100%
The Chargers need to go back to San Diego. They're red headed step children in LA just like the Clippers a after thought.
Congrats on a booming video bro!
Boom! Thank you
It was originally “The Alameda Senor’s”
sorry
Im in oakland it made sense. Plus we are getting better option
nah Vegas is wayyyyy better
Fishy John made it impossible to build new stadiums. It's sad to see a team with a dominate fan base get out shown every single home game.
absolutely
I was born and raised in Oakland. I abandoned it the first chance I had. So I understand.
lol
Have you been to Oakland? Its a dump and the stadium is worse
oakland is a dump
People in Oakland vacation to Detroit they like to visit nicer cities.
@@morrisvalentneflatlander4784 whats so funny is im from Detroit, so yeah I go home to Vacation😂😂
You forgot about John Fisher and his Oakland A's Helping the Raiders to move.
true
I went to Oakland for a concert downtown. When I was walking someone from the like the 4th story of some building threw a random ass bucket of water missing me by about 5 feet. When I returned to my car after the concert the car in from of mine has a window bashed in.
thats crazy
They could have moved to Santa Clara and could have become the San Francisco Raiders.
LOL... I think the Raiders still would've been the Oakland Raiders if they would've shared Levi's with the Niners
It would've been awkward seeing the Raiders play home games at Levi's with the red seats in the backdrop though, but I think they would've had neutral colored seats if the Niners and Raiders would've shared Levi's.
I think i twas LA or nothing really, they arent a san fran team
@@SIr3N128 Going equal partner with Niners would’ve been a better decision than moving to Vegas! Value of Raiders would’ve skyrocketed to 5-6 billion and team stays in Bay Area!
They did not abandon Oakland. Oakland didn’t even want to work with them.
not as good of a title
The REAL REASON the Raiders left Oakland?? TOO FREAKING EXPENSIVE HERE IN THE BAY AREA!!! That’s it! Taxes here in the entire Bay Area are just outrageous! I don’t blame the kid for taking the Raiders out of California……
Oakland sucks kinda
Should read why did Oakland abandon the raiders, as and warriors. They had owners for years trying to work on stadium deals with no success.
because they smell
they should have moved to Mexico City
idk about that LMAO
Oakland can no longer support a professional franchise. Economic reasons. Bad management by the city. Skyrocketing crime. Dumb voters.
absolutely
If you've been to Oakland....................the stadium is in a terrible location!
Oakland is scary!
Blame it all on the cities whilst the teams just rake in the dough. Brilliant.
Oakland is a joke
the move to las vegas was the right move whether we fans like it or not.
yes
It’s over for us Oakland
yepp
Oakland is a shithole now, and I’m glad they left California. Raiders history began there but it cannot be their future, Nevada was the right choice. I know it’s sucks for the home fans but that’s every sports team in existence, there’s more fans outside the home city.
Las Vegas was a great move
Simple the A’s owner John Fisher pushed them out. Oakland chose the A’s over the Raiders
facts
And now they're losing the A's too
@@mawile2468 I don’t feel bad for Oakland. They put their hopes on a franchise that has had horrible management and for some reason they thought it would be a good idea to go with them. Over an NFL team
Maybe because they were afraid of getting robbed or killed getting to or leaving the game? Maybe just a possibility? They don’t want to get bipped
LMAO
Because the Raiders believe they can make more revenue in Las Vegas than in Oakland. Simple. Always follow the MONEY.....
always
Good for them ! I hope all business will leave Oakland , they don’t need to do businesses in a city or state that protect criminal!!!!
lol
Greed, danger and $$$$$ is why they left...
yes
The only ghetto suburb to ever have an NFL team.
facts
The reason Mark Davis was picked to run the team cuz his mom didn't want to run the team. that's why not his retail experience guy doesn't know anything about football
LMAO
Ohh how I wanted the Raider to come back to LA ..
LOL
Oakland ran them outta town bc of that ridiculous haircut. 🤕
Any real Raiders ☠️🏴☠️ fan will tell you the new stadium is the Death Star! NOT THE rumba!! Your hack lack of research killed it
I hope your car doesn't start tomorrow, and your job fires you. Also Raiders fans are trashy garbage like you so I don't care if you dont like the video
Had Amy Trask took over Raider instead of moron Mark Davis, the team would still be in Bay Area either new stadium in Oakland or equal partners with Niners! No reason to move to Vegas
I think its better for them long term
@@FootballLoreOfficial no it’s not! Too much moving
Everyone should leave Oakland. What are they going to do with the Coliseum?
concerts probably
Because Oakland is a cesspool and wouldn't build new home.
facts
Greed! Backstabbing! Billionaire owners want poor cities to pay for palace stadiums .Fan loyalty means nothing to these gluttens.
Oakland is pretty rough too
@@FootballLoreOfficial So are a lot of American cities.
@@SKULL-DUGGERY-2 okay...shiny new stadium in quickly growing safe city vs shitty stadium in shrinking poor unsafe city
@@FootballLoreOfficial Las Vegas safe city!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Palace stadium for cheapskate owner.
@@SKULL-DUGGERY-2 Okay, no offense but Oakland is a shit hole.
Mark Davis ought to afford a better haircut.
way too rich for that
When you got famous In and Out burger restaurant leave Oakland you got your answer 🤓
haha
Take look around the colesum where they played. A destitute drug laden crime hole.
facts
I can answer the question of this video with one word MONEY!
lol
It's debatable which is the bigger chit stain of a city Oakland, San Fran or LA
lmao
Sad no such thing as home field advantage anymore not in Vegas they'll never be winners again they haven't played Raider football for years they play NFL football never should have went outside the organization for coaching after 63 years I'm done with them
Vegas is a neutral site
Moving to Las Vegas wasn't the answer. Im here and for a preseason game the 49ers had more fan presence. This is a neutral stadium. Should of been Los Angeles.
dam
Yea bro it was a lot of red in the crowd. Shit stinks to see. I got to experience the OCo back in 2016 versus Buffalo. That energy and atmosphere is unmatched, especially when the squad is winning.
raiders should have gone back to LA before vegas give vegas to spanos he has no soul like the the city
LOL
or maybe the Chargers stay in San Diego, and maybe a team like the Jaguars move to Vegas instead or Vegas gets an expansion NFL team?
expansion teams are always better than relocation to me
They tried, but Stan Kroenke Cried and Jerry Jones came to his Rescue
How the Oakland A's are leaving to Las Vegas
yes
for the person that made this video if you are going to talk about the Raiders new stadium then please get the nickname correct... it's called the 'death star' not the roomba....
I literally live next to it and call it Roomba, you probably are still poor in Oakland
Mark moving the Raiders gave them a nicer stadium, sure, but it completely stripped them of one of the most celebrated and loyal fan bases in all of sports history. They’ve completely lost the home field advantage they had in Oakland because Vegas is a city full of transplants who root for their true home teams when they come to town. And Mark Davis has shown regret about moving them from Oakland for that reason (even if only a modicum). People who keep saying Oakland is too dangerous and poor to have teams clearly have never been to places like Detroit, Baltimore, Cleveland and even St. Louis. MOST American cities have high crime. That really has nothing really to do with where sports teams decide to play. This move was about GREED.
It is a neutral site now
Home field advantage?
Lot's of businesses are leaving Oakland, including Chevron. No one should be required to stay in a declining city with an incompetent and corrupt government.
agreed
Chevron HQ is in San Ramon, a relatively wealthy suburb about 30 minutes drive away.
Oakland is an overpriced dumpster, but they should build a sports museum dedicated to all professional sports based in that city.
I don't think they'll ever have teams again
We need to know why he keeps that haircut
The odds of them eventually leaving Las Vegas are basically 100%. How do people not get this?
I don't think so, what market could be better? You probably think they are gonna move to fucking Hartford Connecticut LMAO. Vegas is the largest metro that didn't have an NFL team on the west coast, the only other city was Portland.
Allegiant was the top performing stadium in North America in 2022. The Raiders have a 25-year contract. Why would Mark Davis or his heir forfeit so much $.
LA would of been so lit if the Raiders took over again
So manyRaider fans here
would have been perfect
Look like Simple Jack lmao 😆
LMAO
So, Mark Davis has a lucky haircut?
yes
Oakland is a pit.
true
* Al Davis came to the Raiders in 1963
What a clickbait title Oakland didn't keep the agreement to build a new stadium raiders got out at the right to too🤷♂️ keep reaching tho
no one is reaching its just a video about why they left, you're kinda stupid arent you
It’s all good, crime so bad there, Oakland will steal them back. …and take the A’s too 😂
LMAO
Oakland isn't the most pleasant place on earth
Either is Chicago San Francisco Detroit but they keep their teams
@@darylwille4878 ...maybe so , but its Oakland
true
Baltimore, Cleveland, New Orleans all are not the most pleasant cities, but still have their teams.
@@jaywright4671 ...very true ,
There is no there, there.
yes
Will the Oakland A's be next?
100%
They should have never went back to Oakland in the first place. They should've stayed in L.A. and build a new stadium while playing at the dated out coliseum.
They should’ve never left Oakland in 1982
Scam boy Davis wanted the taxpayers to pay for everything....and the LA taxpayers said " Stick it in your ear, Davis"
it was a mess
I don't think NFL teams returning to it's original city really works. Rams do OK because they win.
Yeah especially dying markets
@@FootballLoreOfficial I wonder how Raiders would have done returning to the second city they deserted
LA
@@mapleva The Raiders moving back to LA would've made sense. The Rams going back to LA made sense, even though looking back, they probably should've stayed in St. Louis. St. Louis was about to build them a new stadium. Yeah, it wouldn't have been the palace that SoFi is, but they would've had a real homefield advantage there. SoFi isn't a real home field for the Rams like the Edwards Jones Dome in St. Louis was.