The Sad Story of Why Oakland is Left with the Terrible Coliseum
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- The Oakland Alameda Coliseum has hosted the NFL and MLB of over 64 years, and is the last dual use stadium in existance in the US. How it has survived is a sad tale of failure. Today you will learn about America's worst ball park.
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Me, a lifelong A's and Raiders fan:
*sees title*
*pours stiff drink*
Amen brother...I did the samw
It be like that
Loaded a fat bowl, but same thing. lol
At least you have the Warrio-ooh sorry.
Same
The Coliseum is a dump, but it's my dump. I've been going there since 1992. It's a happy place full of good memories with friends and family.
Train Nerd u think Wrigley sucks?
YUP! It’s a trash hole, buts our god damn trash hole and we loved every damn minute there! #GoRaiders
Like that old, ratty , holy sweatshirt that is nice and warm and worn in and comfortable.
iamdjsluggo felt the same way about candlestick park before our team moved a few years back
Same thing happened to me when the Baltimore Colts left town . Memorial stadium was a dump but we had great times there and that stadium rocked .
*SF GIANTS:* “I don’t want the Athletics in San Jose. That’s way too close to us. Put them across the Bay! I want them right where I can see them...”
Yeah. That has never made any sense to me
San José has more population than SF and Oakland. Oakland and SF compete for that market. If the A's moved to San José they would take most of that market and its fans. There is no way the Giants accept that, they have had more recent success than the A's, why would they let their closest regional rival get most of the market when they have the advantage over there?
San Jose is also the home of the Giants minor league team
Fr bro fuuuuck the giants
@@MrStretchification yeah the a's let em in in 1990, should have never done that
Raiders and Athletics: How are you not dead?!
Coliseum: I have no idea
I see you on a lot of videos I watch.
You’re either trying to be a Justin Y. clone or we have really close interests.
Lmao!!! Perfect!
I have a roommate who eats and drinks nothing but processed TV dinners and Coke. He's thin as a rail, and has never been sick. He's the OA Coliseum of people.
Why are you everywhere? We share similar interests or what? I know you own the Kim Jong Un account.
why do i see you literally everywhere
You made me feel nostalgic for a building I have never been to in my life. How
Brian McDermott same
Haha
It’s a hunk of junk but its ours. I’ll be sad when the concrete jungle is gone.
You lucky it’s terrible
Same
“A’s don’t win”
They have been consistent for over a decade now.
Try being a Rockies fan
We also literally got 2 division titles STOLEN by the Trashtros.
@@pigs6486 97 wins or equivalent 3 years straight, we just suck in the playoffs
@@lukewancewicz488 yeah
Only winning at home?
Mariners fan walks in
Being a San Diegan, I know what it’s like to get our team ripped after all those years. Oakland has some passionate fans and they deserve better.
We still love our raiders though. We have passionate fans who will still rep the raiders. We understand not everyone will but that’s life. Unfortunately it’s just a city that needs to work on itself before having another team.
So do the Chargers fans. I lived in both San Diego and the Bay Area as a child and thus followed both teams at different times. It is sad that the Chargers left San Diego. That was a perfectly good stadium for football and it is a shame that the Chargers left.
I'm right here with you Adam. I've lived in San Diego for 49 years, when I moved here to go to SDSU. I've loved the Chargers & Padres the entire time, including having season tickets for both teams. When our Bolts moved, I felt like I lost a huge part of myself. So many good memories of tailgating at the stadium, partying at our home or going to parties, meeting players, coaches & fellow fans.
I hope the politicians, or whoever is running the show in Oakland gets it together before the A's leave too. It'll be heartbreaking for the sports fans if the A's leave right after the Raiders. Good luck Oakland fans & I hope you can keep your baseball team. After all, you do have 4 World Championship teams & no one can ever take that away from you!
True. The Murph was garbage.
Respect bro, from a die hard Raider
They should gutt the coliseum, tear down Mt. Davis and redo everything down to the plumbing. It would cost only a fraction of a new multibillion dollar stadium. Lets face it , the Coliseum is in the best spot for a stadium in Oakland.
I think this is the best option! The infrastructure is already there.
I've always said it would be an instant upgrade to the stadium for Mount Davis to be torn down. If they could do that, fix the plumbing issues, and do whatever other Renovations are needed, that's got to be a better option for everyone been trying to find a new location for new stadium, plus they could do most of the work during the offseason's which would allow the A's to continue playing there and not have to find a temporary home.
@@Rossturnerphoto there's no way the demolition and re-construction could be completed in 6 months.
@@brianf.6701 I was referring to cosmetic changes and fixing the plumbing and stuff like that. I know they couldn't completely rebuild it in that short of time but quite frankly I don't know what else needs to be done so I could be wrong
@@Rossturnerphoto The main reason is the A's would be better off long-term investing in a brand new ballpark with technology from the 2020s, not a ballpark designed for a sport it no longer hosts that is pushing 60 years old. Re-doing everything would take care of a lot of issues short term, but sooner rather than later the question that's going to come up again is when will they build a new ballpark?
I'm not from Oakland and never have been to Oakland, so if someone says that the site of the Oakland Coliseum is the best place to have a ballpark in Oakland, I'll believe them. However the issue with building a new ballpark on the current site is that it would take what, 3 years or so (uneducated guess) to completely demolish and remove the debris from the current Coliseum and then build an entirely new stadium. The question I have is where do the A's go during that time? I suppose one potential solution would be to knock down Oracle now that the Warriors are gone, build a new baseball-specific stadium on that site (provided its big enough), and then take down the Coliseum, but even that second demolition could pose potential problems being so close to the brand-new stadium. Lest we forget, I'm sure they would build up some sort of entertainment district with maybe some condos or something in the space made empty by the removal of the Coliseum, which that would take time to build. That place would be a construction nightmare for the better part of the next decade. It'd probably be pretty sweet at the end of the day, but fuck would that make for a lot of headaches for those in charge. Sorry, random thoughts.
Most pot friendly stadium in the world I will miss smoking my blunt while watching my raiders
@John Parker it’s not even cross town anymore that shit is all the way in Santa Clara
I was visiting from Detroit last week and smoked a blunt at the a’s and tigers game I like y’all stadium and city I hope they get a stadium in Oakland
totally. once lit up a huge joint in the bleachers for an A's game in the late 80's on a hot sunny day with grandparents and kids all around. Everybody got a contact high no doubt.....lol. Also at that time in the 80's would smoke weed inside the Warriors arena since cigarette smoking was still allowed then. The Warriors were terrible then so security didn't have much to do or care since the Arena was mostly empty.
@@heydudedolfan13 of course the A's wouldn't allow pot being smoked in joint form at a game. But in vape form with no odor, there's no way security could tell if someone is smoking pot or tobacco. The only way to stop it would be to not allow vaping of any kind in the ballpark. Not sure what the policy is now about that.
Wait...you can smoke blunts in the stadium? Shit I’m going to an As game in a month there. This is news.
Being from Oakland, there is nothing more nostalgic than that stadium tbh
A legendary Pink Floyd concert took place there in 1977. One of the best audience member recorded bootlegs of all time.
Being from SF. Feel the same about 3com park and cow palace. One relic and one gone.
Totally
Oh yeah the smell of backed up sewage, stepping on one of the bash Bros used needles, or getting stabbed. What wonderful memories.
I'm from the bay area
being from the bay area and a life long a's/raiders/warriors fan i have slowly began to learn that the city of oakland doesn't want sports and no matter how much the a's do to get a new staidum they will eventually move away
I won’t be surprised if Oakland lose the A’s
If the A’s leave I’m done with baseball
Theday1_ can’t blame the A’s you gotta blame the ppl in Oakland
I couldn’t agree with you more, the Giants got lucky with Pac Bell park because Willy Brown actually loves both The Giants and 49ers. After Willy Brown left SF could careless about the 49ers. The samething happened in Oakland as well, no will to keep the teams happy
Hopefully the a’s move to Jack London square
Tax payer money should never be spent to pay for a billion dollar industry’s stadium
When it’s bringing in millions if not billions of dollars worth of revenue to the city it is probably worth it. All the raiders were asking for was for Oakland to pay for half but they didn’t do it. So they went to Vegas and got it. Oakland is going to lose SO much money over deciding to basically force the raiders to leave. This is not mentioning the fact that mark Davis is actually one of the poorer owners in the league and couldn’t pay for it all himself
@Ivan J California this is probably the falsest thing I’ve read in the my entire life. First, they create jobs. Second they create tourism who actually visits Oakland for anything but sports. There’s a reason cities pay a Kings ransom to keep teams in their cities mate. Next time do some research before you comment
@Ivan J California Paying taxes is patriotic
Yeah the " Profesional" teams of NBA, NFL and MLB earns a lots of millons to built there own stadium or arena
@Ivan J California I can't argue with this shit, you have to be trolling.
The coliseum feels like home when you’re in it, the atmosphere is unmatched . I wish I could remember going to games Pre-Mount Davis
I remember it before that addition. It was a nice park.
I was born after it was built, but my dad told me hundreds of stories about how beautiful it was before mount Davis was built, as well as stories of construction going on during the game and really cool stuff like that. I wish I was alive to see it
Sports is supposed to be played in stadiums like this. We don’t need to go to some palace with $40 parking, $300 seats, and an upper deck that is halfway to the moon because you need 4 levels of luxury suites (looking at you, Jerry Jones)
I remember getting an autograph from Ricky Henderson on HOF day
@@taylorb7191 I just went to a game 2 weeks ago. A's/Indians. Parking was $40.
As a live long As fan, I just have this to say about a stadium where I spent a good part of my childhood.
It may be a dump, but it's OUR dump!
thats exactly what i was thinking when i saw the title
Its too old, its beat down and rugged, but it represents Oakland, and the Raiders and A’s so well. Too bad the Raiders are gone but whatever
@@David-bl2si nothing like garbage to represent your town
@Ramen Lover you really think so? There seems to be a political and class divide in that part of the city. If you have not been there, your really need to take a look. From the water line passing the Bart rail line to a couple of blocks down the street is a total dump. Building and houses run down like the stadium. But a couple of blocks away from the Bart rail line and its just a different part of the city. Trees everywhere, clean streets, LED street lamps, nice houses. The high the elevation you go, the richer it feels.
The colosseum is crap. And teams/leagues need to pay for their own damn stadiums and stop looking for govt handouts. And corporations need to pay taxes, since they’re citizens and all.
Be proud of that, man! That's what matters most! Sincerely, a Dodgers fan.
When the 49ers were playing their last season at Candlestick Park in 2013, it was incredible to realize that the Oakland Coliseum, for all that people complained about it, was going to out-live Candlestick Park.
Seriously. Damn that’s crazy. I miss Candlestick.
Both great places. I worked a hot dog stand during a 49ers Raiders game at Candlstick, and I had to serve beer. THAT SHIT WAS CRAZY
@@nathanchildress5596 The Stick was a free for all. As a kid I remember just roaming around, no attendants or anything.
The second they built that stupid mountain to cover the scenic view they screwed themselves lol
True Dat
fuck al davis
Michigan Wolverine in Dallas I mean why even add those extra seats, they should have built a new stadium for football
Fasho. The East Bay hills are beautiful!
@Michael Tamares Oh shit, we have an intellectual. Back off, everyone!
The sad part is putting football in a baseball park. Tear down “Mt. Davis” and rehab for baseball only.
So a billion dollars must be spent just so you can have a "slightly better angle"....??
@@pamle1 The foul lines are way to big and the whole field is also. The on deck circle at Camden Yards is so close to the front row the players will chat with you. There Home Plate looks like its in the next town.
It feels like the opposite when you're there for baseball. Not well designed for the game at all.
I wasn't alive before they built mount Davis, I've been to the coliseum hundreds of times, but my dad always tells stories of how beautiful it was before they built it.
They should put mt davis behind the plate
I still love watching my A's at the coliseum. Many great memories. The only people crying about the "terrible" coliseum are the corporations, the media and the fake fans. We like it fine.
You tell em'!
Awesome. We get the same bullshit here in Cleveland. We love it so fuggoff
A lot of great teams have played in the Coliseum. I think it fits the A's so well. I'm a Tigers fan and while Comerica is a very nice park, I miss old Tiger Stadium. It opened the same day as Fenway and had so much history. I would rather they just renovated it but, it would have required a lot of money from the city and Detroit and Boston arent on the same level financially.
As for the Coliseum, I think you can ad the players to the people bitching about it. If you look around baseball, every other team has amenities out the ass. Oakland is almost as bad as Wrigley before the renovation as far as amenities are concerned. I realize the A's arent paying beaucoup bucks to top talent but, having the most outdated facilities in baseball doesnt help their cause and is probably a contributing factor for the players that leave Oakland to sign elsewhere
@@bigtimer6074 Really? The Jake or "Progressive Field" is only, what? 25-26 years old? I wouldn't think it's in need of replacement already
@@saviorself1164 There was a big change in stadium building around the 2000s that kind of left late 90s stadiums a little. . . Less. It's not a real problem for some teams but it cost others. Like St Louis.
Almost have to wonder what's more likely: the A's getting a new stadium, or the Browns winning a Super Bowl?
A's getting a new Stadium. the Browns still have a long way to go if they want to catch the Ravens.
The Browns winning MULTIPLE Super Bowls in Cleveland! LMFAO! GO NINERS!
I don't know, if we're being real, the A's have been a pretty good, if not consistent playoff contender the past decade. They weren't as good in terms of wins and losses or division titles in 2010s like they were in the 2000s MoneyBall era, it hasn't helped that they've been in a pretty ultra-competitive AL West that saw first the Texas Rangers and then former NL dropouts Houston Astros become great teams and make (and win) World Series. The A's are a good, maybe sometimes very good squad stuck in a division that right now Houston has been dominant since 2017 and will continue to be despite being exposed as premeditative, unapologetic cheaters, for the next 2-3 seasons even after MLB resumes play next year once all the COVID-19 pandemic mess has been dealt with. And being a sometimes very good team in a division where another team is at near-dynasty levels means you might win 89, 90, 91, 92 wins or more and they win 100 and you're in second place. Fighting with Tampa Bay for one of those 2 AL WC spots and hoping another team doesn't come along and surpasses you. You don't win that WC tiebreaker, you are like Milwaukee Brewers last year, just another good team that got kicked out early on in the postseason.
But, the A's have proven they can make the postseason consistently, like Minnesota Twins. A's have a great manager, and if Washington proved anything last year in the WS, if you have most of the right components working or connecting at the right time, even small market teams can take on and beat larger-market, larger salaried teams like Astros, Red Sox, and especially the Yankees. The Yankees apparently can't win huge, critical ALCS games anymore so it's not unlikely As winning another World Series or a new stadium. Oakland has a huge inferiority complex when it comes to its bigger, larger, more prosperous Bay Area big city brother. It has taken extreme pride, historically, in being the complete antithesis of glitzy, weird, counterculture San Francisco. Losing the Warriors and Raiders will be two very large, difficult pills to swallow, but as long as they have the A's, those pills will eventually be swallowed.
The Browns are 4-1 but somehow, somewhere, they’ll choke it as they always do
9⁰
RIP Oakland Raiders.
1960-1981, 1995-2019.
Long live Oakland Raiders! 2046-present.
Say hello to Vegas baby!
@@FortyTheorem no
I give them 30 years, they'll be back to Oakland for good this time..
@@FortyTheorem 30 years???...I won't be here...
I'm a Brit and went to see the Raiders play there in 2002. I thought it was a bit run down and not exactly state of the art (although still better than many sports stadiums I've been to in the UK). But it felt like an historic place with a lot of atmosphere and great fans. We had a great time there. 👍
Yeah there's definitely some real sketchy pitches all over the UK. Plenty of other countries would give their left nut for the old and beat to sht colleseum.
This stadium is my childhood! I remember Metallica playing in the parking lot in the AFC Championship game in 2002. I remember seeing Consecutive Win #17, and as an adult the Beer is SUPER CHEAP you have no idea, yeah it's not pretty to look at but hey if anything it's a real novelty. Like a time machine back to how games used to be in the 70s.
I was at that AFC championship game also, I was 14 yrs old. My heart is broken. I love the Coliseum
Seen 2 AFC championships there myself (and so many other games too); there will never be another vibe like it in the NFL , much less in Vegas, similar to that one in the Town.
Yeah I remember going to Raiders games back before they moved to LA they would sell 48 oz. "Buckets o' Beer" for $3.50. Now it is about twice that for a small cup.
Beer at the Public House is cheaper. And the stadium is nicer.
Those old pre-Mount Davis views make me sad I could never experience them. I should also note that the third-deck tarps are now always off, aside from those on Mount Davis - that was a big move by A’s president Dave Kaval.
When someone says the Coliseum is a dump, I say, “if so, it’s our dump.”
It was very nice, but Mount Davis is a prefect microcosm to Al Davis’s ego. A’s games are fun to go there. I am still amazed The Coliseum is still standing.
@@dsl32 I wouldn't be surprised though if the A's were given permission to tear Mount Davis down, with the Raiders now gone. There's no point of it remaining there anymore.
Going from Lew Wolff to Kaval has been such a change. Wolff didn't seem to care about the fan experience, only about his real estate and how to expand it in San Jose. Kaval at least has the fan experience down, but John Fisher is still the real enemy here.
“Baseball’s last dive bar.” That statement makes me feel so nostalgic about the older stadiums that were long gone when I was a kid. Something about the Coliseum is special.... I’m just not sure what.
This reminds me of Shea Stadium. Yes it’s a dump but it’s our dump
Shea wasn't a dump don't disrespect our true home. Citi field doesn't even look like a Mets Stadium you would think the Dodgers were coming back to NY 😅
Similarly shaped stadiums with that perfectly round design. Never been to either, but from the air their aesthetics are phenomenal
@kingquazy 🤣🤣
I loved shea
I’ve seen two no hitters one perfect game and countless memories I’ll never forget at the coliseum. If we get a new stadium it will be a bitter sweet moment as that’s been our home for over 50 years.
My buddy Steve O. & I cut school from Oakland high & went to the Coliseum to see Ricky Henderson break the all time stolen base record 1990 .
First time I took my boy to a game we hit a walk off HR. He will never forget that. And he's 21 years old
You saw the Nolan Ryan No-hitter?
@@richwinds7179 I wasn’t born yet 😂 But I saw the Dallas Braden Perfect game and Sean Manea/Mike Fiers no hitters
Not even an As fan and feel some connection to it. Had a very good friend in grade school who was hugs As fan so I kinda liked them also although was a Yankee fan. But remember watching many games back then. Canseco,McGuire,Henderson they had some of my favorite pitchers as well. Was rooting for Henderson to break stolen base record. Think they based Willy Mays Hayes from Major league after Henderson. Just remember a lot of memories watching As in that stadium.
When I was twelve I tried to memorize MLB ballparks and I enjoyed saying Oakland Alameda County Coliseum. 🤣
Wow man, I am an Oaklander and way to make tear up on a beautiful day.
But seriously, you really hit the nail on the head with this one. The A’s fans love the Colosseum for its ruggedness, it’s a good representation of Oakland. I have never had more fun at a ballpark, and you don’t spend anything compared to most other ballparks. It’s a very educated and eclectic fan base. On an average night, you can have literal members of the black panthers, an Asian family, a Hispanic family, and a 75-year-old white husband and wife all drinking and talking A’s baseball together. If you sit behind the A’s dugout or in the bleachers with the drummers, you will have a blast for around $30 a ticket. Also public transit outside of the building.
With that being said there is a need for a new stadium. From the player's perspective, it sounds like a terrible place to play because of the facilities. Most all the A’s fans are for the new stadium, the sad thing is most of this doesn’t come to a public vote, it is decided by the Alameda County Council and they don’t always speak for the majority of Oaklanders.
The ending scene with the A’s hero Dallas made my heart feel good. The story behind that game and the day he did it on always gets me.
Sorry for the long reply
Thanks for this response. Im not an Oakland fan but legit I cried making this especially the last scene. I’m glad I could do the place justice.
Touch: univision.com
Soccer.... 501c lease?
stop voting for Democrats lol. You can't fix stupid
Football crowds were never that nice😕
I like how the typical white example are the ones nearing death, talking to the people who are taking over their city and acting like this is something to celebrate.
Watched my first raiders game this last season and the experience is seriously like nothing else. I’ll never forget that
Seeing Vida Blue in this video brings back fond memories of my now "distant" past...good times
Don’t you love how he has to clarify that haterburg isn’t Chris Pratt
George W. Bush it’s not like I spend my life trying to spell peoples last name. if I spell it wrong I spell it wrong, who gives a crap
@@joewestistrashproductions5422 lol don't be upset. The person that said that is clearly just wanting attention as your comment got a 100 more likes lmao
When Mt. Davis was built, that really changed a lot regarding the history of the Stadium. But I have to admit, those luxury suites where Mt. Davis is are really nice though, and the food is great.
Really a shame. Before they tacked on Mt Davis, the Coliseum was one of the most beautiful baseball stadiums around.
This Baseball Stadium is going to host cricket World Cup match . Probably going to Super Match India Vs Pak ...
It's crap compared to Pac Bell, AT and T, Oracle. Get a clue! Maybe you can go to some Giants games after the A's split for Las Vegas and see what a real ball park looks and feels like!
@@prafullacpandeyIt's perfect for cricket: circular!
@@ldfreitas9437Obviously it would’nt have held up against modern ballparks, but in the early 90s it was considered one of baseball’s gems. Good enough for Disney to film Angels in the Outfield there.
Thanks for actually talking about Oakland because people really ignore the A’s
the GIants are more popular than the A's in the Bay Area
I know
Evan Huang A’s fans >>>
@@evanhuang4464 so? A's still have more world series wins. Sit down.
A’s for life idgaf what happens with the coliseum. I was actually proud the last football/baseball tandem stadium was in my back yard.
Love the coliseum. I remember when baseball was for the working class.
I don’t see the issue with it lol. The footy club I support (Chelsea) has tried to get a new stadium for years but the council won’t allow it. Stamford Bridge has a charm and is so modest unlike other big clubs
“Not everything has to be class war” is about to be the next “not everything is politics.
@@Trillmxtic Chelsea is team litteraly made for Stamford Bridge (they were created because this stadium doesn't had any team playing in it).
@@prkp7248 we’ve been there for over 100 years. It’s very outdated
I liked the coliseum too thought it was better than SF stadium and dodgers stadium they had really good concessions too...Boba tea for $5 or $6
I'm a Pirates fan and the A's are one of my other favourite teams but my heart goes out to the people of Oakland. You deserve a nice new stadium. 🏟 Hope you get it
It's not the people of Oakland that do the supporting. 99% of the fans ( ticket buyers) are not from Oakland.
@@kenamaro3942 Ken, thx 4 the info. Ha! I wouldn't have known that
I've been a Raider fan my entire life (I'm 48 now) and I had the honor just this past year of seeing a game where it all started. I took my 10 year old son because he is also a Raider fanatic. Yes! The stadium was rough. Trough toilets and the restrooms mimicked back alleys with drug deals and marijuana smoke everywhere. Although we had a great time and paid our respects to the Almighty Coliseum we are ready for Las Vegas and the new Raiders!!!
"drug deals and marijuana smoke everywhere" pretty much just describes the Bay Area in general lol
Matt - What would you do if the NFL awarded Oakland or perhaps the East Bay, an expansion team? I mean would you embrace them 100% & forget the Raiders? There's a strong likelihood of it in the next ten years.
This is everything that's wrong with American sport. How can you just accept your team moving hundreds of miles away? Can anyone imagine Manchester United moving to London? Absolutely farcical. Fuck the ''Las Vegas'' Raiders.
@@Hammer332 I'm with you. If the Bears left Chicago, I'd be done with them.
Joseph Joseph all I’m gonna say is, is that the NFL tried that with LA. Gave them Chargers and Rams. And lemme just ask you, which team is still claimed by LA despite not being there for 26 years? Yeah they still rep Raiders. So it’ll be the same in Oakland.
You definitely deserve way more subs than this. There’s no way you only have 200k subs
I grew up in the 80-90’s attending A’s and Raiders games and have a special connection with the Oakland Landmark the place where so many of my favorite happiest and heart breaking memories have taken place. thanks for this video!!! 🏉⚾️💪✌️
I wear a handlebar mustache in honor of Rollie Fingers.
The most iconic stache in all of sports history. God speed rollie fingers.
Edit: omg rollie fingers is still alive. No bad juju for him 😆 my bad
You don't wear the handlebar mustache; the handlebar mustache wears you.
Don't forget Ben Davidson..
@@johnnymccollum5935 RIP Wade Boggs th-cam.com/video/C5bI1UPu2MI/w-d-xo.html
@@hkiller57 rip boss hog
Even though it may have been a bad stadium, it has many of our great memories
Your time will come. My beloved Phillies played at Veterans Stadium. Concrete football stadium that was always half empty and smelled of sewage. All my childhood baseball memories are linked with the Vet and the teams that played there, like the '93 Phillies. We ended up getting Citizens Bank Park in 2004...You will get your beautiful baseball stadium too, someday
@@jonwolf83 yes, I've been to both for baseball games. I was born in Philly but went to Oakland for awhile and they aren't great architecturaly but in memories and experiences
I will never forget being in the left field bleachers for game 3 of the 2006 ALDS when Scutaro broke the game open and finished off the twins
Sitting in the bleachers then going on the field to watch the fireworks on 4th of July
The place where i fell in love with baseball
"Why is Oakland Left with the Terrible Coliseum?"
Because the city refuses to change.
Or maybe it's because people are unwilling keep footing the bill for multi-millionaires. It's funny how these team owners deride socialism until it's them on the receiving end.
@@jayzenitram9621 That'd be fine and dandy if it wasn't the city itself putting a kabosh to the stadium plans, not the citizens in a vote.
@@jimllc
No, this is why:
"When the city of Oakland brought the Raiders back from Los Angeles in 1995, then-mayor Elihu Harris enticed Al Davis with $200 million in improvements to the Oakland Coliseum. The city paid for the construction with taxpayer-backed bonds, and their initial plan was to pay off the bond by selling personal seat licenses at the Coliseum. However, they didn’t sell enough of them and interest almost doubled the tab, leaving Oakland on the hook for a total of $350 million.
The Raiders will soon be leaving town for Las Vegas. Their big dumb stadium won’t be ready until 2020, but residents of Oakland and Alameda County will still be paying off the 1995 stadium renovations for eight more years. The city and county have refinanced their loan many times, but taxpayers have to pay $13 million a year in stadium taxes until 2025, good for an estimated $95 million."
Oakland is the red-headed stepchild in the Bay Area. They can't really afford to accommodate one team, yet they had three teams. Soon they'll have zero teams if the A's escape.
They can barely afford to keep the city in shape why would they build another colliseum
Back in my Air Force days, I went to many A's games. Took the BART, got off at the Coliseum exit and walked thru the tunnel that brought you out by Center Field. This was during the Billy Ball days when Rickey Henderson was stealing everything in sight. Good times! :)
I remember during the 20 game winning streak. We went to every single home game. I was 10 at the time. Still one of my best memories along with winning the AL west in 2012.
always gotta take the bart
Great memories sitting in the bleachers for the 87' All Star game with my mom, even though she was a life-long Giants fan. Also sitting at the very top on bat day, full size bats back then, banging it on the metal ring. Good times.
Ken Stabler, The Snake is rolling in his grave knowing that the Raiders will never play another game in Oakland again.
Never say never... maybe We won’t be here... but the Raider Nation is forever and they could back home. Oakland.
I forgot he passed away 😥.
doubt that. He lived to see the Raiders leave the first time when oakland fucked up.
Nope. John madden himself said "its time for a new venue" "if they wont help then its time to move" u can say what u want but whatever madden says is gospel. Especially to his former players. Therefore they're all for it.
He probably wouldn't even recognize the city now...full of PC trash and communist morons.
I’ve never been to a more intimidating sports environment than an Oakland Raiders home game.
Trust me here in NYC at Yankees Stadium (even though I hate the Yankees) those bleacher creatures at the back porch there mean serious business. Especially when the Red Sox or Mets are the opposition.
Thats where you’ll find the real diehard Yankee fans. The real New Yorkers that actually represent how New Yorkers are. Not the suited up CEO’s or 70+ year old couples you see in the boxes or suites that they love to pan the cameras to constantly
So you've never been to an LA Raiders game? I went to the '86 AFC championship there. The best way to describe it is it was a 90,000 person gang fight.
I remember when all the Oakland teams were in the exact same area. A’s, Raiders, and Warriors were literally all right next to eachother. Now one is in SF and the other is gone. All that’s left is the A’s
That was literally just four years ago. 😂
I saw the Warriors play in the 1960s at the Cow Palace. They wore The City on their jerseys and had the cable car on the back. Saw the 49ers at Kezar in the late 60s. Candlestick I saw many a Giants and 49er game. I was never an Oakland fan! Always a San Francisco fan. Last year I saw the NBA champion Warriors at Chase.
When I was growing up in the Bay Area in the 60’s - 70’s the A’s went to 3 consecutive World Series and we watched every one of those games at school on a TV that was constantly playing in the background. It was a much simpler time.
It was a much simpler time. Oakland's sports teams did a lot better then their SF counterparts in the 1970s. A's were the last great pre-free agency MLB dynasty team. You just had an idiotic, showboating clown for an owner who once petitioned MLB to experiment with orange baseballs, he treated many of his best players like rotten, old sewage leftover from Alcatraz, he used some of the most asinine, stupid reasons and arguments in arbitration hearings to not pay his best players top-dollar contracts. He appointed a young 13-year old M.C. Hammer to be his personal ballclub spy, A's players nicknamed him "Pipeline". Charley Finley was a 1960s-70s version of notorious, historically cheap 1910s Chicago White Sox owner Charles Comiskey. The man whose frugal, cheap, detrimental treatment of his players led some of them to throw the 1919 World Series to notorious gangster, gambler, hustler and bootlegger Arnold Rothstein.
The problem for Oakland sports fans was that as successful and accomplished as the A's were in winning World Series, Raiders had a very hard time just making a SB period until 1976 and Super Bowl XI. The Raiders played in 5 consecutive AFCCGS from 1973-1977, 4 of those losses were winnable ones. The conventional wisdom among most sportswriters, even after Oakland won its first SB, is that while they were certainly capable of winning Super Bowls, their journey to make a Super Bowl was a lot harder then most other teams. The pressure, the team and its owner's image as an unpredictable outlaw, the fact that most other players on most other NFL teams don't like you, perceive you as cheap, dirty, unethical lowlifes who'd be willing to kill or cripple opposing teams players, like Darryl Stingley in 1978, just to win a game, create or reinforce an individual player's reputation.
Phil Villapiano has said and most Raiders fans over the years (I'm a Saints fan), have told me that whether mine or there team is 10-6, 11-5, or 9-7, don't get overconfident, overrate or overvalue your team's chances or your playoff positioning. That doesn't mean anything, anymore. The history of the NFL is filled with a lot of great teams who had HOF players, HCs, GM's, and won 10,11 games almost every season for nearly a decade and maybe they advanced to a SB or two, but didn't end up with the Lombardi once the dust settled. Being a very, good if not great team in of itself doesn't win Super Bowls, teams that are always striving to be better even when there considered great, the ones who work hardest, study the smartest, and prepare accordingly usually have a better chance to win than most.
I can sympathize with your sentiments about a notoriously cheap owner of a baseball team. We have one of those here in Pittsburgh by the name of Bob Nutting . It's so bad, I can't even watch the team anymore. Which is a shame because I actually want the team to win. I just can't watch them. Beautiful ballpark here, slumlord owner!
@@ceepersandenderdragonssvlo4812 Jacksonville Jaguars have a
Shitty front office that rapes the team of talent yearly. Now Lynard Fornet has been waived. Fuck it..100 years of the NFL is enough. Either bring back the old USFL. or just keep the $3 in your pocket.
Does anyone remember the time Sacramento tried getting the Raiders and A’s to move there.
No tell me?
1997 Mtw they said haha nah we’re good sac
th-cam.com/video/ewPyyuoUz0E/w-d-xo.html this is the story of the plan
Sacramento would be a good spot for the A's
And then they also tried to get the Giants. I was living in Sacramento at the time.
This was a beautiful place to see a game, before they ruined it. I was and still am a Giants fan - but, growing up in the 70s & 80s my Dad and uncle took me to way more A’s games because the ‘stick was such a dump compared to the Coliseum. So sad what has happened to the stadium, and the Athletics. 🤷🏻♂️🙁
It’s sad knowing that fan bases as passionate as the Raiders and A’s end up getting screwed over by their own city
The team owners screwed their fans NOT the City....greedy " F" N owners.
When it happens it hurts.
I took my son last summer and we had a great time. It’s run down, but the place has a lot of character.
Yeah. Like a sketch "character" from The Chappelle Show
Crackhead Tyrone Biggums seems accurate 🤔
Why should taxpayers pay a dime to subsidize NFL billionaires and millionaires?
it’s a place I’ve never been but have so much love for
My favorite building on earth
I grew up in that stadium and one thing that always amazed me was how it was shitted on while people literally died at candlestick from falling chunks of concrete. No matter how shitty SF is the media focuses on Oakland's problems..
Almost like the news outlets took payoffs from SF real estate firms to hide their dirt and protect the values of their property. 🤔🤔🤔 almost...
That’s sounds like exactly what went down!! Great observation!👍
So true Oakland does so many things better than sf start with warmer weather
I traveled to SF in 2007 to watch the Minnesota Vikings play the 49ers at Candlestick. I was shocked at the structural condition if the stadium, some of the locals told me that much of the damage was from the '89 earthquake and pointed out bent steel buttress plates along with huge cracks in the concrete support pillars.
@@deanladue3151 concrete fell and killed someone. More than once I believe. You can Google that
Shat on**
Live long Raider fan from New Mexico. I've only been in this stadium twice, first time against the Steelers and second time against the Browns a few years back. And I have to say as amazing as the LV stadium is (seen the game against Miami), there was just something about the Alameda stadium... I loved it. I've seen a few other stadiums but that coliseum in Oakland was just so fun and it was like you could just feel something. You felt like you really were a part of it physically and spiritually, just so grounded... I don't know how to explain but yeah watching this choked me up a bit. I'll miss it.
I was at that game when the Scott Hatteberg hit that home run, and I still have the ticket stub. I could have gotten a free pizza from Pizza Hut because the A's hit a home run in that game, but I kept it. The reason that game was sold out was because it was on a Wednesday night, and Wednesday nights used to be dollars tickets in the upper deck.
Plus there was another oddity to that game which made it sell out.
The A's had played Kansas City on Monday night for their 19th win, and for some weird reason, they has scheduled an off day on Tuesday night, with the second game of that series played on Wednesday night. The extra time allowed for the hype to build. I had never seen that kind of scheduled off day before. If the A's had played the Royals on Tuesday like most normal series, it would not have been dollar upper deck ticket night, and it most likely would not have sold out.
I'll always have great memories of sitting in the bleachers for A's games in the 80's.
1989 SF vs OAK
Man I drive by the coliseum everyday to work on 880, can't imagine it being gone one day.
if they had enough cash, the A's could rebuild the coliseum to be only baseball specific and bringing back that charm it once had.
Dregs You mean much like what the Yankees did with the original Yankee Stadium?
That was my line of thinking but I'm not sure how much money it would take to refit a 60 year old stadium
Jonathan Dee The One And Only I’m assuming if they were to restructure the entire Coliseum, it would take about 2-3 years to do so. 1) Do the A’s management have the means and resources to restructure the Coliseum? 2) The Yankees played at Shea Stadium while Yankee Stadium was being restructured, so do you see the A’s moving in temporarily with the Giants, even with their venomous relationship?
If I was Montreal, I’d get the A’s on the line and see if they’d mind moving to Canada. The A’s have moved before, why stop a pattern.
The A’s owners are one of the wealthiest in baseball. They just simply dont give a shit about the team.
Jonathan Dee The One And Only We’ve been hearing that for who knows how long. Someone has to step up and break ground on the project. This is part of why the Dodgers moved to Los Angeles. Threaten enough to move and they will move if they see that no one around them cares. At some point, someone could care enough to lure the A’s out of Oakland (Portland, Las Vegas, Sacramento, Montreal, Vancouver, Charlotte, San Antonio). It isn’t as if the A’s aren’t without options and suitors.
I visited the coliseum last year to see a Giants vs A’s game and I must say that the stadium definitely has a charm to it. And the fans are so electric and proud of there team as a Giants fan I really admire that.
I love the coliseum. You walk through those corridors and see the field and it is just so Big! A totally different feel than any other stadium. Way better than old candlestick.
“There are two dead mice in the soda machine” 🐁💀 Bro I was at that game bro
I really hope the a’s get a new stadium and don’t move to vegas
The new ownership of the As doesn’t want to move them. At least very far if anything. I’ve heard talks about them moving it to a neighboring city but still in the east bay
They’lol probably retain the Oakland as name and move the team but still near Oakland
@Onion Head Rule 21 is created for players and coaches not to bet on baseball, it has nothing to do with relocating to Las Vegas
Hot_Blaze Gamings exactly a bit like what the 49ers and redskins did
They wont move to vegas, there triple a team already plays there
There was also a failed “uptown” ballpark proposal in maybe 2004 that was dismissed in favor of condos. That would have been right in downtown near existing mass transit. And then much later the Laney College site that also fell through. City and team ownership couldn’t get it together.
I'm going to say that it isn't a bad coliseum it's where I watched my first baseball game and it's where I watched almost all my games. This place awesome and I don't want oakland to get a new one
Is it more of a nostalgia or for the actual stadium features
I agree, it’s got something about it that just makes Oakland baseball seem right. I just don’t know if fixing it up will be more expensive
@@TylerGutwein nostalgia and also the coliseum is built really nicely next to bart
It’s not a coliseum. It’s a pit of rotting sewage pouring onto the field and into the locker rooms.
I'd rather have a stadium with seats closer than 100 ft away from the baselines. Stadium sucks especially for baseball.
I went to the Coliseum about 20ish years ago it really wasn't that bad but then I went to Texas stadium a couple months later and it was actually pretty nice even though it was old. It really opened my eyes to see how bad the Coliseum actually was. I went to the Raiders game against the Bengals this past year and you see why the Raiders are moving. The place smelled bad It, was run down, the seats were loose... It was just a bad experience.I couldn't believe an NFL team was playing in a stadium like that. Been to Levi's field been Jerry world and when you see where the Raiders played it's sad. I'm just glad they finally got a stadium to be proud of.
I first walked into the coliseum in July 1973 to watch the A's. It was absolutely beautiful with the ice plants above the bleachers and a view of the Oakland Hills,
The Mayor single handedly ran the pro teams off.
🤦🏾♂️
*inhale*agh!!
You will thank her in time. The Sonics left Seattle... addition by subtraction.
@@snuffyballparks6501 the Sonics were stolen from Seattle.
@@kmena05 Yes... by the owner who was from OKC. His intentions were to move the team and he used the Mayor as an excuse.
I was so excited when this got on my notifications.
(please do a CFL Video).
What most folks forget is that as the A's won 20 straight in 2002, they only widened their lead on the Angels by 3 or 4 games - you know, the Angels that made the playoffs as a wild card, really weren't mentioned in any playoff advertising, went to the World Series, and won the whole shebang-a-bang.
Yeah they had that comback against the Giants because dusty broke an unwritten rule . Imagine an As Giants World Series.
Good or bad I will always have great memories of the a's and raiders playing in Oakland
As a giants fan I like this stadium it’s different and something you don’t see anymore and it’s good
Mark Davis looks like when you hit ‘random’ on a character creation screen
“Or until everyone is dead”😂
Richard Romo heard that too
Oakland native and lifelong A's fan here; I basically grew up in those raucous RF bleachers you mentioned. Thanks for this vid, and thanks for showing how much nicer the Coliseum was before the Mount Davis atrocity.
Many Oakland A's fans (emphasis on Oakland) were pissed that Lew Wolff repeatedly attempted to move to San Jose/Fremont, when Howard Terminal (where the newest proposal is) was there the whole time. The irony is I grew up thinking the A's would be the first to leave the Town between the Raiders and Warriors; turns out they're the last ones standing.
I am from the Bay area I spent significant part of my life there and I could tell you the hoop Dee doo in Alameda County with the city of Oakland is ridiculous
They will never keep anything down regarding that piece of property that because they squabble there constantly discussing things and they don't wanna cause the a's to leave but problem is they literally cannot afford in financial sense from an infrastructure point from a transportation aspect they can't keep any sports team in this city of Oakland because there's just no Room
If you look at they primary problem the housing crisis alone is making the issues problematic is not the right word but every time they have wanted to redevelop that property the county is basically voted it down
So the city of Oakland has done all they can to work within their limitations because the property that occupies the Coliseum is technically county property and doesn't belong to the city of oakland so until they straightened that out ain't gonna happen
I went to so many games and We probably had the most underrated players and rosters in MLB history. No one would ever talk about A’s even when they had competitive seasons because no one respected their money ball tactics
They built some good teams with money ball. However, the one season they really went for a championship, they traded for Jon Lester to be their ace, and ruined the chemistry of the team. They had the best team in baseball that year, but blew it by trying something different!
Now they are in Vegas (were I’m from) and with the new stadium it looks like it can have the Super Bowl but the raiders will not be there
And now it’s been reported ownership has bought land in Vegas to build a new stadium set to open in 2027
Which all but puts the nail in the coffin for not just the A’s time in Oakland but sports in Oakland in general
I am an A’s fan, so this hit the feels
Giants fan but ive been to many a game in the Colosseum from childhood till forever. Its a fun ballpark and one of the last bastions of my childhood sports memories. I miss Candlestick. Imma miss the Colosseum whenever it finally does go off into stadium heaven.
I’m an a’s fan, although I kinda want them to get a new stadium if they demolish it I am gonna get sad, I grew up going here
Even though I'm a STEELERS fan, I will always show my support and love for my second favorite team. RAIDERS deserve better, and I will remain loyal to them.
STEELERS & RAIDERS 💖 4-ever
the A's don't win? news to me.....willing to bet that their winning % over the last 20yrs definitely better than the Raiders and probably better than the Warriors
pretty narrow metric to define whether a franchise has 'won'
We do well until playoffs happen.
Ranked 6th out of 30 mlb teams in regular season win total since 2000. And yes that is way better than Raiders and W's in that time frame. The problem is they've never broken through and won a title.
My first baseball game was there!!! I will always love the A’s!! That stadium holds a special place for me.
Had season tickets to the Raiders club level 1st row right on the 50 yard line. This is definitely depressing 😭 so many fond memories
$10,000 FOR season tickets to raiders games ?
@@rp1430 try 4k for 2 seats. 10k is how much regular seats are going to be in vegas thanks to the new stupid seat licenses
As a child/teenager from the Bay Area, this stadium will ALWAYS, have a place in my heart, given that it's the very first one that I've been to in my lifetime, & have had several good Oakland A's memories in that stadium. The food was outrageously delicious as well. 😋
What about Oracle Arena
That’s why raiders went to vegas
Its not the tax payers job to subsidize a stadium. We lose. The lies of jobs etc are all just that lies. They provide weekend jobs minimum wage at that.
I agree it's not the taxpayers job to pay for arenas and stadiums, but it does far more than provide weekend jobs. Bus routes, subway routes, and all nearby streets become congested on game days & concert nights, generating more revenue to nearby business & restaurants, and government transit. Street food, bodegas, buskers & other street entertainment have their best days revenue-wise when the nearby stadium is occupied. An arena is more than just concession workers, and janitorial staff. People do more than just watch the game, and go home. Not to mention all the fans that come to town worldwide when said team is having a good year, or in the middle of a deep playoff run.
@97RAVINEAVE all sports teams should be owned by the fans like the Packers.
@@chilogutierrez458 the taxpayers in vegas didnt have to pay for the stadium, the state taxed the casinos who also really wanted the raiders to come to town
Raiders have an fan base throughout California and parts of Arizona. People are going to watch game there regardless.
Been to both Candlestick and Colliseum on my trips to the US. Very happy to have visited both. So much history and charm in both.
I will say as a Bay Area native though that the Warriors privately financing the Chase Center was because of a precedent set in the late 90s. Ironically, when the Giants thought about moving, Mayor Willie Brown and San Francisco, which is both its own County and City, sold a portion of its abandoned warehouses to the Giants. The Giants loved the site, and residents were asked on a ballot if they were OK with paying for the stadium, which they said 'No.' In response, the Giants just took a loan out with the help of MLB and are where they are today. That's why when the Warriors moved in, public money was never considered because of the Giants' precedent.
thank you for this. the A's are my team, and you showed great respect for the character of the coliseum (in this video lol) but raiders management shat on the city and the A's are all thats left. A's ownership previously tried to shit on the city but they were blatantly just trying to make money so it didnt work. and with the league no longer sharing profits among the teams, the A's really need to give people a reason to come to games. theyve done a lot to make the experience at the coliseum better, but a new stadium is just mandatory with all the technology and atmosphere available at other parks today.
I was 5 years old back in 1964..I remember watching Oakland A's & Raiders play as a kid
New video idea: Critiquing every chinese water polo stadium
Ive been here all my life and no matter how it looks i always loved it
I like the NL, so I’m a Giants fan; but I’ve never had more fun than tailgating in the coliseum parking lot, getting stoned, shouting in the bleachers, and seeing my friend get pantsed but a drunk lady. What a magical place
Watched a ton of concerts there. It was an overflowing toilet with seats and grass.
the A's are leaving. Oakland politicians kicked out three sport franchises out of the city.
I thought I could watch this. Four seconds in. I couldn’t. Not yet. I’ve been an A’s fan my whole life. I listened to the Hatteberg homer on the radio after we’d all gone to bed. The Coliseum, old as it is, is a magical place for me. Too many memories of failed playoff runs and walk off hits boil up and I just can’t. 😔
2024 update it’s the last season of a’s baseball in Oakland