Everyone: "He was a god. He had the powers of gods, his children were pretty much what youd expect from god's children. He was a furtility god" Maisters: "HE WAS A HUNTER OR A KING"
9:55 "it does mention the possibility of Garth being a darker deity" Offering up your own daughters to get "deflowered" (in big quotation marks) is already plenty dark imho
He's very similar to Pan. There's also a Gaelic/Irish myth that shows depictions of THE GREEN MAN. Same beard, flowers, and women!! I have one hanging in my garden. Y'all r so great!!🐺🐲💟🌹🐙😍❄🌞🌠🔥🐊💗
The name of The Reach might refer to the extent of the reach of Garth's Green Hand. It seems many of the Gods and heroes and forms of resurrection are strongly tied to regions of land (and sea).
we appreciate the concern of our favorite gamer...we were a little under the weather and wanted to wait til our voices sounded better to record the audio so people wouldn't feel like they were getting a cold from listening to us
lol ill commit one of my sons, armor up and ride out with you, if my eight year old daughter gives her consent. House Jones is really really small but each of us fights with the strength of several gamers with high XP
Now for my GOT related comment. I'm not saying there's a 100% correlation here, but the passage quoted about "young girls flowered at his smile" reminded me of Melisandre bleeding from her loins at the sight of Bloodraven in her flames. Seeing as the old powers are waking, a lot of them through Bran w/Bloodraven's assistance... I have to wonder if that situation w/Mel is an example.
Ashley of Naath a good possibility for the first men renouncing their gods in favor of the children's is that they saw Garth as an aspect of the gods worshipped by the children and the common ground made them feel comfortable. They are both gods based off nature that require sacrifice.
I like the idea of the God of fertility and agriculture also being the patron God of mankind, seeing as humans are one of the few animals that have a form of agriculture Edit: thanks for the like!
you guys outdid yourselves again this is epic and so enlightening. i love a lot of your videos the Machiavelli of westeros is genius, your catlyn sucks videos are strong arguments and entertaining as hell . but these old power awakening series are truly epic, ive watched them all so far and even had trouble following where you intended to go with them because they seemed to rather jump around but todays video ties them all in and its truly awesome. thank you for the upload
we are a little guilty of doing them in the order that most interested us instead of putting this one out there to set up the baseline for where we were going...we were talking about it last night and I think I might put this one 1st in the playlist, or at the very least before the Sword of the Morning video
Chad Summerchild damn Chad, this is the second video I've seen you on today, lol, you must be reeeeealy pumped for the high priced fan-fi..i mean the awesomely perfect show, huh
woa woa woa, i have to pause at the 7:00, men offered up their virgin daughters to this king, he begot many children, who in turn had lots of children, in fact a strong portion of they people we have met are descended from this one many. he lived so long ago most of his life is told as legend so we dont really know much about him, he traveled the land spilling over his deeds upon the ground, he changed every society he visited, they either died or followed him and his cause, he was an inclusive man but a king is still a king therefore must punish, noble blood is held in high regard, bastards are raised as sons, equal be separate., acknowledging merit, turned nomadic peoples into states with stationary and constant occupation............. who did i just describe?
It's interesting, that all of the descendents of Garth Greenhand founded houses in the Reach...except for Brandon the Bloody Blade :) Your videos are the best! :D
sorry...when we are making them we never know how long they're going to be until they're done, or when we realize that we don't have time to do a topic justice, we have to end with cliffhangers because there is no sense in partially explaining something in a video when its clear that we would need a whole video to explain what we're thinking
I just wish you had a thousand more videos😊 I've watched most of yours at least 3 times😍 The Order of the Green Hand is my favorite GOT channel. Thank you again for your hard work and entertaining theories!
Hi there. Watched your vids. Love them😍. It gives more clarity to the caracters. Thank you. Loved the tulip fields from Holland Blessings🙏🏻✨ and ❤️ from Holland🌷
he was one of the first legendary characters from history that we took a serious interest in...we thought he was a God back when we did our king's blood video but hadn't done all the research we have now and weren't sure enough to go for it in that video so we felt like we needed to revisit it
Def gotta take everything from TWOIAF with at least a grain or two of salt it's a biased work, against magic and I have a snaking suspicion the Targaryens as well. Best way for Citadel to kill the talk of magic is make previous dragonriding kings look like dump while simultaneously bolstering the Baratheon reign.
I absolutely LOVE your videos and look forward to each one. This is the first I've seen of Garth Greenhand. Your videos and views are different than most (esp. the "Why Catelyn Sucks" series - because most almost glorify her) and that's what makes each video so interesting. Keep up the amazing work :)
We independently research everything and have paid very little attention to other people's theories since the end of our first read a few years ago...at that point, we were unsatisfied with the answers other people had provided to questions we had, and having no idea when TWOW was coming, and we lack the patience to wait, so we decided to try to figure it all out ourselves
I'm really enjoying your videos & your channel. I'm a huge mythology/folklore nerd & unfortunately haven't read the GOTs novels but enjoy the show. I know I miss much of subtext & rich fantasy elements of the books. Your videos fill in those blanks for me. And it's wonderful to know someone else saw similar themes of light/dark & chaos/balance of Egyptian mythology being so prevalent. You guys are doing a wonderful job♡
we first caught the mythology stuff when we started researching Bloodraven and weirwoods...at that point we had just started piecing the religions together and were convinced they were vitally important to figuring out what the heck is going on...we were about 90% sure Garth was a god when we made our king's blood video but couldn't place what the significance of it was until we got into the mythology aspects of the story
+Delia Hernandez we were a little sick here at the wolfs den and it delayed us a bit because we couldn't record. But don't worry we're not going anywhere
Just listened to this again, and had a thought... Does Garth Greenhand's fertility, passed down through his children, give the real reason behind the Rite of the First Night held to even today by the Lords of First Men ancestry in the North?
That pact... was just an agreement to worship the old gods in front of the Weirwoods.... NOT the weirwoods themselves... and NOT the gods of the children of the forest (unless the children also were worshipping the old gods). It wasn't long before things were conflated and the first men began to take up sacrificing to the weirwoods and regarding them as some sort of representation of the old gods themselves. Seriously, if it's between the god of the living and the god of the death... it's hard for me to think that ALL the children are actually worshipping the god of death. I mean... they are living creatures, after all. I think it's more like achieving a balance between chaos and order... but like anything, polarization happens and pits people against each other. Tastes great/Less filling... lol. Half Full/Half Empty... Something has caused the natural order to be WAY out of balance... and that must be due to the effects of the "magic" in GRRM's universe.
thank for the upload I always find you'll videos and channel has the most interesting theory/ideas makes me wonder if you'll have some inside information.
I never gave two shits about Garth Greenhand(even after awoiaf) but after watching this video, I can't fucking wait till next week! lol nice work guys, as usual
Yesssss! I really like this "The Old Powers are Waking," series! Could you do a video about the process of researching a topic that goes into making your vids?? Maybe it would be out of place but you guys are so thorough. And I wonder how you get all this info together.
we basically research the particular topic in the text, then when we think we stumbled onto something good, we do background research on it...this particular video is almost exclusively from TWOIAF...it also helps to have the iBooks because they have search functions and author's annotations...then we bounced the ideas back and forth until we come up with something that makes sense and script it and record it
I had to take a hiatus from TH-cam but I have been tempted back. Nicely done video, as usual. Maybe the fertility of Garth is related to the idea of the first night, and the chance of spreading the seed, which is apparently strong! I also find the polygamous marriages interesting and I think there might be more of that which was practiced by the first men before the Andals and the faith put the kibosh to it, as well as blood sacrifice! Looking forward to more more video's from you guys!
Come on we all know Garth was and alien. 'Greenhand' or little green man. I think I can explain this whole thing. Marklar, these marklars want to change your marklar. They don't want Marklar or any of these marklars to live here because it's bad for their marklar. They use Marklar to try and force marklars to believe they're marklar. If you let them stay here, they will build marklars and marklars. They will take all your marklars and replace them with Marklar. These marklar have no good marklar to live on Marklar, so they must come here to Marklar. Please, let these marklars stay where they can grow and prosper without any marklars, marklars, eh or marklars.
Unrelated to this specific topic of Garth but sometimes i worry that, after all this time, with all these awesome theories and legends within ASOIAF we either will never get to know 90% of it or if do, the actual events and stories will be nowhere as good as the theories. On a brighter note, your videos are fucking brilliant!
We know of some of the gods the First Men worshipped before taking the children's gods. In the story of Durran Godsgrief there was the god of the sea and the goddess of the wind. On the Three Sisters there was the Lord of the Skies and the Lady of the Waves.
such high quality research and presentation. I put you on the same level as alt shift x, who I consider the best. the insight you bring from the books to someone like me who only watches the show (so far), is invaluable. and you convince me of everything...except Ned being Jon's father; I have my own crazy theory for that.
you guys are full of info and i would really like to see a prediction video for TWOW by you guys...Don't worry, you got time to do it since winter is still a long time away...
Oakenshield! Another name taken from Tolkien character! Yay! And I only noticed on what must be my tenth watching of this video... Which just further proves that what you two do is amazing!
I am listening to this again and something just occurred to me. Is it possible that the Green Men on the Isle of Gods are the clergy of the First Men? I am assuming because their name is "green men" they are somehow connected to Garth the Greenhand.
You guys are the best and the worst. I LOVE all your videos, so enlightening and by far the best content out there. But how are you going to leave us with a cliffhanger like that????? Also I commented before that Mel's actress said in an interview that The showrunners told her that Mel is over 200 years old which is too old to be Shiera Seastar. Was wondering if you had a chance to look into that further into that?
I've watched this again after re-watching the series. I know you guys dive more into the books than the show. but I think the showrunners pay homage to what Martin was wanting to do or is going to do. Like what I asked about with Mance & the sword of the morning in the show. There looks & what they said. "I wish you good fortune in the wars to come" It's like he new the great war was coming. In the first season it was said many times about Jon Arynes last words were "The seed is strong"... If the Green Hand literally was the ancestor too all the houses that have been fighting would be so ironic. Including Targaryens... This is the Adam & Eve with a lot more Eves of The Song of Ice and Fire! Also Lady Crane in season 6 another shout out nice! Oh yeah I forget... How many bastards did Robert have 20 something? How many great houses are there exactly?
I have a lingering question for quite a while. If the particular book titled The World of Ice & Fire were written during the Lannister's peak power why it's called the world of ice and fire? the maester yandel or gildain would never thought such title will have so much impact in the wise timeline. That's why at first I thought the book were written after the event of the dream of spring, meaning the war for the dawn 2.0 already happen and won over. That's why these maesters name the book with such title. If it is written in the current timeline (maybe align with book 1-3) why they mention "ice and fire" in the title? what correlation they have with those elements? as if the people of the seven kingdoms will care or have knowledge about it, unlike us who are all fascinated by the novels, therefore familiar with those "ice and fire" thingy
George gets this from the legend of Osiris, the Inventory Stela from ancient Egypt shows how Osiris founded Egypt, and lives thousands of years. Yet he’s also a God.
Great video like always, don't really get much info of the Reach from the books. Can't wait to see the next video on Bran the Builder, just please don't say its Brandon Stark like i hear others say who pull most their info from the show.
Garth is certainly one of the more interesting characters from the Age of Heroes. He always brings to mind childhood stories of Johnny Appleseed hahaha As always, thank you for the great video.
The Order of the Green Hand thanks! speaking about anagrams i don't have any particular interest about this character but gendry also is a kind of anagram for reign with the addition of "d". what do you think?
we wanted to set up the Gods-on-Earth aspect of our theory on where the story is going before continuing with LF...we were getting serious push back but our reasoning/justification for thinking what we do is largely based on the direction we think the story as a whole is going and a few little details we noticed about what his actions have slyly accomplished that no one seems to be paying attention to...there will be more on him soon
Garth gives off a strong king Arthur vibe to me. especially given the world of ice and fire description of him being maybe based upon an old watchief or petty king of some kind. That's virtually the exact same archaeological explanation as king Arthur has in real life. a great king who reigned over all thr tribes, plus the map of westeros and esos is a very distorted great Britain and Ireland type of landmass. You have the Britons fighting off a Saxon invasion in Arthur and you have a first man invasion in got so it's many of the same details just shuffled around There's also a bit of the Greek God Dionysus in there. that may be worth looking into as well; including the greenman deity/legend from northern Europe. that matches the "darker god" the green man died and was reborn each year and served as a fertility symbol.
Isn't the soil of the vale suppose to be the most fertile soil in Westeros but they just have far fewer lands than the reach? That's just what I'm recalling
this video is amazing. if Danny is already dead what happens when she goes north of the wall; can the night king warg her? can she become the night queen?
I have two questions/theories. 1. Couldn't brain just go back in time n learn from blood raven? 2. Could the 3 eye crow be little finger since he with the great other?
1) I'm not really sure how that works...Bloodraven is still "alive" so to speak in the books and I personally think Bran's escape from that cave is going to be 10x as epic in the books than it was in the show 2) yes
Don't mean to criticize, but did you mean Garth's "Notable ancestors" or "Notable descendants"? Also, Garth reminds me of Johnny Appleseed. Or maybe it should be the other way around. Thanks for another informative video. I do not have the history book about TWOIAF you discussed, and so your insight into it is especially interesting to me.
Everyone: "He was a god. He had the powers of gods, his children were pretty much what youd expect from god's children. He was a furtility god"
Maisters: "HE WAS A HUNTER OR A KING"
9:55 "it does mention the possibility of Garth being a darker deity"
Offering up your own daughters to get "deflowered" (in big quotation marks) is already plenty dark imho
He's very similar to Pan. There's also a Gaelic/Irish myth that shows depictions of THE GREEN MAN. Same beard, flowers, and women!! I have one hanging in my garden. Y'all r so great!!🐺🐲💟🌹🐙😍❄🌞🌠🔥🐊💗
The name of The Reach might refer to the extent of the reach of Garth's Green Hand. It seems many of the Gods and heroes and forms of resurrection are strongly tied to regions of land (and sea).
I was starting to worry about the Wolf's Den. Was going to call my banners and head that way soon..
we appreciate the concern of our favorite gamer...we were a little under the weather and wanted to wait til our voices sounded better to record the audio so people wouldn't feel like they were getting a cold from listening to us
lol ill commit one of my sons, armor up and ride out with you, if my eight year old daughter gives her consent. House Jones is really really small but each of us fights with the strength of several gamers with high XP
hahahahahha....I'll definitely keep that in mind Sir Jon of House Jones
Jon jones773 u from chicago?
originally from long beach, CA but yes, i am currently located in chi-raq
Now for my GOT related comment. I'm not saying there's a 100% correlation here, but the passage quoted about "young girls flowered at his smile" reminded me of Melisandre bleeding from her loins at the sight of Bloodraven in her flames. Seeing as the old powers are waking, a lot of them through Bran w/Bloodraven's assistance... I have to wonder if that situation w/Mel is an example.
Ashley of Naath a good possibility for the first men renouncing their gods in favor of the children's is that they saw Garth as an aspect of the gods worshipped by the children and the common ground made them feel comfortable. They are both gods based off nature that require sacrifice.
Garth demanded blood sacrifices? Like the Weirwood trees? Could it be that when he died he went into the first Weirwood Tree?
we have been trying to figure out where he went, but there is no information available
I like the idea of the God of fertility and agriculture also being the patron God of mankind, seeing as humans are one of the few animals that have a form of agriculture
Edit: thanks for the like!
I prayed to the old gods and the new for a new video everyday since the last! Thanks so much. I am always looking forward to ur videos.
Thanks Zena!
Yeahhh if you guys could stop making me whisper "Oh fuck yeah" under my breath at my work desk, that'd be great.
I'll see what I can do about that
you guys outdid yourselves again this is epic and so enlightening. i love a lot of your videos the Machiavelli of westeros is genius, your catlyn sucks videos are strong arguments and entertaining as hell . but these old power awakening series are truly epic, ive watched them all so far and even had trouble following where you intended to go with them because they seemed to rather jump around but todays video ties them all in and its truly awesome. thank you for the upload
we are a little guilty of doing them in the order that most interested us instead of putting this one out there to set up the baseline for where we were going...we were talking about it last night and I think I might put this one 1st in the playlist, or at the very least before the Sword of the Morning video
Jon jones773 - yeah I'm still wondering what all this has to do with Khal Drogo. Love every second of it tho.
I feel bad for the little girls who got their first period from him smiling at them...
Heavy with seed, spreading seed, seed that never runs out.
More like Garth Green Seed
I dont like sand. Its rough, course, irritating and it gets everywhere.
Chad Summerchild
damn Chad, this is the second video I've seen you on today, lol, you must be reeeeealy pumped for the high priced fan-fi..i mean the awesomely perfect show, huh
I fucking hate you, Chad
this guy!
Garth Greensac Sire!
woa woa woa, i have to pause at the 7:00, men offered up their virgin daughters to this king, he begot many children, who in turn had lots of children, in fact a strong portion of they people we have met are descended from this one many. he lived so long ago most of his life is told as legend so we dont really know much about him, he traveled the land spilling over his deeds upon the ground, he changed every society he visited, they either died or followed him and his cause, he was an inclusive man but a king is still a king therefore must punish, noble blood is held in high regard, bastards are raised as sons, equal be separate., acknowledging merit, turned nomadic peoples into states with stationary and constant occupation............. who did i just describe?
Answer:
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Genghis Khan
that just made me think of khal drogo too. hmmm
A man needs an endless "The Old Powers Are Waking" series. Be merciful, and never stop doing what you guys do!😊😊😊
hahah we won't! thanks so much
It's interesting, that all of the descendents of Garth Greenhand founded houses in the Reach...except for Brandon the Bloody Blade :)
Your videos are the best! :D
it is isn't it...thank you so much
Keep em coming, please.
You guys go more in depth than most ASOIAF channels. Love these. Thank you
Thanks Tehn! You're the best! :D
I've read the books I've watched all the episodes, yet i embrace the ASOIAF school that is The Order of the Green Hand...cheers
Thanks! :D
I have got to say the content you two put out is remarkable and you deserve more recognition for sure
Thank you so much
How many more old power episodes will you do i am really anxious for that ashara video
OHHH! snap! I know I'm not the only one who says this when the video ends! BEST ASOIAF channel on youtube, sincere thanks, love QOT.🌹 🌹 🌹 👏 👏
Thank you QOT
1:36 in and I'm on the edge of my seat. This is such a great channel!!!
thank you!
Been waiting for your return. I follow many other sites but yours is my favorite. Always the best GoT videos. Thanks for your time and effort.
Thank you so much for watching
Didn't know much about Garth other than some general info, really found this insightful. Can't wait for the next one!
+nick koch thank you Sir. Garth was one of the first legendary characters from history that really caught our eye
Why can't your videos be longer!!!Thanks for working so hard!
sorry...when we are making them we never know how long they're going to be until they're done, or when we realize that we don't have time to do a topic justice, we have to end with cliffhangers because there is no sense in partially explaining something in a video when its clear that we would need a whole video to explain what we're thinking
I just wish you had a thousand more videos😊 I've watched most of yours at least 3 times😍 The Order of the Green Hand is my favorite GOT channel.
Thank you again for your hard work and entertaining theories!
thank you so much...I wish we could figure out a way to make more than we do
absolutely brilliant video excited about the detailed breakdown that was amazing to add! can't wait for next one....
Thank you Lady Rhee
I can't get enough of your content!!
I'm so hyped for Bran The Builder!!!
Thanks! Us too!
Good video, guys. Always glad to see a new one.
Thank you
Hi there. Watched your vids. Love them😍. It gives more clarity to the caracters. Thank you.
Loved the tulip fields from Holland
Blessings🙏🏻✨ and ❤️ from Holland🌷
Love your videos. I've always been intrigued by Garth Greenhand and the many ancestors that come from him.
he was one of the first legendary characters from history that we took a serious interest in...we thought he was a God back when we did our king's blood video but hadn't done all the research we have now and weren't sure enough to go for it in that video so we felt like we needed to revisit it
Def gotta take everything from TWOIAF with at least a grain or two of salt
it's a biased work, against magic and I have a snaking suspicion the Targaryens as well.
Best way for Citadel to kill the talk of magic is make previous dragonriding kings look like dump while simultaneously bolstering the Baratheon reign.
I absolutely LOVE your videos and look forward to each one. This is the first I've seen of Garth Greenhand. Your videos and views are different than most (esp. the "Why Catelyn Sucks" series - because most almost glorify her) and that's what makes each video so interesting. Keep up the amazing work :)
We independently research everything and have paid very little attention to other people's theories since the end of our first read a few years ago...at that point, we were unsatisfied with the answers other people had provided to questions we had, and having no idea when TWOW was coming, and we lack the patience to wait, so we decided to try to figure it all out ourselves
Brandon of the Bloody blade + Rose of Red Lake = Ultimate power couple.
you guys are awesome. please don't ever stop making these videos! can't wait for next week
Thank you ... We wont
I can’t help but draw a parallel between Garth Greenhand and the Dagda of Irish Mythology.
Damn, this series is just getting more and more interesting. I am so loving these videos.
thank you!
Great video guys! Can't wait to see the next part and learn more about Bran the Builder!
Thanks Clint!!!
I'm really enjoying your videos & your channel. I'm a huge mythology/folklore nerd & unfortunately haven't read the GOTs novels but enjoy the show. I know I miss much of subtext & rich fantasy elements of the books. Your videos fill in those blanks for me. And it's wonderful to know someone else saw similar themes of light/dark & chaos/balance of Egyptian mythology being so prevalent. You guys are doing a wonderful job♡
we first caught the mythology stuff when we started researching Bloodraven and weirwoods...at that point we had just started piecing the religions together and were convinced they were vitally important to figuring out what the heck is going on...we were about 90% sure Garth was a god when we made our king's blood video but couldn't place what the significance of it was until we got into the mythology aspects of the story
U know work about to be lit when I see you guys videos pop up.
thank you sir
I missed you guys last night! I kept refreshing to see if you added a video. so glad you are back lol
+Delia Hernandez we were a little sick here at the wolfs den and it delayed us a bit because we couldn't record. But don't worry we're not going anywhere
and from the loins of garth sprang forth the order of the green hand so ripe with information.
hahahhaa yes
At the beginning, you refer to Garth's ancestors when I think you mean his descendants.
Just listened to this again, and had a thought... Does Garth Greenhand's fertility, passed down through his children, give the real reason behind the Rite of the First Night held to even today by the Lords of First Men ancestry in the North?
we thought about including that in the video...it does seem to make a lot of sense
just wanted to say, you two have one of the best ASOIAF channels available, if not THE best
Thank you!!!
Excellent video guys! The one I've been waiting for.
Thank you Ser!
I can't wait! Thanks guys!
That pact... was just an agreement to worship the old gods in front of the Weirwoods.... NOT the weirwoods themselves... and NOT the gods of the children of the forest (unless the children also were worshipping the old gods). It wasn't long before things were conflated and the first men began to take up sacrificing to the weirwoods and regarding them as some sort of representation of the old gods themselves. Seriously, if it's between the god of the living and the god of the death... it's hard for me to think that ALL the children are actually worshipping the god of death. I mean... they are living creatures, after all. I think it's more like achieving a balance between chaos and order... but like anything, polarization happens and pits people against each other. Tastes great/Less filling... lol. Half Full/Half Empty... Something has caused the natural order to be WAY out of balance... and that must be due to the effects of the "magic" in GRRM's universe.
thank for the upload I always find you'll videos and channel has the most interesting theory/ideas makes me wonder if you'll have some inside information.
I wish we had inside information...we definitely use every scrap of publicly available knowledge we can get our hands on though
I never gave two shits about Garth Greenhand(even after awoiaf) but after watching this video, I can't fucking wait till next week! lol nice work guys, as usual
Thank you Lord Commander
11:50 Did not expect to see Guild Wars 2 concept art!
very nice video, I also like some of the newer thumbnails you guys are working on! Your progress is good.
Yesssss! I really like this "The Old Powers are Waking," series! Could you do a video about the process of researching a topic that goes into making your vids?? Maybe it would be out of place but you guys are so thorough. And I wonder how you get all this info together.
we basically research the particular topic in the text, then when we think we stumbled onto something good, we do background research on it...this particular video is almost exclusively from TWOIAF...it also helps to have the iBooks because they have search functions and author's annotations...then we bounced the ideas back and forth until we come up with something that makes sense and script it and record it
Great video as always. Keep up the good work guys :) Thank you for sharing the knowledge.
Psyched!! Thanks guys for your awesome efforts! 👍👍
thank you for watching
I had to take a hiatus from TH-cam but I have been tempted back. Nicely done video, as usual. Maybe the fertility of Garth is related to the idea of the first night, and the chance of spreading the seed, which is apparently strong! I also find the polygamous marriages interesting and I think there might be more of that which was practiced by the first men before the Andals and the faith put the kibosh to it, as well as blood sacrifice! Looking forward to more more video's from you guys!
Thank you...good to see your name pop up again...we had a similar thought about the First Night
Come on we all know Garth was and alien. 'Greenhand' or little green man. I think I can explain this whole thing. Marklar, these marklars want to change your marklar. They don't want Marklar or any of these marklars to live here because it's bad for their marklar. They use Marklar to try and force marklars to believe they're marklar. If you let them stay here, they will build marklars and marklars. They will take all your marklars and replace them with Marklar. These marklar have no good marklar to live on Marklar, so they must come here to Marklar. Please, let these marklars stay where they can grow and prosper without any marklars, marklars, eh or marklars.
Filip Cordas I remember that episode, classic!
Unrelated to this specific topic of Garth but sometimes i worry that, after all this time, with all these awesome theories and legends within ASOIAF we either will never get to know 90% of it or if do, the actual events and stories will be nowhere as good as the theories.
On a brighter note, your videos are fucking brilliant!
At 15:31 Rose of Red Lake.... She's beyond stunning!!
I know! I totally agree! I had to sort of make up what they all looked like, but I thought she was perfect. !:)
Love your videos. Keep up the great work.
thank you...we will
Yessssssssss been waiting for this one
Hope it was worth the wait
As always. Thanks!
This is by far one of my all time favorite ASOIAF videos. I listen to this one all the time. Great job Order of the Greenhand.
We know of some of the gods the First Men worshipped before taking the children's gods. In the story of Durran Godsgrief there was the god of the sea and the goddess of the wind. On the Three Sisters there was the Lord of the Skies and the Lady of the Waves.
such high quality research and presentation. I put you on the same level as alt shift x, who I consider the best. the insight you bring from the books to someone like me who only watches the show (so far), is invaluable. and you convince me of everything...except Ned being Jon's father; I have my own crazy theory for that.
Thank you !! We really appreciate it.
you guys are full of info and i would really like to see a prediction video for TWOW by you guys...Don't worry, you got time to do it since winter is still a long time away...
This one was to short lol. Another great video and cant wait til next week :)
sorry Collin! we will have more coming out more per week this summer
Another well-researched video!
P.S....fecund has its emphasis on the first syllable.
Oakenshield! Another name taken from Tolkien character! Yay! And I only noticed on what must be my tenth watching of this video... Which just further proves that what you two do is amazing!
I am listening to this again and something just occurred to me. Is it possible that the Green Men on the Isle of Gods are the clergy of the First Men? I am assuming because their name is "green men" they are somehow connected to Garth the Greenhand.
another great video!!!
thank you
I don't know if this will get seen but I'll ask anyways. This video got me thinking, where did surnames come from in this world?
that is a very good question...it seems like the First Men surnames were somewhat descriptive, but as for the rest I have no idea
can't wait until the next one! what a cliffhanger...
Thank you so much...we do what we can
Just when things get really interesting, we are stranded in suspense! Yikes! May the fecundity of Garth Greenhand multiply your video output. :)
Lady Green Hand works at a school so she has summers off...Garth has blessed us with more free time to make videos
Great news! Can't wait for more videos. And what do we say to the God of School? Not today.
Get the champagne ready for 20k subscribers mark! Hope you pop a top, celebrate your great achievements! Love QOT.🌹 🌹 👏 👏 👏 👏
Thanks QOT! We will! I don't drink anymore, the Russian in me gets crazy when I have vodka! I will def have to do something to celebrate though. :D
Epic! Can't wait for the next part!
thanks!
Thought provoking video as always guys, love you stuff! Are most of these stories in TWOIAF?
thank you so much...pretty much all the information about Garth that is available is in TWOIAF
You guys are the best and the worst. I LOVE all your videos, so enlightening and by far the best content out there. But how are you going to leave us with a cliffhanger like that????? Also I commented before that Mel's actress said in an interview that The showrunners told her that Mel is over 200 years old which is too old to be Shiera Seastar. Was wondering if you had a chance to look into that further into that?
which video do you discuss the gods of the old men versus the children? i missed that one
I've watched this again after re-watching the series. I know you guys dive more into the books than the show. but I think the showrunners pay homage to what Martin was wanting to do or is going to do. Like what I asked about with Mance & the sword of the morning in the show. There looks & what they said. "I wish you good fortune in the wars to come" It's like he new the great war was coming. In the first season it was said many times about Jon Arynes last words were "The seed is strong"... If the Green Hand literally was the ancestor too all the houses that have been fighting would be so ironic. Including Targaryens... This is the Adam & Eve with a lot more Eves of The Song of Ice and Fire! Also Lady Crane in season 6 another shout out nice! Oh yeah I forget... How many bastards did Robert have 20 something? How many great houses are there exactly?
Love yours work so much .
thank you so much!
been waiting for this :)........
Hope you enjoyed
I have a lingering question for quite a while. If the particular book titled The World of Ice & Fire were written during the Lannister's peak power why it's called the world of ice and fire? the maester yandel or gildain would never thought such title will have so much impact in the wise timeline. That's why at first I thought the book were written after the event of the dream of spring, meaning the war for the dawn 2.0 already happen and won over. That's why these maesters name the book with such title. If it is written in the current timeline (maybe align with book 1-3) why they mention "ice and fire" in the title? what correlation they have with those elements? as if the people of the seven kingdoms will care or have knowledge about it, unlike us who are all fascinated by the novels, therefore familiar with those "ice and fire" thingy
Interesting info 😲
The seed is strong................. "where you think it is, it ain't " ~ ida Rolf
George gets this from the legend of Osiris, the Inventory Stela from ancient Egypt shows how Osiris founded Egypt, and lives thousands of years. Yet he’s also a God.
1...Let's do this
I think I might have just figured out what your numbers mean
I love numbers
that is something I totally understand...that's why it was driving me crazy that I couldn't figure out what yours meant
Great video like always, don't really get much info of the Reach from the books. Can't wait to see the next video on Bran the Builder, just please don't say its Brandon Stark like i hear others say who pull most their info from the show.
we're pretty sure he has deliberately kept the story out of the Reach
I love this channel so much
thank you!
Garth is certainly one of the more interesting characters from the Age of Heroes. He always brings to mind childhood stories of Johnny Appleseed hahaha As always, thank you for the great video.
so true! and thank you
yandel is a kind of anagram for lynda & elio.
good catch!
The Order of the Green Hand thanks! speaking about anagrams i don't have any particular interest about this character but gendry also is a kind of anagram for reign with the addition of "d". what do you think?
what happen to you guys' finishing the little finger series, loved the idea and theory that his an agent of the others.
we wanted to set up the Gods-on-Earth aspect of our theory on where the story is going before continuing with LF...we were getting serious push back but our reasoning/justification for thinking what we do is largely based on the direction we think the story as a whole is going and a few little details we noticed about what his actions have slyly accomplished that no one seems to be paying attention to...there will be more on him soon
awesome, thanks for the reply, love all your videos and ideas, keep up the good work.
LETS DO THIS!
Garth gives off a strong king Arthur vibe to me. especially given the world of ice and fire description of him being maybe based upon an old watchief or petty king of some kind. That's virtually the exact same archaeological explanation as king Arthur has in real life. a great king who reigned over all thr tribes, plus the map of westeros and esos is a very distorted great Britain and Ireland type of landmass. You have the Britons fighting off a Saxon invasion in Arthur and you have a first man invasion in got so it's many of the same details just shuffled around
There's also a bit of the Greek God Dionysus in there. that may be worth looking into as well; including the greenman deity/legend from northern Europe. that matches the "darker god" the green man died and was reborn each year and served as a fertility symbol.
Oh wow these videos are already over please do another the wars to come video soon :)
When you guys extend the metaphor about the "seed bag" bein Garths gnads I picture a dude rolling down the glen w his balls in a wheel barrow.
Isn't the soil of the vale suppose to be the most fertile soil in Westeros but they just have far fewer lands than the reach? That's just what I'm recalling
this video is amazing. if Danny is already dead what happens when she goes north of the wall; can the night king warg her? can she become the night queen?
I have two questions/theories.
1. Couldn't brain just go back in time n learn from blood raven?
2. Could the 3 eye crow be little finger since he with the great other?
1) I'm not really sure how that works...Bloodraven is still "alive" so to speak in the books and I personally think Bran's escape from that cave is going to be 10x as epic in the books than it was in the show
2) yes
Your videos get me too hyped. Next best thing to reading the books.
aww huge compliment! thank you
Take my like, take it!!!
Don't mean to criticize, but did you mean Garth's "Notable ancestors" or "Notable descendants"?
Also, Garth reminds me of Johnny Appleseed. Or maybe it should be the other way around.
Thanks for another informative video. I do not have the history book about TWOIAF you discussed, and so your insight into it is especially interesting to me.