Stopped watching after the A10 took flight. Sorry but the twin p51 thing is neat but a dumb design. Twice as heavy as a p51, pilot is not centered so can't see.
I saw this plane at the Sun N Fun airshow right after it was put back together.... Spoke with the owner/pilot as he was doing some preflight maintenance... The first two planes had merlins in them...
The F-82 was originally designed as a long-range escort fighter in World War II. The war ended well before the first production units were operational. With a pilot in each fuselage, it reduced the problem of pilot fatigue on ultra-long-range missions.
My dad, a P-51 pilot during WWII, was one of the test pilots for this program after the war. Used to go through all his notes and reports of his test flights when I was a kid. Amazing aircraft. Scored the first air victory during the Korean War.
As a kid in the Sixties, I read Air Progress when I could get it. I saw the pictures. Built U-Control models of this aircraft in balsa. But I never thought that I would ever see one in flight. Heck, I thought it was special as a kid when i saw a C-119 fly over my Grandparents house on the way to the ANG Station. This video convinces me that I need to get to Oshkosh, and spend a little time in Heaven. Thank you!
There's an EMPTY seat in the right hand cockpit ! I VOLUNTEER ! I VOLUNTEER ! and you don't even have to pay me! I have a pilot's license , but not for something like that. It's just for a little piddlin Cessna 150. That my good sir is one beautiful Aircraft.
Well done camera person! Filming air show flights is really difficult; I know, I've tried to do it....but this effort is commendable with clear results....that A10 is a fearsome weapon, a mailed fist which always wins.
My uncle flew those at the beginning of the Korean War. He had some tales to tell. He also was a Bush pilot later in life after retiring from the USAF after his 20
My Uncle Ken Rowntree flew those at the start of the Korean War. One time his formation was attacked by MiG-15s so they just turned the F82s directly away from the miGs and went balls to the wall. He was a great story teller. He told how they watched the MiGs getting closer and closer He said they were shitting bricks he could only hope that the MiGs would have to turn around because of fuel. Soon afterwards his squadron was refitted with F-86s and the advantage went to us. At the very end of WW2 he was training in Mustangs. His last duty station was at Elmendorf in Anchorage, AK He got a lease on Lake Hood and later on started an Air Taxi operation. I worked 2 summers 73-74 Best experience of my life that's for sure
Cool! I wonder if he knew my Dad Rocky Jones. My Dad was the pilot of the "Mid Night Sinner" FQ-390 4th AWFS (all black paint) night fighter F-82G in Korean War he went on to be a test pilot, etc. for Hughes Aircraft Co until he retired and then he was a Formula-1 racing pilot, but unfortunately he was killed in a TX air race on 070790 at age of 69...I'll be 65 in Oct
@@paulhowes5094 No, his name was H.W. "Rocky" Jones, Jr. and his name (and I think his rank at the time) is printed on the instruction sheet of the 1/48 scale Modelcraft F-82G
William "Skeeter" ...is listed on the box since he was the first kill pilot (I thought they should have listed his plane number too), even though it is my Dad's plane in the painting
if anyone was curious what the plane at 1:36 was, its a Yak 110, not an official plane, its two Yak 55s stuck together with an extra jet engine in between, as you do
What the heck was that thing behind the F-82 on the runway at the beginning? Looked like two Sukhoi aerobatic aircraft joined together with a jet engine on the wing between them. How come I've never seen that before? Very interesting!!!!!!
Possibly the two most identifiable flying objects - the P51 Mustang with the monster intake opening of the Supercharger below the fuselage and the A10 Warthog with those two monster jet Engines above the fuselage.
The DoD should stop the look for a replacement for the A-10 and just give it a refit with new engines and avionics. It has a proven record of getting the job done.
Well, maybe a turboprop version would be in order. But the A-10 has a great advantage in the amount of power the engines provide. This P-82 is "bare bones." Meaning it has no armaments, no armor plating, and anything that would be required in today's modern battlefield. The P-82 was the right plane, at the time it was needed, to defeat the enemy... But in today's battlefield, one shoulder mounted Stinger AA missile would be enough to end it...
I'm on the fence. LOVE the A-10 and with ongoing avionic upgrades it remains a valuable asset to our arsenal. But there are just so many innovations that can be adopted with its current design. The replacement they are testing definitely shows its A-10 lineage but being redesigned from the ground-up will allow for an even more effective airframe and weapons platform.
Always one of those WOW, no, DOUBLE WOW aircraft. I want one for well, just the sound of two merlins, lol.! I have seen OTHER WW2 kludged together tools and solutions, but this is my favorite dedication, to "make-it-work, Sarge!" Got a dollar bet the first crew chief chewed his cigars to the bone on this one.
On 27 February 1947, P-82B 44-65168, named Betty Jo and flown by Colonel Robert E. Thacker, made history when it flew nonstop from Hawaii to New York without refueling, a distance of 8,129 km (5,051 mi) in 14 hr 32 min. It averaged 347.5 miles per hour (559.2 km/h). It remains the longest nonstop flight ever made by a propeller-driven fighter, and the fastest such a distance has ever been covered in a piston-engined aircraft (the record for the longest unrefueled flight by a propeller-driven aircraft of any type is held by the Rutan Voyager). The aircraft chosen was an earlier "B" model powered by Rolls-Royce Merlin engines. The F-82E had a range of over 1,400 mi (2,300 km), which meant that with external fuel tanks it could fly from London to Moscow, loiter for 30 minutes over the target, and return, the only American fighter which could do so. It also had an operational ceiling of 40,000 feet (12,200 m), where it could stay close to the bombers it was designed to protect. 461 mph (742 km/h, 401 kn) at 21,000 ft (6,401 m)
If I recall correctly there are something like 3 parts in common between the two aircraft. The 82 might look like it's derived from the 51 but it is a different design from the ground up.
Seeing the twin mustang in flight, look's like it would fill in the enemy's gun sight. Its so much bigger than the P51. A 190 Dora might put up a good match. With Bubi Hartmann flying the 190 ?
Whatsapp, I own a TH-cam channel with more than 30000 followers where I speak about aerospace engineering, I wonder if I could use a short piece of this video (Of course with references to this link original) to talk about the F-82 Thanks for your time
It is incredible workmanship and engineering. But my question is, what does a twin P-51 give you that two separate P-51s do not? Even the prop configuration appears way too close together to allow a center-aligned, multiple gun platform such as on the excellent P-38. I could see this carrying large drop tanks, but single P-51s already did that. Thank you for posting the video.
American innovation, ingenuity and can-do spirit exemplified by aircraft created at a time of war under impossible time constraints which remain as some of the finest ever created more than 75 years after the fact.
Not just this plane, but any twin engined plane, was it difficult to get both engines at the same RPM so the plane flew straight? Would one engine doing 100 RPM more than the other cause a drift in direction?
Y'all know what's better than a p-51 ? Two P-51s glued together . This looks like what I did with my toy airplanes when I was 10 after I'd broken the wings off!
I know they're linked by radio and presumably share the same controls but there's something unsettling about pilot and co pilot being physically separated like they would have been on this
Dc the pro 13...it can barrel roll and fly up-side down. Have seen a better demo in another video. This pilot did nothing but bank. He didn’t really show what this plane can do. Was disappointed in his inexperience in putting this plane through it’s paces. If you saw the good video you wouldn’t have to imagine it doing a barrel roll anymore. I downloaded it so, if I could just get off of here and get back, could tell you where to find that video. Would have loved to cure your curiosity.
Back in the day there would be a second pilot (or a mechanic sometimes) for long-range missions. Later models had a radar added for night fighting and the radar operator sat in the second cockpit.
@@InternalCombustion Make sure the camera is in manual video mode so that it gives you options for shutter speed/angle (same thing) and set it around 1/30" I reckon (some experimentation might be required).
@@simonalderman6995 According to this page, that particular aircraft is fitted with two Packard Merlin engines. They certainly sound like Merlins. www.airport-data.com/aircraft/N887XP.html
Two p51 mustangs joined together with a boom tail similar to a p38 lightning, xp82s were too late for WW2 but did see action in Korean war, another WW2 plane that did this twin version thing was the heinkel he 111zwilling
Yup, F-82’s shot down the first 3 aircraft in Korea. In my other video I ask the pilot how it compares to a P-38 Lightning. Didn’t realize the Germans actually completed a twin aircraft like the He111Z. I did hear about the FW109Z that was under construction when the British bombed it.
@@InternalCombustion the heinkel he 111 zwilling was built to tow the massive me 321 glider, it was two he 111s joined together with fifth engine in middle, they were used in North Africa and Russia though not many were made so they didn't make a big scene in ww2. Some were shot down or destroyed on the ground by allied aircraft
The props are counter rotating. The hardest thing to find on this restore was the left turning engine. They actually found a brand new one still in the box in Mexico City.
@@InternalCombustion Not just that. The P-82 had a much longer range than the P-38. That's the reason it was conceived in the first place, and the only reason it lasted as long as it did. It wasn't til the F-94 Starfire and the advent of in-flight refueling came along that the P-82 (F-82 by then) was allowed to be retired.
Ok, hear me out: let's learn from history, and instead of finding a replacement for the A-10... just bolt two of them together at the wingtips. I'd call it the Hogwild.
What camera have been used to make this footage? It looks very unussual. The colors, the framerate, the framing. Looks weird like some veery realistic CGI lol
Allisons, which were actually very good by the time this plane came out. Not quite the performance of a Merlin, but could take significantly more punishment.
@@InternalCombustion Yes, slower shutter and lower ISO if possible. On bright sunshine days, like in this video, maybe also use an ND tinted filter if necessary.
The XP-82 video looks great otherwise - from what I understand yes figuring out how to lower the camera shutter speed will do it. Apparently the high shutter speed is the “default setting” on all cameras.
That's Tom's bird? I saw that thing while it still sat in a closet of a hangar in Douglas GA. They had "just" started work on it (this was in 2012ish) and you couldn't even tell what it was really. I've long thought about how far along the work was. www.google.com/maps/@31.4799365,-82.8538551,80m/data=!3m1!1e3 it was in the tiny hangar on to the north. A B-17 was in the larger hangar south of it.
Does it use twice the gas? What is its range compared to P51? With a dogfight kill do both pilots get the awarded the kill. If so 1 kill x 2= 2 so if 8 enemy shot down then thats 16? Hey we could have won the war sooner with this aircraft.
+Laurie Wise It's difficult to compare the P-82/F-82 to the P-51. The design isn't two P-51s mated together but instead it is an entirely new aircraft, only sharing one or two parts from the P-51. Lots of complexity and redundant systems. It was designed to be a long-range escort so it was built to carry the fuel and ammo for the role. The range is 2000+ miles (I think it's between 2500 and 3500 depending on load and engine settings.)
+@steventhornton The twin propeller plane is a custom airshow plane. Two Yak-55 trainers were joined with a GE turbine underneath and they call it the "Yak-110". (If you remember the late Jimmy Franklin and his jet Waco biplane, same concept on a bigger plane.)
@FiveCentsPlease Jimmy was a good pilot he was in his 80s when he crashed to survive that long doing what he did and essentially putting a jet engine on a flying plank of wood is nothing short of brilliant airmanship
@FiveCentsPlease it puts me in mind of the ww2 ryan fr fireball propjet the USA came out with if you were a Japanese soldier heard a prop and a jet at the same time the terror must have been om the next level
@@steventhornton4716 No doubt that Jimmy was a good old-school pilot. I think accident investigation found that his timing was off in the routine with Younkin. RAD Aerosports have brought back a jet Waco routine. I don't know if or when Kyle Franklin will make an effort for his jet Dracula if he does at all.
I still cannot understand air show display sequencing. Here you probably have a once-in-a-lifetime chance to see and hear the XP-82 on the ground and in the air, but in the background we have a Skyraider rumbling and warming up and an A-10 powering up for departure. Both are making an unbelievable racket while the XP-82 is in the air. You should be able to experience the aircraft in their element.
@@MarcABrown-tt1fp Nope, never did. It was designed for B-29 escort across the Pacific, but the war ended before it entered service. Saw combat in Korea as a night fighter
+erepsekahs Originally designed as a long-range escort for B-29s into Japan. The war ended before production, but it was that only platform suited to escort bombers into Russia in the Cold War. It was used in other roles such as long-range patrol in Alaska and night-fighter and ground attack roles in the Korean War.
@@FiveCentsPlease Thank you. In my long life, including having had a father who was in the RAF in WWII, I had never heard of them. It looks like something Heath Robinson would have invented.
Stopped watching after the A10 took flight.
Sorry but the twin p51 thing is neat but a dumb design. Twice as heavy as a p51, pilot is not centered so can't see.
Thx for watching!
I don't remember a single soul asking, but thanks I guess?
Internal Combustion power move there pinning him😂
What does the pilots not being centered have to do with their sight?
Wow surprised
I love how one of the few Twin-Mustangs that have been restored to flight just happens to be the prototype.
I saw this plane at the Sun N Fun airshow right after it was put back together.... Spoke with the owner/pilot as he was doing some preflight maintenance... The first two planes had merlins in them...
The F-82 was originally designed as a long-range escort fighter in World War II. The war ended well before the first production units were operational.
With a pilot in each fuselage, it reduced the problem of pilot fatigue on ultra-long-range missions.
My dad, a P-51 pilot during WWII, was one of the test pilots for this program after the war. Used to go through all his notes and reports of his test flights when I was a kid. Amazing aircraft. Scored the first air victory during the Korean War.
Wow that’s amazing! You should come check out this plane and see it fly for yourself!
As a kid in the Sixties, I read Air Progress when I could get it. I saw the pictures. Built U-Control models of this aircraft in balsa. But I never thought that I would ever see one in flight. Heck, I thought it was special as a kid when i saw a C-119 fly over my Grandparents house on the way to the ANG Station. This video convinces me that I need to get to Oshkosh, and spend a little time in Heaven. Thank you!
There's an EMPTY seat in the right hand cockpit ! I VOLUNTEER ! I VOLUNTEER ! and you don't even have to pay me! I have a pilot's license , but not for something like that. It's just for a little piddlin Cessna 150. That my good sir is one beautiful Aircraft.
I remember playing on her as a kid. My family is happy to see her restored. Too bad my grandfather didn't live long enough to see it.
Walter Soplata was an American Hero.
@@hyperfocal2002 I think he could have been
Two Mustangs very much in love. May they be blessed with many little Mustangs!
Well done camera person! Filming air show flights is really difficult; I know, I've tried to do it....but this effort is commendable with clear results....that A10 is a fearsome weapon, a mailed fist which always wins.
Wonderful! Nice to see one of these birds back in the sky.
Wow....the P-51 is a beautiful aircraft. Thank you for keeping old warbirds in the air.
This Twin Mustang is incredibly cool. The people who labored to restore this beautifully homely airplane are my heroes. Seriously.
I liked the shutter rate, you can see the props rotating in different directions and watch as the revs vary between the two motors
Yea like the p38, they rotate in opposite directions to eliminate any roll, particularly on takeoff
Good Pilot at the Controls of that F-82
he's so good he looks like he's performing Ballet with it
He’s amazing. Funny guy too!
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Beautiful aircraft. Thank you for the post.
Glad you enjoyed!
One Merlin is badass. Two Merlins together in unison is just friggin badass
Their actually Allison's 😎
@@InternalCombustion they sound great. Honestly thought they were Merlins.
My uncle flew those at the beginning of the Korean War. He had some tales to tell. He also was a Bush pilot later in life after retiring from the USAF after his 20
Now that's tight formation flying 😁
A10 Warthog OINK! Love that plane!
Same! So iconic ever since I was a child!
@Paul Provenzano In america we dont put guns on planes, we put planes on guns 😂
My Uncle Ken Rowntree flew those at the start of the Korean War. One time his formation was attacked by MiG-15s so they just turned the F82s directly away from the miGs and went balls to the wall. He was a great story teller. He told how they watched the MiGs getting closer and closer He said they were shitting bricks he could only hope that the MiGs would have to turn around because of fuel. Soon afterwards his squadron was refitted with F-86s and the advantage went to us. At the very end of WW2 he was training in Mustangs. His last duty station was at Elmendorf in Anchorage, AK He got a lease on Lake Hood and later on started an Air Taxi operation. I worked 2 summers 73-74 Best experience of my life that's for sure
Cool! I wonder if he knew my Dad Rocky Jones. My Dad was the pilot of the "Mid Night Sinner" FQ-390 4th AWFS (all black paint) night fighter F-82G in Korean War he went on to be a test pilot, etc. for Hughes Aircraft Co until he retired and then he was a Formula-1 racing pilot, but unfortunately he was killed in a TX air race on 070790 at age of 69...I'll be 65 in Oct
@@rogerjones6033 Was his name Roger Jones?
@@paulhowes5094 No, his name was H.W. "Rocky" Jones, Jr. and his name (and I think his rank at the time) is printed on the instruction sheet of the 1/48 scale Modelcraft F-82G
William "Skeeter" ...is listed on the box since he was the first kill pilot (I thought they should have listed his plane number too), even though it is my Dad's plane in the painting
It's a really beautifully designed plane nevertheless! Just beautiful and extremely unusual!!!
Nice work, thanks for posting.
Thanks for resurrecting this bird! It stole the show!
love the a-10
One airframe, 2 Merlins! Gotta love 💕 it!
Only the first couple( maybe a few more) had Merlins, the rest of them had Allisons....
if anyone was curious what the plane at 1:36 was, its a Yak 110, not an official plane, its two Yak 55s stuck together with an extra jet engine in between, as you do
Thank you- I wondered what that was!
I can only imagine the look on an enemy’s face the first time they saw one of these gunning for him.
It did get the first kill in the Korean war
YES been dying to see one of these in flight. My father has a photo of him on the Tarmac in front of one of these.
Pure badassery! What a machine!
What the heck was that thing behind the F-82 on the runway at the beginning? Looked like two Sukhoi aerobatic aircraft joined together with a jet engine on the wing between them. How come I've never seen that before? Very interesting!!!!!!
Tryingvto steal the thunder from the F82. Typical yet cool
yea wtf was that!
It's a Yak 110, a custom built aerobatic plane, created by joining 2 Yak 55 aircraft and a small jet engine in between.
@@Red-rl1xx Yeah, thanks. I figured that out back about 8 months ago. LOL!
Love the A-10’s
Possibly the two most identifiable flying objects - the P51 Mustang with the monster intake opening of the Supercharger below the fuselage and the A10 Warthog with those two monster jet Engines above the fuselage.
P38 comes to mind too
7:28～9:22 the best sound of a reciprocating engine !
I read somewhere that the F-82 had a small % of parts that were shared with P-51.
The DoD should stop the look for a replacement for the A-10 and just give it a refit with new engines and avionics. It has a proven record of getting the job done.
Well, maybe a turboprop version would be in order.
But the A-10 has a great advantage in the amount of power the engines provide.
This P-82 is "bare bones." Meaning it has no armaments, no armor plating, and anything that would be required in today's modern battlefield.
The P-82 was the right plane, at the time it was needed, to defeat the enemy...
But in today's battlefield, one shoulder mounted Stinger AA missile would be enough to end it...
I'm on the fence.
LOVE the A-10 and with ongoing avionic upgrades it remains a valuable asset to our arsenal.
But there are just so many innovations that can be adopted with its current design.
The replacement they are testing definitely shows its A-10 lineage but being redesigned from the ground-up will allow for an even more effective airframe and weapons platform.
@@jameslanning8405 twin turboprop would be a great COIN aircraft. The C-47 and the Pucara are some great examples.
Turboprops would be detrimental unless you could place them in the same place its current engines are in.
Always one of those WOW, no, DOUBLE WOW aircraft. I want one for well, just the sound of two merlins, lol.!
I have seen OTHER WW2 kludged together tools and solutions, but this is my favorite dedication, to "make-it-work, Sarge!"
Got a dollar bet the first crew chief chewed his cigars to the bone on this one.
Production P-82s had Allison engines.
@@phlodel This is a P-82B, Merlin engines.
Isn't it amazing how fast it can go when its propellers are turning so slowly? Sometimes the propellers stop altogether.
I only like 2 types of music
1. Disney songs
2. Engine sound of classic warbirds
On 27 February 1947, P-82B 44-65168, named Betty Jo and flown by Colonel Robert E. Thacker, made history when it flew nonstop from Hawaii to New York without refueling, a distance of 8,129 km (5,051 mi) in 14 hr 32 min. It averaged 347.5 miles per hour (559.2 km/h). It remains the longest nonstop flight ever made by a propeller-driven
fighter, and the fastest such a distance has ever been covered in a
piston-engined aircraft (the record for the longest unrefueled flight by
a propeller-driven aircraft of any type is held by the Rutan Voyager). The aircraft chosen was an earlier "B" model powered by Rolls-Royce Merlin engines. The F-82E had a range of over 1,400 mi (2,300 km), which meant that with
external fuel tanks it could fly from London to Moscow, loiter for 30
minutes over the target, and return, the only American fighter which
could do so. It also had an operational ceiling of 40,000 feet
(12,200 m), where it could stay close to the bombers it was designed to
protect. 461 mph (742 km/h, 401 kn) at 21,000 ft (6,401 m)
Outstanding video. thanks for sharing. Appreciate it very much.
I watched another video about this airplane. Only two parts will interchange from the P-51. It's a totally different airplane.
When a P-51 and P-38 have a Kid together.
All time favorite aircraft. I would love a new speed run, Hawaii to New York remind people what a prop is capable of..
If I recall correctly there are something like 3 parts in common between the two aircraft. The 82 might look like it's derived from the 51 but it is a different design from the ground up.
Yes, but isn't it pretty!
@@randyevers6836 Gorgeous
It's closer to an P-51H, which is too a new airplane even though it carries the same name
You say that, even though the fuselage looks exactly fucking same
@@seemslegit6203 yes "looks the same"
It's interesting that you can always tell that the Jet pilots are always thinking 'Dayummmm...! When they see an old warbird.
Seeing the twin mustang in flight, look's like it would fill in the enemy's gun sight. Its so much bigger than the P51. A 190 Dora might put up a good match. With Bubi Hartmann flying the 190 ?
Well it's about twice the size lol
Just ran across your channel and subscribed! Lots of cool stuff!
Thanks a lot man! Have fun! Me262, I love axis stuff!!
From some aspects in flight, it looked somewhat like a P-38 with the central fusilage missing.
I used to wonder why it was not designated P-102?
Whatsapp, I own a TH-cam channel with more than 30000 followers where I speak about aerospace engineering, I wonder if I could use a short piece of this video (Of course with references to this link original) to talk about the F-82
Thanks for your time
Yes please leave the link to my video in the description and put some text over the video that this came from Internal Combustion
@@InternalCombustion of course, thanks very much and good video though
WTF ,BRILLIANT
It is incredible workmanship and engineering. But my question is, what does a twin P-51 give you that two separate P-51s do not? Even the prop configuration appears way too close together to allow a center-aligned, multiple gun platform such as on the excellent P-38. I could see this carrying large drop tanks, but single P-51s already did that. Thank you for posting the video.
not a twin P-51. New design altogether. Longer than the P-51
Now we need twin A-10 😍
Might as well just use an AC-130 at that rate.
Thanks to Walter Spolata for saving this ultra rare plane and the new owner for the restoration! A real American treasure! Good job!
American innovation, ingenuity and can-do spirit
exemplified by aircraft created at a time of war
under impossible time constraints which remain
as some of the finest ever created more than 75 years after the fact.
Actually, this plane was designed too late for the war lmao
I heard the twin mustang is up for sale.
Really? I wonder how much
@@InternalCombustion 12M
@@InternalCombustion Yes, it is still listed as for sale with an aircraft broker.
Not just this plane, but any twin engined plane, was it difficult to get both engines at the same RPM so the plane flew straight? Would one engine doing 100 RPM more than the other cause a drift in direction?
Y'all know what's better than a p-51 ? Two P-51s glued together .
This looks like what I did with my toy airplanes when I was 10 after I'd broken the wings off!
It's a beauty, but it really does look like it was kitbashed together.
It isn't two Mustangs. New design, longer than the P-51.
*FULL UPDATED VIDEO HERE*
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I know they're linked by radio and presumably share the same controls but there's something unsettling about pilot and co pilot being physically separated like they would have been on this
Social distancing bro
imagine barrel rolling inn this. You are not in the middle of the x axis and just spin around. It must be very exhausting
Interesting! Never thought of that!
Dc the pro 13...it can barrel roll and fly up-side down. Have seen a better demo in another video. This pilot did nothing but bank. He didn’t really show what this plane can do. Was disappointed in his inexperience in putting this plane through it’s paces. If you saw the good video you wouldn’t have to imagine it doing a barrel roll anymore. I downloaded it so, if I could just get off of here and get back, could tell you where to find that video. Would have loved to cure your curiosity.
Rated as the world's best formation flyer...
Why are there two cockpits if there’s only one pilot
Back in the day there would be a second pilot (or a mechanic sometimes) for long-range missions. Later models had a radar added for night fighting and the radar operator sat in the second cockpit.
Nice to see it! You need to adjust your shutter angle to stop that strange frozen prop effect though.
Yea I need to figure out how to do that
@@InternalCombustion what camera are you using?
Panasonic gh5
@@InternalCombustion Make sure the camera is in manual video mode so that it gives you options for shutter speed/angle (same thing) and set it around 1/30" I reckon (some experimentation might be required).
Why did the guy go up solo?
Two Merlins singing in harmony... AWESOME!!
Actually 2 Allison’s. Only the first 2 prototypes had Merlins. The rest of the 250 82’s that were built all had Allison’s. Still, phenomenal!
The rare plane that the trainer was faster than the production model.
@@simonalderman6995 It's the XP-82, it has to Merlin's.
@@simonalderman6995 According to this page, that particular aircraft is fitted with two Packard Merlin engines. They certainly sound like Merlins.
www.airport-data.com/aircraft/N887XP.html
You: 1:37
The guy she tells you not to worry about: 2:47
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What was the twin Russian thing that looks like it also had a jet engine
Now I know what inspired those weird looking fighters on cloud city in Empire
How many people confuse this for a P-38 that you that you had to specify it in the title?
Literally everyone!
Two p51 mustangs joined together with a boom tail similar to a p38 lightning, xp82s were too late for WW2 but did see action in Korean war, another WW2 plane that did this twin version thing was the heinkel he 111zwilling
Yup, F-82’s shot down the first 3 aircraft in Korea. In my other video I ask the pilot how it compares to a P-38 Lightning. Didn’t realize the Germans actually completed a twin aircraft like the He111Z. I did hear about the FW109Z that was under construction when the British bombed it.
@@InternalCombustion the heinkel he 111 zwilling was built to tow the massive me 321 glider, it was two he 111s joined together with fifth engine in middle, they were used in North Africa and Russia though not many were made so they didn't make a big scene in ww2. Some were shot down or destroyed on the ground by allied aircraft
@@InternalCombustionz or zwilling is German for twin, twin version, something like that
Not two Mustangs joined. Completely new design. Fuselage is longer than the P-51.
There was a Messerschmitt 109 Zwilling as well.
@the guy the xp 82 was a prototype
Hmm - needs twin hotted up griffons ... turbocharged of course, with contrarotating coaxial props. Cut down wings and racing canopy. A diet.
Reno ! 😃
The props are counter rotating. The hardest thing to find on this restore was the left turning engine. They actually found a brand new one still in the box in Mexico City.
,,Двойной,, красавчик!!
Indeed!!
WHAT PLANE IS ON 2:27?
Is it possible to use a camera that actually captures the props spinning the way way they are supposed to?????
That is still something I have yet to learn. Thanks for watching!
Why is everyone saying it's got little parts in common with the P-51 Mustang. Doesn't the F-82 have the same fuselage as the P-51 H, yes H, has??
I think its just butthurt americans trying to convince people that they didn't just weld 2 of their planes together to make a new one
How come I can see the propellers not moving, or barely moving? That would totally freak me out!!!
They're turning at full speed. They look like they're moving slow because of the frame rate of the camera.
I've never understood this model, what's the difference between this and a P-38, and wouldn't a P-38 with Merlin's engine be just as good?
2 pilots for long missions escorting bombers to japan.
@@InternalCombustion Not just that. The P-82 had a much longer range than the P-38. That's the reason it was conceived in the first place, and the only reason it lasted as long as it did. It wasn't til the F-94 Starfire and the advent of in-flight refueling came along that the P-82 (F-82 by then) was allowed to be retired.
Just wish they had recorded at a different frame-rate.
The props seeming to stand-still detracts from the viewing experience.
I guess the F-82 is a Jet Propelled Aircraft right? With the propellers as back-up. Is that right?
Don’t think so
No. Two piston engines, no jets. This is theXP-82 prototype. Only one that flew, only one left. The other planes like it are production F-82's
Ok, hear me out: let's learn from history, and instead of finding a replacement for the A-10... just bolt two of them together at the wingtips. I'd call it the Hogwild.
los a-10 tiraban bombas ?
What camera have been used to make this footage? It looks very unussual. The colors, the framerate, the framing. Looks weird like some veery realistic CGI lol
It's a Panasonic GH5. 4k 60fps
It's the 60 fps that does it. If you have a cell capable of doing it at any resolution it gives it an almost eerie sharpness. 4k especially.
Dual controls?
Yup. There’s certain things the second pilot can’t do however like raise the landing gear
@@InternalCombustion why though? What if the 'main' pilot is killed during a dogfight and the second pilot has to RTB?
Initially two sets of controls, but one was removed and replaced with a radar operator
Are those Allison engine or Merlins as it should be...
Allisons, which were actually very good by the time this plane came out. Not quite the performance of a Merlin, but could take significantly more punishment.
And I really like the ER Coupe.
Some people like the shutter-pixelated props - in any case there’s no technical way invented by humans to get rid of them.
That looks like a frame rate issue and can probably be addressed before recording.
Yes it can - but out of 1000 videos with props on youtube there might be one where they set camera to stop that effect.
You guys know what I could do differently to create a nice prop blur? I’m guessing a longer shutter
@@InternalCombustion Yes, slower shutter and lower ISO if possible. On bright sunshine days, like in this video, maybe also use an ND tinted filter if necessary.
The XP-82 video looks great otherwise - from what I understand yes figuring out how to lower the camera shutter speed will do it. Apparently the high shutter speed is the “default setting” on all cameras.
Tom Reilly took what was a cross between a Basket Case and a Total Wreck,
and turned it into Flying Art
That's Tom's bird? I saw that thing while it still sat in a closet of a hangar in Douglas GA. They had "just" started work on it (this was in 2012ish) and you couldn't even tell what it was really. I've long thought about how far along the work was.
www.google.com/maps/@31.4799365,-82.8538551,80m/data=!3m1!1e3 it was in the tiny hangar on to the north. A B-17 was in the larger hangar south of it.
Does it use twice the gas? What is its range compared to P51? With a dogfight kill do both pilots get the awarded the kill. If so 1 kill x 2= 2 so if 8 enemy shot down then thats 16? Hey we could have won the war sooner with this aircraft.
Laurie Wise i mean yeah and no? Like bomber it the plane that got the kill and all but u know it would be a nice propaganda tool
Engine shortages during the war
Apparently had fantastic range which was useful at the time, so I'm guessing not twice the gas.
malcolm nicholls technically twice the gas because of the doubled engines but also more fuel storage
+Laurie Wise It's difficult to compare the P-82/F-82 to the P-51. The design isn't two P-51s mated together but instead it is an entirely new aircraft, only sharing one or two parts from the P-51. Lots of complexity and redundant systems. It was designed to be a long-range escort so it was built to carry the fuel and ammo for the role. The range is 2000+ miles (I think it's between 2500 and 3500 depending on load and engine settings.)
Me at 1:27 "oh cool"
Me at 1:36 "what the fuck?"
How does it compare to the P38?
I think the pilot answers that question in this video! th-cam.com/video/Ok219ZW5pfU/w-d-xo.html
my Dad was a P-38 crew chief. he said the counter rotating blades were a bitch.
Sick :-)
Thoroughly disappointed this isn't the xpp-102
What’s that?
Seems a real shame that 2nd cockpit was empty. Could they fill the seat with high bid that goes to charity? Or just sell rides?
This plane would look really bad-ass if they painted big snarling teeth on the front of both of those planes, for nose art. Don't you think so?
Sounds like a mosquito also what's that other plane with the jet attached to the underbelly never seen that one before
+@steventhornton The twin propeller plane is a custom airshow plane. Two Yak-55 trainers were joined with a GE turbine underneath and they call it the "Yak-110". (If you remember the late Jimmy Franklin and his jet Waco biplane, same concept on a bigger plane.)
@FiveCentsPlease Jimmy was a good pilot he was in his 80s when he crashed to survive that long doing what he did and essentially putting a jet engine on a flying plank of wood is nothing short of brilliant airmanship
@FiveCentsPlease it puts me in mind of the ww2 ryan fr fireball propjet the USA came out with if you were a Japanese soldier heard a prop and a jet at the same time the terror must have been om the next level
@@steventhornton4716 No doubt that Jimmy was a good old-school pilot. I think accident investigation found that his timing was off in the routine with Younkin. RAD Aerosports have brought back a jet Waco routine. I don't know if or when Kyle Franklin will make an effort for his jet Dracula if he does at all.
@@FiveCentsPlease was he in the military as a pilot?
I still cannot understand air show display sequencing. Here you probably have a once-in-a-lifetime chance to see and hear the XP-82 on the ground and in the air, but in the background we have a Skyraider rumbling and warming up and an A-10 powering up for departure. Both are making an unbelievable racket while the XP-82 is in the air. You should be able to experience the aircraft in their element.
Dang, I thought it was some kind of joke. Crazy to big of a target. P-38 all the way
Served as long range bomber escort for a long time lol.
@@MarcABrown-tt1fp Nope, never did. It was designed for B-29 escort across the Pacific, but the war ended before it entered service. Saw combat in Korea as a night fighter
What is the purpose of it....to shoot down twice the enemy twice as quickly?
+erepsekahs Originally designed as a long-range escort for B-29s into Japan. The war ended before production, but it was that only platform suited to escort bombers into Russia in the Cold War. It was used in other roles such as long-range patrol in Alaska and night-fighter and ground attack roles in the Korean War.
@@FiveCentsPlease Thank you. In my long life, including having had a father who was in the RAF in WWII, I had never heard of them. It looks like something Heath Robinson would have invented.