I Couldn't Believe It | Hyundai Ioniq 5 N Review

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  • @TheSmokingTire
    @TheSmokingTire  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

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    • @yoosteve1885
      @yoosteve1885 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😊😅

    • @mrantisocialismo
      @mrantisocialismo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe try voting for republican so these democrats stop destroying our economy so we can stop complaining about the high costs of everything

    • @gondorian1006
      @gondorian1006 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ironic to advertise a gas app during a video for the electric Ioniq

    • @williamgechtman9287
      @williamgechtman9287 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mrantisocialismo I doubt that facts will penetrate, but...the US had *higher* GDP growth last year under President Biden than in 2019, Trump's last year pre-Covid. In fact, for the four calendar quarters ending March 2024, the US had higher GDP growth than *any other* G7 nation. In 2019 under Trump, US farm bankruptcies hit an *eight year high,* figures we hadn't seen since the Great Recession. Under President Biden, farm bankruptcies are currently *at a two decade low.*
      Speaking of historic lows, under President Biden US unemployment has been *below 4% two years in a row* for the first time since the *Vietnam war.*
      The Dow, the S&P 500, and the NASDAQ have been taking turns setting all time record highs for months, with this week going to the S&P 500 and the NASDAQ.
      The US produces more petroleum and petroleum products than it consumes; we are a net petroleum and petroleum product *exporter.* Last year the US pumped more oil than Saudi Arabia. We are the worlds leading exporter of liquefied natural gas as well.
      Inflation is currently *below* the US historical average, and is lower than it was when Ronald Reagan was reelected while boasting about "Morning in America."
      You were saying about "the economy…?"

  • @Triptisim
    @Triptisim 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +577

    Huge props to Hyundai for making real automotive innovation for ENTHUSIASTS. Seriously gives hope for the future of EV sports cars and having an actual fun and engaging driving experience, no way this tech doesn’t catch on to all the other manufacturers.

    • @sqlevolicious
      @sqlevolicious 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      Hyundai is the most innovative automotive designer and manufacture right now, they have some of the best in the industry working for them right now. I mean, just LOOK at the N Vision 74. THAT is what we all want!

    • @killr0y
      @killr0y 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If only Tesla knew all it took to make a car for "real enthusiasts" was an extra 1,000 lbs, fake engine noise, fake shifting delay, and about $100k per car TH-cam influencer...

    • @Dulc3B00kbyBrant0n
      @Dulc3B00kbyBrant0n 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      rofl id rather have a tesla than this childish crap. atleast it embraces being retarded with the fart button

    • @lanejohnson7656
      @lanejohnson7656 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sqlevolicious They need to fire their styling team. This car and the car you claim we all want are both hideous.. lol

    • @117Chief930
      @117Chief930 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lanejohnson7656 LOL! LMAOOOOO! Dude that is hilarious! Seriously, so funny! You are killing it man!

  • @gunsandcommissions
    @gunsandcommissions 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +642

    Hyundai understands the assignment.

    • @JonathonBarton
      @JonathonBarton 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      3:23 I think the best part is that the "fake burble" isn't fake. They took it from the Elantra N, so I guess you could say that it's Artificial, but not Fake...

  • @james-sw2vd
    @james-sw2vd 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    I've been in a few EVs and have been sceptical about EVs. Meaning that it was until I got in this car. This is real. It's just a crazy car. If you have a chance, make sure to test drive.

  • @EspenX
    @EspenX 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +310

    I had the chance to test the Ioniq5N for a little bit on city streets recently and even driving fairly slow, I laughed like a crazy person. It is so different than any other EV, it is mindblowing. It basically makes itself slower by going through gears and hitting the rev limiter to emulate a gas powered car, but that makes it so much more communicative. And since it got crazy instant EV torque, even in "dumb down mode" it feels and probably is faster and more powerful than an equal gas powered car. It is a driving experience unlike anything else.

    • @_Chev_Chelios
      @_Chev_Chelios 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      “It’s so much more communicative”.
      Except that it’s communicating BS.

    • @EspenX
      @EspenX 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      @@_Chev_Chelios Well, it is not totally BS, since emulating hitting the rev limiter and changing gears are physical experiences that affects the driving, experience and performance. You can see Matt using it on the track. I see it as the car being able to speak another language we know well. But I guess it is BS in that you can turn it all off and drive it like any other EV if you want. But it does add something to the driving experience.

    • @_Chev_Chelios
      @_Chev_Chelios 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@EspenX it’s a novel little trick, but it is not authentic. Artificial things become tiresome. The greatest cars are the ones that are the most real.

    • @EspenX
      @EspenX 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@_Chev_Chelios Any modern sports car have lots of stuff that is not authentic. Engine mapping is giving you grumble and bangs just because it sounds cool, fake engine noise is feed through speakers, the level of slip and drift is controlled by computers, gearboxes are tuned to make it feel like the engine is stronger than it is etc etc They are all artificial, they put on a show for the driver. You have to go back to the 90ies to have true analog and authentic car. So why not do the same things to an EV that has been done for decades on internal combustion cars?

    • @justahyundai
      @justahyundai 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@_Chev_Chelios look how far up his own ass this guy is, "ones that are the most real" lmao so is the ioniq a fake car made of wood? Or is it just not real because you can't afford one.

  • @biglee13m
    @biglee13m 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +260

    Matt sounds like he's really convinced the car has gears. Hyundai really done the magic.

    • @willclifton8671
      @willclifton8671 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Wild that when he upshift his whole body moves like it's got a true transmission

    • @Nightmarerhfan2011
      @Nightmarerhfan2011 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      @@willclifton8671 I have one in soultronic orange and the gear changes feel identical to a real transmission shifting. Puts a smile on my face nearly everytime i drive it lol.

    • @nethelin
      @nethelin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@Nightmarerhfan2011 Congrats! I just picked up my orange one yesterday...you can't drive this car without a sh*t eating grin the entire time. Videos and words don't do it justice. They've injected a soul into this car.

  • @XR4turbo
    @XR4turbo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +350

    Professional wrestling isn't real, people know it, and people still love it. The Ioniq5 N is the pro wrestler of the EV world.

    • @bbokdoong
      @bbokdoong 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      And professional wrestlers are actually very good athletes and fighters like Ioniq 5N is actually a very good sports car.

    • @pstarke1066
      @pstarke1066 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Initially, Synthesizer was created to imitate the sound of a piano,
      but now it is recognized as a unique instrument and sound,
      and It has become an essential instrument in live concerts.

    • @XR4turbo
      @XR4turbo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@bbokdoong I'm not going to call this excellent exercise in automotive kayfabe a "sports car" because it has the wrong body for that. It's a performance hatch maybe? The Vision 74....on the other hand....that could be a legit sports car.

    • @johnnyboy1586
      @johnnyboy1586 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      My uncle who passed away some years ago really believed pro wrestling was real😅

    • @JohnLee-tb3nh
      @JohnLee-tb3nh 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Fake or not, it will kick gasoline cars' ass.

  • @brandon4.983
    @brandon4.983 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +115

    I'm genuinely impressed. Well done Hyundai! This looks like a blast to drive

  • @stennordenmalm9900
    @stennordenmalm9900 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Hyundai is continuing to develop EVs in a really impressive way.
    And as a "Legacy Auto maker" and tons of racing knowledge, they know how to produce an EV that feels good on a track.
    But this is at next level, nice work Hyundai

  • @Grey_Ghost_GX
    @Grey_Ghost_GX 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +219

    Best burbble tune ever! Only the people in the car can hear it, and everyone else doesn't have to suffer.

    • @theworstben
      @theworstben 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      You can turn it off inside as well!

    • @contrarian604
      @contrarian604 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Apparently it's from an Elantra /Veloster N powertrain with the 7speed DCT

    • @CTF33
      @CTF33 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yes, my Veloster N 8 speed DCT sounds exactly the same and I love it everyday. It has the same seats too.

  • @jaepark6648
    @jaepark6648 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

    Most reviews from US market fail to mention the 0.6g regen braking that actually lowers the battery temperature of 5n. It is a huge technological achievement that enables its consistant track performance with a conventional iron rotor brake set up. Non-track version of Plaid overheats its brake system within the first lap of any track and Taycan gt has PCCB that would only last a few days of track sessions.
    I am really excited Hyundai is sponsoring its first year of 5n cup race in South Korea this year and the future sport EV model it will bring to the market.

    • @TimurIskhodzhanov
      @TimurIskhodzhanov 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tesla Plaid also generates 30% more power, and that extra kinetic energy at the end of each straight has to go somewhere. Not to say they couldn't do better, but just saying they have a harder challenge than Hyundai. And they don't market their car as a track weapon.

    • @MotionBerlinR
      @MotionBerlinR 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TimurIskhodzhanovTesla M3P has less power and can‘t do it either. Perhaps Tesla should change the name from Performance to Dragracer.

  • @Chase817
    @Chase817 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +321

    We live in crazy times man. Hyundais making 600+ hp at reasonable prices

    • @sqlevolicious
      @sqlevolicious 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      Quite literally the best automotive designer and engineers left their companies to join Hyundai. People on the outside just don't know yet that Hyundai is going to be leading a new era of the automotive enthusiast movement, and the rest of the automotive industry in the next few years. Just watch.

    • @fteoOpty64
      @fteoOpty64 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      @@sqlevolicious:Unlike the Chinese , Hyundai knows talent and can utilise it for their benefits. Their foreign collaboration is Stella in the industry. This car has the DNA of the best M car from BMW. And it achieved it without Copying but innovating in the right way with industry champions.

    • @wbwayne8887
      @wbwayne8887 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      And Tesla doubles that hp for not a whole lot more $$$ in the Plaid. They are both actual bargains for the performance. The just released refreshed Model 3 Performance even more so.

    • @JohnLee-tb3nh
      @JohnLee-tb3nh 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      Hyundai Group is projected to surpass Toyota Group and VW Group to be world's largest automaker by 2026.

    • @SuzukiKid400
      @SuzukiKid400 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@wbwayne8887that power is useless on the street though. Better handling, steering feel, lighter weight and better brakes make the car more fun to drive. Ridiculous power gets old fast, especially with no powertrain sound.

  • @tyler9703
    @tyler9703 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +288

    Im not a fan of the whole fact that its a synthetic experience. However, every single part of my brain was telling me "this is an ICE car" when you were driving. Incredible job Hyundai N, you guys are wizards.

    • @ricardofigueroa6754
      @ricardofigueroa6754 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      how cool is this car ? I’ve been watching automotive TH-cam for 15 years now and this feels like another new wave of automotive technology emerging. It’s the next segment of enthusiast car for the next 50 years. Electric capabilities with the dynamic creativity ICE cars bring. I’m fucking STOKED.

    • @sqlevolicious
      @sqlevolicious 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Hyundai is going to leading a new enthusiast movement in the car community, just watch. They have some really prestigious designers and engineers working for them right now. No doubt the industry will be following them in the next few years. Incoming wave of "evos", lol.

    • @royshavrick
      @royshavrick 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sqlevolicious this car gives me mitsubishi evo vibes with the way it handles. Like the way you can just flick it in and it oversteers, exactly like an Evo would lol.

    • @alangil40
      @alangil40 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I have thought about this for a while and pleasantly surprised to see it materialized. The next steps are to let you customize the torque curve and red line to simulate different types of engines, e.g. V12, flat-6, V8, turbo, normally aspirated, etc. Then I would love to see someone do it with a true manual transmission. For this all they need to do is simulate an idle and a fake stall. If you want to drive in normal EV mode, just leave the clutch out and shift into third (or a special 1:1 "EV gear") and drive like normal though they may need to feather in the torque a bit to save the clutch. It should be relatively easy. They already did the hard part which is to simulate torque output. I'm sure someone in the comments will say, just buy an ICE car with a manual. Well, I already have 3 of those, but I would like to see this in EVs for future proofing. Also, if it is implemented really well and you literally can't distinguish the difference from the driver's seat then it would be a whole lot cheaper to buy and more importantly maintain an EV with 600hp-800hp vs a gas-powered one.

    • @hansturpyn5455
      @hansturpyn5455 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Would love if it simulates a 7 or 8 speed automatic transmission. Not sure if this mode is available now.

  • @edmurth
    @edmurth 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +130

    I remember when Top Gear did a video on this months ago, they had a similar response to Matt and lots of UK motoring journalists just dismissed it, now they’re all getting to drive it and reacting like this lol

  • @adampadamify
    @adampadamify 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    This is the route I want ALL EV manufacturers to go down! Well done Hyundai for pioneering this tech! Used to own an i30N, seriously considering this one :)

    • @Se0what
      @Se0what 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      My country cant get the i30 so jealous

  • @nitinj1234
    @nitinj1234 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +198

    The Ioniq5N engineers must be hardcore sim-racing enthusiasts. How fast can you stack gears when you downshift?

    • @stuffhappens5681
      @stuffhappens5681 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      They hired the German dude that retired from BMWs M division to work his magic on the Ionic 5 N. Alphabetically what comes after M? Lol

    • @eloneatmyshorts
      @eloneatmyshorts 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stuffhappens5681dude he retired in 2021. His direct influences were the N gas cars.

    • @stuffhappens5681
      @stuffhappens5681 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@eloneatmyshorts According to Jason Cammisa Hyundai coaxed him out of retirement to create the Ionic 5 N. Try to keep up. 😂

    • @h.m.8589
      @h.m.8589 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@stuffhappens5681 Albert Biermann is his name. M Division's Chief engineer in BMW's M's back in the golden days when they used to make awesome cars. When he left for Hyundai/Kia/Genesis he brought a lot of the engineers from M over too. In addition, they have some well known folks from Audi, Bugatti, Bentley, designers from Italian design houses that worked Lamborghinis. They gave them a blank check and told them to go play and make something cool. N stands for Namyang [Hyundai’s main test HQ in South Korea] and in addition Nürburgring where they bring their performance cars to test on track. Albert Biermann is retired now but is still on an advisor. He is well respected for his opinions and basically helped build the soul of what the modern Korean car industry is about today.

    • @m3lowiesvlog715
      @m3lowiesvlog715 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because Albert M Power!

  • @JetskiMark11
    @JetskiMark11 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +104

    If Hyundai put the N Vision 74 body on this skateboard, I would buy one immediately.
    Well done Matt, I value your opinion.

    • @mostlypostie1
      @mostlypostie1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This!!!!

    • @I3OI3OJOA
      @I3OI3OJOA 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      2025~2026 We can meet 74

  • @Aaron-sn3sn
    @Aaron-sn3sn 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +99

    I kind of had a revelation with this excellent video. The sensor experience an ICE gives us is really baked into motorsports. It's not an advancement of the sport to remove those sensory inputs with EV's, but really amazing we could configure and EV to emulate them in a satisfactory way.

    • @PigglyWigglyDeluxe
      @PigglyWigglyDeluxe 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Exactly. No one actually cares if it’s “real” or “legitimate”, they just want to be entertained. This car is entertaining.

    • @wkkirvida
      @wkkirvida 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      No different than a high-quality video game

    • @williamgechtman9287
      @williamgechtman9287 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@wkkirvida I imagine if you have everything turned off, there is a chance, albeit small, if you seriously screw up you can die. That would be a very realistic video game indeed.

    • @sqlevolicious
      @sqlevolicious 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@wkkirvida You can't simulate g-forces well enough, even with a motion rig. Real deal is always more fun.

  • @DriverJ-N
    @DriverJ-N 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    N cars are all fun, they seriously never disappoint when it comes to being fun to drive whether it's their ice cars kona/elantra/veloster or the i5N

  • @OmarZ77
    @OmarZ77 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

    Not a fan of any EV yet, but the way this had Sofyan from Redline Reviews cracking up was something to behold.
    Clearly seems like an impressive car. Bravo Hyundai!

  • @nickfusco9667
    @nickfusco9667 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    I think Hyundai found the secret sauce for performance EVs. Love that there are different sounds to choose from. Hopefully this catches on with BMW and Porsche.

    • @JohnLee-db9zt
      @JohnLee-db9zt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Why? So BMW and Porsche can charge even more outrageous prices for what Hyundai does affordably?

    • @sqlevolicious
      @sqlevolicious 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@JohnLee-db9zt Yes, so that people will move away from those stupid luxury fashion statements, and buy a car that is more viable and affordable. This will help push the industry to produce more cars at more affordable prices. Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake. Let the luxury brands nickle and dime the hell out of dumb rich people, while the rest of us have more fun in affordable cars.

    • @kyunghunjung7542
      @kyunghunjung7542 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JohnLee-db9ztThe sound is a $500 option in Taycan.

  • @GuantanamoGG
    @GuantanamoGG 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +103

    dang when he hit the boost button and it went dead quiet... this car legit makes you forget its electric

    • @meCmoni
      @meCmoni 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      And it's that right there that's gonna get it sold. People want electric cars to not have to buy gas but not everyone wants a boring driving experience. Driving an electric car that makes you forget it's electric is a huge win.

    • @JazzTechie
      @JazzTechie 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah. Software update needs to maybe involve a hissing sound like compressed air coming out of a metal tank lol.

  • @cabra2365
    @cabra2365 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    I haven't played Gran Turismo for 15 years but the in-car footage gave me intense flashbacks! 😂 I kind of feel that I shouldn't like this car because it's fake, but actually it's been done so well and completely makes the experience, what's not to like? Tyre wear probably! 😂
    Well done Hyundai! 🏆

    • @긍정낙관
      @긍정낙관 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      심지어 차박까지 가능함

  • @raceboy1971
    @raceboy1971 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Matt, 1st off youtube has unsubscribed me from your channel for the 2nd time.
    Okay, got to drive this car as part of a focus group. As a former race driving instructor/racer, I kinda laughed at the gimmicks. Well, they aren't gimmicks. They are transformative and it's just as you said, the gimmicks give you a reference point that you just don't have otherwise in an EV. People used to CVTs won't care, but enthusiast drivers will 100% love it even though it actually makes the car slower.
    Everyone will have it in a year, but hats off to Hyundai for doing it first.

  • @johnjuiceshipper4963
    @johnjuiceshipper4963 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +569

    I just want an EV that’s fun. And this thing looks like a load of fun.

    • @Json918
      @Json918 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      That's a cute story, Now wait until the dealers gouge you for 85k+ for this "fun" you speak of and 1 year later its worth 35k

    • @Pccart1121
      @Pccart1121 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

      @@Json918Just wait a year then. Easy solution.

    • @larssonk22
      @larssonk22 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      @@Json918 cute story? Bro, lose the chip on your shoulder, you ain't cool. Have Hyundai's ever fallen victim to this type of price hiking??

    • @PigglyWigglyDeluxe
      @PigglyWigglyDeluxe 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      @@Json918you literally typed this exact comment in another thread, verbatim.

    • @Corgiking521
      @Corgiking521 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@larssonk22it’s starting at 66k msrp. Definitely be 85k before you walk out the door

  • @ErronKebabb
    @ErronKebabb 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    So right about having a reference point! And mimicking per-gear power curves!! Sporty driving in previous EV's used a lot of driver focus to connect your speed with where you are in the power range, this looks like it totally frees that focus up! Bravo Hyundai !

  • @Quietprofessional1
    @Quietprofessional1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Misha did a couple of really good laps on the nurburgring and this car is much faster than you would think

    • @drsnowmon
      @drsnowmon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      probably faster than 99% of cars on the road

    • @MotionBerlinR
      @MotionBerlinR 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Watch Ben P with his 5N on Nordschleife, you will love it, using
      N-paddle-mode

  • @Veyronp87
    @Veyronp87 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    N division is on top of their game, i am so impressed with all their cars.

  • @alex99398
    @alex99398 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've watched many of your reviews, and for me, this is BY FAR, the most entertaining one I've seen. It's so impressive what Hyundai has done in the package and agree...it's a pretty amazing bridge. Motor Trend labeled this 5N their EV of the year and it's not difficult to see why. 3 sec 0~60 approaches hypercar territory a few years back. Amazing stuff

  • @OutdoorPOV
    @OutdoorPOV 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Who would've thought Hyundai of all car manufacturers would be the ones to be leading the car enthusiast segment in the EV car segment!

  • @corysekine-pettite1783
    @corysekine-pettite1783 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I know this car moves the needle and puts everyone else on notice. So, from that perspective, I'm glad it exists. I don't think it's too far-fetched to say that for at least the last 5 or 6 years, Hyundai/Kia have become the automotive influencer that Mercedes used to be.

  • @plastiquemaraj8839
    @plastiquemaraj8839 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    If Hyundai keep doing stuff like this. They might become one of my fav car manufacturers

  • @Lobo_Argent
    @Lobo_Argent 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    A different way of describing it instead of saying that the car lies to you is: the car communicates with the driver in the enthusiast language. Using engine sounds and combustion engine traits.

    • @watch_kitty
      @watch_kitty 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can't agree any more!

  • @RadRaf
    @RadRaf 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I was looking forward to this review after hearing your enthusiasm on the PodCast. Didn't disappoint! Right on Hyundai for doing this! I hope their efforts go greatly rewarded!

  • @dan.r9220
    @dan.r9220 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +144

    It lies so good you thought you needed a cool down lap 😂😂

    • @cormblue
      @cormblue 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      Brakes/brake fluid, battery coolant, tyres. EVs are not free from the laws of thermodynamics xD

    • @cryingbug134
      @cryingbug134 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cormblue In Korea, there's 'INJE SPEEDIUM' race track. Many 5N owner say... After finishing one session at the 10% of battery state. they go to the charging station just beside the track and get charging around 80% in 18min., which is free only for 5N BTW, and then go back to track for another session. No thermodynamic issue so far.

    • @YTYTYTY7
      @YTYTYTY7 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      it has a mode that that prioritizes cooling. He probably didn’t even needed a cool down lap.

    • @sqlevolicious
      @sqlevolicious 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@cormblue They don't use brakes very often due to regen, and most EVs pretty much don't ever reach a temp that requires a slow down, that's only Tesla, lol.

    • @BradsHacks
      @BradsHacks 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@sqlevolicious As someone who has done laps on Sonoma Raceway in an EV and then put on the parking brake after 1 cooldown lap and still warped the rotor... I assure you that cooldown laps are helpful. You hardly use brakes in daily driving but on track, you use a lot. Regen only gets you about 0.5g of deceleration at best. The rest is brakes.

  • @0VikingCrown0
    @0VikingCrown0 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Been waiting on this one for a good while now. Did not disappoint in the least. Legitimately the only electric car to pique my interest since the original Model S debuted.

  • @paulhancock
    @paulhancock 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    The lack of history, heritage and tradition of brands like Hyundai really does work to their advantage in this era of EV's, allowing them to take wild design risks and 'gimmicks' which other brands just can't do for fear of damaging the brand.
    It's awesome to see them just having fun, making cars with a sense of humour and figuring out how to give electric vehicles character and personality. Good for them, I hope it's a big success.

    • @kin-cz9vu
      @kin-cz9vu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      lack of history? everyone is new to EV and actually hyundai is one of the leader in this paradigm shifting mobility. hyundai already has a high reputation regarding EVs and they can't do everything just for the gimmick. its all well thought out and planned

    • @Appletank8
      @Appletank8 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@kin-cz9vu I think OP meant lack of history in motorsports/sport cars

    • @pstarke1066
      @pstarke1066 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      This is a technology that is possible thanks to a great platform.
      Currently, other companies cannot do it even if they want to.
      And also only ioniq5n is capable of driving a track with cast iron brakes.

    • @nazmo_za9654
      @nazmo_za9654 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      actually, they poached the head of M engineering from bmw :) and they allowed him to have fun

    • @Inokea
      @Inokea 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Appletank8 although anyone who actually is into cars and Motorsports knows that Hyundai has been very involved and doing well in Motorsports for many years now.

  • @salvm4715
    @salvm4715 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This is legitimately the first electric car that I'm excited about. Absolutely a drivers car. Great video!

  • @supercarspr
    @supercarspr 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Reviewing one this week! Can't wait. Got a ride in one at the New York Autoshow and it was mind blowing. Driving it must be amazing!

  • @justinbecker4772
    @justinbecker4772 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    I appreciate that you short shifted on your cooldown lap to get Temps out of the engine. That's hilarious.

  • @TrashHeapCustodian
    @TrashHeapCustodian 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    you know what's absolutely wild, even viewing the video, it completely tricks me in to thinking it's a non-EV drivetrain, all the gear changes are all exactly where you expect them to be, the way the ramp up of the sound goes and especially how it sounds when you're a little sideways, it all feels 100% accurate as to how it would really act and sound, that's some real magic right there

  • @CLaFong
    @CLaFong 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This is like the most realistic video game console in the world. Bring it on, love it.

  • @emixmim
    @emixmim 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    This is the most exciting review of an electric car I've ever watched! Good job Mat!

  • @AllenHarrison
    @AllenHarrison 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    I bought a manual Elantra N in February and I feel affirmed in my decision lol If one day I have to turn in my dino juice car for an EV this will probably have to be the one!

    • @HondaTurboToys
      @HondaTurboToys 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm going on 3 years now with my 22 VN DCT, and it's still a joy every day. The Elantra seems a little extra spicy 🫶

    • @benmlee
      @benmlee 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But this is just an automatic. Need a fake third pedal and a shifter. Include valve clash noise as you over rev. Give us options to simulate torque curves and sound of classic sports car. Then it would be fun :)

  • @lemongavine
    @lemongavine 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This is the kind of car you can show off to your friends. So cool

  • @gianmarcorinaldi8247
    @gianmarcorinaldi8247 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    This gives me GREAT HOPE for the future of Enthusiast cars.

    • @bitkarek
      @bitkarek 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      it was a matter of time... i think there will be "manual" stick EVs.

    • @tyler9703
      @tyler9703 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@bitkarek Now that we have fake gears, I have no doubt we will have a fake clutch and shifter to go along with it eventually. Especially when cars like the Miata eventually have to go full EV

    • @sqlevolicious
      @sqlevolicious 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bitkarek Already happened! Toyota is coming out with one!

  • @RONderluck
    @RONderluck หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Picked mine up last week. Loving it so far. No issues with the hatch rattling like everyone else seems to have.

  • @chuckman000007
    @chuckman000007 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Agree, this thing looks awesome

  • @OmarZ77
    @OmarZ77 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +106

    Man, this smokes the new overhyped egg-shaped Model 3 Performance.
    Yeah it may be $10k more expensive, but it’s way more than $10k better.

    • @Michael-pi8ps
      @Michael-pi8ps 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Except this is $20,000(NOT including markup) more than a Model 3 performance, with 80 miles less of range and I don’t think it has access to Tesla superchargers

    • @OmarZ77
      @OmarZ77 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@Michael-pi8ps Model 3 P is $54k. This is $65k
      Not including the tax credit because Trump won’t renew it next year, and some don’t qualify for it to begin with.

    • @PigglyWigglyDeluxe
      @PigglyWigglyDeluxe 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@Michael-pi8pssomeone buying an ioniq 5N probably doesn’t care about range. The charging situation though I’m with you

    • @Json918
      @Json918 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      That's a cute story, Now wait until the dealers gouge you for 85k+ for this "fun" you speak of and 1 year later its worth 35k

    • @Pccart1121
      @Pccart1121 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@Json918So what? Wait a bit and buy used. Or lease if you get the right deal.

  • @tedseven1332
    @tedseven1332 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I tried it too and was totally amazed on how you easily forget it's an EV! Even the fake sound, that I find super fake when you do the stand still revving) turns out to be great when you start driving it! And yes, other car manufacturers will (probably) do this, but certainly not under $67k!

  • @BiffTannenBTTF
    @BiffTannenBTTF 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I never thought of going full on fake ICE with a manual transmission mode with an electric car. It’s inherently easy because of the regen, which can easily mimic downshifts etc.

    • @HondaTurboToys
      @HondaTurboToys 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I remember seeing a Honda that had paddles, but the downshift/- paddle was just a stronger regen, or it had different levels of regen... 🤔 it's the same concept 👌🏻and regen braking can absolutely be programmed to hit like a DCT downshift. What a time to be alive 😂

  • @steveo8424
    @steveo8424 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    This is super cool. Want. Can’t afford. But still want.

  • @jstein77
    @jstein77 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    At first I thought the fake shifting was really ridiculous and that if I owned it, I would turn it off. This video is making me rethink my position.

  • @goldenageofdinosaurs7192
    @goldenageofdinosaurs7192 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Just hearing you downshift into the corners put a huge smile on my face!

  • @antonarcane93
    @antonarcane93 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This thing rips! Add in the 10 year warranty and it’s a smokin good deal 🔥

  • @icky_thump
    @icky_thump 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    While the engine sound options are DECENT at least for immersion, it would be dope if Hyundai either pushed out OTA updates over time with more simulated engine sounds (like the 2.0T), or let users load in custom mod files via USB.

    • @I3OI3OJOA
      @I3OI3OJOA 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hyundai said it would be updated

  • @burningknuckle26
    @burningknuckle26 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The I5N is dope as hell. It checks all the boxes. 641 hp? Hyundai is not fuckin around

  • @jcwfh
    @jcwfh 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Being able to control weight transfer is what makes performance driving fun. To control weight transfer, you need to be able to slam G forces. It’s quicker to achieve weight transfer through rapid gearing steps than through micromanaging throttle. What Hyundai has done is utilized Regen as the mechanism for rapid G force changes. You also need feedback on the digital equivalent of the RPM set point, and there is no better feedback than sound, because sound is parametric. If it’s silent, you have no idea where it is. If you have to look at gauges due to absence of sound, then you can’t look at your path. We’re human, so sound is excellent for real-time feedback in performance driving.

  • @GlitterGuru
    @GlitterGuru 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    If it's anything like my RWD Ioniq 5, then that thing must LOVE going sideways

    • @CrazyWeeMonkey
      @CrazyWeeMonkey 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Similar experience with my AWD IONIQ 5, I get that thing transverse almost every time I drive it.

    • @GlitterGuru
      @GlitterGuru 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@CrazyWeeMonkey God forbid I accidentally turn on sport mode and give that free right hand turn a little too much pedal 😂

  • @TheDrivenDave
    @TheDrivenDave 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I really want to try one of these. You make it look like a lot of fun!

  • @recumbentrocks2929
    @recumbentrocks2929 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That was the best review of this Hyundai I have seen so far. I think Hyundai have just cracked the number one downer for many petrol heads who do not like EVs. This looks so much fun!

  • @robertorodriguez2911
    @robertorodriguez2911 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    love your reviews, you always describe the driving experience to where i almost know how it feels to drive. great car, having just left a hyundai dealer for a kia one, i feel like ill miss out on driving one of these

  • @PigglyWigglyDeluxe
    @PigglyWigglyDeluxe 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    My only gripe is the fake neutral revs sound very pixelated. Smooth out the revs and it’ll be perfect. Thats all in the software though for sure. Everything else is excellent

    • @CrArC
      @CrArC 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wish they gave us more than three options. So many settings in this car and you only get three pretty underwhelming soundscapes? Still an awesome idea, though.

    • @I3OI3OJOA
      @I3OI3OJOA 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@CrArCHyundai said they will update the sound later.

  • @mhouslay7281
    @mhouslay7281 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great video.
    Really feel the excitement.
    I was ready to write off the ‘gearshift and sound’ but they really did appear to work very well indeed.
    A lot of thought by good engineers and drivers has gone into that package hasn’t it.

  • @marksharman8029
    @marksharman8029 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yeah. When this was first introduced, I was skeptical. For reference, I have been driving since 1970, I do like EVs, I do have a history of enjoying driving. So, when I first saw this I was like - Ok - but what will it be like? Now I get it, or have from the first review I watched. I'm all in. Great concept, extremely well executed. This is brilliant.

  • @yooseemotoringchannel3357
    @yooseemotoringchannel3357 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    shouldve added F&F NOS sound when you hit the boost button lol

    • @Nightmarerhfan2011
      @Nightmarerhfan2011 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It actually kinda does lol. He just doesnt have ignition sound active with NGB active in this video for some reason. NGB gives the car a 1000 om higher simulated redline and the "engine" pitch gets higher and increases faster than without it.

    • @lordzed83
      @lordzed83 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      thats when tune map comes in hahaaha

  • @paulpak460
    @paulpak460 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow! What an awesome review and great driving Matt. Can't wait to pick mine up. The anticipation is killing me! Huge props to TST for for their genuine take on all things automotive. It's clear this is the go to channel as car enthusiasts. And huge kudos to Hyundai for building such a great car for people who actually like the act of driving. I'm convinced that this specific model will not earn them much money. It simply can't for the amount of work and tech they put into this crazy thing. And it's rare for the moment, so grab yours now before it follows the ludicrous GTR soaring price model.

  • @brendandrives
    @brendandrives 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Its funny that they chose those sounds, when they have the entire history of the combustion engine to choose from. Not a V10, not a twin turbo v8....a small displacement 4 cylinder. Ha!
    But seriously this looks like the most interesting EV...ever

    • @williamgechtman9287
      @williamgechtman9287 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      They chose the sound of an Elantra N. It was convenient.

    • @zxmurph1
      @zxmurph1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      keep it "in the family" to start.........then offer sound and torque curve "packs' to download in the future.......awesome!

    • @JohnLee-db9zt
      @JohnLee-db9zt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s only matter time

  • @philipstewart4474
    @philipstewart4474 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was unlucky enough to have owned a 86’ Excel and it worked but not that well and just look how far they’ve come since then. Impressive no matter where you look, arguably the BEST Thing on the market! Hats off Hyundai! 🚗

  • @adam69_
    @adam69_ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    The fake gears are absolutely stupid.
    Having said that, if I ever buy an EV, it’s gonna be the one with the fake gears.

    • @purplehazeffc
      @purplehazeffc 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Fake gears aren’t stupid. On track they help with carry max speed through corners. IE the Corkscrew, if you know it’s a 2 gear corner, you use the gears so you know when your in 2nd gear without needing to look at the speed your doing. The principle is exactly how it’s used in sim racing.

  • @Kingjay814
    @Kingjay814 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Honestly the only thing that will bring down this car is the dealerships sadly. I think for what this thing is capable of 66k seems pretty fair, I think you'd be hard pressed to find a "one car" solution for that price. 600hp AWD hatchback just doesn't really exist. Hyundai just went full fun factor and you gotta respect that.

    • @Nightmarerhfan2011
      @Nightmarerhfan2011 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      i called 4 dealerships until i found one that would sell me mine at msrp then they had wished they sold it for a 7500 upcharge because they didn't know what they had until it was on their lot but it was already too late because i put a deposit on it and had the paperwork in emailed documents for the OTD price and remainder owed. It's a fantastic EV and i have always been a ICE guy until this car.

  • @Kampfgruppe9260
    @Kampfgruppe9260 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The best EV in the World

  • @KevinFlory993
    @KevinFlory993 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am a Porsche snob, but hat's off to Hyundai for nailing it. This is something I would have expected from Porsche or Ford. This is the perfect example of a company looking for a disruption in the market and taking advantage of it. They don't have those customer currently to loose, so they went all out. This car will be a winner. They understand the customer base they are going for.

    • @rodismrnobody
      @rodismrnobody 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, I've owned 4 Hyundai products in the last 15 years so they do have customer's to Piss Off, but if other owners are like me then we are really enjoying the this takeover of the automotive industry.

    • @KevinFlory993
      @KevinFlory993 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@rodismrnobody Fair enough. I didn’t mean they didn’t have customers, just in that segment, it’s their market to take, not so much their market to loose. So they can take drastic steps and glad to see them do it. There is a big difference from building cars to understanding the customer and customer experience. Looks like an amazing car.

  • @givemeajackson
    @givemeajackson 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Give us an ioniq 3N that's i30 sized and i'm in! Doesn't need 600hp, 300 and a sense of humor is all it needs.

  • @bagsheeratrading
    @bagsheeratrading 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Man they've come a long way. Design is absolutely top tier and now this.

  • @Terrillthegreat79
    @Terrillthegreat79 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Hyundai in N, everyone else is Out. I wish my model 3 could give me that experience.

  • @paulkitchen5802
    @paulkitchen5802 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice! EV6GT owner waiting for this. Kona N owner as well who knows what N is about. First review that actually gives me a real enthusiasts take. Can't' wait to see The Smoking Tire one take. It takes a while to set car up but once it is dialed in, set it and forget it. Slight adjustments for particular track or road but I like adjustability.

  • @pherron7471
    @pherron7471 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    So basically, my motion simrig setup in real life, except I can't go back to the menu and pick a new car. So the Hyundai engineers are sim racers?

  • @Isomoar
    @Isomoar 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The boost buttons should have it's own special engine sound, something gnarly bassy sounding 😈😈

  • @hofahome
    @hofahome 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I want someone to hack it so you can choose different engine/exhaust sounds. Feeling like driving an F1 car through the gears? Got it. Supercharged V8? Yep. Big turbo 2JZ? Got that too. Please tell me I’m not the only one who thinks this would be fun

  • @bwarren228
    @bwarren228 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Han is eating his words: “You think I’m going to let you roll in a Hyundai?!”

  • @neilb6933
    @neilb6933 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Most excited I’ve seen Matt in a while. This looks like a blast.

  • @Mr318live
    @Mr318live 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    After driving a few Hyundai vehicles this year. I will finally say after years.....I would buy a Hyundai

  • @Lou-f
    @Lou-f 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sat in one over the weekend, and I have to say they got the driving position perfect arm rests are same distance and heights 👌🏻 would love to here how much of a difference the dynamag make.

  • @bryandickerson5365
    @bryandickerson5365 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I really wish Hundai would make a 3/4 scale “hot hatch” version of this!

  • @Hardcaslte
    @Hardcaslte 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've seriously been waiting for the U.S. reviews of this car, and it's not disappointing so far. This is exactly what every car enthusiast has been begging for, and somehow these high end companies couldn't figure it out. We want cars that we can shift (even if it has to be by paddles), and a car that engages us. Instead we get cars with one gear and it's basically you go or you stop, that's it.
    The only thing that I can't figure out is how they couldn't create a better engine sound. Sim racing companies have been doing this for years, and honestly small modding companies for sim racing have been doing it the better than the full crewed sim racing developers. So why couldn't Hyundai, after going through all of this work to make the first EV that they created specifically for car enthusiast, create an audio file that sounds like a real car?
    That's my only complaint. I have my Genesis G70 for now and I'm holding onto it as long as I can, but I really hope this type of EV becomes more common place for when it's time I have to make the change.

  • @Redswipe
    @Redswipe 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    These recent Hyundais are great looking cars.

  • @spdcrzy
    @spdcrzy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So TRUE surround sound simulation of engine noise, piped in from the appropriate speakers and mixed at the right decibel levels? Now THAT'S some serious simulation and engineering. And it makes sense why everybody loved it when it didn't make sense to me watching it over video.

  • @Richard--99
    @Richard--99 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    really enjoyed the video, very interesting approach a performance EVs

  • @tonyflorio3269
    @tonyflorio3269 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good middle step. I'd like the next phase to be sound design that provides feedback and engagement but also is authentic to an EV (no fake gears slowing it down).
    It will take a while to define what an enthusiast EV should be. Kudos to Hyundai for trying some new things, but this approach is always transitional -- I'm curious to see where we go once everyone gets used to driving EVs quickly.

  • @SpaceG95
    @SpaceG95 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Dodge: In 5 years we will have an EV with exhaust noise
    Hyundai: Hold that thought
    🤣🤣🤣

    • @E36Variance
      @E36Variance 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I mean... the Charger EV is supposed to start production within the next few months, so it's not like they're THAT far apart (considering that Hyundai hasn't actually started shipping these yet either). I live in the Detroit area and have seen plenty of pre-production test mules running around without camo, so they're obviously getting pretty close.
      Ultimately very different vehicles, however. The Charger is a bit of a behemoth, and I doubt it'll be setting any track records with its size and weight.

    • @sharkracer
      @sharkracer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@E36Variance The car went on sale 9 months ago in Korea, and it's been selling in the US for over a month now. Have they not started shipping in the US yet?

    • @E36Variance
      @E36Variance 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@sharkracer They have not. A quick Google search only finds "first impressions" from auto journalists in the US and Europe. I can find no signs that any cars have made it into customer hands yet.

  • @eliotsalandybrown
    @eliotsalandybrown 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ❤ Matt I learn so much about cars watching you push them to their limits 🙏

  • @dub88acc
    @dub88acc 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    20 min of track time is tough to deal with. These events are full day sometimes whole weekends. Charging time will definitely hinder some of that experience.

    • @johnteahan2333
      @johnteahan2333 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      20 mins is loads for a road car track day session, brakes and tyres are usually limiting factors more than fuel. And driver fatigue!
      If the track has decent charging you could probably do 6 sessions

    • @Panorama-memory
      @Panorama-memory 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most circuit sessions are 20 minutes. This is the limit at which the session will be closed. There are no vehicle restrictions.

  • @thejumbo
    @thejumbo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Saw one of these on the highway outside of Chattanooga today, and it looks tremendous. So cool.

  • @nwelsh84
    @nwelsh84 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The engine revs sounds like a noise WALL-E would make. "Wow!" *in robot voice*

  • @ramyanthony4615
    @ramyanthony4615 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I see being able to download an assortment of sounds and feels where you can make the car drive like a Porsche, a vette, a wrx or even an F1. The future of electric vehicles just got interesting

  • @myxrprecious8807
    @myxrprecious8807 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I heard that Hyundai finally captured Alien.

  • @antonioruiz1540
    @antonioruiz1540 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great hope for the future enthusiast cars!!

  • @samlucas7835
    @samlucas7835 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It would be super cool to see someone incorporate this tech into a drift car with a accurately simulated clutch

  • @MCoupeMike
    @MCoupeMike 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Every EV maker needs to go back to the drawing board and start over using the Ioniq 5 as a reference point. As a car/driving enthusiast, this is the first EV i am even remotely interested in. I don't care how fast it is, I just want a car that communicates with the driver.