All these artificial gear changes and sounds reminded me of fake meat products trying to look, feel, and taste like the real thing. Wouldn't you just rather have the real thing? I would, but I couldn't be further from Hyundai's target buyer.
모든 브랜드들이 전기차를 출시하는 것은 소비자들의 기호를 충족시키고자 하는 이유가 아닌 전 지구적재앙에 우리 인류가 할수있는 책임을 다하고자 이산화탄소 배출을 줄이고자 하는 자구책에서 나온 그 첫단계로 알고 있습니다.....당신의 자녀들을 위한 책임있는 부모로써 어쩔수 없는 시대의 변화라고 생각하시길 바랍니다.....저 역시 진짜 스테이크를 선호합니다 만....어쩌겠습니까....최대한 비슷한 맛을 내는 인스턴트 라도 즐겨야지요.
That isn't a good analogy in the first place, but it's based on a false premise. No, most people who eat fake meats WOULDN'T rather eat the real thing. For ethical reasons (among others), they either don't want to meat or participate in the exploitation of animals. Yet they still enjoy the taste and texture of meat, so fake meats are a way of not giving up everything that they used to enjoy while still staying true to their principles. But even that's not a good analogy for this car. It's a bridge between the old and the new, a way of enticing petrolheads to give EVs a try without having to give up everything that they loved about ICE cars. It's all about having fun, not necessarily being eco+ -friendly (even though that's still a side benefit). I've owned one for three weeks now and have loved every single minute that I've spent behind the wheel. I traded in my Focus RS and haven't regretted it for a moment. I love manual transmissions, and this lets me keep a taste of what I loved while still offering things that the RS couldn't do. It's nearly twice the horsepower, for God's sake. And for the record, my wife still owns an gas-powered SUV.
@@cabal3747 It's a great analogy. A TON of EV buyers don't want to drive gas-powered vehicles because of the social and ethical implications that come with burning fuel into the atmosphere. Yet (as you stated about some vegetarians), they still enjoy the texture, feel, and sound of a real engine, so fake engines are a way of not giving up everything that they used to enjoy while still staying true to their principles.
@@RoadsUntraveled Fair enough, but I still don't agree. That's because there's a wide spectrum of reasons why people don't eat meat, with the ethical treatment of animals only being one of them. Similarly, there are different reasons why people own EVs, and they don't always line up. They do in the instance that you mention, but that's only one set of possibilities. There are too many others for the analogy to hold. In my case, I don't eat meat, but for purely health-related reasons. I had a heart attack a couple of years ago and stopped eating most animal products to help keep my cholesterol low. I'm certainly sympathetic to the ethical treatment of animals, but outside of the heart attack, I'd still be eating meat. I bought the Ioniq 5 N purely for performance reasons. If I was willing to spend a bit more money, I'd have a V8 Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing instead, with a manual. I'm sympathetic to environmental issues, but I don't drive enough miles on a personal vehicle to make much of a difference. (My 7.5 year old Focus RS had only 19,000 miles on it.) People are buying EVs for practical reasons as well as environmental. People stop eating meat for different reasons. Outside of the scope of what you mention, it's hard to find a one-to-one correspondence between the two.
Aren't most affordable ice sports cars a watered-down, SIMULATED, version of a real sports car? They are nothing more than the end result of compromises from the concept car, track ready car to what hits the dealer lot. These too are loaded with tricks to trick you into believing it not than it actually is. Some pump fake engine noises (Golf R), most program the throttle to open 50%+ with only 20% pedal to make you think there is much more power on tap than actual. Some make the steering unnecessarily difficult as if to imply some extra control and stability over the normal suspension. It's all simulated. Do you play Forza/Gran Turismo or any other racing sim? Why? It's fake! Do the simulated engine noise deter you from enjoying the game? Would you be more or less effective if you turned the engine rev sounds off in game? You'd probably lap slower with sound off since you would lose audible reference to what gear you are in, and what speed you are entering a turn. The sound and simulated shifting motivates you to push it sort of in the same way turbo spooling sounds do. It is simply a great feature you can turn on and off. I like this kind of fake meat.
"Can they convert the real enthusiasts?" Yes, they can. I just traded in my 7.5 year old Nitrous Blue Focus RS for a Soultronic Orange Ioniq 5 N. And I traded in a Tangerine Scream Focus ST for the RS back in 2017. In other words, I've been driving manual hot hatches for a long time now. But I couldn't be happier with the switch. It's the best of both worlds. And like you guys, I end up laughing hysterically every time that I drive it. It's that much fun. You're right that it is bigger, but it doesn't look like it is. It's the TARDIS of hot hatches, hiding an SUV inside what looks like a hot hatch. Your have to stand right next to it to grasp how big that it is -- pictures are deceptive. But I'm getting older, so I appreciate the roominess, and it still drives like a bat out of hell with ICE hellhounds on its trail.
First, this is the only EV i would ever consider. Second...i got notes, because i did research this car a little bit: Size. The Kia EV6 GT isn't bigger than this; they are sister cars. While it photographs like a Golf the Ioniq 5 N is something that Hyundai would like you shop against CUVSs like the Tesla Model Y Performance. Weight. Yes, this is heavy, but context is king. The Audi RS6 Avant weighs more this, 4950 lbs to the Hyundai 's 4,861 lbs. What's more is that the upcoming BMW M5 Touring is going to be over 5000 lbs.
Beautiful photography of the changing season here on the wet coast. The interior - particularly the steering wheel - looks like some high end racing sim for a PC. In a holy crap that’s surprising way, not a cheap and cheesy way. The car is sure interesting, I wonder how other manufacturers will respond. Great review, thanks Marcus.
Opinions will vary, but I love the interior. It does have that high tech style, and yet it still looks and feels like it's a car. It's way better than the Spartan, sterile interiors on Teslas.
Such a great video. I've had my eye on polestar but I like what Hyundai is doing. I really dig the replication of a gearbox. I love the idea of a truly engaging electric vehicle despite not liking ev's much in general.
If your TH-cam stats show lots of people just watching the open bit.., then sorry it might be me.. been told I need to wait 12 months to get one.. just the 'better half' to convince and your video is gonna help me no end.. I vote for the 'rod-knock' firmware update too :)
It's amazing how I can agree with the overall premise of the review (Iconic 5 N, GREAT CAR), but from totally different mindsets. I do not currently, or plan to own an EV in the near future. But I can still look at the segment without blind bias or maybe even low-grade hatred to say something as ignorant as 'ALL EVs lack personality'. And throwing around 'real enthusiast' while showing lack of education on the product or segment. Yikes.
Up until recently tesla owned majority market share of evs in the states. Teslas have no personality. A polestar? Rivian? Sure. So while "all" is misconstrued, "most" would be true in many enthusiasts eyes. Hes entirely correct. Most "real enthusiasts" dont give a shit about evs seeing as they've not catered at all to them. This is the unraveling of that. You seem butthurt.
@@obomasinladen you seem to be projecting to reply to a random comment on TH-cam calling anyone butthurt. But maybe I'm wrong thinking user obomasinladen can speak for all of 'real auto enthusiasts'. Stay salty kid.
@@edwardgreenjr167 dude, are you a robot? I made a very clear and easy to understand comment and all you can pull out of it is “butthurt”. So point proven. You are a butthurt little boy. And I stated *most* enthusiasts don’t give a shit, not all so learn to read. Misconstruing a comment to craft your narrative over car enthusiasts liking Evs or not is comedic. Grow up
Still.. EV???? HELL NO! just NO in total... EV is wayyyyyy overrated and nowhere near the future... It is a prestige project from a small elite group and we are following like sheep
They tried EV’s before internal combustion and the obvious answer was internal combustion. It being pushed as “the future” is ridiculous. Leave it in the past where it belongs.
@@jayem8981 let me guess, you think EV’s are the future? Lift the ev mandates on car manufacturers and get rid of government subsidies and let’s see how they do against the tried and true options.
All these artificial gear changes and sounds reminded me of fake meat products trying to look, feel, and taste like the real thing.
Wouldn't you just rather have the real thing? I would, but I couldn't be further from Hyundai's target buyer.
모든 브랜드들이 전기차를 출시하는 것은 소비자들의 기호를 충족시키고자 하는 이유가 아닌 전 지구적재앙에 우리 인류가 할수있는 책임을 다하고자 이산화탄소 배출을 줄이고자 하는 자구책에서 나온 그 첫단계로 알고 있습니다.....당신의 자녀들을 위한 책임있는 부모로써 어쩔수 없는 시대의 변화라고 생각하시길 바랍니다.....저 역시 진짜 스테이크를 선호합니다 만....어쩌겠습니까....최대한 비슷한 맛을 내는 인스턴트 라도 즐겨야지요.
That isn't a good analogy in the first place, but it's based on a false premise. No, most people who eat fake meats WOULDN'T rather eat the real thing. For ethical reasons (among others), they either don't want to meat or participate in the exploitation of animals. Yet they still enjoy the taste and texture of meat, so fake meats are a way of not giving up everything that they used to enjoy while still staying true to their principles.
But even that's not a good analogy for this car. It's a bridge between the old and the new, a way of enticing petrolheads to give EVs a try without having to give up everything that they loved about ICE cars. It's all about having fun, not necessarily being eco+
-friendly (even though that's still a side benefit).
I've owned one for three weeks now and have loved every single minute that I've spent behind the wheel. I traded in my Focus RS and haven't regretted it for a moment. I love manual transmissions, and this lets me keep a taste of what I loved while still offering things that the RS couldn't do. It's nearly twice the horsepower, for God's sake.
And for the record, my wife still owns an gas-powered SUV.
@@cabal3747 It's a great analogy. A TON of EV buyers don't want to drive gas-powered vehicles because of the social and ethical implications that come with burning fuel into the atmosphere. Yet (as you stated about some vegetarians), they still enjoy the texture, feel, and sound of a real engine, so fake engines are a way of not giving up everything that they used to enjoy while still staying true to their principles.
@@RoadsUntraveled Fair enough, but I still don't agree. That's because there's a wide spectrum of reasons why people don't eat meat, with the ethical treatment of animals only being one of them. Similarly, there are different reasons why people own EVs, and they don't always line up. They do in the instance that you mention, but that's only one set of possibilities. There are too many others for the analogy to hold.
In my case, I don't eat meat, but for purely health-related reasons. I had a heart attack a couple of years ago and stopped eating most animal products to help keep my cholesterol low. I'm certainly sympathetic to the ethical treatment of animals, but outside of the heart attack, I'd still be eating meat.
I bought the Ioniq 5 N purely for performance reasons. If I was willing to spend a bit more money, I'd have a V8 Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing instead, with a manual. I'm sympathetic to environmental issues, but I don't drive enough miles on a personal vehicle to make much of a difference. (My 7.5 year old Focus RS had only 19,000 miles on it.)
People are buying EVs for practical reasons as well as environmental. People stop eating meat for different reasons. Outside of the scope of what you mention, it's hard to find a one-to-one correspondence between the two.
Aren't most affordable ice sports cars a watered-down, SIMULATED, version of a real sports car? They are nothing more than the end result of compromises from the concept car, track ready car to what hits the dealer lot. These too are loaded with tricks to trick you into believing it not than it actually is. Some pump fake engine noises (Golf R), most program the throttle to open 50%+ with only 20% pedal to make you think there is much more power on tap than actual. Some make the steering unnecessarily difficult as if to imply some extra control and stability over the normal suspension.
It's all simulated.
Do you play Forza/Gran Turismo or any other racing sim? Why? It's fake! Do the simulated engine noise deter you from enjoying the game? Would you be more or less effective if you turned the engine rev sounds off in game? You'd probably lap slower with sound off since you would lose audible reference to what gear you are in, and what speed you are entering a turn.
The sound and simulated shifting motivates you to push it sort of in the same way turbo spooling sounds do.
It is simply a great feature you can turn on and off. I like this kind of fake meat.
"Can they convert the real enthusiasts?" Yes, they can. I just traded in my 7.5 year old Nitrous Blue Focus RS for a Soultronic Orange Ioniq 5 N. And I traded in a Tangerine Scream Focus ST for the RS back in 2017. In other words, I've been driving manual hot hatches for a long time now. But I couldn't be happier with the switch. It's the best of both worlds. And like you guys, I end up laughing hysterically every time that I drive it. It's that much fun.
You're right that it is bigger, but it doesn't look like it is. It's the TARDIS of hot hatches, hiding an SUV inside what looks like a hot hatch. Your have to stand right next to it to grasp how big that it is -- pictures are deceptive. But I'm getting older, so I appreciate the roominess, and it still drives like a bat out of hell with ICE hellhounds on its trail.
First, this is the only EV i would ever consider.
Second...i got notes, because i did research this car a little bit:
Size. The Kia EV6 GT isn't bigger than this; they are sister cars. While it photographs like a Golf the Ioniq 5 N is something that Hyundai would like you shop against CUVSs like the Tesla Model Y Performance.
Weight. Yes, this is heavy, but context is king. The Audi RS6 Avant weighs more this, 4950 lbs to the Hyundai 's 4,861 lbs. What's more is that the upcoming BMW M5 Touring is going to be over 5000 lbs.
Beautiful photography of the changing season here on the wet coast. The interior - particularly the steering wheel - looks like some high end racing sim for a PC. In a holy crap that’s surprising way, not a cheap and cheesy way.
The car is sure interesting, I wonder how other manufacturers will respond. Great review, thanks Marcus.
It does have a bit of a sim feel to it. Thanks for stopping by!
Opinions will vary, but I love the interior. It does have that high tech style, and yet it still looks and feels like it's a car. It's way better than the Spartan, sterile interiors on Teslas.
you won't regret! this is amazing!
This is a BEAST as an electric sports car...😁👍🏻👌🏼😉
(Maximum) 641 horsepower for 10 seconds, otherwise (normal) about 609 horsepower. 😎
Never thought 5N was awkward or nerdy looking. It’s what VW should have done to its hatchback.
Such a great video. I've had my eye on polestar but I like what Hyundai is doing. I really dig the replication of a gearbox. I love the idea of a truly engaging electric vehicle despite not liking ev's much in general.
At this point there's just nothing else like it, simple as that! It's a huge edge on the competition but I'm sure that'll change soon.
If your TH-cam stats show lots of people just watching the open bit.., then sorry it might be me.. been told I need to wait 12 months to get one.. just the 'better half' to convince and your video is gonna help me no end..
I vote for the 'rod-knock' firmware update too :)
I just got a plane Jane Ioniq 5 SE. Plenty of fun driving this car, without all the video game add-ons.
my dude this was a really well done video-
I'll take it 🙏 Couldn't have done it without Frank 🎥
the first EV i would seriously consider
Great video. To me, my daily commute costs me around $600 a month. Looking for something saves $ and also fun to drive.
Your channel is my favorite car channel.
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It's amazing how I can agree with the overall premise of the review (Iconic 5 N, GREAT CAR), but from totally different mindsets.
I do not currently, or plan to own an EV in the near future. But I can still look at the segment without blind bias or maybe even low-grade hatred to say something as ignorant as 'ALL EVs lack personality'. And throwing around 'real enthusiast' while showing lack of education on the product or segment. Yikes.
Up until recently tesla owned majority market share of evs in the states. Teslas have no personality. A polestar? Rivian? Sure. So while "all" is misconstrued, "most" would be true in many enthusiasts eyes. Hes entirely correct. Most "real enthusiasts" dont give a shit about evs seeing as they've not catered at all to them. This is the unraveling of that. You seem butthurt.
@@obomasinladen you seem to be projecting to reply to a random comment on TH-cam calling anyone butthurt. But maybe I'm wrong thinking user obomasinladen can speak for all of 'real auto enthusiasts'. Stay salty kid.
@@edwardgreenjr167 dude, are you a robot? I made a very clear and easy to understand comment and all you can pull out of it is “butthurt”. So point proven. You are a butthurt little boy. And I stated *most* enthusiasts don’t give a shit, not all so learn to read. Misconstruing a comment to craft your narrative over car enthusiasts liking Evs or not is comedic. Grow up
that french guys pretty cool
Ok nothing beats hitting the clutch but if your driving an auto. I would rather just get this
Poles say that driving the K2 Black Panther is also fun.
Can you bang it in the rev limiter at standstill and go into first gear to launch it? Never saw a reviewer testing that. 😅
What's with all the spam bots in your comments
They are everywhere dude... there name usually has a few numbers at the end
Wish I knew.. waiting for a response from TH-cam but doubt they can do anything.
2-w22 la que se puede que oo o o en los niños se 2-e🎉🎉🎉😅😅😅😅😅
15:20 I think the menu it’s confusing and they need to make it easier, less Calculus 😅😂 .
There’s no integrals to solve. Just basic arithmetic. Wait are you American?
rod knock coming with software update 😛
If this had an ICE, I’d trade my WRX STI in towards one. Never going to own an EV though.
ruined the hot hatch market so badly that no one is buying an ioniq 5 N
21:46
You have to load battery up >80%
27% always be limited performance😂
Yeah haha we talked about this but it didn't make the final video. Just a quick unscientific test at the end of a long day of driving/shooting
It’s like a VW Golf the size of a school bus.
1:05 Tell that to SavageGeese who just roasted on the Ioniq 5n for being childish….. they better do a review on electric golf cars 😆😂🤣😅.
Mark from SavageGeese is just a staid, boring, grumpy old man
I stopped watching them. They're too picky about sports cars but fill their channel with family car reviews
Still.. EV???? HELL NO! just NO in total... EV is wayyyyyy overrated and nowhere near the future... It is a prestige project from a small elite group and we
are following like sheep
They tried EV’s before internal combustion and the obvious answer was internal combustion. It being pushed as “the future” is ridiculous. Leave it in the past where it belongs.
You two aren’t very bright are you?
@@jayem8981 let me guess, you think EV’s are the future? Lift the ev mandates on car manufacturers and get rid of government subsidies and let’s see how they do against the tried and true options.
It will be in the scrappers in 6 or 7 years.
Your hope.
가솔린 아웃...
친일파 ㅋㅋㅋ
We can all tell you never owned or driven an EV, let alone the 5N. 😂
@@JohnLee-db9zt very few will buy a 6 or 7 year old ev, so most of them will be in the scrappers.
⚡️최고의 영상미👍…구독 좋아요☘️
감사합니다! 우리는 노력합니다!