It's so nice to see people are still watching this. I've read all of the comments and it's cool to see everyone has their own perspective of it. Also shout out to this episode's art/animation director Tomoko Mori !!! she's extremely talented. Is there any other scene comparison you'd like to see? I'd like to make some more of them sometime :)
Gons voice actress does such a phenomenal job in this part, first he's silent not just that, he's speaking in a really uncomfortably chilling way, his anger shows but he talks so calm, shows no empathy and even interrupts Killua, his best friend. Her delivery is perfect eventually him giving into his rage
I think people are misinterpreting Gon’s reaction, of course in the manga it’s more meaningful since there, Kite is the reason Gon became a hunter, however, in this scene Gon doesn’t lose control because he just sees Pitou. He sees his enemy, who he thought was a monster up until that point, healing someone else. Even then you can see him angry, but emotionless, just wanting to get the job done, but it’s not until Pitou says “She’s someone precious to someone I care about deeply.” that he actually gets mad, and it’s because he sees himself reflected on Pitou. He realizes that Pitou is healing Komugi because if she doesn’t, she will never be able to forgive herself and face Meruem for not being able to save Komugi, which is the same reason why Gon’s trying to save Kite, not only because he’s his friends but because if he doesn’t, he won’t be able to forgive himself and face Ging. Someone like Gon who sees everything in black and white, seeing his enemy being in the same predicament as him and even acting mercifully, pushes his buttons and drives him to the edge. Sorry for the rant ooops
Gon is a hypocrite, selfish, naive, stubborn, reckless, impatient, closed-minded, stupid, super capricious, spoiled and greedy, but because he just never tasted the harsh reality in his entire childhood, especially from the perspective of someone weak... in fact, on the Island where he comes from, he never played with children his age and his only friends were literally animals, besides, almost all the adults on the Island did not really talk to him beyond the usual things of their lives from day to day, also on that Island, Gon always won because he not only had the innate talent, physical strength and power to do what he wanted and get it, always getting away with it, but also, as I said before, his vision of the The world is based only on power and not on reality as it is, besides that his adoptive mother never really told him any of the harsh truth outside that idyllic island and always let go and ignored the bad things Gon did, even the bad ones. more dangerous, no They put no limits or rules. With that upbringing and being a boy who wasn't brought up for "enough", it's not surprising that gon was so stubborn, selfish, self-absorbed, obsessed, impatient, spoiled and to top it all off, he talks back when things don't go his way... he seems like a good person, but this only happens when his first means and reaction to an adverse situation is surmountable and bearable enough for him... not because it is the safest or most intelligent or logical strategy, but because of that deep ignorance of to believe that EVERYTHING CAN BE SOLVED WITH KINDNESS (which, to top it off, is not even real in him) OR WITH WORDS OR WITH THE SUPPOSED NON-VIOLENCE and EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING WILL BOW AND MOLD TO HIS JOY, OPTIMISM AND HIS WHIM. The worst part is that this supposed kindness and friendship of Gon ONLY WORKS WHEN THOSE WHO FOLLOW AND ACCOMPANY THEM ARE NOT AN OBSTACLE FOR HIM. I vaguely remember that in the first few episodes, Gon helped one of the contestants in the exam, only to then blatantly steal her tag and get away with it. But why didn't he do it with the rest, like Killua or Leorio, for example, when he could just as easily do it with no problem for him, why did he only target her? Simple, because it suited him and his "so-called new friends" at that time were not a hindrance to him and his plans and objectives, in fact, that is precisely why they became real friends later, because they molded themselves to his whims and he believed that it would always be like this. And to make matters worse, it is that they forgave him only because the exam was made precisely to eliminate contestants and they believed that he did it only out of logic when in fact, he did it out of pure hypocrisy and absolute selfishness. He faced several assassins BUT HE ONLY ACCEPTED KILLUA as a friend and companion, he either ignored the rest or tried to kill or even minimally defeat... but you can see it's hypocrisy: he accepted Killua as a friend being a murderer, he faced to the Ghost Brigade and harshly criticized its members when one of them cried for his friend and partner but according to him, he had no right to do so because he was a murderer... But Killua was one too even though they weren't from the same group! and finally he thanked and forgave Binolt, a murderer worse than some members of the Ghost Brigade and he didn't even do it because he had redemption or not or because he judged him for his horrible acts of murder, he did it for convenience and because instead of being a hindrance, he helped him and for that reason alone he let him pass; As you can see, ALL THREE THINGS ARE WRONG AND HAVE NO HEAD OR FEET. that it did not revolve around what he thought and wanted, everything went downhill and "his great power" (because he unconsciously thought he was unstoppable) at those moments, COULD NOT SAVE HIM FROM THOSE SITUATIONS AND GET AWAY WITH IT, ... taught him that life is unfair and that his own actions, even the most apparently good, have consequences.
that’s what makes this scene so perfect. he wanted to fight and take his anger out on an emotionless monster, but pitou isn’t the same person he briefly met earlier (she had her own arc to go though) and his fragile psyche can’t handle that
@@dogmuncher_69 You, sir, have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. If you read Japanese you can see the manga delivers just as much emotion and even details that can't be delivered through the anime, like Pitou refering to Komugi as "this human", instead of "this person", which shows how Pitou feels about Komugi, making a clear distinction between her and the ants; or the fact that when Gon is repeating Pitou's words to himself they aren't even words to him anymore, just sounds, so he keeps repeating them trying to understand what they mean, to him it's unthinkable Pitou, this person he's been demonizing all this time, would ever help someone, or worse yet, be willing to give up her life doing so, that's how far gone Gon was and the manga portrays that absolutely beautifully.
Sadly people who only watched the 2011 version doesn't get why Gon is so angry as they did Kite dirty in the 2011 adaptation, literally omitting the first chapter of the manga where Kite appears, he is Gon first father figure and the very reason he became a hunter, and they removed all existence of Kite up until chimera ant arc, it felt very forced, seeing Gon like he didn't know Kite was very sad, meanwhile in the manga he was really happy to have met him again.
It doesn't add up if you actually ad up the amount of hours he's been with him its like 15 even for leorio or maby kurapika it wouldn't make any sense like the only characters it would make sense for is his aunt and kiĺua
@@hjiijui7145 Bruh Kite literally saved his life and was the person who give him hope for his father because it was Sayed to him that he died I mean Kite Is the first Character we get introduced to in the entire series and without him the history itself doesn't even exist He probably would have reacted the same way if it was Kurapika, Leorio or anyone else after all this Is the first Time in his life he faces someone he Loves dying PLUS he Is a kid, a kid with a license to kill and incredible amounts of destroying power
@@hjiijui7145 dude - kite was the reason why he started his journey the first place, he inspired him to become a Hunter and told him what a Hunter is and how to be one and encouraged him to enter the Hunter exam - he saved his life multiple times - he told him the truth ABT his father (been alive and a Hunter) after been lied to by his aunt , - he even gives him his father's. Hunter card - was the mentor and a father figure to him ,wing nd bisky where only teaching him nen and always keep their observations on his character to themselves , bisky was more of a mentor to killua than to Gon , while kite was trying to improve Gon mentally and try to develop him and teach him more abt life in general , that's why Gon grew even more attach to him . Then u tell me he shouldn't be angry? putting in mind that he blames himself for his death , and the fact that Pitou manipulated him
@@hjiijui7145 1. Kite is the reason Gon knows Ging is alive. He tells him when they meet. 2. Kite saves Gon's life. 3. He spent a few days with Kite in the woods while he was on Whale Island where Kite explained what Hunters are etc. 4. Kite is the reason Gon finds out Mito was lying to him his entire life. 5. Kite was the first Hunter Gon had ever met, his first father figure ever, and truthfully one of his first real friends (Gon was like 9 when they met). 6. Kite taught Gon the importance of life, and then in the future had his own life taken away in front of Gon's eyes. The first few episodes of Hunter x Hunter 1999 is honestly a must watch if you want to enjoy Kite's role in the Chimera Ants at all.
Gon’s arc is so phenomenal because it’s like the metaphorical embodiment of our unconscious being rebelling against the nuances of conscious observation. Gon retreats into his most base, primal, and one dimensional impulses. It is literally an evolutionary defense mechanism to project one-dimensionality onto our perceived foes. In some ways Togashi is exploring the curse of being human. The capability to involuntarily feel these impulses as well as the capacity to consciously agonize over them. He hates Pitou because he’s begun to see himself in her, and in the end he decides he doesn’t care whether or not he continues to live in a world in which she is permitted to be his equal. He's been compared to a wild animal or a beast numerous times across the story and with good reason. Child psychology final boss.
@@8BitGamer4life Thats because Togashi was drawing while battling a chronic illness that inhibits him from drawing. YYH injured him. HXH is killing him.
Yup, people need to realize that art doesn't necessarily need to be hyper-detailed, Togashi minimalism is more expressful than a lot of more detailed and realistic authors, less is more sometimes
Yea but that doesn’t mean the anime didn’t do the same honestly the anime did it better with that raw voice acting and how pure that animation that was
@@Luke-eo8dj "The anime did it better with the only thing Anime has that Manga doesn't" I think the anime was slightly better than the manga for this scene. But only slightly. The animation was meh, but the voice acting carried it. The 2011 version has a lot of issues with its framing of important events. That said, I still like the 2011 adaptation. But the 1999 adaptation is better for all intents and purposes as far as animation and scene framing goes (Also music but that's even more subjective). Just wish it got this far and didnt stop at Greed Island.
@@Xeno455 bro wdym the music and animation in the 2011 adaptation are great, there are definitely better scenes in the 1999 adaptation but overall the 2011 adaptation is better.
I'm the opposite. I feel like the anime was a lot more "I'm acting!" whereas the manga made me sympathize with each emotion. The manga just feels more realistic to me in how people express emotions
@@martinbaraldilobe3334 why not? Chimera ants were also a threat to humanity as a whole, and iirc, the hunter's mission was to neutralize this threat. The only thing wrong was that Gon was seriously considering harming/killing Komugi, an innocent bystander.
@@adityapathak5761 because it's clear gon is not there just to protect humanity, specially during this scene. All he cared about was bringing kite back.
@@rip1596 I don't know if you're joking or not, have you not watched the video? And did you just say it's normal to have breakdown like that, NORMAL? 😭
I love how much justice the anime does to the manga artistically, they’re both visually amazing Edit: god damn, if all of you guys in the comments here hate the manga artstyle so much, just watch the anime. You don’t have to shit on every little thing you don’t like. grow up, ffs.
You kidding? HxH Anime (at least 2011 version) got 100 times better art, the difference is maybe not as big as OPM with One original drawings and Murata redraws, but it's insane improvement. I wish Togashi would just let his wife or literally anyone who offered his help draw, because even when he was healthy his art was mediocre at best, and now it's straight up ugly(aside from maybe very few shots). He's great story teller but god, I'm tired of people praising his drawings, because his art style is straight up bad - it's not unique in any way (Like OP/Jojo or Soul Eater) and it's straight up ugly. Miura had fantastic art style and his chapters took so long because he was perfectionist and wanted to deliver best he could do, while Togashi will end the same way (not finishing his biggest work, passing away before he could), but with the reason being his gigantic pride that isn't letting him get someone else to draw, even if his art was just "meh" in his prime & right now it's worse than lowest effort hentai art.
@@aggression4457 Well, I do care about Togashi not finishing Hunter x Hunter. So, if he doesnt feel right drawing he could just let someone else draw while he prepares the story. For me its not something related to his art, its just that I would love to see the end of hxh
I just think it's amazing how both the manga and the anime are different, but in a good way. Like the Manga shown emotion in the way Manga can, and the anime used the things anime can to show the emotion, both different, and good. So interesting.
What I love about mange that imo almost no anime can do is the still panels, like the one where Killua has this expression of pain after gon told him it doesn't matter to him. Manga art really does the best here and I love how in the anime they used a shot with Manga aesthetic
Killua's expression here is one of the best panels Togashi has drawn. The profound sadness he feels when Gon tells him that he's not involved and how they separate at the end of the Election Arc is pretty heartbreaking.
I think all childhood friendships, especially between best friends, have this single defining moment. A child is simple, undeveloped. It's possible to meet someone and almost instantly become friends or even the best of friends. Differences seem minor, and you can almost think with one mind. You share everything with each other, and feel no threat from each other. But a moment inevitably comes sooner or later when paths diverge, where two friends find themselves reacting completely differently to the same problem or challenge, both adamant their way is correct. And suddenly, the child must defend themselves from the person they never thought to be attacked by, and the simple nature of that friendship is gone forever. This doesn't mean the friendship is over by any means, or that it can't be enriched by these differences and grow even stronger, but it can never be the simple naive innocent trust it was before.
I have to hand it to the animation studio for this show. They completely killed it on the visuals. Not only are the fight cinematics top tier, but they captured the thoughts and emotions of the cast flawlessly. I don't know if this show will ever come back, but if it does, I hope we get the same amazing quality that made this show such a massive hit
It truly is amazing work done by the animation studio. They've added so much detail where none was there. In such an emotional scene where timing is also super important. They filled the time between the panels so well. I absolutely love how at 3:58 he stumbles backwards. He's so furious it's disorientating. I also have to add, I absolutely love the manga panel at 6:18. Everyone knows that period after an outburst where you've regained composure but you're just NOT okay. Such a real moment, I never expected Hunter X Hunter to be so incredibly nuanced looking from the outside in. It looked like another goofy shonen a la naruto/one piece. But man, was it so much more mature and detailed than I thought.
😂 yeah madhouse never animated more than 12-24 episode seasons. Then they signed up for this Shit. They absolutely killed it. After that they never animated another series that long again. They fell from top studio as well.
I truly love Togahi's artstyle. We all know that he doesn't put his best on every drawing, because his actual ability is way higher than what he actually draws, but he manages to make everything so loose and dynamic without being everything 100% well drawn. It's really cool in my opinion. Specially with some facial expressions and shadows.
Look at the facial expression at 3:46. That is so wonderful and chaotic. Gon is really having a hard time processing this. If you cover one half of his face, you can see more clearly what is going through Gon's head.
Imagine. Just Imagine. Having to witness, firsthand, your father-figure die. Gon was probably thinking "How is this fair. What makes her special. Why does she get special treatment?" This is scarily realistic since at one point I did think like this (at around 12 years old too! Where mood swings and emotional instability is completely normal.) Unlike Killua, who has experienced slow-burn trauma, Gon had a big, heavy, out of the blue trauma. Imagine Killua being hit by a 3 rocks everyday for 1000 days vs Gon being hit by 3000 rocks all at once in the span of 10 seconds. If I think of it this way then I can really see why Gon was angry and Killua was calm. And the fact that Pitou is healing a human shows that it does in fact have sympathy, *so why didn't it show sympathy for Kite? Why make him into some doll plaything experiment?* I just LOVE these types of stories. Where you can see both sides' motivation for their wrongs. Yes, Gon was wrong to lash out his anger, but he can't help it. Yes, Pitou was wrong to be so unfair, but she can't help it. Not everyone can be perfect and that's what I think was beautiful in this scene.
Glad someone here typed it out, this is such a good way to show how Gon's perspective of the ants, or I guess Pitou specifically, totally changes. The way his expression alters at 3:50 really shows how his world just completely shattered here. He was so deadset on killing her and to see her healing this girl he doesn't know is the most frustrating and unfair scenario possible for him. But he now knows that killing Pitou here would put an innocent person in danger so he's ultimately left in turmoil
I've watched this episode so many times because is one of my favourite! I've read tons of comments on TH-cam some were funny other were serious. But yours is one of the very few that really understood the big picture here. How Gon fetl about Pitou, Killua, Komugi, Kite. Your analysis was beautiful and I thank you for sharing these thoughts ❤️ I wish a great day
Pitou doesn’t have sympathy. She could give fuck all if that girl died. The reason why she did this much to heal her is because the king said so. The only love she has in her body is for the king. She lives and breathes for the king, she was born for the king. Because he told her to heal komugi, that’s why she’s willing to put her life at stake to save her
@@Jl-qg5xz the art-style is way more polished and colorful, miss most of the grimness of the original. Then terrible adaptation choices in the first arcs (not including Kaito, Hisoka first apparition, Killua vs Jones and more), but at least on that they did better with chimera ants arc
They showed the emotion PERFECTLY, but it sucks that the anime did Kite like this. Would've been a lot more impactful to anime-only's (like I was myself) and I wouldn't have been so confused to why Gon acted so emotional to Kite's death.
I'd say gons reaction is like that of a kid promising to take care of their pet then have it killed and run over by a truck in front of them, but amplified to 1000x
I thought of it as gon saw how kite protected him and partially blamed himself for kite dying/losing his arm. Seeing someone, even if you don't know them very well, lose their arm for you would be impactful for everyone.
@@heezyyyy they're saying the anime skipped a big chunk of the story that involved Kite. So to anime viewers, he wasn't there long enough to make Gon's reaction make sense, but in the manga he was with them for quite some time
@@prismatic9804 I keep seeing people say this but they clearly show that kite met and saved gon when he was a child as well, if someone you barely knew was so selfless to constantly help others no matter what like kite was and you indirectly cause their death, well I felt like Gons reaction was completely justified even as just an anime viewer myself
such a shitty ass comparison. i made that face when i wanted to kill my bullies as a teenager but felt bad knowing it was a bad thing to do and the frustration of that contradiction filled me with absolute rage.
@Nigward Testicles i mean, let me tell you something, anime style is so good and consistent wich is not the case with Togashi or Kishimoto drawing from the start to the end. They actually have to replicate it because it save time and its good overall
This scene represents very well that gon is a actually a child. He isnt a person who has a good grasp of good and bad, he actually judges selfishly. That's why he is so friendly to bad people unless they hurt one of his friends
more like unbiased. Doesn't mean childish. Are you sure you only love people who are good? Are you sure you just don't ignore what they do? Or yourself?
As someone who has never read or seen Hunter x Hunter, this is both confusing, but also chillingly beautiful. I love the style of the manga, and the anime. I’m tempted to read it or watch it
Its one of the best anime ive watched its up there with One piece, Gintama, FMAB and Monogatari series even though u got spoiled by this video is still Amazing when u watch it
appreciate the praise but, you've really done yourself a disservice watching this scene before knowing what's actually going on and who these characters are.
@@spacesomeone I disagree. I learned what happens to gon in the chimera ant arc and I actually found it beneficial to my watching experience. Because I knew that gon would become so unhinged, I was super vigilant for the signs and it really help me immerse myself in Gon's character. I was incredibly curious as to how gon at the beginning could become the gon at the end of chimera ant.
This whole scene has touched me so deep back in 2014. Gon's VA has outstanding talent, she voices his emotions so well that I can't believe someone who's watching this doesn't get to feel them. This is what makes me proud to say that HxH is my top 1 anime.
@Solar. its not even a jp thinng, just a voice acting thing in general. Hiring kids to play kids is always tricky due to the fact that they obviously won’t be as easy to order around compared to an adult. But even the kids that ARE good va’s, the second issue comes in the form of puberty, especially for the boys. Being able to maintain a consistent voice is kind of part of what being a voice actor is all about. Ntm how fast kids age and how long and short reccording sessions can be. There’s something pretty “unfun” about trying to get a kid to record a line and their voices just can’t help cracking, or if they go from sounding like Cailou to jotaro kujo in the middle or a season in the span of only a few weeks (which notoriously happens a lot) Casting grown women is just much easier and cost effective. But not even really “women” per-say, just people with higher/lighter pitched voices as adults t ne to have more range overall but especially when it comes to characters and things with higher pitched. That just happens to be women usually. Tons of women have deep voices tho, so they’re not naturally a fit all the time. Tons of men non-binary actors with higher pitched voices (while rarer) tend to also voice a lot of kid characters as well. The best example that comes to mind is yuki kaji. He voiced both the jp roles of itty bitty baby boys like Koichi hirose from jojo and Nishikata from takagi san But has also been Eren fucking Jaegar this entire time Mfs got P I P E S 💀
That’s so cool u really wish I could speak Japanese lmao. Btw were the English texts an accurate translation of what pitou gon and killua in Japanese in the video?
@@suzukisatoru4701 Fuzaken na is mistranslated as “That’s crap” or “That’s just crap” which lessens the impact of the actual meaning. Fuzaken na is Japanese for “Are you fucking with me?” or “Are you fucking kidding me?” It’s way harsher sounding than just “That’s crap”. Yes, Gon dropped a whole F-bomb. Not once, but twice. You don’t expect it, so it comes as a surprise ngl.
@@thewanderingstruggler8601 I'm attending a japanese course, it's really interesting to learn about the language, not just for anime but also the rich culture japan has. Through watching anime I kinda developed not a skill but I'd say I memorized words and sentences and now when I watch anime I can partly actually understand certain (if only few to very few) words or even sentences. I'm only 3 basic lessons in, we did kore sore are, basic conversation stuff like dozo and more and rn koko, soko and asoko. I'm really excited to learn more about the language and I hope that in 2 or 3 years I can have a pretty basic conversation in Japanese
@@thewanderingstruggler8601 Not necessarily. The translation is still accurate, just blunted because Crunchyroll subs tend to avoid using the F word whenever possible. ふざけるな has many different translations depending on its intensity, although I do agree it should've been more intense than "That's crap" in this case.
Hate how everyone calls Gon unhinged for reacting the way he does and mercilessly killing pitou. She beat, tortured, then killed kite, just to then turn him into a fucking puppet. She did that to his friend and mentor. Besides that, above all else he’s still a child, not that it’s an excuse, but he isn’t exactly at the age where he’d be emotionally mature anyhow. Even if he wasn’t a child it’s entirely understandable to feel rage and sorrow to the extent of wanting revenge at the death of a loved one.
pitou was something like a week old when he killed kite? the decisions he made at the start of his life have the same moral weight of an actual ant wiping out a nearby termite colony. but he goes thru his own arc and the current pitou is much more human. anw gon has always been inconsistent and selfish, but he's meant to be this way and i think his reaction was well written
THANK YOU! I hate how everyone acts like Gon is crazy for wanting to kill the thing that turned his father figure into a puppet, as if nobody else would want to do that
This is the best animated scene in the anime to me. I love the way they used his facial expressions. Also, this being the first time I’ve seen the original manga’s version, it’s pretty damn good. The way I’d put it is that the manga is more raw, and the anime is more intense.
As a humanist this scene is profound. It depicts a special moment in many people's lives where, after suffering at someone else's hands mercilessly, they gain power over them and are immediately faced with the responsibility of what to do with that power. Sometimes with the former tormentor begging for mercy. Some people are baffled at the audacity of their tormentor, some people refuse to show mercy, and others acquiesce all-too-soon and almost hand the power back over to their opponent. Each reaction reveals volumes of that person's nature. Those that are baffled or confused learn that not all humans have empathy or can imagine what it's like in someone else's shoes. Then they have to choose to forgive or not based on this deficiency. Can their opponent change? Or are they hopeless... Those that refuse to show mercy are complicated. Do they themselves lack empathy? Do they understand the true nature of their tormentor? Or perhaps they don't care... Finally, those that forgive too quickly and rush to return to "normal". They can be the strongest of us all, but they are frightfully naive. For them, it might be a lifetime of struggles ahead of them...or they may end up in an uncomfortable position of leadership before they realize it. Being strong enough to take power from the greedy, but not wishing to possess or abuse that power often defines our greatest leaders, who historically never asked to be put in charge. So who is Gon? He clearly has empathy. He cries first for Kite, second for Pitou mutilating herself to protect a helpless other, and third for himself as he corrupts his innocence and becomes aware that life isn't black and white. The knowledge that his tormentor isn't a two-dimensional bad guy that can be smashed before everyone goes back to normal, the responsibility of what to do with this villain who has shown some humanity...the weight crushes him and forces him to change, to grow up. He denies this growth at first and decides "It must be some deceit, I'm killing her now." But when his friend Killua intervenes and stops him, it forces him to accept the truth...and so he lashes out with his passive aggressive comment about it being "easy for Killua". Gon's bitterness comes from a loss of innocence that puts him in a state of shock. While Killua's worldview is unchanged before Gon's comment, receiving a verbal backhand from his closest ally is itself an instigator of growth for Killua. The cocktail of shame for not being as passionate about this as Gon is, humiliation at being insulted by Gon, and outrage at being betrayed by such an attack from his nakama forces Killua's worldview to violently shift to accomodate the new knowledge that Gon has changed, and things might never be the same. The knowledge that he may have to defend himself emotionally from Gon puts Killua into a softly bitter, disappointed state of shock that is an echo of Gon's own. These are the tolls life exacts from us. We are protected and given hope, and then silently left to one day, eventually, discover the truth on our own.
I will get a lot of enemies by saying this but gon's rage feels so much more genuine. Maybe it's cuz it's.. you know.. a moving picture with sound and color but sheesh i can feel his hatred way more
I bet if togashi upon release of manga had as much budget as the anime, it could have been little bit more expressive. Other than that, yeah, anime is amazing with this one.
@@LooneyClipse Budget has nothing to do with it. It only really (still barely) applies to an anime production because that means more staff of higher caliber to get on the production, but with a manga, the production is solely on the mangaka and his assistants. The main thing that would cause a manga to have lesser quality than usual, would be time constraints, health problems, and burnout. For Togashi it's been mainly the thrid one because he had been struggling with ailments for decades.
The character animation on Gon was so fenomenal in this scene. The twitching the facial expressions acting. And the way they used the composition and camera movements to translate the manga so well into the language of cinema. This was a truly great adaptation.
@@mexlilaofoda8864 still i cant forget how madhouse butchered gon vs hanzo, gon vs hisoka etc., this fights were much mire realistic and better excecuted in 99 over 2011, that fight gon vs hanzo from 2011 just looked like fight for very early teens with heavily cencorship, little to no chararacter acting, changed crucial plot points from the fight, much worse atmosphere, i could go on and go on with the list that people know 2011 changed for the much worse
Yeah no, 2011 version > 1999 version, it's just very trendy to hate on the modern version but the hisoka fight was better in the newer version, animation, color and audio design are miles better in the 2011 version, the only point that i would give to the 99 version is directing and ambience
Still love the rawness in the manga. The way he alternates his strokes from clean to sketchy to reflect the minute differences between levels of tension is simply stunning. Even his panel usage and dialogue boxes add up to the overall feel. Kirua's subtle facial expressions, Neferpitor's desperation and Gon's rage and confusion was clearly expressed. I got chills when I read this the first time.
It's so much more artistic than the adaptation indeed. The anime does a stunning job at all the other stuff, but the shots and overall graphical work is nowhere as impactful
This literally shows that emotion is human's greatest strength and weakness. With enough love and compassion you could become like an angel and with enough hatred and anger you could become a monster.
@@armandomendoza1991 Be warned it’s not for everyone. First of all, the characters are the biggest problem. In my opinion they are amazing but for some people they are irritating. The dialogue is weird too. Secondly, the story is confusing and slow. Steins;Gate is simple, but because they messed up the first episode the entire plot feels confusing. The story kicks at episode 9 btw. There are only 25 episodes. Steins;Gate and Steins;Gate 0 are seperate series that are meant to be watched together on rewatch and not together on the first watch. (Look up the guide for that). Finally, I can talk about the story. It’s just a unique time travel story. (I don’t want to spoil any further)
@@mehcky dang.. to be honest, sounds really interesting. Thank you, I will definitely give Stein's Gate a try. So far (Hunter X Hunter) is #1 and (Attack On Titan) is #2 and last, but not least....(JUJUTSU Kaisen) is #3.. now I just gotta check the Stein's Gate that you mentioned.
Actually, Togashi is pretty lazy tho, some of the chapter, before his arthritis are weird looking. But yeah, his Arthritis is pretty bad for the manga art.
@@aikoice845 because it's weekly not monthly published, he draws detailed manga pages and it takes months to complete and since they wanted to publish the manga weekly, this is hard for Togashi since planning up the panels layouts, shots and composition take like forever to complete so he illustrated it rushed and not laziness
Yusuke Murata's One Punch Man is an example of a monthly published manga since it contains beautiful shots, detailed composition and great paneling page by page
Aesthetically speaking, I can understand the “manga > anime “ at times. In regards to this scene, the manga drove home certain emotions better but the anime also has these 1 up moments. This is an all time scene for me. Gon’s va was otherworldly. This scene is special beyond words. This changed my whole perspective on “childish shonen” or whatever anime use to be called back then.
The way the anime is word-to-word with the manga panels astonishes me so much. It's like reading subtitles looking at the manga while listening to the JP dub.
This is a powerful scene. You can see Gon having a crisis. Pitou is appealing to his humanity to spare her until she's done the surgery but Gon just can't wrap is head around that given his rage over kite and the fact that pitou is an Actual murderous monster. They don't make shonen / seinin like this anymore. I loved this arc. It contrasted the humans and ants.... Ants starting to show human tendencies and the humans beginning to show monsterous tendencies
This what I love in hxh this is what you don't see Often in shonen. The mc is not sum typical hero, he's a protagonist like everyone else. Being selfish, Violent & Special like any other individual.
Omg i love the concept i had never realized how beautiful the manga style was ! The character spread the same emotions but I received them more personally in the anime.
This scene is one of the best of all time in terms of presenting characters in a difficult situation. Gon’s rage scene is my favorite presentation of human anger in any anime.
漫画の表現力神がかってるよな 書き込みが凄い訳でもないシンプルな書き方だからこそ緊迫感とかキャラの感情が直接伝わってくる アニメも凄い再現度だけど冨樫はやっぱ天才やと再認識した 漫画の表現力神がかってるよな The expressive power of the manga is amazing, isn't it? It's not that the writing is amazing, it's the simple style that conveys the tension and the emotions of the characters directly. The anime is a great reproduction of the manga, but Togashi is a genius, I realized again.
The art style is simple yet it conveys so much emotion in just a few lines, sometimes when there is too much detail in a scene the expressions and action of the characters can be lost in the background so I personally like A LOT how much the style fits the tension here, not saying the anime is less or anything like that, anyone can tell how greatly adapted hxh is, but for me, thiss scene really hits in the manga in a different yet still strong way
I saw a video essay that explains this. The author has to really know what he is doing To simplify his drawing to that extent and not destroy any details he wants to convey
This will hands down always be my favorite scene from the entirety of Hunter x Hunter, so much tension, raw emotion, and excellent story telling is shown here. Gon is at his breaking point and it’s here more than ever that we are reminded no matter how powerful he trains to get, he’s just a kid who doesn’t have control over his emotions and irrational decisions. He’s quite literally throwing a tantrum he’s so frustrated and confused by Pitou's actions, the voice actress perfectly portraying just how fucked up he's became in his quest to save Kite that he’s completely forgotten about the mission itself. The extent of Pitou’s loyalty is as impressive as it gets for her too. I know she can and in fact does just heal herself afterwards but it doesn’t change the fact she put herself through that much pain just to do what the King ordered her to do for his happiness. She was willing to go through so much more too. All in all, this is such an expertly crafted and heartbreaking scene. I’m personally an anime guy over manga so I of course enjoyed the anime adaptation more. (I honestly only tend to read a manga if there’s only a manga or the story isn’t concluded in the anime but the manga is) Even from an objective point of view, I like it more though. Poor Killua man, if only he could tell Gon and get through to him he was only trying to protect him from himself and jeopardizing the mission.
I really like how Togashi's linework becomes looser in intense scenes, but I have to give this round to Madhouse. The extra stuff they add (like making the characters more expressive, and even subtle changes to the composition) gives it an edge.
Togashi nails this beautifully. No matter how tough and straight-minded we are, at the end of the day, losing someone very close to you can bring out the worst in us
What you mean the worse? He held back and didn't do anything to her ... He kept his composure and showed even if he loses someone close... He can be talked into peace which is total BS... I'm so tired of this forgiveness shtick going on.... So no, I think it's the complete opposite ... Gon did not let out his worse.. in fact, he showed weakness... And gave into killuas weak thinking
The manga is incredible as is the show. Though the show did the manga dirty by omitting kite like they did. Otherwise, this is what makes a great anime. Not changing a scene, BUT ADDING TO IT. Instead of boringly copying everything from the manga with stills and nothing much more.
you just really see the care and attention the animation team put into the scene like filling out the blanks between pages as naturally as this makes me appreciate hunter x hunter even more even doe we´re never gonna see hisoka vs chrollo animated.
Truly one of the most mesmerizing, captivating scenes I've seen in ainime. Hands down. They took the tension you see in the manga and amplified it by a thousand. Well done. 👏🏼
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It's so nice to see people are still watching this. I've read all of the comments and it's cool to see everyone has their own perspective of it. Also shout out to this episode's art/animation director Tomoko Mori !!! she's extremely talented.
Is there any other scene comparison you'd like to see? I'd like to make some more of them sometime :)
what are your thoughts on the latest chapter dude?
@@moisesranideltorres5266 it was interesting how much happened just in one chapter
@@gemmt yeah, the arc is shaping up to be one of my favorites already.
I’m so glad *HxH is still alive lol*
I never really got into the hxh manga should I read it ?
Gon: I'm Ok now.
The narrator: He was definitely Not OK.
Man you made me laugh like I haven't laughed before thank you very much 😂
So accurate
Accurate bro. I really wish we got more Hxh content right?
The narrator: He's Okn't
*guitar bump it up an sunny adventure theme
Gons voice actress does such a phenomenal job in this part, first he's silent not just that, he's speaking in a really uncomfortably chilling way, his anger shows but he talks so calm, shows no empathy and even interrupts Killua, his best friend. Her delivery is perfect eventually him giving into his rage
Wait... actress? Her?
@@DeltaCantGame young boys are often voiced by women in anime
@@DeltaCantGame yeah, didn't you know that young boys are mostly to always voiced by females
Well today I learned that much
@@DeltaCantGame kurapika and killua are voiced by women too i think
I think people are misinterpreting Gon’s reaction, of course in the manga it’s more meaningful since there, Kite is the reason Gon became a hunter, however, in this scene Gon doesn’t lose control because he just sees Pitou. He sees his enemy, who he thought was a monster up until that point, healing someone else. Even then you can see him angry, but emotionless, just wanting to get the job done, but it’s not until Pitou says “She’s someone precious to someone I care about deeply.” that he actually gets mad, and it’s because he sees himself reflected on Pitou. He realizes that Pitou is healing Komugi because if she doesn’t, she will never be able to forgive herself and face Meruem for not being able to save Komugi, which is the same reason why Gon’s trying to save Kite, not only because he’s his friends but because if he doesn’t, he won’t be able to forgive himself and face Ging. Someone like Gon who sees everything in black and white, seeing his enemy being in the same predicament as him and even acting mercifully, pushes his buttons and drives him to the edge. Sorry for the rant ooops
Late reply but great analysis
very insightful writeup
Gon is a hypocrite, selfish, naive, stubborn, reckless, impatient, closed-minded, stupid, super capricious, spoiled and greedy, but because he just never tasted the harsh reality in his entire childhood, especially from the perspective of someone weak... in fact, on the Island where he comes from, he never played with children his age and his only friends were literally animals, besides, almost all the adults on the Island did not really talk to him beyond the usual things of their lives from day to day, also on that Island, Gon always won because he not only had the innate talent, physical strength and power to do what he wanted and get it, always getting away with it, but also, as I said before, his vision of the The world is based only on power and not on reality as it is, besides that his adoptive mother never really told him any of the harsh truth outside that idyllic island and always let go and ignored the bad things Gon did, even the bad ones. more dangerous, no They put no limits or rules. With that upbringing and being a boy who wasn't brought up for "enough", it's not surprising that gon was so stubborn, selfish, self-absorbed, obsessed, impatient, spoiled and to top it all off, he talks back when things don't go his way... he seems like a good person, but this only happens when his first means and reaction to an adverse situation is surmountable and bearable enough for him... not because it is the safest or most intelligent or logical strategy, but because of that deep ignorance of to believe that EVERYTHING CAN BE SOLVED WITH KINDNESS (which, to top it off, is not even real in him) OR WITH WORDS OR WITH THE SUPPOSED NON-VIOLENCE and EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING WILL BOW AND MOLD TO HIS JOY, OPTIMISM AND HIS WHIM. The worst part is that this supposed kindness and friendship of Gon ONLY WORKS WHEN THOSE WHO FOLLOW AND ACCOMPANY THEM ARE NOT AN OBSTACLE FOR HIM. I vaguely remember that in the first few episodes, Gon helped one of the contestants in the exam, only to then blatantly steal her tag and get away with it. But why didn't he do it with the rest, like Killua or Leorio, for example, when he could just as easily do it with no problem for him, why did he only target her? Simple, because it suited him and his "so-called new friends" at that time were not a hindrance to him and his plans and objectives, in fact, that is precisely why they became real friends later, because they molded themselves to his whims and he believed that it would always be like this. And to make matters worse, it is that they forgave him only because the exam was made precisely to eliminate contestants and they believed that he did it only out of logic when in fact, he did it out of pure hypocrisy and absolute selfishness. He faced several assassins BUT HE ONLY ACCEPTED KILLUA as a friend and companion, he either ignored the rest or tried to kill or even minimally defeat... but you can see it's hypocrisy: he accepted Killua as a friend being a murderer, he faced to the Ghost Brigade and harshly criticized its members when one of them cried for his friend and partner but according to him, he had no right to do so because he was a murderer... But Killua was one too even though they weren't from the same group! and finally he thanked and forgave Binolt, a murderer worse than some members of the Ghost Brigade and he didn't even do it because he had redemption or not or because he judged him for his horrible acts of murder, he did it for convenience and because instead of being a hindrance, he helped him and for that reason alone he let him pass; As you can see, ALL THREE THINGS ARE WRONG AND HAVE NO HEAD OR FEET. that it did not revolve around what he thought and wanted, everything went downhill and "his great power" (because he unconsciously thought he was unstoppable) at those moments, COULD NOT SAVE HIM FROM THOSE SITUATIONS AND GET AWAY WITH IT, ... taught him that life is unfair and that his own actions, even the most apparently good, have consequences.
Youre right fr
that’s what makes this scene so perfect. he wanted to fight and take his anger out on an emotionless monster, but pitou isn’t the same person he briefly met earlier (she had her own arc to go though) and his fragile psyche can’t handle that
Gon’s voice actress nailed this scene had me really feeling Gon’s pain and anger just from the voice acting
Yea bcuz its
The animation also adds a lot to it
@@dogmuncher_69 not because it is paper. Like there are a whole lot of manga where the emotions are captured very beautifully.
@@dogmuncher_69 You, sir, have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. If you read Japanese you can see the manga delivers just as much emotion and even details that can't be delivered through the anime, like Pitou refering to Komugi as "this human", instead of "this person", which shows how Pitou feels about Komugi, making a clear distinction between her and the ants; or the fact that when Gon is repeating Pitou's words to himself they aren't even words to him anymore, just sounds, so he keeps repeating them trying to understand what they mean, to him it's unthinkable Pitou, this person he's been demonizing all this time, would ever help someone, or worse yet, be willing to give up her life doing so, that's how far gone Gon was and the manga portrays that absolutely beautifully.
wait wdym actress WHAT
Sadly people who only watched the 2011 version doesn't get why Gon is so angry as they did Kite dirty in the 2011 adaptation, literally omitting the first chapter of the manga where Kite appears, he is Gon first father figure and the very reason he became a hunter, and they removed all existence of Kite up until chimera ant arc, it felt very forced, seeing Gon like he didn't know Kite was very sad, meanwhile in the manga he was really happy to have met him again.
It doesn't add up if you actually ad up the amount of hours he's been with him its like 15 even for leorio or maby kurapika it wouldn't make any sense like the only characters it would make sense for is his aunt and kiĺua
@@hjiijui7145 Still, Gon was unstable and dangerous the entire series, he just needed a little push to snap, and this was it.
@@hjiijui7145
Bruh Kite literally saved his life and was the person who give him hope for his father because it was Sayed to him that he died
I mean Kite Is the first Character we get introduced to in the entire series and without him the history itself doesn't even exist
He probably would have reacted the same way if it was Kurapika, Leorio or anyone else after all this Is the first Time in his life he faces someone he Loves dying
PLUS he Is a kid, a kid with a license to kill and incredible amounts of destroying power
@@hjiijui7145 dude
- kite was the reason why he started his journey the first place, he inspired him to become a Hunter and told him what a Hunter is and how to be one and encouraged him to enter the Hunter exam
- he saved his life multiple times
- he told him the truth ABT his father (been alive and a Hunter) after been lied to by his aunt ,
- he even gives him his father's. Hunter card
- was the mentor and a father figure to him ,wing nd bisky where only teaching him nen and always keep their observations on his character to themselves , bisky was more of a mentor to killua than to Gon , while kite was trying to improve Gon mentally and try to develop him and teach him more abt life in general , that's why Gon grew even more attach to him
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Then u tell me he shouldn't be angry? putting in mind that he blames himself for his death , and the fact that Pitou manipulated him
@@hjiijui7145
1. Kite is the reason Gon knows Ging is alive. He tells him when they meet.
2. Kite saves Gon's life.
3. He spent a few days with Kite in the woods while he was on Whale Island where Kite explained what Hunters are etc.
4. Kite is the reason Gon finds out Mito was lying to him his entire life.
5. Kite was the first Hunter Gon had ever met, his first father figure ever, and truthfully one of his first real friends (Gon was like 9 when they met).
6. Kite taught Gon the importance of life, and then in the future had his own life taken away in front of Gon's eyes.
The first few episodes of Hunter x Hunter 1999 is honestly a must watch if you want to enjoy Kite's role in the Chimera Ants at all.
Gon’s arc is so phenomenal because it’s like the metaphorical embodiment of our unconscious being rebelling against the nuances of conscious observation. Gon retreats into his most base, primal, and one dimensional impulses. It is literally an evolutionary defense mechanism to project one-dimensionality onto our perceived foes. In some ways Togashi is exploring the curse of being human. The capability to involuntarily feel these impulses as well as the capacity to consciously agonize over them. He hates Pitou because he’s begun to see himself in her, and in the end he decides he doesn’t care whether or not he continues to live in a world in which she is permitted to be his equal. He's been compared to a wild animal or a beast numerous times across the story and with good reason. Child psychology final boss.
last sentence took me out, you're so right
Manga started publishing in 1998, but this chapter (275) originally released in 2008.
And this episode (116) released in 2014.
Sorry for the mistake.
It is more like a "misunderstanding" instead of a "mistake"
Don't worry it's not your fault
Did you take the scans of the volumes or of the chapters? Because togashi remade the drawings every time he released a volume
you should pin this
@@fabricci04 It's both
@@nomenbeb5747 Facts
Alot of people like to downplay Togashi's art in the manga, but personally I've always loved how free and loose it looks throughout
You also can’t really expect someone to have consistent art
Togashi makes Kubo look like a Saint when it comes to backgrounds.
@@8BitGamer4life Thats because Togashi was drawing while battling a chronic illness that inhibits him from drawing.
YYH injured him.
HXH is killing him.
Yup, people need to realize that art doesn't necessarily need to be hyper-detailed, Togashi minimalism is more expressful than a lot of more detailed and realistic authors, less is more sometimes
@@gto462 I absolutely agree, togashi’s expressions are amazing. That’s why the anime reflected them so well IMO
I do like alot how gon expressions in the manga aren't just anger, but also genuine disgust and confusion/questioning. The anime does it well too.
IKR Especially at 3:51
ngl in the anime its almost like u can feel the emotions from gon
U spelt manga wrong
Yea but that doesn’t mean the anime didn’t do the same honestly the anime did it better with that raw voice acting and how pure that animation that was
@@Luke-eo8dj "The anime did it better with the only thing Anime has that Manga doesn't"
I think the anime was slightly better than the manga for this scene. But only slightly. The animation was meh, but the voice acting carried it.
The 2011 version has a lot of issues with its framing of important events. That said, I still like the 2011 adaptation. But the 1999 adaptation is better for all intents and purposes as far as animation and scene framing goes (Also music but that's even more subjective). Just wish it got this far and didnt stop at Greed Island.
@@Xeno455 bro wdym the music and animation in the 2011 adaptation are great, there are definitely better scenes in the 1999 adaptation but overall the 2011 adaptation is better.
@@prochacho3750 Doesn't matter when the manga is the best
I liked how much more dramatic it is in the anime, for example the nen circling around gon
I'm the opposite. I feel like the anime was a lot more "I'm acting!" whereas the manga made me sympathize with each emotion. The manga just feels more realistic to me in how people express emotions
@@desty4030 ok fanboy
@@desty4030 L
@@desty4030 because your reading the dialogue in your head while the anime is voice acted. Duh.
The art in the manga is inferior
Guys it's just his opinion, some prefer anime others prefer manga, and nothing is wrong with that
音楽もない、声もない、色すらない、それでこんなにキャラの感情が伝わって来るから本当にすごい
Togashi is a real genius
無音だからこそ
People either want Pitou fucked up or hate on Gon. Imo both of them are totally justified here, which it what makes this such a brilliant scene.
I don’t think gon is right but I laughed when he beat the hell out of Pitou.
Gon is a victim of Kite's death, but revenge is not justified. Still, an amazing scene.
@@Real_fr-ong yeah. Pitou was just thinking her species was the best
@@martinbaraldilobe3334 why not? Chimera ants were also a threat to humanity as a whole, and iirc, the hunter's mission was to neutralize this threat. The only thing wrong was that Gon was seriously considering harming/killing Komugi, an innocent bystander.
@@adityapathak5761 because it's clear gon is not there just to protect humanity, specially during this scene. All he cared about was bringing kite back.
Seeing Gon lose every bit of humanity left in him is so terrifying to see
On the other side the villain turning more human. That's why it's a masterpiece.
Yeah it's even more scary knowing his character
I hate when someone says he losing his humanity. He's only 12 and it's normal to having a breakdown like this. He's just getting revenge.
@@rip1596 I don't know if you're joking or not, have you not watched the video? And did you just say it's normal to have breakdown like that, NORMAL? 😭
@@rip1596 cool
5:51 ここの口元の変化だけ見せた後で、覚悟決めた様な目を描くあたりの表現マジで凄いな
全部を描ききってるように見せて細部にちゃんと余韻があるのが最高の漫画ですなぁ
魅せ方が本当に上手いよね
分かりやすいし
I love how much justice the anime does to the manga artistically, they’re both visually amazing
Edit: god damn, if all of you guys in the comments here hate the manga artstyle so much, just watch the anime. You don’t have to shit on every little thing you don’t like. grow up, ffs.
You kidding? HxH Anime (at least 2011 version) got 100 times better art, the difference is maybe not as big as OPM with One original drawings and Murata redraws, but it's insane improvement.
I wish Togashi would just let his wife or literally anyone who offered his help draw, because even when he was healthy his art was mediocre at best, and now it's straight up ugly(aside from maybe very few shots). He's great story teller but god, I'm tired of people praising his drawings, because his art style is straight up bad - it's not unique in any way (Like OP/Jojo or Soul Eater) and it's straight up ugly.
Miura had fantastic art style and his chapters took so long because he was perfectionist and wanted to deliver best he could do, while Togashi will end the same way (not finishing his biggest work, passing away before he could), but with the reason being his gigantic pride that isn't letting him get someone else to draw, even if his art was just "meh" in his prime & right now it's worse than lowest effort hentai art.
@@nocebo5792 Tbh we do not care.
@@nocebo5792 we do not care
@@nocebo5792 damn man. I don't think anybody asked? 🤣 Art is Art I fuckin love it
@@aggression4457 Well, I do care about Togashi not finishing Hunter x Hunter. So, if he doesnt feel right drawing he could just let someone else draw while he prepares the story. For me its not something related to his art, its just that I would love to see the end of hxh
アニメの方が迫力あるのに、漫画の方が感情がよく伝わってくる
冨樫マジですげぇよ
漫画に追いつくためにアニメはキャラデザ崩さない範囲で最高の作画してる
原作の補完する演出も入れてる。すげぇわ
アニメの方が多方面からアプローチできるけど、漫画の方が表現が自由なんだなぁとも思った。
(アニメは背景書込むし、絶対色塗るし、言葉がある以上時間がかかるし、原画の状態では成立しないし)
嫁の絵だもん
表情に関してはアニメは原作の劣化版と言われても仕方がないほどに漫画原作の表現力はすごい
@@ゼルダテトラ 嫁のえなわけねぇだろ
@@Gipsy_King_is_HETAREセーラームーン読んだことある？爆笑
あえて表情を見せないで読み手に想像させる構図すごくいいと思う。キルアの表情だけのコマ、どんな言葉より説得力をもつ表情で本当にすごいと思う。アニメのゴンの声優さんの演技もすごいと思う。すげーよハンターハンター
アニメもすごいんだけど声もBGMもなしでイラストだけで全部伝わる富樫はやっぱりすげえなと思う。
I just think it's amazing how both the manga and the anime are different, but in a good way. Like the Manga shown emotion in the way Manga can, and the anime used the things anime can to show the emotion, both different, and good. So interesting.
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What I love about mange that imo almost no anime can do is the still panels, like the one where Killua has this expression of pain after gon told him it doesn't matter to him. Manga art really does the best here and I love how in the anime they used a shot with Manga aesthetic
I guess you could say very bad art makes the tone dark lol
@@dontbother9473 I wouldn't say the Art is bad
@@dontbother9473 rather than bad, its more like extremely simple, kinda like a few webtoons
Killua's expression here is one of the best panels Togashi has drawn. The profound sadness he feels when Gon tells him that he's not involved and how they separate at the end of the Election Arc is pretty heartbreaking.
they promised to reunite in the future tho
I think all childhood friendships, especially between best friends, have this single defining moment.
A child is simple, undeveloped. It's possible to meet someone and almost instantly become friends or even the best of friends.
Differences seem minor, and you can almost think with one mind. You share everything with each other, and feel no threat from each other.
But a moment inevitably comes sooner or later when paths diverge, where two friends find themselves reacting completely differently to the same problem or challenge, both adamant their way is correct.
And suddenly, the child must defend themselves from the person they never thought to be attacked by, and the simple nature of that friendship is gone forever.
This doesn't mean the friendship is over by any means, or that it can't be enriched by these differences and grow even stronger, but it can never be the simple naive innocent trust it was before.
That sad expression of killua just tell me that he doesn't fell enough to help his friend, but he is enough, it's just gon that is an asshole.
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@@MH3RaiserBro u should be a writer. U just beautifully described a part of my life which i still struggle and feel guilty... what a monologue
5:45
ここの距離感の表し方がすごい好き。アニメならではの表現。
蟻編でマジでキルアが1番の主役ってくらい好きになった
敢えてここでは表情を映さずメレオロンの『だったらなんでお前あんなに悲しそうな顔してたんだよ！！』で顔を映すのほんと凄い
I have to hand it to the animation studio for this show. They completely killed it on the visuals. Not only are the fight cinematics top tier, but they captured the thoughts and emotions of the cast flawlessly. I don't know if this show will ever come back, but if it does, I hope we get the same amazing quality that made this show such a massive hit
It truly is amazing work done by the animation studio. They've added so much detail where none was there. In such an emotional scene where timing is also super important. They filled the time between the panels so well. I absolutely love how at 3:58 he stumbles backwards. He's so furious it's disorientating. I also have to add, I absolutely love the manga panel at 6:18. Everyone knows that period after an outburst where you've regained composure but you're just NOT okay. Such a real moment, I never expected Hunter X Hunter to be so incredibly nuanced looking from the outside in. It looked like another goofy shonen a la naruto/one piece. But man, was it so much more mature and detailed than I thought.
😂 yeah madhouse never animated more than 12-24 episode seasons. Then they signed up for this Shit. They absolutely killed it. After that they never animated another series that long again. They fell from top studio as well.
@@Madhawk1995Don't insult HxH
@@ihatehumans487he was complementing 🤨
@@ihatehumans487That show has my name twice, so terrible
繊細な表情がめちゃくちゃ上手いですよね。キルアの気持ちがめちゃくちゃ伝わってくる
The way togashi explored and captured human nature this arc is beautiful
Togashi is back! Bois!
声優の方々の魂が籠った一言一言 聞いてるだけでそのキャラクターの心境や感情が色濃く伝わってくる...すごすぎる
関係ないから…のところのキルアの寂しそうな表情の書き方があまりに上手い
I truly love Togahi's artstyle. We all know that he doesn't put his best on every drawing, because his actual ability is way higher than what he actually draws, but he manages to make everything so loose and dynamic without being everything 100% well drawn. It's really cool in my opinion. Specially with some facial expressions and shadows.
He's like a Japanese frank Miller
His art style kinda suck, but his stories are sick
@@luisfilipe2747 well tbf he does have a chronic back illness
@@luisfilipe2747 i don't think Togahi's art style sucks. It's different and clearly less detailed than others, but i find it amazing anyway.
Look at the facial expression at 3:46. That is so wonderful and chaotic. Gon is really having a hard time processing this.
If you cover one half of his face, you can see more clearly what is going through Gon's head.
@@xela4854 and the anime version did it soo well too
作画もそうだけど潘さんの演技がすげぇ
原作、キャラの心情が一コマ一コマからひしひしと伝わってくるの凄い
後にこの「関係ないから」発言についてキルアから「あの時は傷ついたなーｗ」的な弄りでの復讐がまってるんですよねぇ、
しっかり回収しててすき
Imagine. Just Imagine.
Having to witness, firsthand, your father-figure die. Gon was probably thinking "How is this fair. What makes her special. Why does she get special treatment?" This is scarily realistic since at one point I did think like this (at around 12 years old too! Where mood swings and emotional instability is completely normal.)
Unlike Killua, who has experienced slow-burn trauma, Gon had a big, heavy, out of the blue trauma.
Imagine Killua being hit by a 3 rocks everyday for 1000 days vs Gon being hit by 3000 rocks all at once in the span of 10 seconds. If I think of it this way then I can really see why Gon was angry and Killua was calm.
And the fact that Pitou is healing a human shows that it does in fact have sympathy, *so why didn't it show sympathy for Kite? Why make him into some doll plaything experiment?*
I just LOVE these types of stories. Where you can see both sides' motivation for their wrongs. Yes, Gon was wrong to lash out his anger, but he can't help it. Yes, Pitou was wrong to be so unfair, but she can't help it. Not everyone can be perfect and that's what I think was beautiful in this scene.
Glad someone here typed it out, this is such a good way to show how Gon's perspective of the ants, or I guess Pitou specifically, totally changes. The way his expression alters at 3:50 really shows how his world just completely shattered here. He was so deadset on killing her and to see her healing this girl he doesn't know is the most frustrating and unfair scenario possible for him. But he now knows that killing Pitou here would put an innocent person in danger so he's ultimately left in turmoil
I've watched this episode so many times because is one of my favourite! I've read tons of comments on TH-cam some were funny other were serious. But yours is one of the very few that really understood the big picture here. How Gon fetl about Pitou, Killua, Komugi, Kite. Your analysis was beautiful and I thank you for sharing these thoughts ❤️ I wish a great day
Very well laid out. This should be the top comment.
Well said.
Pitou doesn’t have sympathy. She could give fuck all if that girl died. The reason why she did this much to heal her is because the king said so. The only love she has in her body is for the king. She lives and breathes for the king, she was born for the king. Because he told her to heal komugi, that’s why she’s willing to put her life at stake to save her
漫画見た事無かったけどすげーな
白黒の静止画なのにめっちゃ感情とか伝わるじゃん
Anime > yet they both seem different and perfect in a way
anime really did well captured the micro expressions Gon had, but manga just pure madness, feels like he was too ready to kill Pitou.
2011 anime lower the target of the series a lot and miss all the atmosphere. It is technically good, artistically terrible
@@gto462 how?
@@Jl-qg5xz ignore him people just love shitting on animes for whatever reason since their eyes always glued to the mangas perspectives
@@Jl-qg5xz the art-style is way more polished and colorful, miss most of the grimness of the original. Then terrible adaptation choices in the first arcs (not including Kaito, Hisoka first apparition, Killua vs Jones and more), but at least on that they did better with chimera ants arc
They showed the emotion PERFECTLY, but it sucks that the anime did Kite like this. Would've been a lot more impactful to anime-only's (like I was myself) and I wouldn't have been so confused to why Gon acted so emotional to Kite's death.
I'd say gons reaction is like that of a kid promising to take care of their pet then have it killed and run over by a truck in front of them, but amplified to 1000x
I thought of it as gon saw how kite protected him and partially blamed himself for kite dying/losing his arm. Seeing someone, even if you don't know them very well, lose their arm for you would be impactful for everyone.
Well you wouldn't get to see those emotions from Gon if Kite wasn't dead
@@heezyyyy they're saying the anime skipped a big chunk of the story that involved Kite. So to anime viewers, he wasn't there long enough to make Gon's reaction make sense, but in the manga he was with them for quite some time
@@prismatic9804 I keep seeing people say this but they clearly show that kite met and saved gon when he was a child as well, if someone you barely knew was so selfless to constantly help others no matter what like kite was and you indirectly cause their death, well I felt like Gons reaction was completely justified even as just an anime viewer myself
20年以上前の作品なのにいつ見ても斬新でクソおもろいってほんと天才としか言えない
登場人物がそれぞれ自分の大切なモノの為に必死に戦っている
会話の流れの中で揺れ動く感情の起伏、その圧倒的な表現力
これこそハンターハンターの真骨頂だと思います
アニメ版は演出の良さや声優の熱演も相まって最高でした
最高速度でしたね
こんな面白いのにベルセルクの二の舞だけは避けてほしい
声優も作画も神すぎる
I like how Gon still looks like a kid in the manga
I remembered making this faces because I'm pissed at my cousins for stealing and destroying my toy
such a shitty ass comparison. i made that face when i wanted to kill my bullies as a teenager but felt bad knowing it was a bad thing to do and the frustration of that contradiction filled me with absolute rage.
@@alexucon wtf?
@@alexucon …what?
All the other kids with the pumped up kicks better run better run...
@@alexucon edgy
3:43 ここのゴンの顔、ほんと天才だと思うわ
一番好きな表情だわ。怒りと悔しさでどうすればいいのかわからない感情の捌け口を見失った感じが
I like the hunter hunter manga but the anime’s style is amazing
Story wise.
HxH is already great with simple Art style. And the anime make it even more great.
togashi literally start copying the art style from the 2011 anime, u can see in the evolution of the art since 1999 to 2018
@Nigward Testicles It might just be their art style changing/evolving naturally over time. Keep in mind they’re drawing a long-running manga weekly
@Nigward Testicles i mean, let me tell you something, anime style is so good and consistent wich is not the case with Togashi or Kishimoto drawing from the start to the end. They actually have to replicate it because it save time and its good overall
@@kyleh1494 yea, thats why they replicate anime style, because it's easier and consistent wich is actually a good factor for a mangaka
This scene represents very well that gon is a actually a child. He isnt a person who has a good grasp of good and bad, he actually judges selfishly. That's why he is so friendly to bad people unless they hurt one of his friends
more like unbiased. Doesn't mean childish. Are you sure you only love people who are good? Are you sure you just don't ignore what they do? Or yourself?
saw that youtube video too. its fantastic.
As someone who has never read or seen Hunter x Hunter, this is both confusing, but also chillingly beautiful. I love the style of the manga, and the anime. I’m tempted to read it or watch it
Yeah I definitely recommend it.
It's well worth the time
Its one of the best anime ive watched its up there with One piece, Gintama, FMAB and Monogatari series even though u got spoiled by this video is still Amazing when u watch it
appreciate the praise but, you've really done yourself a disservice watching this scene before knowing what's actually going on and who these characters are.
@@spacesomeone I disagree. I learned what happens to gon in the chimera ant arc and I actually found it beneficial to my watching experience. Because I knew that gon would become so unhinged, I was super vigilant for the signs and it really help me immerse myself in Gon's character. I was incredibly curious as to how gon at the beginning could become the gon at the end of chimera ant.
HUNTER×HUNTERのキメラアント編はこうやってメルエム(それを取り巻くキメラアント)が絶対悪っていう負から人間に近い正に近づいていってそれと対照的にゴンは純粋な正義という正から復讐を目的とした負に近づいていく感じが最高
めちゃくちゃ最高で完璧な表現でこのコメント好きすぎる
復讐は負なんですか...？
完璧とは言えませんねぇ
@@SECRET-qs3vk 復讐が負なんじゃなくて復讐に固執するが故に「次ゴタゴタ言ったらそいつを殺す」とか言うくらいダークサイドに寄っちゃうってことよ
結局完璧ってこと
@@SECRET-qs3vk 復讐が悪とまでは言いませんが正義からはかけ離れているし、ネガティブなマインドなんじゃないですか？
改めて思い知らされる音も色もなく白と黒でここまで表現出来る冨樫先生の実力。
しかもラフ画
わっけわっかんねぇぇぇぁぁぃぁぃ
冨樫先生に勝る人なんて出てこねぇんじゃぇぁかぁぁあ
@滝永啓介 どう間違えてるんですか？教えて貰ってもいいですか？
@滝永啓介 単純な疑問なんだけど、「どうしてここをこういう風に描いたのか」って冨樫本人が明言してるん？
別の方向性の芸術だってことは確かやな（？）
4:23壊れた人間の描き方が天才的すぎるわ…これが1998年に描かれたってマジかよ
いや、アリ編の開始は2003年だしこの動画の表記が間違ってるような…
実際にこのシーンが描かれたのは2010年代。でも80年代連載の幽遊白書で既に壊れた人間のえがきかたが天才(幽白のおかげで集英社はビルを建て替えた)
アニメの演技も素晴らしいけど、冨樫先生の描く表情も迫真で最高
こう見ると漫画は言わずもがなアニメもすげえかっこいいカットだな
漫画の方の臨場感やばいな。冨樫の表情の付け方や雰囲気の出し方が上手過ぎる。
This whole scene has touched me so deep back in 2014. Gon's VA has outstanding talent, she voices his emotions so well that I can't believe someone who's watching this doesn't get to feel them. This is what makes me proud to say that HxH is my top 1 anime.
I felt bad for my boy so much
She? I honestly thought they had a little boy voice acting him. Impressive.
@@souka9598 i mean the trio in hxh's protagonist is a female. That is Kurapika, killua and gon
@Solar. its not even a jp thinng, just a voice acting thing in general.
Hiring kids to play kids is always tricky due to the fact that they obviously won’t be as easy to order around compared to an adult.
But even the kids that ARE good va’s, the second issue comes in the form of puberty, especially for the boys. Being able to maintain a consistent voice is kind of part of what being a voice actor is all about. Ntm how fast kids age and how long and short reccording sessions can be.
There’s something pretty “unfun” about trying to get a kid to record a line and their voices just can’t help cracking, or if they go from sounding like Cailou to jotaro kujo in the middle or a season in the span of only a few weeks (which notoriously happens a lot)
Casting grown women is just much easier and cost effective. But not even really “women” per-say, just people with higher/lighter pitched voices as adults t ne to have more range overall but especially when it comes to characters and things with higher pitched. That just happens to be women usually. Tons of women have deep voices tho, so they’re not naturally a fit all the time.
Tons of men non-binary actors with higher pitched voices (while rarer) tend to also voice a lot of kid characters as well.
The best example that comes to mind is yuki kaji.
He voiced both the jp roles of itty bitty baby boys like Koichi hirose from jojo and Nishikata from takagi san
But has also been Eren fucking Jaegar this entire time
Mfs got P I P E S 💀
I think both gons and killuas voiced actors were phenomenal
This is where knowing japanese comes in clutch. I can listen to dialogue , and read it at the same time
That’s so cool u really wish I could speak Japanese lmao. Btw were the English texts an accurate translation of what pitou gon and killua in Japanese in the video?
@@suzukisatoru4701 Fuzaken na is mistranslated as “That’s crap” or “That’s just crap” which lessens the impact of the actual meaning. Fuzaken na is Japanese for “Are you fucking with me?” or “Are you fucking kidding me?” It’s way harsher sounding than just “That’s crap”.
Yes, Gon dropped a whole F-bomb. Not once, but twice. You don’t expect it, so it comes as a surprise ngl.
@@thewanderingstruggler8601 I'm attending a japanese course, it's really interesting to learn about the language, not just for anime but also the rich culture japan has. Through watching anime I kinda developed not a skill but I'd say I memorized words and sentences and now when I watch anime I can partly actually understand certain (if only few to very few) words or even sentences.
I'm only 3 basic lessons in, we did kore sore are, basic conversation stuff like dozo and more and rn koko, soko and asoko. I'm really excited to learn more about the language and I hope that in 2 or 3 years I can have a pretty basic conversation in Japanese
@@thewanderingstruggler8601 Not necessarily. The translation is still accurate, just blunted because Crunchyroll subs tend to avoid using the F word whenever possible. ふざけるな has many different translations depending on its intensity, although I do agree it should've been more intense than "That's crap" in this case.
日本語ギャングだぞ！Ｂ)
Hate how everyone calls Gon unhinged for reacting the way he does and mercilessly killing pitou. She beat, tortured, then killed kite, just to then turn him into a fucking puppet. She did that to his friend and mentor. Besides that, above all else he’s still a child, not that it’s an excuse, but he isn’t exactly at the age where he’d be emotionally mature anyhow. Even if he wasn’t a child it’s entirely understandable to feel rage and sorrow to the extent of wanting revenge at the death of a loved one.
pitou was something like a week old when he killed kite? the decisions he made at the start of his life have the same moral weight of an actual ant wiping out a nearby termite colony. but he goes thru his own arc and the current pitou is much more human. anw gon has always been inconsistent and selfish, but he's meant to be this way and i think his reaction was well written
@@spalengGon's character is not like tanjiro or anything else. He just do what he wants and what he thinks that is right
THANK YOU! I hate how everyone acts like Gon is crazy for wanting to kill the thing that turned his father figure into a puppet, as if nobody else would want to do that
they did not torture kite
deadass have never seen anyone NOT justify what gon did
This is the best animated scene in the anime to me. I love the way they used his facial expressions.
Also, this being the first time I’ve seen the original manga’s version, it’s pretty damn good. The way I’d put it is that the manga is more raw, and the anime is more intense.
冨樫様様
アニメver.好きだけど、静止画と文字だけでこんだけ表現できるの本当凄い
このシーン、それぞれのキャラに魅力があって本当に好きだわ
Megumi Han was born to voice Gon in this scene.
蟻編アニメの繊細な作画ほんとすこ
アニメの余白が秀逸過ぎる。
ゆっくり進むのに間延びして感じないのが凄い
@@pocyomkin37なるほど…確かに……
観てた時は自然すぎて気づかなかった。凄いな
ワンピースは見習ってもろて
禍々しさ、不安定さ、痛々しさ、全ての負の感情が、音も色もないただの絵に込められてるの凄すぎる
As a humanist this scene is profound. It depicts a special moment in many people's lives where, after suffering at someone else's hands mercilessly, they gain power over them and are immediately faced with the responsibility of what to do with that power. Sometimes with the former tormentor begging for mercy. Some people are baffled at the audacity of their tormentor, some people refuse to show mercy, and others acquiesce all-too-soon and almost hand the power back over to their opponent. Each reaction reveals volumes of that person's nature.
Those that are baffled or confused learn that not all humans have empathy or can imagine what it's like in someone else's shoes. Then they have to choose to forgive or not based on this deficiency. Can their opponent change? Or are they hopeless...
Those that refuse to show mercy are complicated. Do they themselves lack empathy? Do they understand the true nature of their tormentor? Or perhaps they don't care...
Finally, those that forgive too quickly and rush to return to "normal". They can be the strongest of us all, but they are frightfully naive. For them, it might be a lifetime of struggles ahead of them...or they may end up in an uncomfortable position of leadership before they realize it. Being strong enough to take power from the greedy, but not wishing to possess or abuse that power often defines our greatest leaders, who historically never asked to be put in charge.
So who is Gon? He clearly has empathy. He cries first for Kite, second for Pitou mutilating herself to protect a helpless other, and third for himself as he corrupts his innocence and becomes aware that life isn't black and white. The knowledge that his tormentor isn't a two-dimensional bad guy that can be smashed before everyone goes back to normal, the responsibility of what to do with this villain who has shown some humanity...the weight crushes him and forces him to change, to grow up. He denies this growth at first and decides "It must be some deceit, I'm killing her now." But when his friend Killua intervenes and stops him, it forces him to accept the truth...and so he lashes out with his passive aggressive comment about it being "easy for Killua".
Gon's bitterness comes from a loss of innocence that puts him in a state of shock. While Killua's worldview is unchanged before Gon's comment, receiving a verbal backhand from his closest ally is itself an instigator of growth for Killua. The cocktail of shame for not being as passionate about this as Gon is, humiliation at being insulted by Gon, and outrage at being betrayed by such an attack from his nakama forces Killua's worldview to violently shift to accomodate the new knowledge that Gon has changed, and things might never be the same. The knowledge that he may have to defend himself emotionally from Gon puts Killua into a softly bitter, disappointed state of shock that is an echo of Gon's own.
These are the tolls life exacts from us. We are protected and given hope, and then silently left to one day, eventually, discover the truth on our own.
just cause they beg for mercy doesn’t change the bad they did, doesn’t bring kite back or heal gons pain, or what gon went through cause of that
Passou de duas linhas nao leio
Beautifully put
nigga relax its an ant
@@sexybrathuhnmitsose yeah bruh who tf asked this weirdo to write a whole novel about an anime character lmfaooo
I will get a lot of enemies by saying this but gon's rage feels so much more genuine. Maybe it's cuz it's.. you know.. a moving picture with sound and color but sheesh i can feel his hatred way more
I bet if togashi upon release of manga had as much budget as the anime, it could have been little bit more expressive. Other than that, yeah, anime is amazing with this one.
@@LooneyClipse Budget has nothing to do with it. It only really (still barely) applies to an anime production because that means more staff of higher caliber to get on the production, but with a manga, the production is solely on the mangaka and his assistants. The main thing that would cause a manga to have lesser quality than usual, would be time constraints, health problems, and burnout. For Togashi it's been mainly the thrid one because he had been struggling with ailments for decades.
アニメのクオリティがすごく高いはずなのに、それでも感情とか構図が原作を越えられない。
すごい作家さんなんだと改めて思いました。
漫画原作でアニメが原作を超える作品自体まじで指で数えられるくらいしかないからね
The character animation on Gon was so fenomenal in this scene. The twitching the facial expressions acting. And the way they used the composition and camera movements to translate the manga so well into the language of cinema. This was a truly great adaptation.
99 version before chimera ant arc was much better animated and more realistic over 2011 readaptaions
@@JacoB-wp4ws okay
@@JacoB-wp4wsBut we liked the version of 2011
@@mexlilaofoda8864 still i cant forget how madhouse butchered gon vs hanzo, gon vs hisoka etc., this fights were much mire realistic and better excecuted in 99 over 2011, that fight gon vs hanzo from 2011 just looked like fight for very early teens with heavily cencorship, little to no chararacter acting, changed crucial plot points from the fight, much worse atmosphere, i could go on and go on with the list that people know 2011 changed for the much worse
Yeah no, 2011 version > 1999 version, it's just very trendy to hate on the modern version but the hisoka fight was better in the newer version, animation, color and audio design are miles better in the 2011 version, the only point that i would give to the 99 version is directing and ambience
冨樫の漫画の才能って異次元だよなあ。。
キャラクターの表情に深みがあって、アニメよりもより奥底の感情が見れる気がする。
コマ割りも見やすさも構成力もレベチ。好きだなぁ。
外人はアニメ派が多いみたいだけどw 漫画を読む人が少ないからかな。
We read manga and anime with English translation and like Japanese storytelling.
海外行ったときに本屋にH×HとナルトとBLEACHの英語版が売ってて(2010年代)、ワンピじゃなく富樫なんだなーと思ったのが記憶にある
顔の左右差や汗の数まで目のフォルムだけで語る。原作の作画の凄さを感じる。絵は動いていないが絵の中では動いている。
Still love the rawness in the manga. The way he alternates his strokes from clean to sketchy to reflect the minute differences between levels of tension is simply stunning. Even his panel usage and dialogue boxes add up to the overall feel. Kirua's subtle facial expressions, Neferpitor's desperation and Gon's rage and confusion was clearly expressed. I got chills when I read this the first time.
@Theli Mega Butthurt that someone likes manga more?
It's so much more artistic than the adaptation indeed.
The anime does a stunning job at all the other stuff, but the shots and overall graphical work is nowhere as impactful
This literally shows that emotion is human's greatest strength and weakness. With enough love and compassion you could become like an angel and with enough hatred and anger you could become a monster.
5:47
「関係ないからっ」を言われた後のキルアの表情
6:31 こっちに構図使われてんのね
一方で、「もう大丈夫」を言われたときの表情はカット
ここのキルアの感情変化はアニメじゃ表現できないと割り切った製作陣すご
どういうこと。
大丈夫って言われた後どっちもキルア映るやん。
こう見ると新アニメも作画めちゃくちゃ頑張ってるじゃん
3年以上放送し続けて後半どんどん作画演出共にクオリティ増して言って蟻編でさらにギア上がるからまじで今考えても異常すぎる。
超絶ブラック企業のマッドハウスやから出来たこと
蟻編以降を全力で作るために生まれたアニメだと思ってる
@@pore03 その割にカイトとの出会い😂
@@pore03 いや見返したら最初から最後までクオリティ高いんやけどな。それ踏まえても蟻編のクオリティが高かった。
ピトーが自傷行為したあとの懇願に歯を食いしばってこの怒りをどこにぶつければいいんだみたいな悔しい表情が漫画版が好きすぎる
3:44 のとこめっちゃいいですよねー
線少なくて若干手抜き感あるけど悔しさめっちゃ伝わってくる
@@ikcham原作ってキャラの感情が崩壊した時にこんな絵柄になるよね
@@ikchamこれを手抜き感って感じる人もいるのかー
かわいそう
私は日本語が全く話せません。日本語を話す外国人以外の読者にクールに思われたかっただけです。でもあのシーンは本当にいいですよね。
@@たり-x4y😊😊
何気に声優さんがすごいですよね
潘めぐみの表現の幅に驚きを隠せない
So far, from all the animes I've seen so far.. (Hunter X Hunter) is my #1 anime.
Aggred 👍🏻
I like Steins;Gate but Hunter X Hunter is very close too
@@mehcky I need to watch that one, what is is about?
@@armandomendoza1991 Be warned it’s not for everyone. First of all, the characters are the biggest problem. In my opinion they are amazing but for some people they are irritating. The dialogue is weird too. Secondly, the story is confusing and slow. Steins;Gate is simple, but because they messed up the first episode the entire plot feels confusing. The story kicks at episode 9 btw. There are only 25 episodes. Steins;Gate and Steins;Gate 0 are seperate series that are meant to be watched together on rewatch and not together on the first watch. (Look up the guide for that).
Finally, I can talk about the story. It’s just a unique time travel story. (I don’t want to spoil any further)
@@mehcky dang.. to be honest, sounds really interesting. Thank you, I will definitely give Stein's Gate a try. So far (Hunter X Hunter) is #1 and (Attack On Titan) is #2 and last, but not least....(JUJUTSU Kaisen) is #3.. now I just gotta check the Stein's Gate that you mentioned.
冨樫の絵をよくここまで再現出来たよな…
ホントに流石だ…
海外の方はアニメの方が良いと言ってる人多いけど、俺は圧倒的に漫画から感じる繊細なタッチなはずなのに憎悪、葛藤、嫌悪、怒りを感じられることのほうが物凄く素晴らしく感じる。アニメは凄いけどそれ以上の想像の余地が限られるからこのシリアスな場面の幅が決まってしまうように感じる。アニメを否定してる訳じゃなくて、漫画の方が想像できる分シリアスなこの場面をより迫力のあるものにしてくれる感じがする。
I like how people "love the Togashi art", but this is made not intentionaly, he has arthritis.
You can see the true skills of Togashi on YuYu Hakusho.
man, i wish his arthritis was cured.
yeah! i have manga of yuyu Hakusho! AND THR DETAILS ARE GODLY CREATED
Actually, Togashi is pretty lazy tho, some of the chapter, before his arthritis are weird looking. But yeah, his Arthritis is pretty bad for the manga art.
@@aikoice845 because it's weekly not monthly published, he draws detailed manga pages and it takes months to complete and since they wanted to publish the manga weekly, this is hard for Togashi since planning up the panels layouts, shots and composition take like forever to complete so he illustrated it rushed and not laziness
Yusuke Murata's One Punch Man is an example of a monthly published manga since it contains beautiful shots, detailed composition and great paneling page by page
Aesthetically speaking, I can understand the “manga > anime “ at times. In regards to this scene, the manga drove home certain emotions better but the anime also has these 1 up moments. This is an all time scene for me. Gon’s va was otherworldly. This scene is special beyond words. This changed my whole perspective on “childish shonen” or whatever anime use to be called back then.
冨樫信者ではないけどなんでこいつこんな必要最小限の線で感情が乗りまくった描写できんの？エグくない？
こいつ呼ばわりで草
@@麁鹿火-g8w1日前で草
@@That_Nerd_Kid 黙れ
シュールすぎて草
オタクな同級生の漫画を初めて読んだヤンキーよりの純粋な陽キャの感想だなw
gon: im okay now
gon the next minute: becomes adult
killua: :|
いろんな感情がすごい伝わってくる……
さすがに原作は超えられんが第2弾アニメの迫力も凄まじい…
The way the anime is word-to-word with the manga panels astonishes me so much. It's like reading subtitles looking at the manga while listening to the JP dub.
And it's even cooler when you are able to read japanese, they made sure everything in the manga was in the anime.
@@rosietales yes, it's amazing! every word is mirrored
This is a powerful scene. You can see Gon having a crisis. Pitou is appealing to his humanity to spare her until she's done the surgery but Gon just can't wrap is head around that given his rage over kite and the fact that pitou is an Actual murderous monster. They don't make shonen / seinin like this anymore.
I loved this arc. It contrasted the humans and ants.... Ants starting to show human tendencies and the humans beginning to show monsterous tendencies
This what I love in hxh this is what you don't see Often in shonen. The mc is not sum typical hero, he's a protagonist like everyone else. Being selfish, Violent & Special like any other individual.
GOAT of shonen
Togashi is the absolute goat of shounen. Sorry Oda.
@@evangelionl0vr857Togashi and Oda are special in their own ways
Imagine if it's Tanjirou or Deku, they'll probably cried and forgave Pitou already
原作は勿論化け物で声やアニメーションがなくても伝わる、この絵があるからこそアニメや声優さんたちがそれを再現、表現しようと尽くしてくれたと思うんだけど、それは大前提でやっぱり私はこの潘ちゃんの演技、特にこの時のシーンはずば抜けて大好き。絵をみるだけで涙が出てくるのと同じように、この声の演技だけで涙がでます。 そしてこの演技を引き出してくれた原作は神、、、
Omg i love the concept i had never realized how beautiful the manga style was ! The character spread the same emotions but I received them more personally in the anime.
Why are you lying? U know dam well the manga style is jackshit.
@@BluerPanda1411 grow up
@@BluerPanda1411 opinions. Do you not understand it?
That's because in the anime there's an incredible voice acting work, you can hella feel the emotions from the words in this scene.
This scene is one of the best of all time in terms of presenting characters in a difficult situation. Gon’s rage scene is my favorite presentation of human anger in any anime.
Man togashis expressions went big in a bunch of these. Gons confused anger always hurts to see, though.
I don't want him to suffer
漫画の表現力神がかってるよな
書き込みが凄い訳でもないシンプルな書き方だからこそ緊迫感とかキャラの感情が直接伝わってくる
アニメも凄い再現度だけど冨樫はやっぱ天才やと再認識した
漫画の表現力神がかってるよな
The expressive power of the manga is amazing, isn't it?
It's not that the writing is amazing, it's the simple style that conveys the tension and the emotions of the characters directly.
The anime is a great reproduction of the manga, but Togashi is a genius, I realized again.
The art style is simple yet it conveys so much emotion in just a few lines, sometimes when there is too much detail in a scene the expressions and action of the characters can be lost in the background so I personally like A LOT how much the style fits the tension here, not saying the anime is less or anything like that, anyone can tell how greatly adapted hxh is, but for me, thiss scene really hits in the manga in a different yet still strong way
I saw a video essay that explains this.
The author has to really know what he is doing
To simplify his drawing to that extent and not destroy any details he wants to convey
4年目とは思えない綺麗な作画
the shot with the shogi table really added something emotional weight to this scene props to the director for adding so much to this
これ、もう10年以上、たってるんだなぁ
なのに、古さを全然感じないですよね。
This will hands down always be my favorite scene from the entirety of Hunter x Hunter, so much tension, raw emotion, and excellent story telling is shown here. Gon is at his breaking point and it’s here more than ever that we are reminded no matter how powerful he trains to get, he’s just a kid who doesn’t have control over his emotions and irrational decisions. He’s quite literally throwing a tantrum he’s so frustrated and confused by Pitou's actions, the voice actress perfectly portraying just how fucked up he's became in his quest to save Kite that he’s completely forgotten about the mission itself.
The extent of Pitou’s loyalty is as impressive as it gets for her too. I know she can and in fact does just heal herself afterwards but it doesn’t change the fact she put herself through that much pain just to do what the King ordered her to do for his happiness. She was willing to go through so much more too.
All in all, this is such an expertly crafted and heartbreaking scene. I’m personally an anime guy over manga so I of course enjoyed the anime adaptation more. (I honestly only tend to read a manga if there’s only a manga or the story isn’t concluded in the anime but the manga is) Even from an objective point of view, I like it more though. Poor Killua man, if only he could tell Gon and get through to him he was only trying to protect him from himself and jeopardizing the mission.
I really like how Togashi's linework becomes looser in intense scenes, but I have to give this round to Madhouse. The extra stuff they add (like making the characters more expressive, and even subtle changes to the composition) gives it an edge.
Togashi nails this beautifully. No matter how tough and straight-minded we are, at the end of the day, losing someone very close to you can bring out the worst in us
What you mean the worse? He held back and didn't do anything to her ... He kept his composure and showed even if he loses someone close... He can be talked into peace which is total BS... I'm so tired of this forgiveness shtick going on.... So no, I think it's the complete opposite ... Gon did not let out his worse.. in fact, he showed weakness... And gave into killuas weak thinking
アニメは間違いなく声優も作画も演出もめちゃくちゃ気合入ってるし最高なんだよ、怒りが伝わってくるんだよ。
冨樫先生が化け物すぎるだけなんだよなマジで
The manga is incredible as is the show. Though the show did the manga dirty by omitting kite like they did.
Otherwise, this is what makes a great anime. Not changing a scene, BUT ADDING TO IT. Instead of boringly copying everything from the manga with stills and nothing much more.
どうみても単に作画頑張ってないだけのラフ画なのに、伝えるべき情報は200%詰まってるの本当に凄い
わざとじゃねちゃんとしてるシーンもあるから
どこがラフ画なんやマジで
you just really see the care and attention the animation team put into the scene like filling out the blanks between pages as naturally as this makes me appreciate hunter x hunter even more even doe we´re never gonna see hisoka vs chrollo animated.
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
First time ive ever seen an anime adaptation that conveys the emotion better than the manga. The 2011 anime is such a masterpiece when it wants to be.
漫画が酷いって言ってる海外の人時々いるけど絵が綺麗だったら良いってものじゃない。それに受動的に楽しむアニメと違って漫画はある程度読む人それぞれに沿った感情を呼び起こしてくれる良さもある
Truly one of the most mesmerizing, captivating scenes I've seen in ainime. Hands down. They took the tension you see in the manga and amplified it by a thousand. Well done. 👏🏼
Just realised how much the animation improved over the course of the anime