Exploring Heavy-Duty Electric Axles: Behind the Scenes at the Factory

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  • Welcome to the Factory, where heavy-duty electric axles are born! 🏭 Although we can't take you inside the manufacturing process, we've got the next best thing- a close look at the incredible components that make these electric axles a powerhouse for heavy trucks. From 350 horsepower per axle to off-road capabilities and gear reduction tricks, join us as we dive deep into the world of heavy-duty electric axles. And of course, what's a factory tour without a giant beer celebration? 🍻 Grab your beverage of choice and join the fun! Cheers to innovation and heavy-spec boxes! 🚛💡
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  • @boeing_is_best5632
    @boeing_is_best5632 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    I’m happy to see you guys find a distributor, I hope there aren’t any issues with quality in the future and hopefully once production gets rolling and the space grows you’ll find some NA partners!

    • @ebolawarrior451
      @ebolawarrior451 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, chinesium usually doesn’t hold up well.

    •  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ebolawarrior451 You consumer drones and your mass produced derp, tedious.

  • @Jarrodthebusker
    @Jarrodthebusker ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Cool to see new 2 speed axles. Used to have them on a 1970 International and they were useful. Looking forward to seeing it all together. I think you are building a great truck.

    • @SLOCLMBR
      @SLOCLMBR ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Got a 5&2 in my 89 f600 dump truck.. good ol gasser. Would be a completely different experience with this axle in it....

  • @theislandsc
    @theislandsc ปีที่แล้ว +401

    A Chinese company saying you can’t film the factory because of proprietary technology is just the pinnacle of irony.

    • @Dancing_Alone_wRentals
      @Dancing_Alone_wRentals ปีที่แล้ว +23

      ...that went over the head of many, but it was wise of the elderly woman working the lathe to run them out.

    • @t-yoonit
      @t-yoonit ปีที่แล้ว +31

      God forbid we see the proof of stolen IP. 😂😂

    • @theislandsc
      @theislandsc ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@t-yoonit ARM semiconductors

    • @okiedoke6373
      @okiedoke6373 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      The Clone is some German stuff what they didn't want you to see was the copyright infringement of the Machinery it's built by

    • @ETsBees
      @ETsBees ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Right!

  • @michaelmcclure8673
    @michaelmcclure8673 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Can't wait to see them axles mounted and doing some testing in the great north.😊

  • @jamiewhite1616
    @jamiewhite1616 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Those look like their build with confidence. God one of those in any truck would be a cool swap kit.

  • @JTLand
    @JTLand ปีที่แล้ว +16

    what a time to be alive

    • @Dancing_Alone_wRentals
      @Dancing_Alone_wRentals ปีที่แล้ว

      Well said. Loads of cool things happening right around us. We need to remind each other to invest in the energy producers so we don't get left out.....and eventually paying high costs of energy. (Back to square one).

  • @jaredlancaster4137
    @jaredlancaster4137 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    So the planetary gear reduction is in the hubs so that the axle shafts see less torque? I like that.

    • @callumkingunderwood
      @callumkingunderwood ปีที่แล้ว +12

      A few ICE axles do the same for same reason. Seems to work pretty well

    • @BMPellogia
      @BMPellogia ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That type of axle is common here in brazil. Its is even mandatory to have axles with reduction hubs if you reach certain weight limits

    • @jameswyatt1304
      @jameswyatt1304 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      More lessons from heavy agricultural machinery and monster trucks, LOL

    • @chickenfishhybrid44
      @chickenfishhybrid44 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pretty common. Unimogs and hummers have a similar setup. Mainly for ground clearance I believe in those cases.

    • @jaredlancaster4137
      @jaredlancaster4137 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@chickenfishhybrid44 well no portal hubs aren't common at all, but this is something different. This is planetary gears and it doesn't add any clearance.

  • @mikes2381
    @mikes2381 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    You could actually do something like inter axle locking with the controller. Make the motors run at the same speed.

    • @EdisonMotors
      @EdisonMotors  ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Technically that’s how it works already. You’ll be driving full time with your “inter-axle lockers” in

  • @SLOCLMBR
    @SLOCLMBR ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Nice to see a community that appreciates average size beers and a good cigarette.. those axles look awesome. Is that what's planned for the future conversion kits?

  • @ferbcoperformance9884
    @ferbcoperformance9884 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Is there any chance the tri drives will have the front drive or rear a liftable tag? Not really doable with drive shafts very easy but it seems you could lift an axle of the ground and cut power to it pretty easy with this set up. Love what your doing. When the the w9 dozer hauler is done , hopefully I can buy an Edison.

  • @minnesotatomcat
    @minnesotatomcat ปีที่แล้ว +228

    I don’t blame you, a guy can’t wait for years before a factory opens in Canada. As long as the Chinese company stands behind their product then who cares where it’s made 👍

    • @NeoMK
      @NeoMK ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The motorcycle manufacturer KOVE is launching the most anticipated dual sport motorcycle in decades. The bike that every single rider has been asking for, finally we get it, the unicorn. They start at $9,000 which is ridiculously cheap and they already have great reviews. China is a quality up and comer for sure...

    • @SLOCLMBR
      @SLOCLMBR ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@BenJamminMahn 😂 for the money you could have a brand new drz400.. or almost new crf450rl

    • @miraclo3
      @miraclo3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@NeoMK *Gen 1 KLR enters the chat*

    • @MK-Ultra-1984
      @MK-Ultra-1984 ปีที่แล้ว

      Any company operating in China has the CCP's hand on or in it... not kosher that this can't be supplied by a Canadian company.

    • @enb3810
      @enb3810 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@miraclo3 got mine for $1500

  • @johncajiao1308
    @johncajiao1308 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    nice; As they are independent axles, you can climb the empty hill in a 8x2 configuration, saving more energy; between wheels can be locked? Greetings from Colombia.

    • @gsilva220
      @gsilva220 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      the wheels within an axle can be locked, but not between axles, as each axle has its own motor.

    • @SLOCLMBR
      @SLOCLMBR ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actually better this way, considering how traction control should be quite possibly better than traditional lockers

    • @feedurheadhesaid
      @feedurheadhesaid ปีที่แล้ว +1

      With multiple electric motors it's not anymore economical to run just one, you just run less power to all of them.

  • @jdm1066
    @jdm1066 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What about In Hub Electric Motors to get rid of differentials?

  • @tuna22lm
    @tuna22lm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That is so cool. I wondered if there was a planetary system for the axels.

  • @kadmow
    @kadmow ปีที่แล้ว +5

    ...well a 2 speed diff is a "transmission - per-se, thanks for the tour (hub reduction greatly increases durability of diff centres and central driveline components).

  • @zyeborm
    @zyeborm ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Portal axles might be an interesting option later on too

  • @digger105337
    @digger105337 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    How well do those drive axles stay synchronized together? Speed variation for an on road truck is pretty important for tire wear since they're not mechanically connected.

    • @jonasstahl9826
      @jonasstahl9826 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      What do you mean with synchronized?
      They are electric with a motor each.
      If you have the same load on the axle and puts the same amount of power in them they have the same amount of tire wear

    • @ARockRaider
      @ARockRaider ปีที่แล้ว +5

      you don't gotta worry about the rubbing that you would have with normal axles, so it's just a case of don't let an axle spin out and you are golden.

    • @charlesgunzelman3323
      @charlesgunzelman3323 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      These types of motors have phase sensors to tell the controller lots of info about the physical rotation of the output shafts etc. Any synchronization would happen at the controller.

    • @JonoSann
      @JonoSann 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I believe the excessive tyre wear is caused by the inter axle drives winding up tension in turns, etc like an old-school 4x4 car does when on a hard surface. Electric axles wouldn't have this problem because they would always have equal driving *force* to each axle - they can't 'wind up' because there is no shaft connecting them.

  • @chadfoust6942
    @chadfoust6942 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm stoked for the HD production! Did you lock down a contract for the medium duty axles?

  • @chrisE815
    @chrisE815 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You ever think about connecting with Grin Technologies in Vancouver? There's not much product overlap but they have been working with Chinese motor suppliers for many years...

  • @langdons2848
    @langdons2848 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Does it have inter-axle lockers" might not be a relevant question but I would ask if they provide inter-axle traction control? Being able to crawl without one axle spinning wildly on slippery spots does seem relevant, especially in off-road applications.

  • @ryanlear8278
    @ryanlear8278 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How do the electric motors hold up to the road vibration since there is almost no suspension to help dampen the vibration. Basically, are the motors going to vibrate apart when going down the road?

  • @alec4672
    @alec4672 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wouldn't mind a second video of y'all exploring. Immediately found some brews and we're drawn in by smoked meats. Canadians in China is a good watch 😂🤘

    • @EdisonMotors
      @EdisonMotors  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      We have a TON of footage like that! However we are trying to keep this TH-cam channel more professional…. As an editor, I snuck that footage in at the end to see how well it we received.
      If we had a few more comments asking for some of our fun China footage, we might be able to convince Chace to let me post it!

    • @EdisonMotors
      @EdisonMotors  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      - Theron Danger

    • @alec4672
      @alec4672 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@EdisonMotors I can't blame him this company is his life blood clearly. I definitely appreciate the bit at the end though. It's a good reminder that y'all are just like the rest of us and not some big business country club guys.

    • @chrishare3981
      @chrishare3981 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@EdisonMotors, it is pretty interesting to see the city maybe a seperate channel.

  • @chrishare3981
    @chrishare3981 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I work at a old school trucking yard and this is fantastic.

  • @samellis4054
    @samellis4054 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for showing what you can its impressive and tell the company thank yoy

  • @cartmanrlsusall
    @cartmanrlsusall ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I hope this works out for you guys I hope you get the equipment to manufacture your own axles and motors,because Canadians build good products China can but as soon as you turn your back they try to slip in cheaper metals and lower quality components

  • @SunnyXia-j2w
    @SunnyXia-j2w 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great

  • @roballan4944
    @roballan4944 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sounds great and all. Do they use standardized brake drums, bearings, wheel seals? How will you protect the motor cooling hoses at the back of a logging truck? I mean it's pretty hard to keep an axle temp sensor wire connected as is.

  • @Elyon113
    @Elyon113 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    AHHHHHHHHHHHHH I'M SO PROUD OF YOU GUYS!!!

  • @calholli
    @calholli 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Inter axle lockers" is actually where all EV's are falling short. You need to talk to these guys and make sure that you are PUSHING for them to create a "virtual locker" --- so that it sync's the front and rear motors. I've seen on the Rivian that it gets super confused when one axle is spinning or slipping and the other isn't; and it starts freaking out and getting jerky and applying the ABS at random, etc.. They need to make a "virtual locker" so that it simply syncs the motors and stops monitoring the traction control stuff.

  • @nspro931
    @nspro931 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just watched the secret video. Don't put disc brakes on them. Drums are so much more owner friendly and cheap to repair. With regenerative the brakes will hardly be used so no reason for fancy brakes.

  • @willemsmith506
    @willemsmith506 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Seems like it would be pretty easy to add front wheel drive to a truck given the fact that you don't need to deal with driveshafts

    • @EdisonMotors
      @EdisonMotors  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That’s correct, You could also have drive axles on your trailers. - Theron Danger

  • @elierhernandez1
    @elierhernandez1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would it be possible to add a hub lock for flat towing in case of break downs?

  • @michaelhannick2128
    @michaelhannick2128 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Who’s inverter are you using to drive the motors? Are you 400V? 600? 800?

  • @scottc4433
    @scottc4433 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It does have inter axle via only powering one axle

  • @vtwrench1
    @vtwrench1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just wondering why you didn’t choose an axle from Lion Electric as they are a Canadian manufacturer?

    • @EdisonMotors
      @EdisonMotors  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lion Electric do not make their own E-axles. - Theron Danger

    • @EdisonMotors
      @EdisonMotors  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They also don’t use axles strong enough for logging trucks either

  • @timothyengland3
    @timothyengland3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So these e axles ,,,, the power plant is liquid cooled,,, would that be linked between axles or individual heat exchangers?

  • @jeramy2398
    @jeramy2398 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Are these 3 phase ac drive motors? Would it be possible to run these trucks on generator only without battery for cost and weight savings?

    • @jeramy2398
      @jeramy2398 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@brianb-p6586Sorry don't know what was thinking of course need battery for regeneration. How much do you really get thru regeneration. I know used to be with ac forklifts they advertised as regenerating power when slowing which they did but didn't noticeable increase run time. Granted was years ago when worked on them. If used engine sized only to provide maximum power needed under heavy load should still save fuel.

  • @WolfsburgWarehouse
    @WolfsburgWarehouse 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When you fill the gear oil, do you tilt the axle 15 degrees one way then 15 degrees the other way?

  • @Dancing_Alone_wRentals
    @Dancing_Alone_wRentals ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Fantastic to see your work taking you around the world. These are exciting times.
    Funny how they don't want you filming in the back....it could upset the actual patent holders. Sucks to be them; oh well.

    • @EdisonMotors
      @EdisonMotors  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Well they do make other things, it’s very cool to see the production levels of China. They make stuff for all over the world

  • @amirlach
    @amirlach ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does the truck have an engine powered generator as well as batteries? And are the the electric motors three phase vfd style or dc servo type motors?

    • @Texaca
      @Texaca ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ... those are 3 phase motors, three large power cables go to each axle. He mentioned that in an earlier video.
      th-cam.com/video/dhi04e3ZrgU/w-d-xo.html

    • @amirlach
      @amirlach ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Texaca I looked at using a 3 phase motor and vfd on the spindle of my cnc milling machine. The speed would be controled by the software.

  • @joshtaylor6617
    @joshtaylor6617 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HA! You guys are awesome! Now back to work

  • @JacobDeepCreek
    @JacobDeepCreek 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    can we get these
    for a farm tractor?

  • @kevinthomas895
    @kevinthomas895 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this your design being produced in China or are you buying an off the shelf electric axle?

    • @EdisonMotors
      @EdisonMotors  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, they’re custom spec’d for logging/heavy haul applications

    • @kevinthomas895
      @kevinthomas895 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EdisonMotors Precision turbo learned their lesson the hard way with China. They used a Chinese foundry for rough castings with final machining done in the US. Shortly after beginning business with the Chinese foundry, cheap eBay turbo kits popped up all over. The Chinese foundry was making knock-off turbo kits from the Precision tooling. Precision had to end that business relationship pretty quickly.

  • @ianspelman6088
    @ianspelman6088 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not a stupid question, the inter axle lock is in the ECU, simples

  • @gkozak430
    @gkozak430 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel like this will be your number one headache. But hopefully, I'm wrong 🤞

    • @EdisonMotors
      @EdisonMotors  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh probably. At least it just bolts up to regular rear end. The electric motor is just a magnet in some copper. But we’ll see what breaks and we need to change

    • @-Enginerd
      @-Enginerd ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@EdisonMotors ​ Class 8 eAxle Design Engineer here. The number of potential failure modes for even a simple system like this will make your head spin. Especially if this is a 2 speed system as indicated.
      I don't know what your commercial agreement with them is, but, if possible, there would be huge value in reviewing their DVP&R (Design Verification Plan and Report) and DFMEA (Design Failure Mode & Effect Analysis) to ensure they are following Engineering/Industry best practices.

    • @mrfrenzy.
      @mrfrenzy. ปีที่แล้ว

      @@-Enginerd Mobile application engineer here (integrating eAxles and motors into machines). For sure they will have a fun challenge getting all three axles working together with the same torque and speed in all different drive conditions, a lot of time will be spent on functional safety.

  • @gavinatkins2671
    @gavinatkins2671 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m interested in hybrid truck thing. I wonder if we can retrofit electric motors on pickup truck axles and have it work?

  • @mathiasmilne
    @mathiasmilne ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s common in North America too for many companies to limit, restrict. or not allow any filming at all in factories. Even shows like “How It’s Made” have to go through negotiations on where and what they can film when and it is usually scheduled for times when sensitive R&D or new business is being done. Many times this is because the manufacturers would have to obtain permission to allow filming from their customers and that just ends up being more work & responsibility on their end

  • @charleshulsey3103
    @charleshulsey3103 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Them's some beefy axles bro.

  • @mcskifter
    @mcskifter 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ok geoguesser folks.... where is that?

  • @jasonfarrell3567
    @jasonfarrell3567 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Got to start somewhere. It's not like you can buy them anywhere in North America.... Let alone Canada.

    • @EdisonMotors
      @EdisonMotors  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You really can’t. We looked so hard here for months and not a single one

  • @patrickfischlin2872
    @patrickfischlin2872 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry for asking but why didnt you go with Brake rotors instead of the drums?

  • @streamdx
    @streamdx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh, China… I hope they tested it well and meet all your requirements… because China manufacturers are incredibly kind when you talk to them and will promise you everything you ask. Then they do what is comfortable to them and not what you actually ask them to do…
    I am already don’t like this aluminum alloy… Will it last in your off-road conditions? I never saw aluminum alloy used as a bevel pinion housing in large trucks.

  • @ninefinger2511
    @ninefinger2511 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I know everyone is upset about the China thing but it's an awsome country. I went in 2016 and 2017 was an awsome time and would love to go back. But the government sucks. Majorly so I doubt I will ever get to go again unless something major happens

    • @SubliminalEncryption
      @SubliminalEncryption ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't think mist people dislike the people or geography so much as the government. The number of on going human rights abuses in that country is staggering.

  • @JamesParus
    @JamesParus ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the controller inside the axl. So it gets full voltage all the time?

  • @zacharythompson9839
    @zacharythompson9839 ปีที่แล้ว

    cool as hell, thanks for sharing

  • @1973GLH
    @1973GLH ปีที่แล้ว

    Disc brakes?

  • @jackbarry9469
    @jackbarry9469 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do they have over running clutches in case one motor fails can it coast home

    • @gsilva220
      @gsilva220 ปีที่แล้ว

      The motors are very light, I don't think they'll cause drag when turned off.

    • @gabrielsturdevant9700
      @gabrielsturdevant9700 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gsilva220 well they are light but they'll act as a generator when theyre spun, so its not a bad question

    • @adicted52427
      @adicted52427 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      americans don't know what a clutch is

    • @josephpadula2283
      @josephpadula2283 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They only act as a generator if it is hooked up to an electrical circuit.

    • @SLOCLMBR
      @SLOCLMBR ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@adicted52427 😂 funny, but alas, mostly true

  • @kelvinl5204
    @kelvinl5204 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    and to end the video, a burning ash tray lol

  • @ssentamurichard7486
    @ssentamurichard7486 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How much ich

  • @mdventurer
    @mdventurer ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool and exciting

  • @eaglewarrior8707
    @eaglewarrior8707 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not have powered axles for the trailers too?

    • @EdisonMotors
      @EdisonMotors  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That is definitely in the works - theron danger

  • @watchthe1369
    @watchthe1369 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Find some providers in NA as soon as you can once your production starts spooling up. I have seen quality degrade for products coming out of Chinese contract production over time and the number of batches they produce. I would also want to reward the company that did the original engineering maybe from the Tatra designs they may have copied which would lead to one of the Balkan countries or Ukraine.

  • @timothylines631
    @timothylines631 ปีที่แล้ว

    good great

  • @cartman4796
    @cartman4796 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mr Elon Tusk at it again😎

  • @elierhernandez1
    @elierhernandez1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Unless I missed it

  • @beyondmaintenance
    @beyondmaintenance ปีที่แล้ว

    ✌🏽😎

  • @garbageman3992
    @garbageman3992 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    love how its a 2 speed. nobody understands brushless motors or the math behind them but making good hp at low rpm's is incredibly inefficient and damaging to all electrical components involved, a little gearbox for reduction is absolutely necessary for stuff like logging trucks hauling 100k pounds up a mountain at 10 kmh. also what brand if motor is that and what type of motor is that? i mean it sucks that its chinese but what can you do when you start off small? they dont look bad quality, im sure they would be decent at least, cant wait for the day you guys get big enough to get a north american manufacturer to make em, maybe even custom motors!

  • @JoshLC80
    @JoshLC80 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What are you estimating the all electric range will be on these?
    I assume it will be mostly for close around town deliveries.
    Axles look awesome thanks for the update!

    • @adicted52427
      @adicted52427 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the range doesn't matter if you have chargers everywhere. this is why no electric vehicle company will brag about range except tesla (which has it's own supercharger NETWORK) or massive conglomerates with access to "off-brand" charging. what you're asking is like asking Ford how long the model T can travel; everyone in the business knows that the question is related to time and superfluous (disclosure: i'm not even a tesla investor)

    • @jmanlinc
      @jmanlinc ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not for driving around town, it's a logging truck built for hauling in the mountains

    • @mikegrok
      @mikegrok ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It is for a hybrid diesel electric off road semi truck. He hauls things several times larger than a semi truck. On a Tesla model S worth of batteries he get a bit under 2 hours of runtime, then the diesel generator charges it in half an hour. He said if he has a 5 hour mostly downhill haul, he can deliver the load with a full battery without needing to use the generator.

    • @jmanlinc
      @jmanlinc ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @addicted range does matter because I don't want to have to pay my workers 1 hour every day to sit and wait for the truck to charge so they can get back to town even if there was a charger in the middle of nowhere on the side of the road. They can fill their diesel truck with the slip tank in 5 min.

    • @JoshLC80
      @JoshLC80 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mikegrok that’s pretty darn good I think the hybrid design is definitely the best way to go for this scenario. I was mostly just curious how far it could go.

  • @maxrockatanksyOG
    @maxrockatanksyOG ปีที่แล้ว

    1:19 i heard that!

  • @thegumpfiles778
    @thegumpfiles778 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am always amazed at the Americans that believe in the made in America sticker on their stuff , Its all made in China and Mexico , the big companies all have divisions in China , making American made stuff . lol

  • @356boilermule
    @356boilermule 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We need to leave trucks just like they are

  • @DabblersDen
    @DabblersDen ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bad...ass...

  • @TSi99999
    @TSi99999 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can you spec these with Disc Brakes? They perform ao much better. Nice work really exciting to see this!

    • @TheMetalButcher
      @TheMetalButcher ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Do they? Do they really? The swept area of drum brakes are huge. I have not personally seen disc brakes on class 7 or 8 trucks.

    • @autogolazzojr7950
      @autogolazzojr7950 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The vast majority of the braking power will come from dynamic/regenerative braking anyway, right?

    • @texalmighty1
      @texalmighty1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheMetalButcher the 2017 Pete 579 I drove for TMC had disc brakes on every axle. Same with the Volvo I drove for my last company.

    • @SLOCLMBR
      @SLOCLMBR ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lighter? Yes. Better? Eh.. I would bet not.

    • @bhavjotkang8004
      @bhavjotkang8004 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kstricl wrong they just specc'd them wrong. they will be using disk brakes.

  • @Capellix0001
    @Capellix0001 ปีที่แล้ว

    NA >>>>>>> CN

  • @scottjohnson360
    @scottjohnson360 ปีที่แล้ว

    You had me until china

  • @AZdirtdog
    @AZdirtdog ปีที่แล้ว

    Chinese axles and components, 😂

  • @mysterysolver514
    @mysterysolver514 ปีที่แล้ว

    Financing the ccp

    • @EdisonMotors
      @EdisonMotors  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s too bad there’s no manufacturing here.
      Designed in Germany & Denmark, made in China, used in Canada. It’s funny how the world works

    • @mysterysolver514
      @mysterysolver514 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahah i get it! Im still fckin impressed by all the progress you are making! It really shows that you are good skilled workers

  • @austindoud273
    @austindoud273 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The only thing i don't like is the name but keep it up (edison is a theif and a crook)

    • @EdisonMotors
      @EdisonMotors  ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Our slogan is “Stealing Teslas ideas”
      - Theron Danger

    • @adicted52427
      @adicted52427 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EdisonMotors stealing teslas ideas?? more like stealing the common mans money 😂😂😂

    • @kregsmith3991
      @kregsmith3991 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@adicted52427they are litterly trying to save the common man's pocket book developing a truck for the working man right to repair huge fuel savings less mechanical parts to fail ie drive line, transmission, clutch, longer oil changes, engine life, the benefits are huge

  • @inusa1618
    @inusa1618 ปีที่แล้ว

    Make sure to get air disk brakes instead of the old drum brakes

    • @nspro931
      @nspro931 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I came here to say, don't get on the stupid disc brake bandwagon. Good old drums are so much more owner friendly.

    • @inusa1618
      @inusa1618 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nspro931 409k miles on my truck and still have more then half the disk pads, and never got hot downhill, how it's stupid?

    • @nspro931
      @nspro931 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@inusa1618 Price out the parts ad tell us how much they cost. What brand discs are you running? What truck?

    • @inusa1618
      @inusa1618 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nspro931 Volvo and Mack, Haldex or bendix Air disk brakes, price is no that big difference when buying a new trucks, on top of that nothing to inspect when entering weight station, no s-cam or slack adjuster, Dot will be in and out of your truck in seconds

    • @nspro931
      @nspro931 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@inusa1618I find it hard to believe 409k on factory brakes. But whatever. But these trucks should almost never use their brakes so discs not necessary. There will be nothing to inspect on drums either because they will never wear down. Discs are proprietary and replacement parts expensive. Drums are simple and everyone understands them and parts cheap at the corner store.

  • @chadliggett7988
    @chadliggett7988 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is the company name?

  • @Cintmaasmusic
    @Cintmaasmusic ปีที่แล้ว

    I like Edison Motors, but I don't like China. That tears me apart. Same thing with Polestar and Volvo, sold out to CCP, essentially.

    • @EdisonMotors
      @EdisonMotors  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Unfortunately they make everything now. We couldn’t buy electric axles made in North America.

  • @MajikalCowpoke
    @MajikalCowpoke ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I need to find out how i can invest in this.
    im a broke trucker but this is the future and its bright

    • @kregsmith3991
      @kregsmith3991 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same here man I love this company and idea I want to go work with them or start a dealer under them would be so good I am working hauling logs to save for there retro fit kits I will have this one day lol also want to invest in them

  • @Texaca
    @Texaca ปีที่แล้ว

    ... be careful where you eat while in Chy-na, you don't want to eat foods cooked in #GutterOil, aka #DigouOil #SewerOil 🤢 ...that'll make your sick as hell. 🤔
    Always wear a hard hat inside every Chinese building... See: #TofuDreg buildings and construction. 😳

  • @SuperEye2eye
    @SuperEye2eye ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those axles look a long way from production - won’t see them in 2023 I bet ….when they are still testing if the work in the hallway…sounds like early days

    • @EdisonMotors
      @EdisonMotors  ปีที่แล้ว +13

      They are currently in the yard of our shop, in Canada. - Theron Danger

    • @trace9130
      @trace9130 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'm guessing you miss that they couldn't film in the factory. So they brought them out so they could film them.

    • @jmanlinc
      @jmanlinc ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I guess you should have asked a question instead of making a completely incorrect guess

    • @SuperEye2eye
      @SuperEye2eye ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EdisonMotors wow sounds amazing. can you show us a video of the axles in BC? I was really talking about mass production rather than the two demo axles they had in China that they were still trying to figure out themselves.
      Just trying to bring a bit of reality to the passionate dream that you are chasing! Thanks and keep the great work

    • @EdisonMotors
      @EdisonMotors  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SuperEye2eye I will be at the shop tomorrow filming the axles in BC.
      However, to clarify, you are asking to see a large stock pile of them in our yard?
      These were custom made for us, and pre paid by us. We are not in the position currently to pre-order and pre-pay for a large stockpile of E-Axles to be sitting around our yard.
      - Theron Danger

  • @AB-88
    @AB-88 ปีที่แล้ว

    In bed with the ccp. No thanks. Unsubscribe.

  • @kyleboettcher1276
    @kyleboettcher1276 ปีที่แล้ว

    You lost me at china

  • @PatrickKQ4HBD
    @PatrickKQ4HBD ปีที่แล้ว

    And just like that my respect tanked.

    • @erickpalka8448
      @erickpalka8448 ปีที่แล้ว

      you find north american made drive units like this

  • @malonedickridesagain3998
    @malonedickridesagain3998 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    arent those chinese/asian trucks frames much narrower than westen trucks? so that would make the axles narrower. also what about brakes?

    • @EdisonMotors
      @EdisonMotors  ปีที่แล้ว +21

      These axles were made for us, to our specs. They have drum brakes as well as regenerative braking
      - Theron Danger

    • @malonedickridesagain3998
      @malonedickridesagain3998 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EdisonMotors how are you going to keep each axle at the same speed and torque? is there a fail safe for one axle that has a speed issue? like will the truck kill power to that axle and let it free wheel in a type of limp mode or will it shut both axles down? just curious on how this will work.

  • @jessecipolla9092
    @jessecipolla9092 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    but can I swap these into my jeep?

  • @Hircine101
    @Hircine101 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm disappointed. I really thought you guys were gonna keep production local. Everyone wants to save a buck and move production overseas and they pay the price with quality.

    • @EdisonMotors
      @EdisonMotors  ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Some things aren’t made in Canada. You can’t buy these here, we tried.
      - Theron Danger

    • @jblob5764
      @jblob5764 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      You think they just have factories for these in every city? Theyre still part of a niche market.
      Cant please everyone

    • @TrailRider1200
      @TrailRider1200 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Some stuff just isn't made in North America, sadly. It shouldn't be that way, but it is. That said, the Chinese *can* make absolute top notch, world-class products; you are just going to pay a pretty penny for it, and you have to keep a close eye on the quality control. Although in my experience, factories making this sort of thing over there are very good about responding to criticism, especially regarding their quality control, and they are usually pretty quick to implement corrections when deficiencies are identified

    • @nspro931
      @nspro931 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@TrailRider1200 If they believe in the product Chase is selling and want to sell more of it, they are incentivized not to make junk. If these trucks turn out to be junk nobody will sell any more, word travels fast.

    • @liuyifei1989
      @liuyifei1989 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Well feel free to set up a manufacturing facility yourself then.

  • @wiskeydickbomber3384
    @wiskeydickbomber3384 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are going to end up bankrupt.... you know electric trucks will not work😅

    • @kregsmith3991
      @kregsmith3991 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I believe there electric truck is the Only electric truck that will work and work better than any other truck on the market it's not a new idea but is absolutely genius these trucks will outlast any truck in history far as engine hours diff replacement the normal wear and tear items will be there but different issues I suspect wires and connections also suspension components same as every truck

  • @HopeisAnger
    @HopeisAnger ปีที่แล้ว +58

    It's like ordering parts from BMW in 1937. It's not your fault, but it does suck.

    • @DrivingGod21
      @DrivingGod21 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Good analogy😂

    • @godstrashman
      @godstrashman ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yeah its just like that. Isn't half of Canada owned by the Chinese anyway?

    • @blackwidowrsa
      @blackwidowrsa ปีที่แล้ว

      @@godstrashman the rest of the world isn't far off, they bought so much during their boom years

    • @Dancing_Alone_wRentals
      @Dancing_Alone_wRentals ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@godstrashman That means Canada is a good investment. Hawaii real estate was Japanese in the 1980s. Hopefully Canada holds onto manufacturing; when manufacturing leaves drug use takes a stronger foothold.

    • @HopeisAnger
      @HopeisAnger ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dancing_Alone_wRentals Bingo. Could be a some juicy new US territories in a few years.

  • @chadliggett7988
    @chadliggett7988 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is the company name?

  • @NSaw1
    @NSaw1 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Really hope at some point there will be just as good or better axles made elsewhere. But really cool axles!

    • @jblob5764
      @jblob5764 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Hopefully projects like this up the demand in the market and make it viable for North American manufacturing to be established

    • @OhPhuckYou
      @OhPhuckYou ปีที่แล้ว

      You know damn well that this move right here has set the precedent that will dictate where all e-axels are made from here on out. I understand why he made the move, but it still makes me want to puke. Every single day we give our enemy more and more of the western world's power.

    • @bhavjotkang8004
      @bhavjotkang8004 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jblob5764 wont be competive. cant beat the chinese prices

    • @EdisonMotors
      @EdisonMotors  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I really hope so. Right now there is literally no axles made here in North America you can buy.

    • @ivonivan1169
      @ivonivan1169 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dongfeng > trannyflag flying cummins. I know c don't make axles

  • @Yoda98292
    @Yoda98292 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I'm wondering if in the next 10 to 30 years as the technology progresses and designs are worked out if we don't start seeing trailers with electric drive axles as well that draws power and coolant from the truck so that the load put on the truck drive axles isn't increased nearly as much when compared to empty as it is now

    • @russellv6234
      @russellv6234 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Airstream has a concept camper that does the same thing. The camper has its own battery pack though so it gives way more range as well.

    • @updog497
      @updog497 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great idea! You guys are blowing my mind. Imagine the capability of a 18-wheeler with 18 wheel-drive. That thing would climb straight up a tree!

  • @robertsponge1744
    @robertsponge1744 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you tell us the company that you are buying these from?

  • @joshmoe3680
    @joshmoe3680 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I'm so freaking excited to see these trucks on the road. I wanted to invest so bad in your company from the first day you said you wanted to do it and it's awesome to see it happening

  • @isaacyoung6331
    @isaacyoung6331 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    HELL FUCKIN YES I can’t wait to see em in the truck and it under load off road

  • @BurchellAtTheWharf
    @BurchellAtTheWharf ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:02 i wonder if you loads are gonna put the boots v motor on top or to the front or rear? I assume that the motor on top would give the best ground clearance?

  • @arcticfox5118
    @arcticfox5118 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Honestly, the more vids i see of this process the more impressed i am. While the made in china gives me pause, at the same time if they stand behind the product then whatever. Half the crap i own was made there.
    I likely wont get in on gen 1 just due to timeing, but id love to get my bullfrog remaned to one of these diesel electrics someday. Likely be perfect for an end dump like my rig which spends as much time on the highway as in the mud and ultra rural areas. Hell ive seen logtrucks confused when my plastic pete follows them down dirt and mud to quarryd. So it would be halarious to see all the very confused looks i get for loving my plastic 579 so much i went through the trouble to not only fix her but make her a hauling monster.

    • @EdisonMotors
      @EdisonMotors  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Even CAT excavators & equipment is made in China.
      But it’s definitely why we flew over to double check them

    • @ivonivan1169
      @ivonivan1169 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dawg, dongfeng parts > tranny cummins

    • @arcticfox5118
      @arcticfox5118 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EdisonMotors Yup hence why it only gave me pause for a moment. Half the crap under the hood of my truck as is was made in china. So as long as you checked and the product is well made it doesnt really matter where it was made.
      That said im still intrested in this tech and literally only found you a few days ago. Frankly if it wasnt for the fact my engine just rolled a million and needs a replacment in the next few months due to issues with the block id likely just wait and do the conversion. Never made sense to me why D/E has been ignored as an option so long. It just makes so much more sense then pure EV or pure fueled for most applications especially with modern tech bolsterig it.
      Oh well with luck ill get in on gen 2 or 3. Just gotta keep my plastic truck chugging along a few more years.