I take my hat off to you. I couldn't even be bothered to try and take my XR400 through there let alone my 1290. Top effort. I'm exhausted justn w watching this. 😅
Great video, I bought one on Saturday 2nd November and am looking forward to getting out and about. Hats off to you mate I would never have gone into that mud and water stuff!
If you had michelin trackers it would be much easyer,respect to your driving skils with this tire,its wild you made it,if i am not wrong you were on anakee wild..
I feel like thats the sort of track your mid way down and like..I "Cant" turn around because I dont want to go back through the stuff I've been through but then it gets worse and worse
When you got stuck in that rut traction was the issue. By sitting forward you reduced traction at the rear axle. Feet down pedalling further reduces your weight on the bike and traction, especially when your feet are grounded and your ass is off the seat. Dabbing a foot or two should only be a temporary aid to maintain balance. It does not aid traction or maintenance of forward momentum. It does the opposite. Waddling or pedalling seated becomes a crutch for riders who more and more rely on throttle/speed (usually while still seated) rather than traction, control and balance to negotiate technical terrain/obstacles. I know Adv riders with decades of experience who still don’t know or can’t apply the basics. The only answer they have to difficult going is open the throttle, hold on and hope they get through unscathed. Practice maintaining balance, power and control at walking speed, especially while standing on the pegs. When traction is lost get your ass over that rear axle be that sitting or standing. Keep your feet on the pegs unless you need to quickly balance. Worst case l, if an alternate route isn’t available do what 4WDs do and improve the track eg pull up grass and snap off bush branches to give you a couple of meters of traction to get up to the require speed to maintain balance. Don’t use anything that could cause damage to the bike though like long dry hard sticks. Great vid and great ride.
for sure Pros have skills; these skills allow them to ride fast, keep momentum, but mainly to dare opening throttle. Easy to say for us, very hard to mentally do... I succeed a couple of time to keep very good speed, and all became like a flying carpet upon everything.. But crashes would become a real problem at fast speeds, far from anything... and back to ride in between two paces, not fast enough to fly upon and get front wheel fast turning gyroscopic stability, and not enough slow to put feet down and correct balance when needed Keeping speed and momentum THAT is the main problem, whatever the bike, the weight etc.... good video good ride, you di it ! kudos !!
Don’t confuse fast riders with skilled riders. The former often end up completely avoiding actually technically difficult rides because they have little to no actual skill and can only find satisfaction in tearing it up on what are ultimately beginner level dirt roads you could take a Toyota Corolla through. Truly skilled adventure riders can ride consistently well, maintain balance, control and forward momentum at varying speeds, even at walking pace. They seek out gradually more challenging terrain and put time into practising and developing the basics, often at very slow speed. Yeah going fast can be fun but not at the expense of becoming a one trick pony that either avoids the sandy, muddy, wet, rocky and steep stuff for feat of being shown up as lacking in actual off-road ability. Riders truly keen to develop aren't scared to practice and fail the more challenging stuff. Of course il not saying people shouldn’t know their limits. I am saying don’t confuse speed with momentum and don’t confuse fast riders with truly skilled riders.
@@titaniumquarrion9838 skilled riders know how to go fast, mainly because they have more practice to fast read the terrain... And it depends of bikes too, but on enduro bikes, all is far easier with gyroscopic effect of the 21 wheel. 4 strokes enduro bikes have a very high gravity center which doesn't help if you decide to go slow . Don't misunderstand me, i know far well how lots of guys around me just open throttle , especially he week end warriors climbing steep tracks, but no balance and traction control, no clutch mastering, too much power... so i don't speak about the brain washed guys who even put in danger bicycle guys kids, horse riders and others, but to keep enough momentum to ease things For skills, no need to put kms on trails just backyard, static balance, slow eights, super slow wheelie and pivot turns to master clutch/throttle control, and trial lessons... i don't confuse fast with skilled , i wrote "Pros have skills; these skills allow them to ride fast, keep momentum, but mainly to dare opening throttle. " and i mentioned how the second pace can really be dangerous. But there are too many parameters to make generalities.... Especially with this new ADV ride (sorry) bullshit ;) with luggage, heavy to super heavy bikes and of course marketing intox seeing pol tares and others...( ex trial champions)
That was hard work, bet you were nackered. Thanks for sharing, I was sure that first long water crossing was going to stop you, did you do a lot of walking it out before doing them?
Absolutely the right bike for the conditions. Maybe a different tyre though. Just imagine that soft mud on 250kg of GS…….. and more horsepower will just make it worse.
Skill, experience and mindset are more deciding factors than bike weight. I know guys that eat that type of terrain up on big bikes. The key attribute they have is they can maintain balance, control and forward momentum at very slow speed vs the self proclaimed legend riders that only know how to open the throttle, hold on and hope for the best, usually sitting and flailing legs wildly when the going gets tough. Are weight and power factors? Of course. Would I personally want a big 1200cc+ Adv bike? No. I have a Enduro for the truly tough stuff and a mid-sized 900cc for usual type of Adv riding I do - But a skilled rider on a big bike will outride the unskilled on light one.
That's definitely hard work , but you've made it ....Bike seems to be good enough ( but on heavy side ) ...I just put deposit for one. Are you using stock tires ?
I take my hat off to you. I couldn't even be bothered to try and take my XR400 through there let alone my 1290. Top effort. I'm exhausted justn w watching this. 😅
Legit sitting on the edge of my seat for half this video. Bloody hell 😅
Looks like a very hard track. Well done on making it through!
This is the best (true) test of MT450. And it has passed it with flying colors. CFMOTO did a great job with this bike!
Great video, I bought one on Saturday 2nd November and am looking forward to getting out and about. Hats off to you mate I would never have gone into that mud and water stuff!
That track would have ruined me a lot before it ruined you. Well done, you made it.
If you had michelin trackers it would be much easyer,respect to your driving skils with this tire,its wild you made it,if i am not wrong you were on anakee wild..
I feel like thats the sort of track your mid way down and like..I "Cant" turn around because I dont want to go back through the stuff I've been through but then it gets worse and worse
When you got stuck in that rut traction was the issue. By sitting forward you reduced traction at the rear axle.
Feet down pedalling further reduces your weight on the bike and traction, especially when your feet are grounded and your ass is off the seat.
Dabbing a foot or two should only be a temporary aid to maintain balance. It does not aid traction or maintenance of forward momentum. It does the opposite.
Waddling or pedalling seated becomes a crutch for riders who more and more rely on throttle/speed (usually while still seated) rather than traction, control and balance to negotiate technical terrain/obstacles.
I know Adv riders with decades of experience who still don’t know or can’t apply the basics. The only answer they have to difficult going is open the throttle, hold on and hope they get through unscathed.
Practice maintaining balance, power and control at walking speed, especially while standing on the pegs. When traction is lost get your ass over that rear axle be that sitting or standing. Keep your feet on the pegs unless you need to quickly balance.
Worst case l, if an alternate route isn’t available do what 4WDs do and improve the track eg pull up grass and snap off bush branches to give you a couple of meters of traction to get up to the require speed to maintain balance. Don’t use anything that could cause damage to the bike though like long dry hard sticks.
Great vid and great ride.
Is that standard exhaust ? Sounds wicked !
for sure Pros have skills; these skills allow them to ride fast, keep momentum, but mainly to dare opening throttle.
Easy to say for us, very hard to mentally do...
I succeed a couple of time to keep very good speed, and all became like a flying carpet upon everything..
But crashes would become a real problem at fast speeds, far from anything... and back to ride in between two paces, not fast enough to fly upon and get front wheel fast turning gyroscopic stability, and not enough slow to put feet down and correct balance when needed
Keeping speed and momentum THAT is the main problem, whatever the bike, the weight etc....
good video good ride, you di it ! kudos !!
Don’t confuse fast riders with skilled riders. The former often end up completely avoiding actually technically difficult rides because they have little to no actual skill and can only find satisfaction in tearing it up on what are ultimately beginner level dirt roads you could take a Toyota Corolla through.
Truly skilled adventure riders can ride consistently well, maintain balance, control and forward momentum at varying speeds, even at walking pace. They seek out gradually more challenging terrain and put time into practising and developing the basics, often at very slow speed.
Yeah going fast can be fun but not at the expense of becoming a one trick pony that either avoids the sandy, muddy, wet, rocky and steep stuff for feat of being shown up as lacking in actual off-road ability.
Riders truly keen to develop aren't scared to practice and fail the more challenging stuff. Of course il not saying people shouldn’t know their limits. I am saying don’t confuse speed with momentum and don’t confuse fast riders with truly skilled riders.
@@titaniumquarrion9838 skilled riders know how to go fast, mainly because they have more practice to fast read the terrain... And it depends of bikes too, but on enduro bikes, all is far easier with gyroscopic effect of the 21 wheel. 4 strokes enduro bikes have a very high gravity center which doesn't help if you decide to go slow . Don't misunderstand me, i know far well how lots of guys around me just open throttle , especially he week end warriors climbing steep tracks, but no balance and traction control, no clutch mastering, too much power... so i don't speak about the brain washed guys who even put in danger bicycle guys kids, horse riders and others, but to keep enough momentum to ease things
For skills, no need to put kms on trails just backyard, static balance, slow eights, super slow wheelie and pivot turns to master clutch/throttle control, and trial lessons... i don't confuse fast with skilled , i wrote "Pros have skills; these skills allow them to ride fast, keep momentum, but mainly to dare opening throttle. " and i mentioned how the second pace can really be dangerous. But there are too many parameters to make generalities.... Especially with this new ADV ride (sorry) bullshit ;) with luggage, heavy to super heavy bikes and of course marketing intox seeing pol tares and others...( ex trial champions)
Where is this track? Looks super fun!
That was hard work, bet you were nackered. Thanks for sharing, I was sure that first long water crossing was going to stop you, did you do a lot of walking it out before doing them?
fuck that looked close to the airbox 🤐
Absolutely the right bike for the conditions. Maybe a different tyre though.
Just imagine that soft mud on 250kg of GS…….. and more horsepower will just make it worse.
Skill, experience and mindset are more deciding factors than bike weight. I know guys that eat that type of terrain up on big bikes. The key attribute they have is they can maintain balance, control and forward momentum at very slow speed vs the self proclaimed legend riders that only know how to open the throttle, hold on and hope for the best, usually sitting and flailing legs wildly when the going gets tough.
Are weight and power factors? Of course. Would I personally want a big 1200cc+ Adv bike? No. I have a Enduro for the truly tough stuff and a mid-sized 900cc for usual type of Adv riding I do - But a skilled rider on a big bike will outride the unskilled on light one.
i feel that hypoxia and chest pain xD
Same here, Apple Watch just came up with a notification “irregular heart beats”
Was it ground clearance that was hanging you up on the first rut?
The camera never truely shows the depth of those holes.
Looks like a good bike. Angry exhust note. Im riding a 3rd gen klr650 and I would like something lighter sometimes. I wish there was a perfect bike.
Get rid of the lower crash bars mate, they hookup every bit of shit. B&B Bashplate will keep you safe.
That's definitely hard work , but you've made it ....Bike seems to be good enough ( but on heavy side ) ...I just put deposit for one.
Are you using stock tires ?
No way he could pass this with stock tire
Momentum is your friend .....
What is your explanation of why and how and why is the case?