Leica D-Lux Type 109 Review & Compared to Sony RX100 VA
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- In this Leica D-Lux Type 109 Review (geni.us/kBOwk) I will go over everything you need to know and compare the camera to the Sony RX100 VA geni.us/UQKAQ using real world testing and common sense logic...Links Below & Full Review Here: www.sonyalphal... I hope you like the review and please let me know what you think below in the comments area!!
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I've had this camera for a month now and LOVE it. It's my first Leica and my first 4/3 system, coming from a Sony A7. It's a great travel camera because of the size but it's also great in low light.
Update: Two years later the Typ 109 is my go-to camera. It is the best overall performer in any situation. I love my A7 and my Fuji x100F but if I had to choose one it would be this camera. I’m a stills shooter and it takes amazing pictures. For video it’s passable. I’ve not babied it at all usage wise and it takes quite a bit of abuse
Every reviewer should be as indepth and thorough as yourself. Thanks!
To be fair you have provided a balanced review, I have the Sony RX 100:VA and likely to add this Leica and sell a couple of my Fujinlenses which I no longer use and a Fuji body
This helped me SO much. I dug and dug through TH-cam’s algorithmic madness.
This is the best review/ comparison video I have ever watched. Good on ya mate!
My full Highly detailed written review with sample photos, video, and much more is here: www.sonyalphalab.com/my-leica-d-lux-typ-109-camera-review/
I can get a Deluxe 7 for 230. That doesn't seem like a bad price you think it's still worth messing around with in 2020 the focus is very accurate I don't care if it's a little slow I had the original lx3. Rx100m1 Panasonic. Still like it and use then
So you think it's worth getting in 2020 for a decent price I have an lx3 and still get some nice stuff with it but compared to my other cameras it is a little bit soft but not much
BRILLIANT JOB WELL DONE.
Spot on about the Sony Menu system. It is confusing! Also too many options! It's the reason I like Leicas...simple cameras and rely on lenses, light and you!
That review is great. Sad to see not too many ppl watched and liked that video. Since Sony showed me the middle finger when my Sony phone died after one year, I will not buy any Sony product anymore. Therefore very interested in that Leica D-Lux cam...
Great review. You covered everything.... specs, test setups, in depth "parameter studies", real world, haptics, look and feel. That's how you do a review, TH-cam!
Wow, Thank you very much!!
The lens on that camera is AMAZING!!
Thank you for the detailed review! I'm just amazed by the incredible Bokeh effect and sharpness from this compact point-and-shoot camera
Glad it was helpful and me too!!
Leica is such an amazing camera! Amazing colors, built, and just quality overall of the photos... but man! The autofocus on video is pretty bad.. so I returned it today :( was hoping to use it for travel vlog and photography.. but I’m used to Sony’s better autofocus. But I may still buy the Leica again someday!
I totally agree and thanks for the comments!! The Leica AF is still contrast based and does not have the phase detection technology that the Sony's have, which is why it behaves as it does...
Thanks for the reminder of what can be done with this camera. I liked the use-based approach rather than just comparing numbers.
Now it’s 2024 and the third version has just been released - although the the third version is more of a 2.1 version - which prompted me to pull out my old typ 109 again. I also had an RX100 (can’t remember which version) but I always found the handling of the D-Lux suited me better so I passed the RX100 on to my daughter. Not sure what my use of it might be - A1 is my go-to for most uses, with Q3 being my street and lightweight travel camera.
My wife also likes her LX100, and the similarity means it’s easy for me to help her when she forgets how to use some of the features.
*I found the Leica faster and more precise than the Sony even on autofocus. It’s is much more versatile.*
*There’s a big difference between the Panasonic LX100 and the Leica D-Lux, e.g., the make origin & materials. Otherwise, very nice review.*
SLAPSTICK2011 - Correct. Our Leicas are made in Japan and the Panasonic is made in China. That says a lot.
@@lescobrandon3047 it just affects the selling price ;)
I've had this device for 4 years. this is ideal for me, I am finally learning to take photos. if there is a next one I already have an idea I save…
Super interesting. Have subscribed now. Many thanks for such a careful and thorough presentation.
This is a very competent review of this camera, probably the best I've seen on TH-cam. Very useful, especially the delineation with a Sony RX100 VA, whichI own too. I stumbled across this when I was looking for a review of the Leica D-Lux 7, which I bought a month ago for some of the same reasons you mentioned (manual focusing, more manual controls, smoother bokeh, etc.). I am not sure if the D-Lux 7 is the same as the D-Lux Type 109 or its successor, but I assume they are at least similar. I haven't quite figured out how to pick a single point somewhere in the frame and ask the camera to autofocus on that. If you happen to see this comment, kindly let me know how to do that. TIA, Roy
@@MPD90 - Ha, that is correct. I accidentally figured that out a month after my comment above, by which time I had forgotten all about this TH-cam review. You are correct, just touch anything on the screen and it focuses on that area. But for precise focusing on a pinpoint subject, you can always use manual focusing as well.
This camera is amazing, the quality of pictures is like nothing I've ever seen before come out of a camera this size. I had the previous version, the 219 model, 12MP and that was more than enough for all of my Instagram needs. The D-Lux 7 just takes everything to the next level, as well increase You will never get a bas shot with this camera.the resolution 50%.
Grab this one if you thinking of getting the Sony RX100 VI, it's the same price so it's a no brainer.
Great video. I have had the Leica D Lux for a few years and it is my favourite for many of the reasons you point out. I also have a Sony A7m2, Panasonic G9 and a G7 so I get to compare. The Leica is the camera I have with me. The other system cameras I have to decide to lug or not. In saying that I am looking at the Sony RX100 as a travel camera so your video is informative.
Super clear review. Thsnk you very much for posting.
I had the Panasonic LX 100 for the reason you state. But had to toss it due to common issue with dust getting into sensor from zoom ring. Very upset..This Leica is worth the extra $$. KEH used $650
Thank you very much for all your infromation and your great comments here i ths reveue! Wow you help me very. Greetings from Swiss! Marcel
Thank you Marcel :) All the best, Jay
QUALITY AND COLORS... LEICA EVERYTIME.
You get good pix with the Leica camera, the hands on layout looks good.
the dlux looks amazing
this a great comparison video
thanks for sharing this with us! really enjoyed this
Thank you so much for the kind comments and I'm really glad you enjoyed the video!! :)
With a hot shoe, the D-Lux/D-Lux 7 could perform many other tasks. I use it to shoot fashion and models in a studio setting. This little camera packs a big punch with 4/3 sensor. Sync it with all types of studio lighting. Best of all, it's a leaf shutter camera. That means very high-speed flash sync is now at disposal with this little camera. The Sony RX100 VA is nice, but smaller sensor (1") than the Leica and it's just a point-and-shoot.
Great points James!
Simply and retro design. I have fun when I take it to learn and try. Light weight make me sure that I can travel with him.
When people say a lens is great and reference the brand but don't show images to prove the point, it sounds like marketing has won. Whether it's a good lens or not can only be seen by comparisons, not by someone repeating the brand name and not by a manufacturer printing the brand name on the camera or lens.
You have the point but 1080p video is only 2mpix. There is simply no way to see the image quality of 12mpix camera while watching TH-cam compressed video. There are websites, where you can check actual image quality of most cameras and lenses.
Thanks for the comparison! Great info on the Leica
You're review was very helpful! Thank so much for the quality of your video too. Thumbs up!
Scored one for $220.00. It’s used but, man, what a steal!!
WOW! Killer deal for sure ;)
Jay SonyAlphaLab I know man. still can’t believe it lol.
Bought this awesome camera based on your review, Jay. Thanks! Phil
Great review as usual. It will be interesting to see a Leica version of the Lumix LX100 mark 2 maybe next year. Also, not having a grip on a camera this size is probably not as acceptable as on RX100. I hold the tiny Sony like a smartphone because it is so small and light so I never really needed a grip. But this Leica is bigger so maybe it should be held in the traditional camera way.
Thanks for the comments and I agree. I will just review the Panasonic next time and skip the Leica version I think ;)
@@Jason_Hermann LEICA D-LUX 7
I'm checking it out now ;)
Do you think it still holds up in 2023?
They should make a fixed 35mm or 28mm version where the lens doesn’t extend and it would be a much more appealing camera
Have you seen the Sony RX1R Mark II? th-cam.com/video/zB3TRCYkBz8/w-d-xo.html
@@Jason_Hermann I have that’s an awesome camera, just so pricy
Is this Leica model comparable to the Leica D-LUX 7? Thanks.
An excellent, informative and well balanced review. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Is this really a re-badged Panasonic or has Leica really made an effort to improve the camera? The original Panasonic version is famous for dust problems on the sensor- strange as it's a sealed system.
Hi from Mexico! We post real videos about life here! Thank you for this great video! You do the best product analysis on photo equipment! I'm looking to buy either a D-lux, maybe a 109, and am also looking at a panasonic TZ95, as the TZ is the same price as a 4 year old 109, would be great if you could do a review maybe on the two?
Wow, thank you for the kind words :) I have a lot on my plate as far as reviews go currently, but I'll see what I can do in the future! Thanks, Jay
Great thorough review, thanks!
Thank you for the kind comments :)
Hey, great video! What kind of green screen effect you use? Just some regular one or 3 party plug in? I like the quality
Thanks for the review.. thinking between x100v and this
GREAT REVIEW! Thank you!
Thanks a lot for this review! Great and informative!
Could you make. A review of the Xiaomi 14 Ultra please?
I know it's only 1 inch and mobile, so it's not that big. But could you review it?
If you intend to keep the camera buy the Lumix... if you intend to eventually sell it buy the Leica.
“Okay?!” Okay
brilliant review, thankyou
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for such a detailed review. This is great....! Very thorough.
Thank you!
Much thanks for the nice, detailed review!
I have the RX100m5 - its somewhat hard to justify owning both, being fairly close in features!
Can you plug in an external microphone on the Leica??
No external mic as far as I know...
@@Jason_Hermann Thank you! That's too bad... I suppose it doesn't support time code either then...
Excellent review, sir! I realize the Panasonic Lumix LX100 II is the "same camera", but my question revolves around the lens and processor. WOuld the image sharpness and detail rendition be "better" (higher) on the Leica? In other words, is the LWENS different than that of the LX100 II? Thank you!
Thank you! I believe the optics are identical, but the colors render different for sure, so it's hard to say 100%. That special look appears to be more on the Leica, but I gather most people would have a hard time telling the difference.
The summer lux lens is really great lens F1. 7 great images
Very well done video!! Many Thanks
Many thanks!
Hi there .
Any flash more good for this Leica ? I want to buy one but I don't know which one ? Thanks for your help .
I honestly don't know. I tried looking up compatible flashes and the only one that comes up is the Leica that is included with the camera. Have you tried reaching out to Leica directly?
Is 10.9mm is ultra wide ?
No, it works out to an effective 24mm which is wide, but not ultra wide...
I just bought a secondhand LX100 for holidays which is essentially the same as this Leica. I wonder if there is some sort of filter on the market to get the RAWs and give them a Leica colour?
Why is the strap attached upside-down?
Nice Video i am Sony User to but i think i Must try something different 👍🇩🇪✌️
I don't blame you and the fun factor of this camera is off the charts!! The Panasonic LX100 II I recently reviewed here: th-cam.com/video/flY6jfqvH0Q/w-d-xo.html is also excellent and pretty much the same camera, but not quite the same build quality finish and color renditions as this Leica.
Thank you so much . How to preview videos on your Leica ? It’s so confusing
I don't have the camera for some time now, but I believe in the playback area where the photos are stored you can watch the videos on the memory card.
love it this camera
So I am still confused..pl help which one is your final verdict..I use Nikon DSLR and I am looking to buy a camera that I can carry with me most of the time...
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Sorry about that, I'm working very hard to break that annoying habit thanks to your comment ;) I really appreciate the feedback and I got the message!!
@@Jason_Hermann I used to say "ehm" at least once per sentence (and still do too often. I used to do a lot of public lectures, talks etc.). A good exercise is to practice alone or with a friend and try to detect when you want to say your favourite word. Then instead of saying it, breath out. Or close your mouth consciously. Or simply make a short pause. Anyhow... the "ok's" and "alright's" are not a big deal. There are way more annoying ways to get on your audiences nerves ;)
@@stulora3172 I'm starting to break the habit, and thanks for the great tips!! It's like I want to confirm what I am saying to the listener to make sure they are getting the message, but obviously nobody is replying to me when recording. No big deal, just interesting, because I don't say that when talking normally, only when doing these type of videos. Thanks again, and good day!
@@Jason_Hermann ahh, that's interesting. I don't have experience making videos, only with "live" audience. I guess the mind is playing tricks on itself when you're alone in a room with the camera. Maybe (yet another tip, sorry....) it's helpful then to picture somebody you'd like to explain it to, to be in the room. Or imagine the camera is a living being that nods after every sentence (so no need for the affirmation). Talking and generally public appearance is mostly mind tricks. Just have to find the one that works for you.
On a different note: I don't use Sony, but Pentax and formerly Canon. But as mentioned, I like your way of reviewing gear. So if I may, I'd like to request reviews on other brands.... or 3rd party lenses, or....
very nice review as always
Thank you very much!
This is the new bokeh queen, yes really! It’s a Leica man!
I'm looking for a street camera with a zoom lens. I love the Ricoh GR III, but it has a fixed lens. This might be what I need.
Thanks! Could you please review the Leica D-Lux 7? Do you think it would be a good idea to add it to my travel gear even though I have a Sony a6300? (I am looking for that “leica look” -maybe I could not find it with this Leica- what do you think? Thanks!
this guy likes the phrase 'butters out'
Very well done!!!!!!!!
How is the camera 4+ years later? Have firmware updates improved anything? I'm thinking about getting either a Leica D-Lux 7 or a Fujifilm x100v. How often does Leica refresh the D-Lux line?
Hey Cody, this is the only Lieca I ever reviewed and it was a very long time ago.. Unfortunately I have no idea about firmware update schedules and such from Leica. You can prolly find some stuff on their website or reach out to their tech support for some answers.
i can't decide between this guy or the x100v! i'm comming from a ricoh gr2..
This iOS more of a hands-on camera with Auto modes, the Sony is more of an ultra compact set the camera how you want it in the menu kind of camera. Both awesome, but very different user experience. I would say the Leica is more fun to use for somebody like myself, but the Sony offers better AF and other technology. The Leica has a larger sensor and faster lens which is better for close-up photography and background separation. I hope that helps, Jay
What processing software are you using for the RAW conversion?
I'm currently using Adobe Lightroom, but Capture One is also an excellent program Mike!
No, the Leica isn't the same as the Panasonic. It's usability is quite different and has a big impact on how you use the camera day to day. To me that's really important and why I won't ever buy a Sony again as the menu structure and dials/placement is absolutely crap.
Thank you for the comments Mike, and reviewing both the Panasonic and Leica I found the usability almost identical, although I did prefer the Leica image quality better as far as the color renderings. If you don't mind, can you explain more as to what is different in regards to the usability of the Leica over the Panasonic?
You’re awesome thank you man!
Pana Leica, only real difference in jpeg files. It's for people who want to learn photography skills from ground up
sick camera one of my favs!
Great video thank you so much :)
Superbe review !
Nice review !
Would anyone recommend getting this camera now? I found one for $650 and am wondering if it’s worth it
I've always took pictures using my smart phones but now that i'm starting to travel alot more i'm thinking of investing in a nice camera....is the sony rx100 vi worth the price tag? wha'ts the best camera i can get around the 1000 budget range?
It really depends on what you are looking for. There are many options in that price range. Are you looking to change lenses? Are you looking for an ultra compact? Do you want or need a lot of telephoto zoom?
I GUESS i'm looking for ease of use. Since i'm traveling alot i'd like to start small at first and if i start to learn more on how to properly edit pictures and stuff then i'd like to move up to the nicer camera setups with lenses. I guess as of now, a point and shoot is what im loooking for. Any competition vs the sony rx100 vi?
Try the rx100 v. imo, it is a better camera. lower f-stop is more important to me. yes, vi has a much longer zoom and a touch screen. That is no interest to me as I've an A6500 if I need those features. What kind of traveling you are doing? If you go on safari and interested in wildlife individually, vi is definitely better. Here is a list of what is the difference. mirrorlesscomparison.com/preview/sony-rx100-v-vs-vi/
I have a Sony RX100 II and a D-Lux. I found the Sony to be good quality, pocketable but fiddly and too many options and buttons. The Leica is simple and I believe takes better shots.
If you have a good enough iPhone you should just get moments new 58mm lens it’s super good.
Man! :) Thank you but you made my choice even harder! :) I was considering x100f but somehow i remembered about leica and i saw this video...
Oh! :) i am a7R3 user, with 35 1.4, 85 1.8 but i wanted something super small, to be with me...
What would you do in this case?
I would go with the RX100 VA, because it's really and ultra compact camera, but you can't go wrong with the Leica or Panasonic LX100 either for that matter. Good luck with that decision ;)
@@Jason_Hermann Appreciate it :). One friend of mine told me Ricoh GR III (3) is coming out and might be a winner, hm.
Ok … Ok? Great review though.
lol, thanks... I fixed that crutch since this video ;)
How to turn on the flash, I can't setting it up
The question with these Panasonic made cameras is this: what is the involvement of Leica? It is possible that it is a Leica design, but of course Leica is too small to make such a camera without charging $4000.
I think they share technology and it makes sense for them to do projects like this. Honestly don't know anything for sure though...
I researched this question quite a while ago, but as I understood, this is a Leica, and the partnership is the manufacturing. Part of that agreement is that Panasonic gets to brand one for themselves, and the differences lie in some small changes in the case, which require some different moldings, and in the color rendering with the software. The design, at least in my opinion, screams Leica and Leica's way and modes of thinking for the photographer. There is nothing else in the Panasonic catalog that resembles its Lumix version. I think if this was a name re-badged Panasonic, it would look and operate like their (generic) designs, but it doesn't, but it does operate like a Leica.
So you develop your camera skills this camera can grow with youb
Is this discontinued?? what a shame :( looking for a compact camera with fixed lens...
You can buy them on Amazon.
Basicy i need digital camera when i finish roll of film in my leica m4 ;/
Do you think this is better than a A7RII?
No I don't, because they are way different cameras. The A7R II has a much larger full frame sensor and is 42MP which is way higher resolution. The A7R II also offers the ability to change lenses giving you endless optical possibilities. The Leica is really awesome, but an all-in-one point and shoot style camera in comparison. For your needs that might be a way better option though depending. I hope that helps,
Jay
Ok great thanks for the quick reply
Do you know what the minimum focus distance is at 75mm equiv?
Yes, it's 11.811" (30.00 cm)
Thankx!
Can I customise it for back button focus ?
Honestly I'm not sure. I have not had the camera in hand since I reviewed it, sorry Duncan.
@@Jason_Hermann OK thanks for reply ,will have to search a bit more then :-)
got to have a viewfinder those LCD screens are arse in the sun
YOu cannot say that leicas lenses are as good as sony lenses. I would investigate a little more about leica and the quality of the optics. It would be better to say that sony lenses are good. but compare to leicas optics.... well it´s really hard.
good review
Can I know how to download the video that shoot from the camera?
You can connect the camera to a computer via the provided USB cable, or you can take the memory card out and connect that to your computer. All the video files are on the memory card.
@@Jason_Hermann is it possible if I want to download by using my phone only, or through the Leica apps
How much
The buttons are no different, look again. The only difference is -MAYBE- the digital processing.
the sensor is simply twice as big, you can't compare it!!
Leica is the company that always produces worse products for higher prices. Just looking at the cheaper Lumix, you can see the Lumix has some slight grip so your hands can get some purchase on the body. There is also a thumb rest on the back. And the Leica has no better performance yet costs near double the price. It reminds me of those Hasselblad Sony cameras (like the "Lunar")... Oh, Leica... (For the record, I think the new RX100 cameras are too expensive as well.) Anyway, thanks for the video! It's useful for those thinking about the Panasonic Lumix LX100 line as well.
Thanks for the comments and I could not help but think of the Hasselblad units as well ;) At least it's not $1000's over priced, and only a few hundred....
In theory it is the same camera but im not so sure.. had both for a good amount of time and to me the leica had better colours. i matched them for exactly same shots and had a difference. might have been a difference in production quality, but i did that with 2 different lx100 with the same results. best way i found is to load them into capture one and change the profile to the Leica Q (T116) or the M240 or the M9.
Well, the image processing and color renditions of the files are not the same as the Panasonic, but the actual hardware is... So, the colors are going to be slightly different for sure and that is a great point you brought up!! I have not used the Panasonic, so I was not aware how different, but it does make total sense. Thank you for the comments and sharing the info! That is really good to know if you are in the market for this camera ;)
Just wanted to point out i had a really hard time to achieve the same pleasing colours to my eye with the lx100 in post, and sometimes i weren't even able to get there using lightroom.
nevertheless the lx100 is still my recommendation for best bang for the buck. the package in raltion to the price is unrivaled.
I really appreciate the info and I'm sure others reading this will as well, because this helps justify the extra money the Leica costs over the Panasonic, for those interested in the better color!
Okay.
I wanted to like the Sony sold it after 3 months very disappointed …not for everyone I guess ,
Yeah, it's very small and compact, which makes it a bit awkward to use...