What a lamentable analysis; it is utterly devoid of coherence, logic, and sense. Jinnah merely acted in accordance with the desires of the British. You seem to favor those who speak solely within the confines of State directives. Listening to her has consistently proven to be a futile endeavor. Her interpretation has been rejected by many. To learn more, visit our channel. To truly grasp your history, read "Allama Mashriqi’s Order: 300,000 Khaksar Soldiers Reach Delhi and the Sudden Collapse of British Rule" by scholar Nasim Yousaf. Here is the link: th-cam.com/video/F5kE4AlRsi4/w-d-xo.html
This was a great interview, looking at nuance and facts. Mostly nuance is forgotten and people grab lazy history to form lazy conclusions, which amounts to adopting lies.
What in Ms Jajal's view, was Jinnah's response to INA trials where Hindu, Muslim and Sikh soldiers were being tried and that created a lot of bonhomie among all the people across India?
Jinnah never supported INA. He was a staunch Empire Loyalist and a staunch Pro-British. However Jinnah was better than our Nehru, who refused to accept the INA soldiers in the Indian Army after independence but Jinnah had accepted them in the Pakistan army.
Congress had rejected all proposal and demands of muslim majority provinces then Jinnah sahib was issue direction of Direct Action Day. Congress ke Birahman political leaders ko Hindu Rashtra banane ke India ke partition krne thy, un ko malom tha ke Hindu majority 5 provinces and Muslim majority 5 provinces and one tribal majority Odessa province ese power sharing se India Hindu Rashtra nahe bn skta tha. Es lei Congress all demands reject karega tu muslim Apne right ke lei fight kr ke azadi ke demand karenge Congress us azadi ke demand ko approved krdega. Esa he huwa tha.
@@muneerahmed7530Do you know After India's independence, out of 76 years, Congress has ruled the government for more than 60 years, so till date India has not become a Hindu nation... And a leader of Muslim League did not take part in the independence of the country but only divided the country with the British in the name of Muslim nation... Do you support such a disgusting violent riots. What happened in direct action day.. Congress always treats all sections of the society along with others and your Jinnah has killed so many innocent people for his selfish demands and made everyone homeless.
I do not understand why does she have to defend a person of the past? It is one thing to state facts and another to simply presume intentions. After all they were all humans and have made mistakes. If she really felt that Jinnah wanted things to be sorted out before gaining independence, he would've worked towards a more thorough constitution than what India did. Infact while India continued with Mountbatten, Jinnah took over immediately. It is very clear that India put a lot of effort towards its constitution and state of affairs after freedom compared to a few speeches by Jinnah in Pakistan. I live close to Tufts, hopefully will get to ask her sometime.
I don’t think she defends him rather she presents her comprehension of the subject based on her research and this is what a historian must do, right? So to me, the history of partition is ambiguous to an extent that one could only comprehend it based on his/her research. Secondly, you’ll find her very accommodating. She is such a nice person.
Digging old graves for nothing. Nothing will change between Pakistan and India. Both nations have extreme fundamentalists who would never let peace happen between both countries. Pakistan's Army will never ever want to make merry with India otherwise Army as an institution will collapse. It is in good faith for India if they cut all ties with Pakistan and crumbling Pakistan learn it's lesson. Only and only economic upliftment in both countries can decrease animosity against each other
I agree with every word you said. I think trade and cooperation could help ease down tension between both countries but that’s not in the interests of those who are running both countries.
Why did Jinnah asked in his speech in 1943 in Kanpur that the Muslims of India got to sacrifice themselves to create Pakistan in the Western India if Jinnah was interested in a federal India? Lahore Resolution of 1940 was also against the idea of a federal structure of future India. If Jinnah was a Secular why has he propagated the Lahore Resolution as the basis of future Pakistan?
According to Ms. Jalal, Initially Jinnah wanted two units with a common center in India, both with Hindu and Muslim majorities respectively. It was Congress who didn't accept his demand and pushed for partition.
I read your comments. You seem to be defending Jalal who is defending Jinnah. I disagree with her as most logical people do. If you have a direct connection with Jalal you must do this: Do a face-off between Dr. Ayesha Jalal and Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed. Knowing Ishtiaq sahab as I have been following him for the last few years, he will accept the invite. He is a scholar focusing on Pakistan and the Sub-Continent. I put 2 conditions if you do accept this challenge: 1) Ask simple, neutral, and unloaded questions, aimed at the interviewee and not the viewer. 2) Bring someone else like Shakil Chaudhary/ The Pakistan Experience guy to be the other interviewer to have a fair discussion.
Hetal I didn’t defend her, I just said her argument makes most sense to me. However, you must understand that the goal of my channel is not to spark debates rather to provide a perspective which audience can agree upon or reject as per their knowledge. So no point of any such thing in future. Meanwhile if you are a fan of Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed, you could enjoy his interview that I took on the same topic a couple of years ago here: th-cam.com/video/QcZlaJIf9I8/w-d-xo.html
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Why British government not separated INDUS valley from India like other nations of subcontinent. India was divided 7 times in history. 1876 Afghanistan, 1904 Nepal, 1906 Bhutan, 1907 Tibet, 1935 Sri Lanka, 1937 Burma, 1947 Pakistan ko religion base pr nahe but INDUS 🇵🇰 valley ka separate culture language and nation from Hindi nation, language and HIND Desh ko base bana kr SIND, Ballochistan, NWFP, united Kashmir Bekanir jesalmir Jodhpur Kachh Kathiawar and United Punjab, Dilhi was district of Punjab pr INDUS 🇵🇰 valley ko India se separate krna ke demand British government se karne chahei thy. Today INDUS world 🌎 ka 4th largest population 40 crores ka Desh hota. Like Burma Nepal Bhutan SriLanka ko India se separate keya gaya same pattern pr Bangla 🇧🇩 country ke demand British government se karne chahei thy United Bangal, United Assam, (Arakan Myanmar) Behar and Odessa pr Bangla 🇧🇩 country hota tu aaj world 🌎 ka 3rd largest 55 crores population ka Desh hota. Esi partition hone se migration, mass murder on base of religion na hota and Hindu muslim ke aaps m nafrat, Hindi nation ke mslm pr Gadari ke ilzam, dono Desh ke aaps m dushmani na hote. Nepal Sri Lanka Burma Afghanistan India ke friends ho skte hen tu Bangla🇧🇩 country and INDUS🇵🇰 county bhe India ke friends hote.
@@muneerahmed7530Halwa tha na Miya ke India ko itne parts me Divide Kiya jata... Nepal ne India me Milne Request ki thi but Nehru Government ne denied kar Diya tha....and India chahta to Bhutan ko apne Mila leta but we Respect other nations sovereignty....aap India ko east me baatna chahte ho aur Punjab kuchh sabhi me kya joke hai....ab aap apne pakistan ki socho Baluchistan Aaj nhi to kal alag hoga hi and same like Sindh too and NW frontier Taliban lega aur POK ko to Hamare me milna hi hai.... insaallah one day this will happen for sure
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What a lamentable analysis; it is utterly devoid of coherence, logic, and sense. Jinnah merely acted in accordance with the desires of the British. Her interpretation has been rejected by many. To learn more, visit our channel. To truly grasp your history, read "Allama Mashriqi’s Order: 300,000 Khaksar Soldiers Reach Delhi and the Sudden Collapse of British Rule" by scholar Nasim Yousaf. Here is the link: th-cam.com/video/F5kE4AlRsi4/w-d-xo.html
JINNAH was an excellent lawyer when he started loosing his argument of MUSLIMS IN DANGER he swiftly changed IT to ISLAM IN DANGER AS A GOOD LAWYER WOULD DO he was neither a STATESMAN NOR A GOOD LEADER OR POLITICIAN , who wanted to achieve Pakistan by hook or crook and he did.
I come out more confused after listening to Ayesha ma'am. Too many contradictions and still too many open questions on what was the thinking while making Pakistan
History is not a point in time, so was not the Lahore resolution. When she means Muslim provinces she means feudal leaders, not the people who were for Pakistan. 1940 was an important inflection in history. She is a secularist married to a Hindu Bengali Hindu. How can she speak honestly about Muslim aspirations of South Asia?
@@TheWartimeLeader what is your question? What did Jinnah gain from partition? He gained being called the father of the nation. Because Muslims of the subcontinent didn’t gain much from either Pakistan or partition. Today Muslims are divided between three nations. Indian Muslims are discrimated against having to constantly prove their loyalty , Bengali Muslims have suffered a genocide at the hands of Pak army. Even within Pakistan, other than Punjabis, all other ethnicities are marginalised.
Ayesha Jalal is part of the Lahori Punjabi elite. So at the end of the day she is pro establishment. She has a romantic view of Jinnah, a school girl’s crush almost, that prevents her from truly being critical and analytical of Jinnah’s actions, which is expected of an academic. Instead, all her efforts are directed at explaining what Jinnah’s strategy was. Never dwelling into the consequences of that strategy. Intended or unintended.
She is a liar; she is not a historian. She has not mentioned Khaksar Movement, Khuda E Khitmatgar, Deoband School's thought, Jamaat E Ulema etc, in her zeal to promote Jinnah as the sole spokesman for the Muslims of British India.
she is not a historian at all.. There is no knowledge or evidence in its words, only condemnation of Congress and India and false praise of Jinnah... And if anyone listens to Prof. Istiaq ahmed sir, then this woman's words will seem like nothing but a joke.
@@TheWartimeLeader People may have different opinions, but when you criticize only one ideology without considering the facts and praise another ideology, it is wrong.
@@TheWartimeLeader I do not mind different opinion but a historian must mention different opinions of the Muslims in India before 1947 rather than mentioning Jinnah as the sole spokesman for all Muslims. Why did the Muslims of Delhi wanted to kill Jinnah in 1947 just before the partition if Jinnah was the sole spokesman? She has never mentioned that. Only 16 percent of rich land owners Muslims were allowed to vote in 1946. Do you 16 percent of the Muslims represented 100 percent of the Muslims?
sir This lady Ayesha always speaks completely biased and always considers Jinnah as right and Congress as wrong.. Have also seen its previous podcasts, it does not contain any facts, only meaningless talk... She can't be a historian
Historian kia hota hey jin logoun ko ap Historian kehtay ho un say sirf yeh poosch lo rana sangram singh kon tha aur raja hassan mewati kon tha aur in say yeh sawal karo jub 1761 mein panipat mein 1 lakh 40 hazar rajput merhatay maray gay un mein musalman kitnay thay aur mughloun aur afghanoun ka sath kon detay thay aur kia yeh log hindustan kee sari history jantay hein aur kia in ko maloom hey keh india mein caste system tha religion system nahi tha log us waqat tabah hotay hein jub democracy nah ho institutions nah houn hindustan ka yehi masla tha british nay devide and rule kee policy ko samnay rakha aur kam ker dia aur jo berbadi huie sub jantay hein batein un logoun kay baray kertay hein jo british stooge thay
Before partition out of 11 provinces mslm were majority in 5 provinces and Hindu were majority in 5 provinces and 1 province wasTribal majority Odessa. Hindu minority provinces NWFP Hindu 5% Punjab Hindu 24% SIND Hindu 28% Assam Hindu 39% Bangal Hindu 44% Hindu majority provinces Bombay, Behar, UP, CP and Madras. Keya Bangali, Assamian and Punjabi nations ko religion base pr divide krna julm nahe tha. Undivided Punjab, Bangal and Assam provinces Pakistan ka right tha, Pakistan ko dena chahei tha. Lord Mountbatten ne national provinces ke partition kr ke 🇵🇰 and Bangali Punjabi Assamian nations ke sath julm keya tha.
@@muneerahmed7530aap logo se to Bangladesh samhal nhi paye...bechare Bangladeshiyo ke upar Urdu Thop rahe the unke kapde aur colour ka majak banate the aur unhe lootte the.... Rahi baat partition me kaun sa hissa kise mile to muslim league ne Riots karwaye Bengal aur Punjab me aur lakho begunah Hindus and Sikhs ko maara taki wanha non Muslims minority me aa jaye....aap logo ne Baluchistan ko dhoka dekar kabja kiya.... But don't worry in next 10 years pakistan devide in 5 parts...
@@muneerahmed7530Can you tell what is the condition of minorities in present Pakistan? At the time of partition, India made a mistake, at that time all the Muslims of India should be completely freed from this place so that our country becomes completely free from faltu bakwas And if India had sent its entire Muslim population to Pakistan, Pakistan would have been destroyed immediately, so you people should consider it a favor to India.
@@NileshKumar-Dl1wli Bangali nation ka country Bangladesh aaj bhe 95% muslim Desh he. In future Pakistan 4 or more parts m divide hoga tu phr bhe muslim countries ke members UNO m zeyadah honge. Again we will all muslim countries can make federation with 🇵🇰🇦🇿🇧🇩 Iran central Asian and South East Asian countries. If In future majority of Indian people will accept Islam and convert Hindu to muslim majority, we will accept all Indian being muslim brother nation.
Why British government not separated INDUS valley from India like other nations of subcontinent. India was divided 7 times in history. 1876 Afghanistan, 1904 Nepal, 1906 Bhutan, 1907 Tibet, 1935 Sri Lanka, 1937 Burma, 1947 Pakistan ko religion base pr nahe but INDUS 🇵🇰 valley ka separate culture language and nation from Hindi nation, language and HIND Desh ko base bana kr SIND, Ballochistan, NWFP, united Kashmir Bekanir jesalmir Jodhpur Kachh Kathiawar and United Punjab, Dilhi was district of Punjab pr INDUS 🇵🇰 valley ko India se separate krna ke demand British government se karne chahei thy. Today INDUS world 🌎 ka 4th largest population 40 crores ka Desh hota. Like Burma Nepal Bhutan SriLanka ko India se separate keya gaya same pattern pr Bangla 🇧🇩 country ke demand British government se karne chahei thy United Bangal, United Assam, (Arakan Myanmar) Behar and Odessa pr Bangla 🇧🇩 country hota tu aaj world 🌎 ka 3rd largest 55 crores population ka Desh hota. Esi partition hone se migration, mass murder on base of religion na hota and Hindu muslim ke aaps m nafrat, Hindi nation ke mslm pr Gadari ke ilzam, dono Desh ke aaps m dushmani na hote. Nepal Sri Lanka Burma Afghanistan India ke friends ho skte hen tu Bangla🇧🇩 country and INDUS🇵🇰 county bhe India ke friends hote. Indian ke partition pr muslim ko badnam keya gaya. India ke partition Congress kr ke allegation Jinnah sahib pr Laga kr mazlom bn gai. Congress had accepted and approved partition of INDIA. India 1947 ko partition kr ke Hindu Rashtra bna deya gaya tha. India ke partition se pehle 11 provinces thy, Hindu majority 5 provinces. Muslim majority 5 provinces. Tribal majority Odessa 1, province. Total 11 provinces. Hindu majority provinces 1, Bombay 2, Behar 3, UP 4, CP and 5, Madras. Hindu minority provinces 1, NWFP Hindu 6% 1, Punjab Hindu 24% 3, SIND Hindu 28% 4, Assam Hindu 39% 5, Bangal Hindu 44%. 6, Odessa Tribal majority. Ese situation m India Hindu Rashtra or Raam Raaj nahe ho skta tha. Dalt Shudra molanvasi Aadivasi ko bhe muslim majority provinces and tribal majority Odessa province ke support hote. Dalt Shudra Chamar Samaj ke log SSP minister commissioner hote Birahman cast ke people sweeper, chokidar and water men Hota. Aaj BJP RSS Bajrangi workers ne depressed communities pr zulm krte hen esa Kabhe nahe hota. India powerful Desh hota China ,USA and Europe se zeyadah. Birahman political leaders Ghandhi Nehru Patel ne India ko kamzor aur khand khand kr deya.
Really informative Harris.
Thank you, Farhan 🙂
What a lamentable analysis; it is utterly devoid of coherence, logic, and sense. Jinnah merely acted in accordance with the desires of the British. You seem to favor those who speak solely within the confines of State directives. Listening to her has consistently proven to be a futile endeavor. Her interpretation has been rejected by many. To learn more, visit our channel. To truly grasp your history, read "Allama Mashriqi’s Order: 300,000 Khaksar Soldiers Reach Delhi and the Sudden Collapse of British Rule" by scholar Nasim Yousaf. Here is the link:
th-cam.com/video/F5kE4AlRsi4/w-d-xo.html
This was a great interview, looking at nuance and facts.
Mostly nuance is forgotten and people grab lazy history to form lazy conclusions, which amounts to adopting lies.
Thanks for watching. I am glad you liked it.
What in Ms Jajal's view, was Jinnah's response to INA trials where Hindu, Muslim and Sikh soldiers were being tried and that created a lot of bonhomie among all the people across India?
I’ll ask her in my next interview
Jinnah saab advocated for Shaheed Bhagat Singh in his trial.
Jinnah never supported INA. He was a staunch Empire Loyalist and a staunch Pro-British. However Jinnah was better than our Nehru, who refused to accept the INA soldiers in the Indian Army after independence but Jinnah had accepted them in the Pakistan army.
@@DipakBose-bq1vv, definitely. As an ardent Netaji admirer, I am grateful to Jinnah for that.
What About Direct Action of. Jinah. The Brutality on Hundis.
Should be condemned and most of the historians do.
Should be condemned and most of the historians do.
Congress had rejected all proposal and demands of muslim majority provinces then Jinnah sahib was issue direction of Direct Action Day.
Congress ke Birahman political leaders ko Hindu Rashtra banane ke India ke partition krne thy, un ko malom tha ke Hindu majority 5 provinces and Muslim majority 5 provinces and one tribal majority Odessa province ese power sharing se India Hindu Rashtra nahe bn skta tha. Es lei Congress all demands reject karega tu muslim Apne right ke lei fight kr ke azadi ke demand karenge Congress us azadi ke demand ko approved krdega.
Esa he huwa tha.
@@muneerahmed7530Do you know After India's independence, out of 76 years, Congress has ruled the government for more than 60 years, so till date India has not become a Hindu nation...
And a leader of Muslim League did not take part in the independence of the country but only divided the country with the British in the name of Muslim nation...
Do you support such a disgusting violent riots. What happened in direct action day..
Congress always treats all sections of the society along with others and your Jinnah has killed so many innocent people for his selfish demands and made everyone homeless.
I do not understand why does she have to defend a person of the past? It is one thing to state facts and another to simply presume intentions. After all they were all humans and have made mistakes. If she really felt that Jinnah wanted things to be sorted out before gaining independence, he would've worked towards a more thorough constitution than what India did. Infact while India continued with Mountbatten, Jinnah took over immediately. It is very clear that India put a lot of effort towards its constitution and state of affairs after freedom compared to a few speeches by Jinnah in Pakistan. I live close to Tufts, hopefully will get to ask her sometime.
I don’t think she defends him rather she presents her comprehension of the subject based on her research and this is what a historian must do, right? So to me, the history of partition is ambiguous to an extent that one could only comprehend it based on his/her research.
Secondly, you’ll find her very accommodating. She is such a nice person.
Digging old graves for nothing. Nothing will change between Pakistan and India. Both nations have extreme fundamentalists who would never let peace happen between both countries. Pakistan's Army will never ever want to make merry with India otherwise Army as an institution will collapse. It is in good faith for India if they cut all ties with Pakistan and crumbling Pakistan learn it's lesson. Only and only economic upliftment in both countries can decrease animosity against each other
I agree with every word you said. I think trade and cooperation could help ease down tension between both countries but that’s not in the interests of those who are running both countries.
@@TheWartimeLeadervajpayee paid visit to Lahore to built relations but whT he got was Kargil war, Modi paid visit to pak he got balakot and WHT not.
Historian of army
How?
Madam, Mr Jinnah chose strong center in Pakistan as against weak center in undivided India,a dichotomy of beliefs.
Very true! Ie divided Pakistan.
Why do you think he did that?
Why did Jinnah asked in his speech in 1943 in Kanpur that the Muslims of India got to sacrifice themselves to create Pakistan in the Western India if Jinnah was interested in a federal India?
Lahore Resolution of 1940 was also against the idea of a federal structure of future India.
If Jinnah was a Secular why has he propagated the Lahore Resolution as the basis of future Pakistan?
According to Ms. Jalal, Initially Jinnah wanted two units with a common center in India, both with Hindu and Muslim majorities respectively. It was Congress who didn't accept his demand and pushed for partition.
I read your comments. You seem to be defending Jalal who is defending Jinnah. I disagree with her as most logical people do. If you have a direct connection with Jalal you must do this: Do a face-off between Dr. Ayesha Jalal and Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed.
Knowing Ishtiaq sahab as I have been following him for the last few years, he will accept the invite. He is a scholar focusing on Pakistan and the Sub-Continent. I put 2 conditions if you do accept this challenge:
1) Ask simple, neutral, and unloaded questions, aimed at the interviewee and not the viewer.
2) Bring someone else like Shakil Chaudhary/ The Pakistan Experience guy to be the other interviewer to have a fair discussion.
Hetal I didn’t defend her, I just said her argument makes most sense to me. However, you must understand that the goal of my channel is not to spark debates rather to provide a perspective which audience can agree upon or reject as per their knowledge. So no point of any such thing in future.
Meanwhile if you are a fan of Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed, you could enjoy his interview that I took on the same topic a couple of years ago here:
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Has a Ruler Ever Transferred Power Without Threat? Allama Mashriqi’s Impact on Indian Independence
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"Allama Mashriqi’s Order: 300,000 Khaksar Soldiers Reach Delhi and the Sudden Collapse of British Rule"
By Nasim Yousaf.
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Has a Ruler Ever Transferred Power Without Threat? Allama Mashriqi’s Impact on Indian Independence
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پاکستان اور بھارت نے اپنی آزادی علامہ مشرقی کی پانچ لاکھ سے زیادہ خاکساروں کی فوج کی وجہ سے حاصل کی
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"Allama Mashriqi’s Order: 300,000 Khaksar Soldiers Reach Delhi and the Sudden Collapse of British Rule"
By Nasim Yousaf.
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Most logical people like you, you mean, then most people are not logical, just fantasy paddlers.
People like you prefer fiction over facts.
When a historian like Jalal is blinded by partisan views, there can be no clarity on any issue.
BS she's the objective historians that only a Pakistani chauvinist would hate.
Why do you think so?
How?
Why British government not separated INDUS valley from India like other nations of subcontinent.
India was divided 7 times in history. 1876 Afghanistan, 1904 Nepal, 1906 Bhutan, 1907 Tibet, 1935 Sri Lanka, 1937 Burma,
1947 Pakistan ko religion base pr nahe but INDUS 🇵🇰 valley ka separate culture language and nation from Hindi nation, language and HIND Desh ko base bana kr SIND, Ballochistan, NWFP, united Kashmir Bekanir jesalmir Jodhpur Kachh Kathiawar and United Punjab, Dilhi was district of Punjab pr INDUS 🇵🇰 valley ko India se separate krna ke demand British government se karne chahei thy. Today INDUS world 🌎 ka 4th largest population 40 crores ka Desh hota.
Like Burma Nepal Bhutan SriLanka ko India se separate keya gaya same pattern pr Bangla 🇧🇩 country ke demand British government se karne chahei thy United Bangal, United Assam, (Arakan Myanmar) Behar and Odessa pr Bangla 🇧🇩 country hota tu aaj world 🌎 ka 3rd largest 55 crores population ka Desh hota.
Esi partition hone se migration, mass murder on base of religion na hota and Hindu muslim ke aaps m nafrat, Hindi nation ke mslm pr Gadari ke ilzam, dono Desh ke aaps m dushmani na hote.
Nepal Sri Lanka Burma Afghanistan India ke friends ho skte hen tu Bangla🇧🇩 country and INDUS🇵🇰 county bhe India ke friends hote.
good joke ! 😂
@@subhadippaul4494 it's not joke, but failure of wishes about two different nations Bangali in East of India and INDUS in west of Endia.
@@muneerahmed7530Halwa tha na Miya ke India ko itne parts me Divide Kiya jata...
Nepal ne India me Milne Request ki thi but Nehru Government ne denied kar Diya tha....and India chahta to Bhutan ko apne Mila leta but we Respect other nations sovereignty....aap India ko east me baatna chahte ho aur Punjab kuchh sabhi me kya joke hai....ab aap apne pakistan ki socho Baluchistan Aaj nhi to kal alag hoga hi and same like Sindh too and NW frontier Taliban lega aur POK ko to Hamare me milna hi hai.... insaallah one day this will happen for sure
Has a Ruler Ever Transferred Power Without Threat? Allama Mashriqi’s Impact on Indian Independence
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پاکستان اور بھارت نے اپنی آزادی علامہ مشرقی کی پانچ لاکھ سے زیادہ خاکساروں کی فوج کی وجہ سے حاصل کی
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"Allama Mashriqi’s Order: 300,000 Khaksar Soldiers Reach Delhi and the Sudden Collapse of British Rule"
By Nasim Yousaf.
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What a lamentable analysis; it is utterly devoid of coherence, logic, and sense. Jinnah merely acted in accordance with the desires of the British. Her interpretation has been rejected by many. To learn more, visit our channel. To truly grasp your history, read "Allama Mashriqi’s Order: 300,000 Khaksar Soldiers Reach Delhi and the Sudden Collapse of British Rule" by scholar Nasim Yousaf. Here is the link:
th-cam.com/video/F5kE4AlRsi4/w-d-xo.html
JINNAH was an excellent lawyer when he started loosing his argument of MUSLIMS IN DANGER he swiftly changed IT to ISLAM IN DANGER AS A GOOD LAWYER WOULD DO he was neither a STATESMAN NOR A GOOD LEADER OR POLITICIAN , who wanted to achieve Pakistan by hook or crook and he did.
I come out more confused after listening to Ayesha ma'am. Too many contradictions and still too many open questions on what was the thinking while making Pakistan
What contradictions did you find? Can you name a few please?
Jinnah was master of running with hares and hunting with hounds.
History is not a point in time, so was not the Lahore resolution. When she means Muslim provinces she means feudal leaders, not the people who were for Pakistan. 1940 was an important inflection in history. She is a secularist married to a Hindu Bengali Hindu. How can she speak honestly about Muslim aspirations of South Asia?
Why these people live in past and became religious zeolites, no issue remain in your cocoon fir next 1000 years .
Why do you think one should not look on the past to learn?
She is obfuscating the questions asked by repeating the same theories of federalism and making excuses for Jinnah
so you think Jinnah did it by purpose? What were the gains he could get according to you???
@@TheWartimeLeader n ego massage. to prove he is equal to gandhi
@@iynshabanerjee is it that simple just the matter of ego?
@@TheWartimeLeader what is your question? What did Jinnah gain from partition? He gained being called the father of the nation. Because Muslims of the subcontinent didn’t gain much from either Pakistan or partition. Today Muslims are divided between three nations. Indian Muslims are discrimated against having to constantly prove their loyalty , Bengali Muslims have suffered a genocide at the hands of Pak army. Even within Pakistan, other than Punjabis, all other ethnicities are marginalised.
Ayesha Jalal is part of the Lahori Punjabi elite. So at the end of the day she is pro establishment. She has a romantic view of Jinnah, a school girl’s crush almost, that prevents her from truly being critical and analytical of Jinnah’s actions, which is expected of an academic. Instead, all her efforts are directed at explaining what Jinnah’s strategy was. Never dwelling into the consequences of that strategy. Intended or unintended.
She is a liar; she is not a historian. She has not mentioned Khaksar Movement, Khuda E Khitmatgar, Deoband School's thought, Jamaat E Ulema etc, in her zeal to promote Jinnah as the sole spokesman for the Muslims of British India.
she is not a historian at all..
There is no knowledge or evidence in its words, only condemnation of Congress and India and false praise of Jinnah...
And if anyone listens to Prof. Istiaq ahmed sir, then this woman's words will seem like nothing but a joke.
Only if she has a different opinion than you, you’ll not recognise her a historian?
@@TheWartimeLeader People may have different opinions, but when you criticize only one ideology without considering the facts and praise another ideology, it is wrong.
@@TheWartimeLeader I do not mind different opinion but a historian must mention different opinions of the Muslims in India before 1947 rather than mentioning Jinnah as the sole spokesman for all Muslims. Why did the Muslims of Delhi wanted to kill Jinnah in 1947 just before the partition if Jinnah was the sole spokesman? She has never mentioned that. Only 16 percent of rich land owners Muslims were allowed to vote in 1946. Do you 16 percent of the Muslims represented 100 percent of the Muslims?
Please elaborate on this incident that you are mentioning. Who wanted to kill Jinnah?@@DipakBose-bq1vv
Great analysis.
Thank you 😊
False analysis.
What a nonsense. Jinnah definitely wanted pakistan
But in united India until he realised that it can’t be achieved now.
Vert disapponting, Aysha Jalal very bookish and biased attitude of discussing the HISTORICAL FACT OF PARTITION OF india.
sir This lady Ayesha always speaks completely biased and always considers Jinnah as right and Congress as wrong..
Have also seen its previous podcasts, it does not contain any facts, only meaningless talk...
She can't be a historian
@@NileshKumar-Dl1wli True! Have the same feeling.
@@NileshKumar-Dl1wliPatel wanted Muslims to be kicked out. Read Azad's India Wins Freedom (updated version).
@@napoleonrabbit What did your Jinnah do for the Muslims of UP/Bihar and Lakhs of innocent Hindus and made all the innocents homeless?
According to you what is the true history of the partition?
Historian kia hota hey jin logoun ko ap Historian kehtay ho un say sirf yeh poosch lo rana sangram singh kon tha aur raja hassan mewati kon tha aur in say yeh sawal karo jub 1761 mein panipat mein 1 lakh 40 hazar rajput merhatay maray gay un mein musalman kitnay thay aur mughloun aur afghanoun ka sath kon detay thay aur kia yeh log hindustan kee sari history jantay hein aur kia in ko maloom hey keh india mein caste system tha religion system nahi tha log us waqat tabah hotay hein jub democracy nah ho institutions nah houn hindustan ka yehi masla tha british nay devide and rule kee policy ko samnay rakha aur kam ker dia aur jo berbadi huie sub jantay hein batein un logoun kay baray kertay hein jo british stooge thay
Apka point kya hai khul kr bataen?
Her Indian historian husband Bose is not doing good job. No question about it.😁
She is a propoganda mouthpiece. Nothing more.
I am so glad and thankful that partition actually took place.
Before partition out of 11 provinces mslm were majority in 5 provinces and Hindu were majority in 5 provinces and 1 province wasTribal majority Odessa.
Hindu minority provinces
NWFP Hindu 5%
Punjab Hindu 24%
SIND Hindu 28%
Assam Hindu 39%
Bangal Hindu 44%
Hindu majority provinces
Bombay, Behar, UP, CP and Madras.
Keya Bangali, Assamian and Punjabi nations ko religion base pr divide krna julm nahe tha.
Undivided Punjab, Bangal and Assam provinces Pakistan ka right tha, Pakistan ko dena chahei tha.
Lord Mountbatten ne national provinces ke partition kr ke 🇵🇰 and Bangali Punjabi Assamian nations ke sath julm keya tha.
Thank you for sharing this info. I hope you like our other videos too 🙂
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@@muneerahmed7530aap logo se to Bangladesh samhal nhi paye...bechare Bangladeshiyo ke upar Urdu Thop rahe the unke kapde aur colour ka majak banate the aur unhe lootte the....
Rahi baat partition me kaun sa hissa kise mile to muslim league ne Riots karwaye Bengal aur Punjab me aur lakho begunah Hindus and Sikhs ko maara taki wanha non Muslims minority me aa jaye....aap logo ne Baluchistan ko dhoka dekar kabja kiya....
But don't worry in next 10 years pakistan devide in 5 parts...
@@muneerahmed7530Can you tell what is the condition of minorities in present Pakistan?
At the time of partition, India made a mistake, at that time all the Muslims of India should be completely freed from this place so that our country becomes completely free from faltu bakwas
And if India had sent its entire Muslim population to Pakistan, Pakistan would have been destroyed immediately, so you people should consider it a favor to India.
@@NileshKumar-Dl1wli Bangali nation ka country Bangladesh aaj bhe 95% muslim Desh he.
In future Pakistan 4 or more parts m divide hoga tu phr bhe muslim countries ke members UNO m zeyadah honge.
Again we will all muslim countries can make federation with 🇵🇰🇦🇿🇧🇩 Iran central Asian and South East Asian countries.
If In future majority of Indian people will accept Islam and convert Hindu to muslim majority, we will accept all Indian being muslim brother nation.
Jalal sirf fuckistan ka historian na ki indian subcontinent ka.
Saara toh muslmano ka hi tha
Hindu toh Africa k h
Good one
Bsdk 3rd class converted madrsachap videshi arbi mazhabi chuslami gulam wo waqt btayega kon kiska he
East bengal and West Bengal pehle hi partition ho gaya tha... Research karke dekh lo
I know
So tharki Muhammad
Are you in your senses?
Why British government not separated INDUS valley from India like other nations of subcontinent.
India was divided 7 times in history. 1876 Afghanistan, 1904 Nepal, 1906 Bhutan, 1907 Tibet, 1935 Sri Lanka, 1937 Burma,
1947 Pakistan ko religion base pr nahe but INDUS 🇵🇰 valley ka separate culture language and nation from Hindi nation, language and HIND Desh ko base bana kr SIND, Ballochistan, NWFP, united Kashmir Bekanir jesalmir Jodhpur Kachh Kathiawar and United Punjab, Dilhi was district of Punjab pr INDUS 🇵🇰 valley ko India se separate krna ke demand British government se karne chahei thy. Today INDUS world 🌎 ka 4th largest population 40 crores ka Desh hota.
Like Burma Nepal Bhutan SriLanka ko India se separate keya gaya same pattern pr Bangla 🇧🇩 country ke demand British government se karne chahei thy United Bangal, United Assam, (Arakan Myanmar) Behar and Odessa pr Bangla 🇧🇩 country hota tu aaj world 🌎 ka 3rd largest 55 crores population ka Desh hota.
Esi partition hone se migration, mass murder on base of religion na hota and Hindu muslim ke aaps m nafrat, Hindi nation ke mslm pr Gadari ke ilzam, dono Desh ke aaps m dushmani na hote.
Nepal Sri Lanka Burma Afghanistan India ke friends ho skte hen tu Bangla🇧🇩 country and INDUS🇵🇰 county bhe India ke friends hote.
Indian ke partition pr muslim ko badnam keya gaya.
India ke partition Congress kr ke allegation Jinnah sahib pr Laga kr mazlom bn gai.
Congress had accepted and approved partition of INDIA.
India 1947 ko partition kr ke Hindu Rashtra bna deya gaya tha.
India ke partition se pehle 11 provinces thy,
Hindu majority 5 provinces.
Muslim majority 5 provinces.
Tribal majority Odessa 1, province.
Total 11 provinces.
Hindu majority provinces
1, Bombay 2, Behar 3, UP 4, CP and 5, Madras.
Hindu minority provinces
1, NWFP Hindu 6%
1, Punjab Hindu 24%
3, SIND Hindu 28%
4, Assam Hindu 39%
5, Bangal Hindu 44%.
6, Odessa Tribal majority.
Ese situation m India Hindu Rashtra or Raam Raaj nahe ho skta tha.
Dalt Shudra molanvasi Aadivasi ko bhe muslim majority provinces and tribal majority Odessa province ke support hote.
Dalt Shudra Chamar Samaj ke log SSP minister commissioner hote Birahman cast ke people sweeper, chokidar and water men Hota.
Aaj BJP RSS Bajrangi workers ne depressed communities pr zulm krte hen esa Kabhe nahe hota.
India powerful Desh hota China ,USA and Europe se zeyadah.
Birahman political leaders Ghandhi Nehru Patel ne India ko kamzor aur khand khand kr deya.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I really appreciate the fact that you have a good understanding of the subject 😊
Odisha is a hindu dominated area it is not islam scat hole 😂