I am a Bangladeshi.The Pakistani people repeatedly blamed India for breaking up Pakistan. But they forgot about social and economic inequalities because the then Pakistani military and administrative people hated the Bengalis. The main reason for the break up of Pakistan is inequality. Lack of justice oppression oppression
@@TheWartimeLeader In order to run a country properly, the citizens of that country have to be given equal status. When the Pak-India war broke out, the Pakistan Army got involved in the war leaving Bangladesh unprotected, which they should not have done.
Look at the irony: Bangladesh celebrate Victory Day on Dec 16 while we Pakistani still crying "Sakoot-e-Dhaka". How stupid are we! We must recognize Bangladesh as sovereign state and apologize for committing Bengali Holocaust.
On March 26, 2021 Bangladesh will celebrate 50 years of independence 🇧🇩 Pakistan is yet to formally acknowledge its shameful past of 1971 whereby its military government of Yahya Khan committed one of the worst genocides of the 20th century against the people of Bangladesh. A formal apology from the Government and people of Pakistan to the Government and people of Bangladesh over the 1971 Genocide is long overdue.
@Mr Expressu should not think about that,this is our matter,pakistan should be apologised to bangladesh for genocide,india always want to harm pakistan,but they couldn't do this if west pakistani goverment don't absorbs east pakistan,sekh mujib always wanted to be the president of united pakistan,but when west pakistan killed our general people we understand that it's can't be possible to get our rights in pakistan,on the other side india got a chance to broke pakistan,so first they give us gun and after independent india try to occupy us,when they failed they looted us and killed some people,I hope u understand the real history,pakistan was broken mainly for the west pakistani leaders and army
@Mr Express I hope you realize what you are saying and the way you are articulating is actually the language of propaganda. If you cannot have the decency to apologize, at least remain silent and abstain from disgracing the "Mukti judhho" and disrespecting the struggles of people of Bangladesh and the lives they lost. I know India's role was not of pure benevolence, but rejecting the genocide carried out in Bangladesh by the Pakistani army makes you no different from the fascists!
@Mr Express tumlogo ki adat he har baat pe india india kar k jubah se hagte rehte ho.. kal ko agar tere ghar k sandas(Toilet) k nal se paani nahi aa raha hogo toh tu v bolega,, "jarur isme kise indian ka sajis hai, use ne mere bathrom ka pano roka hoga" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 tu hagte hue v india k hamle se dara hua rehta hoga.. tere sapne me india aate hai..balakot strike hota hai.. 😁😁🤣🤣 Koi agr apne baat rakhta hai toh usme india ka haat hai na.. sach me pakistan me gadho ki kami nahi hai usme se tumek ho.. tumara sekh chily v bol raha tha.. ki kal pure pakistan me bijli chali gaye aur bolta raha india ne bijli kaat de.. hadd hai pau pau k atom bomb aur 200gm k bomb banane wale... Se aur kya umeed ki jaa sakte hai 🤣🤣🤣🤣🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
During the 1971 Bangladesh war for independence, members of the Pakistani military and Razakar raped between 200,000 and 400,000 Bangladeshi women and girls in a systematic campaign of genocidal rape.
Being a indian I think Pakistan's biggest mistake was not acceptance The theory of Unity in diversity like India. Diversity like different languages, cultural etc.
Pakistan was created by Britsh to have a client state in Indian subcontinent, Jinnah wasn't a big leader, he and his followers didn't have the vision for a successful country.
@@TheWartimeLeader They helped in our liberation. The same way China helped vietnam in their liberation from French and US. You just had an entire discussion with Prof. Jalal that you always look things through the point of view India and yet you are doing it again.
@@bokapremik I wish maybe one day I visit Bangladesh and talk to the victims of your liberation war. But for now, we both look from different perspectives and that is totally fine.
@@TheWartimeLeader if pakistan want to develop good relation with bangladesh then pakistan have to apologise for brutal atrocities they have COMITTED against bengalis pakistan has to officially accept its mistake against bangladesh then pakistan can expect forgiveness from bangladesh
I was shocked with the speaker's response to the question on what was the biggest loss for Pakistan. She replied Kashmir. Dude, you lost 56% of your fellow Bengali citizens who fervently supported the pakistan cause in 1947, who were a part of you. Her reply is a proof that we Bengalis were never a concern of yours. Pakistan has always been obsessed with Kashmir and India, totally ignoring the needs and issues of its own provinces, Bengal and Balochistan. And by calling our liberation war, Indo pak war, you totally sidelined the main actor in the situation, Bangladesh herself. Yes, we indeed took India's help. But it was our own war, never India's. You are making a supporting character the main protagonist. It was a war fought by every single Bengali. You cannot snatch away our struggle from us. India intervened in December. So the war fought between the month of March to November, is that a joke to you? You inflicted so much torture, cruelty and atrocities on your fellow countrymen that 1 crore of them had to become refugee in India. 1 crore of your fellow citizen took shelter in another country to survive from the cruelty of the army that was maintained by their own tax money. What a joke! And you are blaming India for this chaos! What was she supposed to do? How long would she feed 1 crore refugees and why should she? You massacre your countrymen when they demand for the basic legitimate democratic rights, kill their children, rape their daughters and expect them to remain loyal to you? What a joke! And we could have been in a way better position, had you not killed our most brilliant minds on 14 December. That was the lowest level of cowardice, unprecedented in the history of the world. How could you stoop so low! When you realised you cannot win the war, you killed our scholars and leaders on that day, so that we as a nation may never prosper. You should be ashamed of yourselves for what you did to us. And you call yourselves Muslims? How could you do this to your fellow Muslim brothers?
Well most of the current Pakistani generation is sympathetic to the Bengali cause as there has been a gradual realization of past antipathy the West Pakistanis inflicted upon the Bengali people. My concern as a neutral observer of history (well I'll try to my best to be one) is the intermixing of so many layers and exaggeration of facts and numbers that somewhat defy the reality on ground. While its hard to keep the emotions aside discussing the events of 71' I'll try to give my vents on the matter by keeping as rational as possible. First thing first, the start of Bangladeshi movement is said to be the product of the Bangla language in the 1950s as an impression of tyrannical imposition of Urdu language is given. Well, it should be kept in mind that Urdu wasn't indigenous of the land that constitutes West Pakistan today; but despite that people here accepted Urdu as the national language proudly. This is because there was a need of a lingua franca to give diverse federating units a binding factor. How can you expect a Punjabi or Sindhi in West Pakistan to understand Bengali or even the themselves in Pakistan? As hindi was defacto lingua franca in India therefore, Pakistan required its own- and for that I think Urdu was a smart choice because it as product of Islamic civilization in India (being an amalgamation of Sanskrit, Turkish, Arabic and Persian language). But still in order to accommodate the demands of the East Pakistani brethren the first and second constitution of Pakistan (1956 and 1962) declared Bengali as the one of the national languages of Pakistan along with Urdu.
Second point is that the historical facts contradict the so called power grabbing of the Western wing. Bengalis (even though less in number) enjoyed a considerable influence in the power structure as they were the torch bearers of the Pakistan movement. Khwaja Nazimuddin served as governor general and PM of Pakistan who is respected in the country till this day. Mohammad Ali Bogra and Hussein Suharwardy served as PMs too who had considerable influence in the government power structure with their roots in civilian bureaucracy too. Later the army imposed martial law to overthrow the civilian setup to rule the country with an iron fist under Ayub Khan for a decade; which of course is blamed for the centralization of power. But guess what? Who was the person that sanctioned the army to take over? Yes my friend it was a Bengali himself the first President of Pakistan Mr. Iskanker Mirza who allowed the dictatorial rule to abrogate the constitution and set a precedence that would haunt the country for years. So the irony lays down here!
@@m.shahrukhkhansadiq1648 Can you please explain to me why Bangladeshis are not interested in talking about the native Bengali Hindus, who were the original inhabitants of Bangladesh, having to migrate from East Pakistan /Bangladesh after 1947. Why is the sharp demographic decline of the Bengali minorities of Bangladesh never talked about nor the deliberate rapes & murders of these minorities in 1971? Has their been a Truth & Reconciliation Committee in Bangladesh about it or any apology ? If Bangladesh itself does not hold any accountability for such things nor does it do anything to attract the native minorities who fled Bangladesh back, then why should it expect anything better from other countries?
From Bangladeshi Perspective , it was not " Fall of Dhaka " . The correct term should be " Rise of Dhaka " from oppression , after all - 16th of December 1971 was ( is ) the Victory day of Bangladesh .
@@Whitefogfly Bangladesh declared Independence on 26th of March 1971 , so it was already a independent country , it defeated the illegal occupiers ( who denied the lawful winner of 1970 election to rule the Country ), west Pakistanis on 16th of December 1971 "The Victory day of Bangladesh over Pakistan" so it was the " RISE OF DHAKA / BANGLADESH " not fall . And Bangladesh ( along with West Bengal ) could have emerged as Independent country in 1947 but it chose to join West Pakistan, which proved to be a historically wrong decision . Bengalis Formed Muslim league & Pakistan , not the other way round . Pakistanis simply did not understand that.
@@Whitefogfly Now you insulted me & my country . I started doubting your intellectual ability as I already provided you a history lesson. I repeat , as far as Bangladesh is concerned it was Independent ( declared by the legally winner of a democratic election in 1970 ) since 26th of March 1971 . West Pakistani Forces were staying in Bangladesh illegally and killing millions , We fought back and final Victory against the Enemy came on 16th of December 1971. " DHAKA ROSE " against occupiers . Pakistan fall / Lost.
@@TheWartimeLeader What type of question is this? pakistan is a rogue state and a terrorist state.Pakistan always blame hindu and pakistan have huge hatred for hindus.I heard several pakistani talk show on liberation war of Bangladesh.There they clearly b lamed hindus.That shows the mentality of pakistani people.In bangla from 1000 years we both hindu muslims live peacefully.In 1971 pakistan army genocided and killed 3 million bengali people and raped 400000 bengali women.pakistan army targeted all the hindu family and their place.That shows the mentality of pakistanis.We are thankful to India they helped us in 1971 and we got victory. Long live Bangladesh India friendship.
East bengal was far more politically active then pakistan during, befrore and after 1947 participation. Their were bigger leaders then jinnah in bengal in muslim leagues before the creation of pakistan. Mujibur rahman & bengalis never wanted to separate but pakistan started it.
Thankyou for your input. I agree with you and Pakistan should have looked onto a political solution for both of its parts but unfortunately poor administration and lack of political aptitude resulted in the loss of its half.
I would say 99% mistakes done by west pakistan gov. And pak army and later 1% mistake done by india thats the reason of creation of bangladesh if you think pakistanis prospective as an indian i can think i wont even blame india
@@TheWartimeLeader i wont say that india got opportunity back then india was facing huge refugee crisis thats actually adding the economic pressure to india back then indian govt. Was not rich we collected donation to raise the refugees if pakistan contain the refugees would not have let to come in india pakistan may have not broken thats the mistake done by pakistan i can still see in your most of media outlet and your retired generals they still put on 100% blame on india i reckon pakistan need to reform on this topic they dont have to blame india or you can say india took the revenge of operation gibraltor when pakistan send their lashkares and pak soldier as a kasmiri citizen in indian union territory kashmir pakistan although pakistan lost everything let me tell you one thing india also took the some strategic part of pakistan ocupied side kashmir and india has gone beyond the previous kashmir cease fire line which now called loc pakistani army hide this failure against india and the futre there is no possibility kashmir can never be seperated from india or gets freedom whether i can born 7 times in pakistan there may be only one soltution in the future loc can be international border then the realtion can be better b/w india and pakistan this what i can think india never gonna compromise with its own territory even no one would like to comromise their own territory plebicite cannot possible becoz pok demography has been deeply changed specially in gilgit baltistan i can prove you that in 1972 pakistan abolish the state subject rule which gave rights to pakistani other states people specially sunni they can buy land in gilgit baltistan this resulted huge demographic change india is not fool india is never gonna make plebicite india always argue this what do you reckon
Yes but i think 1948 and 1965’s revenge was also in India’s mind as Indira Gandhi once said that today india has taken its revenge of Kashmir. However, i don’t think the demographics of GB has changed. The region is still populated with the locals and there is no dispute. Even in Pakistan’s Kashmir there is no dispute by the locals. Pakistan has always facilitated its princely states unlike India. Honestly, i see a flaw in India’s strategy of handling Kashmir. The dynamics are very different in the region, how things operate is different too, by force India could not hold at it for long and this would create more escalation of events between India Pak and create a East Pakistan like situation. A peaceful solution is much needed today in Kashmir.
Madam, Can u not understand, what was the vision of six points? - the vision of six points were basically for protecting the economy of East Pakistan from West Pakistan, as West Pakistan was stealing the revenues of jute industry of Bangladesh, to develop their sides. (Bangladesh was producing more than 70% revenues of total exports of Pakistan, but there was almost no development in Bangladesh). That’s why Sk mujib wanted two currencies for two wings of Pakistan, but with easily convertible in both sides of Pakistan (like the separate currencies of England & Scotland is still found in UK).
The two nation now 3 nation concept is a failed concept .it should never have happened thanks to the politicians ot that era partition has happened and even 700 years from now there will be no peace in the sub continent
Believe me, we (Pakistanis) are extremely happy today that you guys have your own independent country. We even want you guys to merge with your lovely neighbors, India as you guys have more in common with them than us. Bangladesh should've been a separate country from Pakistan since 1947. There was nothing in common b/w East & West Pakistan. P A K I S T A N means the land of *P*unjab, British *A*fghan province, *K*ashmir, *S*indh and Balochis*TAN*. There is no 'Bengal' in Pakistan. All the federating units of Pakistan have three things in common: Islam, Indus Valley Civilisation (IVC) and Aryan heritage. Bengalis don't have these things in common with Pakistanis.
@@Lyallpuriya Bengalis made Pakistan. Even a Bengali proposed the name of Pakistan first. The lists will not be finished. 😝 Without Bengalis strikes, present Pakistani land would’ve been under Indian territory since 1947. Just a tell a great leader’s name from ur territory (Punjab, sindh etc) who had great impacts against British empire to make Pakistan in 1947. - there’s nobody in ur territory whom British took seriously. It’s for Bengalis, Britain got forced to divide Indian subcontinent. You are nowhere in the history. Anyways, you are talking about merging with India. And, you said, Pakistan is the land of Aryan heritage. Yes, most of you are converted Muslims from Hindu. So, today or tomorrow, Pakistan will be part of India again. And, talking about the Bengal history, Bengalis ancient name is Gangaridae nation. We ruled whole India including you. Our mighty Bengali king Asoka invaded whole India and was the spreader of Buddhism religion against Hinduism established 2,500 years ago. Yes, Bengalis is the founder nation of Buddhism religion in the world. To know more about Gangaridae nation, do google it. Muslim Bengalis converted from Buddhism, not like you dirty hindu from idolatries worshippers’ families. So, Pakistan would be perfect to merge with India. We Bengalis are unique from Indian and you who are converted from Hindu to Muslim people in terms of territory, heritage, cultures, religion etc. since ancient period. Do some study. We Bengali are the only nation in Indian subcontinent who fought against Britain because we have balls. We are not like you transgender people. In fact, in 1857, Bengal regiment declared the war against Britain empire throughout soldiers mutiny, but Punjab and gorkha regiment helped British empire to defeat Bengal regiment during the period. Otherwise, we could liberated India 100 years ago, in 1857. In that sense, you were actually pimp of Britain in India. If I start to tell your history in detail, u cannot tolerate it. So, I’m stopping here. However, Bangladesh was a sovereign country, is a sovereign country, will be a sovereign county, whether you are happy or not.
@@Lyallpuriya and, historically, Punjab people were like this, hum larengey, marengey, karenga etc.... But, when it comes to full scale of wars, they became just like doomed. For example, Alexander massacred Punjab 2500 years ago. But, our Bengal king (Nanda dynasty) defeated Alexander). Therefore, throughout our Mauriyan empire, we recovered whole India from Greek army. That’s why, you have seen Buddhist monasteries in Pakistan, as Asoka was a part mauriyan empire. In fact, 400 years ago, with the help of Bengal soldiers, sher shah defeated Mughal emperor humayun and invaded Delhi. Even Akbar didn’t defeat our king isha kha. And, in 1971 war, it was just phenomenal as the enemy was inside our land and cantonments. But Bengalis proved, we are born fighters. Our history is same since last 4000 years. What’s your history? You have nothing but being a looser nation. It’s not me, history is saying that. I didn’t find any glorious history of yours. All outsiders came to your land and fucked you up since last 2,500 years. But, in 1947, for Bengalis, you got a free land luckily.
I was born a year after Partition of India so don't have firsthand knowledge of events leading to it. But I remember the huge economic burden looking after millions of refugees from East Pakistan. One had to affix a separate postal stamp marked refugee relief. Both Bhutto and Pakistani military refuse to accept Sheikh Mujibur Rahman's victory and make him the PM of Pakistan. As a young man, my memories of him are those of a young revolutionary who was fired with zeal to get a fair deal for East Pakistan. The claim that Jinnah didn't want partition of Punjab and Bengal and that he only wanted a federal or power-sharing arrangement are unconvincing. He asked for a Muslim 'homeland' from which he was prepared to exclude linguistic and religious minorities. The emergence of Bangladesh is the result of Pakistani ruling elite- both Punjabis and military- suppressing the legitimate aspirations of Bengalis.
Pakistan was formed on basis of religion and is not a secular nation. Bangladesh was formed on basis of culture and language & is a democratic nation. That's a major reason of it doing well.
If Pakistan was not formed in ,1947, how could you get Bangladesh from India? Bangladeshi politician before sk Mujib pleaded for the formation of Pakistan then only it was separated from India otherwise not.
pakistan has an opportunity to beg apologize to Bangladesh at 50 years Birthday of Bangladesh in 2021. As a Bangladeshi, I always hate Pakistani approach with Bangladesh in 1971.......And I never forgive pakistan for the genocide they did in my country,with my people in 1971.
Brother during the period from 1972 to 1980 millions of bangalies migrated to Pakistan due to poor environment created by mukti bahini and the militants of SHEIKH MUJEEB UR REHMAN in Bangladesh. at the moment there are 4 million bangalies living in Karachi with all the fundamental rights which an ordinary Pakistani is availing neither the government agencies nor pak army disturbing them as they are our Muslim brothers. Brother come out from the dirty politics of SHEIKH MUJEEB UR REHMAN and Indian propagainda. Lots of love ❤️ and prayers for our beloved East Pakistani brothers 🇵🇰❤️🇵🇰❤️🇵🇰❤️🇵🇰❤️🇵🇰❤️
There was no similarities between East Pakistan and West Pakistan..We bengalis had a rich culture since before...We, Bangladeshi were totally different than Pakistan culturally, economically and in terms of so many factors..Bengali people started hating Pakistan after 1952, when Muhammad Ali Jinnah declared Urdu as a state language.That was the 1st stage of division..Then in 1954 Bengali Awami Muslim league did not get the chair in spite of getting victory...That thing gradually led to the war of 1971...Must have to admit that Pakistani Army rulers played a great role to divide East Pakistan from The West..one thing to remember , India did not give us freedom, Actually at that time India and Soviet Union(Russia) helped us a lot to get freedom.The USA was on the Pakistani side. Anyway we are happy living in our country peacefully..I wish Our country would prosper a lot in near future..
Ayesha Jalal claims Jinnah used the idea of an independent Pakistan as a negotiation tool pre-independence. She cites his acceptance of the Cabinet mission plan as evidence. But could not the same be said of Jinnah's insistence for regional autonomy? Was this not also just a negotiation tool since he later abolished regional autonomy post-independence?
He never abolished regional autonomy after independence. I would highly recommend you to stop watching Republic TV and ZEE news so that you can use your brain instead making up stuff right from your ass.
Pakistan's mistakes from birth are as follows: 1) Insulting the majority Bengali language, 2) Not allowing Bengalis to come into the power even after winning the election in1954, 3) Treating Bengalis as colonies, 4) Ayub Khan imposed martial law to rule the country illegally for 12 years and against Bengalis exploitation and oppression, and 5) To disarm the army without handing over power as the victorious leader of the whole of Pakistan in the 1970 national elections.
Guys read Blood Telegram by Garry J Bass. This book is one of the finest book on the Indo-Pak war, 1971. Off the topic- Ayesha Jalal mam is the wife of Sugata Bose(nephew of Netaji). Calcutta's daughter in law.
Thanks to Allah we are separated. Alhamudillah we are going good by every means be that political stability or economic development. We may forgive you Pakistan for the atrocities you did to us but we will never forget. The death of 3 million martyr will never be forgotten. We can be acquaintances but As long as there's no apologies from the government of pakistan, we never can be friends.
Your guest did not clarify what the contradictions were with the 6 points. Mujib fought the election with 6 points being his election manifesto. The election was fair and democratic. Mujib was the clear winner. Why did Bhutto raise objection after the election. Yahya then colluded with Bhutto and decided to cancel the assembly. Bhutto boycotted and threatened his MPs. Is it not clear who was responsible for the blunder. It was clearly because Bhutto lost the election. However the story is long. It started with inequality, injustices, discrimination, domination and looting of resources from the East to the West. You can discuss, debate and argue to avoid owning up the misdeeds. It makes not a little bit of difference to the Bengalis. Unfortunately they had to fight twice for freedom. But the traitors let them down.
Madam & Sir, enmity between hindus & muslims was the core basis of Mr Jinnah's thesis about Pakistan. This enmity has become stronger over the past 77 years all through the indian subcontinent.
The main reason for the fall of Pakistan and creation of Pakistan and Bangladesh is the dominative, racism nature of Punjabi people and west Pakistani politicians. We People of Bangladesh always think that West Pakistani military and Politicians started making discrimination and outrage after journey of Pakistan. And they did it clearly. West Pakistan tried to push us to accept Urdu and Pakistani Culture in the name of religion. They made discrimination each and every sector with Us. And actually they thought east Pakistan I mean present Bangladesh was a cash cow for the west Pakistan. We didn’t get our political rights properly durning Pakistan regime. So why east Pakistan will stay with west? 1952's language movement, 1958-69 Ayyub khan's dictatorship, 1966's 6 points movements, 1969 mass movement and Agartala conspiracy case, 1970's national election, cyclones and 1971's killing of General people of Bangladesh !! Don't it enough causes for falling Pakistan?
Bro that was Bangladesh for more than thousand of years. Coward Ayub khan wanted to make it "East Pakistan". Do you called Sindh as "Costal Pakistan" or Baluchistan as "Hilly Pakistan" or Punjab as "Central Pakistan" then why Ayub khan tried to make Bangla " East Pakistan". We are "Bangali" and we are proud of that but they try to make us "East Pakistani" and this is the main cause of separation.
@Badal Hossain I know what Desh means. But that wasn't the name of the country. It was always known as Bengal, or East Bengal. It was never called Bangladesh until '71. Ignoramus.
@Badal Hossain What was it before East Pakistan? And how is your comment even relevant? If anything it debunks your point. The state's name is Bangladesh.
Urdu was not language of Pakistan. Bengali was language of 56% peoples. Why opened brush fire on protesting unarmed students? In 1971 massive genocide of Bengali peoples started and continued upto surrendering of pakistan army. Provincial autonomy is not proposal of separation.
2020: Still Pakistani Army playing Game in Pakistan!!! If Pakistani general people can not decrease Army's influence in policy making!! Then this kind of shameful history will be repeated again and again!!
Unless Bangladeshi people rise up against fascist dictatorship of Awami League Bangladeshis can never be freed from bs that has been inflicted into Bangladeshi minds by their dictator governments.
@@Lyallpuriya Look, who's giving lecture of dictatorship!!! Your country is going backward because of dictatorship of Army!! And you are here to give lecture about others!! Oil your own machine!! Many years ago Bangladesh passed Pakistan in almost all index. Nowadays Bangladesh passing India also in some index!! You must take courage and idea from us to shine your own country!! Cause begging is not good for any country image!!!
@@shawan1st At least in our elections, we elect +20 different political parties. In our nation's history, not a single party has won a simple majority while in your country over 96% of the parliament is dominated by one single party. Now, tell me which one is a dictatorship? The one with free media, free & fair elections, independent judiciary and strong institutions or the ones whose election results looks more like North Korean elections. There is literally zero freedom of speech and zero concept of free media in Bangladesh. There are more journalists in Bangladeshi jails than Pakistani jails. How many opposition leaders are in jail or put to death in Pakistan? Now, compare that with Bangladesh where all the opposition is either in jail or killed by your dictator queen Shaikh Hasina. Everyone knows how Urdu-speaking Biharis, Rohingya refugees and Chakma Buddhists are regularly persecuted in your police state. Your country's Hindu population share has declined from 22% in 1971 to less than 8% in 2022. Secondly, which indexes you are referring to? GDP growth rate and the Nominal GDP then yes, Bangladesh has surpassed Pakistan in those indexes but why don't you look at your GDP in terms of Purchasing Power Parity (PPP)? Pakistan's GDP (PPP) is over $1.3 trillion while your GDP (PPP) is just above $900 billion. Also, poverty rate in your country is 29.4% while in Pakistan it is 21.9%. Pakistan is literally ranked as the 9th most powerful country in the military index while your tiny country is just at 46th. Your whole nation's exports are based on just selling textiles, jute and fishes while we export fighter jets, tanks, attack helicopter, drones, missiles, etc. Lastly, I don't think you guys should have any audacity to call us beggars. If buying loans from international banks and other countries is considered "begging" then the United States is the biggest beggar in the world. Your own country's Debt-to-GDP ratio is over 41%. So you better take care of your own tiny shithole country before lecturing us!
@@Lyallpuriya You Pakistanis destroyed our country and you're calling it a shithole. Our Hindu population went down because the Pakistani military went out to kill them. So they either died or fled to India. I can't believe you guys call yourselves Muslims. In your nation's history not a single Prime minister has sat a full 5 year term.
It was Bangladeshi Mukti Bahini which won the war and Pakistan created a World Record. Only Army in the world to go down on it's knees and surrender to Civilians Bangladeshi Mukti Bahini after WW II.
Really? But history tells that It was India who fought the war side by side with Mukti Bahini! What proof do you have for your argument my dear brother?
@@TheWartimeLeader Go get educated. Mukti Bahini started resistance movement much earlier on 4th. April 1971. India entered in the conflict on 3rd. December 1971. India never denied it's assistance to Mukti Bahini. One of the reasons for India's intervation was flood of refugees fleeing from Pakistani Army's atrocities in to India. It is on record that then Prime Minister of India Indira Gandhi requested Henry Kissinger to do something about this issue at a Breakfast meeting when he stopped over in New Delhi during July 1971 ,on the way to China. Henry Kissinger refused to intervene, Indira Gandhi responded " If you cannot do anything to address the issue I will have to ask my Armed Forces to take action". Yes Pakistani Army surrendered to Indian Army but in presence of thousands of Mukti Bahini fighters. How humiliating it would have been if Pakistani Army was made to surrender to Mukti Bahini? Mukti Bahini did not have resources to keep more than 93,000 POWs.
@@TheWartimeLeader Both mukti bahini and Indian armed forces fought the war.The result is 93000 pak army surrender.The biggest surrender after WW2.😂😂😂😂😂
Distorted history to favor Jinnah. Dhaka did not fall, it was the RISE of Dhaka from being the Colony of Punjabis. Liberation seeds were planted by Jinnah in 1948 in Dhaka when he said, "Urdu and only Urdu will be the language of Pakistan, Bengalis said NO. The last Nawab Sirajuddowla ruled Bengal, Bihar, Orissa and Assam. Bengal was considered the richest region of India and the British East India Company started by conquering through treachery. When talks of independence started, Sarat Chandra Bose (Netaji's elder brother), Suhrawardy and others wanted to keep Bengal United but Nehru (having affair with Lady Mountbatten) and Patel objected. Jinnah, a lawyer from India, family of Jains, wanted to be Prime Minister and so did Nehru. Gandhi couldn't resolve the differences so Jinnah had to settle for Pakistan, family converting to Shiism but became leader of Sunni Pakistan and transplanted the Urdu language from UP, India that was spoken by only 6% of the population. The Punjabis, who considered themselves martial people (after all, they are descendants of Alexander's Army) would not hand over power to short, dark Bengalis (1954, 1970) so Bengalis had it enough and drove 93, 000 Punjabis out with the help of India. Tell true history, so-called intellectuals.to young people. Proud Bangladeshi, from Boston, USA (Dr. Mansur)
@@TheWartimeLeader myself is a bangladeshi, and the 1971 thing was not ever a war, can be described a battle, and it is highly exaggerated, we Bengalis killed many biharis (stranded pakistanis) and none talk about that, many of us are pure hypocrites.....
@@vengyfries6934 when conflicts end, truth dies - falsehood survives. We have been told a one-sided account of events. Reality is very different. India, West Pakistan and Mukti Bahini are equal culprits in this crisis. My heart bleeds for the common people who suffered.
@@TheWartimeLeader exactly there are wrongdoers among all of us, but again the wrogdoings of west Pakistan is highly exaggerated....Bangladesh is a sovereign nation...but what did it achieve? is it a highly developed nation? no we all sucks....we should follow Islam
Madam, your statement that India is a worst possible neighbor, proves that Pakistanis are living in fool's paradise. Just look at China, the darling of Pakistan these days, unki bhi kisise nahi jamati phir bhi it is a power. Pakistan is, perhaps, afraid of India as a power. Please note that India is a power to recogne with. Once Pakistan learns this, it will strive to remain a good neighbor.
East Pakistan was not a part of Pakistan. It was Pakistan that time. But only for one sided domination and discrimination Bangladesh had to reborn. But Madam Prof. Ayesha Jalal is an absolutely honest person. I must respect her. -Mohiminul Khan, Department of Mass Communication and Journalism, University of Dhaka.
@@TheWartimeLeader yes but if u have thinking for country policy nd behavior on the base of religion..the result will be Bangladesh..democracy nd religion can go together..for the nation so survival depends on Pakistan who they chose future..nd future will depend
@@TheWartimeLeader dear Harris please understand nation is new concept..emerge from French revolution which is fundamental revolution against Catholic church..so its denounce the religion powers in states or nation..so if u believe in modern nation state there should be no official or unofficial religion of nation its fundamental rules for nation state
@@TheWartimeLeader democracy gives equal economic, legal, constitutional, social rights to all its citizens irrespective of religion. In Pakistan non-Muslims cannot hold top public office in govt like PM, President, etc. while in India anyone can become anything. A Sikh had been PM.
Nobody responsible for separation of east pakistan. Prof Aeysha was not present in east Pakistan from march71 to surrendering of pakistan military. Purani daastan bakwas kerney ki zarurat nehi. She don't know actual history and reason of separation of east Pakistan. Genocide of Bengali peoples started by Pakistan army from march71 and continued upto surrendering of pakistan military.
How Muslim nation like pakistan, killed 3 million Bangladeshi Muslim civilians ( which was their own people). How would you justify this. Pakistan never thought it’s one nation in first place. Pakistan arrogance and spumiest attitude towards Bengali, caused fall of Pakistan.
You can justify your crimes and atrocities as much as you want, but the fact doesn’t change that Bengalis were the majlums, and no matter who you are: Allah Taalla is always on the side of the majlums. Our cries reached to Him and He Himself helped us, as simple as that.
And I am sure Allah taa’la told you to categorise people or to judge them? A) I am not justifying anything. B) Bringing the truth on mainstream from conventional stories is my tribute to the innocent people of East Pakistan who were victimised and politically affected by west Pakistani administration.
@@TheWartimeLeader If I am the victim yes, I have every right to judge the oppressors. This lady you were interviewing, she is telling the truth? I don’t think so. Telling as it happened and telling half truth is two different things. You parasites sucked our resources to the point that it took us 50 years to recover from that.
@@sarfarajshahjahan2745 every one believes that the version of truth they have is the real one but let me tell you something brother, she is a worldwide renowned historian and not only that they teaches in US so i believe this is enough to justify her neutral stance. Secondly whatever has happened to East Pakistan was wrong and to condemn that i did this show to bring truth upfront. This is the only thing i can do as i couldn’t change the history. This shown me being neutral. Now what Bangladesh is today doesn’t only depends upon what it gone through the hands of West Pakistan but afterwards too. What ever happened after your independence is also a contributing factor to your current condition. There were coups after coups, toppling of governments until the last 15 years and so. So i think you should be unbiased while you analyse history.
Jinnah never wanted Pakistan but had to. Mujib never wanted Bangladesh but had to. Butto never wanted to join hands with military (establishment) but had to. What is she saying? She is a modern day apologist defending the undefendables. It is like saying Hitler didn't want to kill Jews but he had to. What kind of Historist is she.
@@TheWartimeLeader That is what the Historist is alluding to. She is implying that they had to make those 'hard' choices in those 'hard' circumstances and that we should sympathise with them. A novelist cooking drama than being a Historist.
@@TheWartimeLeader It doesn't matter. The choices were made (past). It is futile. To sympathise or not is our choice and it is futile to waste our emotions on them.
@@rajeshbhardwajjbtaen kese? Nepal se pechle saal hi border dispute chal raha tha China se bhi ladak pr clashes hue aur Srilanka se fishing pr confrontation hoti rehti he to phr kese na hua?
@@TheWartimeLeader abe chutiye aise to tumhare bhi har neighour se problem hai. india, afg- durand line, aur china se dar kar shaksgam valley unko de di. saale gulaam ho tum
@@TheWartimeLeader India has very good relation with Bangladesh.Every year 1.6 million Bangladeshi people visited India.India is the 2nd largest trade partner of Bangladesh.Some days ago Bangladesh India friendship pipeline inaugurated.BIndia uses Chittagong and mongla port.Ganga vilas visited Bangladesh some days ago.India is the largest development partner of Bangladesh.
it should be remembered that bengal has a different intellectual mindset with ancient literatüre dance drama music folk food dress etc.... western people looked down on dark colored short bengalis with less money but much more intellectually and cultured people and also 54% of pakistan.... brute force over superior intellectuals and culture can never win... best wishes...
Pakistani people should listen to these intellectuals and historians since these people have no interest/business with 'politicians' nor 'military establishment', rather analyzing historical events with facts and evidence along with timeline. Obviously in their analysis, there is no place of nonsense 'conspiracy theories' or 'twisted perspective' but based on facts and evidence. Most importantly it would take great deal of knowledge on historical events with details and professional analysis/research to come to a conclusion on given issues/events which could be considered as reliable/acceptable to learn on. So called experts on many TV talk shows, only can shed light on some dots but far from the truth, and most of the time used as a tool to mislead people for their liking. As a Bangladeshi, I hope Pakistani people rather listen to these intellectuals and historians (by profession) to learn actual history instead of those 'talk show experts'. Otherwise as they say, 'history will repeat', meaning 'same mistake will repeat' in a way or another.
Pakistan's biggest mistake was the genocide of March 25, 1971 and then the mass killing/genocide during the liberation war. They have broken the rules of the Geneva Convention at that time. After independence, we Bangladeshis requested the government of Pakistan to apologize to Bangladesh for the 1971 mass killing/massacre, but Pakistan did not agree to apologize to Bangladesh as a state. So, if the government of Pakistan does not feel sorry for the mistakes of the past, how can we accept or cooperate with them? No doubt that, we love Pakistani people but Pakistani government or responsible people need to feel this issue. জয় বাংলা 🇧🇩 🇵🇰
We Pakistani people too love our bangladeshi brothers and we also want our government to initiate friendly relations with bangladesh by apologising on the debacle of East Pakistan.
Only Allah knows who is a true muslim and who is not. And it is up to no human being to declare who is a true muslim and who is not. That is itself an unbelievable audacity and display of arrogance! I am often disgusted by the condescending tone of the Pakistanis about us Bangladeshis, be it regarding our diet, our looks, our skin color or even our religiosity! I mean seriously, how are you people still so narrow minded?
I absolutely support every word of yours. I am a Pakistani and I must tell you majority of us Pakistani don’t think that way. Many Bangladeshis work here in Pakistan and they live like all of us.
Ayesha Jalal represents the Lahori-Punjabi elite of Pakistan that has captured the state and its institutions. Her high handedness is evident through her brusque answers to audience questions at Lit fests, or when she dismisses works of other historians. Here she says 'Bangladesh hasn't done too badly'!! I mean.. facepalm at the condescension!!!! Bangladesh has not only not done badly, they have whooped pakistan's ass on all indicators!!!
i was a student in kolkata at that time and i have witnessed the genocide of thirty million brothers of beñgal.... half a million were raped... five million refugees flooded into india.... severe food shortages happened and then pakistan attacked india on 3rd dec 1971.... india always retaliates furiously... pak assets were bombed and wiped out from karachi port and chitagong followed by huge paradropping on dhaka and wiping out of governor house and army centres... pak army surrendered ninety three thousand soldiers taken prisoners and happy bangladesh was born amongst huge cheers in bengal india kolkata dhaka....
Pakistan was start to going down when ayub khan take power as marshal administrator. Because democracy was destroyed that time to until now. look the current situation!!! Army is as needed power all over the world 🌎. But this military (Pak Army) interrupt all over the place.
Return from Dhaka 27 th March 1971 at Karachi airport Bhutto said about army operation ‘ Thank god Pakistan has saved ‘ . Ayesha Jalal did not said about this .
Once he decided to tow the Military's line - as a politician he would say that. Prof Ayesha has correctly said that Power was with Army. Bhutto could have sacrificed his political career by not taking Army's side there he failed.
@@TheWartimeLeader You are welcome to call her whatever you like but from a viewers perspective it seems excessive to call her Ma'am each time. You could call her Professor every now and then. Sometimes when you interject you could also say: 'If I may ask' 'Allow me ask' Etc Etc The above are still respectful without being excessive. Anyways, thank you for an excellent upload. I am now subscribed to your channel.
Your title is completely wrong! What do you mean 'Why Dhaka fell' if anything we rose from the injustice of Pakistani's who wanted us to speak urdu instead of our own mother tongue Bangla. It was pure racism towards the bengali race wanting to take away our culture and heritage. If they allowed us to compete in Elections and allowed us to live our life we may of been still together
@@TheWartimeLeader When there is weakness from within an outsider tries to come to either conquer or rule in the case of East Pakistan and West Pakistan this is exactly what happened the system was weak crul and one sided when that happens it's very easy to take advantage and seperate. This is exactly what India did to us. Our religion should of kept us together we should seen each other as brothers instead the higher power had it's own agenda to demolish Bengali culture instead of welcoming it. India has so many different languages and religion yet they managed to stay together till today this is because they did not try to inforce another culture or takeaway ones tradition. I think this is the mistake that was made by the Pakistani government.
@@mahfujurrahman8057 Unfortunately, I think you should understand that religion isn't the only factor which glues a nation together. The premise itself is wrong, because if it were true, the Arabian Peninsula would be one big Islamic country & not diverse Islamic kingdoms.
Sheikh Mujib Aur Hum Bhi Nahi Cahate The Ki East Pakistan (Now Bangladesh) New Country Ho Jay...... Sheikh Mujib Too 1970 Vate Mai Jeeta Tha... He Was Legal President Of 2 Pakistan, But Z.A Bhutto And Yahiya Was Not Accept to East Pakistan And Sheikh Mujib Will dominate The Whole Pakistan...
It was the Fall of East Pakistan subsequently causing it to be the Rise of Dhaka, sorry but fix your english terminology it's not going to work on us Bengalis.
The USA has one language which is English inspite of having immigrants from all over the world. Jinnah was correct in declaring Urdu as the national language and English as the official language. It was imperative to have one national language to unite a country.Secondly,the official language of the ruling Muslim Empires of India was either Persian,Turkish and later Urdu but never Bengali.Bengali was just a reginal language like Punjabi, Sindhi etc.
So, I speak as someone who spent most of my life in the U.S. consider myself American of Bengali heritage and I’m also a sociologist and niece of a Mukhti Bahini. Firstly, the U.S. is a settler colonial state that committed its own genocide and has its own problematic history so I’m not sure that this is an appropriate argument. Leaving aside African slaves and native people, immigrants came to the U.S. knowing and accepting that they would have to assimilate to Anglo-American society. What happened in South Asia was something completely different. Bengalis were internally colonized by Pakistan and at some point, enough was enough and India with its own geopolitical interests took advantage. Also, as far as nations with linguistic pluralism-have you ever heard of Switzerland? That was I hope a rhetorical question.
@Redwan Rahman ,Bengali being written in the Hindu Sanskrit had nothing to do with the culture and civilization of the Muslims of India.It was just confined to the state of Bengal. Secondly,all the educated elite of East Pakistan could read and write in Persian,Urdu,Arabic and English.The solution to this Bengali language was to convert the Sanskrit alphabet to the Muslim Persian/Arabic alphabet instead of the Hindu Sanskrit alphabet just like it was done in the case of Punjabi,Sindhi,Kashmiri in West Pakistan.
@Redwan Rahman Also I want to remind you ignorant Bengali nationalists that Farsi was the official language of the Muslims rulers of Bengal which ruled all Bengal for almost 600 years.And Urdu is far closer to Farsi than the Bengali written in the Hindu Script.All the books published during the Muslim rule are published in Farsi and not in the Hindu Sanskrit which you Bengalis consider your own.It was during the British rule who encouraged the Hindu Bengali and their culture to advance in all of Bengal making the Muslims impoverished.
@Redwan Rahman ,You don't understand the Muslim rule in India because you are probably brainwashed.Nobody was asking you to leave the Bengali language but our Muslim civilization in India has it's origin in Central Asia and the Middle East and not some Sanskrit or prakit which is same Hindu shit to me.The Bengali alphabet should have been changed to the Persian/Arabic script in 1947 and that should have been the end of it.That's how even West Pakistanis would have an easier time to learn and read Bengali.Urdu was the national language in most British India and even Hindus and Sikhs admired its sophistication.Don;t forget that people in Pakistan still speak their reginal languages but they are all written in the Persian/Arabic script.Even the great Persian Empire when fell to the Muslims changed their script to Arabic but retained their language.Same is the case with the Seljuks,Ottomans,Mamluks,Spanish Muslims and so on.Don't you Bangladeshi learn the Arabic script when reciting the Quran?
@Redwan Rahman And just to remind you none of the Muslim Empires in India of which you and I are the product never adopted the Hindu Sanskrit or prakit to rule india.They always retained the Persian/Arabic script instead of adopting the local Sanskrit script of the Hindus for their 700 years rule over India.The Farsi/Arabic script is the basis of our Muslim civilization in the Indian subcontinent and not Hindu Sanskrit or Prakit which is alien to our civilization.
As Bangladeshi, I begin with saying that, we still respect pakistan's people. Bangalis have great contribution in building west Pakistan, however Bangalis were never treated equally with respect by pakistan's political leaders. During the east pakistan's era in 60s Bangali people were suppressed by the west pakistan's government, our language, our freedom, our identity were suppressed by west Pakistan. We were considered weak. Finally, Shaikh Mujibur Rahman and many others have decided it's Enough and the people of Bangladesh united to be free from Pakistan. Alhumdullilah with the help of Allah, we gained our freedom. Even though, During war, pakistan's military raped our woman, and killed millions of Bangali people. Our Bangali freedom fighters fought well and won the war. Bangladesh exist now , and we Bangali people still respect pakistan's people. However, We are proud Bangali people, and we will never forget pain, hope you guys understand your mistakes. Thank you.
It is patently false that Bhutto said that he would break the legs of those who attend the Assembly. What he stated was that if we attend the Assembly we will have no leg to stand on. This statement was misstated in the press which fact was established.
Bangladesh was not PART of Pakistan, it was Pakistan (East), we separated present Pakistan and we renamed Bangladesh. Because Muslim League formed at Dhaka on 1906 by Sir Nawab Salimullah and present ruling party Awami League is one of Bangladeshi part, Muslim League >Awami Muslim League >Awami League.
The problem of separation was initiated by Jinnah - when he came to Dhaka and announced that Urdu and only Urdu would be the language of Pakistan. The language movement for Bangla to be an equal language was not accepted.
@@TheWartimeLeader it could have been a national language of equal stature. Moreover Bangladesh constituted 55% of the population, so why do u think that a language spoken by majority of the people can't be a national language?
@@TheWartimeLeader Again pakistani narrow full of hateful mindset.We never tell that Bangla should be state language of pakistan.We tell that Bangla is our mother tounge.We will never use urdu in terms of talking, writing in any govt offices or elsewhere.We want bangla to be used in our area I mean Bangladesh.We have nothing to do with other part of pakistan.Whatever language other part of pakistan wanted they are free to use according to their choice.
In Bangla there is a saying- আল্লাহ যা করেন ভালোর জন্যই করেন... Whatever Allah does, he does it for good....... Alhamdulillah, we got independence....... @Haris_Ahmed_Khan, sorry for recommenting... an Indian ruined the previous one jumping from one topic to another for nothing.....
Ab socho hum indians ko kitne taqllf hua hoga jab india se tut kar pakistan bana tha 1947 me.. india kabhi nahi chahta tha ki pakistan bane.. par jinah haat dhokar pakistan banane k ada tha aur india k tukre karna chahta tha... Mai INDIAN BENGALI hun aur Bangladesh ya east pakistan banne ka dukh pata hai muje...
@@saanthbaccha Hume bhi pata hai ki kaise kuch chand hindu zamindaron ne East Bengal ko lutke Kolkata jaise shahar banaya tha. ja ke zamindar darpan padhiye, padhiye Mohesh nam ki kahani written by Sharatchandra chatyopadhyay. Hum to vai banke hi rehna chahta tha. lekin ek East Bengal province bhi aap logon ko accha nahi laga tha. ek Dhaka University banane mey bhi bade andolan karna para tha.... mulk aise waise nahi tut ti. ravaiya tut deti hai. aur agar hum bangali na jagte to Pakistan bhi nahi banta... Jinnah kaun hai? hum kisi Jinnah ko jante nahi the. HS Shohrawardi jaise leader chaha is liye tuta. aur wo thik kiya. apne logon ke huq ke liye kiya. Phir bhi Sarat Chandra Bose and AK Fazlul Hoque jaise leaders koshis kiya tha ek independent Bengal ke liye. Wo bhi Congress aur Hindu mahasabha ne nahi hone diya. To afsos ki baate karke kya hoga? Ap WB ko dekh lijiye, India ka leading state may se ek hai, aur Bangladesh ko dekhiye, World's fastest growing Major Economy. afsos kis baat ka? আর দাদা, বাঙ্গালী হয়ে পাকিস্তানীর চ্যানেলে আরেক বাঙ্গালীর সাথে হিন্দিতে কথা বলতে বিরক্ত লাগতেছে। পারলে বাংলায় জবাব দিয়েন।
@@mdits249 bhai sabki apne apni soch hai.. mera mama ghar originally bangladesh me padta hai... Nowakhali, khulna.. me... Kitne takleef hua tha. Bangladesh se sab kuch chor k india me ana... Meri nani kehte the. .. bhara pura pariwar aur sb jamin jaidad chor k india aana pada tha...kitne taqeef hue hoga socho.... Koi kuch loot k nahi gaya hai.. Kolkata khud se samriddh tha..kise k bolne se biswaas nahi hoga..
My father said that pk army burned our house, then they went to India. Pk army killed a lot of innocent ppl.in 71 we fought for Democracy, but today in bd there is no democracy.
We always wanted to live as proud Pakistani since the partition in 1947. But you guys need to go back what you did to us!! 23 years of oppression! You never treated us as Pakistani. Your leaders and military dictators always treated us differently in all aspects. We had no option except independence led by Father of the Nation Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman.
@@TheWartimeLeader brother joke from a pakistani.Its laughable.pakistan have to seek public official apology from Bangladesh because of their genocide in 1971.
I am a Bangladeshi.The Pakistani people repeatedly blamed India for breaking up Pakistan. But they forgot about social and economic inequalities because the then Pakistani military and administrative people hated the Bengalis.
The main reason for the break up of Pakistan is inequality. Lack of justice oppression oppression
Yes Mahmud you are right and we acknowledged it in the show as well. Please give it a watch and let me know what you think of the discussion.
@@TheWartimeLeader In order to run a country properly, the citizens of that country have to be given equal status. When the Pak-India war broke out, the Pakistan Army got involved in the war leaving Bangladesh unprotected, which they should not have done.
@@salimm97 totally agreed!
It is quite exaggerated, inequalities still exist among Bangladeshis themselves
@@vengyfries6934no one want to be a second class citizen.
Look at the irony: Bangladesh celebrate Victory Day on Dec 16 while we Pakistani still crying "Sakoot-e-Dhaka". How stupid are we! We must recognize Bangladesh as sovereign state and apologize for committing Bengali Holocaust.
On March 26, 2021 Bangladesh will celebrate 50 years of independence 🇧🇩 Pakistan is yet to formally acknowledge its shameful past of 1971 whereby its military government of Yahya Khan committed one of the worst genocides of the 20th century against the people of Bangladesh. A formal apology from the Government and people of Pakistan to the Government and people of Bangladesh over the 1971 Genocide is long overdue.
@Mr Expressu should not think about that,this is our matter,pakistan should be apologised to bangladesh for genocide,india always want to harm pakistan,but they couldn't do this if west pakistani goverment don't absorbs east pakistan,sekh mujib always wanted to be the president of united pakistan,but when west pakistan killed our general people we understand that it's can't be possible to get our rights in pakistan,on the other side india got a chance to broke pakistan,so first they give us gun and after independent india try to occupy us,when they failed they looted us and killed some people,I hope u understand the real history,pakistan was broken mainly for the west pakistani leaders and army
@Mr Express I hope you realize what you are saying and the way you are articulating is actually the language of propaganda. If you cannot have the decency to apologize, at least remain silent and abstain from disgracing the "Mukti judhho" and disrespecting the struggles of people of Bangladesh and the lives they lost. I know India's role was not of pure benevolence, but rejecting the genocide carried out in Bangladesh by the Pakistani army makes you no different from the fascists!
@Mr Express tumlogo ki adat he har baat pe india india kar k jubah se hagte rehte ho.. kal ko agar tere ghar k sandas(Toilet) k nal se paani nahi aa raha hogo toh tu v bolega,, "jarur isme kise indian ka sajis hai, use ne mere bathrom ka pano roka hoga" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 tu hagte hue v india k hamle se dara hua rehta hoga.. tere sapne me india aate hai..balakot strike hota hai.. 😁😁🤣🤣
Koi agr apne baat rakhta hai toh usme india ka haat hai na.. sach me pakistan me gadho ki kami nahi hai usme se tumek ho.. tumara sekh chily v bol raha tha.. ki kal pure pakistan me bijli chali gaye aur bolta raha india ne bijli kaat de.. hadd hai pau pau k atom bomb aur 200gm k bomb banane wale... Se aur kya umeed ki jaa sakte hai 🤣🤣🤣🤣🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
During the 1971 Bangladesh war for independence, members of the Pakistani military and Razakar raped between 200,000 and 400,000 Bangladeshi women and girls in a systematic campaign of genocidal rape.
Being a indian I think Pakistan's biggest mistake was not acceptance The theory of Unity in diversity like India.
Diversity like different languages, cultural etc.
Pakistan was created by Britsh to have a client state in Indian subcontinent, Jinnah wasn't a big leader, he and his followers didn't have the vision for a successful country.
India sexual but not secular.i mean free rapists state
@@chetonabaaz7298 is that a muslim country speaking about secularism 😂 don't pollute ears plz😂
@@anonymous-bd4hx Delhi the capital of rape 🤷🏼♂️🤦🏻
Agreed
It's not Indo-Pak war, it's called Bangladesh Liberation War
But how do you define India’s role in it?
@@TheWartimeLeader They helped in our liberation. The same way China helped vietnam in their liberation from French and US. You just had an entire discussion with Prof. Jalal that you always look things through the point of view India and yet you are doing it again.
@@bokapremik I wish maybe one day I visit Bangladesh and talk to the victims of your liberation war. But for now, we both look from different perspectives and that is totally fine.
@@TheWartimeLeader if pakistan want to develop good relation with bangladesh then pakistan have to apologise for brutal atrocities they have COMITTED against bengalis pakistan has to officially accept its mistake against bangladesh then pakistan can expect forgiveness from bangladesh
I would say it was not fall of dhaka in fact it was rise of dhaka
I was shocked with the speaker's response to the question on what was the biggest loss for Pakistan. She replied Kashmir. Dude, you lost 56% of your fellow Bengali citizens who fervently supported the pakistan cause in 1947, who were a part of you. Her reply is a proof that we Bengalis were never a concern of yours. Pakistan has always been obsessed with Kashmir and India, totally ignoring the needs and issues of its own provinces, Bengal and Balochistan. And by calling our liberation war, Indo pak war, you totally sidelined the main actor in the situation, Bangladesh herself. Yes, we indeed took India's help. But it was our own war, never India's. You are making a supporting character the main protagonist. It was a war fought by every single Bengali. You cannot snatch away our struggle from us. India intervened in December. So the war fought between the month of March to November, is that a joke to you? You inflicted so much torture, cruelty and atrocities on your fellow countrymen that 1 crore of them had to become refugee in India. 1 crore of your fellow citizen took shelter in another country to survive from the cruelty of the army that was maintained by their own tax money. What a joke! And you are blaming India for this chaos! What was she supposed to do? How long would she feed 1 crore refugees and why should she? You massacre your countrymen when they demand for the basic legitimate democratic rights, kill their children, rape their daughters and expect them to remain loyal to you? What a joke! And we could have been in a way better position, had you not killed our most brilliant minds on 14 December. That was the lowest level of cowardice, unprecedented in the history of the world. How could you stoop so low! When you realised you cannot win the war, you killed our scholars and leaders on that day, so that we as a nation may never prosper. You should be ashamed of yourselves for what you did to us. And you call yourselves Muslims? How could you do this to your fellow Muslim brothers?
You are a true Bangladeshi! I salute you! Long live Bangladesh 🇧🇩
@@MaTara01 thank you 🙂
Well most of the current Pakistani generation is sympathetic to the Bengali cause as there has been a gradual realization of past antipathy the West Pakistanis inflicted upon the Bengali people. My concern as a neutral observer of history (well I'll try to my best to be one) is the intermixing of so many layers and exaggeration of facts and numbers that somewhat defy the reality on ground. While its hard to keep the emotions aside discussing the events of 71' I'll try to give my vents on the matter by keeping as rational as possible.
First thing first, the start of Bangladeshi movement is said to be the product of the Bangla language in the 1950s as an impression of tyrannical imposition of Urdu language is given. Well, it should be kept in mind that Urdu wasn't indigenous of the land that constitutes West Pakistan today; but despite that people here accepted Urdu as the national language proudly. This is because there was a need of a lingua franca to give diverse federating units a binding factor. How can you expect a Punjabi or Sindhi in West Pakistan to understand Bengali or even the themselves in Pakistan? As hindi was defacto lingua franca in India therefore, Pakistan required its own- and for that I think Urdu was a smart choice because it as product of Islamic civilization in India (being an amalgamation of Sanskrit, Turkish, Arabic and Persian language). But still in order to accommodate the demands of the East Pakistani brethren the first and second constitution of Pakistan (1956 and 1962) declared Bengali as the one of the national languages of Pakistan along with Urdu.
Second point is that the historical facts contradict the so called power grabbing of the Western wing. Bengalis (even though less in number) enjoyed a considerable influence in the power structure as they were the torch bearers of the Pakistan movement. Khwaja Nazimuddin served as governor general and PM of Pakistan who is respected in the country till this day. Mohammad Ali Bogra and Hussein Suharwardy served as PMs too who had considerable influence in the government power structure with their roots in civilian bureaucracy too. Later the army imposed martial law to overthrow the civilian setup to rule the country with an iron fist under Ayub Khan for a decade; which of course is blamed for the centralization of power. But guess what? Who was the person that sanctioned the army to take over? Yes my friend it was a Bengali himself the first President of Pakistan Mr. Iskanker Mirza who allowed the dictatorial rule to abrogate the constitution and set a precedence that would haunt the country for years. So the irony lays down here!
@@m.shahrukhkhansadiq1648 Can you please explain to me why Bangladeshis are not interested in talking about the native Bengali Hindus, who were the original inhabitants of Bangladesh, having to migrate from East Pakistan /Bangladesh after 1947. Why is the sharp demographic decline of the Bengali minorities of Bangladesh never talked about nor the deliberate rapes & murders of these minorities in 1971? Has their been a Truth & Reconciliation Committee in Bangladesh about it or any apology ? If Bangladesh itself does not hold any accountability for such things nor does it do anything to attract the native minorities who fled Bangladesh back, then why should it expect anything better from other countries?
From Bangladeshi Perspective , it was not " Fall of Dhaka " . The correct term should be " Rise of Dhaka " from oppression , after all - 16th of December 1971 was ( is ) the Victory day of Bangladesh .
Absolutely...it should be called THE RISE OF DHAKA
Right
yes..west pkistan beat with east pkistan...16decmbr...our victory day...we dont like pakistan....
@@Whitefogfly Bangladesh declared Independence on 26th of March 1971 , so it was already a independent country , it defeated the illegal occupiers ( who denied the lawful winner of 1970 election to rule the Country ), west Pakistanis on 16th of December 1971 "The Victory day of Bangladesh over Pakistan" so it was the " RISE OF DHAKA / BANGLADESH " not fall . And Bangladesh ( along with West Bengal ) could have emerged as Independent country in 1947 but it chose to join West Pakistan, which proved to be a historically wrong decision . Bengalis Formed Muslim league & Pakistan , not the other way round . Pakistanis simply did not understand that.
@@Whitefogfly Now you insulted me & my country . I started doubting your intellectual ability as I already provided you a history lesson. I repeat , as far as Bangladesh is concerned it was Independent ( declared by the legally winner of a democratic election in 1970 ) since 26th of March 1971 . West Pakistani Forces were staying in Bangladesh illegally and killing millions , We fought back and final Victory against the Enemy came on 16th of December 1971. " DHAKA ROSE " against occupiers . Pakistan fall / Lost.
we are Bangladeshi. We love India for helping us in 1971. 🇧🇩🇧🇩🇧🇩🇧🇩🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
Why do you think so?
@@TheWartimeLeader What type of question is this? pakistan is a rogue state and a terrorist state.Pakistan always blame hindu and pakistan have huge hatred for hindus.I heard several pakistani talk show on liberation war of Bangladesh.There they clearly b lamed hindus.That shows the mentality of pakistani people.In bangla from 1000 years we both hindu muslims live peacefully.In 1971 pakistan army genocided and killed 3 million bengali people and raped 400000 bengali women.pakistan army targeted all the hindu family and their place.That shows the mentality of pakistanis.We are thankful to India they helped us in 1971 and we got victory.
Long live Bangladesh India friendship.
0:53 For god's sake, It's called Bangladesh Liberation war, anyway it's not my job to change someone's perspective.
In Pakistan, we just call it either East Pakistan separatist war, East Pakistan Civil war or simply Indo-Pak war of 1971.
@@Lyallpuriya of course your vile country would say that, still denying the genocide your vile Army has committed.
East bengal was far more politically active then pakistan during, befrore and after 1947 participation. Their were bigger leaders then jinnah in bengal in muslim leagues before the creation of pakistan. Mujibur rahman & bengalis never wanted to separate but pakistan started it.
Thankyou for your input. I agree with you and Pakistan should have looked onto a political solution for both of its parts but unfortunately poor administration and lack of political aptitude resulted in the loss of its half.
I would say 99% mistakes done by west pakistan gov. And pak army and later 1% mistake done by india thats the reason of creation of bangladesh if you think pakistanis prospective as an indian i can think i wont even blame india
@@rawd1876 yes India capitalised on its opportunity to divide Pakistan however, it was our own fault which has put us to the point of no return.
@@TheWartimeLeader i wont say that india got opportunity back then india was facing huge refugee crisis thats actually adding the economic pressure to india back then indian govt. Was not rich we collected donation to raise the refugees if pakistan contain the refugees would not have let to come in india pakistan may have not broken thats the mistake done by pakistan i can still see in your most of media outlet and your retired generals they still put on 100% blame on india i reckon pakistan need to reform on this topic they dont have to blame india or you can say india took the revenge of operation gibraltor when pakistan send their lashkares and pak soldier as a kasmiri citizen in indian union territory kashmir pakistan although pakistan lost everything let me tell you one thing india also took the some strategic part of pakistan ocupied side kashmir and india has gone beyond the previous kashmir cease fire line which now called loc pakistani army hide this failure against india and the futre there is no possibility kashmir can never be seperated from india or gets freedom whether i can born 7 times in pakistan there may be only one soltution in the future loc can be international border then the realtion can be better b/w india and pakistan this what i can think india never gonna compromise with its own territory even no one would like to comromise their own territory plebicite cannot possible becoz pok demography has been deeply changed specially in gilgit baltistan i can prove you that in 1972 pakistan abolish the state subject rule which gave rights to pakistani other states people specially sunni they can buy land in gilgit baltistan this resulted huge demographic change india is not fool india is never gonna make plebicite india always argue this what do you reckon
Yes but i think 1948 and 1965’s revenge was also in India’s mind as Indira Gandhi once said that today india has taken its revenge of Kashmir. However, i don’t think the demographics of GB has changed. The region is still populated with the locals and there is no dispute. Even in Pakistan’s Kashmir there is no dispute by the locals. Pakistan has always facilitated its princely states unlike India. Honestly, i see a flaw in India’s strategy of handling Kashmir. The dynamics are very different in the region, how things operate is different too, by force India could not hold at it for long and this would create more escalation of events between India Pak and create a East Pakistan like situation. A peaceful solution is much needed today in Kashmir.
Madam,
Can u not understand, what was the vision of six points?
- the vision of six points were basically for protecting the economy of East Pakistan from West Pakistan, as West Pakistan was stealing the revenues of jute industry of Bangladesh, to develop their sides. (Bangladesh was producing more than 70% revenues of total exports of Pakistan, but there was almost no development in Bangladesh).
That’s why Sk mujib wanted two currencies for two wings of Pakistan, but with easily convertible in both sides of Pakistan (like the separate currencies of England & Scotland is still found in UK).
The two nation now 3 nation concept is a failed concept .it should never have happened thanks to the politicians ot that era partition has happened and even 700 years from now there will be no peace in the sub continent
Y sir who and what's the reason for someone to be so upset?
Believe me, we (Pakistanis) are extremely happy today that you guys have your own independent country. We even want you guys to merge with your lovely neighbors, India as you guys have more in common with them than us. Bangladesh should've been a separate country from Pakistan since 1947. There was nothing in common b/w East & West Pakistan. P A K I S T A N means the land of *P*unjab, British *A*fghan province, *K*ashmir, *S*indh and Balochis*TAN*. There is no 'Bengal' in Pakistan. All the federating units of Pakistan have three things in common: Islam, Indus Valley Civilisation (IVC) and Aryan heritage. Bengalis don't have these things in common with Pakistanis.
@@Lyallpuriya
Bengalis made Pakistan. Even a Bengali proposed the name of Pakistan first. The lists will not be finished. 😝
Without Bengalis strikes, present Pakistani land would’ve been under Indian territory since 1947.
Just a tell a great leader’s name from ur territory (Punjab, sindh etc) who had great impacts against British empire to make Pakistan in 1947.
- there’s nobody in ur territory whom British took seriously. It’s for Bengalis, Britain got forced to divide Indian subcontinent. You are nowhere in the history.
Anyways, you are talking about merging with India. And, you said, Pakistan is the land of Aryan heritage. Yes, most of you are converted Muslims from Hindu. So, today or tomorrow, Pakistan will be part of India again.
And, talking about the Bengal history, Bengalis ancient name is Gangaridae nation. We ruled whole India including you.
Our mighty Bengali king Asoka invaded whole India and was the spreader of Buddhism religion against Hinduism established 2,500 years ago. Yes, Bengalis is the founder nation of Buddhism religion in the world.
To know more about Gangaridae nation, do google it. Muslim Bengalis converted from Buddhism, not like you dirty hindu from idolatries worshippers’ families.
So, Pakistan would be perfect to merge with India.
We Bengalis are unique from Indian and you who are converted from Hindu to Muslim people in terms of territory, heritage, cultures, religion etc. since ancient period. Do some study.
We Bengali are the only nation in Indian subcontinent who fought against Britain because we have balls. We are not like you transgender people.
In fact, in 1857, Bengal regiment declared the war against Britain empire throughout soldiers mutiny, but Punjab and gorkha regiment helped British empire to defeat Bengal regiment during the period. Otherwise, we could liberated India 100 years ago, in 1857. In that sense, you were actually pimp of Britain in India.
If I start to tell your history in detail, u cannot tolerate it. So, I’m stopping here.
However, Bangladesh was a sovereign country, is a sovereign country, will be a sovereign county, whether you are happy or not.
@@Lyallpuriya and, historically, Punjab people were like this, hum larengey, marengey, karenga etc....
But, when it comes to full scale of wars, they became just like doomed.
For example,
Alexander massacred Punjab 2500 years ago. But, our Bengal king (Nanda dynasty) defeated Alexander). Therefore, throughout our Mauriyan empire, we recovered whole India from Greek army. That’s why, you have seen Buddhist monasteries in Pakistan, as Asoka was a part mauriyan empire.
In fact, 400 years ago, with the help of Bengal soldiers, sher shah defeated Mughal emperor humayun and invaded Delhi.
Even Akbar didn’t defeat our king isha kha.
And, in 1971 war, it was just phenomenal as the enemy was inside our land and cantonments.
But Bengalis proved, we are born fighters. Our history is same since last 4000 years.
What’s your history? You have nothing but being a looser nation. It’s not me, history is saying that. I didn’t find any glorious history of yours. All outsiders came to your land and fucked you up since last 2,500 years.
But, in 1947, for Bengalis, you got a free land luckily.
Bangladesh hasn't forgotten 1971. Happy 50th golden Victory day. 🙌 🇧🇩( A member of Mukti-Bahini )
Can you share your account of 1971 if you were really a member of mukti bahini and have gone through all of that?
Pakistan Army has record of losing wars against India and now against Afghanistan as well.
I was born a year after Partition of India so don't have firsthand knowledge of events leading to it. But I remember the huge economic burden looking after millions of refugees from East Pakistan. One had to affix a separate postal stamp marked refugee relief. Both Bhutto and Pakistani military refuse to accept Sheikh Mujibur Rahman's victory and make him the PM of Pakistan. As a young man, my memories of him are those of a young revolutionary who was fired with zeal to get a fair deal for East Pakistan. The claim that Jinnah didn't want partition of Punjab and Bengal and that he only wanted a federal or power-sharing arrangement are unconvincing. He asked for a Muslim 'homeland' from which he was prepared to exclude linguistic and religious minorities. The emergence of Bangladesh is the result of Pakistani ruling elite- both Punjabis and military- suppressing the legitimate aspirations of Bengalis.
Thank you for sharing your insight sir 😊 but can you recall specifically about what events led to the fall of dhaka?
The same atrocities that were once carried against us are now being done in Balochistan. We need to help them
Bangladesh Zindabad ✔️
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It’s not fall of dhaka it actually Rise Of Dhaka.
Apparently so!
Pakistan was formed on basis of religion and is not a secular nation.
Bangladesh was formed on basis of culture and language &
is a democratic nation.
That's a major reason of it doing well.
True!
If Pakistan was not formed in ,1947, how could you get Bangladesh from India?
Bangladeshi politician before sk Mujib pleaded for the formation of Pakistan then only it was separated from India otherwise not.
pakistan has an opportunity to beg apologize to Bangladesh at 50 years Birthday of Bangladesh in 2021.
As a Bangladeshi, I always hate Pakistani approach with Bangladesh in 1971.......And I never forgive pakistan for the genocide they did in my country,with my people in 1971.
Brother during the period from 1972 to 1980 millions of bangalies migrated to Pakistan due to poor environment created by mukti bahini and the militants of SHEIKH MUJEEB UR REHMAN in Bangladesh. at the moment there are 4 million bangalies living in Karachi with all the fundamental rights which an ordinary Pakistani is availing neither the government agencies nor pak army disturbing them as they are our Muslim brothers.
Brother come out from the dirty politics of SHEIKH MUJEEB UR REHMAN and Indian propagainda.
Lots of love ❤️ and prayers for our beloved East Pakistani brothers 🇵🇰❤️🇵🇰❤️🇵🇰❤️🇵🇰❤️🇵🇰❤️
There was no similarities between East Pakistan and West Pakistan..We bengalis had a rich culture since before...We, Bangladeshi were totally different than Pakistan culturally, economically and in terms of so many factors..Bengali people started hating Pakistan after 1952, when Muhammad Ali Jinnah declared Urdu as a state language.That was the 1st stage of division..Then in 1954 Bengali Awami Muslim league did not get the chair in spite of getting victory...That thing gradually led to the war of 1971...Must have to admit that Pakistani Army rulers played a great role to divide East Pakistan from The West..one thing to remember , India did not give us freedom, Actually at that time India and Soviet Union(Russia) helped us a lot to get freedom.The USA was on the Pakistani side. Anyway we are happy living in our country peacefully..I wish Our country would prosper a lot in near future..
The irony is that M.A.J could not speak Urdu himself. he originated from Gujrat state, he loved pork and drank the finest intoxicants.
@@thehunter5018 thats why your ancestors supported him chutyai
Ayesha Jalal claims Jinnah used the idea of an independent Pakistan as a negotiation tool pre-independence. She cites his acceptance of the Cabinet mission plan as evidence. But could not the same be said of Jinnah's insistence for regional autonomy? Was this not also just a negotiation tool since he later abolished regional autonomy post-independence?
He never abolished regional autonomy after independence. I would highly recommend you to stop watching Republic TV and ZEE news so that you can use your brain instead making up stuff right from your ass.
Pakistan's mistakes from birth are as follows: 1) Insulting the majority Bengali language, 2) Not allowing Bengalis to come into the power even after winning the election in1954, 3) Treating Bengalis as colonies, 4) Ayub Khan imposed martial law to rule the country illegally for 12 years and against Bengalis exploitation and oppression, and 5) To disarm the army without handing over power as the victorious leader of the whole of Pakistan in the 1970 national elections.
Guys read Blood Telegram by Garry J Bass. This book is one of the finest book on the Indo-Pak war, 1971.
Off the topic- Ayesha Jalal mam is the wife of Sugata Bose(nephew of Netaji). Calcutta's daughter in law.
Yes Souvik both are true
This propagandist should never be called 'Daughter in law' of kolkata
So overall Pakistan army were responsible for the separation?
Not really but the people in power.
@@TheWartimeLeader Hahaha.
@@TheWartimeLeader hHHHhH
@@TheWartimeLeader People in power? So, the Army?
Thanks to Allah we are separated. Alhamudillah we are going good by every means be that political stability or economic development.
We may forgive you Pakistan for the atrocities you did to us but we will never forget. The death of 3 million martyr will never be forgotten.
We can be acquaintances but As long as there's no apologies from the government of pakistan, we never can be friends.
Your guest did not clarify what the contradictions were with the 6 points. Mujib fought the election with 6 points being his election manifesto. The election was fair and democratic. Mujib was the clear winner. Why did Bhutto raise objection after the election. Yahya then colluded with Bhutto and decided to cancel the assembly. Bhutto boycotted and threatened his MPs. Is it not clear who was responsible for the blunder. It was clearly because Bhutto lost the election. However the story is long. It started with inequality, injustices, discrimination, domination and looting of resources from the East to the West. You can discuss, debate and argue to avoid owning up the misdeeds. It makes not a little bit of difference to the Bengalis. Unfortunately they had to fight twice for freedom. But the traitors let them down.
Joy Bangla ❤Now we are independent nation.Alhamdulillah.
Bangladesh zindabad ❤
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Bangladesh zindabad ❤❤❤
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Kire nil akash rajakar bainchhud
We are not East Pakistani, i'm from Bangladesh, i'm still six Generation in my country, Before East Pakistan We have a Banglae Nabib.....
Madam & Sir, enmity between hindus & muslims was the core basis of Mr Jinnah's thesis about Pakistan. This enmity has become stronger over the past 77 years all through the indian subcontinent.
Ashok, in your opinion, what’s the underlying causes for this?
When the lady said 'theres a diff between two nations and two different states' I understood ki chutiya kaat rhi hain. 😂😂
The main reason for the fall of Pakistan and creation of Pakistan and Bangladesh is the dominative, racism nature of Punjabi people and west Pakistani politicians. We People of Bangladesh always think that West Pakistani military and Politicians started making discrimination and outrage after journey of Pakistan. And they did it clearly. West Pakistan tried to push us to accept Urdu and Pakistani Culture in the name of religion. They made discrimination each and every sector with Us. And actually they thought east Pakistan I mean present Bangladesh was a cash cow for the west Pakistan. We didn’t get our political rights properly durning Pakistan regime. So why east Pakistan will stay with west? 1952's language movement, 1958-69 Ayyub khan's dictatorship, 1966's 6 points movements, 1969 mass movement and Agartala conspiracy case, 1970's national election, cyclones and 1971's killing of General people of Bangladesh !! Don't it enough causes for falling Pakistan?
100 percent!
4:02 can you give me the pdf link
Here you go!
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/the-road-to-partition/jinnah-partition/
Pakistan army surrendered to a Jewish General from India. Interesting fact.
Yes general Jacob was a jew!
Bro that was Bangladesh for more than thousand of years. Coward Ayub khan wanted to make it "East Pakistan". Do you called Sindh as "Costal Pakistan" or Baluchistan as "Hilly Pakistan" or Punjab as "Central Pakistan" then why Ayub khan tried to make Bangla " East Pakistan". We are "Bangali" and we are proud of that but they try to make us "East Pakistani" and this is the main cause of separation.
You have a point. The Pakistani establishment and politicians were afraid of Bengali majority.
There was no 'Bangladesh' before 1971. There was East Bengal and West Bengal and Bengal. What a stupid argument.
@@hummamkhan8278 Exactly and before Pakistan?
@Badal Hossain I know what Desh means. But that wasn't the name of the country. It was always known as Bengal, or East Bengal. It was never called Bangladesh until '71.
Ignoramus.
@Badal Hossain What was it before East Pakistan? And how is your comment even relevant? If anything it debunks your point. The state's name is Bangladesh.
Urdu was not language of Pakistan. Bengali was language of 56% peoples. Why opened brush fire on protesting unarmed students? In 1971 massive genocide of Bengali peoples started and continued upto surrendering of pakistan army. Provincial autonomy is not proposal of separation.
I agree with you on the language issue. It wasn’t dealt intelligently.
2020: Still Pakistani Army playing Game in Pakistan!!! If Pakistani general people can not decrease Army's influence in policy making!! Then this kind of shameful history will be repeated again and again!!
Khan won the election fair. He has campaigned since 1996.
Unless Bangladeshi people rise up against fascist dictatorship of Awami League Bangladeshis can never be freed from bs that has been inflicted into Bangladeshi minds by their dictator governments.
@@Lyallpuriya Look, who's giving lecture of dictatorship!!!
Your country is going backward because of dictatorship of Army!! And you are here to give lecture about others!!
Oil your own machine!! Many years ago Bangladesh passed Pakistan in almost all index. Nowadays Bangladesh passing India also in some index!!
You must take courage and idea from us to shine your own country!! Cause begging is not good for any country image!!!
@@shawan1st At least in our elections, we elect +20 different political parties. In our nation's history, not a single party has won a simple majority while in your country over 96% of the parliament is dominated by one single party. Now, tell me which one is a dictatorship? The one with free media, free & fair elections, independent judiciary and strong institutions or the ones whose election results looks more like North Korean elections. There is literally zero freedom of speech and zero concept of free media in Bangladesh. There are more journalists in Bangladeshi jails than Pakistani jails. How many opposition leaders are in jail or put to death in Pakistan? Now, compare that with Bangladesh where all the opposition is either in jail or killed by your dictator queen Shaikh Hasina. Everyone knows how Urdu-speaking Biharis, Rohingya refugees and Chakma Buddhists are regularly persecuted in your police state. Your country's Hindu population share has declined from 22% in 1971 to less than 8% in 2022.
Secondly, which indexes you are referring to? GDP growth rate and the Nominal GDP then yes, Bangladesh has surpassed Pakistan in those indexes but why don't you look at your GDP in terms of Purchasing Power Parity (PPP)? Pakistan's GDP (PPP) is over $1.3 trillion while your GDP (PPP) is just above $900 billion. Also, poverty rate in your country is 29.4% while in Pakistan it is 21.9%. Pakistan is literally ranked as the 9th most powerful country in the military index while your tiny country is just at 46th. Your whole nation's exports are based on just selling textiles, jute and fishes while we export fighter jets, tanks, attack helicopter, drones, missiles, etc.
Lastly, I don't think you guys should have any audacity to call us beggars. If buying loans from international banks and other countries is considered "begging" then the United States is the biggest beggar in the world. Your own country's Debt-to-GDP ratio is over 41%. So you better take care of your own tiny shithole country before lecturing us!
@@Lyallpuriya You Pakistanis destroyed our country and you're calling it a shithole.
Our Hindu population went down because the Pakistani military went out to kill them. So they either died or fled to India. I can't believe you guys call yourselves Muslims. In your nation's history not a single Prime minister has sat a full 5 year term.
It was Bangladeshi Mukti Bahini which won the war and Pakistan created a World Record. Only Army in the world to go down on it's knees and surrender to Civilians Bangladeshi Mukti Bahini after WW II.
Really? But history tells that It was India who fought the war side by side with Mukti Bahini! What proof do you have for your argument my dear brother?
@@TheWartimeLeader Go get educated. Mukti Bahini started resistance movement much earlier on 4th. April 1971. India entered in the conflict on 3rd. December 1971. India never denied it's assistance to Mukti Bahini. One of the reasons for India's intervation was flood of refugees fleeing from Pakistani Army's atrocities in to India.
It is on record that then Prime Minister of India Indira Gandhi requested Henry Kissinger to do something about this issue at a Breakfast meeting when he stopped over in New Delhi during July 1971 ,on the way to China. Henry Kissinger refused to intervene, Indira Gandhi responded " If you cannot do anything to address the issue I will have to ask my Armed Forces to take action". Yes Pakistani Army surrendered to Indian Army but in presence of thousands of Mukti Bahini fighters. How humiliating it would have been if Pakistani Army was made to surrender to Mukti Bahini? Mukti Bahini did not have resources to keep more than 93,000 POWs.
@@TheWartimeLeader Both mukti bahini and Indian armed forces fought the war.The result is 93000 pak army surrender.The biggest surrender after WW2.😂😂😂😂😂
Distorted history to favor Jinnah. Dhaka did not fall, it was the RISE of Dhaka from being the Colony of Punjabis. Liberation seeds were planted by Jinnah in 1948 in Dhaka when he said, "Urdu and only Urdu will be the language of Pakistan, Bengalis said NO. The last Nawab Sirajuddowla ruled Bengal, Bihar, Orissa and Assam. Bengal was considered the richest region of India and the British East India Company started by conquering through treachery. When talks of independence started, Sarat Chandra Bose (Netaji's elder brother), Suhrawardy and others wanted to keep Bengal United but Nehru (having affair with Lady Mountbatten) and Patel objected. Jinnah, a lawyer from India, family of Jains, wanted to be Prime Minister and so did Nehru. Gandhi couldn't resolve the differences so Jinnah had to settle for Pakistan, family converting to Shiism but became leader of Sunni Pakistan and transplanted the Urdu language from UP, India that was spoken by only 6% of the population. The Punjabis, who considered themselves martial people (after all, they are descendants of Alexander's Army) would not hand over power to short, dark Bengalis (1954, 1970) so Bengalis had it enough and drove 93, 000 Punjabis out with the help of India. Tell true history, so-called intellectuals.to young people. Proud Bangladeshi, from Boston, USA (Dr. Mansur)
Thank you for sharing your insights sir would be great to have you on show someday. 😊
United we remain strong or become stronger, but divided we fall..
True
@@TheWartimeLeader myself is a bangladeshi, and the 1971 thing was not ever a war, can be described a battle, and it is highly exaggerated, we Bengalis killed many biharis (stranded pakistanis) and none talk about that, many of us are pure hypocrites.....
@@vengyfries6934 when conflicts end, truth dies - falsehood survives. We have been told a one-sided account of events. Reality is very different. India, West Pakistan and Mukti Bahini are equal culprits in this crisis. My heart bleeds for the common people who suffered.
@@TheWartimeLeader exactly there are wrongdoers among all of us, but again the wrogdoings of west Pakistan is highly exaggerated....Bangladesh is a sovereign nation...but what did it achieve? is it a highly developed nation? no we all sucks....we should follow Islam
Madam, your statement that India is a worst possible neighbor, proves that Pakistanis are living in fool's paradise. Just look at China, the darling of Pakistan these days, unki bhi kisise nahi jamati phir bhi it is a power. Pakistan is, perhaps, afraid of India as a power. Please note that India is a power to recogne with. Once Pakistan learns this, it will strive to remain a good neighbor.
Context dekhen jisme wo bol rahi hain.
East Pakistan was not a part of Pakistan. It was Pakistan that time. But only for one sided domination and discrimination Bangladesh had to reborn.
But Madam Prof. Ayesha Jalal is an absolutely honest person. I must respect her.
-Mohiminul Khan, Department of Mass Communication and Journalism, University of Dhaka.
If she is intelligentia from Pakistan then what can expect from ordinary Pakistanis...
Her Husband Sugata Bose the nephew of Subhash Chandra Bose is from India and he thinks the same too.
@@TheWartimeLeader yes but if u have thinking for country policy nd behavior on the base of religion..the result will be Bangladesh..democracy nd religion can go together..for the nation so survival depends on Pakistan who they chose future..nd future will depend
@@bhaveshslt why do you think democracy and religion can’t go hand in hand?
@@TheWartimeLeader dear Harris please understand nation is new concept..emerge from French revolution which is fundamental revolution against
Catholic church..so its denounce the religion powers in states or nation..so if u believe in modern nation state there should be no official or unofficial religion of nation its fundamental rules for nation state
@@TheWartimeLeader democracy gives equal economic, legal, constitutional, social rights to all its citizens irrespective of religion. In Pakistan non-Muslims cannot hold top public office in govt like PM, President, etc. while in India anyone can become anything. A Sikh had been PM.
Who were the people in the rank and file?
Nobody responsible for separation of east pakistan. Prof Aeysha was not present in east Pakistan from march71 to surrendering of pakistan military. Purani daastan bakwas kerney ki zarurat nehi. She don't know actual history and reason of separation of east Pakistan. Genocide of Bengali peoples started by Pakistan army from march71 and continued upto surrendering of pakistan military.
How Muslim nation like pakistan, killed 3 million Bangladeshi Muslim civilians ( which was their own people). How would you justify this. Pakistan never thought it’s one nation in first place. Pakistan arrogance and spumiest attitude towards Bengali, caused fall of Pakistan.
You can justify your crimes and atrocities as much as you want, but the fact doesn’t change that Bengalis were the majlums, and no matter who you are: Allah Taalla is always on the side of the majlums. Our cries reached to Him and He Himself helped us, as simple as that.
And I am sure Allah taa’la told you to categorise people or to judge them? A) I am not justifying anything. B) Bringing the truth on mainstream from conventional stories is my tribute to the innocent people of East Pakistan who were victimised and politically affected by west Pakistani administration.
@@TheWartimeLeader If I am the victim yes, I have every right to judge the oppressors. This lady you were interviewing, she is telling the truth? I don’t think so. Telling as it happened and telling half truth is two different things. You parasites sucked our resources to the point that it took us 50 years to recover from that.
@@sarfarajshahjahan2745 every one believes that the version of truth they have is the real one but let me tell you something brother, she is a worldwide renowned historian and not only that they teaches in US so i believe this is enough to justify her neutral stance. Secondly whatever has happened to East Pakistan was wrong and to condemn that i did this show to bring truth upfront. This is the only thing i can do as i couldn’t change the history. This shown me being neutral. Now what Bangladesh is today doesn’t only depends upon what it gone through the hands of West Pakistan but afterwards too. What ever happened after your independence is also a contributing factor to your current condition. There were coups after coups, toppling of governments until the last 15 years and so. So i think you should be unbiased while you analyse history.
Jinnah never wanted Pakistan but had to. Mujib never wanted Bangladesh but had to. Butto never wanted to join hands with military (establishment) but had to. What is she saying? She is a modern day apologist defending the undefendables. It is like saying Hitler didn't want to kill Jews but he had to. What kind of Historist is she.
Why do you think all of them had choices that they didn’t make?
@@TheWartimeLeader That is what the Historist is alluding to. She is implying that they had to make those 'hard' choices in those 'hard' circumstances and that we should sympathise with them. A novelist cooking drama than being a Historist.
@@srkchandrala1071 what do you think was the case in reality according to you?
@@TheWartimeLeader It doesn't matter. The choices were made (past). It is futile. To sympathise or not is our choice and it is futile to waste our emotions on them.
@@srkchandrala1071 But I want to know your argument too.
What a joke.. India k apne kisi neighbor se nahi bantii.. she is a historians of Pakistan.. great
India ki apne kis neighbour se banti hai? Pakistan, Nepal, Srilanka and China?
@@TheWartimeLeader all country except Pakistan due to Pakistan mind set ..
@@rajeshbhardwajjbtaen kese? Nepal se pechle saal hi border dispute chal raha tha China se bhi ladak pr clashes hue aur Srilanka se fishing pr confrontation hoti rehti he to phr kese na hua?
@@TheWartimeLeader abe chutiye aise to tumhare bhi har neighour se problem hai.
india, afg- durand line, aur china se dar kar shaksgam valley unko de di.
saale gulaam ho tum
@@TheWartimeLeader India has very good relation with Bangladesh.Every year 1.6 million Bangladeshi people visited India.India is the 2nd largest trade partner of Bangladesh.Some days ago Bangladesh India friendship pipeline inaugurated.BIndia uses Chittagong and mongla port.Ganga vilas visited Bangladesh some days ago.India is the largest development partner of Bangladesh.
Masha Allah, excellent ,thought provoking content made in Pakistan,so glad to see it.( Tayyab Iftikhar Husain)
I am pleased that you like it. More such content will be posted in future inshAllah, Thank you.
This woman was too kind to Bhutto.
it should be remembered that bengal has a different intellectual mindset with ancient literatüre dance drama music folk food dress etc.... western people looked down on dark colored short bengalis with less money but much more intellectually and cultured people and also 54% of pakistan.... brute force over superior intellectuals and culture can never win... best wishes...
Yes man true!
they always denied bangli intellect.
Pakistan still hasn't changed!
If Pakistan treated Bangali with respect and give us our right we could have rule entire south Asian and become an economic power house
এখন ভারতের সহযোগিতায় সব কিছু নিয়ন্ত্রণ করা হবে।
@@iqbalahmed5979 Poschim kanglu Bihari marwari dar coda khoua Golam Third class nagorik Name change korcos 😂😂. Hindhu Name bad dia Muslim name 😂
Pakistani people should listen to these intellectuals and historians since these people have no interest/business with 'politicians' nor 'military establishment', rather analyzing historical events with facts and evidence along with timeline. Obviously in their analysis, there is no place of nonsense 'conspiracy theories' or 'twisted perspective' but based on facts and evidence. Most importantly it would take great deal of knowledge on historical events with details and professional analysis/research to come to a conclusion on given issues/events which could be considered as reliable/acceptable to learn on. So called experts on many TV talk shows, only can shed light on some dots but far from the truth, and most of the time used as a tool to mislead people for their liking. As a Bangladeshi, I hope Pakistani people rather listen to these intellectuals and historians (by profession) to learn actual history instead of those 'talk show experts'. Otherwise as they say, 'history will repeat', meaning 'same mistake will repeat' in a way or another.
No time for Bangladesh. Too busy in daily life. What has happened has happened. Move on.
Beautiful reaction and very information video news
Thanks
Pakistan's biggest mistake was the genocide of March 25, 1971 and then the mass killing/genocide during the liberation war. They have broken the rules of the Geneva Convention at that time.
After independence, we Bangladeshis requested the government of Pakistan to apologize to Bangladesh for the 1971 mass killing/massacre, but Pakistan did not agree to apologize to Bangladesh as a state.
So, if the government of Pakistan does not feel sorry for the mistakes of the past, how can we accept or cooperate with them?
No doubt that, we love Pakistani people but Pakistani government or responsible people need to feel this issue.
জয় বাংলা 🇧🇩 🇵🇰
We Pakistani people too love our bangladeshi brothers and we also want our government to initiate friendly relations with bangladesh by apologising on the debacle of East Pakistan.
You guys don't play Islam on it because rape of innocent women. You guests she talking truth please can you give me the books title
The struggle for Pakistan is her book’s title.
Only Allah knows who is a true muslim and who is not. And it is up to no human being to declare who is a true muslim and who is not. That is itself an unbelievable audacity and display of arrogance! I am often disgusted by the condescending tone of the Pakistanis about us Bangladeshis, be it regarding our diet, our looks, our skin color or even our religiosity! I mean seriously, how are you people still so narrow minded?
I absolutely support every word of yours. I am a Pakistani and I must tell you majority of us Pakistani don’t think that way. Many Bangladeshis work here in Pakistan and they live like all of us.
Ayesha Jalal represents the Lahori-Punjabi elite of Pakistan that has captured the state and its institutions. Her high handedness is evident through her brusque answers to audience questions at Lit fests, or when she dismisses works of other historians. Here she says 'Bangladesh hasn't done too badly'!! I mean.. facepalm at the condescension!!!! Bangladesh has not only not done badly, they have whooped pakistan's ass on all indicators!!!
Pakistan will survive if Bangladesh leader lead that country ..
I don’t know whether it could have survived or not but i do know that it was their fair chance to rule.
Love the world ❤ from India love you so much we want brotherhood and kindness love ❤️ world
India helped us for his great interest by Awami League. Now we are sce. dhaka
i was a student in kolkata at that time and i have witnessed the genocide of thirty million brothers of beñgal.... half a million were raped... five million refugees flooded into india.... severe food shortages happened and then pakistan attacked india on 3rd dec 1971.... india always retaliates furiously... pak assets were bombed and wiped out from karachi port and chitagong followed by huge paradropping on dhaka and wiping out of governor house and army centres... pak army surrendered ninety three thousand soldiers taken prisoners and happy bangladesh was born amongst huge cheers in bengal india kolkata dhaka....
17:40 Sheikh Mujib didn’t call for Bangladesh on 7th March 1971 Speech. Learn Bengali, Understand meaning before taking interview!
Salimullah Khan quoted a book on South Indian History in a lecture.
The most balanced and insightful analysis by a Pakistani I have yet heard. Thank you.
Thank you sir. Please subscribe for more such insightful content. 😊
Don't called mojib wes divided pk.
he like together but wes pk never giving power to him
Nobody knows Jinnah at present in this world. But
Everyone knows Sheikh Mujib. What a waste of ayesha jalal
Victory of Bangladesh 16 December 1971
I like her views and explanations... mostly unbiased and committed to historic, political and philosophical truth.
The best explanation of Dhaka Fall. Thank you mam for the truth.
You’re welcome Sakib
From India love ❤️ Bangladesh is our heart friends parents brothers sisters
Pakistan was start to going down when ayub khan take power as marshal administrator. Because democracy was destroyed that time to until now. look the current situation!!! Army is as needed power all over the world 🌎. But this military (Pak Army) interrupt all over the place.
Experts call it a hybrid system in Pakistan.
@@TheWartimeLeader Good. Well said.
Do you know what Lord Mountbatten report to his majesty after divided the Indian subcontinent about Pakistan and Kashmir?
What did he report?
Return from Dhaka 27 th March 1971 at Karachi airport Bhutto said about army operation ‘ Thank god Pakistan has saved ‘ . Ayesha Jalal did not said about this .
Once he decided to tow the Military's line - as a politician he would say that. Prof Ayesha has correctly said that Power was with Army. Bhutto could have sacrificed his political career by not taking Army's side there he failed.
I take a sip of Whisky every time this guys says Ma'am.
Then what should i call her?
@@TheWartimeLeader
You are welcome to call her whatever you like but from a viewers perspective it seems excessive to call her Ma'am each time.
You could call her Professor every now and then. Sometimes when you interject you could also say:
'If I may ask'
'Allow me ask'
Etc Etc
The above are still respectful without being excessive.
Anyways, thank you for an excellent upload. I am now subscribed to your channel.
@@simply2ghetto thanks for a wonderful suggestion i will make sure to do it next time. You are totally right and also thanks for subscription. 😊
Prof ayesha Jalal very well respected woman her point of view about 1971 very real facts
Thank you Gani 😊
She is a supporter of Jinnah. She had described the invasion of Kashmir by kabulis as “kuch to Mila” she does not care about human lives.
First of all It's Bangladesh's Liberation war bro
Your title is completely wrong! What do you mean 'Why Dhaka fell' if anything we rose from the injustice of Pakistani's who wanted us to speak urdu instead of our own mother tongue Bangla. It was pure racism towards the bengali race wanting to take away our culture and heritage. If they allowed us to compete in Elections and allowed us to live our life we may of been still together
Yes you are right. And from Pakistani perspective we tried to analyse what mistakes lead to separation of Pakistan.
@@TheWartimeLeader When there is weakness from within an outsider tries to come to either conquer or rule in the case of East Pakistan and West Pakistan this is exactly what happened the system was weak crul and one sided when that happens it's very easy to take advantage and seperate. This is exactly what India did to us. Our religion should of kept us together we should seen each other as brothers instead the higher power had it's own agenda to demolish Bengali culture instead of welcoming it. India has so many different languages and religion yet they managed to stay together till today this is because they did not try to inforce another culture or takeaway ones tradition. I think this is the mistake that was made by the Pakistani government.
@@mahfujurrahman8057 i can’t agree much brother. Totally agreed!
@@mahfujurrahman8057 Unfortunately, I think you should understand that religion isn't the only factor which glues a nation together. The premise itself is wrong, because if it were true, the Arabian Peninsula would be one big Islamic country & not diverse Islamic kingdoms.
@@MaTara01 it's divided i know that but it shouldn't be Islam should unite us not divide. But Muslims don't tend to agree on one particular teachings.
Excellent conversation of Dacca fall ....
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Sheikh Mujib Aur Hum Bhi Nahi Cahate The Ki East Pakistan (Now Bangladesh) New Country Ho Jay...... Sheikh Mujib Too 1970 Vate Mai Jeeta Tha... He Was Legal President Of 2 Pakistan, But Z.A Bhutto And Yahiya Was Not Accept to East Pakistan And Sheikh Mujib Will dominate The Whole Pakistan...
Right
It was the Fall of East Pakistan subsequently causing it to be the Rise of Dhaka, sorry but fix your english terminology it's not going to work on us Bengalis.
Thank you for sharing your views 😊
The USA has one language which is English inspite of having immigrants from all over the world. Jinnah was correct in declaring Urdu as the national language and English as the official language. It was imperative to have one national language to unite a country.Secondly,the official language of the ruling Muslim Empires of India was either Persian,Turkish and later Urdu but never Bengali.Bengali was just a reginal language like Punjabi, Sindhi etc.
So, I speak as someone who spent most of my life in the U.S. consider myself American of Bengali heritage and I’m also a sociologist and niece of a Mukhti Bahini. Firstly, the U.S. is a settler colonial state that committed its own genocide and has its own problematic history so I’m not sure that this is an appropriate argument. Leaving aside African slaves and native people, immigrants came to the U.S. knowing and accepting that they would have to assimilate to Anglo-American society. What happened in South Asia was something completely different. Bengalis were internally colonized by Pakistan and at some point, enough was enough and India with its own geopolitical interests took advantage. Also, as far as nations with linguistic pluralism-have you ever heard of Switzerland? That was I hope a rhetorical question.
@Redwan Rahman ,Bengali being written in the Hindu Sanskrit had nothing to do with the culture and civilization of the Muslims of India.It was just confined to the state of Bengal. Secondly,all the educated elite of East Pakistan could read and write in Persian,Urdu,Arabic and English.The solution to this Bengali language was to convert the Sanskrit alphabet to the Muslim Persian/Arabic alphabet instead of the Hindu Sanskrit alphabet just like it was done in the case of Punjabi,Sindhi,Kashmiri in West Pakistan.
@Redwan Rahman Also I want to remind you ignorant Bengali nationalists that Farsi was the official language of the Muslims rulers of Bengal which ruled all Bengal for almost 600 years.And Urdu is far closer to Farsi than the Bengali written in the Hindu Script.All the books published during the Muslim rule are published in Farsi and not in the Hindu Sanskrit which you Bengalis consider your own.It was during the British rule who encouraged the Hindu Bengali and their culture to advance in all of Bengal making the Muslims impoverished.
@Redwan Rahman ,You don't understand the Muslim rule in India because you are probably brainwashed.Nobody was asking you to leave the Bengali language but our Muslim civilization in India has it's origin in Central Asia and the Middle East and not some Sanskrit or prakit which is same Hindu shit to me.The Bengali alphabet should have been changed to the Persian/Arabic script in 1947 and that should have been the end of it.That's how even West Pakistanis would have an easier time to learn and read Bengali.Urdu was the national language in most British India and even Hindus and Sikhs admired its sophistication.Don;t forget that people in Pakistan still speak their reginal languages but they are all written in the Persian/Arabic script.Even the great Persian Empire when fell to the Muslims changed their script to Arabic but retained their language.Same is the case with the Seljuks,Ottomans,Mamluks,Spanish Muslims and so on.Don't you Bangladeshi learn the Arabic script when reciting the Quran?
@Redwan Rahman And just to remind you none of the Muslim Empires in India of which you and I are the product never adopted the Hindu Sanskrit or prakit to rule india.They always retained the Persian/Arabic script instead of adopting the local Sanskrit script of the Hindus for their 700 years rule over India.The Farsi/Arabic script is the basis of our Muslim civilization in the Indian subcontinent and not Hindu Sanskrit or Prakit which is alien to our civilization.
As Bangladeshi, I begin with saying that, we still respect pakistan's people. Bangalis have great contribution in building west Pakistan, however Bangalis were never treated equally with respect by pakistan's political leaders. During the east pakistan's era in 60s Bangali people were suppressed by the west pakistan's government, our language, our freedom, our identity were suppressed by west Pakistan. We were considered weak. Finally, Shaikh Mujibur Rahman and many others have decided it's Enough and the people of Bangladesh united to be free from Pakistan. Alhumdullilah with the help of Allah, we gained our freedom. Even though, During war, pakistan's military raped our woman, and killed millions of Bangali people. Our Bangali freedom fighters fought well and won the war. Bangladesh exist now , and we Bangali people still respect pakistan's people. However, We are proud Bangali people, and we will never forget pain, hope you guys understand your mistakes. Thank you.
It is patently false that Bhutto said that he would break the legs of those who attend the Assembly. What he stated was that if we attend the Assembly we will have no leg to stand on. This statement was misstated in the press which fact was established.
It was published during Bhutto's time. He never once said he did not say it.
When will Pakistan apologise to Bangladesh?
Dont know but it should have done up till now
@@TheWartimeLeader Right
Bangladesh was not PART of Pakistan, it was Pakistan (East), we separated present Pakistan and we renamed Bangladesh. Because Muslim League formed at Dhaka on 1906 by Sir Nawab Salimullah and present ruling party Awami League is one of Bangladeshi part, Muslim League >Awami Muslim League >Awami League.
The problem of separation was initiated by Jinnah - when he came to Dhaka and announced that Urdu and only Urdu would be the language of Pakistan. The language movement for Bangla to be an equal language was not accepted.
Why do you think bengali was supposed to be the national language of pakistan?
@@TheWartimeLeader it could have been a national language of equal stature. Moreover Bangladesh constituted 55% of the population, so why do u think that a language spoken by majority of the people can't be a national language?
@@TheWartimeLeader Again pakistani narrow full of hateful mindset.We never tell that Bangla should be state language of pakistan.We tell that Bangla is our mother tounge.We will never use urdu in terms of talking, writing in any govt offices or elsewhere.We want bangla to be used in our area I mean Bangladesh.We have nothing to do with other part of pakistan.Whatever language other part of pakistan wanted they are free to use according to their choice.
@@Bumble-Be 55% not. 56% population thi Bengali
Thank you for showing the correct Map of India and Pakistan....12.25
Thank you for saying that 😊
Doa for us
We Bangali make for you Pakistan
Now you have your own country
When Bangali making Pakistan
Panjab was against Pakistan
So what is Direct Action Day of 16th. August 1946. Muslims mascared thousands of Hindus in Calcutta.
Add English subtitle
Sure 😊
Free Bangladesh Pakistan jindabad 🇧🇩🇵🇰
information video
Thanks 😊
93000 we’re not army - army Was around 23000 only
By 2030 BD will be 25-28th largest economy in the world & Pakistan will be 35th economy in the world.
Good to hear that
@@TheWartimeLeader Thank You. ❤️🇧🇩
In Bangla there is a saying- আল্লাহ যা করেন ভালোর জন্যই করেন...
Whatever Allah does, he does it for good.......
Alhamdulillah, we got independence.......
@Haris_Ahmed_Khan, sorry for recommenting... an Indian ruined the previous one jumping from one topic to another for nothing.....
Indeed it is and no problem you can comment as much as you want. I am always up for healthy discussions 😊
Ab socho hum indians ko kitne taqllf hua hoga jab india se tut kar pakistan bana tha 1947 me.. india kabhi nahi chahta tha ki pakistan bane.. par jinah haat dhokar pakistan banane k ada tha aur india k tukre karna chahta tha... Mai INDIAN BENGALI hun aur Bangladesh ya east pakistan banne ka dukh pata hai muje...
@@saanthbaccha ap channel subscribe kren take partition pr jo me Ayesha Jalal ka interview krun wo ap miss na kren.
@@saanthbaccha Hume bhi pata hai ki kaise kuch chand hindu zamindaron ne East Bengal ko lutke Kolkata jaise shahar banaya tha. ja ke zamindar darpan padhiye, padhiye Mohesh nam ki kahani written by Sharatchandra chatyopadhyay.
Hum to vai banke hi rehna chahta tha. lekin ek East Bengal province bhi aap logon ko accha nahi laga tha. ek Dhaka University banane mey bhi bade andolan karna para tha....
mulk aise waise nahi tut ti. ravaiya tut deti hai. aur agar hum bangali na jagte to Pakistan bhi nahi banta... Jinnah kaun hai? hum kisi Jinnah ko jante nahi the. HS Shohrawardi jaise leader chaha is liye tuta.
aur wo thik kiya. apne logon ke huq ke liye kiya.
Phir bhi Sarat Chandra Bose and AK Fazlul Hoque jaise leaders koshis kiya tha ek independent Bengal ke liye. Wo bhi Congress aur Hindu mahasabha ne nahi hone diya. To afsos ki baate karke kya hoga? Ap WB ko dekh lijiye, India ka leading state may se ek hai, aur Bangladesh ko dekhiye, World's fastest growing Major Economy.
afsos kis baat ka?
আর দাদা, বাঙ্গালী হয়ে পাকিস্তানীর চ্যানেলে আরেক বাঙ্গালীর সাথে হিন্দিতে কথা বলতে বিরক্ত লাগতেছে। পারলে বাংলায় জবাব দিয়েন।
@@mdits249 bhai sabki apne apni soch hai.. mera mama ghar originally bangladesh me padta hai... Nowakhali, khulna.. me... Kitne takleef hua tha. Bangladesh se sab kuch chor k india me ana... Meri nani kehte the. .. bhara pura pariwar aur sb jamin jaidad chor k india aana pada tha...kitne taqeef hue hoga socho.... Koi kuch loot k nahi gaya hai.. Kolkata khud se samriddh tha..kise k bolne se biswaas nahi hoga..
My father said that pk army burned our house, then they went to India. Pk army killed a lot of innocent ppl.in 71 we fought for
Democracy, but today in bd there is no democracy.
The rise of Dhaka
We always wanted to live as proud Pakistani since the partition in 1947. But you guys need to go back what you did to us!! 23 years of oppression! You never treated us as Pakistani. Your leaders and military dictators always treated us differently in all aspects. We had no option except independence led by Father of the Nation Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman.
We can move forward like brothers now 😊
@@TheWartimeLeader brother ? You ? Seriously ?
@@sirazuddaula1136 thank you for watching. What are your thoughts on the show? 😊
@@TheWartimeLeader take interviews some of Bangladeshi intellectuals such as Salimullah khan or Farhad Mazhar
@@TheWartimeLeader brother joke from a pakistani.Its laughable.pakistan have to seek public official apology from Bangladesh because of their genocide in 1971.