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  • @neilfishman1138
    @neilfishman1138 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The understanding that it’s not the fear of sleep but fear of being awake is accurate,and teaching your brain ,by experiencing enjoyable moments,that being awake is fun....just wow!so useful.thank you🤗

    • @thesleepcoachschool8192
      @thesleepcoachschool8192  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Neil thanks! You know I read this book on mindfulness based therapy for insomnia by Jason Ong and he said that when you have insomnia, you’re trying to “escape wakefulness”. That really caught my attention, I realized sleeplessness (I usually talk about the fear of sleeplessness) is really the same thing as wakefulness! And - when you say it that way, you see how there truly isn’t anything you should be afraid of! And the step then isn’t far at all to what you’re saying: being awake can be fun!!

    • @neilfishman1138
      @neilfishman1138 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Sleep Coach School by the way,couldn’t find the book on amazon,i really want to buy it.maybe they don’t ship to israel?not sure.is there a way i can purchase it elsewhere?

    • @neilfishman1138
      @neilfishman1138 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Sleep Coach School it is just as the fear of failure and the fear of success are similar

    • @thesleepcoachschool8192
      @thesleepcoachschool8192  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi! I just sent an email to Amazon to see if they have any idea. If not, I’ll set up a way to get signed copies out to anywhere in the world using PayPal or something like that! I’ll let you know what they ssy

    • @thesleepcoachschool8192
      @thesleepcoachschool8192  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right, this is very interesting indeed... we just talked about success regress where the fear coming from doing better causes trouble. It’s funny how at the same time, the workings of the mind can seem both simple and complex from moment to moment, or even at the same time!

  • @daynnight_lady
    @daynnight_lady ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is nice.
    Maybe insomnia sufferers have this fear was because the materials and videos we are watching would always tell us if you did not get a good sleep, you will develop heart problem, diabetes, etc.
    Given how these diseases would be deadly, people would really panic and would "stress-out" that they still haven't sleep. 😅

    • @thesleepcoachschool8192
      @thesleepcoachschool8192  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you Auds, and I think this is unfortunately exactly what’s happening. Hopefully we can change the narrative 😊

  • @Thesnydersquad
    @Thesnydersquad 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had this thought last night when I was lying in bed accepting wakefulness and wanted to get your thoughts.
    If I’m lying in bed, allowing wakefulness but still lying there trying to keep my thoughts peaceful, is that a sleep effort? It’s jamming my brain a little bit on what is and isn’t a sleep effort because everyone lies down at night in hopes that they will fall asleep. So it’s paradoxical and also keeps me awake lol.
    Also thank you and Alina for making your videos. They have made me feel so much more peaceful whether I’m able to get sleep or not. I was doing CBTi and getting 7-8 hours of sleep but still worrying about sleep all day long. Now, I’m getting less sleep but also worrying about it less during the day, which is much better for me mentally.

    • @thesleepcoachschool8192
      @thesleepcoachschool8192  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very glad there less worry and you know, you’re right that trying to make thoughts peaceful so we can sleep is a sleep effort. It’s what we call an intangible sleep effort, and like all efforts, just seeing them can really lead to change 🙂

  • @kristaquin
    @kristaquin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Daniel, your videos/podcasts have been life-changing for me. I'd like to nominate you to be the authority on chronic insomnia. Your teaching clarifies the entire process, while other "authoritative" sources present insomnia in a way that makes no sense to me. For example, Mayo Clinic online has a list of causes of chronic insomnia, which includes stress, travel, acid reflux...and other sleep disruptors/inciting factors. There's no mention of resisting wakefulness as a cause, but this is THE KEY! So my question for you is: how can we completely replace the "mainstream" sleep education material with your content? Once that happens, there will be a trickle-down effect to other educators and professionals who encounter insomnia in their practice so that they can have a clue about what they're doing (because too many have no clue).

    • @thesleepcoachschool8192
      @thesleepcoachschool8192  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This, this means so much to read.. really 🙏 And you know, sometimes I ponder this too, how does what we talk about here reach the mainstream where it is so needed? I think this is it actually, you tell someone, they tell someone. Soon enough a person with a large following becomes interested. But one thing I think is very clear - truth is sticky! Sooner or later what we teach here WILL become mainstream simply because it’s more true than what you find in the current establishment.
      Thank you so much for being part of this movement!!

    • @yonahokoth
      @yonahokoth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This content is the real solution. I wonder how all the psychiatrist's got it wrong. They instead make a simple problem worse with meds.

    • @thesleepcoachschool8192
      @thesleepcoachschool8192  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sometimes the simple truth is so hard to see… hope we can change the way things are done now 😊

  • @GarryWilliams555
    @GarryWilliams555 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're a legend mate.

  • @Lucypearla
    @Lucypearla 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for this great tip 🙌. It makes so much sense.

    • @thesleepcoachschool8192
      @thesleepcoachschool8192  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Anytime! Glad you liked it and welcome to the channel!

    • @Lucypearla
      @Lucypearla 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Sleep Coach School Thank you, it’s a great channel you have 😊

  • @Seanscichlids
    @Seanscichlids 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad I found this video this is also a question I had. I used to read in bed before the insomnia started. I stopped because of what my CBT-I coach said, and that was to only sleep in bed. The befriending wakefulness almost sounds like the CBT-I method of getting out of bed every 15 to 20 minutes if you're not asleep. Though the befriending sounds better because it's not putting pressure on you to hit some timing window. I would other rather read the book in my bed then go to another room as CBT-I suggests.

    • @thesleepcoachschool8192
      @thesleepcoachschool8192  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So glad you did! And you know, some things from CBTi can look similar to what we teach here, but the intent is what makes it different. With CBTi, typically the intent is to try to create an association of sleep and bed, but here we think that whenever we try to willfully create such associations, then things become tricky. However, when we go the opposite direction, leaving attempts at trying to have control… then things fall into place by themselves. Oh and yes the timeless way I think helps, as you said, having time components create so much pressure and preoccupation!

  • @nbnbnbnbjjjo
    @nbnbnbnbjjjo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have stopped controlling, accepted the uncertainty. But I can't stop the fear. I don't know how. Its part of me. I also fear ill never stop fearing.

    • @thesleepcoachschool8192
      @thesleepcoachschool8192  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Annie, you’ve come a long way on an often difficult journey... this is amazing! And you know, fear is an emotion that like any thoughts and emotions is fleeting unless we try to avoid it or blame ourselves for having it... maybe listen to Insomnia insight 363, it talks about this... hang in there!

  • @amberh476
    @amberh476 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How do you keep the hope alive that you will get better and sleep will return? What are some reassuring things we can remember or turn to when we need hope?

    • @thesleepcoachschool8192
      @thesleepcoachschool8192  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Amber, you know, this is such a common question and the thing is, peace of mind and peaceful sleep do not require anything… not even hope or optimism, and when we aren’t pressured to feel any certain way, then things get easier 🙂

  • @MrFastmq
    @MrFastmq 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your help!

  • @yoshiprime3949
    @yoshiprime3949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've suffered from severe anxiety my whole life, Im 34 now. Recently been suffering from severe ansomnia, jolting awake everytime I'm about to drift off to sleep. Terrible headaches every day, I can feel my heartbeat in my head..Even if I manage to get a tiny bit of sleep, i never feel fully asleep. I just have the worst and insane nightmares. Waking up feeling exhausted. Its torture..

    • @thesleepcoachschool8192
      @thesleepcoachschool8192  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi YP,
      I’m sorry to hear how long your struggle has been going on. You know, it can really help to understand the things that seem bizarre as well as where all the pain and bruises come from.
      Insomnia insight 322 is on the former and 346 about the battle scars. I think those can help!
      Hang in there and stay in touch!

    • @thesleepcoachschool8192
      @thesleepcoachschool8192  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Javier, check our hypnic jerk playlist

  • @leticiaalcaraz7663
    @leticiaalcaraz7663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I understand and agree Daniel , I am afraid of being awake so I see how I have to do thing I enjoy to get over this “precieved threat”
    My question is : Any day why i have this fear? Why did my brain get confused and started seeing being awake as a threat?
    Like how did that happen im scrambaling trying to figure it out why I fear it?
    Happy thanksgiving!!!

    • @thesleepcoachschool8192
      @thesleepcoachschool8192  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Leticia!
      Happy thanksgiving to you as well!!
      You know, exactly why may always be a mystery… but it’s not hard to see why this happens.
      Imagine the brain as a survival machine, everything it does is to keep us safe, it’s like a scanner for threats, that’s what it does! And this scanner can just sometimes pick up on something that isn’t a real threat. This isn’t only being awake but often and emotion like feeling anxious.
      Anxiety is a harmless emotion, but the brain can think it shouldn’t be there, that it’s a threat, and then we are in this struggle with anxiety.
      So yes it’s very common and I think just seeing things at this level can help so much!

    • @leticiaalcaraz7663
      @leticiaalcaraz7663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thesleepcoachschool8192 This is going to sounds SO BIZARRE
      But during the day I can go out and enjoy things and not worry
      It’s at nighttime I’m afraid to be awake and go out and live life any reason why only at night? 😭

    • @thesleepcoachschool8192
      @thesleepcoachschool8192  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Leticia,
      This is actually very common… and it’s so great to have this question so more people can learn. Let’s take a look.
      -
      It is actually very common to find that during the day, it’s easy to not pay too much attention to worry thoughts and just go about your business.
      However when it’s night, things are different. The same thoughts become sticky and you experience more anxiety.
      There are several reasons why this is so normal and typical. Firstly, we are a diurnal animal. We are designed for being active during the daytime, our senses are designed to operate during light hours, and we sleep at night partly because this is safest for us. This way we don’t run into a nocturnal predator like a panther! So it’s not strange to see how we are more easily spooked when it’s dark outside.
      It can also feel scary to be awake at night because we think we shouldn’t be. It feels like everyone else is asleep and something must be wrong with us.
      Finally we are less distracted. There are less things where our attention is directed.
      This said, what can we do when we find ourselves worrying at night?
      Knowing that this is normal is often what helps the most. Because when we see that it’s not strange or unusual, then we try less to stop it. And when we no longer try to stop worrying… then there’s no resistance and things become peaceful all by themselves.

  • @user-mlf
    @user-mlf 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    t's been a few weeks of waking up after a few minutes of sleep and not being able to sleep for hours. I try to read, do audiobooks, read mantras I've written to try to not fear sleeplessness and future tiredness/illness due to sleeplessness but it isn't seeming to 'click' in my mind. So I still 'fear' nighttime and get frustrated after a few hours awake. Any other recommendations or just keep going and hopefully I will eventually lose that 'fear'/'anxiety' after more weeks of not sleeping well and seeing I'm okay. I watched your video on fatal insomnia and how it's extremely unlikely - that is helpful. I will watch more videos! I appreciate your time so much!

    • @thesleepcoachschool8192
      @thesleepcoachschool8192  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi! Yes just watching more you’ll see it clearly, it’s the “I try to…” that creates some struggle because the intent is to sleep…. When we do what we feel like and separate the intent from sleep or feelings, then what we want happens by itself

  • @therightstuff1110
    @therightstuff1110 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for your videos and the Natto book, I found some very helpful ideas and perspectives in them. As for befriending wakefulness: For me it's rather daytime tiredness that's terrible. Nighttime wakefulness is only moderately unpleasant. So when I try to do somethig nice (reading, music) when I'm awake, I feel that this will make daytime tiredness even worse, or else it's a sleep effort. So I can't really enjoy it because there's this constant background thought "You'll be paying this back with interest tomorrow". Any suggestions?
    I can't really befriend daytime tiredness because it simply sucks. The only path I see is to allow it to be there, work around it and commit some memories to my memory banks that I can get through the day even when tired, so I become less scared of it.
    Tangent: I sometimes compare insomnia with being overly nervous when talking to a group of people: The more nervous you are, the harder it'll be, so you get even more nervous (another natto problem). To someone in this situation I would recommend to basically do "exposure therapy", starting with small audiences and then increasingly larger ones. Maybe sleep is like that (except the size of the audience is random)?

    • @thesleepcoachschool8192
      @thesleepcoachschool8192  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for your kind words! The creator reads all the comments and is really happy you found the video helpful. Your support means a lot!

  • @Whatisthat-p9j
    @Whatisthat-p9j 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you have a video about waking yourself up right when your almost asleep? Not sure the term for it

    • @thesleepcoachschool8192
      @thesleepcoachschool8192  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Sabah, we have an entire playlist on this, look for the one on Hypnic jerks and hypnic awareness

  • @user-mlf
    @user-mlf 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Am I teaching my brain a habit of waking up and staying awake all night by getting out of bed and doing activities? I fear I'm going to be training my body to be awake at those hours night after night if I get out of bed. Currently, I try to stay in bed and read or listen to an audiobook. Would getting up and doing activities create a signal in my brain to continue to wake up during those hours (almost like a night shift job)?

    • @thesleepcoachschool8192
      @thesleepcoachschool8192  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You know, this question is answered in episode 382, hope that will really help

  • @user-xh3uj9kp7v
    @user-xh3uj9kp7v ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always regret for people that when they put their head on pillow they sleep so fast without undrestanding not like me one night i have somniphobia .i scare of sleeping . One night im scare of wakefulness. One night i just remember thenight that i didnt sleeep and this scare me . Really hapiness is not in money . Its in sleeping good , fast , without undrestanding.

    • @thesleepcoachschool8192
      @thesleepcoachschool8192  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi there,
      Thanks for sharing and being here and you know, we call this sleep envy, it’s naturally very common in our space.
      By coincidence, I found a really really nice podcast episode on sleep envy that I hope can help:
      www.bethkendall.com/podcast
      It’s the episode titled sleep envy. Thanks again for sharing and be in touch 🙂

  • @crystalv7945
    @crystalv7945 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have a video on how a person can stop talking to themselves in there head so that the brain can relax and sleep?

    • @thesleepcoachschool8192
      @thesleepcoachschool8192  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Crystal, you know, almost all our episodes cover how we can meet thoughts (talking in our head)… basically our teaching is that the thoughts are messages that are amplified when we try to stop them, and become fleeting when we are willing to hear them. Hang in there and let us know how things go

  • @truongnguyen53
    @truongnguyen53 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Daniel
    If you said wakefulness is a mechanism to defend true threats, therefore it’s already your friend. Thinking like that make sense? You don’t have to be awake to prove it.
    Thanks

    • @thesleepcoachschool8192
      @thesleepcoachschool8192  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh yes, no need to prove this, just the awareness you have alone is all we need really!

  • @truongnguyen53
    @truongnguyen53 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Daniel
    Does this idea is correct?
    If you said to yourself : wakefulness defend me to threats it means it’s my friend. So I should not afraid of it!
    Does it sound right?

    • @thesleepcoachschool8192
      @thesleepcoachschool8192  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes! Wakefulness is our friend, this sounds very nice to me. It’s practical to be awake when there’s some threat, exactly. Wakefulness is nothing to be afraid of. All true to me!!

  • @thecattoldmetodoit4329
    @thecattoldmetodoit4329 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Daniel. I think laying in the dark with my eyes closed or open is a preferred way to befriend wakefulness and welcoming and feeling all the fear worry etc. I don’t want to watch anything or read as I like having no sensory input to my brain as it’s drained from the day so being mindful might be ok and just resting in pitch black. My question is on the tossing and turning. If I have been awake a while and can’t fall asleep I toss and turn constantly. Every few minutes my body “needs” to move position. This in turn creates “battle scars” Any advise on the restlessness in the body that comes with anxiety/wakefulness. Especially if I would prefer to simply lay in the dark.

    • @thesleepcoachschool8192
      @thesleepcoachschool8192  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hi again,
      Yes you know this makes much sense, many tell me this is a gentle and peaceful way to be ok with being awake.
      Now as for the tossing and urge to move, I think here we can learn something about who everything is sort of the same. Meaning: everyone has urges to move, it’s when we judge this as “not normal” or that we shouldn’t move this much or in some other way are hard on ourselves that there’s some struggle. Because when we try to resist, then there’s pressure, and the more we resist the more pressure until we just have to do the thing to get release. Then there’s judgment and more resistance etc.
      So yes allowing ourselves to toss and to turn without judgement, being Kind and gentle with ourselves, I think this is they way.

  • @nicoc7024
    @nicoc7024 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think that’s where the Hypnic jerks come from, it’s your body waking you because of the fear of wakefulness.

    • @thesleepcoachschool8192
      @thesleepcoachschool8192  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      100%, I’d say we all have jerks, but without that fear, we don’t notice them

  • @lesudesu1620
    @lesudesu1620 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i think sometimes wakefulness is the irrational fear but you need to close your eyes to fall asleep so my question is, what if closing your eyes with nothing enjoyable to distract you is your fear?

    • @thesleepcoachschool8192
      @thesleepcoachschool8192  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Sunada, it’s true we can come to fear really anything.. many on the channel have experienced somniphobia, when there’s a fear of sleeping or the process of falling asleep. To me, the answer is to not judge yourself for being afraid, to take note of the fear without criticism… and let things happen.. if you close your eyes, become scared.. and then allow the fear to happen.. you’ll see things becomes more peaceful

  • @dskurth
    @dskurth ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you talk about the fear of not sleeping … that keeps you awake?

    • @thesleepcoachschool8192
      @thesleepcoachschool8192  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Debbie,
      This entire channel is about this! Check the This is Natto playlist for a great place to start learning

  • @George-em2rt
    @George-em2rt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have an email I can contact you on?

  • @markrobinson8331
    @markrobinson8331 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wll not buy you book, i awake with complex poblems... solved, iq 122 . no sleep

    • @thesleepcoachschool8192
      @thesleepcoachschool8192  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hang in there Mark! And there’s nothing in my books that aren’t discussed in depth here! Hope you find a path to sleeping well Mark

    • @markrobinson8331
      @markrobinson8331 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thesleepcoachschool8192
      I told you I'm not buying your books

    • @thesleepcoachschool8192
      @thesleepcoachschool8192  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally understand Mark... and anything that can make the channel better, let me know!

  • @markrobinson8331
    @markrobinson8331 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are ......wrong

    • @thesleepcoachschool8192
      @thesleepcoachschool8192  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes... this is true, I try to learn.. thanks for pointing me in the direction of learning Mark