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What a spectacle! 😃 I'm in stasis watching this show. I'm loving every video of The Black & White Minstrel Show that you've been posting and with this excellent image quality. Thank you for sharing these gems with us.
One of my very first pro gigs as a musician was at Butlins, Minehead in 1976 - I'm sure that this Peter Kaye used to be in the variety shows as a stand-up. Pretty good he was, too. Never heard of since...
@@realgroovy24 These episodes have been circulating among various groups since at least the early 2000's. When Google Plus was a thing I'd spoken to users there who had various episodes as well as some sellers printing bootleg DVD's of the show. I got handed one complete episode back in 2020 previously. They've been passed about so much at this stage I feel if you look the gift horse in the mouth you'll just see horses all the way down.
That is still a bit of a mystery to me, I have spoken to several people over the years who had episodes and even got given one back in 2020. Various episodes have been privately traded since at least the early to mid 00's and I even found evidence of episodes being sold on a bootleg DVD at one point. At this point it feels like if I look the gift horse in the mouth I'll just see an infinite number of horses.
@@tcac1687 They also wiped all the Minstrel shows from 1966. TOTP would have rights to negotiate with every single pop star or group for reruns along with the fact that a monthly pop roundup would be outdated after broadcast whereas the minstrel shows could be more easily repeated and would have far less rights issues so that may be why episodes ended up being retained more often. The Minstrel show was also very popular overseas so a lot of episodes survived as film or tape copies because they were sent abroad.
America's history was not ours, so I don't see why we have to regard these as shameful, they are good old British pantomime which made people happy whether it was men dressed as ugly women, the whiteface of a clown or the blackface of a minstrel.They all had their origins in something unpleasant but we turned them over into something positive and uplifting.
@@Comfortzone99The UK is deeply tied to the history, Minstrel troupes would travel to the west end to try and make their fortunes, often they were advertised as being "educational" and explicitly reinforcing the idea that black people were inferior to white people.
And Jimmy Savile was in the studio next door filming Jim’l Fixit and fiddling with the kids …. And Stewart Hall was filming It’s a Knockout for the BBC and fiddling with the kids …. Solid good old fashioned BBC entertainment
@@cclewes7373 Lennie Henry had no issue at the time, stop the race baiting and move on. It was Saturday night entertainment at the time and as a child never never thought it was anything but song and dance. Today you have Danny Dyer on a Saturday night.
@@cclewes7373 I do actually fully understand and agree with what you say. Please though don’t be too harsh on past generations. I would challenge anyone to find any racist attitudes in me, having stood in protest opposing a racist march, but as a child I didn’t spot the racism behind this. For most it was just entertainment.
This content is hosted here as close to it's original form as possible to act as educational research content so the program can be judged in full with it's content in context. If you would like to learn more about the racial stereotypes this show was based on consider visiting the web page for "The Jim Crow Museum"' for a in depth exploration of the culture of the time and how it affected people's lives. jimcrowmuseum.ferris.edu/index.htm
This was a British show therefore it shouldn't be regarded as a 'Jim Crow' legacy
What a spectacle! 😃 I'm in stasis watching this show. I'm loving every video of The Black & White Minstrel Show that you've been posting and with this excellent image quality. Thank you for sharing these gems with us.
Saw them in Scarborough in 1966 on holiday. I was nine.
One of my very first pro gigs as a musician was at Butlins, Minehead in 1976 - I'm sure that this Peter Kaye used to be in the variety shows as a stand-up. Pretty good he was, too.
Never heard of since...
I never knew they weren’t black until I was much older
How did these get released? Did someone sneak into the archives of the BBC and get the reels out onto the internet archive and TH-cam? Good stuff!
@@realgroovy24 These episodes have been circulating among various groups since at least the early 2000's. When Google Plus was a thing I'd spoken to users there who had various episodes as well as some sellers printing bootleg DVD's of the show. I got handed one complete episode back in 2020 previously. They've been passed about so much at this stage I feel if you look the gift horse in the mouth you'll just see horses all the way down.
That is still a bit of a mystery to me, I have spoken to several people over the years who had episodes and even got given one back in 2020. Various episodes have been privately traded since at least the early to mid 00's and I even found evidence of episodes being sold on a bootleg DVD at one point. At this point it feels like if I look the gift horse in the mouth I'll just see an infinite number of horses.
And they’re miming.
The bbc kept this but wiped totp 1966 with the Beatles
@@tcac1687 They also wiped all the Minstrel shows from 1966. TOTP would have rights to negotiate with every single pop star or group for reruns along with the fact that a monthly pop roundup would be outdated after broadcast whereas the minstrel shows could be more easily repeated and would have far less rights issues so that may be why episodes ended up being retained more often.
The Minstrel show was also very popular overseas so a lot of episodes survived as film or tape copies because they were sent abroad.
Of course you cannot show it today as it’s quite outrageous really. My grandmother just loved it - and she was mixed race.
America's history was not ours, so I don't see why we have to regard these as shameful, they are good old British pantomime which made people happy whether it was men dressed as ugly women, the whiteface of a clown or the blackface of a minstrel.They all had their origins in something unpleasant but we turned them over into something positive and uplifting.
@@Comfortzone99The UK is deeply tied to the history, Minstrel troupes would travel to the west end to try and make their fortunes, often they were advertised as being "educational" and explicitly reinforcing the idea that black people were inferior to white people.
@@Aeonterbor
If anything it's the opposite as it depicts white girls with black guys
It’s no more outrageous than men pretending to be women, and the latter is all the rage.
Can't believe the BBC showed this
And Jimmy Savile was in the studio next door filming Jim’l Fixit and fiddling with the kids ….
And Stewart Hall was filming It’s a Knockout for the BBC and fiddling with the kids ….
Solid good old fashioned BBC entertainment
Go back to your snowflakes troll boy
In the days when the world wasn't full of left wing bellyaching snowflakes.
@@johnnyhock Don't give up the day job, you're not funny.
This is far better than any of the dross they churn out today.
Funny
All I ask is 'Why'. Obviously they are talented do why the painted faces, a real shame.
It's pantomime a disconnection from reality.. Clowns used to have white paint faces.
Yes it does seem odd but then it was aimed for the Music Hall generation
Yes it is a bit odd but then it was aimed at the Music Hall generation
Old Peter kaye did well to go on to do Pheonix Nights.
Thank God we've moved on from this
Moved on to where... waving plastercine flags while the country crumbles under forced diverse backward cultures and attitudes?😅
There is always one!
@@alunmurison7421 Don't think this was popular with black people
@@cclewes7373 Lennie Henry had no issue at the time, stop the race baiting and move on. It was Saturday night entertainment at the time and as a child never never thought it was anything but song and dance. Today you have Danny Dyer on a Saturday night.
@@cclewes7373 I do actually fully understand and agree with what you say. Please though don’t be too harsh on past generations. I would challenge anyone to find any racist attitudes in me, having stood in protest opposing a racist march, but as a child I didn’t spot the racism behind this. For most it was just entertainment.
Grim days. Grim.