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Your video proves that Giannis will not domitate in anyway possible without good coaching and a well coordinated team. What kind of question was that? Wouldn't it be sad to see him struggle once again like he did in the last playoffs vs the Celtics trying to carry one more team into another turnament? I don't want to see it. 2019's coaching was a disaster and a shame.
@@NikosReegas I think we didn’t see the same series lol. If yo watched the game the only bad game he had were game 2 and the 2nd half of game 7. Even the stats prove he had a great serie
@@Mahmoud-bl3hp Giannis will not dominate by himself.That was your question. Did you watch the last time he played with the national team? All the games? That was a discrace on the part of the coaching.I don't want to see him giving his all again on a "pass-to-giannis" game like plan.Those people in Greece need to get serious.As for the series,yes it was great.. but still Giannis was gased and the rest couldn't contribute even in small amount. This man was dying on the court every game.
@@NikosReegas the thing is that giannis is not the same player as he was in 2019 and I’m not saying this as a dick rider but as a fact he’s if you compare he’s play style before and now giannis plays way more off ball which makes it way harder too build a wall and Giannis with the ball has gotten way better at everything. In 2019 giannis wasn’t a good passer he just had a high usage rate now Giannis is an incredible passer. I don’t think he’ll dominate like in the nba but saying he will play at the same level is pure delusion
For the international basketball dummy. Three years ago Greece was coached by someone who didn't have experience at this level. Now Greece has one of the best coaches in Europe. And an assistant coach of the Bucks. So I don't see how Giannis will not be better. But Europe has some super teams. So it's hard to medal.
Στην μπανανία που ο καθένας κάτι ότι θέλει ο προπονητής των μπακς μπήκε στο προπονητικό επιτελείο όχι για να προπονήσει την μπανανία. Αλλά για να βγάλει τον σουπερστάρ από το παρκέ στην παραμικρή μικρή αναποδιά
@@soik1401 Also the abysmal 3-pointers from the team ... I remember that I had checked it back then, but if I remember correctly, the best 3 point shooter for our team, on that occassion was Printezis. That's like saying "yeah! most dunks in the team made by Muggsy Boggs, we are heading for a medal" We either shoot the 3 with a decent percentage and the paint opens up a bit or no coach can help us.
That and a shorter 3-pt line makes it a smaller distance than in the NBA to help off others and close the driving gaps for Giannis even before he gets to the paint
The problem at that time was that he wasn't playing like a big man yet and he was still playing as a big guard plus now he has a better post up and middys
Let's add to all that that the calls he was getting were.... questionable quite frequently, especially vs the Czech Republic where he got two offensive fouls in transition when the defender definitely wasn't "set" yet
i just watched that highlight with that long hair dude man what a joke a a call was that second clip it was a floap but at the same time not a realy a floap cause he wasn't set
Hes a complitely different player now.Better passer,better finisher,better mid-range shooter,better in the post and much stronger.Also i hope the refs show him some damn respect because i still remember the bogus calls against Czech but Europes golden boy Doncic gets all the calls.Having an actual coach will help too
Giannis for me is the best finisher of all time But last year he wasnt at that level He was insane for sure but not the best all time i expect a bounce back
He still sucks a passer.He still has zero moves other than a dunk,i dont know where you got that.Mid range shooter😂😂😂Bruh serbia will take your head off and giannis will have 14points and 8 rebounds
@@newchannel416 Giannis has improved a lot as both a passer and a shooter (he’s got a better pull-up and consistent post-fadeaway on both sides of the court). If u haven’t seen this on display in the NBA playoffs and regular season the last few years that’s on you
Giannis played well in the last Fiba tournament. He was by far our best player. Our coach was horrible with not even European experience, really bad team selection, tactics and motivation of players. We played great defence on USA but shot horribly. The players were not well prepared mentally.
I wouldn't say he played that well. He was good..But you would kinda expect more from him. He was much more inpatient than now, wanted to do too much alone (do we pinch this on him or lack of instructions from the coaching staff?) and etc.
@@AugustasSuliauskas you don't think he was best player on greece team? For me he was by far our best player and the only player who played close to their normal level. If you look at stats and "eye test" every player on the roster played a lot worse for greece in fiba world cup and previous euribasket than for their clubs. Much lower fg % especially from 3 and FTS. The main reason for this is awful coaching of high school greek level. Shouting at players all the time nervous, passing this on to our team who therefore was not mentally prepared for the game. Giannis was 3rd option on offense playing most minutes at the 4 or 5 getting little touches in slow half court offense. So he was basically put as defensive player and really not utilised offensively at all. I think he did well considering the awful coaching and he was by far our best player and the only one who (for me) did not have a disappointing tournament. It's difficult for him because he is NBA style player and fiba is more finesse game
@@kambge παίξαμε χάλια διότι είχαμε όντως χάλια προπονητή και επίσης δεν ήμασταν καθόλου οργανωμένοι σαν επίθεση όπως μπορείς να καταλάβεις από 5:36 ! Επίσης ο Γιάννης τότε νόμιζε επειδή είχε πάρει το MVP κτλ κτλ πορεί να κάνει ότι θέλει στο παγκόσμιο... Που αυτό εννοείτε ότι είναι λάθος του αλλά και οι υπόλοιποι νόμιζαν ότι μόνο σε αυτόν πρέπει να βασιστούν... Οπότε είναι φταίξιμο όλων αλλά ο Γιάννης με βάση τα κανονικά στατιστικά του πήγε χάλια
@@adamisgianniss φιλε ο Γιάννης πήρε 25 λεπτά το παιχνίδι, ο καλύτερος μας παίχτης από το στατιστικό "PER' Efficiency, είχε 14.8 πόντους, 8.8 rebound και 2.4 κλεψίματα σε μονο 25 λεπτά!! Δεν μπόρεσε να παίξει σαν MVP του ΝΒΑ επειδή τον έβαλλε ο σκουρτόπουλος σαν αμυντικό 4ari και 5ari και τρίτο option στην επίθεση. Μια χαρά έπαιξε ο Γιάννης με fg 50% και 70% από την γραμμή. Για να δούμε ΝΒΑ MVP level γιάννη θα πρέπει να έχουμε και ΝΒΑ level προπονητή που ευτυχώς έχουμε φέτος.
@@kambge Συμφωνώ πως ο Γιάννης ήταν ο καλύτερος παίχτης μας, αλλά στην μη ύπαρξη κανενός σχεδίου από πλευράς προπονητή αντέδρασε προσπαθώντας να παίξει μόνος του. Δεν έφταιγε καθόλου αυτός αλλα όταν τελειώσει την καριέρα του αυτό θα αναφερεται ως ένα πολύ μέτριο τουρνουά που έκανε. Ελπίζω τώρα να έχει λιγότερο την μπάλα στα χέρια γιατί αν φτασουμε πάλι σε επιθέσεις που 5 μαρκάρουν τον Γιάννη κι αυτός στο τέλος του χρόνου την δίνει στον Καλάθη δεν παμε πουθενά. Σουτέρ δεν έχουμε ούτε τώρα άρα πρέπει να παίζουμε συνέχεια πικ εντ ρολ ή πικ εντ ποπ.
2022 Giannis is evolved from 2019 Giannis. Even some of the clips showing his turnovers he's a much improved passer as far as timing and accuracy in comparison with his first MVP season. He also handles the balls less, plays off-ball more including as the screener in the high-screen game. He's also become a better post-up player and is a great passer out of the double team. That and Itoudis is a legit excellent coach and I am sure will stagger minutes as best as possible to get the best spacing lineup for him. That being said, Greece will compete mostly because of their defensive tenacity.
Agree with your points Paul. Thanks for posting. I think players like Papapetrou, Dorsey and Papanikolao will need to play a more prominent role. We need a consistent 3 point shot to open up the space for Giannis. Otherwise, it will be a similar story to 2019. Slovenia, Spain and Argentina are examples of teams with excellent shooters. Also, recall the team USA line up in the 2014 world cup.
Fisrt of all great analysis. You really saw the whole picture. Regarding my national team I am optimistic about the results in the upcoming eurobasket for some reasons. 1) Giannis himself has improved a lot since the World Cup. Teams in the NBA had figured how to stop him in the playoffs as well as we all remember. Giannis suffered in the playoffs of 2019 and 2020 having to face the "wall" defense. However that was not the case in the next two postseasons when he really dominated. Even this year against the incredibly tough defense of the Celtics and without the help of Khris, Giannis was still too much to handle and forced a game 7 practically on his own, as the rest of the Bucks team didn't perform well overall. 2) Second this time Greece has a regular coach and not just a good one, but a top class one and that can totally flip the script for us. As you said in the video it was evident the lack of ideas in our game, despite the fact that Greece had two of the best playmakers in Europe in the likes of Sloukas and Calathes. In the coaching staff of Greece excpet a member of the Bucks, there is also a member of the Bartzokas' staff, so I am expecting to see a lot of off ball movement and cuts that will help utilize Giannis and exploit the mismatches that he will create. 3) Last but not least we have a player in our roster that I believe we really missed in previous tournaments. That of course is Tyler Dorsey that will probably compete this year with the National Team. His perimeter shot and of course the ability he has in 1 on 1 situations are two elements that are much needed with Giannis on court. He really can be a pain in the ass for the opposing defense, when Giannis will be on court with him (so the defense will have to primarily focus on him) and subsequntly Tyler will have extra room to perform. Of course all these are in theory so we will have to wait a little more to see him and the rest of the team in action.
Happy you liked it and thanks for the comment. Dorsey will help significantly, I believe they will use Giannis much more off-ball as well since you guys actually have great creators already. I'm excited to see Greece in action. Wouldn't say they are getting the medal since there will be so many good teams but the overall picture before the EuroBasket is much more positive than 3 years ago.
Αμην φιλε!! Εγραψες οτι ακριβως πιστευω!! Θα ειμαστε καλυτεροι και πιο "σοφοι", απο εκει και πέρα παιζει ρολο και το καλο momentum των παιχτών!!Παμε γερά
@@sellianos Έτσι φίλε παίζει ρόλο και το momentum αλλά γενικότερα είμαι αισιόδοξος για τη φετινή ομάδα και για όσο θα έχουμε Σλούκα-Καλάθη-Ντόρσευ στα guards με Ιτούδη εννοείται στον παγκο. Με στεναχωρεί μόνο που δεν έχουμε στην Εθνική το Βεζένκοφ. Πιστεύω οτι θα μας εκτόξευε η παρουσια του και θα ήταν ταμάμ με τον Γιάννη είτε στο 4-5 για σούπερ γρήγορο σχήμα καμικάζι, αλλά και με Σασα στο 3 να του ανοίγει γήπεδο με το καλό του σουτ.
I just don't get why people on either sides are offended by his choice to play for Greece's national team, he grew up in Greece and learn to play basketball with the local mentality (team above anyone else) ,but i wouldn't blame him if he played for Nigeria either, he has reasons for both cases .
but he was born in greece he had never been in nigeria he is parents emigrated illegally to greece in 1991, even applied for a nigeria passport in 2012 it was refused only obtaining a passport in 2013 a greek one and only in 2015 nigeria gave him a passport
You kinda touched but didn't touch on what the main issue was with that 2019 Greek team. Coaching. Greece had to rely on low level coaches due to issues in the federation and internal feuds with the top greek coaches. The BIGGEST upgrade that the Greek NT got this year was getting Itoudis as the coach. I expect the offense to look completely different with Itoudis brilliant offensive sets. You also did not touch on the difference in court dimensions , defensive 3 seconds etc
Yeah, for sure those 3 reasons you mentioned were the biggest reason why Giannis wasn't dominating back then. The court dimensions and rules won't change, but at least the coaching stuff is way better now and of course Giannis has improved a lot, since 2019. He will definitely dominate this year as we saw in the friendly match vs Spain. Hopefully the rest of the team will be able to provide enough from the 3 point line to make it easier for him in the paint.
2019 Giannis is very different from 2022 Giannis, also I noticed that this video was made just now. Greece vs Spain happened a few days ago where he dominated the entire floor for only 20 minutes of play-time. It seems a bit outdated, and sounds like you stopped watching him play for the last three years to get a very old source of comparison. In 2019 he was an MVP, in 2021 he is a Finals MVP, ICYMI.
Giannis in 2019 was no where close as good as he is now. He has now improved his passing, decision making and jump shot massively. Not to mention the teams coach in 2019 wasn't a high level coach, This year the coach is way better.
A lot of things are going to be different this time for both Giannis and Greece . I don't know how far we can get , but i know that coach Itoudis and the boys are gonna give it their all . There are no easy matches , let's take it one game at a time
Giannis is going to dominate. Giannis has grown so much from that 2019 guy that got beat by Kawhi. He can shoot the mid-range now, he plays more four-ball as a screen and roller, also has a post-game. Giannis game requires everyone on the floor to be a space, if his teammates cant hit open shots obviously he will struggle
Reasons are: 1) The NT coach was very inexperienced and did not have a game plan; 2) The opposing teams studied Giannis well and adopted a zone defense scheme as they new Greece would rely on Giannis to dunk or hit rim shots; 3) The NT coach had trouble implementing the pick-n-roll to break the zone defense; 4) The point guards and small forwards had a hard time sinking 3's on the zone defense; 5) The selection of players for the NT was not the best, some players just were not engaged in the WC2019 Tournament, others we're coming to the end of their careers and no longer cared, others were slightly injured, others were a little too young, etc. 6) The Greek players had no respect for their coach; 7) Many bad calls from the refs on Giannis calling too often offensive fouls; and 8) Lack of motivation to win, the Greek Basketball Association was going through in-fighting, which caused discourse amongst players from rival Greek teams. I'm sure there are many other reasons but those were the ones I observed...As many have pointed out, Itoudis, has a better IQ and knows that the other teams will be pushing a zone defense on Giannis but watching the games against Great Britain and against Turkey, Greece has better 3 -point shooters like Dorsey, Agravanis, Moraitis and of course Sloukas and to some extent Papapetrou and Calathes. Will see...
Watching the last 2 games against Spain, they still struggle in 3-point plays. But Giannis is used more wisely, mainly in the 5 position, he doesn't carry the ball too much and that's a good thing
Great points Augustas. Some thoughts. First off, setting the foundation: Giannis is a DPOY and a 4x All-Defense. In order to succeed, Greece needs - and has all the tools - to be by far the best defensive team on the tournament. We have a top-3 defensive big man and the best shot blocker in this year’s Euroleague in Papagiannis. One of the best defensive guards in EL history, in Calathes. Papanikolaou had a huge defensive season as well, returning to his standards after struggling with injury the previous season. Thanasis and Kostas Antetokounmpo are defense - first guys, Kalaitzakis, Papapetrou, Larentzakis can also guard. We pretty much have no holes in this area (like our aging legends Bourousis and Printezis, in 2019). Put Giannis in this mix and you might have a defensive juggernaut who can provoke TOs and create transition chances. Even if we try our best, we cannot space the floor. Only Sloukas and Dorsey are above average shooters (42% and 38% in EL this year), so let’s not be too optimistic about that front. Right now, Giannis might be our 3rd best reliable shooter. But, in 5 on 5 as you said is all about creativity. Giannis and Papagiannis as the roll men (btw I’m not a fan of putting Giannis at the 5), post ups, DHOs, decoy plays from the others. Hell, we have Itoudis now, I can sleep peacefully at night knowing how he conduct things. As for the medals, it’s too early. And competition wise, this Eurobasket is far more challenging than the 2019 WC. Slovenia will be there, Italy are a whole different animal, Serbia will have the 2 MVPs and an immense pressure to win, France is a force, Lietuva will be a much better team because Domas and Jonas are much better than 2019, Germany is full of talent, Czechs are great, and the list is endless. Maybe Spain with no Rubio has a slight disadvantage but, you know, who can bet against those guys? We are probably looking into the best Eurobasket ever. Greetings from Athens!
Glad you liked it and thank you for putting time into writing this comment! Can't wait for the EuroBasket myself. Couple points in response: I like and dislike Giannis at the 5: I think he is a great roller and with him, it would be a killer defensive lineup there. BUT.. at the same time, other teams would be putting him in every PnR possible, trying to make him tired, possibly lowering his FG% in the later stages of the game. And I love him more as a free-roaming rim protector on defense. Also, I agree you guys don't have many shooters in the roster. But a lineup for Sloukas, Dorsey, Papapetrou/Papanikolaou, Giannis, Papaggianis does not look that bad for me. Greece obviously have to base their game from the defense, they just can't expect to outscore opponents. I'm not saying medals will be easy, but they are definitely more likely than 2019. Even with other great teams being so stacked this year.
"Italy are a whole different animal" THANK YOU. Finally a Greek who respects us and doesn't believe you'll win 100%. I am very annoyed at the fact that the Orlando Magic won't allow us to have Paolo Banchero for the Eurobasket but a part from him and Leonardo Okeke (who is still a bit too inexperienced), I believe that all our best players are in the squad.
@@giuseppemaggio5894No true basketball fan in Greece disrepects Azzura, man. But you know, there are many idiots and ignorants. You have an amazing team, that proved themselves last summer in Belgrade (hope coach Meo would be there too) so I'm 50-50 on who will emerge in 1st place from our group in Milano. You' ll get Paolo, in the upcoming years I'm sure.
@@SiempreMatias Sacchetti won't be our coach anymore. But I have a lot of trust in Gianmarco Pozzecco. He was a great player and he has done well as a coach in Sassari. He is great in creating an energic and positive environment in the team. Yes I am confident that Paolo will be with us from the next year onwoards and I can't wait to see it
The big difference 2019 and now its the coach ! 2019 Giannis struggled because lack of the systems . Now Greece have one of the best in his bench so prepare to your self to see a different Giannis
Giannis is more improved and more focused this year. The rest of the players are more or less at the same level with those of 2019. The main difference we are waiting for is the coaching, there is no comparison between Itoudis and the other guy(I don't even remember him) back in 2019. I expect better strategy, better teamwork and better help for Giannis overall, although I would not bet that Greece will win the tournament, I'd wish though.
Excellent analysis, congratulations. I think it is very important for Greece at leaste 2 players to shoot with 38% from 3. I would like to see Giannis setting screens with Sloukas and Dorsey. He is good roller and he will be lob threat for every team.
Thank you! I know it's only 1 game but we are already seeing different version of him individually and the way he's used in team's offense. Let's wait and see more patterns.
coach Itoudis is one of the best coaches on earth right now, easilly can be head coach in NBA team, so you are gonna see things that even Bucks are gonna use the next years with Giannis , Bucks are really lucky cause as the years go by Giannis have to change few things offensivelly to stay in top level for the next 7 years on game.
Agree, there are things and opportunities for Giannis in this team with this coach that Giannis hasn't experienced before. He only had coach Bud in Bucks and being in the Greek NT and experiencing a different coach -especially with a coach like Itoudis is a great add-on to his development.
One thing about watching Giannis here in Milwaukee every game is he never stops being a student of the beautiful game. You love to see it. He’ll dominate under the right offensive coaching schemes.
ΤΟ ΕΥΡΩΠΑΙΚΟ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΠΟΛΥ ΔΥΣΚΟΛΟΤΕΡΟ ΑΠΟ ΤΟ ΝΒΑ!! ΑΠΟ ΤΗΝ ΑΛΛΗ Η ΕΛΛΑΔΑ ΕΧΕΙ ΤΟΝ ΚΑΛΥΤΕΡΟ ΠΡΟΠΟΝΗΤΗ ΤΗΣ ΕΥΡΩΠΗΣ ΚΑΙ ΠΑΓΚΟΣΜΙΑΣ ΕΜΒΕΛΙΑΣ!! ΕΥΧΟΜΑΣΤΕ ΤΟ ΚΑΛΥΤΕΡΟ!!!
Hey at least now we know these doubts were all shut down after we’ve gotten to watch Giannis score 30+ points in euro league with only 20 minutes a game 🤯
The Greek National team needs perimeter shooters. Dorsey and Sloukas are consistent 3-point shooters but other players must contribute, so to give him space in the paint. For some weird reason, few Greek players are consistent from the 3-point range.
Last time, it was the coaching staff of Greece thay wasn't adaptive with various plays. I think Itoudis and his staff (one of them is a Bucks' coach) will be better prepared.
In 2019 the Greek NT had a coach who wasn't up to the task and had no backing from anyone. Itoudis is really good in setting up teams to open up space. Papagiannis is pretty good in shootng from midrange and Sloukas, Dorsey, Papanikopalou and even Papapetrou or Larentzakis can stretch the floor. I'm still not sure about how well Calathes and Giannis can fit in the same line-up, you're practically begging the opponents to just pack the paint. If only that idiot Mitoglou hadn't tested positive, he would have been a great piece for this puzzle...
It was so weird seeing Sloukas completely without a clue on the court sometimes. And oh yes, Mitoglou would be huge with Giannis. A center in a lineup with him that can shoot & defend?! Hm, where have I seen this already? Haha
Giannis is a great player but the greek team doesnt base only on him it has other players that have dominate in europe the past few years like kalathis sloukas and papagianinis also this year greek team has a beteer coach than it had 3 years ago.
Greek here! We had a great team 4 yesrs ago, the problem was the coach, he didn't know how to use these great players and connect them to giannis. Now with coach itoudis it is going to be different, he is gonna be the key to success
Reading all these "this aged well" comments and STRUGGLING to understand whether you watched the video or just comment based on the title. LITERALLY says in the beginning "LETS REWIND TO 2019", because guess what, he did struggle 3 years ago. Then, if you WATCH THE VIDEO second part is all about how much he's improved and things might be different... Smh these guys see 1 friendly game and then become so smart
National teams is a totally different cup of tea. It has players that gather up from all over the world, some of them do not even participate in the pre-Euro events but they become available right before the official tournament. Besides that, coach starts with a pretty big number of players, excluding one by one until he has the final 12 of them. There is not a lot of time nor the conditions allow for the team to work on their tactics, to see what works and what not.
Hello to BasketNews. Two weeks ago I gave you my op on why Giannis did not performed as the Superbasketball star that he is in MundoBasket 2019. After watching Greece play Spain, Poland, Georgia and Turkey in friendlies. I believe that my reasons were proven as legit and I have seen the NT improve like I haven't seen it since 2005. Here are some of my new observation: 1) Greece now has a NT coach who does have a game plan; 2) The NT coach knows fully well that the opposing teams will be boxing Giannis on a zone defense but now the rest of the team is working hard on pick-n-rolls as well as 3 pointers; 3) For the first time since 2006 I see the Greek NT having a hunger to win, players who steel, kamikaze themselves to get a lose ball, benchwarmers with passion and a vigor to win; 4) Players like Kaselakis who at 32 shows more passion than the Bourousis back in 2019. He comes off the bench, plays hard defense and shoots 3s without hesitation; 5) The addition of Dorsey has given the NT a speedy 3 pts shooter since the youthful days of Spanoulis, something Greece did not have in 2019; 6) The climate in the Hellenic Basketball Association is exponentially better than it was when the old farts were presiding over it; 7) All the players respect the Greek NT coach and listen to him, something that did not happen in 2019, which is building team spirit and helps players being more comfortable with the way the play and how the shoot. I like what I see and Giannis will be used to bail the team out should there be low moments in a game. We will see.
The coach of Greece in 2019, had only coached women basketball until then. This year Greece's coach has more experienced and is even the Leader coach Of all Euroleagues coaches.
Biggest reason is that Greece does not have any good shooting guards that can punish the opponent from the 3-point line. These means that opposing teams can do a zone defense and put their players in the paint, without worrying that someone will score a 3-pointer. Giannis is always facing 2-3 people when he gets near the basket. No isolation whatsoever.
I definitely think there are ways so that Giannis can be "utilized" the best way possible. However, I think that getting Giannis to be a screen player for pick n' roll situations is not gonna be one of them because when the guards will have the ball outside the 3 point line, the guy playing defense on them will probably give them space so that he can crowd the "driving" spaces of the court... (I might be wrong though)
He did underperform in 2019, but this was not solely his fault imo. The coach we have for the Eurobasket tournament is considered as top-level in Europe and the roster will have more depth than the previous World Cup. This is a good thing for not overrelying on Giannis, which is beneficial for him and the team. I guess time will tell...
Old Greece coach had done very poor job in general, not only to use Giannis. The new coach is a completely different case. He is the right man to do this job.
Im greek and as much as i love Giannis, i dont expect gold this year. Tbh i would be very happy if we make it to the semis and lose there. No shame in that. These guys haven't played together in a long time, add to that the new coach. These things need time to gel
Only the Antetokounmpos haven't been in the team for 3 years. Most of the players know each other quite well since most of them play in the same league and some of them like Sloukas-Kalathes are quite experienced. Even Dorsey who was absent has a full season in Olympiakos. Of course the coach is new to the team. But many elements of this squad are well-known.
I think all Greeks have the same comment here I couldn't agree more! The coach of that 2019 team was a joke. Currently there is a different mentality on and off the court. Coach Itoudis seems determined to get the most out of this generation of players (he could also be a coach to visit NBA, he's young, already achieved a lot here) Some general comments to take into account as well. I think that time Giannis has put more thought (and sweat) to adjust some parts of his style to FIBA rules and his teammates since this generation has some very talented players. Huge difference can be seen already from the first friendly game against Spain. Also keep in mind that this time he will play alongside Thanasis and Kostas which is definitely a huge mental boost.
Isn't it better if the nba applies the same rules from fiba/olympics so the players don't struggle when playing againts other nationalities? Do you remember when USA struggled againts nigeria the last time they played?
Apparently teams just reused the "wall" tactics that Raptors used on him lol.. He's wayy past that sh*t now, don't think Greece will win as think there are at least 3 other teams that are borderline better (Serbia, France, Slovenia, in that order) but everything's possible :)
The problem with greece was that they were shooting poorly and opponetns would get away with closing the paint and that way dealing with giannis. Chalates is a great pg but im not sure if he fits best with giannis as he doestn really make shots consistently. Sloukas and dorsey will really have to shoot well i feel like.
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Yes he’s a much better basketball player now
Your video proves that Giannis will not domitate in anyway possible without good coaching
and a well coordinated team.
What kind of question was that?
Wouldn't it be sad to see him struggle once again like he did in the last playoffs vs the Celtics
trying to carry one more team into another turnament?
I don't want to see it.
2019's coaching was a disaster and a shame.
@@NikosReegas I think we didn’t see the same series lol. If yo watched the game the only bad game he had were game 2 and the 2nd half of game 7. Even the stats prove he had a great serie
@@Mahmoud-bl3hp Giannis will not dominate by himself.That was your question.
Did you watch the last time he played with the national team?
All the games?
That was a discrace on the part of the coaching.I don't want to see him giving his all again on a "pass-to-giannis" game like plan.Those people in Greece need to get serious.As for the series,yes it was great.. but still Giannis was gased and the rest couldn't contribute even in small amount.
This man was dying on the court every game.
@@NikosReegas the thing is that giannis is not the same player as he was in 2019 and I’m not saying this as a dick rider but as a fact he’s if you compare he’s play style before and now giannis plays way more off ball which makes it way harder too build a wall and Giannis with the ball has gotten way better at everything. In 2019 giannis wasn’t a good passer he just had a high usage rate now Giannis is an incredible passer. I don’t think he’ll dominate like in the nba but saying he will play at the same level is pure delusion
For the international basketball dummy. Three years ago Greece was coached by someone who didn't have experience at this level. Now Greece has one of the best coaches in Europe. And an assistant coach of the Bucks. So I don't see how Giannis will not be better. But Europe has some super teams. So it's hard to medal.
Στην μπανανία που ο καθένας κάτι ότι θέλει ο προπονητής των μπακς μπήκε στο προπονητικό επιτελείο όχι για να προπονήσει την μπανανία. Αλλά για να βγάλει τον σουπερστάρ από το παρκέ στην παραμικρή μικρή αναποδιά
@@georgepalaio3745 Και αυτό παίζει. Αλλά μπορεί και να βοηθήσει. Και να μάθει.
The coaching staff will elevate Greece to a completely new level this year.
@@georgepalaio3745 αυτος των μπακς νομιζω οτι ειναι γυμναστης οχι προπονητης
@@soik1401 Also the abysmal 3-pointers from the team ... I remember that I had checked it back then, but if I remember correctly, the best 3 point shooter for our team, on that occassion was Printezis. That's like saying "yeah! most dunks in the team made by Muggsy Boggs, we are heading for a medal"
We either shoot the 3 with a decent percentage and the paint opens up a bit or no coach can help us.
No defensive 3 second rule on the paint in fiba plays big part on why Giannis struggles to drive the basket .
That and a shorter 3-pt line makes it a smaller distance than in the NBA to help off others and close the driving gaps for Giannis even before he gets to the paint
Isn't it 5 sec in fiba
The problem at that time was that he wasn't playing like a big man yet and he was still playing as a big guard plus now he has a better post up and middys
That was the very same thing I thought of before clicking on the video
Bully ball is also not allowed in Fiba. Refs are more sensitive to offensive fouls.
Let's add to all that that the calls he was getting were.... questionable quite frequently, especially vs the Czech Republic where he got two offensive fouls in transition when the defender definitely wasn't "set" yet
Some of them were ridiculous tbh
i just watched that highlight with that long hair dude man what a joke a a call was that second clip it was a floap but at the same time not a realy a floap cause he wasn't set
Just here to remind everyone that the refs of this match weren't aware that you could inbound from half court after a late time-out.
Giannis is head and shoulders above where he was in 2019. He’ll do just fine.
Hes a complitely different player now.Better passer,better finisher,better mid-range shooter,better in the post and much stronger.Also i hope the refs show him some damn respect because i still remember the bogus calls against Czech but Europes golden boy Doncic gets all the calls.Having an actual coach will help too
Giannis for me is the best finisher of all time
But last year he wasnt at that level
He was insane for sure but not the best all time i expect a bounce back
He still sucks a passer.He still has zero moves other than a dunk,i dont know where you got that.Mid range shooter😂😂😂Bruh serbia will take your head off and giannis will have 14points and 8 rebounds
@@newchannel416 hating's not cheap ya know
@@calebmurphy1361 Truth hurts.Come back to this comment when greece gets eliminated and giannis underperfoms once again
@@newchannel416 Giannis has improved a lot as both a passer and a shooter (he’s got a better pull-up and consistent post-fadeaway on both sides of the court). If u haven’t seen this on display in the NBA playoffs and regular season the last few years that’s on you
All comments were written before Giannis dropped 31 in twenty minutes against Spain. He wants the gold in the Eurobasket tournament.
Giannis played well in the last Fiba tournament. He was by far our best player. Our coach was horrible with not even European experience, really bad team selection, tactics and motivation of players. We played great defence on USA but shot horribly. The players were not well prepared mentally.
I wouldn't say he played that well. He was good..But you would kinda expect more from him. He was much more inpatient than now, wanted to do too much alone (do we pinch this on him or lack of instructions from the coaching staff?) and etc.
@@AugustasSuliauskas you don't think he was best player on greece team? For me he was by far our best player and the only player who played close to their normal level. If you look at stats and "eye test" every player on the roster played a lot worse for greece in fiba world cup and previous euribasket than for their clubs. Much lower fg % especially from 3 and FTS. The main reason for this is awful coaching of high school greek level. Shouting at players all the time nervous, passing this on to our team who therefore was not mentally prepared for the game. Giannis was 3rd option on offense playing most minutes at the 4 or 5 getting little touches in slow half court offense. So he was basically put as defensive player and really not utilised offensively at all. I think he did well considering the awful coaching and he was by far our best player and the only one who (for me) did not have a disappointing tournament. It's difficult for him because he is NBA style player and fiba is more finesse game
@@kambge παίξαμε χάλια διότι είχαμε όντως χάλια προπονητή και επίσης δεν ήμασταν καθόλου οργανωμένοι σαν επίθεση όπως μπορείς να καταλάβεις από 5:36 ! Επίσης ο Γιάννης τότε νόμιζε επειδή είχε πάρει το MVP κτλ κτλ πορεί να κάνει ότι θέλει στο παγκόσμιο... Που αυτό εννοείτε ότι είναι λάθος του αλλά και οι υπόλοιποι νόμιζαν ότι μόνο σε αυτόν πρέπει να βασιστούν... Οπότε είναι φταίξιμο όλων αλλά ο Γιάννης με βάση τα κανονικά στατιστικά του πήγε χάλια
@@adamisgianniss φιλε ο Γιάννης πήρε 25 λεπτά το παιχνίδι, ο καλύτερος μας παίχτης από το στατιστικό "PER' Efficiency, είχε 14.8 πόντους, 8.8 rebound και 2.4 κλεψίματα σε μονο 25 λεπτά!! Δεν μπόρεσε να παίξει σαν MVP του ΝΒΑ επειδή τον έβαλλε ο σκουρτόπουλος σαν αμυντικό 4ari και 5ari και τρίτο option στην επίθεση. Μια χαρά έπαιξε ο Γιάννης με fg 50% και 70% από την γραμμή. Για να δούμε ΝΒΑ MVP level γιάννη θα πρέπει να έχουμε και ΝΒΑ level προπονητή που ευτυχώς έχουμε φέτος.
@@kambge Συμφωνώ πως ο Γιάννης ήταν ο καλύτερος παίχτης μας, αλλά στην μη ύπαρξη κανενός σχεδίου από πλευράς προπονητή αντέδρασε προσπαθώντας να παίξει μόνος του. Δεν έφταιγε καθόλου αυτός αλλα όταν τελειώσει την καριέρα του αυτό θα αναφερεται ως ένα πολύ μέτριο τουρνουά που έκανε. Ελπίζω τώρα να έχει λιγότερο την μπάλα στα χέρια γιατί αν φτασουμε πάλι σε επιθέσεις που 5 μαρκάρουν τον Γιάννη κι αυτός στο τέλος του χρόνου την δίνει στον Καλάθη δεν παμε πουθενά. Σουτέρ δεν έχουμε ούτε τώρα άρα πρέπει να παίζουμε συνέχεια πικ εντ ρολ ή πικ εντ ποπ.
2022 Giannis is evolved from 2019 Giannis. Even some of the clips showing his turnovers he's a much improved passer as far as timing and accuracy in comparison with his first MVP season. He also handles the balls less, plays off-ball more including as the screener in the high-screen game. He's also become a better post-up player and is a great passer out of the double team.
That and Itoudis is a legit excellent coach and I am sure will stagger minutes as best as possible to get the best spacing lineup for him.
That being said, Greece will compete mostly because of their defensive tenacity.
Factssss👏👏couldn’t of said it better
Great points Paul! Do you think Greece will have enough shooters?
Agree with your points Paul. Thanks for posting. I think players like Papapetrou, Dorsey and Papanikolao will need to play a more prominent role. We need a consistent 3 point shot to open up the space for Giannis. Otherwise, it will be a similar story to 2019. Slovenia, Spain and Argentina are examples of teams with excellent shooters. Also, recall the team USA line up in the 2014 world cup.
Someone knows what he's talking about
Go Greece go Giannis! Love you Hellas
Fisrt of all great analysis. You really saw the whole picture. Regarding my national team I am optimistic about the results in the upcoming eurobasket for some reasons.
1) Giannis himself has improved a lot since the World Cup. Teams in the NBA had figured how to stop him in the playoffs as well as we all remember. Giannis suffered in the playoffs of 2019 and 2020 having to face the "wall" defense. However that was not the case in the next two postseasons when he really dominated. Even this year against the incredibly tough defense of the Celtics and without the help of Khris, Giannis was still too much to handle and forced a game 7 practically on his own, as the rest of the Bucks team didn't perform well overall.
2) Second this time Greece has a regular coach and not just a good one, but a top class one and that can totally flip the script for us. As you said in the video it was evident the lack of ideas in our game, despite the fact that Greece had two of the best playmakers in Europe in the likes of Sloukas and Calathes. In the coaching staff of Greece excpet a member of the Bucks, there is also a member of the Bartzokas' staff, so I am expecting to see a lot of off ball movement and cuts that will help utilize Giannis and exploit the mismatches that he will create.
3) Last but not least we have a player in our roster that I believe we really missed in previous tournaments. That of course is Tyler Dorsey that will probably compete this year with the National Team. His perimeter shot and of course the ability he has in 1 on 1 situations are two elements that are much needed with Giannis on court. He really can be a pain in the ass for the opposing defense, when Giannis will be on court with him (so the defense will have to primarily focus on him) and subsequntly Tyler will have extra room to perform.
Of course all these are in theory so we will have to wait a little more to see him and the rest of the team in action.
If coach again play that trash ass ballhog calathes as greece main point guard..greece has no chance
Great points!
Happy you liked it and thanks for the comment. Dorsey will help significantly, I believe they will use Giannis much more off-ball as well since you guys actually have great creators already. I'm excited to see Greece in action. Wouldn't say they are getting the medal since there will be so many good teams but the overall picture before the EuroBasket is much more positive than 3 years ago.
Αμην φιλε!! Εγραψες οτι ακριβως πιστευω!! Θα ειμαστε καλυτεροι και πιο "σοφοι", απο εκει και πέρα παιζει ρολο και το καλο momentum των παιχτών!!Παμε γερά
@@sellianos Έτσι φίλε παίζει ρόλο και το momentum αλλά γενικότερα είμαι αισιόδοξος για τη φετινή ομάδα και για όσο θα έχουμε Σλούκα-Καλάθη-Ντόρσευ στα guards με Ιτούδη εννοείται στον παγκο. Με στεναχωρεί μόνο που δεν έχουμε στην Εθνική το Βεζένκοφ. Πιστεύω οτι θα μας εκτόξευε η παρουσια του και θα ήταν ταμάμ με τον Γιάννη είτε στο 4-5 για σούπερ γρήγορο σχήμα καμικάζι, αλλά και με Σασα στο 3 να του ανοίγει γήπεδο με το καλό του σουτ.
As a Nigerian I'm happy for him I want him to do more with Greece
I'm going to support him All the way from Nigeria his origin country 🇳🇬❤️🇬🇷
WELL DONE MY DUDE.CHEERS FROM GREECE
I just don't get why people on either sides are offended by his choice to play for Greece's national team, he grew up in Greece and learn to play basketball with the local mentality (team above anyone else) ,but i wouldn't blame him if he played for Nigeria either, he has reasons for both cases .
but he was born in greece he had never been in nigeria he is parents emigrated illegally to greece in 1991, even applied for a nigeria passport in 2012 it was refused only obtaining a passport in 2013 a greek one and only in 2015 nigeria gave him a passport
You kinda touched but didn't touch on what the main issue was with that 2019 Greek team. Coaching. Greece had to rely on low level coaches due to issues in the federation and internal feuds with the top greek coaches.
The BIGGEST upgrade that the Greek NT got this year was getting Itoudis as the coach. I expect the offense to look completely different with Itoudis brilliant offensive sets.
You also did not touch on the difference in court dimensions , defensive 3 seconds etc
Yeah, for sure those 3 reasons you mentioned were the biggest reason why Giannis wasn't dominating back then. The court dimensions and rules won't change, but at least the coaching stuff is way better now and of course Giannis has improved a lot, since 2019. He will definitely dominate this year as we saw in the friendly match vs Spain. Hopefully the rest of the team will be able to provide enough from the 3 point line to make it easier for him in the paint.
31 points and 10 rebounds in our first friendly match against Spain...
2019 Giannis is very different from 2022 Giannis, also I noticed that this video was made just now. Greece vs Spain happened a few days ago where he dominated the entire floor for only 20 minutes of play-time. It seems a bit outdated, and sounds like you stopped watching him play for the last three years to get a very old source of comparison. In 2019 he was an MVP, in 2021 he is a Finals MVP, ICYMI.
Not really but okay
@@Op-Whatchamacallit how not really?
@@dvdxqa they're about the same just the rules on nba and this are different way different this being fiba ofc
Best thing for me is having Itoudis. The previous coach struggled on how to handle the team and most of the teams it was Giannis making the calls.
Giannis in 2019 was no where close as good as he is now. He has now improved his passing, decision making and jump shot massively. Not to mention the teams coach in 2019 wasn't a high level coach, This year the coach is way better.
Who is here after 30 and 10 vs spain🙋🏻
Thanks for this video! Great analysis too. I hope to see him rolling more often for his national team
Excellent analysis that the most experienced Greek journalists would envy.
Appreciate it Nikos, thank you!
Assuming the Greek journalists are even competent enough to even write a mediocre analysis.
Now that giannis has a great coach scored 31 against spain
A lot of things are going to be different this time for both Giannis and Greece . I don't know how far we can get , but i know that coach Itoudis and the boys are gonna give it their all . There are no easy matches , let's take it one game at a time
Giannis is going to dominate. Giannis has grown so much from that 2019 guy that got beat by Kawhi. He can shoot the mid-range now, he plays more four-ball as a screen and roller, also has a post-game. Giannis game requires everyone on the floor to be a space, if his teammates cant hit open shots obviously he will struggle
This video has aged horrifically
Well he Just dropped 31 in 20 minutes on 10 shots + like 12 rebounds and 4 assist against spain
Reasons are: 1) The NT coach was very inexperienced and did not have a game plan; 2) The opposing teams studied Giannis well and adopted a zone defense scheme as they new Greece would rely on Giannis to dunk or hit rim shots; 3) The NT coach had trouble implementing the pick-n-roll to break the zone defense; 4) The point guards and small forwards had a hard time sinking 3's on the zone defense; 5) The selection of players for the NT was not the best, some players just were not engaged in the WC2019 Tournament, others we're coming to the end of their careers and no longer cared, others were slightly injured, others were a little too young, etc. 6) The Greek players had no respect for their coach; 7) Many bad calls from the refs on Giannis calling too often offensive fouls; and 8) Lack of motivation to win, the Greek Basketball Association was going through in-fighting, which caused discourse amongst players from rival Greek teams. I'm sure there are many other reasons but those were the ones I observed...As many have pointed out, Itoudis, has a better IQ and knows that the other teams will be pushing a zone defense on Giannis but watching the games against Great Britain and against Turkey, Greece has better 3 -point shooters like Dorsey, Agravanis, Moraitis and of course Sloukas and to some extent Papapetrou and Calathes. Will see...
Thank you for your input!
How did you come to this conclusion for 1 and 6?
Watching the last 2 games against Spain, they still struggle in 3-point plays. But Giannis is used more wisely, mainly in the 5 position, he doesn't carry the ball too much and that's a good thing
Great points Augustas. Some thoughts.
First off, setting the foundation: Giannis is a DPOY and a 4x All-Defense. In order to succeed, Greece needs - and has all the tools - to be by far the best defensive team on the tournament. We have a top-3 defensive big man and the best shot blocker in this year’s Euroleague in Papagiannis. One of the best defensive guards in EL history, in Calathes. Papanikolaou had a huge defensive season as well, returning to his standards after struggling with injury the previous season. Thanasis and Kostas Antetokounmpo are defense - first guys, Kalaitzakis, Papapetrou, Larentzakis can also guard. We pretty much have no holes in this area (like our aging legends Bourousis and Printezis, in 2019). Put Giannis in this mix and you might have a defensive juggernaut who can provoke TOs and create transition chances.
Even if we try our best, we cannot space the floor. Only Sloukas and Dorsey are above average shooters (42% and 38% in EL this year), so let’s not be too optimistic about that front. Right now, Giannis might be our 3rd best reliable shooter. But, in 5 on 5 as you said is all about creativity. Giannis and Papagiannis as the roll men (btw I’m not a fan of putting Giannis at the 5), post ups, DHOs, decoy plays from the others. Hell, we have Itoudis now, I can sleep peacefully at night knowing how he conduct things.
As for the medals, it’s too early. And competition wise, this Eurobasket is far more challenging than the 2019 WC. Slovenia will be there, Italy are a whole different animal, Serbia will have the 2 MVPs and an immense pressure to win, France is a force, Lietuva will be a much better team because Domas and Jonas are much better than 2019, Germany is full of talent, Czechs are great, and the list is endless. Maybe Spain with no Rubio has a slight disadvantage but, you know, who can bet against those guys?
We are probably looking into the best Eurobasket ever. Greetings from Athens!
Glad you liked it and thank you for putting time into writing this comment! Can't wait for the EuroBasket myself. Couple points in response: I like and dislike Giannis at the 5: I think he is a great roller and with him, it would be a killer defensive lineup there. BUT.. at the same time, other teams would be putting him in every PnR possible, trying to make him tired, possibly lowering his FG% in the later stages of the game. And I love him more as a free-roaming rim protector on defense. Also, I agree you guys don't have many shooters in the roster. But a lineup for Sloukas, Dorsey, Papapetrou/Papanikolaou, Giannis, Papaggianis does not look that bad for me. Greece obviously have to base their game from the defense, they just can't expect to outscore opponents. I'm not saying medals will be easy, but they are definitely more likely than 2019. Even with other great teams being so stacked this year.
"Italy are a whole different animal" THANK YOU. Finally a Greek who respects us and doesn't believe you'll win 100%. I am very annoyed at the fact that the Orlando Magic won't allow us to have Paolo Banchero for the Eurobasket but a part from him and Leonardo Okeke (who is still a bit too inexperienced), I believe that all our best players are in the squad.
@@giuseppemaggio5894No true basketball fan in Greece disrepects Azzura, man. But you know, there are many idiots and ignorants. You have an amazing team, that proved themselves last summer in Belgrade (hope coach Meo would be there too) so I'm 50-50 on who will emerge in 1st place from our group in Milano. You' ll get Paolo, in the upcoming years I'm sure.
@@SiempreMatias Sacchetti won't be our coach anymore. But I have a lot of trust in Gianmarco Pozzecco. He was a great player and he has done well as a coach in Sassari. He is great in creating an energic and positive environment in the team. Yes I am confident that Paolo will be with us from the next year onwoards and I can't wait to see it
Just dropped 31/10 in 20 min on 11/13 shooting vs spain
yeah but still observed lack of team plays and bad shooting from his teamates
This time is ours. Giannis is far better and Itoudis a coach you can trust. We will get our 3rd european championship.
As long as the others shoot their average from three, we'll be good all tournament long
@@probrosdfa8947 True. I believe the whole team will be ready both mentaly and physicaly...
@@Edgaros if Giannis can do this, he will edge himself right alongside Hakeem as the greatest international player ever
The big difference 2019 and now its the coach ! 2019 Giannis struggled because lack of the systems . Now Greece have one of the best in his bench so prepare to your self to see a different Giannis
The point is a nba map is ass in overseas
@@raseanbenton1456 Lol he literally has over 24 points in each friendly game lol. What are you smoking?
He was in hero mode. U can easily see that he had options to pass the ball in transition but tried to finish each play himself.
who's here after giannis scored 40 against nba mvp?
Well so far so great for Giannis. He's been dominant in this years EuroBasket
3:35 I love how Kalathes is considered a poor 3-point shooter when here in Greece he is concieved as one of the best
He wasn't playing that well for Grecce in 2022
Giannis is more improved and more focused this year. The rest of the players are more or less at the same level with those of 2019. The main difference we are waiting for is the coaching, there is no comparison between Itoudis and the other guy(I don't even remember him) back in 2019. I expect better strategy, better teamwork and better help for Giannis overall, although I would not bet that Greece will win the tournament, I'd wish though.
Excellent analysis, congratulations. I think it is very important for Greece at leaste 2 players to shoot with 38% from 3. I would like to see Giannis setting screens with Sloukas and Dorsey. He is good roller and he will be lob threat for every team.
Thank you! I know it's only 1 game but we are already seeing different version of him individually and the way he's used in team's offense. Let's wait and see more patterns.
@@AugustasSuliauskas you are right! There is a lot of hype for national Greek team and the most important game is the first elimination game.
@@theofiloszisis3818 The hype is crazy around Giannis!
coach Itoudis is one of the best coaches on earth right now, easilly can be head coach in NBA team,
so you are gonna see things that even Bucks are gonna use the next years with Giannis
, Bucks are really lucky cause as the years go by Giannis have to change few things offensivelly to stay in top level for the next 7 years on game.
Agree, there are things and opportunities for Giannis in this team with this coach that Giannis hasn't experienced before. He only had coach Bud in Bucks and being in the Greek NT and experiencing a different coach -especially with a coach like Itoudis is a great add-on to his development.
coach Itoudis can't teach them how to shoot, that's the main problem of this team and still is
One thing about watching Giannis here in Milwaukee every game is he never stops being a student of the beautiful game. You love to see it. He’ll dominate under the right offensive coaching schemes.
Greece was a coachless team in 2019. That’s not the case this year.
man miss the uploads waiting for the reaction vids on the recent signings. great content
The podcast will be back soon!
I would love this as well! Will the podcast also be uploaded to TH-cam?
@@pim0707 Yep, just as usual 👌
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Hey at least now we know these doubts were all shut down after we’ve gotten to watch Giannis score 30+ points in euro league with only 20 minutes a game 🤯
2 days ago giannias dropped 30 on Spain
Awesome channel. Great analysis.
Thank you Konstantinos!
He is a different beast now
Dont matter he is a nba player
we have Itoudis now
2022 eurobasket champ. he'll dominate
Tsalikis 🤝 Çelik
struggles? 31 points vs Spain... he is coming for you
The Greek National team needs perimeter shooters. Dorsey and Sloukas are consistent 3-point shooters but other players must contribute, so to give him space in the paint. For some weird reason, few Greek players are consistent from the 3-point range.
Last time, it was the coaching staff of Greece thay wasn't adaptive with various plays. I think Itoudis and his staff (one of them is a Bucks' coach) will be better prepared.
This will be good time for him to test his mid range.
With Itoudis, I expect to see him in the post much more. Hoping than turnaround jumpshot will be efficient.
Here after the 31 he dropped without a sweat
In 2019 the Greek NT had a coach who wasn't up to the task and had no backing from anyone. Itoudis is really good in setting up teams to open up space. Papagiannis is pretty good in shootng from midrange and Sloukas, Dorsey, Papanikopalou and even Papapetrou or Larentzakis can stretch the floor. I'm still not sure about how well Calathes and Giannis can fit in the same line-up, you're practically begging the opponents to just pack the paint. If only that idiot Mitoglou hadn't tested positive, he would have been a great piece for this puzzle...
It was so weird seeing Sloukas completely without a clue on the court sometimes. And oh yes, Mitoglou would be huge with Giannis. A center in a lineup with him that can shoot & defend?! Hm, where have I seen this already? Haha
Giannis always come back better!
Giannis is a great player but the greek team doesnt base only on him it has other players that have dominate in europe the past few years like kalathis sloukas and papagianinis also this year greek team has a beteer coach than it had 3 years ago.
This aged horribly
Since the court is smaller in FIBA international games and the paint is crowded I believe that Giannis didn't want to risk injury.
Greek here!
We had a great team 4 yesrs ago, the problem was the coach, he didn't know how to use these great players and connect them to giannis. Now with coach itoudis it is going to be different, he is gonna be the key to success
even if you had the best coach in the world, if you have a static team and no reliable shooters, very little can be done
Reading all these "this aged well" comments and STRUGGLING to understand whether you watched the video or just comment based on the title. LITERALLY says in the beginning "LETS REWIND TO 2019", because guess what, he did struggle 3 years ago. Then, if you WATCH THE VIDEO second part is all about how much he's improved and things might be different... Smh these guys see 1 friendly game and then become so smart
National teams is a totally different cup of tea. It has players that gather up from all over the world, some of them do not even participate in the pre-Euro events but they become available right before the official tournament. Besides that, coach starts with a pretty big number of players, excluding one by one until he has the final 12 of them. There is not a lot of time nor the conditions allow for the team to work on their tactics, to see what works and what not.
And the supporting staff is now much better. Giannis AND Papagiannis? Oh mama!
Hello to BasketNews. Two weeks ago I gave you my op on why Giannis did not performed as the Superbasketball star that he is in MundoBasket 2019. After watching Greece play Spain, Poland, Georgia and Turkey in friendlies. I believe that my reasons were proven as legit and I have seen the NT improve like I haven't seen it since 2005. Here are some of my new observation: 1) Greece now has a NT coach who does have a game plan; 2) The NT coach knows fully well that the opposing teams will be boxing Giannis on a zone defense but now the rest of the team is working hard on pick-n-rolls as well as 3 pointers; 3) For the first time since 2006 I see the Greek NT having a hunger to win, players who steel, kamikaze themselves to get a lose ball, benchwarmers with passion and a vigor to win; 4) Players like Kaselakis who at 32 shows more passion than the Bourousis back in 2019. He comes off the bench, plays hard defense and shoots 3s without hesitation; 5) The addition of Dorsey has given the NT a speedy 3 pts shooter since the youthful days of Spanoulis, something Greece did not have in 2019; 6) The climate in the Hellenic Basketball Association is exponentially better than it was when the old farts were presiding over it; 7) All the players respect the Greek NT coach and listen to him, something that did not happen in 2019, which is building team spirit and helps players being more comfortable with the way the play and how the shoot. I like what I see and Giannis will be used to bail the team out should there be low moments in a game. We will see.
Great takeaways from friendlies. Thank you!
The coach of Greece in 2019, had only coached women basketball until then. This year Greece's coach has more experienced and is even the Leader coach Of all Euroleagues coaches.
Biggest reason is that Greece does not have any good shooting guards that can punish the opponent from the 3-point line.
These means that opposing teams can do a zone defense and put their players in the paint, without worrying that someone will score a 3-pointer.
Giannis is always facing 2-3 people when he gets near the basket. No isolation whatsoever.
Defense is tougher and the arc is closer so they're just clumped up in close together making it tougher.
today against spain Giannis showed that he is a real leader!
unfortunately the other team players are not that good and most importantly still bad shooters
I definitely think there are ways so that Giannis can be "utilized" the best way possible. However, I think that getting Giannis to be a screen player for pick n' roll situations is not gonna be one of them because when the guards will have the ball outside the 3 point line, the guy playing defense on them will probably give them space so that he can crowd the "driving" spaces of the court... (I might be wrong though)
He did underperform in 2019, but this was not solely his fault imo. The coach we have for the Eurobasket tournament is considered as top-level in Europe and the roster will have more depth than the previous World Cup. This is a good thing for not overrelying on Giannis, which is beneficial for him and the team. I guess time will tell...
w8ing for the change of your Tittle ...
Because Giannis doesn't get away with running everyone over like he does in the NBA
Who's here after giannis dropped 52 points in the euro league
Giannis has improved 40 points
Giannis' teammates ability to hit 3s will be a huge factor. Calathes (Greece's second best player) not being a good shooter is an issue.
With Coach Itoudis the team will be on a whole other level. Don’t worry.
hope do 2022 eurobasket preview viedo
Yeah, that's in our plans for sure! Just waiting for all the rosters to be clear so keep your eyes peeled 👀
yall gonna find something negative to say about Giannis all the time . At this point all the negative comments can stfu and give this man his flowers
30+ points in the first match this year and win it's not bad
Old Greece coach had done very poor job in general, not only to use Giannis. The new coach is a completely different case. He is the right man to do this job.
Today he played great so we are fine
Im greek and as much as i love Giannis, i dont expect gold this year. Tbh i would be very happy if we make it to the semis and lose there. No shame in that. These guys haven't played together in a long time, add to that the new coach. These things need time to gel
Only the Antetokounmpos haven't been in the team for 3 years. Most of the players know each other quite well since most of them play in the same league and some of them like Sloukas-Kalathes are quite experienced. Even Dorsey who was absent has a full season in Olympiakos. Of course the coach is new to the team. But many elements of this squad are well-known.
You used the right term...."ideas". That simply means ..."coaching" !
this aged insane
in nba the court is bigger and it is easier to get shots up and drive to the basket, in nba you can not play zone defense too
Greece national team has many high class players wppart from Giannis. Also now it has a great coach..so possible Greece will fight for top 3
Fiba is just built different bro the biggest factor is ur wearing u are representing ur country
huh
I think all Greeks have the same comment here I couldn't agree more! The coach of that 2019 team was a joke. Currently there is a different mentality on and off the court. Coach Itoudis seems determined to get the most out of this generation of players (he could also be a coach to visit NBA, he's young, already achieved a lot here)
Some general comments to take into account as well.
I think that time Giannis has put more thought (and sweat) to adjust some parts of his style to FIBA rules and his teammates since this generation has some very talented players. Huge difference can be seen already from the first friendly game against Spain.
Also keep in mind that this time he will play alongside Thanasis and Kostas which is definitely a huge mental boost.
Simple reason:calathes...watched greece national team..calathes huge ballhog
Giannis vs Spain: 31pts 10 reb 3 ast in 20 mins
Isn't it better if the nba applies the same rules from fiba/olympics so the players don't struggle when playing againts other nationalities? Do you remember when USA struggled againts nigeria the last time they played?
Because "It is much easier to score in NBA than in Europe"©Luka Doncic
Giannis didnt also have the fastbreak as much considering that teams in Europe play faster than the nba
Apparently teams just reused the "wall" tactics that Raptors used on him lol.. He's wayy past that sh*t now, don't think Greece will win as think there are at least 3 other teams that are borderline better (Serbia, France, Slovenia, in that order) but everything's possible :)
Grecce without Giannis wouldn't even win a single game, because the supporting cast around Giannis is terrible
Congrats for your analysis , for me in European Basketball any player no matter how fast or strong cant succeed without good percentances on shoot.
I really hope the other greek players will help more by moving way more. 2019 Giannis was mostly a one man offence
The problem with greece was that they were shooting poorly and opponetns would get away with closing the paint and that way dealing with giannis. Chalates is a great pg but im not sure if he fits best with giannis as he doestn really make shots consistently. Sloukas and dorsey will really have to shoot well i feel like.
He got Giannis Rule
I just got his Greek jersey hopefully he does good
This aged well
6 days after this vid posted, giannis dropped 30 and 11 in 20 mins .. maybe hes figured it out
yeah but the rest of the team still bad shooters
20pts in europe = 40 in the nba i see no bad performance from him