This is somewhat true, but they've shown that the crazy switching and close outs defenders have to do increases chance of injury. Post ups actually are the safest play.
@@FlyHenryFly I'm not disputing that. Modern Medicine and Workouts has been better in today's game. Athletes today have all of the advantages, but still get injured more or just as much as players back then. I think someone said it before the issue is wear n tear. These guys play at a high lvl and flashy too. I think by the time they're in the League it's irreversible
11:30 this is what the warriors discovered before everyone else. While the Warriors dynasty is know for their 3s and "changing the game", they didn't go overboard like other teams started to. In those years, there were other teams that caught on to the "3 point avalanche" meta who shot more 3s than the warriors. The difference was that the Warriors didnt actually over compensate. They didnt shoot the most 3s those seasons when they won. They still shot a lot in the mid range and had curry in p&r and back door actions for other players because of the space 3s opened up.
These people aren’t ready for that conversation. Even the teams that were shooting MORE than them were trying to do the same thing. That’s the thing about the 3pt game is that it spreads the floor and allows for a more complex offense that is harder to defend because of the spacing AND the Multiple 3pt Marksmen keeping the defense honest. You can’t cheat too much one way because you’ll get burnt on the back door, can’t cheat too much the other way because they’ll shoot your eyes out. But people just want to simplify it by saying “tHeY sHoOtInG tOo mAnY 3s n rUiNiNg tHe gAMe N nEvEr cAlL tRaVeLs” Like people weren’t saying the same thing 30 years ago “NBA refs never call Jordan for traveling! They’re ruining the game!” and 25 years ago they said “NBA refs never call Iverson for carrying! They’re ruining the game!” There’s always been goobers who don’t really understand the rules or the nuances of the game because they never really played REAL basketball before. MOST people couldn’t even make their high school squad. Junior Varsity. It’s just part of basketball, listening to these goofballs. 😂😂
@@BB-ed4om meta does stand for "Most Effective Tactics Available", and that exploitation of open space and 3 balls can pretty much be defined as the most effective tactic back then bc it won them 3 rings so idk what you on
The thing that made the difference for GSW vs the rest of the league is they had Steph, Klay, Durant, those are 3 All-Time great shooters, no other team in the league had that caliber of personnel from a jump-shooting standpoint, all 3 are top tier shot makers, 2 are All-Time shot creators, and the other heats up faster than almost everyone in league history. That's peculiar personnel, the rest of the league tried to mimic that without that same personnel thus we have 3s out of control now because everyone is still chasing that Steph/Klay/Durant high that can't be replicated. It's sad to watch.
I’m a baseball guy, not a basketball guy, but I love analytics. The same issue exists in both sports: boring things drive winning (walks, strike outs, and home runs in baseball; 3s in basketball). They’re good strategy. The best teams do lots of the boring things. You have to figure out how to balance the game better to incentivize more active and entertaining things. Baseball hasn’t really figured out how to do that, yet, but maybe basketball can.
Same thing with soccer. Every team Plays some sort of possession based pressing system. And it can be extremely boring to watch but very effective. Most games now are just teams passing it side to side at the back until there is an opening or mistake. The game and players in general lost a lot of flair. They are discouraged from taking risky passes, trying tricks, long shots and taking dribbles. It's become a very methodical game.
@ Interesting! I usually think of soccer as being a less analytical game overall, but yeah. I miss the good old days when we ran team strategy on vibes, what we thought might work, or crazy ideas instead of what we know does work.
I just made a comment comparing the three true outcomes in baseball to what’s going on in basketball. Now it’s threes, layups, or turnovers and that’s just about it.
@@almightysosa3007 Would deadening the baseballs decrease three true outcome baseball and increase traditional plays ? Also the dodgers won game five with aggressive base running , base hits and sac flys , so it might not be as dead as we think it is .
People were crying about how Wemby should not shoot that many threes, but it's clear that they are trying to develop his shot - how exactly are you supposed to guard a 7 footer with a developed three shot. Having that option allows him to feint and get away with it. There won't be any guarding the man.
@@adrianli7559 in 2 years we'll have a bunch of third string backup centers in the league who are close to 7* foot and have long arms, just there to annoy wemby. its the same as back in the day every team had a guy to annoy shaq. meta defining. EDIT: Made a crucial typo - i meant close to 7 foot.
I genuinely think this is why Giannis, Jokic, Embiid have had so much joy in and around the paint, they have the whole team waited outside the arc for a 3😂
The real limit is when viewership and interest will start to seriously decline because people will have had enough of games without actual basketball and when they stop buying subscriptions, merchandise, etc, the league will react.
Defending multi-billionaire sports organizations who are connected handshake and handshake with casinos seems like the horrible take. I haven't watched this for a few decades compared to life-long "sports" fan...it is clearly rigged. Referee never get punished like players do.
To be fair, in the Celtics vs Knicks game they were 1 three-pointer away from breaking the record for most in a game. That’s one reason they were just chuckin em up for fun.
@@mikesgotit oh, don’t get me wrong, I agree with his point lol. I just meant that I also thought it wasn’t as representative to use that sequence to show how they are only shooting threes as it was different from what Jimmy was trying to show. But yes, the point absolutely still stands, agreed.
In high school (13-16 years old), I was already in love with the midrange. It was so difficult back then to do a midrange shot because it felt like inside the 3-point line was just too suffocating. Fast forward to now (I'm 37), and I am utterly surprised at how easy it is to get to my midrange spot and just shoot without being contested. Buckets baby! 😂
@@paulburke6096You’re talking like you like outside of space and time. I ran a 4.3 in high school… I’m 46 now son ain’t no more 4.3 left. Athletes have really changed in 50 years. Skill sets get built up over generations so none of you are anything new. For Every Ja Morant… there’s a David Thompson. Watch your tone. We all get old if we’re lucky enough to have a full life.
@@blaque5582 correct me if I'm wrong, a lot of NBA players who have shooting remain longer in the league rather than those who rely on their athleticism. That's why Curry, KD, and Bron (who focused more on shooting now than driving to the basket) have way longer runs compared to their batchmates.
You should do a video on fouls. Because that's how I'm viewing the NBA now. Three ball, foul, foul, commercial, three ball, foul, three ball, commercial, foul, foul, foul
@@shanealuska763ppl legit couldn't guard harden. There's videos showing it was all defense fault. Everyone who copied harden got 0 flack despite him being the modern blueprint for literally every superstar
@@rockysalvatore7352the annoying thing is that all these players are extremely talented and would be able to adjust to proper rules in a couple months. But for whatever reason the nba wants to allow bullshit travels, offensive fouls and moving screens which only make the game less fun to watch
The problem with this is everyone and their grandma are chucking up 3pts. There are simply some players that have 0 business shooting outside the arc. Remember Curry and company that made it popular are ELITE shooters. Often immitated, but never duplicated!!
except that now going for a 3 pointer is a necessity and every scouts is looking for kids good at it. which is making it become even more common than before curry did his magic
Exactly, a lot of people make this mistake. The warriors are a team made up of elite Shooters. Steph is deadly from midrange, although he doesn't take m much. Same went for when they had klay and kd, and the middy goat shaun Livingston
Back in the day, I figured out how to consistently hit 3s in NBA Live and i just played like that whenever my friends came over. I would smoke them every time because i was just making 3 after 3. But I was always under the impression that yeah this is why videogames are videogames and real life is real life. There's no way you can sustain that style of play over an 82 game season plus the playoffs. It was silly videogame shit. That is what's so mindblowing about Steph Curry and the subsequent 3 point revolution. It took what was essentially a videogame strategy and made it viable. Not just viable but the norm. 'Defense wins championships' still rings true, but 3s are what get you over the hump now. Whether or not that's a good thing remains to be seen but it doesn't get spoken of enough how truly transcendent Steph Curry is and continues to be. What he and the Warriors started in 2015 should've never happened. It was unfathomable back in the day. They completely redefined convention within the game of basketball and I dont think there's any other player who can lay claim to that distinction. Jordan is forever the goat. Kobe was an icon. Lebron continues to defy father time. But none of them can say that they altered the very fabric of the game they played. Only Steph. That's a Goat case if I ever did see one
I used to start Damon Jones in NBA Live ‘06. Have Wade bring the ball up and if he didn’t have an easy lane to the basket and if Shaq was covered, swing, swing, swing and find Damon Jones in the corner for 3. Worked every time. Wade would be my leading scorer and Jones would be right behind him. It used to drive my brother crazy because it was DAMON JONES killing him every time. 3 is just more than 2, and as long as you stay over 34% it’s not hurting you. 50% from 2 yields the same results. I think a lot of us figured this out on the games before the NBA did.
Its going to be painful to watch for a while but eventually the equilibrium will be found and the game will evolve. The game wasn't exactly wonderful to watch before Bird, Magic and MJ arrived (at least to modern eyes), but I'm sure if you asked an NBA fan from the 70s about that era they would make similar complaints about it.
this is exactly what i had in mind , steph is literally the only basketball player to actually change the way the world plays basketball, jordan kobe bron are all nba legends for sure they are nba goats no doubt, and even though im a steph fan i would say steph is not an nba goat, he certainly is for basketball as a whole , the only man to change the whole game as we see it today
Great video, as always! I completely agree with your point about the league’s direction being clear. The remedies, on the other hand, seem relatively simple: eliminating the corner three and extending the three-point line. Of course, the challenge lies in determining exactly how far the line should be placed. That said, I have one concern with the overall argument in the video: the idea that the current style of play makes for bad television. Ultimately, this is a commercial decision for the league, and I’m not entirely convinced that younger generations perceive it as poor entertainment or “bad television.” In fact, I think watching a James Harden step-back three or a Stephen Curry pull-up three is just as exciting and inspiring as watching an Anthony Edwards dunk. Moreover, I would argue that the high volume of three-pointers adds a significant element of unpredictability to the game. The narrative of “no lead is safe” exists precisely because of high-volume shooting. For instance, a team on fire can hit consecutive threes and erase a 15- or even 20-point deficit in just a few minutes. This unpredictability only enhances the game’s spectacle. Lastly, I think we need to consider the role of habit formation. Fans and players alike adapt to the style of play, and over time, it becomes the norm. Because of this, I’m not sure there’s a compelling need to change it, as it doesn’t feel unnatural or out of place, especially for the youngest generation within the current basketball culture.
This is an amazing video. The data visualizations are beautiful. The analysis is thorough and insightful. The histogram of shot vs distance overlaid on the court was just, chefs kiss. Keep it, your data analysis and visualization skills are getting better and better.
5:10 As I recall, Boston was 1 three pointer shy from breaking the all time 3-point record in one match, so it’s not so shocking that they were pulling them in every possible way just to break the record
About ten or twelve years ago, there was some college basketball team that broke records for points scored. They had one designated shooter whose only job was to chuck three pointers. Every other player on the team would just play full court pressure defense. Their whole game plan was to either steal the ball in backcourt, contest any opposing three pointer and let the other team get a layup if they wanted it, so they could get the ball back as quickly as possible and get their designated shooter in a position to put up a 3. They ran their entire roster, played all 15 players on that all game full court press, and their designated shooter ended up breaking records scoring like a hundred points in a game. I've wondered for years now if an NBA team might adopt that crazy strategy...and now we see the warriors of this season going 12 deep to play super intense defense with fresh legs... sure has me wondering...
I played on a team with a very similar strategy. Full court press, one designated 3 point shooter, one cutter / slasher / cherry picker and 1 big for rebounds. We won every single game by 60+ points and 3 of us in the team would end up with 45+ points each and the ball movers would have 14 assists.
Well, if you have a 40% 3 point shooter and get him 100 decent looks in a game, he will score 120 points. Steph could hit 100 points in 60-70 shots. it's totally doable.
@ivanchelo the main problem with this strategy at NBA level is I don't think they let you play all 15 guys on the roster in one game. But I'm not sure.
@@bipolarminddroppingsI'm pretty sure Steph would average 120 PPG if he had 60 wide open 3s a game. But firstly, that would be impossible, and secondly, if it was possible, fans would go crazy about it for 2 months, then get tired and never watch the Warriors again in their life. I hate to watch games full of 3pt shots, it's so fucking boring
Kinda agreed on the part where the game is being reduced to something of a 1-dimensional game because of 3pts. Watching highlights is not even exciting anymore because you would just see everyone chucking threes and that would be most of the highlights of the game.
The Olympics was more exciting because FIBA basketball is unpredictable compared to the NBA. Layups, Lobs, Stepback 3s are literally 80% of baskets scored, 15% is Free Throws, 80% of those free throws come from bs foul calls. There's no variety, not even with the incessant commercial breaks.
I think one advantage 3s have over layups that is currently undervalued is that it's not just efficient in terms of points, it's also efficient in terms of effort. A 3 point jump shot is less exhausting than driving to the basket and scoring against multiple defenders in the paint, plus there's less contact involved. Less effort on offense means more effort in defense which indirectly helps the team win by making the opponent score less.
My favorite thing about Jimmy's videos is that rather than saying something from one side of a argument like its obvious, he takes the time to explain everything he says.
To throw in a point about spacing: We have some coaching data from before the NBA where the long shot (defined as beyond 24ft) peaked in 1942 (right before all the guards got drafted and bigs became a thing) at 30.87% of shots. A figure only surpassed in 2017 (31.61%).
This man doesn't miss, and is one of the only youtubers I watch every single video that they upload. Kinda crazy I just finished the three pointer video you made a few months ago and this appeared on my next recommended video lol
i agree wit you but then again the only reason they took so many shots at the end/was even close to the breaking the record was because…they shot a lot of threes to begin with
I think 50/50 would have to be the true sweet spot because defensively there will always at the threat of a three, but never a definite, causing you to have to split defensive schemes to cover either option, leaving every possession to attack the more open look.
The bigger factor imo is everyone wants the 5 man switch lineup. That was the real key to GS. They protected Steph and hid him while he got to go all in on O. Everytime teams got to target him successfully it was ova for GS. Protecting your weakest guy and especially your best offensive threat is the meta imo w the switches not necessarily the 3 spam. That's why the league is so deep now too. Protect your guys energy as much as possible
@@kennn30 exactly. D white was a solid shooter not great before chip and jrus more extreme of that. But we all said chip when he came bc he eliminates so many guards. And kp too perfectly fits the rim protector. Also his offense completes everything
Its crazy how the league only realized the value of a 3 pointer very recently. Even back then playing nba live and 2k in the pre-2010s i realized the best way to win was chucking 3s at over 33% rate to their 50% from 2s, and 3s being heavily defended mean extremely easy 2s. In my head i was like "why dont they shoot more 3s in the actual game then?" I just dismissed it by thinking there are just alot of factors and nuances im not thinking about and it had already naturally evened itself out. Little did i realize it started evening out only recently
They didn't shoot but used the threat to help ease up things. Nineties magic rockets gsw, dantoni Dwight teams dirk by himself Kings peja then 11-14 was all heavy 3 based teams winning
There was a whole stigma about "jump shooting teams." I remember chuck saying a jump shooting team could never win a championship, and most fans agreeing with him. That same year the warriors won in 2015.
@@ogolthorp idk about that. There was a lot more structure in those days and coaches actually mattered. They are nothing but scapegoats at this point. Mark Jackson and Kerr were the first coaches to give the green light on letting the 3 fly like that. Who knows what Reggie, Bird, Ray etc. could’ve done if they shot 15 3’s a game. We will never know cause the game was different.
I do think its worth mentioning that the sequence in the celtics knicks game occurred when boston had tied the NBA record for the most completed 3 pointers in a game. Because the outcome of the game had already been determined, the entire contest actually did devolve into the celtics trying to just get a three - which they failed to do for like a whole quarter. Because of its comedic value, I thought it was actually great TV, and consequentially the perfect anecdote to illustrate what a game looks like when everyone knows the only goal is to hit the nylon from beyond the arc
Teams having a 70% win rate when 3 point attempts account for 46-52% of their total shot attempts has the framing bias of not addressing the fact that teams are shooting more 3s when their 3 point shooters are getting hot streaks.
As a Celtics fan I’ve seen us chuck up tons of threes when we are shooting horrible and still win because 3>2. Game 3 of first round last year against heat we shot like 40 3s against the heat on sub 30% and won because of volume
what a crazy video. That part in which you showing the consecutive 3 point possessions is crazy!!! Makes me wonder if the NBA is still as entertaining as 15 years ago.
I loved meeting Jimmy at the side of highway 3, he crawled out from an underpass and stabbed me in the feet. He then proceeded to scream PORTLAND #1 while walking away. Best fan interaction ever 😊
get some data analyzers. then, paint some lines to make an actual mid-range (ideally in a range where it's least attempted/made & make that the 4 pts range. sounds wild, but it could work.
Hey Jimmy--there's a subtle but important statistics mistake in your analysis of 3 pointers: it is possible for 3 pointers to be on average worse than 2 pointers, but better on the margin. What does that mean? Imagine that in 20% of your possessions, you get a wide open 2 pointer. Those attempts are worth 1.5 points. Then in the other 80% of your possessions, 2 pointer attempts are worth on average 1 point. Finally, imagine 3 point attempts are always worth on average 1.25 points. Now say a team takes 2 point attempts on 30% of their possessions (the 20% where it's wide open + another 10%). Each 3 point attempt will yield 1.25 points, and each 2 point attempt yields 1.33 points. Their total average is 1.275 per attempt. Thus, 3 point attempts are on average worse than 2 point attempts. However, the best thing for the team to do is still to increase their 3 point attempts to 80% and only take the wide open 2 point attempts. This would increase their total average points per attempt from 1.275 to 1.325. Obviously this is an over simplification, but it highlights that the average number of points per attempt is not necessarily indicative of which shot you should be taking more of.
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The NBA is doing with the NFL did a couple years ago. The NFL made it to where throwing the ball and scoring 50 points a game is what they wanted the teams to do. They didn’t care about the fence. The NBA is doing the exact same thing hence why talking discussion of event a four point line may eventually happen. Because they don’t care about Defense. They want 150+ points a game per team.
I was thinking the same, players are getting better and better at 3 pts. If I was the game master, I would pull back the three point line and let players adapt / make it harder. The OG reason why there was a 3 pt line was to reward risky plays. Now 2024, players catch up with skills and practices, its time to make 3 pts harder.
@@nicholastang1217I disagree. Making the three point line further will only make the shot more valuable as it will open up the court even more. I could see it working if you move it back a few inches or a foot at max, but beyond that you're just making the problem worse. And obviously you can't put it that far back or it's gonna break the game in a completely different way
How does one go through mental illness? Most mental illnesses don’t have a cure. The meds help symptoms and therapy helps people understand their illness but that’s about it. For example, schizophrenia is permanent.
@@PraiseGodytthose are technically mental illnesses but they are not a permanent state. Depression, even chronic depression can change in severity dailly. Anxiety can be severe or situational. In other words these conditions can hibernate or go away. Can Jesus heal a psychopath? Asking as a believer. Because some earthly conditions are not curable in any way. One who lacks empathy cannot be made to feel, he or she can only mimic emotion. We live in a broken world, a fallen state. Some things can’t be explained away. Asking Jesus for the impossible doesn’t seem to align with his will.
3 Point play has soo many advantages in its game play. Its efficient, its easier to build plays for and its also reduces wear and injuries on your team. You dont need to build a highly defensive team you need high level defensive and offensive rebounders for when the 3 misses.
@@minovictor It's just an exaggerated visual to demonstrate a point, the numbers are what's most important. Think of it as hyperbole, but in visual form. If you've ever lived in the real world and done any work in either an office or construction, you'd know that all the pretty pictures mean nothing, it's the numbers that matter. Or, once again, if you've ever passed the 7th grade, you'd know, because you're taught not to trust the graphs, they're just visuals to demonstrate a point and never exact.
@@animegopher I’m literally a data analyst, I basically do what jimmy does but in the corporate world😂 A mistake is a mistake. Does it make a huge difference, no. But the fact that all the other bars on that chart and all the graphs are correct shows it’s not just a hyperbole in visual form. He understands that on TH-cam a big percentage of people aren’t here to read and just rely on visuals. The only way you’d have a point here is if jimmys visuals are always off, which they’re not. So when he makes a one off mistake, it’s good to point it out.
That's intentional because the percentage of hitting a midrange is only a little higher than the three. But the points difference between 2 and 3 points is much higher (33%). Therefore, you either shoot a layup (nearly 100% shot) or a three.
@@FilJR99 Exactly. People talk about his past performances on teams that had no system. He’s on a team now that has a set offensive system thats ran by the greatest shooter of all time. He’ll be aiite lol
I feel like bad teams particularly teams like the Hornets know they're gonna lose, so they play fairly degenerate basketball at this point. What they're doing with all of those 3s is not strategy it's gambling. When they Warriors dominated, not only were they making the shot at a consistent clip, but they also had a strong mid-range game as well. Bad teams now just shoot.
This is 100% accurate. Brooklyn under Kenny Atkinson was one of the first to use this strategy. If you're at a massive talent disadvantage, you try to make up for the disparity by firing away from the 3 point line, and hoping a couple of your guys get hot.
I like this channel. Great analysis, great voice, I like the stats, the graphics, the topics, the pace. I've been following this channel for years (during the NBA season/playoffs). This video really did struck a chord. I am a "senior"", born 1971, based in Amsterdam NL and a lifelong basketball fan. Back in those days you relied on videos that came from the US, later (late 1980s) you could get sports TV w/ a box and a decoder... Now - since my daughter got her own apt - I get to watch a lot more NBA. I agree that the game has changed, say the last 10 yrs or so, with more and more and more threepointers, by more and more (skilled) pllayers. Also players are making "crazier" and "crazier" shots from range. But... I like points in the paint. Points in the paint are just more impressive, more exciting and more hussle and "athletic" to me. Alas, the game has changed. Seeing these stats just hammers the point home :(
@@fringe_minoritywont matter bc range is bigger too. Most guys can pull from 2 steps back. It will nerf spot up role guys and make the game hideous bc then the only way for them to look good is right inside this crowding the game again and also diminishing deep threat stars. It'll naturally lower a bit.
Exactly. It’s just maths. The 3 point shot is too valuable to give up. Players in the 80’s would transition to today’s game if they knew how valuable it is.
@@AstroSullyhonest question: do you genuinely think that the 80's coaches and players never did the simple math on shooting % relative to shot value? I thought of this fact when I first got into the NBA. This was twenty years ago. I even had those numbers 50 and 33% in my mind. (I loved math as a kid) Do you think it's possible that at least some of the difference in playstyle has to do with rule & referee changes? Rule changes invariably change strategy: BASIC game theory. It feels like Idiocracy to suggest no one ever considered value vs shooting % until the last ten years. In fact, it's almost so stupid as to be incredible.
Damn, that means Curry’s 3-point record could be broken within just five years of him retiring-and that’s after he completely shattered all the previous records. Crazy!
Maybe BUT a few things. Now that the entire team is taking 3's it means any single player isn't really taking anymore than Curry took in his record breaking year. Also, Harden proved shooting a lot does not mean making a lot. He attempted way more than Curry for several years and never got close to his record. Curry took 11 per game at a 45% efficiency, which is insane for an entire season. All 3 guys attempting more than 10 a game this year (Lamelo, Tatum, Ant) are all way below 45% already after only 10 games and even with Ants VERY hot start which will likely not last he is already well below 45%. SO maybe its breakable sooner than we thought, but I would not underestimate how insane that season was for Curry. You have to average 5 makes a game for all 82 games of the entire season. The only way someone breaks it soon is likely by missing A LOT.
No one is trained like curry. No one has it like him. He's still the greatest there will ever be. You don't see one person making more miserable/excited faces than him.
@@efenili In his first few years, Curry made around 644 threes, with his historic pace kicking off in 2012-13 when he set the single-season record. Today’s players are shooting threes at much higher volumes from their rookie seasons, which puts them in a strong position to pass Curry’s record if they play long enough. The three-point shot is now central to the game, so future players are likely to catch up quickly, taking even more threes than Curry did early in his career.
Basically they discovered the source of Steph's gravity. High 3pm creates gravity, but shooting more of them can create similar gravity in the way of spacing. But we've also seen the remedy for that. Great perimeter defenders and an agile Big who can meet cutters reliably. Put Steph on a team with AD and it's broken all over again. The solution to that is greater 3pt efficiency, and extremely great passing to find the open man. I feel like Basketball has always been a blend of team ball and iso ball, and it still is.
Is just crazy to see what Steph did for what it is today. I remember the time when he suffered with injuries earlier at his career that they were rumors of him retiring the league. Bron & KD we’re the most talked about players between 2011-2015. When Steph won his first ring, I thought that he was great (wich he also deserved a FMVP imo) but only lucky bcs of Kyrie’s & K Love’s injury. Then the next season him,Klay,Dray & co made the league in a new dimension with their 3s. KDs move to the warriors was shocking. But in some ways i can understand why he moved there. And i know it sounds crazy but if Kerr & Steph (with Klay & Dray ofc) worked way earlier together and didn’t suffered with injuries, then he could have more rings than Bron,KD,Kobe,Duncan and maybe MJ.
Without stephs injuries early on gsw might not of had a chance to draft, both draymond and klay, remember Steph was almost traded from gsw, hes injuries were so bad.
25% credit goes to steph, 75% credit goes to adam silvers, no defense, more spacing and this generation of players want less efforts they dont want to spend more tine mastering post moves, midrange, footwork and shit if they can get decent results from a simple move
One stat not brought up here is the 3 Ball opens up waaay more offensive rebounding potential thus dozens of 2nd chances at you guessed it...MORE 3s! As a short guard that loved rebounding, people bad at 3s was huge for me flying all over the court snagging them up or getting tip ins.
This is a huge part of the Celtics gameplan that’s started to be used by other teams, having people run in from the corner for offensive rbs on threes. Derrick white and Pritchard are insane at it and it even led to the buzzer beater against Miami in ECF 2023
Each team gets 20 three point attempts per half. After that any shot is only worth two points. All shots over half court are still worth three. The strategies would get interesting.
I was thinking of something like that. Just set a cap on how many points can be scored by 3pt'ers. If anything make it a rule for the In-Season Tournament games, try it out see how it works, or try it for the All-Star game. I remember back in the day depending on where you went to hoop they would play "All 1s" meaning every bucket counted as 1 pt. You play to 11 or 13, win by 2 or first to 15. So that way 3s were only valuable for those who could make them. An open shooter is still an open shooter, but that open corner 3 is no more valuable than any other more traditional way of scoring. Kept the game fresh, everyone could play their game and everyone could bring something valuable.
The issue has been resolved, and players can now choose to take free throws from the line or the logo. The new mid-range line is worth 2.5. worth two points from the logo
2s becoming more valuable than 3s could just mean that more teams have essentially eliminated the mid range shot. It doesn't necessarily mean that all 2s are more efficient. So no, it doesn't necessarily mean teams will start shooting more 2s and 3s will drop. As long as the shot 5 feet away from a mid range jumper is worth one more point there's no reason to stop taking so many 3s.
They need to push the 3 point shot back 3-5 feet at least, they need to get the shot to be on par with 2's and moving the shot back would open up the floor spacing to improve the value of 2 point shots. It's not good for the league to have teams take 50 3's in a game, people don't want to watch a 3 point shooting contest every game.
Do NBA fans just not watch the entire rest of the game in between the shot attempts? The actions and plays teams use to generate 3s are extremely dynamic and creative. It's not like dudes just dribble to the 3 point line and pull up on every possession.
@zachclarke61 no, it's not. But most of those ball movements and schemes are to get a good or even average look for the 3. For me, that's just not that exciting to watch: not enough variability and lack of defence and subsequently less tough and fun possessions due to too much spacing
You always know how to take stats in the perfect context and understand them enough to actually glean insight from them to make a point instead of using them to further a point you already had. Good work
I don't think the problem is three pointers, it's the lack of defense and the heighten level of foul calling. That's why Golden State games are exciting. They give it on both ends. If the NBA would let them play Defense they could challenge the offense to make for better gameplay.
@@guppy719 Nothing wrong with taking 3s, nothing wrong with taking alot of 3s, but this is ridiculous. Taking a ton of 3s should only be a strategy when you're making them or you're in control of the game's momentum. But this no matter what we need to get up 40 3s is just crazy. It hurts to watch. Now if they allowed for Hand-checking again then I wouldn't mind because defenders would have a counter, but you can't touch then 3ft. from the basket and you can't touch them 30ft from the basket, how tf are you supposed to play Defense when they can travel, carry, double-dribble all while looking over your shoulder for 1 of 3 illegal screens you'll get hit with in this one possession. Just for your team to brick a wild 25ft'er and do it all over again.
@@09lowkeythis just lets me know you don’t actually watch games lol😂. Players hand check all the time and refs rarely call it. Besides, hand checking doesn’t address the spacing issue that defenses face when playing against threes. How is hand checking gonna stop corner three point shooters? It doesn’t. Hand checking simply allows for easier 1v1 defense and that’s it
@@gabrielnieves9974 This just lets me know you don't understand the nuances of the game in terms of what is allowed vs what is tolerated by the officials. You clearly never played, anyone who's played at least High School basketball will tell you there's a definitive difference between when defenders can use their hands vs when they can't. You really think refs call every single foul and violation that happens in a game? They don't, and there's a very good reason why, any player/coach would understand this, but you don't. With that said, your opinion is void, you don't have the required knowledge/experience with the game for me to take your opinion/outlook seriously.
You might say it's not good television or not pretty to watch teams chuck a bunch of threes but I have to disagree. My Chicago Bulls went from being one of the worse 3 point shooting teams last year to attempting the second most threes a game this season and I have to say I really enjoy watching the games, it requires a special level of ball movement to generate that many open looks and it is truly beautiful basketball. last year the bulls had a midrange heavy offence that was really stagnant; this year with all these three attempts the ball is flying all over the court, players are cutting at every opportunity, it's a much prettier game and I really do love it.
Thank you, there isn't nearly enough talk about ball movement in this discussion. As much as people want to minimize games to "just a 3pt contest" the looks are set up in a way more interesting way than the middy iso 1on1 games with 8 guys standing around
A thought; - 3s were the highest awarded because the distance to the basket was the difficult part - Now, the skill set of all players from 1-5 makes the “difficulty” much less so - There’s also the anatomical evolution of NBA players being now around 4” taller, longer wingspan AND being more athletic since the late 1940s. So aside from the triple becoming a more acquired skill set, it also lets you space yourself from bigger, more athletic frames It seems to me the most difficult section of the floor is the midrange because the space hasn’t grown BUT the athlete has AND they’re way more agile. They can maneuver and cover space so much easier. - Solution: Make all or sections of the midrange a 4 point area. The skill of shooting has been acquired by most of the players. So the distance isn’t the hardest part now. The hardest part is scoring closer to the rim where these athletic big frames can contest. This will make teams have to run sets that are NOT 3s Idk, just a thought
Basketball is always been a shooting game, the differrent is they did it in the mid range before and now they did it in the 3pt range, just watch 90' games it's a lot catch and shot in midrange
thats not true lol the jump shot wasnt even utilized in the beginning it was who has the biggest man and can dominate below the rim and even rn tis season where we are seeing the most 3p shooting one of the best teams is with a big man nikola jokic and his team is shooting the least amount of threes while having the best percentage right behind the cavs but the jump shot when it was eventually implemented into basketball was just a thing they used to make space for the big man so the defense had to spread out and not compact the paint so the big an had more space to work ... and it all boils down to the fact that the highest percentage shot in the sport is right under the rim
Eh the difference is that midrange is really a lot of places on the floor. Watch old footage and you realize that they are running sets and different depths while today its all at the same level to take advantage of the 3 point line.
amazing video as usual. However, I have to say that I don't find 3 point shooting bad for tv. I just love seeing this guys doing something that I know I'm completely unable to do. I just find it beautiful
Ratings aren’t ever gonna be a good way to look at that. A bunch of fans don’t want to pay for all of the subscriptions that they want you to pay for. Easier to hop on pirating websites where you can watch for free. Or just watch highlights.
It's all gonna balance out, the sport is evolving, the strategies, the conditioning, the competition. It's gonna continously shift like it always has, balanced teams, monster defense, sharpshooter teams, different chemistry. It's still the same sport we're just seeing it in a larger scale.
You CAN'T use the Celtics vs the Knicks as an example because the Celtics were going for the record of most 3pts made on opening night but just kept missing them and couldn't get the last one they needed
Assuming that the Celtics' number one priority was winning the game and all other goals were subservient to that end... then no, it's entirely fair to use Celtics / Knicks as an example. If Boston prioritized breaking an obscure record over winning or at all diminished their chances of winning, then the NBA (and its competitive culture) has serious problems. Obviously we should assume the Celtics wanted to win though. Therefore there is nothing wrong with using this game as an example.
There are three factors in winning basketball. One is 3-point attempt rate. The second is % of shots taken within 3 feet of the rim (layups and dunks.) And the third is free-throw rate. The higher your team's combined total in those three stats, the more you are setting yourself up to win by taking the highest-value shots. When I wrote about the NBA, I had a stat I called D'Antoni Index, which is those three numbers added up, then compared against the league average total to adjust for trends and eras.
Jxmy has been on a crazy long streak of great videos, I'm talking about years of nothing but great videos, this can't be normal considering all his videos are based on one main topic, Basketball 🤣 The guy has to be part of the illuminati or something 😂
I mean Kenny be dropping like 2 videos a day and he’s got great videos, not content, jimmy been snapping since Covid tbh, he’s got better production than the other guys that’s for sure, glad idk how dude looks too
Your statistics miss the fact that there are offensive rebounds. Lets compare 2 options. A: You take 3 3-pointer and make 6 points, you have a chance to get the one offensive Rebound. B: You take 3 2 -pointer and make 6 points, you dont.
Just wanna say the hook beginning was great. I dont watch NBA but you had me intrested. Also you have a good voice for creepypasta if this doesn't work out.
I think something happened in the past few seasons where coaches realized that the value trade off calculations for 3pt vs 2pt were wrong, because they only factored in the expected point value from taking a 3 vs taking a 2. The reality is that a simplified offense that prefers to miss a 3 than to attempt to get an advantage for a 2pt jumper/layup has the opportunity (when tuned) to also reduce turnovers, reduce injury, and allow for more easy to fill roster positions (you can bring a guy in who can hardly do anything, but can spot up for 3 at 38%+). When calculating the trade off, the 2x3pters = 3x2pters is wrong, because the 3pters bring more value than the equation would suggest. You can run simpler actions, have more space to do them, lower coaching skill gap by simplifying the game, and now dedicate more effort on the defensive side of the ball, because most guys are not doing anything on offense most plays now. Boston has exercised this to the point of absurdity to where they’re not really fun to watch, because it’s not really great basketball.
Maybe I’m biased as a Celtics fan but we are great to watch, we have the best ball movement in the NBA. If you appreciate a team that passes well and defends hard, the Celtics are the team for you
DeMar DeRozan is singlehandedly keeping that 2 point jumpshot percentage up by himself!
And it's so nice to watch
His jumpshot is so beautiful to watch 😍😍😍
Midrange needs to absolutely be the shot in basketball, but the fact that it isn’t makes me sad.
Him curry n kd😂
@@falcon1378People are just better at 3 pointers by statistics but there are definitely some people who should not shoot that far at all 😂
"Grandpa what happened?"
"Let me tell you the story of a man named Wardell..."
Or as Nike once called him, "Steven"
@@blondegirlsezthis8798 Worse, "Stevon"
@@manchesterunitedno7 or worse, as the French called him "The Devil that is named Curry" 😂
@@manchesterunitedno7ah yes stevon curry, truly a fumble by nike
This reminds me of a reporter calling Steph, Wardell and Steph look so surprise😂 His probably not used to it
Also on the side note, shooting 3 is less physical than attacking the rim, meaning players are less likely to get injuries.
This is somewhat true, but they've shown that the crazy switching and close outs defenders have to do increases chance of injury. Post ups actually are the safest play.
Except players are getting hurt more than before so….
In theory yeah but in reality they're getting more injured now more than ever
@@jeremybrown9611 modern medicine its way easier to detect injuries compared to back then they just gave you a bunch of drugs and played
@@FlyHenryFly I'm not disputing that. Modern Medicine and Workouts has been better in today's game. Athletes today have all of the advantages, but still get injured more or just as much as players back then. I think someone said it before the issue is wear n tear. These guys play at a high lvl and flashy too. I think by the time they're in the League it's irreversible
Lamelo be chucking those things😭😭
And making em
I saw someone comment that he plays like theres 10000 baddies in the arena😂😂😂
he's a future mvp
Ay, when you're shooting 38 percent from 3 and 30 ppg, it's warranted.
@@hatersbhating 😂
11:30 this is what the warriors discovered before everyone else. While the Warriors dynasty is know for their 3s and "changing the game", they didn't go overboard like other teams started to. In those years, there were other teams that caught on to the "3 point avalanche" meta who shot more 3s than the warriors. The difference was that the Warriors didnt actually over compensate. They didnt shoot the most 3s those seasons when they won. They still shot a lot in the mid range and had curry in p&r and back door actions for other players because of the space 3s opened up.
You called the play style a “meta”. 😂like it’s a video game or a self referential piece of media.
@@BB-ed4om and somehow everything I said is still correct. You tried to sound smart and you failed. try again
These people aren’t ready for that conversation. Even the teams that were shooting MORE than them were trying to do the same thing. That’s the thing about the 3pt game is that it spreads the floor and allows for a more complex offense that is harder to defend because of the spacing AND the Multiple 3pt Marksmen keeping the defense honest. You can’t cheat too much one way because you’ll get burnt on the back door, can’t cheat too much the other way because they’ll shoot your eyes out.
But people just want to simplify it by saying “tHeY sHoOtInG tOo mAnY 3s n rUiNiNg tHe gAMe N nEvEr cAlL tRaVeLs”
Like people weren’t saying the same thing 30 years ago “NBA refs never call Jordan for traveling! They’re ruining the game!” and 25 years ago they said “NBA refs never call Iverson for carrying! They’re ruining the game!” There’s always been goobers who don’t really understand the rules or the nuances of the game because they never really played REAL basketball before. MOST people couldn’t even make their high school squad. Junior Varsity. It’s just part of basketball, listening to these goofballs. 😂😂
@@BB-ed4om meta does stand for "Most Effective Tactics Available", and that exploitation of open space and 3 balls can pretty much be defined as the most effective tactic back then bc it won them 3 rings so idk what you on
The thing that made the difference for GSW vs the rest of the league is they had Steph, Klay, Durant, those are 3 All-Time great shooters, no other team in the league had that caliber of personnel from a jump-shooting standpoint, all 3 are top tier shot makers, 2 are All-Time shot creators, and the other heats up faster than almost everyone in league history. That's peculiar personnel, the rest of the league tried to mimic that without that same personnel thus we have 3s out of control now because everyone is still chasing that Steph/Klay/Durant high that can't be replicated. It's sad to watch.
I’m a baseball guy, not a basketball guy, but I love analytics. The same issue exists in both sports: boring things drive winning (walks, strike outs, and home runs in baseball; 3s in basketball). They’re good strategy. The best teams do lots of the boring things. You have to figure out how to balance the game better to incentivize more active and entertaining things. Baseball hasn’t really figured out how to do that, yet, but maybe basketball can.
Baseball is gay
Same thing with soccer. Every team Plays some sort of possession based pressing system. And it can be extremely boring to watch but very effective. Most games now are just teams passing it side to side at the back until there is an opening or mistake.
The game and players in general lost a lot of flair. They are discouraged from taking risky passes, trying tricks, long shots and taking dribbles. It's become a very methodical game.
@ Interesting! I usually think of soccer as being a less analytical game overall, but yeah. I miss the good old days when we ran team strategy on vibes, what we thought might work, or crazy ideas instead of what we know does work.
I just made a comment comparing the three true outcomes in baseball to what’s going on in basketball. Now it’s threes, layups, or turnovers and that’s just about it.
@@almightysosa3007 Would deadening the baseballs decrease three true outcome baseball and increase traditional plays ? Also the dodgers won game five with aggressive base running , base hits and sac flys , so it might not be as dead as we think it is .
Wemby just hit 8 threes, the league is so cooked 😭
People were crying about how Wemby should not shoot that many threes, but it's clear that they are trying to develop his shot - how exactly are you supposed to guard a 7 footer with a developed three shot. Having that option allows him to feint and get away with it. There won't be any guarding the man.
@@adrianli7559zaza pachulia type defence is the only way
it's only one game
@@adrianli7559 in 2 years we'll have a bunch of third string backup centers in the league who are close to 7* foot and have long arms, just there to annoy wemby.
its the same as back in the day every team had a guy to annoy shaq. meta defining.
EDIT: Made a crucial typo - i meant close to 7 foot.
Yup, totally. No other team has any good players, so they can't compete. 🙄
I genuinely think this is why Giannis, Jokic, Embiid have had so much joy in and around the paint, they have the whole team waited outside the arc for a 3😂
theyre 7 foot thats why
It’s not a question, more spacing means easier post offense
Both teams every possession
But jokic ain’t having any shooter on his team 😂
@@天然珊瑚Define “a few” because imma come back to check in then
The real limit is when viewership and interest will start to seriously decline because people will have had enough of games without actual basketball and when they stop buying subscriptions, merchandise, etc, the league will react.
50 years of the same football and its only more popular horrible take
@@lax857but football more interesting can happen instead of just watch niggas chuck it up
Defending multi-billionaire sports organizations who are connected handshake and handshake with casinos seems like the horrible take. I haven't watched this for a few decades compared to life-long "sports" fan...it is clearly rigged. Referee never get punished like players do.
@@lax857 wow you're stupid. The NFL is a great product. The 3 bomb NBA is an obviously shite product.
“Actual basketball” lmao stfu dude
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Its snowing up here in canada lol.
cold rainy night, got my food ready, 🍃 a lil summ, and now ready to chill and watch this jxmy video. life is perf
To be fair, in the Celtics vs Knicks game they were 1 three-pointer away from breaking the record for most in a game. That’s one reason they were just chuckin em up for fun.
Literally about to comment this. That situation was unique as they wanted the record. The fans were cheering them on for it lol
@@mikesgotit oh, don’t get me wrong, I agree with his point lol. I just meant that I also thought it wasn’t as representative to use that sequence to show how they are only shooting threes as it was different from what Jimmy was trying to show.
But yes, the point absolutely still stands, agreed.
@@mikesgotitnot rly, they tied the record which means it’s happened before so like
Yeah but they missed all 8. They took 61 threes that game. That's pathetic
...they almost broke the record BECAUSE they were chucking them up
In high school (13-16 years old), I was already in love with the midrange. It was so difficult back then to do a midrange shot because it felt like inside the 3-point line was just too suffocating. Fast forward to now (I'm 37), and I am utterly surprised at how easy it is to get to my midrange spot and just shoot without being contested. Buckets baby! 😂
Facts my man I wish I knew how to play in high school😂 the turn around fade is unstoppable at the rec!
That likely has more to do with being a 37 year old man in a rec league, where Icy Hot and sick kids has more to do with defensive intensity.
Not exactly a great comparison. Slow ass old dudes who don’t know how to shoot vs prime athletes that have elite shooting ability.
@@paulburke6096You’re talking like you like outside of space and time. I ran a 4.3 in high school… I’m 46 now son ain’t no more 4.3 left. Athletes have really changed in 50 years. Skill sets get built up over generations so none of you are anything new. For Every Ja Morant… there’s a David Thompson. Watch your tone. We all get old if we’re lucky enough to have a full life.
@@blaque5582 correct me if I'm wrong, a lot of NBA players who have shooting remain longer in the league rather than those who rely on their athleticism. That's why Curry, KD, and Bron (who focused more on shooting now than driving to the basket) have way longer runs compared to their batchmates.
You should do a video on fouls. Because that's how I'm viewing the NBA now.
Three ball, foul, foul, commercial, three ball, foul, three ball, commercial, foul, foul, foul
NBA has turned into the Harlem globetrotters. Half court shot, dribble, dribble, 3, foul, 3, dribble. Tell me I'm wrong
@@shanealuska763ppl legit couldn't guard harden. There's videos showing it was all defense fault. Everyone who copied harden got 0 flack despite him being the modern blueprint for literally every superstar
Moving screens and shuffling feet and offense fouls are my problems
@@rockysalvatore7352the annoying thing is that all these players are extremely talented and would be able to adjust to proper rules in a couple months. But for whatever reason the nba wants to allow bullshit travels, offensive fouls and moving screens which only make the game less fun to watch
for real.
It's all downstream from removing hand checking. Bring it back, and balance will be restored.
100%
The problem with this is everyone and their grandma are chucking up 3pts. There are simply some players that have 0 business shooting outside the arc. Remember Curry and company that made it popular are ELITE shooters. Often immitated, but never duplicated!!
3 points is too valuable. You dont need to be an elite shooter anymore. 35% for 3 is just better than
@@froyocrewThis. Even if you're not elite, if you can land 50% statistically it's simply more efficient.
except that now going for a 3 pointer is a necessity and every scouts is looking for kids good at it. which is making it become even more common than before curry did his magic
@@silentKeys20And not just scoring efficiency. Less energy expended, less injuries...
Exactly, a lot of people make this mistake. The warriors are a team made up of elite Shooters. Steph is deadly from midrange, although he doesn't take m much. Same went for when they had klay and kd, and the middy goat shaun Livingston
Back in the day, I figured out how to consistently hit 3s in NBA Live and i just played like that whenever my friends came over. I would smoke them every time because i was just making 3 after 3. But I was always under the impression that yeah this is why videogames are videogames and real life is real life. There's no way you can sustain that style of play over an 82 game season plus the playoffs. It was silly videogame shit. That is what's so mindblowing about Steph Curry and the subsequent 3 point revolution. It took what was essentially a videogame strategy and made it viable. Not just viable but the norm. 'Defense wins championships' still rings true, but 3s are what get you over the hump now. Whether or not that's a good thing remains to be seen but it doesn't get spoken of enough how truly transcendent Steph Curry is and continues to be. What he and the Warriors started in 2015 should've never happened. It was unfathomable back in the day. They completely redefined convention within the game of basketball and I dont think there's any other player who can lay claim to that distinction. Jordan is forever the goat. Kobe was an icon. Lebron continues to defy father time. But none of them can say that they altered the very fabric of the game they played. Only Steph. That's a Goat case if I ever did see one
I used to start Damon Jones in NBA Live ‘06. Have Wade bring the ball up and if he didn’t have an easy lane to the basket and if Shaq was covered, swing, swing, swing and find Damon Jones in the corner for 3. Worked every time. Wade would be my leading scorer and Jones would be right behind him. It used to drive my brother crazy because it was DAMON JONES killing him every time. 3 is just more than 2, and as long as you stay over 34% it’s not hurting you. 50% from 2 yields the same results. I think a lot of us figured this out on the games before the NBA did.
LeBron is 39 he just seems much older because he’s been in the league since 2003-2004. Literally half of his life 😂
George Mikan did this for layups tbh
Its going to be painful to watch for a while but eventually the equilibrium will be found and the game will evolve. The game wasn't exactly wonderful to watch before Bird, Magic and MJ arrived (at least to modern eyes), but I'm sure if you asked an NBA fan from the 70s about that era they would make similar complaints about it.
this is exactly what i had in mind , steph is literally the only basketball player to actually change the way the world plays basketball, jordan kobe bron are all nba legends for sure they are nba goats no doubt, and even though im a steph fan i would say steph is not an nba goat, he certainly is for basketball as a whole , the only man to change the whole game as we see it today
Great video, as always! I completely agree with your point about the league’s direction being clear. The remedies, on the other hand, seem relatively simple: eliminating the corner three and extending the three-point line. Of course, the challenge lies in determining exactly how far the line should be placed.
That said, I have one concern with the overall argument in the video: the idea that the current style of play makes for bad television. Ultimately, this is a commercial decision for the league, and I’m not entirely convinced that younger generations perceive it as poor entertainment or “bad television.” In fact, I think watching a James Harden step-back three or a Stephen Curry pull-up three is just as exciting and inspiring as watching an Anthony Edwards dunk.
Moreover, I would argue that the high volume of three-pointers adds a significant element of unpredictability to the game. The narrative of “no lead is safe” exists precisely because of high-volume shooting. For instance, a team on fire can hit consecutive threes and erase a 15- or even 20-point deficit in just a few minutes. This unpredictability only enhances the game’s spectacle.
Lastly, I think we need to consider the role of habit formation. Fans and players alike adapt to the style of play, and over time, it becomes the norm. Because of this, I’m not sure there’s a compelling need to change it, as it doesn’t feel unnatural or out of place, especially for the youngest generation within the current basketball culture.
This is an amazing video. The data visualizations are beautiful. The analysis is thorough and insightful. The histogram of shot vs distance overlaid on the court was just, chefs kiss. Keep it, your data analysis and visualization skills are getting better and better.
lmfao
the glazing is wild, his analysis is the most surface level shit ever, all he has is pretty graphics and random nitpicked stats
@@bigredracecar27ok, and who else is doing that and reaching 1.5mil+ viewers? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
5:10 As I recall, Boston was 1 three pointer shy from breaking the all time 3-point record in one match, so it’s not so shocking that they were pulling them in every possible way just to break the record
Ya they missed like the last 10 threes
YEA NOT GETTING THE RECORD WAS THE MOST BOSTON THING THEY COULD'VE DONE💯
@@waff6ixas a Boston fan I agree 😂😂
Literally was about to say the same thing don’t expose him too bad 😂😂😂😂
I would agree for the knicks game, but they didn’t have to do it for the hornets game
7:06 Saddam Hussein hiding spot?
Now I cannot unsee it 💀
@ hahaha sorry brother
LMAOOOOO
About ten or twelve years ago, there was some college basketball team that broke records for points scored. They had one designated shooter whose only job was to chuck three pointers. Every other player on the team would just play full court pressure defense. Their whole game plan was to either steal the ball in backcourt, contest any opposing three pointer and let the other team get a layup if they wanted it, so they could get the ball back as quickly as possible and get their designated shooter in a position to put up a 3. They ran their entire roster, played all 15 players on that all game full court press, and their designated shooter ended up breaking records scoring like a hundred points in a game. I've wondered for years now if an NBA team might adopt that crazy strategy...and now we see the warriors of this season going 12 deep to play super intense defense with fresh legs... sure has me wondering...
I played on a team with a very similar strategy. Full court press, one designated 3 point shooter, one cutter / slasher / cherry picker and 1 big for rebounds. We won every single game by 60+ points and 3 of us in the team would end up with 45+ points each and the ball movers would have 14 assists.
Well, if you have a 40% 3 point shooter and get him 100 decent looks in a game, he will score 120 points. Steph could hit 100 points in 60-70 shots. it's totally doable.
@ivanchelo the main problem with this strategy at NBA level is I don't think they let you play all 15 guys on the roster in one game. But I'm not sure.
@@bipolarminddroppingsI'm pretty sure Steph would average 120 PPG if he had 60 wide open 3s a game.
But firstly, that would be impossible, and secondly, if it was possible, fans would go crazy about it for 2 months, then get tired and never watch the Warriors again in their life.
I hate to watch games full of 3pt shots, it's so fucking boring
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Props to this guy for coaching the Lakers while still pumping out these videos.
please explain the joke for us thanks
Kinda agreed on the part where the game is being reduced to something of a 1-dimensional game because of 3pts. Watching highlights is not even exciting anymore because you would just see everyone chucking threes and that would be most of the highlights of the game.
You obviously don’t watch ANY basketball - let alone highlights.
@ericburton1244 because it sucks now.
@@ericburton1244 Every year I try to give it a chance. It does not take many games for me to be bored by the glorified shoot around.
@ yeah you’re definitely not watching ANY games. You saw highlights from the all star game and you talk shit.
The Olympics was more exciting because FIBA basketball is unpredictable compared to the NBA. Layups, Lobs, Stepback 3s are literally 80% of baskets scored, 15% is Free Throws, 80% of those free throws come from bs foul calls. There's no variety, not even with the incessant commercial breaks.
I think one advantage 3s have over layups that is currently undervalued is that it's not just efficient in terms of points, it's also efficient in terms of effort.
A 3 point jump shot is less exhausting than driving to the basket and scoring against multiple defenders in the paint, plus there's less contact involved. Less effort on offense means more effort in defense which indirectly helps the team win by making the opponent score less.
Depends on who you are.
My favorite thing about Jimmy's videos is that rather than saying something from one side of a argument like its obvious, he takes the time to explain everything he says.
Steph top 5 all time when its all said and done
has to be
I like Steph but that's insane unless he wins more rings and fmvps. He's barely top 10.
@@shrayesraman5192 rage bait used to be believable
Oh definitely
@@shrayesraman5192bro said barely top 10 😂 ain't no way bro ,
To throw in a point about spacing:
We have some coaching data from before the NBA where the long shot (defined as beyond 24ft) peaked in 1942 (right before all the guards got drafted and bigs became a thing) at 30.87% of shots. A figure only surpassed in 2017 (31.61%).
This man doesn't miss, and is one of the only youtubers I watch every single video that they upload.
Kinda crazy I just finished the three pointer video you made a few months ago and this appeared on my next recommended video lol
That celtics prediction a couple years ago was an AIR BALL....
Using the celtics in your second example at 5:10 is a bit disingenuous since they were about to break a record on threes made lol
Was about to comment this
this girl is a genius
i agree wit you but then again the only reason they took so many shots at the end/was even close to the breaking the record was because…they shot a lot of threes to begin with
@@freemines209can’t lie she’s a genius
I think 50/50 would have to be the true sweet spot because defensively there will always at the threat of a three, but never a definite, causing you to have to split defensive schemes to cover either option, leaving every possession to attack the more open look.
The bigger factor imo is everyone wants the 5 man switch lineup. That was the real key to GS. They protected Steph and hid him while he got to go all in on O. Everytime teams got to target him successfully it was ova for GS.
Protecting your weakest guy and especially your best offensive threat is the meta imo w the switches not necessarily the 3 spam.
That's why the league is so deep now too. Protect your guys energy as much as possible
@@rockysalvatore7352 And that's why Boston is so elite.
@@kennn30 exactly. D white was a solid shooter not great before chip and jrus more extreme of that. But we all said chip when he came bc he eliminates so many guards. And kp too perfectly fits the rim protector. Also his offense completes everything
Its crazy how the league only realized the value of a 3 pointer very recently. Even back then playing nba live and 2k in the pre-2010s i realized the best way to win was chucking 3s at over 33% rate to their 50% from 2s, and 3s being heavily defended mean extremely easy 2s. In my head i was like "why dont they shoot more 3s in the actual game then?" I just dismissed it by thinking there are just alot of factors and nuances im not thinking about and it had already naturally evened itself out. Little did i realize it started evening out only recently
They didn't shoot but used the threat to help ease up things. Nineties magic rockets gsw, dantoni Dwight teams dirk by himself Kings peja then 11-14 was all heavy 3 based teams winning
There was a whole stigma about "jump shooting teams." I remember chuck saying a jump shooting team could never win a championship, and most fans agreeing with him. That same year the warriors won in 2015.
You are a genius
The real answer is people just weren’t good enough at shooting 3s until they saw people like Curry show up and prove such accuracy is possible.
@@ogolthorp idk about that. There was a lot more structure in those days and coaches actually mattered. They are nothing but scapegoats at this point. Mark Jackson and Kerr were the first coaches to give the green light on letting the 3 fly like that. Who knows what Reggie, Bird, Ray etc. could’ve done if they shot 15 3’s a game. We will never know cause the game was different.
I do think its worth mentioning that the sequence in the celtics knicks game occurred when boston had tied the NBA record for the most completed 3 pointers in a game. Because the outcome of the game had already been determined, the entire contest actually did devolve into the celtics trying to just get a three - which they failed to do for like a whole quarter. Because of its comedic value, I thought it was actually great TV, and consequentially the perfect anecdote to illustrate what a game looks like when everyone knows the only goal is to hit the nylon from beyond the arc
Teams having a 70% win rate when 3 point attempts account for 46-52% of their total shot attempts has the framing bias of not addressing the fact that teams are shooting more 3s when their 3 point shooters are getting hot streaks.
If they're shooting well, they're gonna be taking more 3s so there's naturally a correlation between 3 point shooting and winning.
Nothing wrong with taking a ton of 3s when you're making them. But this whole 40+ 3pt attempts when you're shooting
Statistically if one player scores 37 points in a quarter, they win 100 % of the time. The answer? Forcefeed 1 guy all day ❌
As a Celtics fan I’ve seen us chuck up tons of threes when we are shooting horrible and still win because 3>2. Game 3 of first round last year against heat we shot like 40 3s against the heat on sub 30% and won because of volume
4:50 juat for context the only reason why boston was chucking up 3s there was to break the single game record
Yeah pretty annoying he didn't mention that to be dramatic
So what about the other teams? No? It's pointless to mention it then right?
A team chucking up 3s because they naturally got close to breaking the record proves his point
It was weird not to metion that
@@mateusmarinho6941 he's always been low quality baiter
what a crazy video. That part in which you showing the consecutive 3 point possessions is crazy!!! Makes me wonder if the NBA is still as entertaining as 15 years ago.
I loved meeting Jimmy at the side of highway 3, he crawled out from an underpass and stabbed me in the feet. He then proceeded to scream PORTLAND #1 while walking away. Best fan interaction ever 😊
3:03 Oh man I can smell the Flight glaze reaction coming 😂this one gonna be generational 😭
Based off the intro alone, we are finally getting players trying to raise the standard. 3 pointers made should be a lot higher than it is.
14:37 Jimmy says shooting threes may not be pretty then immediately shows Devin Booker shooting a 3 😂
His shot is awesome, I love booker!
Wouldn’t be surprised if they introduced a 4-Point Line at the start of the 2030s Era
Do you want to make it worse? Because that will make it worse.
4 point line but make it where you dunk instead to encourage going to the rim
get some data analyzers. then, paint some lines to make an actual mid-range (ideally in a range where it's least attempted/made & make that the 4 pts range. sounds wild, but it could work.
@@te3jthank god you don’t run/organize the nba
The Philippine Basketball Association HAHAHAHHA. but they are so bad compare to NBA so it’s pretty useless
Hey Jimmy--there's a subtle but important statistics mistake in your analysis of 3 pointers: it is possible for 3 pointers to be on average worse than 2 pointers, but better on the margin. What does that mean?
Imagine that in 20% of your possessions, you get a wide open 2 pointer. Those attempts are worth 1.5 points.
Then in the other 80% of your possessions, 2 pointer attempts are worth on average 1 point.
Finally, imagine 3 point attempts are always worth on average 1.25 points.
Now say a team takes 2 point attempts on 30% of their possessions (the 20% where it's wide open + another 10%). Each 3 point attempt will yield 1.25 points, and each 2 point attempt yields 1.33 points. Their total average is 1.275 per attempt. Thus, 3 point attempts are on average worse than 2 point attempts. However, the best thing for the team to do is still to increase their 3 point attempts to 80% and only take the wide open 2 point attempts. This would increase their total average points per attempt from 1.275 to 1.325.
Obviously this is an over simplification, but it highlights that the average number of points per attempt is not necessarily indicative of which shot you should be taking more of.
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I wondered why I don't like watching the Celtics because their games felt boring and this guy at 13:20 explains it perfectly.
Yup. This is unwatchable.
Same lol. GSW a three point shooting team as well but I didn't experience being bored watching their games.
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The NBA is doing with the NFL did a couple years ago. The NFL made it to where throwing the ball and scoring 50 points a game is what they wanted the teams to do. They didn’t care about the fence. The NBA is doing the exact same thing hence why talking discussion of event a four point line may eventually happen. Because they don’t care about Defense. They want 150+ points a game per team.
And what happened in the NFL eventually ?
And players don't WANT TO play defense anymore..I blame the players as much as the league
I was thinking the same, players are getting better and better at 3 pts. If I was the game master, I would pull back the three point line and let players adapt / make it harder. The OG reason why there was a 3 pt line was to reward risky plays. Now 2024, players catch up with skills and practices, its time to make 3 pts harder.
@@Sky_Blazewhat game are you watching? I see players hustling on defense all the time. Warriors, celtics, wolves all great defensive teams
@@nicholastang1217I disagree. Making the three point line further will only make the shot more valuable as it will open up the court even more. I could see it working if you move it back a few inches or a foot at max, but beyond that you're just making the problem worse. And obviously you can't put it that far back or it's gonna break the game in a completely different way
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Jesus heals depression and anxiety
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How does one go through mental illness? Most mental illnesses don’t have a cure. The meds help symptoms and therapy helps people understand their illness but that’s about it. For example, schizophrenia is permanent.
@@PraiseGodytthose are technically mental illnesses but they are not a permanent state. Depression, even chronic depression can change in severity dailly. Anxiety can be severe or situational. In other words these conditions can hibernate or go away. Can Jesus heal a psychopath? Asking as a believer. Because some earthly conditions are not curable in any way. One who lacks empathy cannot be made to feel, he or she can only mimic emotion. We live in a broken world, a fallen state. Some things can’t be explained away. Asking Jesus for the impossible doesn’t seem to align with his will.
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3 Point play has soo many advantages in its game play. Its efficient, its easier to build plays for and its also reduces wear and injuries on your team. You dont need to build a highly defensive team you need high level defensive and offensive rebounders for when the 3 misses.
13:01 the 12-5 graph bars are different heights.
Doesn't matter, look at the percentages. If you're trusting graphs for their visuals, you shouldn't have passed 7th grade.
@@animegopherwhat do you mean doesn’t matter??😂 So he shouldn’t give Jimmy feedback as long as the numbers are right?
@@minovictor It's just an exaggerated visual to demonstrate a point, the numbers are what's most important. Think of it as hyperbole, but in visual form. If you've ever lived in the real world and done any work in either an office or construction, you'd know that all the pretty pictures mean nothing, it's the numbers that matter. Or, once again, if you've ever passed the 7th grade, you'd know, because you're taught not to trust the graphs, they're just visuals to demonstrate a point and never exact.
@@animegopherBruh wtf are you yapping about. It's a mistake no matter how you look at it. Sure a small one but stills.
@@animegopher I’m literally a data analyst, I basically do what jimmy does but in the corporate world😂 A mistake is a mistake. Does it make a huge difference, no. But the fact that all the other bars on that chart and all the graphs are correct shows it’s not just a hyperbole in visual form. He understands that on TH-cam a big percentage of people aren’t here to read and just rely on visuals.
The only way you’d have a point here is if jimmys visuals are always off, which they’re not. So when he makes a one off mistake, it’s good to point it out.
2:05 wtf is lamelo doing up there lmao
shooting 'lights out'
If you had the hornets announcer egging you on you'd believe you were prime Jordan Poole too
@@rockysalvatore7352 good point lol
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He’s a shot chucked
That's intentional because the percentage of hitting a midrange is only a little higher than the three. But the points difference between 2 and 3 points is much higher (33%). Therefore, you either shoot a layup (nearly 100% shot) or a three.
The warrios are scary until Buddy Hield forgets how to shoot again
What if he doesn’t? He gets much better looks playing for the Warriors. Shooting wide open helps a lot with the shooting percentage.
He hasn't forgotten to forget for last decade, you expect him to forget suddenly 😂
After 2000 made threes 😅
Not happening brother.
@@FilJR99
Exactly. People talk about his past performances on teams that had no system. He’s on a team now that has a set offensive system thats ran by the greatest shooter of all time. He’ll be aiite lol
@@mohammadishaktayoob1143 yea he made 2000 threes and never makes them in the playoffs, that’s why Sacramento, Indy and Philly gave up on him 😂
@@CadeTorres7 nah. Warriors have a reputation for resurrecting careers. Look at Livingston and Wiggins.
I feel like bad teams particularly teams like the Hornets know they're gonna lose, so they play fairly degenerate basketball at this point. What they're doing with all of those 3s is not strategy it's gambling. When they Warriors dominated, not only were they making the shot at a consistent clip, but they also had a strong mid-range game as well. Bad teams now just shoot.
This is 100% accurate. Brooklyn under Kenny Atkinson was one of the first to use this strategy. If you're at a massive talent disadvantage, you try to make up for the disparity by firing away from the 3 point line, and hoping a couple of your guys get hot.
well, at the pro level, it works
I like this channel. Great analysis, great voice, I like the stats, the graphics, the topics, the pace. I've been following this channel for years (during the NBA season/playoffs). This video really did struck a chord. I am a "senior"", born 1971, based in Amsterdam NL and a lifelong basketball fan. Back in those days you relied on videos that came from the US, later (late 1980s) you could get sports TV w/ a box and a decoder... Now - since my daughter got her own apt - I get to watch a lot more NBA. I agree that the game has changed, say the last 10 yrs or so, with more and more and more threepointers, by more and more (skilled) pllayers. Also players are making "crazier" and "crazier" shots from range. But... I like points in the paint. Points in the paint are just more impressive, more exciting and more hussle and "athletic" to me. Alas, the game has changed. Seeing these stats just hammers the point home :(
Imo the explosion of the 3 Ball isn’t an “era”. It’s an evolution of the game itself, these sort of numbers will be there forever now
yea ur right lol, unless they make the line bigger
@@LegendGamer-dj8omexactly, it's time to move that line
@@fringe_minoritywont matter bc range is bigger too. Most guys can pull from 2 steps back. It will nerf spot up role guys and make the game hideous bc then the only way for them to look good is right inside this crowding the game again and also diminishing deep threat stars. It'll naturally lower a bit.
Exactly. It’s just maths. The 3 point shot is too valuable to give up. Players in the 80’s would transition to today’s game if they knew how valuable it is.
@@AstroSullyhonest question: do you genuinely think that the 80's coaches and players never did the simple math on shooting % relative to shot value? I thought of this fact when I first got into the NBA. This was twenty years ago. I even had those numbers 50 and 33% in my mind. (I loved math as a kid)
Do you think it's possible that at least some of the difference in playstyle has to do with rule & referee changes? Rule changes invariably change strategy: BASIC game theory.
It feels like Idiocracy to suggest no one ever considered value vs shooting % until the last ten years. In fact, it's almost so stupid as to be incredible.
Damn, that means Curry’s 3-point record could be broken within just five years of him retiring-and that’s after he completely shattered all the previous records. Crazy!
Quicker
Buddy been that guy before GS. He had a legit shot of pacers and sixers didn't shun him. There will be another
Maybe BUT a few things. Now that the entire team is taking 3's it means any single player isn't really taking anymore than Curry took in his record breaking year. Also, Harden proved shooting a lot does not mean making a lot. He attempted way more than Curry for several years and never got close to his record. Curry took 11 per game at a 45% efficiency, which is insane for an entire season. All 3 guys attempting more than 10 a game this year (Lamelo, Tatum, Ant) are all way below 45% already after only 10 games and even with Ants VERY hot start which will likely not last he is already well below 45%.
SO maybe its breakable sooner than we thought, but I would not underestimate how insane that season was for Curry. You have to average 5 makes a game for all 82 games of the entire season. The only way someone breaks it soon is likely by missing A LOT.
No one is trained like curry. No one has it like him. He's still the greatest there will ever be.
You don't see one person making more miserable/excited faces than him.
@@efenili In his first few years, Curry made around 644 threes, with his historic pace kicking off in 2012-13 when he set the single-season record. Today’s players are shooting threes at much higher volumes from their rookie seasons, which puts them in a strong position to pass Curry’s record if they play long enough. The three-point shot is now central to the game, so future players are likely to catch up quickly, taking even more threes than Curry did early in his career.
Basically they discovered the source of Steph's gravity. High 3pm creates gravity, but shooting more of them can create similar gravity in the way of spacing. But we've also seen the remedy for that. Great perimeter defenders and an agile Big who can meet cutters reliably. Put Steph on a team with AD and it's broken all over again. The solution to that is greater 3pt efficiency, and extremely great passing to find the open man.
I feel like Basketball has always been a blend of team ball and iso ball, and it still is.
I can’t believe what I’m seeing this season! Cleveland, Wemby, LeBron… the list goes on and on😅
I guess Jokic doesn't exist 😂
And Jokic 30 14 12 a game.
LeBron ain't doing anything impressive.
@@jermo1213lol ok
@@jermo1213lebron has 4 triple doubles in 11 games and he's 39😂 no way u sayin that's not impressive 😂 you're a couch potato and a nobody. Pipe down
Here we go again.
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5:22 “and they missed all 8” 😭 😭 damn
They were going for the record with their bench guys.
Is just crazy to see what Steph did for what it is today. I remember the time when he suffered with injuries earlier at his career that they were rumors of him retiring the league. Bron & KD we’re the most talked about players between 2011-2015. When Steph won his first ring, I thought that he was great (wich he also deserved a FMVP imo) but only lucky bcs of Kyrie’s & K Love’s injury. Then the next season him,Klay,Dray & co made the league in a new dimension with their 3s. KDs move to the warriors was shocking. But in some ways i can understand why he moved there. And i know it sounds crazy but if Kerr & Steph (with Klay & Dray ofc) worked way earlier together and didn’t suffered with injuries, then he could have more rings than Bron,KD,Kobe,Duncan and maybe MJ.
Without stephs injuries early on gsw might not of had a chance to draft, both draymond and klay, remember Steph was almost traded from gsw, hes injuries were so bad.
Steph is the most influential player of any sport ever and I'm not hearing any arguments about this anymore.
Yeah I think he made the three point revolution rapidly ramp up, it would've taken multiple decades to get to this point had he not existed
25% credit goes to steph, 75% credit goes to adam silvers, no defense, more spacing and this generation of players want less efforts they dont want to spend more tine mastering post moves, midrange, footwork and shit if they can get decent results from a simple move
Babe Ruth is more influential the home run wasn't really a thing before him. There was no Reggie, or Ray allen equivalent in baseball.
@guppy719 cause so many people are trying to be like "Babe Ruth" be fr bro
Tiger Woods disagrees
One stat not brought up here is the 3 Ball opens up waaay more offensive rebounding potential thus dozens of 2nd chances at you guessed it...MORE 3s!
As a short guard that loved rebounding, people bad at 3s was huge for me flying all over the court snagging them up or getting tip ins.
This is a huge part of the Celtics gameplan that’s started to be used by other teams, having people run in from the corner for offensive rbs on threes. Derrick white and Pritchard are insane at it and it even led to the buzzer beater against Miami in ECF 2023
4:45 this sounds terrible, maybe one day we’ll figure out why their ratings keep dropping though
Each team gets 20 three point attempts per half. After that any shot is only worth two points. All shots over half court are still worth three. The strategies would get interesting.
I was thinking of something like that. Just set a cap on how many points can be scored by 3pt'ers. If anything make it a rule for the In-Season Tournament games, try it out see how it works, or try it for the All-Star game. I remember back in the day depending on where you went to hoop they would play "All 1s" meaning every bucket counted as 1 pt. You play to 11 or 13, win by 2 or first to 15. So that way 3s were only valuable for those who could make them. An open shooter is still an open shooter, but that open corner 3 is no more valuable than any other more traditional way of scoring. Kept the game fresh, everyone could play their game and everyone could bring something valuable.
I actually love this solution. Nice work!
Yeah. This rule doesn't make any sense. It's like saying you can only shoot outside of the box (soccer) 5 times per game.
@@davighidetti8947 50 3pt attempts per game ‘doesn’t make any sense’, drastic times/drastic measures.
@@davighidetti8947 It's different as there are fewer shots on goal in football than there are shots taken in basketball. Apples and oranges.
The issue has been resolved, and players can now choose to take free throws from the line or the logo. The new mid-range line is worth 2.5. worth two points from the logo
2s becoming more valuable than 3s could just mean that more teams have essentially eliminated the mid range shot. It doesn't necessarily mean that all 2s are more efficient. So no, it doesn't necessarily mean teams will start shooting more 2s and 3s will drop. As long as the shot 5 feet away from a mid range jumper is worth one more point there's no reason to stop taking so many 3s.
They need to push the 3 point shot back 3-5 feet at least, they need to get the shot to be on par with 2's and moving the shot back would open up the floor spacing to improve the value of 2 point shots. It's not good for the league to have teams take 50 3's in a game, people don't want to watch a 3 point shooting contest every game.
If it was 3-5 feet back it would be basically useless
@@DukeOfAwsomeness Yeah, theres probably only 3-5 guys that would actually shoot from there, making it irrelevant
3-5 feet is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to much lmao
Do NBA fans just not watch the entire rest of the game in between the shot attempts? The actions and plays teams use to generate 3s are extremely dynamic and creative. It's not like dudes just dribble to the 3 point line and pull up on every possession.
@zachclarke61 no, it's not. But most of those ball movements and schemes are to get a good or even average look for the 3. For me, that's just not that exciting to watch: not enough variability and lack of defence and subsequently less tough and fun possessions due to too much spacing
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Jimmy doesn’t make the best basketball vids
Search up a dude named post2k
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You always know how to take stats in the perfect context and understand them enough to actually glean insight from them to make a point instead of using them to further a point you already had. Good work
I don't think the problem is three pointers, it's the lack of defense and the heighten level of foul calling. That's why Golden State games are exciting. They give it on both ends. If the NBA would let them play Defense they could challenge the offense to make for better gameplay.
im a simple man, jxmmy uploads, i watch. simple.
So simple he said it twice.
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The guy who said “jump shooting teams can’t win a championship” must be punching the air rn. One of the worrrsstt takes in basketball history.
Great video, after it I’ll watch some Shaq highlights
Jimmy makes the most binge-able videos, keep it up!
We’ve reached the “old heads were right” portion of history
Oh, no...We've ain't seen nothing yet
Wrong in the sense that teams should take midrange right in the sense that its ruining the game.
@@guppy719 Nothing wrong with taking 3s, nothing wrong with taking alot of 3s, but this is ridiculous. Taking a ton of 3s should only be a strategy when you're making them or you're in control of the game's momentum. But this no matter what we need to get up 40 3s is just crazy. It hurts to watch. Now if they allowed for Hand-checking again then I wouldn't mind because defenders would have a counter, but you can't touch then 3ft. from the basket and you can't touch them 30ft from the basket, how tf are you supposed to play Defense when they can travel, carry, double-dribble all while looking over your shoulder for 1 of 3 illegal screens you'll get hit with in this one possession. Just for your team to brick a wild 25ft'er and do it all over again.
@@09lowkeythis just lets me know you don’t actually watch games lol😂. Players hand check all the time and refs rarely call it. Besides, hand checking doesn’t address the spacing issue that defenses face when playing against threes. How is hand checking gonna stop corner three point shooters? It doesn’t. Hand checking simply allows for easier 1v1 defense and that’s it
@@gabrielnieves9974 This just lets me know you don't understand the nuances of the game in terms of what is allowed vs what is tolerated by the officials. You clearly never played, anyone who's played at least High School basketball will tell you there's a definitive difference between when defenders can use their hands vs when they can't. You really think refs call every single foul and violation that happens in a game? They don't, and there's a very good reason why, any player/coach would understand this, but you don't. With that said, your opinion is void, you don't have the required knowledge/experience with the game for me to take your opinion/outlook seriously.
You might say it's not good television or not pretty to watch teams chuck a bunch of threes but I have to disagree. My Chicago Bulls went from being one of the worse 3 point shooting teams last year to attempting the second most threes a game this season and I have to say I really enjoy watching the games, it requires a special level of ball movement to generate that many open looks and it is truly beautiful basketball. last year the bulls had a midrange heavy offence that was really stagnant; this year with all these three attempts the ball is flying all over the court, players are cutting at every opportunity, it's a much prettier game and I really do love it.
Thank you, there isn't nearly enough talk about ball movement in this discussion. As much as people want to minimize games to "just a 3pt contest" the looks are set up in a way more interesting way than the middy iso 1on1 games with 8 guys standing around
They called the same thing "Boring" when the Spurs did it 10 years ago
@@albertmanuk 100%
Exactly! As a Celtics fan I love our offense, its the best ball movement in the league
A thought;
- 3s were the highest awarded because the distance to the basket was the difficult part
- Now, the skill set of all players from 1-5 makes the “difficulty” much less so
- There’s also the anatomical evolution of NBA players being now around 4” taller, longer wingspan AND being more athletic since the late 1940s. So aside from the triple becoming a more acquired skill set, it also lets you space yourself from bigger, more athletic frames
It seems to me the most difficult section of the floor is the midrange because the space hasn’t grown BUT the athlete has AND they’re way more agile. They can maneuver and cover space so much easier.
- Solution: Make all or sections of the midrange a 4 point area. The skill of shooting has been acquired by most of the players. So the distance isn’t the hardest part now. The hardest part is scoring closer to the rim where these athletic big frames can contest. This will make teams have to run sets that are NOT 3s
Idk, just a thought
Basketball is always been a shooting game, the differrent is they did it in the mid range before and now they did it in the 3pt range, just watch 90' games it's a lot catch and shot in midrange
thats not true lol the jump shot wasnt even utilized in the beginning it was who has the biggest man and can dominate below the rim and even rn tis season where we are seeing the most 3p shooting one of the best teams is with a big man nikola jokic and his team is shooting the least amount of threes while having the best percentage right behind the cavs but the jump shot when it was eventually implemented into basketball was just a thing they used to make space for the big man so the defense had to spread out and not compact the paint so the big an had more space to work ... and it all boils down to the fact that the highest percentage shot in the sport is right under the rim
Eh the difference is that midrange is really a lot of places on the floor. Watch old footage and you realize that they are running sets and different depths while today its all at the same level to take advantage of the 3 point line.
amazing video as usual. However, I have to say that I don't find 3 point shooting bad for tv. I just love seeing this guys doing something that I know I'm completely unable to do. I just find it beautiful
first time a 15min basketball analysis video made me laugh hysterically 😂😂🤣 this shit is hilarious
Look at the Celtics’s points not changing 😂😂😂 4:58
I watched the whole video and no mention of the contrast of your story ? Mr. Mid range himself : Demar Derozan
i love the 3 point chucking games, ive never loved watching any team more than the 2015-2020 rockets.
This is why the ratings are down. The game is basically a 3 point competition
Makes for a new appreciation of the deadball era
Ratings aren’t ever gonna be a good way to look at that. A bunch of fans don’t want to pay for all of the subscriptions that they want you to pay for. Easier to hop on pirating websites where you can watch for free. Or just watch highlights.
Time to move the 3pt line
@@fringe_minority time to remove 3 pts all together, we need post game and dunks :|
@@NostalgicMem0riesthen the little guards will be useless
This is why I like watching the Grizzlies...leading the league in Points in the Paint
It's all gonna balance out, the sport is evolving, the strategies, the conditioning, the competition. It's gonna continously shift like it always has, balanced teams, monster defense, sharpshooter teams, different chemistry. It's still the same sport we're just seeing it in a larger scale.
You CAN'T use the Celtics vs the Knicks as an example because the Celtics were going for the record of most 3pts made on opening night but just kept missing them and couldn't get the last one they needed
Assuming that the Celtics' number one priority was winning the game and all other goals were subservient to that end... then no, it's entirely fair to use Celtics / Knicks as an example.
If Boston prioritized breaking an obscure record over winning or at all diminished their chances of winning, then the NBA (and its competitive culture) has serious problems.
Obviously we should assume the Celtics wanted to win though. Therefore there is nothing wrong with using this game as an example.
@@AnHebrewChild You obviously didn't watch the game lol
"Why does the NBA lost so many audience?"
Well... heres the explanation lol
It's because watching nba has become very expensive
There are three factors in winning basketball. One is 3-point attempt rate. The second is % of shots taken within 3 feet of the rim (layups and dunks.) And the third is free-throw rate.
The higher your team's combined total in those three stats, the more you are setting yourself up to win by taking the highest-value shots.
When I wrote about the NBA, I had a stat I called D'Antoni Index, which is those three numbers added up, then compared against the league average total to adjust for trends and eras.
Jxmy has been on a crazy long streak of great videos, I'm talking about years of nothing but great videos, this can't be normal considering all his videos are based on one main topic, Basketball 🤣 The guy has to be part of the illuminati or something 😂
I mean Kenny be dropping like 2 videos a day and he’s got great videos, not content, jimmy been snapping since Covid tbh, he’s got better production than the other guys that’s for sure, glad idk how dude looks too
Both overrated AF
The NBA should add a 3 pt dunk line.
Your statistics miss the fact that there are offensive rebounds.
Lets compare 2 options.
A: You take 3 3-pointer and make 6 points, you have a chance to get the one offensive Rebound.
B: You take 3 2 -pointer and make 6 points, you dont.
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I dunno what Nick is talking about. 3s and dunks have always gotten the most excitement out of the crowd at NBA games I've been to.
Just wanna say the hook beginning was great. I dont watch NBA but you had me intrested. Also you have a good voice for creepypasta if this doesn't work out.
4:55 tbf the celtics were trying to break the 3 point record. (They went 0-15 lmao)
imo I enjoy watching three-ball more than I did watching iso-ball.
I think something happened in the past few seasons where coaches realized that the value trade off calculations for 3pt vs 2pt were wrong, because they only factored in the expected point value from taking a 3 vs taking a 2.
The reality is that a simplified offense that prefers to miss a 3 than to attempt to get an advantage for a 2pt jumper/layup has the opportunity (when tuned) to also reduce turnovers, reduce injury, and allow for more easy to fill roster positions (you can bring a guy in who can hardly do anything, but can spot up for 3 at 38%+). When calculating the trade off, the 2x3pters = 3x2pters is wrong, because the 3pters bring more value than the equation would suggest. You can run simpler actions, have more space to do them, lower coaching skill gap by simplifying the game, and now dedicate more effort on the defensive side of the ball, because most guys are not doing anything on offense most plays now.
Boston has exercised this to the point of absurdity to where they’re not really fun to watch, because it’s not really great basketball.
Maybe I’m biased as a Celtics fan but we are great to watch, we have the best ball movement in the NBA. If you appreciate a team that passes well and defends hard, the Celtics are the team for you
7:41 she kinda cute tho
🥷s gettin way too down bad
@@skefixdown bad cuz he complimented her ???😭😭😭
Stop gooning bro
Noa Dalzell, one of the Celtics GOAT reporters right now!
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