@@cagedcombatso you'd rather be built with 200+ pounds of muscle and fat to the point where you cant even move properly and look like shit, ? Than be lean,attractive and athletic 😂 could never be me
@@user-nu6ux2qf4zI don’t see anything wrong with bodybuilding. I see a problem when people don’t incorporate more functional exercises and movements into their work out as well. You can be 1 of 2 bodybuilders. flexible, mobile but big and strong or big and strong and stiff as a board. I know what I’d rather be lol
Thats actually my favourite Video on this channel, no hate, no galze just facts and people who dont workout or try to get into Bodybuilding can decide of they wanna be a Bodybuilder, big but unathletic or an athlete, smaller but more athletic. Respect
What are your thoughts on calisthenics athletes (the ones that do BW high rep strenght-endurance workouts)? What do you think about their training methods, physique, functionality, etc. in comparison to bodybuilders and fighters?
this is the most correct thing I have seen u say in a very long time. However I disagree that athletes only train movements not muscles since it is in fact common for some athletes to do isolation exercises like curls or chest flies. A great example of this would be wrestlers, football players, waterpolo players etc.. Ur getting better but not quite there yet
you don't seem to understand the point bro. If athletes do chest flies and curls it's typically done during the hypertrophy phase of their workout plan. You can't see someone do one exercise and think it changes the rule bro.
@@MartinRiosFit no i think u didnt explain ur point very well. U were basically saying that athletes ONLY train movements and dont do any kind of hypertrophy. Go rewatch ur video and ull find that im right
@@MartinRiosFitWhen you're speaking in absolutes, e.g Athletes don't do this, athletes don't do that, etc. than it definitely does only take one exception to break a rule. If you want to admit that 95% of what you say when it comes to training athletes is just your opinion, then you can talk about single exceptions not breaking "your" rules.
I have been going gym for a few months now but my gym only lets 16 year olds use the free weights and i am 15 so I can’t use them and play football so want to train like an athlete. Will using the machines effect my performance massively ?
Regarding rep tempo, are you saying that athletes won't lift close to their 1rm because they would not be able to move the weight as explosively? The rep tempo part of this video was kind of confusing to me.
Yes, afaik. Athletes might do a 1rm, but only ever to gauge their max strength, they don't really chase PRs. Their priority is always moving weights quickly, so they can't lift heavy (lifting heavy for a long time is proven to make you slow and stiff). Make no mistake tho, lifting ligh but quickly will 100% make you stronger in heavy lifts too. I 100% advocate for not mindlessly chasing PRs, but staying with one weight until you can lift it explosively.
@@NeoArmstrongJetArmstrongCannon Trust me, athletes chase PR's. They're competitive by nature, especially in a group environment they're always trying to push more weight. From my observations, this particularly seems the case in contact sports like rugby, especially the forwards that tend to be strong to begin with. (Think Linebackers in NFL) An S&C coach will need to tell an athlete to take weight off because they're going too heavy a lot more often then they need to tell them to add more.
@@mitchellcotton7346 but they don't live heavy to chase or rarely even Jimmy butler said this he only trains 185 pound while other might be 400 or whatever
@@Might-as-wellmaybe “soccer”’s not logical, but like neither is the pronounciation of the word “rough” that doesnt mean everybody should stop pronouncing rough like that its just how it is
This kid is so year 1 anatomy its ridiculous. There's no such thing as a "functional movement" because skills do not meaningfully transfer between activities, general strength does. So the goal when resistance training is to build as much strength as possible with low skill, high resistance movements then AWAY from that, practice the exact motor patterns or "skills" required for your activity ideally under the same conditions in which you'll be required to perform them. If you try blending the two under the guise of "functional training", you simply end up with a meaningless motor pattern and minimal strength development while drastically increasing your risk for injury because you destabilized the movement. Bodybuilders are not "dysfunctional" because of the motor patterns they train. It's because they build too much size which limits their ranges of motion and throws off their power to weight ratios for speed based activities. And please stop flexing your 4-year degree in one of the easiest majors in school. I know because I have a masters in kinesiology. Checkmate apparently.
@@LilWillieBeatz Yeah, the whole "functional training" world is just fluffed up, overpriced, garbage that's sold to idiots. They tried to have QBs in the NFL throw a heavier football in practice because it's "functional" and it ended up failing because the QB had to change their throwing mechanics to accommodate for the extra weight and they literally lost ball speed. 🤣 So it was ultimately just a giant circle jerk waste of time that risked injury. This kid apparently missed the first lesson of Kinesiology 101 which is Selyes SAID principle (specific adaptation to imposed demands) which is You only get better at what you do especially related to skill. I guess he's creating a safe space for skinny kids to vent their frustration though so he's accomplishing something.
@codywirth8190 Would be interested to get your thoughts... I would have suggested that the reason most bodybuilders "can't" throw a punch would be more so a product of: A) Not training to throw punches, therefore poor kinetic sequencing B) They're training possibly being not velocity specific enough I agree that the machines vs free weight transferability difference is fairly negligible, but I would have thought it's an edge case scenario where someone gets "too big" to throw a good punch. Especially when guys like Eddie Hall appear to box pretty well (Obviously not elite level but still significantly better than most celebrity fighters)
Bro I hate to break it to you but people are gonna do what they want to do, just because you say “ athlete bodybuilding” is superior doesn’t make me care anymore stop trying to guilt trip people into doing stuff that they don’t give a shit about. If they’re not on gear, and both athletes and bodybuilders are so don’t act like they aren’t, how is bodybuilding killing you. This close minded and overly obsessed thinking is why people argue about this shit unnecessarily and have napoleon complexes for no reason. I keep seeing comments saying, why would I want to look like a “fat” bodybuilder or whatever and I’m like, first of all your body fat percentage is not comparable to a steroid user and second why announce this like ok we get it you don’t care about bodybuilding but it comes out of your mouth every time, like be a real man and move on.
THere's a MASSIVE difference between athletic use of roids & PEDs and meatheads blasting grams of gear. An athlete will use test cream to bring their test back up into the normal range because their training volume is so crazy it cuts their natural production. Fitness influencer jergoffs blast grams of tren until they look like a bleeding tumor for no reason other than clicks
It's not bad hypertrophy is also useful so u can get stronger and more powerful Training like athletes is training for power and skills but mostly skills so if u will train in the gym like u do in boxing do like what you do for example if ur a right hander or left hander and do power training For strength training it's ok to train it so u can have advantage against then in core strength so u don't get bodied in every fight or game u will play
@JaskaAksaj I respect your opinion dude but universally male aesthetic physique means wide shoulders and small waist so Leon got it may be for you it’s male gaze but for women they would chose Leon
Hey I have a question for you, becose there is a guy from my country , named ajthepolishamerican , he is natural (i know he looks like hes blasting gear) and i want you to tell something about him and if he looks good or to big hope you see it May the god be with you
The guy just called bodybuilder physique gross XD. I do agree to a certain extend but i wont called it gross lol but yea im actually surprised how many people want to look like bodybuilders. I dont get it
Hey Martin, watching you long time, love your content. Would like to share my thoughts on your approach. This video really felt very good and I think if you lower amount of aggression(I know it is for marketing) you would grow bigger. I think you should roast people only when what they say is clearly wrong, but when there is place for interpretation you should go nice way about it) Just my opinion
Bro how long you been lifting? If it’s more than a year, you should be the same size as Ray Lewis or you’re doing something wrong, regardless of the fact your bone structure is small. Trust me bro
@@buddybrick genuinely that is one of the most braindead takes I think I’ve ever heard in my life Mike Tyson puts it best if you use roids for fighting and the other person dies that should he assault you should be punished for that you can kill people when on gear easily
@@mrmarvelous8015 Mike Tyson was juiced to the tits, dumbass. Look at a picture of him at 16, that's why his voice never dropped. Hormones got fucked up early.
bodybuilders are athletes by definition… they also do include cardio on a regular basis. imo sounds like this guy is a coping and recovering wannabe bodybuilder.
Bodybuilders aren't athletes. They dont compete because Bodybuilding is a beauty pagent, Powerlifters and Weightlifters are more athlete than Bodybuilders.
@@Han-nk3io “someone who is training for specific conditioning could be considered an athlete”. bodybuilding is no more of a “beauty pageant” then fighting is, and i say that as a hobby fighter.
@@justjoshingyou0 Bodybuilding is not a sport prove me wrong then. Sports are competitive and subjective, Bodybuilding is not, even real Bodybuilders know this. Dont you even compare Roided up monsters flexing on stage to real combat athletes fighting for blood and money.
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Hey Marvin Rios my martial arts gym only has a smith with no squat rack are smith squats still useful
thanku martin for exposing us to the fitness matrix, i now take shits standing up to engage my core and make it more functional
Can i join u
I use to train like a bodybuilder, thank god I found the rios twins
#1 glazer
No you didnt
@@cagedcombatso you'd rather be built with 200+ pounds of muscle and fat to the point where you cant even move properly and look like shit, ? Than be lean,attractive and athletic 😂 could never be me
@@user-nu6ux2qf4zI don’t see anything wrong with bodybuilding. I see a problem when people don’t incorporate more functional exercises and movements into their work out as well. You can be 1 of 2 bodybuilders. flexible, mobile but big and strong or big and strong and stiff as a board. I know what I’d rather be lol
@@pollen1253 i get your point but i was exaggerating like how he did by saying "#1 glazer" like the commenter didnt even say anything bad
Thats actually my favourite Video on this channel, no hate, no galze just facts and people who dont workout or try to get into Bodybuilding can decide of they wanna be a Bodybuilder, big but unathletic or an athlete, smaller but more athletic. Respect
Definitely have to grab attention with short form content but long form I prioritize education. Thanks for the comment bro.
Manscape keeping your hair aesthetic ass hell
Great video, not hating on bodybuilders is a clever movo Martin.
This way many more people will respect you.
Youre doing great, never stop posting❤
Mario should be more popular so more kids can see him before its too late
Thats Martin 💀
@@llluuuiii6173 who's martin?
@@Might-as-wellhis brother💀
@@Might-as-well brooooo hell no
@@llluuuiii6173the white guy?
Martin rios is brand now
*Mario Rios
@@Might-as-wellthis is martins channel
@@Might-as-wellcorrect yourself before yapping to others
@@Wryyyyyyyyy21 🤫 i'm trolling bro.
Idk why but somehow i was actually more interested in the sponsorship than the video. Brother you sold that well, thinking about getting me a kit now.
Make fitness great again.
What are your thoughts on calisthenics athletes (the ones that do BW high rep strenght-endurance workouts)? What do you think about their training methods, physique, functionality, etc. in comparison to bodybuilders and fighters?
they are not athletes. just because you do push ups in your moms basement does not make you an athlete
@@user-cg3xl2ym3g I know. I said athletes just so it would be clear who I am talking about.
@@user-cg3xl2ym3gIf you compete in Calisthenics, then you are an athlete.
If you just use it as a training methodology than you're not.
i love the rios twins and agree with what they say, but with all due respect martins gotta bulk up to have that physique that women love
Martins huge female audience already adores him
Thank you 👍
this is the most correct thing I have seen u say in a very long time. However I disagree that athletes only train movements not muscles since it is in fact common for some athletes to do isolation exercises like curls or chest flies. A great example of this would be wrestlers, football players, waterpolo players etc.. Ur getting better but not quite there yet
you don't seem to understand the point bro. If athletes do chest flies and curls it's typically done during the hypertrophy phase of their workout plan. You can't see someone do one exercise and think it changes the rule bro.
@@MartinRiosFit no i think u didnt explain ur point very well. U were basically saying that athletes ONLY train movements and dont do any kind of hypertrophy. Go rewatch ur video and ull find that im right
Bro always gotta find a way to hate 😂😂 bro always gotta be correct
@@MartinRiosFitWhen you're speaking in absolutes, e.g Athletes don't do this, athletes don't do that, etc. than it definitely does only take one exception to break a rule.
If you want to admit that 95% of what you say when it comes to training athletes is just your opinion, then you can talk about single exceptions not breaking "your" rules.
Thank you!
Could you make a video about how to develop cardiovascular endurance??
No offense but look it up dipshit what new thing will he teach you, seriously Google exists for a reason buddy
The trimmer brand choose my man for promotion 💀
I have been going gym for a few months now but my gym only lets 16 year olds use the free weights and i am 15 so I can’t use them and play football so want to train like an athlete. Will using the machines effect my performance massively ?
Regarding rep tempo, are you saying that athletes won't lift close to their 1rm because they would not be able to move the weight as explosively? The rep tempo part of this video was kind of confusing to me.
Yes, afaik. Athletes might do a 1rm, but only ever to gauge their max strength, they don't really chase PRs. Their priority is always moving weights quickly, so they can't lift heavy (lifting heavy for a long time is proven to make you slow and stiff).
Make no mistake tho, lifting ligh but quickly will 100% make you stronger in heavy lifts too. I 100% advocate for not mindlessly chasing PRs, but staying with one weight until you can lift it explosively.
@@NeoArmstrongJetArmstrongCannon
Trust me, athletes chase PR's. They're competitive by nature, especially in a group environment they're always trying to push more weight. From my observations, this particularly seems the case in contact sports like rugby, especially the forwards that tend to be strong to begin with. (Think Linebackers in NFL)
An S&C coach will need to tell an athlete to take weight off because they're going too heavy a lot more often then they need to tell them to add more.
@@mitchellcotton7346 but they don't live heavy to chase or rarely even Jimmy butler said this he only trains 185 pound while other might be 400 or whatever
Please stop calling it soccer, it it FOOTBALL
Cry about it
It’s soccer and football. Like the letter Z is both “zee” & “zed” in different countries. Neither is correct, just different (it’s soccer btw)
Both are correct soccer is an abbreviation of asoccer with is an abbreviation of association because of FIFA
Football is just a more logical name.
@@Might-as-wellmaybe “soccer”’s not logical, but like neither is the pronounciation of the word “rough”
that doesnt mean everybody should stop pronouncing rough like that its just how it is
Well explained
Rare video where Mario doesn't roast bodybuilders
Well said
He still did he said gross bodybuilder
your video volume is low, i have it all on max and still i hear you low. Great video though
Check your device,, video look loud to me.
The sound on this video is not it boss. I had to play this on max volume, just to hear a little bit.
This kid is so year 1 anatomy its ridiculous. There's no such thing as a "functional movement" because skills do not meaningfully transfer between activities, general strength does. So the goal when resistance training is to build as much strength as possible with low skill, high resistance movements then AWAY from that, practice the exact motor patterns or "skills" required for your activity ideally under the same conditions in which you'll be required to perform them. If you try blending the two under the guise of "functional training", you simply end up with a meaningless motor pattern and minimal strength development while drastically increasing your risk for injury because you destabilized the movement.
Bodybuilders are not "dysfunctional" because of the motor patterns they train. It's because they build too much size which limits their ranges of motion and throws off their power to weight ratios for speed based activities. And please stop flexing your 4-year degree in one of the easiest majors in school. I know because I have a masters in kinesiology. Checkmate apparently.
ong my schools strength and conditioning coach goes off of the exact general model u just laid out
@@LilWillieBeatz
Yeah, the whole "functional training" world is just fluffed up, overpriced, garbage that's sold to idiots.
They tried to have QBs in the NFL throw a heavier football in practice because it's "functional" and it ended up failing because the QB had to change their throwing mechanics to accommodate for the extra weight and they literally lost ball speed. 🤣
So it was ultimately just a giant circle jerk waste of time that risked injury.
This kid apparently missed the first lesson of Kinesiology 101 which is Selyes SAID principle (specific adaptation to imposed demands) which is You only get better at what you do especially related to skill.
I guess he's creating a safe space for skinny kids to vent their frustration though so he's accomplishing something.
@@codywirth8190 haha yeah 😂 I dont rly know much about kinesiology but that all makes sense lmaoo
I can see where you are coming from. Gym is good for the base, but if you want to build up on it you have to train for that thing also.
@codywirth8190 Would be interested to get your thoughts...
I would have suggested that the reason most bodybuilders "can't" throw a punch would be more so a product of:
A) Not training to throw punches, therefore poor kinetic sequencing
B) They're training possibly being not velocity specific enough
I agree that the machines vs free weight transferability difference is fairly negligible, but I would have thought it's an edge case scenario where someone gets "too big" to throw a good punch. Especially when guys like Eddie Hall appear to box pretty well (Obviously not elite level but still significantly better than most celebrity fighters)
How do i split this op over 3-4 gym days in a week do i work fullbody everytime Im in the gym?
Do vids on Silver Era bodybuilder
I do agree but athlete does... hypertrophy aswell but ig you meant priorites
Of course I mean priorities, as athletes do have Hypertrophy blocks in their programs.
I need a full week workout split can you do a video about it?
(Caicedo is mid bro)
Bro I hate to break it to you but people are gonna do what they want to do, just because you say “ athlete bodybuilding” is superior doesn’t make me care anymore stop trying to guilt trip people into doing stuff that they don’t give a shit about. If they’re not on gear, and both athletes and bodybuilders are so don’t act like they aren’t, how is bodybuilding killing you. This close minded and overly obsessed thinking is why people argue about this shit unnecessarily and have napoleon complexes for no reason. I keep seeing comments saying, why would I want to look like a “fat” bodybuilder or whatever and I’m like, first of all your body fat percentage is not comparable to a steroid user and second why announce this like ok we get it you don’t care about bodybuilding but it comes out of your mouth every time, like be a real man and move on.
THere's a MASSIVE difference between athletic use of roids & PEDs and meatheads blasting grams of gear. An athlete will use test cream to bring their test back up into the normal range because their training volume is so crazy it cuts their natural production. Fitness influencer jergoffs blast grams of tren until they look like a bleeding tumor for no reason other than clicks
yo marteen are you gonna make a video on jeff nipples’ tricep exercise tier list?
I do hypertrophy training for 2-3 months in the off season of track but I do athletic movements not seated exercises is that bad?
Then I do strength/power exercises for the pre season and in season is that bad?
It's not bad hypertrophy is also useful so u can get stronger and more powerful
Training like athletes is training for power and skills but mostly skills so if u will train in the gym like u do in boxing do like what you do for example if ur a right hander or left hander and do power training
For strength training it's ok to train it so u can have advantage against then in core strength so u don't get bodied in every fight or game u will play
Thank you
Is calisthenics good for football tho??
After 2 days islam makhacev will kill dustin porior
😂😂😂😂
I trained like an athlete. I want overall balance from endurance to speed to strength. Body Builders for me are slow and easy to get exhausted.
How the hell did that guy at 10:00 even manage to lift that amount of weight? He looks small…is it his leverages and ROM?
Nope, he's just strong
Idk what people call it lmao but there are people who are stronger but "small" vice versa
@@divinity1495Makes sense, I’ve heard you can condition your CNS to handle those weights even if you’re smaller
Looks are deceiving
Nice
In my opinion Cbum is more aesthetic the Leon Edwards but thats my opinion
What😂
Real
Actually idk, you can have your opinion
@JaskaAksaj I respect your opinion dude but universally male aesthetic physique means wide shoulders and small waist so Leon got it may be for you it’s male gaze but for women they would chose Leon
Boyz let Martin fume us.
How many machines do you use?
I use a leg curl
Why is this video's audio is so low
Long live athletic bodybuilding
Yo what is an alternative for t raises and y raises i dont have that machine in my gym
Do it with dumbbell after leaning over
Hey
I have a question for you, becose there is a guy from my country , named ajthepolishamerican , he is natural (i know he looks like hes blasting gear) and i want you to tell something about him and if he looks good or to big
hope you see it
May the god be with you
Dont believe anyone. If they look like they are on steroids then they are.
3:09 Dang for a second I though it said "ESTROGEN" behind him
Make Athletic Fitness Incredible Again
M.A.F.I.A
This video super quiet to yall ?
MARIOOOOO
The guy just called bodybuilder physique gross XD. I do agree to a certain extend but i wont called it gross lol but yea im actually surprised how many people want to look like bodybuilders. I dont get it
Hey Martin, watching you long time, love your content.
Would like to share my thoughts on your approach. This video really felt very good and I think if you lower amount of aggression(I know it is for marketing) you would grow bigger. I think you should roast people only when what they say is clearly wrong, but when there is place for interpretation you should go nice way about it)
Just my opinion
Problem is he'd be left with about 6 videos on his channel if he only went after people who were wrong 🤷♂️
@@mitchellcotton7346 I mean to do this from this moment, not delete everything he did before)
This is Martin not Mario.
Facts
@@laselecta9012 I know it really, but somehow wrote Mario. Thanks for correcting
video is too quiet
Is anyone actually paying the 75 a month he’s charging ?
This is why bodybuilders have the same athletic ability as Leonidas Eddie
This is why Leon Edwards is the most athletic body builder
This is the side of martin that angry TH-cam shorts commenters don’t see
Common mario W
Bro how long you been lifting? If it’s more than a year, you should be the same size as Ray Lewis or you’re doing something wrong, regardless of the fact your bone structure is small. Trust me bro
Comparing an athlete and a bodybuilder is like comparing an army to a marine corps.
No its like comparing real grass fed beef with fake vegan meat
Most athletes are on loads of gear Martian is a huge hypocrite going after bodybuilders
Not rlly
@@armyboicamo27 yeah most UFC fighters are on gear
@@mrmarvelous8015because they have to feed their family by fighting and steroids help them with that. But most bodybuilders don't even compete.
@@buddybrick genuinely that is one of the most braindead takes I think I’ve ever heard in my life Mike Tyson puts it best if you use roids for fighting and the other person dies that should he assault you should be punished for that you can kill people when on gear easily
@@mrmarvelous8015 Mike Tyson was juiced to the tits, dumbass. Look at a picture of him at 16, that's why his voice never dropped. Hormones got fucked up early.
an athlete is probably is not lazy guy that cant complete a website with a website builder
19 views in one minute bro fell off
Say that again 😂😂😂
bodybuilders are athletes by definition… they also do include cardio on a regular basis. imo sounds like this guy is a coping and recovering wannabe bodybuilder.
It’s super hard to be a bodybuilder but it’s gay -Andrew Tate
Bodybuilders aren't athletes. They dont compete because Bodybuilding is a beauty pagent, Powerlifters and Weightlifters are more athlete than Bodybuilders.
@@Han-nk3io “someone who is training for specific conditioning could be considered an athlete”. bodybuilding is no more of a “beauty pageant” then fighting is, and i say that as a hobby fighter.
There’s nothing athletic about bodybuilding guy
@@justjoshingyou0 Bodybuilding is not a sport prove me wrong then. Sports are competitive and subjective, Bodybuilding is not, even real Bodybuilders know this. Dont you even compare Roided up monsters flexing on stage to real combat athletes fighting for blood and money.
Bodybuilder all the way