Sorry, it's a bit late. I don't like releasing anything like this that isn't thoroughly researched, fact-checked, and polished. Hopefully, it's worth your time. What would you like me to investigate next? Thank you for the view. :) Also, since I'm sure that people are going to ask why I didn't include something about DMT. I read just about every research article I could find from the last decade on NDEs, and I couldn't find any conclusive evidence that DMT has anything to do with NDEs. It's an interesting hypothesis, but until more research is done in this area, I feel it's misleading to include it. And yes, I'm also aware of the study that showed an electrical spike in rats' brains at the time of death. This may provide a clue into the nature of NDEs, if the same is true for humans, but more research is needed in this area. I may bring it up in future videos, this one was just getting very long/labor-intensive already, and I wanted to avoid speculation as much as I could.
At 6:00 you listed a number of sensory experiences one can have as a result of hypoxia. Last summer I experienced all of these as a result of depression induced sleep deprivation as well. The event did indeed seem otherworldly. Clearly they are signs -- not of the presence of the supernatural -- but of a brain in crisis.
Some people sell books about this tunnel of light stuff saying its evidence for god. If it was evidence it wouldn't be a money grubbing book, it'd be a science journal and get peer reviewed, they are liars.
If possible, would you able to do a video on your view of veganism? Whether you are vegan or not, it would be very interesting to know your intake. I really admire Richard Dawkins on his honesty despite not being one.
Holy Koolaid , how about interviewing atheist who left their Conservative fundamentalist family share their stories, and give us an update on how things are with their family and peers now
I died from an Asthma attack in the second grade(no breathing, cardiac arrest), luckily there was an ambulance a few blocks up the road that was able to resuscitate me. I remember experiencing nothing, there was a slight sense that time had passed, but utter blackness and a lack of thoughts. I actually began to have my first Atheist thoughts several months later, it wasn't until my early 20s that I accepted the fact that I'm not a Christian.
Even when I was SURE we could survive physical death, I never thought this had anything to do with a god or creator. I still don't understand why anyone would think that one implies the other, or NEEDS the other.
I fainted twice, and in both instances I only recall darkness. Nothing happened. The first time it happened, I heard myself bump into something as I fell, but when I came to, my vision was like a trippy noise interference. It was rainbowic. As my vision cleared, I felt as though I was spinning to the left. The second time, I just blanked out. After these two experiences, I wondered if there was even an afterlife. I am an atheist.
The only thing sad is your reply. Atheists are not anti god. You can't be against something that you don't believe exists in the first place. I for one WOULD be against god if there WAS such a thing. The idea of an all powerful supreme being is just disgusting. But as it stands I am not against god. What I am against is the IDEA of a god. It's a terrible idea and you need to forget about it.
Many people who experience NDE's come back with the revelation that we should be kinder to one another. For many, they become more loving, caring, passionate, and generally much happier after their experience. Whether this revelation is from "god", a "creator", or merely a product of your own subconscious mind, or your own conscience, my question is: who cares? Is this phenomenon not incredibly wonderful?
The change in behavior of people who have had NDE's (if there is a significant change in behavior) could also be the result of mild brain damage similar to the personality changes some stroke survivors exhibit.
@@garethbaus5471 That is a possibility, however personality changes in stroke victims tend to me more of a mixed deck, whereas personality changes in an NDE-experiencer generally follow a formula of becoming less selfish and more giving to others. I'd be curious to see research to determine if these personality changes from NDE-experiencers can be traced to some form of brain damage.
so you're on your deathbed and you start to drift off skyward, not knowing if you are about to meet your maker, or if you are bound for the hot place, but you stop to check out the colour of polythene bags, you drop by the nurses station to see what's on tv, you pop into the linen closet to read bar codes on bed sheets, yeah sure, thats your eternal soul. if it was me i would want some questions answered, can we travel faster than light, what is the cure for cancer? what do people bring back from their meeting with god? "granny says love each other"
Thanks man. Was beaten, suffocated on my blood, stopped breathing and and heart stopped beating. Was revived sometime either during ambulance ride or ER. Had a wonderful experience on the way to the hospital; floated out of ambulance, the world was full of a kind of warm, clear and overwhelming light. The buildings began to change and people I felt I somehow knew or were related to came out to greet me. I woke up a week later in ICU, remember almost nothing about the beating or the hospital but I can remember this like it was yesterday even though it was 30 years ago. I already had superpowers.
I used to believe in NDEs, and then I read one case - guy on a bike was hit by a car. He had the classic NDE experience - the tunnel, the light, the voices, etc. Trouble is, he was never near death. He only broke his leg. Also the fact that people throughout time have seen their own culturally taught afterlives leads me to believe it's brain chemistry.
According to psychiatrist Bruce Greyson, people don't see culture-specific items in their NDEs. Their interpretation of the experience however, may be influenced by their cullture, but the experience itself is probably not. Plus, there's the fact that people have experiences which outright contradict their preconceived beliefs, and those who knew nothing about the phenomenology or ocurrence of NDEs. So, your claim about cross-cultural differneces is easily disputable. You're welcome to email Dr. Bruce Greyson himself and he will confirm these facts with you and cite his sources. The idea that it's just brain chemistry is also even more doubtful when you consider that people who are having these experiences (during cardiac arrest or general anesthesia) don't have any cerebral function.
@@zakhust6840 - that's nice, but Dr. Greyson is not the only psychiatrist / neurologist who has knowledge of NDEs, nor does he reference EVERY NDE experience that has been reported and what you claim he said totally contradicts the reports of people who claim to have had NDEs. Since each NDE is a personal experience, Dr. Greyson cannot tell them they didn't experience what they said they experienced. So his conclusions are easily disputable. As for people who have had experiences without cerebral function - that is a dubious claim. Of course they had cerebral function. That's why this phenomenon is called NEAR death experience. They aren't really dead. If they were totally brain dead, they would still be dead.
@@benjalucian1515 As I said, you're welcome to email him directly, he will corroborate those facts I mention. He has one of the largest database of experiences reported which does seem to contradict what you say. Cardiac arrest NDEs didn't have any cerebral function. Not even deep in the brain like the guy on this video claims. EEGs have been measured and they show flatline, which indicate non-functioning of the cerebral cortex. BAEPs measure activity deep in the brain, from the brainstem, during circulatory arrest, they are absent, so the whole brain is offline, not even a little bit of brain which may support those experiences.
@@zakhust6840 - I don't have to reach out to him, I know he's wrong or that his information is incomplete, or he's intentionally leaving out cases that don't fit his thesis. *Cardiac arrest NDEs didn't have any cerebral function* Let me repeat, if you have NO brain function, even more than an EEG can detect, then you are brain dead. NO ONE has returned from being brain dead. NO ONE.
@@benjalucian1515 Then, you would be the one who is ignoring mischievously the following: (1) Studies on the phenomenology of NDEs conducted by Bruce Greyson himself. You're claiming that you know he's wrong or that he's intentionally cherry picking, claims for which you present precisely zero evidence. And (2) ignoring 50 years of neurophysiological that demonstrates that cerebral function ceases entirely during cardiac arrest. Brain death is when the brain becomes so damaged it no longer can be brought back to life. Cerebral function can cease entirely without the patient having to be brain death. We're talking about the metabolic activity of the brain on it's relation to consciousness. The brains of these people were completely shut down, any experience reported was not result of brain chemistry.
My younger brother was a pilot in the Air Force. Before you become a pilot you are put in a machine that registers how many G's of force your body can handle before you pass out this is important because when you're in an airplane that's taking a dive you need to know how much you can take and not pass out. But what's interesting is that most Pilots when they're close to passing out have an experience that is a very very much like near-death experiences. This includes the bright light someone walking towards them the feeling of being warm and loved the whole thing. Then they usually pass out throw up and come to and remember a lot of what they saw. Many many doctors think near-death experiences have to do with the lack of oxygen to the brain that the brain is responding to this lack of oxygen by producing Good Feeling hallucinations. And as an aside Pilots all over the world experienced the same thing when they are in this G-Force simulator.
i checked some german ndes, 1 person experienced a comforting darkness 2 experienced a darkness where they would be humiliated by creatures 2 experienced a beautiful garden 3 experienced a comforting light from which 2 said that they could feel it is god
When I initially read the first line of your comment, I mistook it for "I checked some German nudes" and I'm thinking where's he going with this? Then I felt like a dipshit after reading it a second time...
@luisbarbosa8136 i could tell you the source of the reports (Einblicke ins Jenseits), but they are in german and are just reports of people. So there is no real proof other than people having supposedly similar near death experiences.
You have dreams every night, but you don’t remember most of them. Just because someone said they don’t have an NDE doesn’t mean it didn’t exist. It could also mean they don’t remember them.
The problem is that this begs the question how *anyone* could remember an NDE without the brain being there to do the memorizing. I question how the 9% that say they had an NDE can even remember such an experience at all. We know the brain stores memories because if you damage the brain, you lose memories associated with that part of the brain. If you stimulate certain parts of the brain, it triggers memories. People who claim NDE experiences are real are trying to have it both ways -- my consciousness left my brain, but still utilized and stored things in my brain.
@@fade1473 if ur soul stores it then do u remember anything before ur birth as they say soul Never dies ! So it's clearly the brain that do it and one more example alziemers patients can't even make memories why cuz there brain cells died off i hope that explains
Hardcore evangelical groups are notorious for buying ad space in "enemy territory" in the hopes that they can successfully evangelize a few Atheists. Just skip the ad, or better yet click on a bunch of times. Every click bills the advertiser.
Torque2100 I go to their website and put a link to rational video I originally clicked on in their comment section if they allow comments, which a lot of them don't .
+Torque2100 That's actually a good idea. Billing the advertiser costs them money and, if I understand YT monetization correctly, helps support the channel without a direct Patreon contribution.
Yeah I dont know... I spent time as an EMT and I've seen some things. My little brother is a paramedic and has stories that give me chills. I'm going to attempt a counter-argument here. First, I can put you in a sleeper hold and you will lose all conscious abilities and your sense of self and personal agency along with all abilities to process coherent thought in 3-5 seconds, SECONDS... yet somehow these people are in a FAR more hypoxic state than you would be (in the hypothetical sleeper hold) and are still able to have vivid hyper-conscious states in which complex themes are interconnected and visualized? Then they are able to form a memory of said experience? I call bullshit. There is something else here. It doesn't have to be hocus-pocus fairy tale shit if you don't feel comfortable with the thought that perhaps all phenomena cannot be understood through materialist reductionism. It's fully possible that our consciousness resides in some quantum state as an independent entity within the universe. Or perhaps there IS really a spiritual dimension to human existence? I find that most people who even reject that as a possibility have alternate agendas or some deep psychological injury they are harboring. I personally know of three people who have had NDEs while in a medically brain-dead state (lack of pulse or efficacious perfusion, not breathing, fully unconscious with profound injury or GCS rating below 5. (Glasgow Coma Scale) All three of them are sound minded sane people and all of them have been changed forever. Two of them were previously atheist or at least agnostic and now all three are fully confident there is "something else" and have lost all fear of death. That is fucking profound and I've become convinced through speaking with them that they were not hallucinating, nor do I believe they were medically able to perceive a hallucination, much less form a robust memory of it, with their degree and extent of injury. Plus, I've hallucinated hardcore on certain...ahem...chemicals in my past. And it's a disjointed surreal experience that can be frightening and disorienting. Their experiences are nothing like a DMT/LSD experience. Have you ever had a hardcore bad trip? It is NOT an OBE or a spiritual experience. It's....something else. Although I find the "God helmet" intriguing, it's also possible it is stimulating the portion of our brain responsible for imagination and dreaming. But there's a much bigger problem. All of the participants who wear the God helmet and have the "triggered" OBE's are CONSCIOUS and have a fully functioning non-ischemic brain, are not in cardio-pulmonary arrest, and likely have excellent cerebral perfusion. I'll give you a hint, if you want that experience skip the helmet. It's called 5MEO-DMT.... that's what you want. It's also possible that if there is an extremely powerful God who created an entire multiverse, that He (or She) would interact with us each in such a way that we would expect so as to not destroy us or cause deep turmoil. What if no one religion is correct but we all perceive that God is there so we create images of him which are tainted by our cultures? In this way God could be very real and the various religions of man are just our different, culturally colored ways of expressing our intuition of his existence? Yes, Christians may see Jesus, or a Hindu might see Siva or Lord Ganesha. But the elements of the NDE, (OBE, bright soothing light, feeling of peace and love, zero fear, a "tunnel" or "light", communing with passed relatives or holy figure, and realization that it's "not their time") these are all fairly uniform across all cultures if you read the literature available. Also, if a false delusion or dream state, why would it be so uniform? Why wouldn't some folks have NDEs about fighting Frieza on Snake Way or NDEs about touring as Metallica's new bass player? These are only reported by someone who intentionally wants to mess with the data pool (as you did with your C3PO "experience"). I think there is more here than we know and I felt you were a little too dismissive in your video. Your wrap up was nice but I still think there is more here than we know what to do with. Also... aliens are real. Peace.
I was thinking most of what you said here and came to the conclusion that ‘Aliens or beings with higher intelligence and technology do exist; so even if all of our theories are false, that one could be the answer that we won’t know for a long time’
@@somedude8873 Its a big ass Universe. I'd actually be pretty shocked if we were alone. I also think conscious first-person subjective awareness gives a certain confirmation that conscious experience is a fundamental aspect of reality. In other words, the universe exists with conscious agents because it was always MEANT to have conscious agents. Hell, what if conscious experience is actually the base layer of reality and material existence is just the derivative "stage" on which it exists? To put it briefly, what if the Universe didnt evolve consciousness, what is conscious experience evolved the universe?
The god helmet is been pretty discredited by the lack of repeat-ability. Katamine produces a similar, but far from exact response in people. Hypoxia leads to decreased awareness which is the opposite response of reported NDEs. Blanks experiment had 6 participants who all had underlying neurological problems, so it was too small a sample size and a poor choice of candidates. Finally your assumption that people who come back would have special knowledge of an afterlife is like assumes it follows the same rules as our universe. We have no basis for that assumption, the rules of our own universe appear to change between the quantum and macro realms "there may be a theory to link the two but we have no idea at the moment". Its likely that if they did go to an afterlife there would be things that our brains cannot comprehend "try to imagine a new color or the spatial arrangement of a 4 dimensional shape". I'm not saying there is not a scientific explanation, but in the rush to disprove religion some very sloppy science has been done.
The ketamin thing is a hypothesis, they don't claim it to be the answer just a potential explanation. The god helmet has been found to cause experiences via placebo meaning that the subject is experiencing things due to them believing it's happening. That's more damming evidence as it means these experiences like ndes can happen depending of how surgestible the subject is. Also blanks findings were backed up later were a 10 year old experienceing seizures had a out of body experience and the doctors found a growth were in the same spot. More research in recent years backs this up.
I think you should flesh out the part about the good helmet, Half a sentence is proofs or disproves nothing. But i would be thery intrested in hearing what you have to say.
I've seen things in my life that have thoroughly convinced me that there is an afterlife..... My Dad died of a heart attack, and my little Nephew saw him, without any ONE of us knowing this. He told my Sister, his Mother, that he saw him..... My Nephew is only a little kid..... My Mom saw him in the morning, and he spoke to her..... I saw Dad in a dream, and he told me he loved me..... None of us knew he had died, until we found out later in the day..... None of us, my Mom, my Nephew, or me even knew about this at the time my Dad visited us..... All of this took place a little while after he passed on..... I am not religious..... There are plenty more events I could speak about..... No skeptic on EARTH could convince me that we don't see our loved ones again. :) I don't believe in heaven or hell, but I do believe in an afterlife..... I have hope, and it's going to stay that way. :D
I believe there are some near death experiences that are true in which people have seen loved ones who have passed on. I also believe that there are many that are not true. You have to study every near death experience for yourself.
There is life after death, because experience (of some form, from one source or another) is the only option. The idea that just because I end means "there's nothing" (somehow an experience of "nothing") after I die, is absurd. I will no longer be the context in which experience is occurring in, but there will be new brains born *after* my brain rots away, so it'll be in the context of whichever organism happens to be born after I die that experience will continue. This completely excludes souls from the equation. But we should also remove "Nothing" from the equation too because "nothing" is... well, nothing, and only Something is what exists. So, in the same way your brain came to exist (from biology), a new brain will come to exist after the current one turns to dirt. As long as there's a brain in the universe, that experience will be experienced. Non-experience simply does not happen. So in the same way your experience was forced on you, yet another experience (via some other organism) will be forced on it. For it its experience will be the only thing it can ever know.
@@naturalisted1714 Here comes the made up bullshit without any evidence whatsoever. NDEs are debunked as hallucinations and Their is no evidence of 'Soul'. Stop misleading people.
@@gabrielwilliams9093 We have no way of verifying these stories are truthful and accurate (see this video for two examples). People lie, exaggerate, misunderstand and misremember all the time, especially about emotional things. (What could be more emotional than NDE?) For every 'unexplainable story' there are ways the information could be contaminated or just outright fabricated. A more consistent explanation is that a part of the inner core of the brain remains slightly conscious during the NDE (EEG only measures the outer layers, not the cortex) and the person is picking up information from hearing people talking around them without realizing. You know -- just as things you hear while sleeping can affect your dreams. Your brain is picking up information without being conscious enough to realize it. If I have to pick between either A) inconsistent stories of the afterlife that vary from culture to culture and are only experienced by 9% of people who come back from cardiac arrest and are only supported by personal anecdotes which can easily be contaminated or fabricated or B) hey, the brain is an amazingly complex thing we don't fully understand yet, I'm going with B.
My grandfather flat lined about 4 times before he ultimately passed away. He was a deist (a person that believes in the existence of a God, without the need for religion). He never experienced a NDE. He did however compared flat lining to going under general anesthetic, and that it was ultimately a peaceful experience, coming back however was not so peaceful. Towards the end of his life he got sick of being brought back to life. So we let him go as that was what he wanted.
As someone who had an NDE back in the Seventies (in my twenties), in another country, without having heard of the phenomenon before, I wouldn’t call the experience meaningless. It was the most amazing experience of my life. It had nothing to do with any religion or anything supernatural. That despite me having been a Catholic who believed in god and the supernatural at the time. If anything, it was the one experience in my life that led to me eventually leaving all that belief behind. So what if it is rare? Are you suggesting the 9% of cardiac arrest patients who experienced it made it all up just because the others did not experience it? Or that just because some unscrupulous con artists who have heard of it would make up ridiculous stories (that anyone who actually did have an NDE would recognize as fake), such an experience is not possible? And no, I did not have a cardiac arrest at the time (my body was fighting an infection of my lymphatic system and I had high fever, how high I do not know because I was in a hotel room and we did not have a thermometer), and I did not see any special light, no dead people came to say hello, and I never left the hotel room during the experience. I also was not looking for any hidden artifacts to prove my experience later. I was floating above my body, watching it shake, though I fell no connection to “him”. Then I saw my mother and her sister standing at “his bed” (I was watching them from the middle of the room by then, so I just saw their backs) and I was puzzled why they were weeping when I was feeling so good. I don’t remember how I got out of, and then back in to, my body. I have never thought about it as being in any way supernatural, and, quite frankly, I don’t understand why so many people who never had such an experience dismiss it as “unscientific”. How on Earth do you suggest I or anyone prove it scientifically (or that we care if anyone else believes us). I did not know in advance it was going to happen, so what kind of controlled experiment was I supposed to do? And it has never happened to me since then. It is rare, it is unpredictable. It is, for all intents and purposes, untestable. But it does happen every so often.
I had an OBE when I was 19. 48 now. No drugs were involved. Wasn't trying to make anything happen. At that point if I had even heard of OBEs I don't remember. Didn't do research on the subject until after the experience. I am going to point out however that I was able to see the position of the sun, experience dew on grass, know where everything in my parents living room wss despite the fact that we never used that room, also experienced a few things I can't put into words. I saw the exact time on the digital clock near my bed and then I guess you could say I woke up (very unpleasant experience) and the time on the clock was 1 minute later than what I had "seen". So go figure. Was it supernatural? No idea. My brain however was in my body in my bedroom and "I" was in my parents living room, outside of the house, then quick stops to another couple rooms before getting "back in". Only term I can think of sorry. Can't explain it. Have had many vivid dreams in my life and this felt nothing at all like that. Would I like to repeat it? Nope. Scary experience for me especially being young and knowing nothing about what had happened. I've never been the same person since then. For the better actually. Make me look at life from a different perspective. Don't have any other answers except what happened to me. I guess that is my story.
Rusty, don't take anything Koolaid posted personal. It's just not possible for some to accept what they can't see or touch. Which is quite ironic when you think about it! But that's another story. I actually had a spontaneous OBE when I was teenager. I wasn't high or any drugs and what I saw during my experience was confirmed. I never experienced anything like it before my experience and I have never experienced it since. I guess you could say it was this experience that placed me on the path of researching experiences such as this. My conclusion? The OBE/NDE is a very real experience and there is something more than just the physical. Quantum mechanics shows that our consciousness plays a prominent role in our so-called reality and may actually be the ground state of existence. In other words, the only real thing may be consciousness! Understanding this makes such experiences more understandable and believable.
@RustyTube. Thank you for sharing this. It is always irksome in life to listen to people speaking about many things they have had NO EXPERIENCE of whatsoever. Especially in regard to OBEs and NDEs. Collectively, in time, as we share, we can come to a better personal interpretation of what is really happening whilst seeing through deceptions. Perhaps we are not meant to truly know. Perhaps we are not ready for the truth, thus the veil(s). It is quite something to realise that people's beliefs/programming profoundly affect their NDE experiences. Who is doing the programming? Who is in control of the programming to aid the transition away from the body or back into it and why? We each have our own personal programmed and non-programmed private thoughts about these questions.
I had a NDE of my own. While it was happening, I remember thinking that what I was experiencing must be my brain trying to make sense of what was happening to my body as it was shutting down. And I could see parallels to my experience in NDE stories I'd previously read about, and how the phenomenon could be interpreted by others as religious experiences. All of which, admittedly, was a lot to think about as I felt myself falling in slow motion and hearing the ER nurse shouting "Crash!'. Then - white light, out of body experience and more. I was agnostic before, and atheist after. The final door to religiosity had slammed. It was very liberating.
I "believe" that a person's sensory perceptors can misfire when the brain is starved for oxygen and struggling to make sense of what is going on around him. I do not believe that what is perceived is any kind of evidence for heaven or an afterlife. Based on what I experienced, I can see how a less analytical mind might accept the supernatural as a viable explanation. As for myself, I did not lean toward heaven's gate.
What did you exactly experience in your NDE? I think if it would be a misfering by our brain, the memories of the NDE would be faulty and a bit chaotic due to the lack of oxygene and the stress of your brain. They have done an other study and used the test called Memory Characteristics Questionnaire which is also used to verifiy the authencity of a memory and they found out that those memories are very real ones. I think the lack of memory only explain a part of a NDE like the tunnel vision for example, but not the rest of it, a NDE is very complex phenomenon. Lack of oxygene still doesn't explain how some people can describe what for example other doctors said or what they wore. How seeing and hearing without eyes and ears, especially when your brain actitivity is zero and even if we were not aware that there is maybe still an activity, that couldn't explain how people could see or hear something. I am not saying that there is an evidence of NDE or a heavon or afterlife, but the explanations like a lack of oxygene and so on, doesn't explain the whole NDE thing.
I hate to break this to you but you are still agnostic. You always were, and will be. Everyone is. Saying you are agnostic is meaningless. LOL Agnostic only refers to knowledge.
I once had an NDE when I passed out during a blood extraction. Then reality proved it wrong to me... The day of the blood extraction I hadn't been to this particular hospital in years and didn't know my way around. As I approached the building, I went around two sides of the building that were all brick wall on the outside (important detail for later). The entrances of the building are not all on the same level and I had to take the elevator to the lab from the floor I entered on. In the chair I sat in for the extraction there was a window behind me. They needed 5 viles of blood and they just changed out the viles on the same needle without taking it out of my arm. About the time they started the second vile I just passed out and instantly I was floating in the air above and behind myself, outside the window looking at my body. I could see the brick wall around the window, I could see I was floating at least one floor off the ground, I could feel the breeze and the sun on my back and I could smell the fresh air. Then, as suddenly as my "out of body' self had appeared outside the window I suddenly shot forward back into my body and I woke up with a forward jolt, feeling as if my out of body self had knocked my body forward. The needle was still in my arm and I was lucky to only get a nasty bruise. Now I've always been a skeptic and a very vivid dreamer, I've experienced physical touch and smell in dreams before so I was skeptical but this still had me wondering... until the next time I had to go to the lab. This time I went in the lab entrance instead of through the hospital and by the lab entrance I noticed the lab is on the ground floor and the walls around the windows are not brick. My brain just made up that scenario because I saw brick walls on my way in and wasn't sure which floor I was on.
Dude, so one time in 7th grade I fell asleep on my bed while studying and I had an out of body experience. I was at the foot of my bed, looking at my sleeping body. I looked down at my body while the real one was on the bed and freaked out. I could see the books and stuffed animals exactly where I've put them. It was freaky, and I've never had another experience like that.
My uncle had a kidney transplant in the mid-late 70's. Back when these things were fairly new and extremely dangerous (they gave him only 5 years to live even if it was succesful, but he managed almost 10). He "died" for a minute or so. Which is fairly routine as far as I understand, that someone's heart might stop for a short while during major surgery. He claimed from that day that he went down a tunnel towards a white light. And at the end he saw someone standing at a fence on the edge of a never-ending field. Someone who looked somewhat like his dad, my grandfather, who had died not too long before. I never believed he had seen anything supernatural. Even as a young child. But I believe something happened to his brain. And this made him feel like he experienced something amazing. I never called him out on it, or even questioned him too much. He felt better because of his belief. He wasn't really religious or anything. But his dad had died in the last couple of years, at a pretty young age even for those days (50). So he felt better believing his dad was waiting for him. Especially seeing as he knew his days were already numbered after the transplant.
I'm the farthest thing from an expert, but for whatever my thoughts are worth, I always figured near-death experiences were basically dreams. Maybe being almost dead is similar in some ways to being asleep, so when you almost die your brain starts dreaming, and everyone knows that dreams are often about things that are on your mind around the time you had them, and when you're having a near-death experience, what's on your mind is "Shit! I just died!", so what your brain comes up with is whatever you've been told happens when you die.
Hmmm… So when the brain senses low oxygen levels, it becomes highly active in order to stimulate imagery and sensory functions as a survival mechanism?🤔
@@pvt.jamesramirez6249 I'm not asking for your trust. However, certain types of epilepsy are know to cause hallucinations and an out of body experience- it's actually a defining feature of temporal lobe epilepsy, so it's not an extraordinary claim to make.
@@pvt.jamesramirez6249 First it's important to know that everyone experiences seizures differently. What one person feels during a seizure may be completely different from what another person feels. When I start to have a seizure it's like I get sucked out of my body and I'm hovering over myself but still looking forward. It also feels like I'm falling into a pit and everything gets slightly fuzzy with a black haze around it. My body is frozen so I can't speak but I can still hear other people. Their voices go in and out and echo like we're in a cave and their faces grow bigger and smaller. If I try really hard I can stay focused on where I am, but if I can't then my mind slips into a dream world. When someone sees the seizure happening, I just look like I'm staring into space, but in my mind I'm having all kinds of visions, pretty much exactly like a dream except it's always a bad dream. And also like a dream, it's usually really hard to remember what I saw once I'm out of it. Then when the seizure is ending, it feels like I'm transported back into my body, where I sit down and settle in, and then everything fades back into focus.
just me Hmm. Doesn’t really sound like an OBE you’d get from an NDE. NDE OBEs always have a clear perception of what’s going on in the room, and have absolutely no sense of confusion or panic whatsoever. You’re OBE sounds like absolute confusion, panic, and no ability to perfectly recall what was going on in the room/setting around you.
The truth about NDE's is that Koolaid has no idea what he is talking about. The old and tired objections of a lack of oxygen, electrical stimulation to a part of the brain, DMT, Ketamine and other drugs. Those objections have been carefully refuted.
Dude this guy has been debunked look at www.near-death.com/philosophy/skepticism/skeptic-hoax-nde-and-fraud-exposed.html and the fact that hes name is "Holy Koolaid" just screams immature and childish........
@@loke2860 You claim Holy Koolaid is childish when your "Kevin Williams" included Westbrook's thank you message to his patrons as an "argument" and then proceeded to bitch about Westbrook making money off of his youtube channel. To top it all off this is on a website that advertises mysticism crap and includes pseudoscience as well.
I really love the video, but it's worth noting that dreams actually do occur every time for essentially every person. It's just uncommon for us to remember them.
I have an anecdote for you of my own, one of my many stories of weird things. I flatlined in the hospital about 15 years ago after attempting suicide with a massive dose of morphine (before I left the Wiccan religion). I didn't float out of my body or see a tunnel and light. I sunk down and out. Everything went stark white the way things look during a blizzard. Then I was standing/ floating in this weird place surrounded by other dead people just milling around. When I woke up, I figured I'd just had an opiate induced hallucination, until my friend told me I'd flatlined for a few moments. I feel rather ripped off and alone, why didn't I get the light and the tunnel? Why didn't I get to float away? 🤔 I have never found another anecdote like my own. I have talked to others who said they've flatlined. Several experienced a black nothing, one floated into space and met aliens, another met Jesus and Yogananda. Maybe we experience weird hallucinations when we start to die and some experience nothing at all? If it is death, perhaps the experience is different for each of us. The only thing I came away with was that we might not just blink out completely after we die. I also realized that Wicca was toxic for me and it was time to leave. So I did. I don't get suicidal anymore. So that's positive, right?
I remembered my religious teacher who took a master's degree and his main research was on NDE. Said that he interviewed many people on their NDEs and smugly told me that these claims were evidences of god's existence. With a mind riddled with catholicism, its hard to argue with him. He wouldnt let me talk and when I do, he's quick in cutting me off. Hahaha he's clearly uncomfortble with me but he's pretending that he's open minded and friendly towrds me. By the end of the sem, he asked students what they have learned. Being good ol' catholic boys and grls, some said, they even have more faith in god because of me! Ha! The irony! I was clearly contradicting the teacher and I even gave him a copy of a video from richard dawkins. He told me the whole class would watch it but he never did let us see it! Well, so much for trying. And even more surprisingly, he gave me 99 on my final grade. I couldnt be more happy and confused at the same time🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️😆😆😆
As someone who grew up Catholic, but is no longer a believer, this really isn't that confusing, from my perspective at least. While the Catholic Church is rooted in tradition and conservatism, most members that I've encountered aren't quite as zealous and intolerant as, say, the folks you see yelling at you on the street or from a TV screen. They have strong faith, but will usually treat nonbelievers and adherents of other faiths fairly (such as, for example, your teacher giving you the grade your work warranted). I know, personally, even when I was a true believer, I wouldn't have dreamed of mistreating anyone who believed differently, and the priest overseeing the congregation would have been mortified if I did. Of course, this is all anecdotal, and there are Catholics who are just as bad as the average televangelist, but maybe your teacher's behavior was merely a result of the conflict between his strong faith and his perception of himself as open-minded.
CelticMarauder I'm guessing the earned grade was 100%, and the teacher docked one point to teach the student to be humble and follow doctrine. Either grade results in 4.0 points, but one isn't perfect, like the Amish deliberately denting their handmade furniture (although, I see this as being contradictory to the intended meaning, as the piece would never have been perfect to begin with and it takes hubris to think that one would need to damage an item to remain humble....but they are religious, thus irrational.) I grew up Catholic and have had a couple uncles leave with their families to become Southern Baptist, as Catholicism was no longer fanatical enough. Madness.
People who are dying have no strength to lie. I worked as a CNA and there was a woman who told me a interesting thing. She was dying of cancer and told me this. She told me that she could see what seemed like people to her. Now this woman was still in her right mind. She told me that she could see angels working then she said the the only reason she could see them is because she was closer to them i was.
They are not just anecdotes. There is proof when someone hears conversations from other rooms. People explain details about relatives they met in heaven whom they never met in this life. You say it's never been proven under a controlled setting but there are thousands of confirmed proven cases.
Another well and constructed from you. Just because people make these accounts, it definitely doesn't make their stories credible. It definitely is all constructed from thoughts and experiences just like dreams. You and Cosmic Skeptic are definitely amongst my favourite atheist TH-camrs. Keep up the good work!
Mims Zanadunstedt He's a very good atheist TH-camr and constructs very logical arguments for many things. His knowledge and intellectual superiority are heavily evident. I suggest you look him up to find out more as you won't be disappointed.
All NDE's and out of body experiences happen from clinical death. No one has come back from biological death. I remain curious but skeptical. I lost a good friend to cancer in 2001. A few months before he passed away permanently, he hemorrhaged, and was clinically dead for several minutes, and described his own NDE, where he described that "I felt like I was with Earth, but Earth wasn't with me". I was curious and wanted to keep asking questions about it, but I stayed off topic, as the situation was stressful enough, and just continued to render good company and comfort.
In the video, it is claimed, "Not one case of veridical NDEs has ever been confirmed under a scientifically controlled setting." This is incorrect. In the AWARE study, which he mentions in the video, one case of veridical perception (VP) was confirmed under a scientifically controlled setting. Of the 2,060 cardiac patients in the study, only 140 survived and were well enough to have an interview. Of these 140, there were 39 who were not able to complete the second interview, mostly due to fatigue. Of the 101 patients able to interviewed, only 9 were deemed to have had an NDE (9%) and of these 9 NDErs, only two reported memories of auditory/visual awareness of the physical environment. Of these two, one was not able to follow up with an in-depth third interview due to ill health. The other patient had VPs while in cardic arrest: (1) During the NDE, the patient felt quite euphoric; (2) The patient heard an automated voice saying, "Shock the patient, shock the patient;" (3) The patient rose near the ceiling and looked down on his physical body, the nurse and another man, bald and "quite a chunky fella," who wore blue scrubs and a blue hat. The patient could tell the man was bald because of where the hat was; (4) The next day, the patient recognized the bald man who attended him during the resuscitation; (5) The medical record confirmed the use of an AED (Automated External Defibrillator) that would give the automated instructions the patient heard and the role that the identified man played during the resuscitation. To assess the accuracy of claims of VP, 50 to 100 shelves were installed in each hospital (15 of them) near the ceiling of areas where cardiac arrest resuscitation was likely to occur. Each shelf had an image that was visible only from above the shelf. The study's hypothesis was that the images on the shelves could potentially test the validity of VP, provided enough cases of NDEs. The study's authors concluded that: (a) In some cases of cardiac arrest, memories of visual awareness compatible with so called out-of-body experiences may correspond with actual events; (b) A number of NDErs may have vivid death experiences, but do not recall them due to the effects of brain injury or sedative drugs on memory circuits; (c) The recalled VP experience surrounding death merits a genuine investigation without prejudice. Concerning that one case of VP, it was validated and timed using auditory stimuli during cardiac arrest. Dr. Sam Parnia concluded, "This is significant, since it has often been assumed that these experiences are likely hallucinations or illusions, occurring either before the heart stops or after the heart has been successfully restarted, but not an experience corresponding with 'real' events when the heart isn't beating. In this case, consciousness and awareness appeared to occur during a three-minute period when there was no heartbeat. This is paradoxical, since the brain typically ceases functioning within 20-30 seconds of the heart stopping and doesn’t resume again until the heart has been restarted. Furthermore, the detailed recollections of visual awareness in this case were consistent with verified events.
Unconscious brains do not "see weird shit" or anything. The brains of people who are unconscious from cardiac arrest are not supposed to produce anything. Dr. Peter Fenwick, a neuropsychiatrist and the leading authority in Britain concerning NDEs, described the state of the brain during an NDE: "The brain isn't functioning. It's not there. It's abnormal. But, yet, it [during NDEs] can produce these very clear experiences ... an unconscious state is when the brain ceases to function. For example, if you faint, you fall to the floor, you don't know what's happening and the brain isn't working. The memory systems are particularly sensitive to unconsciousness. So, you won't remember anything. But, yet, after one of these experiences [an NDE], you come out with clear, lucid memories ... This is a real puzzle for science. I have not yet seen any good scientific explanation which can explain that fact."
I had what some would call a NDE almost 25 years ago. What I saw was a tunnel of light, very bright, not much more when I flatlined following a military HALO jump. It's nothing more than the brain doing entertaining things as it attempts to not shutdown due to a lack of O2, at least that's the way that it was explained to me and it makes sense.
I also had an NDE. A motorcycle accident due to a car driver not seeing me. I got a look in his car as my face went through his window, and put a couple of dents in his door and roof with my hand and leg respectively. I probably would have died, had not an off duty nurse just happened to be walking along the street at that moment. This meant I had medical attention almost before I finished bouncing. As I lay on the road, I felt myself drift off into the air. I always just put it down to my mind shutting out the pain receptors as some kind of internal defence from the pain. Anyway, I made a full recovery with nothing more than a few scars on my hand and an impressive scar on my leg.
When i had sepsis, i could feel my brain shutting down bit by bit as i got worse. My brain was playing me music, i lost the ability to see very fast, and initially i could still feel what was going on, then it stopped hurting, then i couldn't feel anything, but could still hear for some time. Just before everything goes blank until waking up a few days later, evrything was brightly lit, and felt like i was at home, briefly (at least in my memory) before nothingness. It certainly felt very unusual, and kinda pleasant in a way, but there arent words in english to describe it well. I can understand anyone who interprets that as a religious or spiritual experience. I did, briefly. Until university, where studying physiology, anatomy, and pharmacology gave me far better explainations of my experiance.
I can say that this is how the dying process is said to go. Hearing is the last to go, which is why family members are encouraged to keep talking to their loved one til the end, even when they stop physically responding.
I nearly drowned during a church event (it was the last day and we were all out canoing). The boat my sister and I were in capsized in this sharp bend where the water sucked downward (I think it's called an eddy but I could be wrong) and I went under. Last thing I remembered was feeling completely calm, looking up at the sunlight dappling through the leaves on the slightly-rippling surface as everything faded to black. Next thing I knew my lungs and throat were burning like crazy and I was gasping for air while one of the elders knelt over me (his boat had come by just in time and he performed CPR on me) and I was _furious_ at the fact I woke up. When I told my dad this, he brushed my experience as me simply losing consciousness because if I had actually come close to death I would've seen Heaven like he did.
The best case of verified out-of-body perception during an NDE that meets all the criteria for whole brain death is the case of Pam Reynolds. Pam's extraordinary NDE occurred while she underwent a rare surgical procedure called a "standstill" to remove a brain aneurysm. The procedure required her to: (1) become unconscious by use of an anesthetic; (2) have her body temperature lowered to 60 degrees; (3) have her heart and breathing stopped; (4) have her brain waves allowed to flatten; and (5) have all the blood drained from her head. Under these conditions, conscious awareness should be medically impossible. Yet, while Pam was in this condition, she later reported how she floated out of her body and watched the doctors operate on her lifeless body. She was able to describe in specific detail the surgical instruments, the conversations among the physicians, and the procedures performed on her during her surgery. She was reunited with deceased loved ones in heaven and was reluctant to return to her body. Pam's ability to see and hear events while out of her body which were later verified to be true is phenomenon that occurs in many NDE and is called "veridical perception." You can read the entire account by Googling this: "People have near-death experiences while brain dead" and there are many examples of this. Google this: "Out-of Body Experiences and the Near-Death Experience" verified
The "shit" that you say her mind "made up" while she was in whole brain death was verified to have actually occurred. It's called veridical out-of-body perception. The minds of brain dead people normally don't function at all. They are brain dead. Yet Pam Reynolds "saw" shit while out of her body that was later verified to have occurred such as detailed conversations among the surgeons, the surgical procedures and instruments, and the sounds in the OR. And while brain dead, she had vivid visions of an NDE. No other case of a brain dead person under scientific controls has every reported having mental experiences -- let alone veridical out-of-body perceptions. Google "People have near-death experiences while brain dead" to read the legit evidence. But I am certain you won't because you obviously didn't read the entire comment above.
Wait wait wait... your evidence for NDE is Pam, who heard conversations in the room she was in, and saw equipment... in the room she was in... Color me impressed. Sorry - the opposite of that: From wikipedia. "Anesthesiologist Gerald Woerlee analyzed the case, and concluded that Reynolds' ability to perceive events during her surgery was the result of "anesthesia awareness".[5] According to the psychologist Chris French: Woerlee, an anesthesiologist with many years of clinical experience, has considered this case in detail and remains unconvinced of the need for a paranormal explanation... [He] draws attention to the fact that Reynolds could only give a report of her experience some time after she recovered from the anesthetic as she was still intubated when she regained consciousness. This would provide some opportunity for her to associate and elaborate upon the sensations she had experienced during the operation with her existing knowledge and expectations. The fact that she described the small pneumatic saw used in the operation also does not impress Woerlee. As he points out, the saw sounds like and, to some extent, looks like the pneumatic drills used by dentists"
She was brain dead at the time, her eyes were taped shut, and her ears were plugged. Now explain it. www.near-death.com/science/evidence/people-have-ndes-while-brain-dead.html
Here are my observations: 1. NDEs show overwhelming cultural bias, i.e Christians meet Jesus/God, Hindus see Shiva, Vishnu, etc., but I never seen someone claim an NDE contradicting their entire previous life, except for militant Christian converts from Islam (and no other religion) 2. NDEs are 'learned experiences'. We SEE what we have been told ANECDOTALLY we will see - flowers, lights, a bridge, angels, etc. 3. People who have died have brains that are still processing information, sense, etc after respiration stops. REsuscitation allows the brain to tell you what you sensed, such as voices of doctors. 4. Everyone seems to go to their version of heaven, or at least NOT hell. Is everyone going to heaven? Do only 'good' people have NDEs? What gives? Just my observations.
I have a hard time understanding why anybody finds NDEs mysterious. We dream and hallucinate when we sleep, hallucinate sometimes when we’re awake. Why is it “mysterious” to observe that we have vivid dreams sometimes when we’re dying? It’s just your brain’s imagination.
@@Thomzz95 I have never had an NDE, but I have reviewed many incidences of NDEs. Here's my thoughts on the difference between a dream and an NDE. As you said, people claim their NDE "felt more real than anything". When they regain consciousness, they swear it was real and that it happened. Okay, I can tell you that my dreams seem as real as real can be. Very real. But when I awake, I know that the things I dreamt about did not happen and it was only a dream. What a marvelous thing, to dream and wonder and hope.
The part that virtually disproves NDE´s is that they are socio-cultural phenomena. Christians meet Jesus, Hindus meet Vishnu, Muslims meet Gabriel or Mohammed etc. And the real fun part is, if you ask Christians to describe the Jesus they met, it´s always the super-white, blue-eyed, blond-bearded Jesus Christ Superstar, that the church made up for white Europeans and that became even whiter when exported to America. Not a single of them reported having "met" a Jesus that could have existed with dark brown/olive skin, dark brown eyes and black hair.
Yeah, as others have stated, you've gone from "organised religion is nonsense" to "there are no non-physical phaenomena". And you've cherry-picked your examples, and discounted all counter-examples, to prove it. Lazy, not good enough.
he is simply following a unified worldview which is evidence-based, backed by science with repeatable results, and properly skeptical about supernatural claims, all of which do not fall into said category. the NDE link to people's unfounded belief in afterlife myths is certainly correlated to his main subject matter and he's properly researched claims that actually have scientific backing and those that do not, presented here. go ahead and counter any of his particular assertions made here if you have substantial counter-arguments to them, but making a blanket statement about him because you got personally offended does nothing of substance really.
I made one out of a scarf folded in half like a triangle with magnets stitched between the two layers. Then I tied it on my head. After a few hours my head was a little sore from all the hard lumps pushing on it, and I had a little headache, probably from the extra weight. But I felt very creative thinking out how I could make my own magnet headwear--before I made it. Checkmate, skeptics!
When I was a kid I got trapped under water and as I was feeling like I really needed to breath I saw a pinpoint of light getting bigger and bigger. Brightest white light I ever saw. I heard my mom scream "where's Marissa?!" And then my brother pulled my out of the water. I never died, just was losing oxygen. This tells me that a lot of what people experience in NDEs are from the brain dying.
life after death is real.... because consciousness is real....its something that scientists do not yet know..but the thing is, life after death has no Heaven or Hell or God...its a spiritual matter of Consciousness
@@ParadiseLordRyu obviously you do not know the nature of pure awareness...... life to you may be useless random creation and brain chemistry... life is not merely physical what we see but non physical manifesting into reality. ...the thing is you don't need to understand what i say, life will happen eventually 🙂 peace ☮️
This video just cherry picks NDE's that may not have been genuine whilst completely ignoring some very credable ones because it didnt suit the biased video. I'll give Koolaid one thing, he makes well edited videos that are interesting, but as for a balanced recount of what an NDE is, or trying to find NDE's that dont suit his argument, they are non existent here.
This is a subject that has been of interest to me for some time, and quite recently, I have been actively seeking out the opinions of skeptics online, in order to ascertain for myself a "full picture" of what I actually believe. I liked this video, overall, although have a few detracting thoughts (and a caveat). First, the caveat: --I believe that "past life regression therapy" is the weakest evidence of an "afterlife" or a "continued consciousness" for a number of reasons, and used to think that NDE research could be similarly discounted (I subscribed, as you seem to, to the "dying brain goes into panic mode" explanation). I think now that my trepidation had much to do with my sources (Raymond Moody, among them), and have since discovered Dr. Bruce Greyson, whose research is quite a bit more convincing than is Moody's. I am still unconvinced that NDE's are anything spiritual or para-psychological, but do not as readily subscribe to the "dying brain" theory as I once did. So, I think it is safe for me to assert that I approach this particular topic thoughtfully, without having made any "leap to faith." Now, the criticisms: 1. You seem to assert that NDEs are hallucinations that are highly personal to the experiencer, that everybody experiences something vastly different, and that if there were more to them, there would be consistency and corroboration in the reports. This logic is deeply flawed. *Yes* culture does almost certainly impact what experiencers "see," but divorced from cultural symbolism in the NDEs, the accounts are remarkably consistent from independent actors who never knew each other and would never have had the opportunity to corroborate/conspire. Dr. Greyson developed a scale (found here: iands.org/research/nde-research/important-research-articles/698-greyson-nde-scale.html) to gauge common elements of the NDE and has found through much research that the majority of experiencers fall substantially upon the scale in their accounts. 2. The criticism of anecdotal evidence is a valid one, and one that has been leveraged upon the Past Life Memories research of Drs. Stevenson and Tucker, as well. I would posit that one personal account can be easily dismissed as anecdotal, but that thousands of accounts reported independently that appear to describe the same phenomenon with great consistency is not anecdotal, and deserving of further scientific inquiry. Any rationally minded individual, I believe, would agree with me. 3. The idea that DMT may explain NDEs is an interesting one, but is not currently supported by science. Specifically, DMT is not known to be produced naturally in the pineal gland, so the assertion that it is remains plausible, but ultimately speculative (www.psypost.org/2018/01/no-reason-believe-pineal-gland-alters-consciousness-secreting-dmt-psychedelic-researcher-says-50609). Further research indicates that while DMT might mimic *some* of the common elements of an NDE, it does not mimic all of the common elements on Greyson's scale with any reliability: www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/out-the-darkness/201810/near-death-experiences-and-dmt To quote: "Of the 16 items in the NDE scale used in the study, 9 items showed a high degree of ‘crossover.' These included an ‘unearthly environment,’ a sense of peace, heightened senses, harmony/unity, altered time perception, feeling of joy, bright light, and so on. However, all 9 of these characteristics are generally associated with ‘spiritual’ or ‘mystical’ experiences, rather than just NDEs. It is well known that NDEs have a strong spiritual or mystical element to them, which is partly why they have such a powerful life-changing effect. But NDEs are not just spiritual experiences. And significantly, the 7 items in this study where there was the least crossover between NDEs and DMT were those which differentiate NDEs from standard spiritual experiences." 4. At the risk of making an appeal to authority, there are plenty in the medical community that find the "dying brain" hypothesis dubious. Some have experienced NDEs themselves, most notably, Dr. Eben Alexander, a neurosurgeon. Dr. Mary C. Neal, an orthopedic surgeon is another. And you cherry-picked your data from respected researchers such as van Lommel (www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(01)07100-8/fulltext) and Parnia, neither of whom (to my knowledge) have proposed either the "dying brain" or the "expectancy model" as the be-all/end-all to NDEs. This is not to say that they are not-- they might be, and I think they are as plausible of explanations as any other. The facts are, though, that NDEs do remain inexplicable in conventional neuroscience, and I would caution that we should not be immediately dismissive of the phenomenon as explicable. The difficulty with this type of "research", of course, is the inability to replicate the research with a control, as well as to measure the phenomenon in real time with medical instruments. We are simply not there yet, on either front, unfortunately. This should rightly cause apprehension among both "skeptics" and "believers"-- neither should jump in on absolute evidence that is simply not there.
Excellent response! I would also like to point out the research of Dr. Kenneth Ring in his books Life at Death and Mindsight: Near-Death and Out-of-Body Experiences in the Blind. Dr. Ring was a co-founder of IANDS.
Circa 1977 I had an OOBE in a movie theatre in Dayton Ohio. The movie was very boring. I floated up to the rafters in the theatre. It is pretty easy to IMAGINE what the theatre would look like from the rafters. I just inserted that imagination, like a dream, into my reality projection. It could literally have been a dream. I said to myself "What the heck" and instantly I was back in my body.
A centrifuge is not how fighter pilots experience the affects of hypoxia, it is where they acclimate themselves to g-force. Pilots (and divers as well) are shown the affects of hypoxia by entering a vacuum chamber where the oxygen is removed slowly and the subject is asked to perform tasks that illustrate the affect.
I had an NDE, except that I experienced...nothing. The same as being heavily sedated for surgery, no sense of even time. As is oft pointed out, the most important word in Near Death Experience, is NEAR. My father drowned in the Philippines during WWII. He was out for a while before regaining consciousness. During that time he had a super vivid vision in which he claims to have seen heaven. He has lived his life certain that he will go to heaven when he dies. I think that is why he never questioned his cruelty or self obsession. He assumes he is bound for heaven and that means he is a good guy, no matter what he does. If he does a thing, it must be good. It is interesting how large and frankly determining role is played by cultural expectations. People who are part of different cultures see different things in an NDE, depending upon their cultural expectations. People in Japan often see paradise as a bright shining futuristic city with mile high highways and shiney futuristic automobiles. My father is certain that the reason I experienced nothing when my heart stopped briefly, in a hospital, because I am an atheist. He now believes that atheists experience real death. He was glad to believe that at least I wasn't going to hell. I think Holy Koolaid does an excellent job of covering this issue.
@Frankie Basile No such thing has happened. The visions people have will depend upon their expectations. Japanese people see a radically different version of paradise. There have been numerous studies where numbers and sometimes odd objects are put in a place where they can not be seen from the floor. Those things were placed in operating rooms where heart surgery was performed and in recovery rooms for heart surgery patients. they studied a number of people who had the near death experience. There are no documented cases of anyone seeing anything they should not have seen. There was one woman who seemed to have done it, describing a shoe on a roof that could not be seen from the operating room. She later admitted she had seen the tennis shoe on the roof from the window of another ward she had been in and indeed, it could be seen from the room she had been in previously. You are not dead when those visions happen but you are close and your brain is freaking out. A lot of claims have been made but none properly documented. The key word in NDE is Near.
@Frankie Basile that is a family story, an anecdote that is not proof of anything. memory is a strange creature and stories change with time without the teller even noticing. It has never been documented in a controlled environment.
NDE is only experience in about 10-20% of people, nobody denies it. According to Sam Parnia, an NDE researcher, you might have had it, but forgot it after. And also, according to him, people generally see the same stuff, but later interpret it on the basis of their own religion, all it took to find out was to inquire a bit more, then most of them say they only assumed they met Jesus, God etc.
Sigh. I just want to thank you for this video. As a former Christian I feel like saying “God bless you” (force of habit). Honestly, you’re just the best and painfully underrated.
I think it's more fascinating how you can influence someone's brain with a near death experience from a special helmet, than angels supposedly visiting you when you almost die.
Even if NDE phenomena are a product of the human nervous system and cultural factors, it does not necessarily preclude a potential (non-NDE) afterlife experience of some kind. As Sagan observed, "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." Truth is, we simply do not know. I favor a skeptical but ultimately agnostic view here. Anything else seems pretentious and biased.
David Pohlman But ehen an entire ideaoligy/opinion is based on "well just belive in it" or "my mom friend of a friend of a cousin of this guy said he heard someone saw Jesusnona toast", You cant have the privilge of being called a legit opinion.
I'm Wiccan, and that's pretty much the concept for a great many of ppl in our faith...that when you pass, you go where you expect to go. This means that if a person is an atheist, if they expect to simply cease to exist, that that's what will occur. It's kind of along the same lines of the Islamic concept of the afterlife for the faithful... Janna(Paradise)..that what or who the believer wishes to be there, will be there.
Like I suspected, before I even viewed this video I intuitively knew that you had never experienced a NDE yourself. So essentially you are talking out of your ass, about things you have no real experience with. I on the other hand have experienced quite a few NDEs in my life. Multiple things I lived through that all known medical science says I should be dead many times over again. Nice cherry picking with the NDE examples and research you showed to btw to support your naturalistic world view that you obviously have a predisposition to. Thank you for shedding some light on why it is that so many atheists have such an obvious fear of the "supernatural" being proven to be real. I make this accusation based on evidence. Your very admissions at the end of this video for starters. World famous Atheistic scientist Lawrence Krauss has stated in a number of interviews, panel board discussions and debates that he doesn't want to live in a universe where God exists, that the thought of God's existence and anything supernatural is depressing for him. Krauss is one of many atheistic scientists that have said and made similar statements. Thank you for showing and proving to me that I am well justified to not trust a single word that comes out of any atheist mouth, or any scientific published paper that any atheist has published. Until atheists at large as a whole community start expressing themselves in ways that prove and show that you are actually open minded and objective about the possibility that the supernatural is real, and that you would even welcome that and see it as an amazing, wondrous thing that would benefit everyone if and when the supernatural can be proven to be a thing, I will go on (as I suspect most Christians will) not trusting atheists at all. In other words atheists if you want theistic minded people to take you seriously, and you desire for us to see you as good people who are just doing their best to make sense out of this thing we call life and reality, then I suggest you start being a lot more open minded regarding supernatural claims, because whether you know it or not you are being highly disrespectful, rude, insulting, and offensive.
+COSMIC Phoenix i like how you couldnt actually refute the contents of his video; all that you did was attack atheists. thats pretty rude dont ya think? can you explain the problems with the research? what was wrong with his examples? "thank you for showing and proving to me that I am well justified to not trust a single word that comes out of any atheist mouth, or any scientific published paper that any atheist has published." so if your doctor says that hes an atheist, your just going to ignore all of his medical advice? you're just going to do the opposite of what your atheist mechanic tells you to do? if an atheist says "eating rat poison is dangerous" your going to eat it anyway? thats extremely irrational, why dont you actually read the research to see if its valid? i dont dismiss doctors for being Christian. i dont agree with Ben Carson at all,but i wouldnt have a problem with him operating on me. "Until atheists at large as a whole community start expressing themselves in ways that prove and show that you are actually open minded and objective about the possibility that the supernatural is real. and that you would even welcome that and see it as an amazing, wondrous thing that would benefit everyone if and when the supernatural can be proven to be a thing" ever heard of an agnostic atheist? most atheists are open to the possibility of an afterlife existing,but we arent convinced that it exists yet. why would we welcome it as an amazing thing if it hasnt been proven to exist yet? why would i say " the afterlife is a place of magic and wonder" if i never even saw it? it could be a good thing or a bad thing. it depends on the type of afterlife, and it depends on the type of supernatural beings. "In other words atheists if you want theistic minded people to take you seriously, and you desire for us to see you as good people who are just doing their best to make sense out of this thing we call life and reality, then I suggest you start being a lot more open minded regarding supernatural claims" so are you expecting me to believe every single claim that i hear? sorry thats not going to happen. there's a difference between being open minded and being gullible. im not going to automatically believe a supernatural claim because i need to see the evidence first.
Funnily enough Sam Parnia’s study in case with the cards there was actually one OBE who recalled it but how convenient how u left that out the video huh 😁 Also Sam Parnia himself seems to imply that there is a consciousness after death.
2:18 That they are. There are some aspects that are universal such,but others are determined by your beliefs, culture, environment or emotions, sometimes directly, sometimes indirectly practically with children. Even then some people see nothing but darkness.
Ironically, it might be theoretically possible to experience "eternal life after death" - kinda - due to the death throws that the brain goes through at death. We know that our sense/perception of time is a product of the brain. So if the time perception part of our brain malfunctions in just the right way during an NDE before death, then it should be possible to experience what could seem like an eternal afterlife, during the few minutes that it takes for us to completely die.
Yeah but you might not really be aware of that fact just as we aren't aware that we're dreaming while we're dreaming - most times, at least. Perception is reality.
Nice hypothesis! The only problem is, there is no time perception part of the brain. We only experience time in the forward direction because of entropy, not because there is a special place within the brain that controls how we experience time. Especially since time as we understand really doesn't exist! And no two people experience time in the same way. Time is relative. And eternal means just that, eternal. It doesn't end when the brain dies. Otherwise how could it be eternal?
But why are so many peoples 'describing heaven' at all? If it's merely hallucination your brain can hallucinate ANYTHING, yet near death experiences consistently report similarly themed scenarios that describe conditions of life after death. If it was hallucination the experiences would surely be as random as dreams? why are so many people reporting meeting dead relatives and personalities from religious traditions, having life reviews, experiencing expanded consciousness and learning similar lessons?
When I was 14 me and my friends saw transparent figure fairly close running left to right in slow motion, becoming more transparent with every run. The figures disappeared during mid-run. They were four of who saw this. It an assumption that ghost are people who are past away, but we don't know for sure.
2 Big flaws. #1. People who hallucinate do not come back from the hallucination and live their lives totally different. And no longer have a fear of death. #2. The grand majority of NDE'S collaborate the basic details of the experience. If the NDE'S were fabricating this phenomenon, wouldn't they try to outdo each other's stories? In my Christian walk I have never had an NDE. ( thank God). However I have had a lot of experiences with that Holy Spirit realm. So yes there is absolutely no question that many of them are relating true, factual events.
+generalmax "People who hallucinate do not come back from the hallucination and live their lives totally different." they do if theyre convinced that its a sign from a diety. " The grand majority of NDE'S collaborate the basic details of the experience. If the NDE'S were fabricating this phenomenon, wouldn't they try to outdo each other's stories?" he never said that they were all fabricating it. he clearly says "im not saying that these people didnt experience something odd" "However I have had a lot of experiences with that Holy Spirit realm. So yes there is absolutely no question that many of them are relating true, factual events." an anecdote isnt evidence, you have to prove that your claim is true. people from other religions claim to have supernatural experiences that involve their specific beliefs. does this prove that other religions are true? some people claim to be time travelers; some people say that they met alien human hybrids. do you believe these stories as well?
I just discovered you Holy Koolaid, your videos are brilliant, I love how clearly you explain everything, so even people without much education (like myself) can understand it. I am long and huge fan of C.Hitchens, R. Dawkins, Sam Harris, Neil Degrasse Tyson, D. Dennet, Mat Dillahunty, recently I discovered Rationality Rules, and now you. Keep up great job. I forgot to mention James Randi. And Bill Maher of course, among many others. But these are basically people I am inspired by and now you're among them.
I have temporal lobe epilepsy (petit mal/partial seizures). Before I knew the episodes were my brain having an electrical malfunction, I swore my psychoactive thoughts and hallucinations were from god. That was the only explanation that made sense to me at the time.
I've never had a NDE but I've experienced Sleep Paralysis about 10 times and it was very strange feeling like another entity was there however I no way of knowing what the mind is capable of generating and it would be more logical to conclude that the mind is generating such things than malicious spirits are paying you a visit?
In the video, the skeptic argues that all NDEs should be the same if they were real afterlife experiences. He argues they are all so varied and based upon cultural exposure; so therefore, this falsifies NDEs against being real afterlife experiences. But if all NDEs were exactly identical, it would make the "dying brain theory" more appealing. It would show NDEs are only experiences coming from "hard-wired" brains. But because they are different, this shows they are not "hard-wired" experiences, but rather dynamic experiences -- like life in general. NDEs are very similar to lucid dreaming -- an experience of virtual reality where all things are mentally possible. And just as one person's dream is different from another, so do differences between NDEs correspond with reality. NDEs are very private, personal experience - as private as a person's clothes, hair color, language, size, etc. What a person experiences can be attributed to many factors: the NDEr's psychology, personal experiences, background, etc. -- not just culture. One of the truths of the NDE is that each person integrates their NDE into their own preexisting belief system. Everyone is unique and everyone experiences the world in a way that is unique to anyone else in the universe. It is the same with NDEs. Reality exists in the mind of the beholder. In ordinary life, we create our own reality from the actions we take and the thoughts we think inwardly. The NDE appears to be no different.
It's true that some of the "symptoms " of NDE's have been reproduced with certain kinds of brain stimulation. However none of the participants in those experiments were individuals with zero readable brain activity. Since that is a requirement for NDEs one must come to the conclusion that, while interesting, those experiments have no validity in reference to the NDE experience.
The truth of the matter is that none of us know for certain either way until we actually die. Sure, we can all speculate. But by it's very definition, none of us know for certain.
Maybe most of the survivors do not remember the experience? For example we all have dreams and some people recall a dream every morning, whereas others rarely recall one.
Dude this guy has been debunked look at www.near-death.com/philosophy/skepticism/skeptic-hoax-nde-and-fraud-exposed.html and the fact that hes name is "Holy Koolaid" just screams immature and childish........
There are actually movies in telugu, tamil and other languages on the opening yama, his accountant chitragupta making a mistake, sending back people, yeah that's true and I'm Indian hindu who speaks Telugu and have seen such movies.
If this one physical life is all there is then nothing at all makes any sense. We come into this life most of us experiencing more than of our share of hurt, heartache, suffering, and sorrow and then after all this pain and misery, we fade off into oblivion. Why did we come into existence at all? If this the real story then something or somebody has a very sick sense of humor.
You got it. Everything we know has a reason, therefore there is no reason to think that life has none to begin with. The reamaining question would be "what reason/purpose ?" and NDEs make sense in that perspective.
Why did we come into existence at all? Well you see when mommy and daddy love each other very much... didn't your parents have the birds and the bees discussion with you
"Why did we come into existence"? Because there was no alternative. To expand on that let me answer another question that is often asked of Atheists: why is there something rather than nothing? This question assumes that "nothing" could or would exist if God had not created our Universe, but when you look a bit deeper you realize that the existence of "nothing" is an impossibility, and once we accept that the existence of "nothing" is an impossibility, then we must also accept that there was always going to be "something", with or without the help of a god "something" must exist when the existence of "nothing" is impossible. We came into existence because of that "something", and once the ball started rolling, we were always going to exist. It's up to us to make this existence special.
I have personally had a NDE and let me tell you unless you actually experienced it, it is impossible to fathom. Its kind of similar to DMT except its a lot more warm and peaceful. I also know for a fact that I was outside my body because I heard a conversation between my mother and father, both of whom were in another room in the hospital and I was able to remember their conversation about me, they also confirmed their conversation topic was in fact the one I heard, went from an atheist to believer in god basically overnight. And it doesnt matter what anyone says or tries to "prove" me wrong. I was dead, my brain was inactive and the surgeons said there was no signs of brain activity, yet I could experience an hallucination? Doesnt make sense, do some DMT and hopefully you will see a more warm loving path to the afterlife. I learned love is the most important thing in this world, and God has so much of it!
I really doubt the doctors told you there was no brain activity. You wouldn't be here if you were brain dead. No one comes back when their brain is dead. You were under a lot of medication, so not really strange your brain was doing crazy things.
We pretty much understand the natural world. But question here: How can you hear without an ear? You need an ear drum, Neaurons and a brain to hear. How do you interact with vibrating air molecules. How can you interact with photons?
@@rhondahoward8025 It's not as simple as "drugs". Dmt is probably the most insane substance known to man, we don't have a clue on how it works or why people see certain things during it. Even consciousness cannot be proved that it occurs within the brain, there are a lot of things in this world that cannot be explained. Even Nicola Tesla said "The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence".
@@user-cr5yv5ho2i Even if what you say is true, you say you went from atheist to "believer in god basically overnight". Okay, but which God? I'm betting you're gonna say Jesus or something if you're from the Western world. And if you were a Hindu, you probably saw a Hindu God. If you were a Muslim, Allah, etc. But all this really proves is that something STRANGE is happening. Having a crazy experience like that and simplifying it to "Gawd dun it" is still reductive as fuck. Near death experiences are definitely a phenomenon but the whole point is we don't know WHAT they could mean.
Well done.... except for the diarrhea part! I have to admit, when I was still a Theist, this is one of the things I took as proof there is an afterlife. Thanks for sharing this, it is important.
I had a NDE once I was kicked to the floor by a group of people and then strangled, I was floating above looking down on the crowd and I could see myself, Then as quick as I was doing that I felt a pins and needles feeling in my hands and I was back in my body. Even though it felt real to me, I put it down to oxygen deprivation and chemicals in the brain, I was close to death and it was the brains way to ease me into it.
If you end up seeing a flying donkey in your room, that has nothing to do with seeing and observing something that happen in a Total different room that can be verified, later as something that really happened, because a flying donkey is not real it's a Hallucination. But seeing a conversation or something else for that matters is not a Hallucination because it happens in the real world, and if it happens in the real world and others can verified and see this also as happening in real world, it's not a Hallucination because Hallucination is only in your mind not in the minds of others, if i say the moon is made of cheese you might call me a idioot because you know it isn't true, but if i say the moon is a space rock created by different kind of elements 384,000 km away from us, you most likley would say that is true, because it is true. A Hallucination has nothing to do with reality.
I had a near death experience when I was 6. A cardiac arrest. I was watching a movie when it happened and I hallucinated to be in this movie (Asterix conquers America). It was fun but I never thought about taking it for real. Sad that people can not feel happy about their experiences without claiming that they're true.
You really cherry picked here. Especially with Sam Parnia's work. He explained the low hit rate and there was a verification of the one NDE... It happened on a ward and not in the area where target images were. Nevertheless, the patients description of the events, and people attending were verified. Its easy to find this information, so I'm not sure why you missed this key fact out... I guess it didn't fit your narrative based in your own arrogance...
Sorry, it's a bit late. I don't like releasing anything like this that isn't thoroughly researched, fact-checked, and polished. Hopefully, it's worth your time. What would you like me to investigate next? Thank you for the view. :)
Also, since I'm sure that people are going to ask why I didn't include something about DMT. I read just about every research article I could find from the last decade on NDEs, and I couldn't find any conclusive evidence that DMT has anything to do with NDEs. It's an interesting hypothesis, but until more research is done in this area, I feel it's misleading to include it. And yes, I'm also aware of the study that showed an electrical spike in rats' brains at the time of death. This may provide a clue into the nature of NDEs, if the same is true for humans, but more research is needed in this area. I may bring it up in future videos, this one was just getting very long/labor-intensive already, and I wanted to avoid speculation as much as I could.
At 6:00 you listed a number of sensory experiences one can have as a result of hypoxia. Last summer I experienced all of these as a result of depression induced sleep deprivation as well. The event did indeed seem otherworldly.
Clearly they are signs -- not of the presence of the supernatural -- but of a brain in crisis.
Some people sell books about this tunnel of light stuff saying its evidence for god. If it was evidence it wouldn't be a money grubbing book, it'd be a science journal and get peer reviewed, they are liars.
If possible, would you able to do a video on your view of veganism? Whether you are vegan or not, it would be very interesting to know your intake. I really admire Richard Dawkins on his honesty despite not being one.
Holy Koolaid , how about interviewing atheist who left their Conservative fundamentalist family share their stories, and give us an update on how things are with their family and peers now
Talk about reencarnation next
I died from an Asthma attack in the second grade(no breathing, cardiac arrest), luckily there was an ambulance a few blocks up the road that was able to resuscitate me. I remember experiencing nothing, there was a slight sense that time had passed, but utter blackness and a lack of thoughts.
I actually began to have my first Atheist thoughts several months later, it wasn't until my early 20s that I accepted the fact that I'm not a Christian.
Even when I was SURE we could survive physical death, I never thought this had anything to do with a god or creator. I still don't understand why anyone would think that one implies the other, or NEEDS the other.
I fainted twice, and in both instances I only recall darkness. Nothing happened. The first time it happened, I heard myself bump into something as I fell, but when I came to, my vision was like a trippy noise interference. It was rainbowic. As my vision cleared, I felt as though I was spinning to the left. The second time, I just blanked out. After these two experiences, I wondered if there was even an afterlife. I am an atheist.
I had close to the same experience. It's just sad that you use it as anti-God cheerleading.
The only thing sad is your reply. Atheists are not anti god. You can't be against something that you don't believe exists in the first place.
I for one WOULD be against god if there WAS such a thing. The idea of an all powerful supreme being is just disgusting.
But as it stands I am not against god. What I am against is the IDEA of a god. It's a terrible idea and you need to forget about it.
+run Caz Don't waste your time.
Many people who experience NDE's come back with the revelation that we should be kinder to one another. For many, they become more loving, caring, passionate, and generally much happier after their experience.
Whether this revelation is from "god", a "creator", or merely a product of your own subconscious mind, or your own conscience, my question is: who cares? Is this phenomenon not incredibly wonderful?
I think that NDEs are not a product of brain function, but I also don't think that we need a "god" to exist in order for an afterlife to exist.
The change in behavior of people who have had NDE's (if there is a significant change in behavior) could also be the result of mild brain damage similar to the personality changes some stroke survivors exhibit.
@@garethbaus5471 I highly doubt it. Most people who have these experiences have no neurological deficit after they recover from cardiac arrest.
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That is a possibility, however personality changes in stroke victims tend to me more of a mixed deck, whereas personality changes in an NDE-experiencer generally follow a formula of becoming less selfish and more giving to others. I'd be curious to see research to determine if these personality changes from NDE-experiencers can be traced to some form of brain damage.
so you're on your deathbed and you start to drift off skyward, not knowing if you are
about to meet your maker, or if you are bound for the hot place, but you stop to check
out the colour of polythene bags, you drop by the nurses station to see what's on tv,
you pop into the linen closet to read bar codes on bed sheets, yeah sure, thats your eternal soul.
if it was me i would want some questions answered, can we travel faster than light, what is the cure for
cancer? what do people bring back from their meeting with god? "granny says love each other"
Thanks man. Was beaten, suffocated on my blood, stopped breathing and and heart stopped beating. Was revived sometime either during ambulance ride or ER. Had a wonderful experience on the way to the hospital; floated out of ambulance, the world was full of a kind of warm, clear and overwhelming light. The buildings began to change and people I felt I somehow knew or were related to came out to greet me. I woke up a week later in ICU, remember almost nothing about the beating or the hospital but I can remember this like it was yesterday even though it was 30 years ago. I already had superpowers.
Why were you beaten ?
@@rayburklund9494For telling dumb stories.
Brains work in mysterious ways
hihahahalol Well... mysterious until we figure them out.
And God works in DELIRIOUS WAYS
Holy Koolaid
2:23 Arabs:wat ?
Haha nice one
Holy Koolaid
So why not apply the same logic with god working in mysterious ways?
I used to believe in NDEs, and then I read one case - guy on a bike was hit by a car. He had the classic NDE experience - the tunnel, the light, the voices, etc. Trouble is, he was never near death. He only broke his leg. Also the fact that people throughout time have seen their own culturally taught afterlives leads me to believe it's brain chemistry.
According to psychiatrist Bruce Greyson, people don't see culture-specific items in their NDEs. Their interpretation of the experience however, may be influenced by their cullture, but the experience itself is probably not. Plus, there's the fact that people have experiences which outright contradict their preconceived beliefs, and those who knew nothing about the phenomenology or ocurrence of NDEs. So, your claim about cross-cultural differneces is easily disputable. You're welcome to email Dr. Bruce Greyson himself and he will confirm these facts with you and cite his sources.
The idea that it's just brain chemistry is also even more doubtful when you consider that people who are having these experiences (during cardiac arrest or general anesthesia) don't have any cerebral function.
@@zakhust6840 - that's nice, but Dr. Greyson is not the only psychiatrist / neurologist who has knowledge of NDEs, nor does he reference EVERY NDE experience that has been reported and what you claim he said totally contradicts the reports of people who claim to have had NDEs. Since each NDE is a personal experience, Dr. Greyson cannot tell them they didn't experience what they said they experienced. So his conclusions are easily disputable.
As for people who have had experiences without cerebral function - that is a dubious claim. Of course they had cerebral function. That's why this phenomenon is called NEAR death experience. They aren't really dead. If they were totally brain dead, they would still be dead.
@@benjalucian1515 As I said, you're welcome to email him directly, he will corroborate those facts I mention. He has one of the largest database of experiences reported which does seem to contradict what you say.
Cardiac arrest NDEs didn't have any cerebral function. Not even deep in the brain like the guy on this video claims. EEGs have been measured and they show flatline, which indicate non-functioning of the cerebral cortex. BAEPs measure activity deep in the brain, from the brainstem, during circulatory arrest, they are absent, so the whole brain is offline, not even a little bit of brain which may support those experiences.
@@zakhust6840 - I don't have to reach out to him, I know he's wrong or that his information is incomplete, or he's intentionally leaving out cases that don't fit his thesis.
*Cardiac arrest NDEs didn't have any cerebral function* Let me repeat, if you have NO brain function, even more than an EEG can detect, then you are brain dead. NO ONE has returned from being brain dead. NO ONE.
@@benjalucian1515 Then, you would be the one who is ignoring mischievously the following: (1) Studies on the phenomenology of NDEs conducted by Bruce Greyson himself. You're claiming that you know he's wrong or that he's intentionally cherry picking, claims for which you present precisely zero evidence.
And (2) ignoring 50 years of neurophysiological that demonstrates that cerebral function ceases entirely during cardiac arrest. Brain death is when the brain becomes so damaged it no longer can be brought back to life. Cerebral function can cease entirely without the patient having to be brain death. We're talking about the metabolic activity of the brain on it's relation to consciousness. The brains of these people were completely shut down, any experience reported was not result of brain chemistry.
My younger brother was a pilot in the Air Force. Before you become a pilot you are put in a machine that registers how many G's of force your body can handle before you pass out this is important because when you're in an airplane that's taking a dive you need to know how much you can take and not pass out. But what's interesting is that most Pilots when they're close to passing out have an experience that is a very very much like near-death experiences. This includes the bright light someone walking towards them the feeling of being warm and loved the whole thing. Then they usually pass out throw up and come to and remember a lot of what they saw. Many many doctors think near-death experiences have to do with the lack of oxygen to the brain that the brain is responding to this lack of oxygen by producing Good Feeling hallucinations. And as an aside Pilots all over the world experienced the same thing when they are in this G-Force simulator.
Pilots who have experienced G-force induced loss of consciousness and had near-death experiences report that these experiences are not the same thing.
Than your brother is a war criminal.
this is probably how religion started with early humans too. drug use coupled with physical trauma
You _don't_ worship the god-plumber Mario? Bowser has a special place for people like you
XD Noice
Heretic! Luigi is the only true God plumber .
Yeah, in another f-ing castle
Btw.. *not* funny. At all. Like..at all.
@@travisdixon-oneill1558 ...until Kratos kills them all in Smash Bros... Because he forgot he's not in Mortal Kombat.
I had an NDE (Negative Diarrhea Experience)
Lmao
Haha
I had a Nincompoop Depressive Episode :(
implosion?
The little boy’s last name:Malarkey... you can’t make this up 🤣😂🤣😂🤷🏻♀️
i checked some german ndes,
1 person experienced a comforting darkness
2 experienced a darkness where they would be humiliated by creatures
2 experienced a beautiful garden
3 experienced a comforting light from which 2 said that they could feel it is god
When I initially read the first line of your comment, I mistook it for "I checked some German nudes" and I'm thinking where's he going with this? Then I felt like a dipshit after reading it a second time...
show me that prove though..
@luisbarbosa8136 i could tell you the source of the reports (Einblicke ins Jenseits), but they are in german and are just reports of people.
So there is no real proof other than people having supposedly similar near death experiences.
You have dreams every night, but you don’t remember most of them. Just because someone said they don’t have an NDE doesn’t mean it didn’t exist. It could also mean they don’t remember them.
The problem is that this begs the question how *anyone* could remember an NDE without the brain being there to do the memorizing. I question how the 9% that say they had an NDE can even remember such an experience at all. We know the brain stores memories because if you damage the brain, you lose memories associated with that part of the brain. If you stimulate certain parts of the brain, it triggers memories. People who claim NDE experiences are real are trying to have it both ways -- my consciousness left my brain, but still utilized and stored things in my brain.
@@leomdk939 maybe our soul or consiousness stores it who knows
Exactly.
The Soul's Memories Are SEPARATE From The Brain's Memories.
@@fade1473 if ur soul stores it then do u remember anything before ur birth as they say soul Never dies ! So it's clearly the brain that do it and one more example alziemers patients can't even make memories why cuz there brain cells died off i hope that explains
@@leomdk939 was this 9% source the only ones, there could be others, google search perhaps show plenty more
The ad before this was an app for personal evangelism
Maeve Doyle I keep getting ads before the videos and in recommended for varying religions and anti-atheist foundations.
Hardcore evangelical groups are notorious for buying ad space in "enemy territory" in the hopes that they can successfully evangelize a few Atheists. Just skip the ad, or better yet click on a bunch of times. Every click bills the advertiser.
Torque2100 I go to their website and put a link to rational video I originally clicked on in their comment section if they allow comments, which a lot of them don't .
+Torque2100 That's actually a good idea. Billing the advertiser costs them money and, if I understand YT monetization correctly, helps support the channel without a direct Patreon contribution.
Me too, but its evangelism from the country Indonesia where I lived
Yeah I dont know... I spent time as an EMT and I've seen some things. My little brother is a paramedic and has stories that give me chills. I'm going to attempt a counter-argument here. First, I can put you in a sleeper hold and you will lose all conscious abilities and your sense of self and personal agency along with all abilities to process coherent thought in 3-5 seconds, SECONDS... yet somehow these people are in a FAR more hypoxic state than you would be (in the hypothetical sleeper hold) and are still able to have vivid hyper-conscious states in which complex themes are interconnected and visualized? Then they are able to form a memory of said experience? I call bullshit. There is something else here. It doesn't have to be hocus-pocus fairy tale shit if you don't feel comfortable with the thought that perhaps all phenomena cannot be understood through materialist reductionism. It's fully possible that our consciousness resides in some quantum state as an independent entity within the universe. Or perhaps there IS really a spiritual dimension to human existence? I find that most people who even reject that as a possibility have alternate agendas or some deep psychological injury they are harboring. I personally know of three people who have had NDEs while in a medically brain-dead state (lack of pulse or efficacious perfusion, not breathing, fully unconscious with profound injury or GCS rating below 5. (Glasgow Coma Scale) All three of them are sound minded sane people and all of them have been changed forever. Two of them were previously atheist or at least agnostic and now all three are fully confident there is "something else" and have lost all fear of death. That is fucking profound and I've become convinced through speaking with them that they were not hallucinating, nor do I believe they were medically able to perceive a hallucination, much less form a robust memory of it, with their degree and extent of injury. Plus, I've hallucinated hardcore on certain...ahem...chemicals in my past. And it's a disjointed surreal experience that can be frightening and disorienting. Their experiences are nothing like a DMT/LSD experience. Have you ever had a hardcore bad trip? It is NOT an OBE or a spiritual experience. It's....something else.
Although I find the "God helmet" intriguing, it's also possible it is stimulating the portion of our brain responsible for imagination and dreaming. But there's a much bigger problem. All of the participants who wear the God helmet and have the "triggered" OBE's are CONSCIOUS and have a fully functioning non-ischemic brain, are not in cardio-pulmonary arrest, and likely have excellent cerebral perfusion. I'll give you a hint, if you want that experience skip the helmet. It's called 5MEO-DMT.... that's what you want.
It's also possible that if there is an extremely powerful God who created an entire multiverse, that He (or She) would interact with us each in such a way that we would expect so as to not destroy us or cause deep turmoil. What if no one religion is correct but we all perceive that God is there so we create images of him which are tainted by our cultures? In this way God could be very real and the various religions of man are just our different, culturally colored ways of expressing our intuition of his existence? Yes, Christians may see Jesus, or a Hindu might see Siva or Lord Ganesha. But the elements of the NDE, (OBE, bright soothing light, feeling of peace and love, zero fear, a "tunnel" or "light", communing with passed relatives or holy figure, and realization that it's "not their time") these are all fairly uniform across all cultures if you read the literature available. Also, if a false delusion or dream state, why would it be so uniform? Why wouldn't some folks have NDEs about fighting Frieza on Snake Way or NDEs about touring as Metallica's new bass player? These are only reported by someone who intentionally wants to mess with the data pool (as you did with your C3PO "experience"). I think there is more here than we know and I felt you were a little too dismissive in your video. Your wrap up was nice but I still think there is more here than we know what to do with. Also... aliens are real. Peace.
man, that is 100% what i think. perfectly described, every single aspect. nothing to add. do you still think the same way?
I was thinking most of what you said here and came to the conclusion that ‘Aliens or beings with higher intelligence and technology do exist; so even if all of our theories are false, that one could be the answer that we won’t know for a long time’
@@somedude8873 Its a big ass Universe. I'd actually be pretty shocked if we were alone. I also think conscious first-person subjective awareness gives a certain confirmation that conscious experience is a fundamental aspect of reality. In other words, the universe exists with conscious agents because it was always MEANT to have conscious agents. Hell, what if conscious experience is actually the base layer of reality and material existence is just the derivative "stage" on which it exists? To put it briefly, what if the Universe didnt evolve consciousness, what is conscious experience evolved the universe?
What an excellent comment. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on this. I couldn't agree more. 👌
You articulated yourself brilliantly! I have nothing to add other than I agree with you!
The god helmet is been pretty discredited by the lack of repeat-ability. Katamine produces a similar, but far from exact response in people. Hypoxia leads to decreased awareness which is the opposite response of reported NDEs. Blanks experiment had 6 participants who all had underlying neurological problems, so it was too small a sample size and a poor choice of candidates. Finally your assumption that people who come back would have special knowledge of an afterlife is like assumes it follows the same rules as our universe. We have no basis for that assumption, the rules of our own universe appear to change between the quantum and macro realms "there may be a theory to link the two but we have no idea at the moment". Its likely that if they did go to an afterlife there would be things that our brains cannot comprehend "try to imagine a new color or the spatial arrangement of a 4 dimensional shape". I'm not saying there is not a scientific explanation, but in the rush to disprove religion some very sloppy science has been done.
The ketamin thing is a hypothesis, they don't claim it to be the answer just a potential explanation.
The god helmet has been found to cause experiences via placebo meaning that the subject is experiencing things due to them believing it's happening. That's more damming evidence as it means these experiences like ndes can happen depending of how surgestible the subject is.
Also blanks findings were backed up later were a 10 year old experienceing seizures had a out of body experience and the doctors found a growth were in the same spot. More research in recent years backs this up.
I think you should flesh out the part about the good helmet, Half a sentence is proofs or disproves nothing. But i would be thery intrested in hearing what you have to say.
But i think regarding Blanks experiments (the ones with implanted electrodes in the brain) you have quite a point.
I drowned when I was 7 was clinically dead for 2 minutes and I didn’t see anything. It was just dark and silent.
maybe you were in hell 😂😂😂😂
@@luisbarbosa8136lmao
@RobertEdwinHouse9 it felt like nothing existed.
I've seen things in my life that have thoroughly convinced me that there is an afterlife..... My Dad died of a heart attack, and my little Nephew saw him, without any ONE of us knowing this. He told my Sister, his Mother, that he saw him..... My Nephew is only a little kid..... My Mom saw him in the morning, and he spoke to her..... I saw Dad in a dream, and he told me he loved me..... None of us knew he had died, until we found out later in the day..... None of us, my Mom, my Nephew, or me even knew about this at the time my Dad visited us..... All of this took place a little while after he passed on..... I am not religious..... There are plenty more events I could speak about..... No skeptic on EARTH could convince me that we don't see our loved ones again. :) I don't believe in heaven or hell, but I do believe in an afterlife..... I have hope, and it's going to stay that way. :D
How do you know the kid isn't just psychic?
I believe there are some near death experiences that are true in which people have seen loved ones who have passed on. I also believe that there are many that are not true. You have to study every near death experience for yourself.
+Jeff Day
Studying is all well and good but no matter how much you study them there is no way to tell the real from the fake even if their were any
Death's a hell of a drug.
"If there's life after death, why do we die?"
-random meme
There is life after death, because experience (of some form, from one source or another) is the only option. The idea that just because I end means "there's nothing" (somehow an experience of "nothing") after I die, is absurd. I will no longer be the context in which experience is occurring in, but there will be new brains born *after* my brain rots away, so it'll be in the context of whichever organism happens to be born after I die that experience will continue. This completely excludes souls from the equation. But we should also remove "Nothing" from the equation too because "nothing" is... well, nothing, and only Something is what exists. So, in the same way your brain came to exist (from biology), a new brain will come to exist after the current one turns to dirt. As long as there's a brain in the universe, that experience will be experienced. Non-experience simply does not happen. So in the same way your experience was forced on you, yet another experience (via some other organism) will be forced on it. For it its experience will be the only thing it can ever know.
@@naturalisted1714 Here comes the made up bullshit without any evidence whatsoever. NDEs are debunked as hallucinations and Their is no evidence of 'Soul'. Stop misleading people.
@@subscriberswithnovideos-xw9xc if you look at NDEs there are more than plenty of them that cannot be just hallucinations bc of what happensnin them
@@gabrielwilliams9093 We have no way of verifying these stories are truthful and accurate (see this video for two examples). People lie, exaggerate, misunderstand and misremember all the time, especially about emotional things. (What could be more emotional than NDE?) For every 'unexplainable story' there are ways the information could be contaminated or just outright fabricated. A more consistent explanation is that a part of the inner core of the brain remains slightly conscious during the NDE (EEG only measures the outer layers, not the cortex) and the person is picking up information from hearing people talking around them without realizing. You know -- just as things you hear while sleeping can affect your dreams. Your brain is picking up information without being conscious enough to realize it.
If I have to pick between either A) inconsistent stories of the afterlife that vary from culture to culture and are only experienced by 9% of people who come back from cardiac arrest and are only supported by personal anecdotes which can easily be contaminated or fabricated or B) hey, the brain is an amazingly complex thing we don't fully understand yet, I'm going with B.
Is that supposed to be an argument?
My grandfather flat lined about 4 times before he ultimately passed away. He was a deist (a person that believes in the existence of a God, without the need for religion). He never experienced a NDE. He did however compared flat lining to going under general anesthetic, and that it was ultimately a peaceful experience, coming back however was not so peaceful. Towards the end of his life he got sick of being brought back to life. So we let him go as that was what he wanted.
Wut?
Your grandfather was tough.
As someone who had an NDE back in the Seventies (in my twenties), in another country, without having heard of the phenomenon before, I wouldn’t call the experience meaningless. It was the most amazing experience of my life. It had nothing to do with any religion or anything supernatural. That despite me having been a Catholic who believed in god and the supernatural at the time. If anything, it was the one experience in my life that led to me eventually leaving all that belief behind.
So what if it is rare? Are you suggesting the 9% of cardiac arrest patients who experienced it made it all up just because the others did not experience it? Or that just because some unscrupulous con artists who have heard of it would make up ridiculous stories (that anyone who actually did have an NDE would recognize as fake), such an experience is not possible?
And no, I did not have a cardiac arrest at the time (my body was fighting an infection of my lymphatic system and I had high fever, how high I do not know because I was in a hotel room and we did not have a thermometer), and I did not see any special light, no dead people came to say hello, and I never left the hotel room during the experience. I also was not looking for any hidden artifacts to prove my experience later. I was floating above my body, watching it shake, though I fell no connection to “him”. Then I saw my mother and her sister standing at “his bed” (I was watching them from the middle of the room by then, so I just saw their backs) and I was puzzled why they were weeping when I was feeling so good.
I don’t remember how I got out of, and then back in to, my body. I have never thought about it as being in any way supernatural, and, quite frankly, I don’t understand why so many people who never had such an experience dismiss it as “unscientific”. How on Earth do you suggest I or anyone prove it scientifically (or that we care if anyone else believes us). I did not know in advance it was going to happen, so what kind of controlled experiment was I supposed to do? And it has never happened to me since then. It is rare, it is unpredictable. It is, for all intents and purposes, untestable. But it does happen every so often.
RustyTube I think heaven is real in my opinion
I had an OBE when I was 19. 48 now. No drugs were involved. Wasn't trying to make anything happen. At that point if I had even heard of OBEs I don't remember. Didn't do research on the subject until after the experience. I am going to point out however that I was able to see the position of the sun, experience dew on grass, know where everything in my parents living room wss despite the fact that we never used that room, also experienced a few things I can't put into words. I saw the exact time on the digital clock near my bed and then I guess you could say I woke up (very unpleasant experience) and the time on the clock was 1 minute later than what I had "seen". So go figure. Was it supernatural? No idea. My brain however was in my body in my bedroom and "I" was in my parents living room, outside of the house, then quick stops to another couple rooms before getting "back in". Only term I can think of sorry. Can't explain it. Have had many vivid dreams in my life and this felt nothing at all like that. Would I like to repeat it? Nope. Scary experience for me especially being young and knowing nothing about what had happened. I've never been the same person since then. For the better actually. Make me look at life from a different perspective. Don't have any other answers except what happened to me. I guess that is my story.
Rusty, don't take anything Koolaid posted personal. It's just not possible for some to accept what they can't see or touch. Which is quite ironic when you think about it! But that's another story.
I actually had a spontaneous OBE when I was teenager. I wasn't high or any drugs and what I saw during my experience was confirmed. I never experienced anything like it before my experience and I have never experienced it since. I guess you could say it was this experience that placed me on the path of researching experiences such as this. My conclusion? The OBE/NDE is a very real experience and there is something more than just the physical. Quantum mechanics shows that our consciousness plays a prominent role in our so-called reality and may actually be the ground state of existence. In other words, the only real thing may be consciousness! Understanding this makes such experiences more understandable and believable.
@RustyTube. Thank you for sharing this. It is always irksome in life to listen to people speaking about many things they have had NO EXPERIENCE of whatsoever. Especially in regard to OBEs and NDEs.
Collectively, in time, as we share, we can come to a better personal interpretation of what is really happening whilst seeing through deceptions.
Perhaps we are not meant to truly know. Perhaps we are not ready for the truth, thus the veil(s).
It is quite something to realise that people's beliefs/programming profoundly affect their NDE experiences.
Who is doing the programming? Who is in control of the programming to aid the transition away from the body or back into it and why? We each have our own personal programmed and non-programmed private thoughts about these questions.
RustyTube he’s not saying that the people didn’t have those experiences, just that the experiences aren’t supernatural. That’s it.
I had a NDE of my own. While it was happening, I remember thinking that what I was experiencing must be my brain trying to make sense of what was happening to my body as it was shutting down. And I could see parallels to my experience in NDE stories I'd previously read about, and how the phenomenon could be interpreted by others as religious experiences. All of which, admittedly, was a lot to think about as I felt myself falling in slow motion and hearing the ER nurse shouting "Crash!'. Then - white light, out of body experience and more. I was agnostic before, and atheist after. The final door to religiosity had slammed. It was very liberating.
So do you believe in NDE? If I may ask :)
I "believe" that a person's sensory perceptors can misfire when the brain is starved for oxygen and struggling to make sense of what is going on around him. I do not believe that what is perceived is any kind of evidence for heaven or an afterlife. Based on what I experienced, I can see how a less analytical mind might accept the supernatural as a viable explanation. As for myself, I did not lean toward heaven's gate.
What did you exactly experience in your NDE? I think if it would be a misfering by our brain, the memories of the NDE would be faulty and a bit chaotic due to the lack of oxygene and the stress of your brain. They have done an other study and used the test called Memory Characteristics Questionnaire which is also used to verifiy the authencity of a memory and they found out that those memories are very real ones.
I think the lack of memory only explain a part of a NDE like the tunnel vision for example, but not the rest of it, a NDE is very complex phenomenon. Lack of oxygene still doesn't explain how some people can describe what for example other doctors said or what they wore. How seeing and hearing without eyes and ears, especially when your brain actitivity is zero and even if we were not aware that there is maybe still an activity, that couldn't explain how people could see or hear something.
I am not saying that there is an evidence of NDE or a heavon or afterlife, but the explanations like a lack of oxygene and so on, doesn't explain the whole NDE thing.
I hate to break this to you but you are still agnostic. You always were, and will be. Everyone is. Saying you are agnostic is meaningless. LOL
Agnostic only refers to knowledge.
edh I hope heaven is real
I once had an NDE when I passed out during a blood extraction. Then reality proved it wrong to me...
The day of the blood extraction I hadn't been to this particular hospital in years and didn't know my way around. As I approached the building, I went around two sides of the building that were all brick wall on the outside (important detail for later). The entrances of the building are not all on the same level and I had to take the elevator to the lab from the floor I entered on. In the chair I sat in for the extraction there was a window behind me. They needed 5 viles of blood and they just changed out the viles on the same needle without taking it out of my arm. About the time they started the second vile I just passed out and instantly I was floating in the air above and behind myself, outside the window looking at my body. I could see the brick wall around the window, I could see I was floating at least one floor off the ground, I could feel the breeze and the sun on my back and I could smell the fresh air. Then, as suddenly as my "out of body' self had appeared outside the window I suddenly shot forward back into my body and I woke up with a forward jolt, feeling as if my out of body self had knocked my body forward. The needle was still in my arm and I was lucky to only get a nasty bruise.
Now I've always been a skeptic and a very vivid dreamer, I've experienced physical touch and smell in dreams before so I was skeptical but this still had me wondering... until the next time I had to go to the lab. This time I went in the lab entrance instead of through the hospital and by the lab entrance I noticed the lab is on the ground floor and the walls around the windows are not brick. My brain just made up that scenario because I saw brick walls on my way in and wasn't sure which floor I was on.
That was not an NDE. You did not flatline, you just passed out. Sam Parnia’s newest NYU study also just proved NDEs are not hallucinations.
@@soylatte1288 I miss spoke (miss typed), I meant out of body experience.
@@soylatte1288Do you have a link to that study?
Buddha said that a person talking about the after life is the same as a chicken talking about the world while still in the shell.
Dude, so one time in 7th grade I fell asleep on my bed while studying and I had an out of body experience. I was at the foot of my bed, looking at my sleeping body. I looked down at my body while the real one was on the bed and freaked out. I could see the books and stuffed animals exactly where I've put them. It was freaky, and I've never had another experience like that.
astral projection
My uncle had a kidney transplant in the mid-late 70's. Back when these things were fairly new and extremely dangerous (they gave him only 5 years to live even if it was succesful, but he managed almost 10).
He "died" for a minute or so. Which is fairly routine as far as I understand, that someone's heart might stop for a short while during major surgery.
He claimed from that day that he went down a tunnel towards a white light. And at the end he saw someone standing at a fence on the edge of a never-ending field. Someone who looked somewhat like his dad, my grandfather, who had died not too long before.
I never believed he had seen anything supernatural. Even as a young child. But I believe something happened to his brain. And this made him feel like he experienced something amazing. I never called him out on it, or even questioned him too much. He felt better because of his belief. He wasn't really religious or anything. But his dad had died in the last couple of years, at a pretty young age even for those days (50). So he felt better believing his dad was waiting for him. Especially seeing as he knew his days were already numbered after the transplant.
I'm the farthest thing from an expert, but for whatever my thoughts are worth, I always figured near-death experiences were basically dreams. Maybe being almost dead is similar in some ways to being asleep, so when you almost die your brain starts dreaming, and everyone knows that dreams are often about things that are on your mind around the time you had them, and when you're having a near-death experience, what's on your mind is "Shit! I just died!", so what your brain comes up with is whatever you've been told happens when you die.
Hmmm… So when the brain senses low oxygen levels, it becomes highly active in order to stimulate imagery and sensory functions as a survival mechanism?🤔
I have temporal lobe epilepsy and whenever a seizure starts I always have hallucinations and an out of body experience
This is just anecdotal. Why should we trust your experiences, but discard others?
@@pvt.jamesramirez6249 I'm not asking for your trust. However, certain types of epilepsy are know to cause hallucinations and an out of body experience- it's actually a defining feature of temporal lobe epilepsy, so it's not an extraordinary claim to make.
just me
Well, tell me. What did a seizure induced out of body experience look like?
@@pvt.jamesramirez6249 First it's important to know that everyone experiences seizures differently. What one person feels during a seizure may be completely different from what another person feels. When I start to have a seizure it's like I get sucked out of my body and I'm hovering over myself but still looking forward. It also feels like I'm falling into a pit and everything gets slightly fuzzy with a black haze around it. My body is frozen so I can't speak but I can still hear other people. Their voices go in and out and echo like we're in a cave and their faces grow bigger and smaller. If I try really hard I can stay focused on where I am, but if I can't then my mind slips into a dream world. When someone sees the seizure happening, I just look like I'm staring into space, but in my mind I'm having all kinds of visions, pretty much exactly like a dream except it's always a bad dream. And also like a dream, it's usually really hard to remember what I saw once I'm out of it. Then when the seizure is ending, it feels like I'm transported back into my body, where I sit down and settle in, and then everything fades back into focus.
just me
Hmm. Doesn’t really sound like an OBE you’d get from an NDE. NDE OBEs always have a clear perception of what’s going on in the room, and have absolutely no sense of confusion or panic whatsoever. You’re OBE sounds like absolute confusion, panic, and no ability to perfectly recall what was going on in the room/setting around you.
The truth about NDE's is that Koolaid has no idea what he is talking about. The old and tired objections of a lack of oxygen, electrical stimulation to a part of the brain, DMT, Ketamine and other drugs. Those objections have been carefully refuted.
Life does not follow death. Death follows life. Pay attention to reality.
All hail Mario
Dude this guy has been debunked look at www.near-death.com/philosophy/skepticism/skeptic-hoax-nde-and-fraud-exposed.html and the fact that hes name is "Holy Koolaid" just screams immature and childish........
@@loke2860 You claim Holy Koolaid is childish when your "Kevin Williams" included Westbrook's thank you message to his patrons as an "argument" and then proceeded to bitch about Westbrook making money off of his youtube channel. To top it all off this is on a website that advertises mysticism crap and includes pseudoscience as well.
I really love the video, but it's worth noting that dreams actually do occur every time for essentially every person. It's just uncommon for us to remember them.
Sure, but it’s still just a dream. And dreams aren’t proof of an afterlife.
I have an anecdote for you of my own, one of my many stories of weird things. I flatlined in the hospital about 15 years ago after attempting suicide with a massive dose of morphine (before I left the Wiccan religion). I didn't float out of my body or see a tunnel and light. I sunk down and out. Everything went stark white the way things look during a blizzard. Then I was standing/ floating in this weird place surrounded by other dead people just milling around. When I woke up, I figured I'd just had an opiate induced hallucination, until my friend told me I'd flatlined for a few moments. I feel rather ripped off and alone, why didn't I get the light and the tunnel? Why didn't I get to float away? 🤔 I have never found another anecdote like my own. I have talked to others who said they've flatlined. Several experienced a black nothing, one floated into space and met aliens, another met Jesus and Yogananda. Maybe we experience weird hallucinations when we start to die and some experience nothing at all? If it is death, perhaps the experience is different for each of us. The only thing I came away with was that we might not just blink out completely after we die. I also realized that Wicca was toxic for me and it was time to leave. So I did. I don't get suicidal anymore. So that's positive, right?
I remembered my religious teacher who took a master's degree and his main research was on NDE. Said that he interviewed many people on their NDEs and smugly told me that these claims were evidences of god's existence. With a mind riddled with catholicism, its hard to argue with him. He wouldnt let me talk and when I do, he's quick in cutting me off. Hahaha he's clearly uncomfortble with me but he's pretending that he's open minded and friendly towrds me. By the end of the sem, he asked students what they have learned. Being good ol' catholic boys and grls, some said, they even have more faith in god because of me! Ha! The irony! I was clearly contradicting the teacher and I even gave him a copy of a video from richard dawkins. He told me the whole class would watch it but he never did let us see it! Well, so much for trying. And even more surprisingly, he gave me 99 on my final grade. I couldnt be more happy and confused at the same time🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️😆😆😆
As someone who grew up Catholic, but is no longer a believer, this really isn't that confusing, from my perspective at least. While the Catholic Church is rooted in tradition and conservatism, most members that I've encountered aren't quite as zealous and intolerant as, say, the folks you see yelling at you on the street or from a TV screen. They have strong faith, but will usually treat nonbelievers and adherents of other faiths fairly (such as, for example, your teacher giving you the grade your work warranted). I know, personally, even when I was a true believer, I wouldn't have dreamed of mistreating anyone who believed differently, and the priest overseeing the congregation would have been mortified if I did.
Of course, this is all anecdotal, and there are Catholics who are just as bad as the average televangelist, but maybe your teacher's behavior was merely a result of the conflict between his strong faith and his perception of himself as open-minded.
How did you get into that situation?
CelticMarauder I'm guessing the earned grade was 100%, and the teacher docked one point to teach the student to be humble and follow doctrine. Either grade results in 4.0 points, but one isn't perfect, like the Amish deliberately denting their handmade furniture (although, I see this as being contradictory to the intended meaning, as the piece would never have been perfect to begin with and it takes hubris to think that one would need to damage an item to remain humble....but they are religious, thus irrational.)
I grew up Catholic and have had a couple uncles leave with their families to become Southern Baptist, as Catholicism was no longer fanatical enough. Madness.
Your fist sentence seem accurate then.. your teacher TOOK the degree instead of earning it...LOL
wael heh what if heaven is real.
People who are dying have no strength to lie. I worked as a CNA and there was a woman who told me a interesting thing. She was dying of cancer and told me this. She told me that she could see what seemed like people to her. Now this woman was still in her right mind. She told me that she could see angels working then she said the the only reason she could see them is because she was closer to them i was.
They are not just anecdotes. There is proof when someone hears conversations from other rooms. People explain details about relatives they met in heaven whom they never met in this life. You say it's never been proven under a controlled setting but there are thousands of confirmed proven cases.
Was this documented by the people involved?
Links? Supporting Documents? Do you even have a list of names? Assertions are not evidence.
Another well and constructed from you. Just because people make these accounts, it definitely doesn't make their stories credible. It definitely is all constructed from thoughts and experiences just like dreams. You and Cosmic Skeptic are definitely amongst my favourite atheist TH-camrs. Keep up the good work!
Ryan Colaço Thanks.
Who is cosmic skeptic, what sorta vids does he make?
Mims Zanadunstedt He's a very good atheist TH-camr and constructs very logical arguments for many things. His knowledge and intellectual superiority are heavily evident. I suggest you look him up to find out more as you won't be disappointed.
All NDE's and out of body experiences happen from clinical death. No one has come back from biological death. I remain curious but skeptical. I lost a good friend to cancer in 2001. A few months before he passed away permanently, he hemorrhaged, and was clinically dead for several minutes, and described his own NDE, where he described that "I felt like I was with Earth, but Earth wasn't with me". I was curious and wanted to keep asking questions about it, but I stayed off topic, as the situation was stressful enough, and just continued to render good company and comfort.
In the video, it is claimed, "Not one case of veridical NDEs has ever been confirmed under a scientifically controlled setting." This is incorrect. In the AWARE study, which he mentions in the video, one case of veridical perception (VP) was confirmed under a scientifically controlled setting. Of the 2,060 cardiac patients in the study, only 140 survived and were well enough to have an interview. Of these 140, there were 39 who were not able to complete the second interview, mostly due to fatigue. Of the 101 patients able to interviewed, only 9 were deemed to have had an NDE (9%) and of these 9 NDErs, only two reported memories of auditory/visual awareness of the physical environment. Of these two, one was not able to follow up with an in-depth third interview due to ill health. The other patient had VPs while in cardic arrest: (1) During the NDE, the patient felt quite euphoric; (2) The patient heard an automated voice saying, "Shock the patient, shock the patient;" (3) The patient rose near the ceiling and looked down on his physical body, the nurse and another man, bald and "quite a chunky fella," who wore blue scrubs and a blue hat. The patient could tell the man was bald because of where the hat was; (4) The next day, the patient recognized the bald man who attended him during the resuscitation; (5) The medical record confirmed the use of an AED (Automated External Defibrillator) that would give the automated instructions the patient heard and the role that the identified man played during the resuscitation. To assess the accuracy of claims of VP, 50 to 100 shelves were installed in each hospital (15 of them) near the ceiling of areas where cardiac arrest resuscitation was likely to occur. Each shelf had an image that was visible only from above the shelf. The study's hypothesis was that the images on the shelves could potentially test the validity of VP, provided enough cases of NDEs. The study's authors concluded that: (a) In some cases of cardiac arrest, memories of visual awareness compatible with so called out-of-body experiences may correspond with actual events; (b) A number of NDErs may have vivid death experiences, but do not recall them due to the effects of brain injury or sedative drugs on memory circuits; (c) The recalled VP experience surrounding death merits a genuine investigation without prejudice. Concerning that one case of VP, it was validated and timed using auditory stimuli during cardiac arrest. Dr. Sam Parnia concluded, "This is significant, since it has often been assumed that these experiences are likely hallucinations or illusions, occurring either before the heart stops or after the heart has been successfully restarted, but not an experience corresponding with 'real' events when the heart isn't beating. In this case, consciousness and awareness appeared to occur during a three-minute period when there was no heartbeat. This is paradoxical, since the brain typically ceases functioning within 20-30 seconds of the heart stopping and doesn’t resume again until the heart has been restarted. Furthermore, the detailed recollections of visual awareness in this case were consistent with verified events.
Unconscious brains do not "see weird shit" or anything. The brains of people who are unconscious from cardiac arrest are not supposed to produce anything. Dr. Peter Fenwick, a neuropsychiatrist and the leading authority in Britain concerning NDEs, described the state of the brain during an NDE: "The brain isn't functioning. It's not there. It's abnormal. But, yet, it [during NDEs] can produce these very clear experiences ... an unconscious state is when the brain ceases to function. For example, if you faint, you fall to the floor, you don't know what's happening and the brain isn't working. The memory systems are particularly sensitive to unconsciousness. So, you won't remember anything. But, yet, after one of these experiences [an NDE], you come out with clear, lucid memories ... This is a real puzzle for science. I have not yet seen any good scientific explanation which can explain that fact."
I had what some would call a NDE almost 25 years ago. What I saw was a tunnel of light, very bright, not much more when I flatlined following a military HALO jump. It's nothing more than the brain doing entertaining things as it attempts to not shutdown due to a lack of O2, at least that's the way that it was explained to me and it makes sense.
I also had an NDE. A motorcycle accident due to a car driver not seeing me. I got a look in his car as my face went through his window, and put a couple of dents in his door and roof with my hand and leg respectively. I probably would have died, had not an off duty nurse just happened to be walking along the street at that moment. This meant I had medical attention almost before I finished bouncing.
As I lay on the road, I felt myself drift off into the air.
I always just put it down to my mind shutting out the pain receptors as some kind of internal defence from the pain.
Anyway, I made a full recovery with nothing more than a few scars on my hand and an impressive scar on my leg.
what branch of military???
You can't do entertaining things when you are not functioning, and same goes for your brain.
Hypoxia theory has been debunked
When i had sepsis, i could feel my brain shutting down bit by bit as i got worse. My brain was playing me music, i lost the ability to see very fast, and initially i could still feel what was going on, then it stopped hurting, then i couldn't feel anything, but could still hear for some time. Just before everything goes blank until waking up a few days later, evrything was brightly lit, and felt like i was at home, briefly (at least in my memory) before nothingness. It certainly felt very unusual, and kinda pleasant in a way, but there arent words in english to describe it well. I can understand anyone who interprets that as a religious or spiritual experience. I did, briefly. Until university, where studying physiology, anatomy, and pharmacology gave me far better explainations of my experiance.
I can say that this is how the dying process is said to go. Hearing is the last to go, which is why family members are encouraged to keep talking to their loved one til the end, even when they stop physically responding.
I nearly drowned during a church event (it was the last day and we were all out canoing). The boat my sister and I were in capsized in this sharp bend where the water sucked downward (I think it's called an eddy but I could be wrong) and I went under. Last thing I remembered was feeling completely calm, looking up at the sunlight dappling through the leaves on the slightly-rippling surface as everything faded to black.
Next thing I knew my lungs and throat were burning like crazy and I was gasping for air while one of the elders knelt over me (his boat had come by just in time and he performed CPR on me) and I was _furious_ at the fact I woke up. When I told my dad this, he brushed my experience as me simply losing consciousness because if I had actually come close to death I would've seen Heaven like he did.
The best case of verified out-of-body perception during an NDE that meets all the criteria for whole brain death is the case of Pam Reynolds. Pam's extraordinary NDE occurred while she underwent a rare surgical procedure called a "standstill" to remove a brain aneurysm. The procedure required her to: (1) become unconscious by use of an anesthetic; (2) have her body temperature lowered to 60 degrees; (3) have her heart and breathing stopped; (4) have her brain waves allowed to flatten; and (5) have all the blood drained from her head. Under these conditions, conscious awareness should be medically impossible. Yet, while Pam was in this condition, she later reported how she floated out of her body and watched the doctors operate on her lifeless body. She was able to describe in specific detail the surgical instruments, the conversations among the physicians, and the procedures performed on her during her surgery. She was reunited with deceased loved ones in heaven and was reluctant to return to her body. Pam's ability to see and hear events while out of her body which were later verified to be true is phenomenon that occurs in many NDE and is called "veridical perception." You can read the entire account by Googling this: "People have near-death experiences while brain dead" and there are many examples of this. Google this: "Out-of Body Experiences and the Near-Death Experience" verified
The "shit" that you say her mind "made up" while she was in whole brain death was verified to have actually occurred. It's called veridical out-of-body perception. The minds of brain dead people normally don't function at all. They are brain dead. Yet Pam Reynolds "saw" shit while out of her body that was later verified to have occurred such as detailed conversations among the surgeons, the surgical procedures and instruments, and the sounds in the OR. And while brain dead, she had vivid visions of an NDE. No other case of a brain dead person under scientific controls has every reported having mental experiences -- let alone veridical out-of-body perceptions. Google "People have near-death experiences while brain dead" to read the legit evidence. But I am certain you won't because you obviously didn't read the entire comment above.
Wait wait wait... your evidence for NDE is Pam, who heard conversations in the room she was in, and saw equipment... in the room she was in...
Color me impressed.
Sorry - the opposite of that: From wikipedia.
"Anesthesiologist Gerald Woerlee analyzed the case, and concluded that Reynolds' ability to perceive events during her surgery was the result of "anesthesia awareness".[5]
According to the psychologist Chris French:
Woerlee, an anesthesiologist with many years of clinical experience, has considered this case in detail and remains unconvinced of the need for a paranormal explanation... [He] draws attention to the fact that Reynolds could only give a report of her experience some time after she recovered from the anesthetic as she was still intubated when she regained consciousness. This would provide some opportunity for her to associate and elaborate upon the sensations she had experienced during the operation with her existing knowledge and expectations. The fact that she described the small pneumatic saw used in the operation also does not impress Woerlee. As he points out, the saw sounds like and, to some extent, looks like the pneumatic drills used by dentists"
She was brain dead at the time, her eyes were taped shut, and her ears were plugged. Now explain it.
www.near-death.com/science/evidence/people-have-ndes-while-brain-dead.html
TotallyRealMirage everybody is dressing funny.
Here are my observations:
1. NDEs show overwhelming cultural bias, i.e Christians meet Jesus/God, Hindus see Shiva, Vishnu, etc., but I never seen someone claim an NDE contradicting their entire previous life, except for militant Christian converts from Islam (and no other religion)
2. NDEs are 'learned experiences'. We SEE what we have been told ANECDOTALLY we will see - flowers, lights, a bridge, angels, etc.
3. People who have died have brains that are still processing information, sense, etc after respiration stops. REsuscitation allows the brain to tell you what you sensed, such as voices of doctors.
4. Everyone seems to go to their version of heaven, or at least NOT hell. Is everyone going to heaven? Do only 'good' people have NDEs? What gives?
Just my observations.
I have a hard time understanding why anybody finds NDEs mysterious. We dream and hallucinate when we sleep, hallucinate sometimes when we’re awake. Why is it “mysterious” to observe that we have vivid dreams sometimes when we’re dying? It’s just your brain’s imagination.
Sam Parnia’s AWARE II study just came out. It was proven they’re not dreams.
Everyone who has experienced an NDE say that it wasn’t a dream or hallucination and felt more real than anything.
@@Thomzz95 I have never had an NDE, but I have reviewed many incidences of NDEs. Here's my thoughts on the difference between a dream and an NDE. As you said, people claim their NDE "felt more real than anything". When they regain consciousness, they swear it was real and that it happened. Okay, I can tell you that my dreams seem as real as real can be. Very real. But when I awake, I know that the things I dreamt about did not happen and it was only a dream.
What a marvelous thing, to dream and wonder and hope.
The part that virtually disproves NDE´s is that they are socio-cultural phenomena. Christians meet Jesus, Hindus meet Vishnu, Muslims meet Gabriel or Mohammed etc. And the real fun part is, if you ask Christians to describe the Jesus they met, it´s always the super-white, blue-eyed, blond-bearded Jesus Christ Superstar, that the church made up for white Europeans and that became even whiter when exported to America. Not a single of them reported having "met" a Jesus that could have existed with dark brown/olive skin, dark brown eyes and black hair.
None of this is true, actual NDEs vary far more wildly and aren't usually consistent with what the person believed would happen in the afterlife
Yeah, as others have stated, you've gone from "organised religion is nonsense" to "there are no non-physical phaenomena". And you've cherry-picked your examples, and discounted all counter-examples, to prove it. Lazy, not good enough.
he is simply following a unified worldview which is evidence-based, backed by science with repeatable results, and properly skeptical about supernatural claims, all of which do not fall into said category. the NDE link to people's unfounded belief in afterlife myths is certainly correlated to his main subject matter and he's properly researched claims that actually have scientific backing and those that do not, presented here. go ahead and counter any of his particular assertions made here if you have substantial counter-arguments to them, but making a blanket statement about him because you got personally offended does nothing of substance really.
I would really like to try that helmet. SCIENCE!!
Hunter Chaney Me too!
Fuckin' magnets, how do they work?
Somebody had to say it. I drew the short straw.
The helmet doesn't work other scientists have tried to replicate Michael Persinger's helmet and got negative results.
I made one out of a scarf folded in half like a triangle with magnets stitched between the two layers. Then I tied it on my head. After a few hours my head was a little sore from all the hard lumps pushing on it, and I had a little headache, probably from the extra weight. But I felt very creative thinking out how I could make my own magnet headwear--before I made it.
Checkmate, skeptics!
I did too, till I heard the results couldn't be reproduced.
The kids last name being Malarkey is just fantastic
I had a out body experience my senses were much sharper
you just have to experience that before you'll ever believe it
When I was a kid I got trapped under water and as I was feeling like I really needed to breath I saw a pinpoint of light getting bigger and bigger. Brightest white light I ever saw. I heard my mom scream "where's Marissa?!" And then my brother pulled my out of the water.
I never died, just was losing oxygen. This tells me that a lot of what people experience in NDEs are from the brain dying.
The kids LAST NAME is Malarkey! We really should have seen it from a mile away.
You forgot the first stage of an NDE: The part where you say "Oh yeah? Watch this!"
life after death is real.... because consciousness is real....its something that scientists do not yet know..but the thing is, life after death has no Heaven or Hell or God...its a spiritual matter of Consciousness
Us having consciousness does not prove an afterlife. We have nothing testable to suggest that it isn’t just a byproduct of our mental processes.
@@ParadiseLordRyu obviously you do not know the nature of pure awareness...... life to you may be useless random creation and brain chemistry... life is not merely physical what we see but non physical manifesting into reality. ...the thing is you don't need to understand what i say, life will happen eventually 🙂
peace ☮️
This video just cherry picks NDE's that may not have been genuine whilst completely ignoring some very credable ones because it didnt suit the biased video. I'll give Koolaid one thing, he makes well edited videos that are interesting, but as for a balanced recount of what an NDE is, or trying to find NDE's that dont suit his argument, they are non existent here.
Love the intro sooooooo much
atticus youngs Thanks. :)
This is a subject that has been of interest to me for some time, and quite recently, I have been actively seeking out the opinions of skeptics online, in order to ascertain for myself a "full picture" of what I actually believe. I liked this video, overall, although have a few detracting thoughts (and a caveat). First, the caveat:
--I believe that "past life regression therapy" is the weakest evidence of an "afterlife" or a "continued consciousness" for a number of reasons, and used to think that NDE research could be similarly discounted (I subscribed, as you seem to, to the "dying brain goes into panic mode" explanation). I think now that my trepidation had much to do with my sources (Raymond Moody, among them), and have since discovered Dr. Bruce Greyson, whose research is quite a bit more convincing than is Moody's. I am still unconvinced that NDE's are anything spiritual or para-psychological, but do not as readily subscribe to the "dying brain" theory as I once did. So, I think it is safe for me to assert that I approach this particular topic thoughtfully, without having made any "leap to faith." Now, the criticisms:
1. You seem to assert that NDEs are hallucinations that are highly personal to the experiencer, that everybody experiences something vastly different, and that if there were more to them, there would be consistency and corroboration in the reports. This logic is deeply flawed. *Yes* culture does almost certainly impact what experiencers "see," but divorced from cultural symbolism in the NDEs, the accounts are remarkably consistent from independent actors who never knew each other and would never have had the opportunity to corroborate/conspire. Dr. Greyson developed a scale (found here: iands.org/research/nde-research/important-research-articles/698-greyson-nde-scale.html) to gauge common elements of the NDE and has found through much research that the majority of experiencers fall substantially upon the scale in their accounts.
2. The criticism of anecdotal evidence is a valid one, and one that has been leveraged upon the Past Life Memories research of Drs. Stevenson and Tucker, as well. I would posit that one personal account can be easily dismissed as anecdotal, but that thousands of accounts reported independently that appear to describe the same phenomenon with great consistency is not anecdotal, and deserving of further scientific inquiry. Any rationally minded individual, I believe, would agree with me.
3. The idea that DMT may explain NDEs is an interesting one, but is not currently supported by science. Specifically, DMT is not known to be produced naturally in the pineal gland, so the assertion that it is remains plausible, but ultimately speculative (www.psypost.org/2018/01/no-reason-believe-pineal-gland-alters-consciousness-secreting-dmt-psychedelic-researcher-says-50609). Further research indicates that while DMT might mimic *some* of the common elements of an NDE, it does not mimic all of the common elements on Greyson's scale with any reliability: www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/out-the-darkness/201810/near-death-experiences-and-dmt
To quote: "Of the 16 items in the NDE scale used in the study, 9 items showed a high degree of ‘crossover.' These included an ‘unearthly environment,’ a sense of peace, heightened senses, harmony/unity, altered time perception, feeling of joy, bright light, and so on. However, all 9 of these characteristics are generally associated with ‘spiritual’ or ‘mystical’ experiences, rather than just NDEs. It is well known that NDEs have a strong spiritual or mystical element to them, which is partly why they have such a powerful life-changing effect. But NDEs are not just spiritual experiences. And significantly, the 7 items in this study where there was the least crossover between NDEs and DMT were those which differentiate NDEs from standard spiritual experiences."
4. At the risk of making an appeal to authority, there are plenty in the medical community that find the "dying brain" hypothesis dubious. Some have experienced NDEs themselves, most notably, Dr. Eben Alexander, a neurosurgeon. Dr. Mary C. Neal, an orthopedic surgeon is another. And you cherry-picked your data from respected researchers such as van Lommel (www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(01)07100-8/fulltext) and Parnia, neither of whom (to my knowledge) have proposed either the "dying brain" or the "expectancy model" as the be-all/end-all to NDEs.
This is not to say that they are not-- they might be, and I think they are as plausible of explanations as any other. The facts are, though, that NDEs do remain inexplicable in conventional neuroscience, and I would caution that we should not be immediately dismissive of the phenomenon as explicable.
The difficulty with this type of "research", of course, is the inability to replicate the research with a control, as well as to measure the phenomenon in real time with medical instruments. We are simply not there yet, on either front, unfortunately. This should rightly cause apprehension among both "skeptics" and "believers"-- neither should jump in on absolute evidence that is simply not there.
Excellent response! I would also like to point out the research of Dr. Kenneth Ring in his books Life at Death and Mindsight: Near-Death and Out-of-Body Experiences in the Blind. Dr. Ring was a co-founder of IANDS.
Circa 1977 I had an OOBE in a movie theatre in Dayton Ohio. The movie was very boring. I floated up to the rafters in the theatre.
It is pretty easy to IMAGINE what the theatre would look like from the rafters. I just inserted that imagination, like a dream, into my reality projection. It could literally have been a dream.
I said to myself "What the heck" and instantly I was back in my body.
A centrifuge is not how fighter pilots experience the affects of hypoxia, it is where they acclimate themselves to g-force. Pilots (and divers as well) are shown the affects of hypoxia by entering a vacuum chamber where the oxygen is removed slowly and the subject is asked to perform tasks that illustrate the affect.
I had an NDE, except that I experienced...nothing. The same as being heavily sedated for surgery, no sense of even time.
As is oft pointed out, the most important word in Near Death Experience, is NEAR.
My father drowned in the Philippines during WWII. He was out for a while before regaining consciousness.
During that time he had a super vivid vision in which he claims to have seen heaven. He has lived his life certain that he will go to heaven when he dies. I think that is why he never questioned his cruelty or self obsession. He assumes he is bound for heaven and that means he is a good guy, no matter what he does. If he does a thing, it must be good.
It is interesting how large and frankly determining role is played by cultural expectations. People who are part of different cultures see different things in an NDE, depending upon their cultural expectations.
People in Japan often see paradise as a bright shining futuristic city with mile high highways and shiney futuristic automobiles.
My father is certain that the reason I experienced nothing when my heart stopped briefly, in a hospital, because I am an atheist. He now believes that atheists experience real death. He was glad to believe that at least I wasn't going to hell.
I think Holy Koolaid does an excellent job of covering this issue.
@Frankie Basile No such thing has happened. The visions people have will depend upon their expectations. Japanese people see a radically different version of paradise.
There have been numerous studies where numbers and sometimes odd objects are put in a place where they can not be seen from the floor.
Those things were placed in operating rooms where heart surgery was performed and in recovery rooms for heart surgery patients.
they studied a number of people who had the near death experience. There are no documented cases of anyone seeing anything they should not have seen.
There was one woman who seemed to have done it, describing a shoe on a roof that could not be seen from the operating room.
She later admitted she had seen the tennis shoe on the roof from the window of another ward she had been in and indeed, it could be seen from the room she had been in previously.
You are not dead when those visions happen but you are close and your brain is freaking out.
A lot of claims have been made but none properly documented.
The key word in NDE is Near.
@Frankie Basile that is a family story, an anecdote that is not proof of anything. memory is a strange creature and stories change with time without the teller even noticing.
It has never been documented in a controlled environment.
NDE is only experience in about 10-20% of people, nobody denies it.
According to Sam Parnia, an NDE researcher, you might have had it, but forgot it after. And also, according to him, people generally see the same stuff, but later interpret it on the basis of their own religion, all it took to find out was to inquire a bit more, then most of them say they only assumed they met Jesus, God etc.
Sigh. I just want to thank you for this video. As a former Christian I feel like saying “God bless you” (force of habit). Honestly, you’re just the best and painfully underrated.
I think it's more fascinating how you can influence someone's brain with a near death experience from a special helmet, than angels supposedly visiting you when you almost die.
You are criminally undersubbed. Top video!
Even if NDE phenomena are a product of the human nervous system and cultural factors, it does not necessarily preclude a potential (non-NDE) afterlife experience of some kind. As Sagan observed, "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." Truth is, we simply do not know. I favor a skeptical but ultimately agnostic view here. Anything else seems pretentious and biased.
David Pohlman But ehen an entire ideaoligy/opinion is based on "well just belive in it" or "my mom friend of a friend of a cousin of this guy said he heard someone saw Jesusnona toast", You cant have the privilge of being called a legit opinion.
I think our Divine Creator's Love is so immense, we are presented with our expectation.
I'm Wiccan, and that's pretty much the concept for a great many of ppl in our faith...that when you pass, you go where you expect to go. This means that if a person is an atheist, if they expect to simply cease to exist, that that's what will occur. It's kind of along the same lines of the Islamic concept of the afterlife for the faithful... Janna(Paradise)..that what or who the believer wishes to be there, will be there.
Like I suspected, before I even viewed this video I intuitively knew that you had never experienced a NDE yourself. So essentially you are talking out of your ass, about things you have no real experience with. I on the other hand have experienced quite a few NDEs in my life. Multiple things I lived through that all known medical science says I should be dead many times over again. Nice cherry picking with the NDE examples and research you showed to btw to support your naturalistic world view that you obviously have a predisposition to.
Thank you for shedding some light on why it is that so many atheists have such an obvious fear of the "supernatural" being proven to be real. I make this accusation based on evidence. Your very admissions at the end of this video for starters. World famous Atheistic scientist Lawrence Krauss has stated in a number of interviews, panel board discussions and debates that he doesn't want to live in a universe where God exists, that the thought of God's existence and anything supernatural is depressing for him. Krauss is one of many atheistic scientists that have said and made similar statements. Thank you for showing and proving to me that I am well justified to not trust a single word that comes out of any atheist mouth, or any scientific published paper that any atheist has published. Until atheists at large as a whole community start expressing themselves in ways that prove and show that you are actually open minded and objective about the possibility that the supernatural is real, and that you would even welcome that and see it as an amazing, wondrous thing that would benefit everyone if and when the supernatural can be proven to be a thing, I will go on (as I suspect most Christians will) not trusting atheists at all.
In other words atheists if you want theistic minded people to take you seriously, and you desire for us to see you as good people who are just doing their best to make sense out of this thing we call life and reality, then I suggest you start being a lot more open minded regarding supernatural claims, because whether you know it or not you are being highly disrespectful, rude, insulting, and offensive.
+COSMIC Phoenix i like how you couldnt actually refute the contents of his video; all that you did was attack atheists. thats pretty rude dont ya think? can you explain the problems with the research? what was wrong with his examples?
"thank you for showing and proving to me that I am well justified to not trust a single word that comes out of any atheist mouth, or any scientific published paper that any atheist has published." so if your doctor says that hes an atheist, your just going to ignore all of his medical advice? you're just going to do the opposite of what your atheist mechanic tells you to do? if an atheist says "eating rat poison is dangerous" your going to eat it anyway? thats extremely irrational, why dont you actually read the research to see if its valid? i dont dismiss doctors for being Christian. i dont agree with Ben Carson at all,but i wouldnt have a problem with him operating on me.
"Until atheists at large as a whole community start expressing themselves in ways that prove and show that you are actually open minded and objective about the possibility that the supernatural is real. and that you would even welcome that and see it as an amazing, wondrous thing that would benefit everyone if and when the supernatural can be proven to be a thing" ever heard of an agnostic atheist? most atheists are open to the possibility of an afterlife existing,but we arent convinced that it exists yet. why would we welcome it as an amazing thing if it hasnt been proven to exist yet? why would i say " the afterlife is a place of magic and wonder" if i never even saw it? it could be a good thing or a bad thing. it depends on the type of afterlife, and it depends on the type of supernatural beings.
"In other words atheists if you want theistic minded people to take you seriously, and you desire for us to see you as good people who are just doing their best to make sense out of this thing we call life and reality, then I suggest you start being a lot more open minded regarding supernatural claims" so are you expecting me to believe every single claim that i hear? sorry thats not going to happen. there's a difference between being open minded and being gullible. im not going to automatically believe a supernatural claim because i need to see the evidence first.
Amazing...
Funnily enough Sam Parnia’s study in case with the cards there was actually one OBE who recalled it but how convenient how u left that out the video huh 😁
Also Sam Parnia himself seems to imply that there is a consciousness after death.
Study is hella flawed though. If you're having an obe, who the hell is paying attention to some cards?
Mines is completely opposite. I had a Near Life Experience 😌. 😶
2:18 That they are. There are some aspects that are universal such,but others are determined by your beliefs, culture, environment or emotions, sometimes directly, sometimes indirectly practically with children.
Even then some people see nothing but darkness.
I blacked out from some pain killers once. I did not see a God just the peaceful silence of the black abyss.
chaos is a ladder I hope heaven is real in my opinion
Ironically, it might be theoretically possible to experience "eternal life after death" - kinda - due to the death throws that the brain goes through at death. We know that our sense/perception of time is a product of the brain. So if the time perception part of our brain malfunctions in just the right way during an NDE before death, then it should be possible to experience what could seem like an eternal afterlife, during the few minutes that it takes for us to completely die.
Caribbean Man That would suck though because its all in your head :(
Yeah but you might not really be aware of that fact just as we aren't aware that we're dreaming while we're dreaming - most times, at least. Perception is reality.
Caribbean Man So the time would just pass by insanely fast?
Deepto Chatterjee no it would seem like normal because your brain is telling you it’s how it’s supposed to be.
Nice hypothesis! The only problem is, there is no time perception part of the brain. We only experience time in the forward direction because of entropy, not because there is a special place within the brain that controls how we experience time. Especially since time as we understand really doesn't exist! And no two people experience time in the same way. Time is relative. And eternal means just that, eternal. It doesn't end when the brain dies. Otherwise how could it be eternal?
But why are so many peoples 'describing heaven' at all? If it's merely hallucination your brain can hallucinate ANYTHING, yet near death experiences consistently report similarly themed scenarios that describe conditions of life after death. If it was hallucination the experiences would surely be as random as dreams? why are so many people reporting meeting dead relatives and personalities from religious traditions, having life reviews, experiencing expanded consciousness and learning similar lessons?
When I was 14 me and my friends saw transparent figure fairly close running left to right in slow motion, becoming more transparent with every run. The figures disappeared during mid-run. They were four of who saw this.
It an assumption that ghost are people who are past away, but we don't know for sure.
2 Big flaws.
#1. People who hallucinate do not come back from the hallucination and live their lives totally different. And no longer have a fear of death.
#2. The grand majority of NDE'S collaborate the basic details of the experience. If the NDE'S were fabricating this phenomenon, wouldn't they try to outdo each other's stories?
In my Christian walk I have never had an NDE. ( thank God). However I have had a lot of experiences with that Holy Spirit realm. So yes there is absolutely no question that many of them are relating true, factual events.
+generalmax "People who hallucinate do not come back from the hallucination and live their lives totally different." they do if theyre convinced that its a sign from a diety.
" The grand majority of NDE'S collaborate the basic details of the experience. If the NDE'S were fabricating this phenomenon, wouldn't they try to outdo each other's stories?" he never said that they were all fabricating it. he clearly says "im not saying that these people didnt experience something odd"
"However I have had a lot of experiences with that Holy Spirit realm. So yes there is absolutely no question that many of them are relating true, factual events." an anecdote isnt evidence, you have to prove that your claim is true. people from other religions claim to have supernatural experiences that involve their specific beliefs. does this prove that other religions are true? some people claim to be time travelers; some people say that they met alien human hybrids. do you believe these stories as well?
generalmax at the end of the day it doesn’t matter at all if they believe it or not. What’s real is what’s real.
Wonderdully done, as always! I love you work!
Halucinations.
I just discovered you Holy Koolaid, your videos are brilliant, I love how clearly you explain everything, so even people without much education (like myself) can understand it. I am long and huge fan of C.Hitchens, R. Dawkins, Sam Harris, Neil Degrasse Tyson, D. Dennet, Mat Dillahunty, recently I discovered Rationality Rules, and now you. Keep up great job. I forgot to mention James Randi. And Bill Maher of course, among many others. But these are basically people I am inspired by and now you're among them.
I have temporal lobe epilepsy (petit mal/partial seizures). Before I knew the episodes were my brain having an electrical malfunction, I swore my psychoactive thoughts and hallucinations were from god. That was the only explanation that made sense to me at the time.
Debunking NDE? Sounds pretty ridicoulous and arrogant.
I've never had a NDE but I've experienced Sleep Paralysis about 10 times and it was very strange feeling like another entity was there however I no way of knowing what the mind is capable of generating and it would be more logical to conclude that the mind is generating such things than malicious spirits are paying you a visit?
In the video, the skeptic argues that all NDEs should be the same if they were real afterlife experiences. He argues they are all so varied and based upon cultural exposure; so therefore, this falsifies NDEs against being real afterlife experiences. But if all NDEs were exactly identical, it would make the "dying brain theory" more appealing. It would show NDEs are only experiences coming from "hard-wired" brains. But because they are different, this shows they are not "hard-wired" experiences, but rather dynamic experiences -- like life in general. NDEs are very similar to lucid dreaming -- an experience of virtual reality where all things are mentally possible. And just as one person's dream is different from another, so do differences between NDEs correspond with reality. NDEs are very private, personal experience - as private as a person's clothes, hair color, language, size, etc. What a person experiences can be attributed to many factors: the NDEr's psychology, personal experiences, background, etc. -- not just culture. One of the truths of the NDE is that each person integrates their NDE into their own preexisting belief system. Everyone is unique and everyone experiences the world in a way that is unique to anyone else in the universe. It is the same with NDEs. Reality exists in the mind of the beholder. In ordinary life, we create our own reality from the actions we take and the thoughts we think inwardly. The NDE appears to be no different.
It's true that some of the "symptoms " of NDE's have been reproduced with certain kinds of brain stimulation. However none of the participants in those experiments were individuals with zero readable brain activity. Since that is a requirement for NDEs one must come to the conclusion that, while interesting, those experiments have no validity in reference to the NDE experience.
The truth of the matter is that none of us know for certain either way until we actually die. Sure, we can all speculate. But by it's very definition, none of us know for certain.
Great video. Didn't expect so many theistic trolls in the comments (I don't know why). You must be doing something right. :)
Nice content! Keep it up!
Maybe most of the survivors do not remember the experience? For example we all have dreams and some people recall a dream every morning, whereas others rarely recall one.
Dude this guy has been debunked look at www.near-death.com/philosophy/skepticism/skeptic-hoax-nde-and-fraud-exposed.html and the fact that hes name is "Holy Koolaid" just screams immature and childish........
There are actually movies in telugu, tamil and other languages on the opening yama, his accountant chitragupta making a mistake, sending back people, yeah that's true and I'm Indian hindu who speaks Telugu and have seen such movies.
What a load of BS dont believe these lies
It is not not a dream, is dream like because both happen in ur head.
If this one physical life is all there is then nothing at all makes any sense. We come into this life most of us experiencing more than of our share of hurt, heartache, suffering, and sorrow and then after all this pain and misery, we fade off into oblivion. Why did we come into existence at all? If this the real story then something or somebody has a very sick sense of humor.
You got it. Everything we know has a reason, therefore there is no reason to think that life has none to begin with. The reamaining question would be "what reason/purpose ?" and NDEs make sense in that perspective.
Why did we come into existence at all? Well you see when mommy and daddy love each other very much... didn't your parents have the birds and the bees discussion with you
"Why did we come into existence"? Because there was no alternative.
To expand on that let me answer another question that is often asked of Atheists: why is there something rather than nothing? This question assumes that "nothing" could or would exist if God had not created our Universe, but when you look a bit deeper you realize that the existence of "nothing" is an impossibility, and once we accept that the existence of "nothing" is an impossibility, then we must also accept that there was always going to be "something", with or without the help of a god "something" must exist when the existence of "nothing" is impossible.
We came into existence because of that "something", and once the ball started rolling, we were always going to exist. It's up to us to make this existence special.
I had a near death experience a couple of years ago but it turned out that I was just in Morecambe.
I literally ‘awww’ed at the little who say Santa. I found it cute 😋
BTW, the idea of using the God Helmet with VR is amazing!
I have personally had a NDE and let me tell you unless you actually experienced it, it is impossible to fathom. Its kind of similar to DMT except its a lot more warm and peaceful. I also know for a fact that I was outside my body because I heard a conversation between my mother and father, both of whom were in another room in the hospital and I was able to remember their conversation about me, they also confirmed their conversation topic was in fact the one I heard, went from an atheist to believer in god basically overnight. And it doesnt matter what anyone says or tries to "prove" me wrong. I was dead, my brain was inactive and the surgeons said there was no signs of brain activity, yet I could experience an hallucination? Doesnt make sense, do some DMT and hopefully you will see a more warm loving path to the afterlife. I learned love is the most important thing in this world, and God has so much of it!
I really doubt the doctors told you there was no brain activity. You wouldn't be here if you were brain dead. No one comes back when their brain is dead. You were under a lot of medication, so not really strange your brain was doing crazy things.
We pretty much understand the natural world.
But question here: How can you hear without an ear? You need an ear drum, Neaurons and a brain to hear.
How do you interact with vibrating air molecules.
How can you interact with photons?
You just admitted you can get the same experience taking drugs. DRUGS. So it's not special after all! You're basically getting high.
@@rhondahoward8025 It's not as simple as "drugs". Dmt is probably the most insane substance known to man, we don't have a clue on how it works or why people see certain things during it. Even consciousness cannot be proved that it occurs within the brain, there are a lot of things in this world that cannot be explained. Even Nicola Tesla said "The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence".
@@user-cr5yv5ho2i Even if what you say is true, you say you went from atheist to "believer in god basically overnight". Okay, but which God? I'm betting you're gonna say Jesus or something if you're from the Western world. And if you were a Hindu, you probably saw a Hindu God. If you were a Muslim, Allah, etc.
But all this really proves is that something STRANGE is happening. Having a crazy experience like that and simplifying it to "Gawd dun it" is still reductive as fuck.
Near death experiences are definitely a phenomenon but the whole point is we don't know WHAT they could mean.
Ok, the kid who made up the NDE was named Malarkey… no one saw that as a red flag?
Well done.... except for the diarrhea part! I have to admit, when I was still a Theist, this is one of the things I took as proof there is an afterlife. Thanks for sharing this, it is important.
In the end it does not matter. You are the creator of your reality. Know thyself.
I had a NDE once I was kicked to the floor by a group of people and then strangled, I was floating above looking down on the crowd and I could see myself, Then as quick as I was doing that I felt a pins and needles feeling in my hands and I was back in my body.
Even though it felt real to me, I put it down to oxygen deprivation and chemicals in the brain, I was close to death and it was the brains way to ease me into it.
Or not.
@@VinceMengerwow you blew my mind.
U want to experience this with out dieing, stay awake for 7 days, lucid dream, get high.
If you end up seeing a flying donkey in your room, that has nothing to do with seeing and observing something that happen in a Total different room that can be verified, later as something that really happened, because a flying donkey is not real it's a Hallucination. But seeing a conversation or something else for that matters is not a Hallucination because it happens in the real world, and if it happens in the real world and others can verified and see this also as happening in real world, it's not a Hallucination because Hallucination is only in your mind not in the minds of others, if i say the moon is made of cheese you might call me a idioot because you know it isn't true, but if i say the moon is a space rock created by different kind of elements 384,000 km away from us, you most likley would say that is true, because it is true. A Hallucination has nothing to do with reality.
I had a near death experience when I was 6. A cardiac arrest. I was watching a movie when it happened and I hallucinated to be in this movie (Asterix conquers America). It was fun but I never thought about taking it for real. Sad that people can not feel happy about their experiences without claiming that they're true.
You really cherry picked here. Especially with Sam Parnia's work. He explained the low hit rate and there was a verification of the one NDE... It happened on a ward and not in the area where target images were. Nevertheless, the patients description of the events, and people attending were verified. Its easy to find this information, so I'm not sure why you missed this key fact out... I guess it didn't fit your narrative based in your own arrogance...
Aren't you cherry picking too
@@aaronhepler8070 No.