Upcycle Old Stuff! How To Make Tubeless Conversion On Your Old Bike Almost For Free. Bicycle Hacks.
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All parts on bike are non - tubeless and one of the parts I'll use in this tutorial comes from the trash! Have fun watching it! - บันเทิง
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Easily the best bicycle channel on utube. So much experience and commonsense in place of consumerism. 😃👌
Nope, have you heard of Berm Peak?
Just did tubeless conversion using the valve from an old inner tube and here's what I did differently: I cut off almost all rubber from the base of the valve, leaving maybe a millimeter around it. I then cut a square o-ring from a silicone vacuum hose and slid it on the valve, so that the rubber that I left on it backs up this o-rig and doesn't let it slip from the end of the valve. On the rim I put a strip of Gorilla tape over the existing rim tape (the wheel was already set up for tubeless) in the area of the valve hole. I then punctured a small hole in Gorilla tape right over the center of the valve hole and pushed the valve through. I finally threaded the nut on the valve giving some pre-load to the o-ring, creating a tight seal.
Me: Watching this video.
Tube of my tire: Don't you dare.
Confirmed. Been doing the same for years. Not for road bike pressures. Only mtn bike.
What do you do when you have to add sealant? Can you do it with track pump (200 psi)?
I'm surprised the electrical tape is working. Good to know. However, I would spend the $15 on the valves before drilling into my rims.
Totally agree :)
Great tip. Use the left over tube as chainstay protector for more savings.
Or make tons of rubber bands from it with a scissor!
Very nicely done man! (As usual) can't wait to try it!
your ideas is always brilliant ! I have think of this sometime , but you made it
great video...answered a lot of my questions
Last month
I has same idea with you
Now u are success and make a video about it
Congratulations 😜🤙 nice jobbb
I'm glad that you fixed that typo 👍
Long term performance report please.
Thank you for the great video 👍♥️🙏
you the man!.. thanks for sharing...
Brilliant video.
Getting good at tubeless so gave myself a test: use the original alloy wheels of my 1977 steel bike, old Gravel Kings, makeshift stems and electrical tape. Worked! Several old tire pinholes sealed up nicely; a stem needed a makeshift O ring (small rubber band wrapped around its base). Nice no-cost conversion. I wonder how they'll hold up with heavy use, especially on gravel.
did you do this on 700c? I had someone at my local shop tell me if I did something like this on gravelkings and a 700c rim id end up killing myself lol
@@bryanschraven4780 Yes, 700c rims. I think he's concerned the bead might pop off the rim with stress. That's a legit consideration.
@@bryanschraven4780 PS. This was an experiment. I've ridden it several times, no issues. The smoothest ride ever. But I'm not confident it will hold, particularly on the critical front wheel. So with safety in mind, I'm going back to light weight tubes.
A pair of tubeless valves are 3 USD on Ali. I think I fainted for a bit when you started to drill the damn wheel instead of putting an O-ring between the rim and the valve. Also you can use your local version of gorilla tape which is modifiable in width. If you want to go super fancy Tesa 4288 or 4289. Or comparable Scotch model. (i would rather buy a new rim than remove gorilla tape)
Wd 40 removes gorilla glue residue really well
I have been using a similar method with gorilla tape. But your electrical tape may be better as there would be less residue left behind on the rim, when you want to change the tape.
Best channel ever
We need an update on this! How effective was it?
nice hack video, i was really hoping to find a cheap alternative, i've had trouble finding some tubeless tape that wold work and do not cost a kidney, anhe the valve thing, i really hope it works too
I will try it on my vintage rim
ty man
I will try drilling a bigger valve hole in my carbon rims
Love it😊
Top work 😉
Hi brand new subscriber to your channel. And I seen some wonderful videos of you talking about road bike wheel sets and how you like Mavic. But they put the cheapest wheel set on the best Cannondale frame but it was still OK. I have a question for you have you ever heard of the wheel brand VUELTA . A couple of years of i’ll go I Purchased a set of vuelta corsa team v wheel set . And I was just wondering how they are regarded in the cycle world. My front wheel spins for ever just wanna and it does do that trick that you said when you spin it if the bike is upside down and I only do that on my shag rug in the living room not on the concrete if the bike is upside down and I spin the front wheel the air valve stops at 6 o’clock. And when I mean the thing spends forever it dose . In the back spins really long to except the free hub slows it down a bit. They are Eloi wheels but they are the aerodynamic they are shallow aerodynamic I would say not very deep but they are definitely a V-shaped chrome Molly spokes what red aluminum anodized nipples they really look cool. But if you heard or have an opinion on them please let me know thank you very much. Oh by the way my bike is a 2000 Le Mans Nevada city 853 steel frame and fork with everything 6700 Ultregra what is FSA carbon fiber handlebars FSA carbon fiber seat post and a time carbon fiber seat the whole thing with computer aboard in a small under the seat Bag weighs in at 19.8 pounds I don’t think that’s bad for steel. My next move is to get SLK carbon fiber compact Crank set just to look cool. LOL
Instead of drilling rim maybe try finding an o-ring that will fit?
Or just some Silastic
You had me hooked until you brought out the drill. Doh!!!
yeah, he could just use some silicone or whatever
Thanks
Nice vid.
Nice video good🥰🥰🙏🙏🙏
What about schrader valve?
One other question sorry for bothering you. Could I use a sram Red 10 speed compact crankset on my vibe that is all Ultegra 6700. Thank you very much
if ultegra 6700 is 10 speed then probably, however if you are buying parts i would recommend you buy the appropriate Shimano part as this will be best. if you have the sram part lying around, just give it a go and if it doesnt work, sell it so you can buy the shimano part.
Could you use this valve like on a thumbnail?
6:34 not only that. You can´t even unscrew it to get Sealing trough.
SO and at last i give you a tip For Cheap Great Tubeless Tape!!!
Get Tesa 4289, it cost about 10€ and a roll has great 60 meters of Tape on it.
When using Electrical Tape, it can get burst because it is to soft for the Air Pressure. The 4289 has stretching newton of 420 what is quite way more than Eletrical Tape!
The Last tip i can get you: Use 24" Tube and cut it in half, so the Top Side goes awy which has mostly the punture in it. Also great to use it when you cant use the Smal ventil on your rim, so you need to use the bigger one.
Then Please thinkl of that he can save money oon the Tyre because this one is already Tubeless Ready! Dont try to use your old not ready tyre. You will get not happy with that!
So now have fun with that =)
>Use 24" Tube and cut it in half, so the Top Side goes awy which has mostly the punture in it
I don't understand any of this
@@oftankoftan Sorry German Try EN =)
Cut the Top Half of the Tube along the Seamless on the Side. Hope it helps =/
can i use a regular tred/tire grip for tubeless or do i have to use tubeless tires
there are many videos on youtube where people use non tubeless tires, although I think the sidewalls might let the sealant leak, but that would possibly differ from one sealant to another. About this I was thinking of doing a coating inside the tire with maybe glue or some thing that won't let the sealant leak from the walls (possibly even an old inner tube)
@@joshe2420 thanks
New garage? Do a tour
I think i'll just live with the inner tube.
The real killer is the $$$ $ealant going back to tubes cheaper that the $ealer. I Had thought of using a watered down PVA and corn flower mix but...
Hello. I have polygon path 2 as my bike with altus 8speed rd. My question is.. can i change my rd with shimano claris 8 speed for my bike?. Thanks in advance.
altus is mtb groupset and claris is road bike groupsed, shifters pull different amount of cable...in theory it could work but it's simpler to buy something like deore 8 speed
lunatiy thank you for the advice.
If your rim is not meant to be Tubeless convertible I've heard that this type of conversion is dangerous as the tire cou1d fly off because of the rim specs not being really made for tubeless. yes or no? Safe or not Safe?
Probably not.
Bullcrap.
In some rims the welds have hole between them, so it will be impossible to convert to tubeless, but that will surface instantly if you put air in it and put it under water.
It's not unsafe, the tire will only fly off if the pressure is low
He showed the idea with a valve 4 years ago on his YT Children Of The Loam channel. You repeat its manual step by step.
Can it work with Schrader valve?
Yes
I wouldn't use electrical tape because it gets dry and loosens over a not so long time. What happens if you hit a curb really hard?
I just changed a tire that had been on the rim for years. When I set it up years ago I ran out of rim tape half way so finished with electrical tape. After all this time both tapes were still doing a good job.
Do you have to have to use a special type of rim or will it work if I tape it?
I have the same question.
Answer is in description
Electrical tape. He clearly stated this multiple times. Electric tape is cheap and easy to apply onto rim.
Gorilla tape is stronger but more difficult to apply.
@@willphillips1420 technically, yes, however i myself and many other people have tubeless setups with standard rims and tyres that hold up just fine.
If a have a regular tire, i can use tubeless?
probably possible with enough creativity and ghetto but otherwise not recommended.
The tire beads are different. The tubeless tire bead puts a flatter larger surface of rubber against the inner wall of the wheel.
How many turns of electrical tape?
4:45 2 wraps
so if a non tubeless rim is fitted with a tubeless ready tire it will still work if its set properly???
Only with inner tube. The profile of the TR rim is different.
@@Velogihow do you think people ran tubeless before tubeless rims came out? The first people to run tubeless built up enough tape and used "non tubelees" tires because tubeless rims and tires didn't exist
You can use homemade sealent for an even cheaper job
recipe?
Let us know how to do it yourself
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WD40 will do, right? Only have that on hand due to quarantine.
No no nO! You need to just think outside the inner tube.
Have to use tubeless tire?
I do not use special tire and it works good.
@@juliansiefert2330 how long have you use it?
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I bought a wheelset 650b that does not appear to be tubeless wheelset or Tubeless compatible. Now, I've heard that it is very dangerous if your wheelset is not made for going tubeless and you attempt to convert the whee1set if it is not meant to be converted. Stories about tires blowing off and terrible accidents. Your thoughts Denny? I would 1ike to go tubeless.
what's the rim depth and is it double walled ?
if it is quite shallow you may have problems, but if it is regular mtb rim and double walled I doubt there is going to be a big issue.
Just get nice tubeless tyres and stems and you are all set to go.
As for tires ripping off, that happens even with the good tubeless set of wheels and tires.
@@mstvir Thanks for response..... It is an Alex rim double walled 23 internal width and pretty deep. I thought deep was worse? I just heard of some people getting hurt on the net which is why I am a bit cautious about doing it.
Its good, but now can I find DIY cheap sealant?
DIY sealant isn't cheaper unless you make big batches. Latex is expensive in small amounts, and other ingredients cost $$ too.
@@dugldoo I find the solution! water + sugar + toilet paper) it works good!!!
@@nazariihrabarchuk6556 Interesting. Bagpipers used to use treacle, molasses or honey along with glycerin to make their goatskin bags air tight. So you use something like that. How long does it last? How often do you have to pump up your tires?
@@dugldoo as minimum 3 months, and we can always add water) I pump 1-2 times at months
wait what, so i can actually turn my wheel which isn´t rated as tubeless wheels into tubeless wheels by changing the tape ?
Maybe, depends on your rim's edge or bead, how smooth its surface.. if leaks the air, you have to change to tubeless rims
I think you will need to start with a tubeless rim and a tubeless tyre anyway, just this is a cheap way to hack around other "accessories"
What is different between tubeless and with tube bro?
The weight
You can run lower pressures, no punctures and it's lighter
@@cozmo4694 you mean no snake bites, because punctures will still happen, they'll just get plugged by the sealant.
Tubeless tires are supposed to be wider.
I'm wondering if it would be possible to convert a 26 x 1.5 tire to tubeless.
Don’t do this, valves are cheap. And if you do, use gorilla tape and not electrical tape.
Hope you use an old useless tube since you need a tube for emergency repair on the trail...
Cry
@@timesup6386nobody is crying dummy
Who is Julia ?
I've done this a million times.
If you leave the valve has you hadd it after the first cut.. you don't need to do all that drilling, etc... :)
Don't see to much sense in converting to tubeless.
Only for winning some grams in weight?..
The tubes weight is rotating mass sitting outermost on your wheels, so it will have more of an effect than saving the same weight on cassette or disc brakes.
As it is unsprung weight it will also have more of an effect on handling than saving the weight on the frame or taking a dump before your ride.
You also get more grip because the tire can deform better to the ground surface and you can also run lower pressure for even more grip.
also you will not need to stop every time your tube gets a small puncture. So you will be able to ride more time and without worrying about flat tires!
The only real benefit is climbing grip.
On low pressure on tubes you're risking to tear off the valve.
On low pressure on tubeless you'll get tyre slip, depressurization and wont be able to pump it again in fields, that's worse then ripped tube
Isn't that so?
@@tomekvilmovskiy6547 yes, that is possible to happen. But if you be careful when choosing the correct tire pressure, it won't happen. Only if your tires are on very very low pressure (you will not be able to ride at this point hahaha) or if you shred very hard on a berm, for example.
Tubeless tires and rims also have a different design: the rims have some kind of grooves inside where tires can fit, so they "huge" them.