The more i see awards ceremonies like The Oscars or The Grammys the more i realize they're pointless. Didn't most of the judges literally not watch all of the nominees for animated picture this year or something?
Edgar Wright is operating on a level above 99% of directors. The love and attention to detail he puts into every aspect of his craft is phenomenally inspiring.
I have a very mild tinnitus and the beginning made me very paranoid lol. The feeling of not being able to distinguish whether the sound came from myself is unsettling.
Same here. When I first started getting tinnitus, I always asked for someone to shut off that damned noise. Then I found out what was going on. War isn't exactly quite and being 3 feet from machine guns being fired doesn't help either.
I have a disorder called Postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome. Along with my nervous system not working right, my blood vessels don’t adjust when I move so, my blood pressure bottoms out and all the blood pools in my extremities, so all the organs in my head don’t get enough blood. I get tinnitus, lose vision and balance whenever I go from sitting to standing. Now it’s starting to happened randomly and more frequently and I don’t know what causes it anymore. It’s starting to drive me crazy. I can’t imagine living with it 24/7
Right? Like, I get that it's there to try and show people without it what it's like but yeesh it actually started to give me a headache because it was that much worse than what my tinnitus usually is.
Agreed. cool idea on paper because it gives people without the problem a way to better understand it, bad idea in practice because for people who have to deal with the problem it just agitates it further.
I thought my tinnitus was acting up as well, even with the fans I have running in my room to drown it out- even though my tinnitus is usually a slightly lower pitch o.o
"I'm going to have to take away something that you love" and then he renders Baby incapable of hearing music ever again. What an absolutely devastating way to make good on your threat.
Just wanna drop in here a year later and mention handgun calibers shot next to your head aren't going to permanently render you deaf. It's quite painful, and definitely causes permanent damage, but you *can* recover.
So, as a future Audiologist I love this movie even more now. Originally I just loved how integrated the music was and how active it was rather than being this passive element. It wasn't an afterthought - the movie was SHAPED by the music selected. As for tinnitus, your definition works in the case of hearing loss. When you have damage to the cochlea, we often find the brain responding to the lack of stimuli by creating this noise. And since we don't regenerate the cells that detect pitch, that natural hearing ability is gone forever, and so we often live with tinnitus from that point on. The worse our hearing gets, the worse the tinnitus can become. However, there are people especially sensitive to sounds, perhaps fearing loud or stressful noises, who technically don't have traditional hearing loss. Sometimes they've experienced a loud, traumatic instance (like a car accident) and they notice tinnitus after. And since it's related to a loud, scary incident, the tinnitus creates an emotional response - may that be something like fear or stress - and only reminds them of that trauma. Our limbic system (responsible for pain and fear) has now associated the tinnitus to emotion. So, in some cases tinnitus is even more than a response of losing our natural hearing. It's a remnant of trauma that is constantly there in our own heads, either reminding us of what happened, or simply stressing you out because it won't go away. So my understanding of Baby is even greater now. Not only is he just bothered by the ringing and chooses to listen to music as a way to overcome it...the ringing is a constant reminder of the trauma he experienced that also took his mother, the one that imbued him with a love of music, from him. To hear the ringing is to remember that moment and lose her again. To listen to music pushes that away and brings her back to him again. Beautiful.
As a tinnitus sufferer, I honestly had NO idea that there was ringing throughout the entire movie, until I watched this. After I saw this piece for the first time, I mentioned it to my partner, who was stunned that I didn't know about it. "How could you not hear it?!? It drives me crazy!" Well... you can't hear whistling that matches the whistling you hear 24/7/365. Fun stuff.
Thank you, man. I sharply identified with this movie the second it came out but it took a few watches before it clicked that so much of it mattered because Miles was like me. That big scene after Fox dies, with Baby running, was a cross I had resigned myself to knowing and never being able to explain. My one caveat, I think a large part of why Miles is so likely to replay other people's words and not speak up in public situations is that tinnitus has an insidious downside that doesn't come up often when discussing the condition. The ringing/birds/white noise is a known effect, the loss of midtones in public places is a less acknowledged but much bigger problem. Essentially, I need background noise to not go crazy in a quiet room but loud background noises in public spaces mean I miss 40% of of the actual noises coming out of other human being's mouths. It's an intensely uncomfortable live game of mad libs wherein you know you can only get away with so many in-game uses of "CAN YOU REPEAT THAT, PLEASE?" It makes the condition isolating in a way that's very difficult to articulate.
Conor Maury I feel you there, man. For what it's worth, learning to lip read helps a lot in public. It's awkward, sure, but less awkward than asking someone to repeat themselves a million times.
I can't believe you so accurately conveyed this 'public-spaces conversation-limitation' concept that is; the difficulty born from almost understanding half of what someone says, and then completely failing to hear the other half of their mouth-noise entirely. When you're constantly staring at the speakers mouth so as to attempt to read their lips in order to follow along. Perhaps, (with luck!) you can keep up well enough to maintain an interaction, perpetuating the illusion and hoping nobody notices that you can hardly even identify who is speaking half the time, let alone understand what they're saying or contribute anything meaningful conversationally. And don't get me started on those folks who sit down next to me at the bar and start talking to me from the side, where I have no hope of seeing their lips! I can hear someone talking, but it's lost in a sea of voices, bar background noises, slot machines, traffic from outside, and finally reality comes slightly into focus and I realize the bartender is trying her best to serve me a drink and call attention to her tits, fishing for a tip no doubt. (A mini whiteboard and a dry erase marker would get her a ten on top of my tab because I would be better able to communicate with her, amazed at the thoughtful accommodation.
Sylvan Tutor So long as the lighting is decent and the person I'm trying to talk to isn't incoherently drunk, I've not had that much trouble following along. But then again, I don't do groups often (read:ever).
2:32 So...as someone with a reasonable case of tinnitus myself...pause the video. Ringing does not stop. Several times thru your review I find that your use of that 'ring' during the intro is roughly the same pitch as the one I have heard myself for 20+ years. Someone else reading this, consider that 'noise' at 2:35 is what I hear, every second of every day. Thank you Mikey.
I've had tinnitus my whole life (and only been aware that's what it was for about 2 years), and I've never seen a movie that captures the experience as well as Baby Driver, or a video that shows it as well as this. Thank you for giving people like me a voice
LaZodiac it kind of worries me that people will think the film is “style over substance” at first. Firstly, even if it is “style over substance” WHOTHEFUCKCARES Secondly, as this video and so many other reviews have pointed out, there is so much to this film. It’s taken me at least 12 viewings and this was the first time I noticed things, like when he checks his pulse so he can keep in time with the music that was playing.
@@jowie3708 I love movies that do style over substance more than movies with substance at heart. Afterall a film is a piece of art, an escape from reality.
About 3 minutes in, I had to stop to comment on Twitter: I didn't even notice the background ringing in Baby Driver - I straight up did not realize it was an external sound rather than my own tinnitus. And because I've only the one functioning ear, when the music changes because one earbud gets dropped? I don't recall noticing that, either. And what an odd irony it is that I couldn't experience the disability depicted in the film because I already have them. Thanks for bringing all this to my attention, Mikey! I didn't even realize how much this movie is a movie for me. Or, more accurately, for people around me to help them understand. *Side note, another really good film that discusses what it's like to live with tinnitus and other disabilities is "The Music Within" (2007). Highly, highly recommended.
Check out “Its All Gone Pete Tong.” It’s a movie about the worlds most famous DJ going completely deaf and having to confront his life choices and drug abuse. And it’s amazing.
It's not clever, it's crass and just makes it so that me, someone with actual tinnitus can't actually listen to the video for more than 30 seconds at a time without getting a headache, and going deaf in my right ear for a few minutes. seriously who the hell thought this was a good idea?
@@TheyCallMeContra I hadn't considered that at all, but I can only imagine. If it helps, I made this comment about four seconds into the video and didn't expect it to continue throughout.
I just posted this as an individual comment, but I'll post it here too since it's relevant: as someone who occasionally deals with tinnitus, I genuinely couldn't make it more than two and a half minutes into this video. I don't know how or why, but every couple of days, I'll have some ringing in my ears at almost the exact same frequency as the one featured in the video (sometimes a bit lower in pitch), but for some reason I have the ability to sort of turn it off if I just plug my ears, and mentally decide to turn down the volume on it, but that usually takes a few minutes of focus and concentration in a quiet space with as little sound as possible. watching this video with a ringing that I couldn't just turn off is something I just can't manage. it boarders on being physically painful for me, because my mind is telling me that I should be able to turn the ringing off, but this time it's not actually in my head so the only way to make it go away is to just rage quit the video. I guess there's some good to come out of this in that I can understand the strain this problem causes for people who aren't fortunate to have an off-switch for it built into their brains, but I'm kind of sad about having to skip out on one of these videos because I love listening to Mikey's take on things, and there's always so much care and polish put into these that it sucks to miss out on one of them. :/
Your ability to make me love something I already love more than I do will never not be my absolute most favourite thing about this channel. Close second is your ability to make me love something I do not already love. You're very good at both, and it brightens literally entire weeks for me.
I really resonated with this movie as someone with cptsd and ocd which went undiagnosed throughout my childhood, Baby seems to have high functioning autism which is of course different but there's quite a few overlapping symptoms and baby driver is great because it's got themes that can be appreciated by anyone who has had to deal with ableism while not fully understanding their own issues and so also unable to advocate for yourself well, and so when people find out about your strange rituals or special interests, people simply have no frame of reference to understand it and like they do in the movie just simply don't believe his explanation about the tapes despite it being 100% true
Okay, this is really ominous. I JUST re-watched Lindsay Ellis' Phantom video essay as I was thirsty for some good movie analysis and then as soon as I finished, this popped up in my sub box and you both mention her and diegesis. Thank you for a great video, Mikey.
Oh, it clicked with me the very first time that I had ever saw it in the theater. So unforgettable, and like all of Edgar Wright’s other films gets better and better with every watching. Awesome video Mikey.
This video has gone above and beyond what you have before. Both in editing and subject matter. Amazing. Congratulations on always improving and reaching for greater heights! And thank you for your hard work as always!
I have tinnitus and my sister has MS. I really appreciate this video, I've not seen the film - I can't wait to now! Your channel always brings me joy in new and unexpected ways 🖤
I really hope Edgar Wright continues to be this creative power house, He reminds me a lot like how Tim Burton used to be. Just always trying to think of something interesting and different.I really like Edgar's work and I think he is just getting better and better
I am a former touring professional drummer, and gun enthusiast, and due to being irresponsible with hearing protection in my younger days, now suffer with tinnitus. I, too, keep music playing in my ear buds when I'm working as much as possible, and usually have music or some other active sound (TV, fan, etc) going, partially because I love music, but also to keep the tinnitus at bay. As a result, this movie really spoke to me...apart from just being a great film in general. Thanks, Mikey, for another nail hit right on the head. Keep up the good work, man, I'm a fan!
Unfortunately, Jim Cummings was recently alleged to be an asshole in a different way, so it’s even more oof now. Which is a shame- him and [the actor referred to as Darkwing Duck in this video] are great actors, just terrible people. And I respect those who avoid their work for that reason.
Of all the things... I started watching an enormous amount of TH-cam content as my tinnitus became progressively worse. Music is definitely the default playing in my headphones but I spread to watching longer form TH-cam videos for variety. Eventually I found your channel through recommendations, all from the beginning of looking for different and new sounds to assuage my tinnitus. The sound design of this film gave my wife an epiphany of what it's like, much as your perspective changed when watching with your friend. This movie and it's coordination to it's music was a truly transcendental experience for someone with tinnitus, and I absolutely love your analysis.
I've lived with tinnitus for over half my life now and i LOVE baby driver for this very reason- yet this is the first time ive heard a film analysis that even /mentions/ this theme in the film. Super important to the overall tone of the film, thanks for bringing it up not many do
Great video!!! I suffer from tinnitus. War tends to do that. Especially since I was infantry. This movie really spoke to me, but subconsciously. I just really liked the music. But when the ringing picked up, all I could think was...."Dude. I feel you're pain." I listen to music all the time as a result of disability. Driving, riding my motorcycle, background noise when working on a project, and when sleeping. Definitely when sleeping. If I don't have something going on when in bed, my tinnitus will keep me up. But it's also because of not liking quiet places. It's hard to explain, as it revolves around war. But I will give it a try. When it's quiet and you're in a combat zone, you don't know where anyone is. Including the enemy. It's even worse when in nature, like a forest or jungle. The bugs are disturbed, so you know some shenanigans are about go down. But when you hear the bugs doing their thing, it's sort of a sign that "everything is OK". When it's noisy, such as during a firefight, you know what's going on and where everyone is at. Usually. There's no sneaking about. Anyways. Thanks for the video!!! Keep up the good work!!!
I loved this movie for many of the reasons you brought up, but as a huge car guy who also really likes the music this move was set to (especially hocus pocus by focus, I've got a personal connection to that song and nearly jumped out of my seat when it came on) this movie was my perfect storm of interesting visuals, fun music, and great driving and stunts. Your analysis of how important his disability is to the impact of this film only further cements this movie as one of my all time favorites.
I have a vey low level tinnitus. I don't need to drown the world out with music but silence is absolutely deafening so I do always have a pair of headphones with me. This movie did make me feel like a superhero so there's that haha!
Dude, you get it. This is the Philosopher's Stone, the turning of lead into gold. It's the exact same thing as what therapists call "recontextualization." Well done.
This movie has been my favorite since it came out, I’ve seen it so many times, and never once did I think to watch it with headphones on. That ringing detail blew my mind. This is why I watch you Mikey. Always pointing out something to make me love the things I love even more.
Today has been a great day, Borderlands 3 trailer this morning and then this in the evening. Turns out I've been enjoying stuff made by this man far longer than I've been watching this channel (Borderlands 2 is my favourite game). Thanks for all the joy Mikey.
Absolutely brilliant video. And yeah, as someone with mild tinnitus, its portrayal in this film really spoke to me. I don't think I can count just how often I've either listened to music or watched videos in order to drown it out. So to see that on screen, and used in such a brilliant and unique way was an absolute joy to watch. Wright is honestly a genius in my opinion, and this film continues to prove that.
I was sooooo hoping you would do a video about this movie! And then I was a little disappointed that you weren't going to talk more about the technical aspects, but then I was so happy you gave me a whole new level of appreciation for it. :) Thanks, Mikey
I see a "Movies with Mikey" pop up in my subscriptions and I drop everything, ESPECIALLY since I first saw this movie in the past week and was blown away by it.
Don't ever change that introduction / music, it is like coming back to your favorite place in the world, or out of it. Welcome home it says to me :). I love the production value of your videos, and your insights, you expand my world and knowledge with your work and passion.
I thought you had already done one on baby driver because how could you not? I'm very glad you did. When I first watched this film, I had no idea that I had a mental disability (autism) or how it actually affected me (because how would I know that my experiences were not normal?). Thank you for helping me realize that the movie is about the life of someone living and almost dying with a disability, an invisible one at that, not just a dude doing cool car tricks to sick music.
So that’s what it’s about. I remember watching in theatres after months of anticipation and not really getting it. The ending was bombastic. But then you point out the disability and I got retroactively gut punched by previous viewings... wow.
Mikey, I joyfully discovered your channel thanks to your in defense of the last Jedi video. I’m someone who loves it (and Force Awakens) and loved your take on them. But I love Baby Driver immensely more and always hoped you’d make a MWM for it. I’m grateful the stars aligned and you had the experience that caused you to make it and will next watch it with a different set of eyes. I also love your handling of Darkwing Duck. Very well done. Cheers.
I’m sure you hear it a lot, but holy shit, dude. Your title sequences are incredible. (I mean, I love the series in general, but your editing is on another level.) I have Baby Driver on my PVR. After watching the first few minutes, I’m sticking a pin in this and I’ll come back
“My super power is hubris.” I wish more people experienced this feeling, the world would be a better place. Thank you, Mikey. I will always follow you.
wow, thank you for highlighting the ring of tinnitus that runs throughout the movie. i did not notice it, maybe because of my own ear whistling. thank you also for the Duck replacement, his casting is the one drawback of this excellent movie.
I just watched this film for the first time recently and it was incredible. As usual, you helped make it even more incredible, because of your deep way of looking at films.
Wow, when I first saw this movie, I saw it as a film with incredible amounts of style with substance and well-handled narrative. Now I realize that there's far more to it than just that - and this film is a favorite of mine, too. You've heightened my appreciation for this film; kudos.
That ringing in your intro gave me a headache. After it was done, I couldn’t stop my ears / mind from scoping on that frequency to be sure if it was gone. It stayed with me, in my imagination, also giving me a headache. It certainly worked. I can only imagine how hellish such a condition must be? Like toothache, robbing you of joy in every moment in a soul destroying, gnawing at your sanity, type way. Thanks for tuning my empathy scanners for me. Great video. ✌️👍 Edit: What? Again? Stop! I get it!
This movie touched my life. I've seen it again and again and it never fails to deliver every time. I can't tell you how excited I was to see this in my notifications. And as someone with tinnitus, I appreciate your take
Ringing stopped when I clicked off the video. The film does a good job weaving it into the story and allowing you to notice without it being too obtrusive. This is hamfisted. Looking forward to the next video.
It’s surreal to see this upload from you because for some reason I assumed you had covered it already? Lol In any event thank you for reminding me how much I love this film and now I have an even deeper appreciation of it! Thanks again for all your work!
Awesome video, Mikey!! One little weird thing I love about Baby Driver - it was filmed in and around Atlanta, and was expressly set there! The gang talks about knocking over a bank in Dunwoody. Living in the metro-Atlanta area, I can't tell you how refreshing it is to have the city name-dropped in that way, after seeing it masquerade as New York, LA, London, and so many other places over the years.
I don't have tinnitus but sometimes my right/left ear will ringing from 2 weeks to a month and then dissapeared. Listening to the music really help to tone down the ringing so I realized that points from. Baby Driver. I love Wright and I loveeeeeee this film so much! Thank you for the video!
I know that are still thousands of details in this film that I haven't yet caught but one that this video pointed out was Baby reading his pulse to keep the beat. Love the video Mikey, keep up the good work.
I almost screamed when I saw a MWM video about Baby Driver... Went to see the movie without an idea about it and boy, did I leave the theatre pumped up and accelereted. Awesome movie as very few are. Thank you
I knew the voters would give it to Godzilla...they never take any risks. In other news: this was the best video I've ever seen on your channel. (Edit: next Deep Dive, could you secretly go with whatever film gets the 3rd most votes? I think letting money contributors do the voting is robbing you of the chance to truly challenge yourselves)
I really love this movie and appreciate this review as someone with crippling tinnitus and who just had to get hearing aids for how bad it is. Love you, Mikey! Never quit being amazing!
This movie came out around the time I was really starting to pay attention to how people made movies and film techniques. I have been wanting another GOOD car movie that was a part of a long going saga or sloppily done to add in filler time. The car stunts in this movie are MAGICAL! And also, growing up in school I ALWAYS had earbuds in. On the bus, in the halls, in the cafeteria, to go to sleep, I listened to music constantly. Now, I don't have tennitus, I think my compulsion to do that was just because I was/am an introverted wallflower and I would rather listen to Rush than talk to people about nothing. But seeing a character on screen who not only listens to music constantly like I did but uses that beat to do amazing driving stunts just blew me away imediately. Edgar's crazy attention to detail is something I've obsessed over since I saw Scott Pilgrim and continue to watch because each and every time I pick up a new detail or uncover a layer of what the story was telling. Edgar Wright will no doubt go down as one of the top people who influenced me the most, along with Neil Peart, Steven Jobs, and I haven't made this list concrete but there are other's definitely.
Hoo boy that little ring you put in the background really draws home how tough tenitis could be to deal with. Found myself constantly rewinding cus it distracted me no matter what I did and couldn't get it out of my head and had to take breaks. I applaud the use of it though
Edgar wright is by far the most underrated director i know of. All of his movies are masterclasses of true creativity and examples of how far you can push the medium of film.
Hey Mikey. I know this is an old video, but I still watch them because your emotions seem honest when you do these videos, and I need that. You seem to be a good person, and I have to believe those exist at this point. Hope you're doing well.
You’ve changed my view on this movie from an 8 to 9.5. Thanks for the new perspective and nuance on what I mistook as a simple story with insane artistry that was actually a powerful metaphor for a state of living with insane artistry
like most edgar wright movies, Baby Driver is one of those movies you can nitpick to death and talk about for hours. its definitely one of my favourite movies, ever
I don't have tinnitus but when I drive i'm usually listening to music and my driving becomes rhythmic and in sync with the music I'm listening to. That's why I love this movie. Pretty much anything I'm doing while listening to music is done rhythmically. You see it all the time. You don't see people walking past graffiti on beat but you see them walking to the beat of the music
As always fantastic stuff here Mikey! Baby Driver and Into the Spiderverse have been far and away two of my favorite movies of the past few years! I also really thought how you handled the dark wing duck situation was very classy!
Baby Driver was robbed of its rightful Sound Editing/Mixing Oscars...
DUNKRIK won that??! Fuck off. That sucks! I mean, sure, it's fine enough sound editing, but BABY DRIVER was a masterwork,
The more i see awards ceremonies like The Oscars or The Grammys the more i realize they're pointless. Didn't most of the judges literally not watch all of the nominees for animated picture this year or something?
the editing in Baby Driver stood out and was at times seemed like it was trying too hard to show off
@@andrewa8161 What's wrong with showing off the amazing talent and ability that went into Baby driver? I see nothing wrong with that.
The Oscars was robbed of its credibility by itself due to not giving baby driver the sound editing/mixing Oscars...
Edgar Wright is operating on a level above 99% of directors. The love and attention to detail he puts into every aspect of his craft is phenomenally inspiring.
I have a very mild tinnitus and the beginning made me very paranoid lol. The feeling of not being able to distinguish whether the sound came from myself is unsettling.
Yeah, I had to hit pause a couple of times, but it amped mine up a bit too much...
Same here.
When I first started getting tinnitus, I always asked for someone to shut off that damned noise. Then I found out what was going on.
War isn't exactly quite and being 3 feet from machine guns being fired doesn't help either.
I get you.
I have a disorder called Postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome. Along with my nervous system not working right, my blood vessels don’t adjust when I move so, my blood pressure bottoms out and all the blood pools in my extremities, so all the organs in my head don’t get enough blood. I get tinnitus, lose vision and balance whenever I go from sitting to standing. Now it’s starting to happened randomly and more frequently and I don’t know what causes it anymore. It’s starting to drive me crazy. I can’t imagine living with it 24/7
I didn't even know there was ringing in the background because I thought it was mine because it drowned mine out
The problem with this video is I thought my tinnitus was suddenly much worse and it gave me a miniature crisis
Right? Like, I get that it's there to try and show people without it what it's like but yeesh it actually started to give me a headache because it was that much worse than what my tinnitus usually is.
Yeah, it really needs a disclaimer or some alternative version.
Agreed. cool idea on paper because it gives people without the problem a way to better understand it, bad idea in practice because for people who have to deal with the problem it just agitates it further.
This, very much this.
I thought my tinnitus was acting up as well, even with the fans I have running in my room to drown it out- even though my tinnitus is usually a slightly lower pitch o.o
Speaks to the talents of LITERALLY everyone else involved that I had forgotten Darkwing Duck was in this.
To be fair, Darkwing Duck also did great in this film. No idea what he did though. Don't really need to find out either.
"I'm going to have to take away something that you love" and then he renders Baby incapable of hearing music ever again.
What an absolutely devastating way to make good on your threat.
Just wanna drop in here a year later and mention handgun calibers shot next to your head aren't going to permanently render you deaf. It's quite painful, and definitely causes permanent damage, but you *can* recover.
@@keeganwebber But if you already have tinnitus, will the damage be worse?
"We're all stupid, kinda".
I find that sentence strangely reassuring. It should be turned into a motivational poster.
So, as a future Audiologist I love this movie even more now. Originally I just loved how integrated the music was and how active it was rather than being this passive element. It wasn't an afterthought - the movie was SHAPED by the music selected.
As for tinnitus, your definition works in the case of hearing loss. When you have damage to the cochlea, we often find the brain responding to the lack of stimuli by creating this noise. And since we don't regenerate the cells that detect pitch, that natural hearing ability is gone forever, and so we often live with tinnitus from that point on. The worse our hearing gets, the worse the tinnitus can become.
However, there are people especially sensitive to sounds, perhaps fearing loud or stressful noises, who technically don't have traditional hearing loss. Sometimes they've experienced a loud, traumatic instance (like a car accident) and they notice tinnitus after. And since it's related to a loud, scary incident, the tinnitus creates an emotional response - may that be something like fear or stress - and only reminds them of that trauma. Our limbic system (responsible for pain and fear) has now associated the tinnitus to emotion. So, in some cases tinnitus is even more than a response of losing our natural hearing. It's a remnant of trauma that is constantly there in our own heads, either reminding us of what happened, or simply stressing you out because it won't go away.
So my understanding of Baby is even greater now. Not only is he just bothered by the ringing and chooses to listen to music as a way to overcome it...the ringing is a constant reminder of the trauma he experienced that also took his mother, the one that imbued him with a love of music, from him. To hear the ringing is to remember that moment and lose her again. To listen to music pushes that away and brings her back to him again. Beautiful.
As a tinnitus sufferer, I honestly had NO idea that there was ringing throughout the entire movie, until I watched this. After I saw this piece for the first time, I mentioned it to my partner, who was stunned that I didn't know about it. "How could you not hear it?!? It drives me crazy!" Well... you can't hear whistling that matches the whistling you hear 24/7/365. Fun stuff.
Thank you, man. I sharply identified with this movie the second it came out but it took a few watches before it clicked that so much of it mattered because Miles was like me. That big scene after Fox dies, with Baby running, was a cross I had resigned myself to knowing and never being able to explain.
My one caveat, I think a large part of why Miles is so likely to replay other people's words and not speak up in public situations is that tinnitus has an insidious downside that doesn't come up often when discussing the condition. The ringing/birds/white noise is a known effect, the loss of midtones in public places is a less acknowledged but much bigger problem. Essentially, I need background noise to not go crazy in a quiet room but loud background noises in public spaces mean I miss 40% of of the actual noises coming out of other human being's mouths. It's an intensely uncomfortable live game of mad libs wherein you know you can only get away with so many in-game uses of "CAN YOU REPEAT THAT, PLEASE?"
It makes the condition isolating in a way that's very difficult to articulate.
Conor Maury I feel you there, man. For what it's worth, learning to lip read helps a lot in public. It's awkward, sure, but less awkward than asking someone to repeat themselves a million times.
I can't believe you so accurately conveyed this 'public-spaces conversation-limitation' concept that is; the difficulty born from almost understanding half of what someone says, and then completely failing to hear the other half of their mouth-noise entirely. When you're constantly staring at the speakers mouth so as to attempt to read their lips in order to follow along. Perhaps, (with luck!) you can keep up well enough to maintain an interaction, perpetuating the illusion and hoping nobody notices that you can hardly even identify who is speaking half the time, let alone understand what they're saying or contribute anything meaningful conversationally. And don't get me started on those folks who sit down next to me at the bar and start talking to me from the side, where I have no hope of seeing their lips!
I can hear someone talking, but it's lost in a sea of voices, bar background noises, slot machines, traffic from outside, and finally reality comes slightly into focus and I realize the bartender is trying her best to serve me a drink and call attention to her tits, fishing for a tip no doubt. (A mini whiteboard and a dry erase marker would get her a ten on top of my tab because I would be better able to communicate with her, amazed at the thoughtful accommodation.
Damn is that one of the side-effects? I thought I had audio processing disorder, thanks I'll do more investigating.
Sylvan Tutor So long as the lighting is decent and the person I'm trying to talk to isn't incoherently drunk, I've not had that much trouble following along. But then again, I don't do groups often (read:ever).
Or....he's just an introvert type person.
Dammit, Mikey, I was just about to be productive. Oh, well. This is far more pressing. _Hit it._
Been missing you mickey
You are being productive watching this
Kevin Spacey saying "I was just blinded by the balls on that kid" has not aged very well.
gotta love how all the news stories say "accuser" instead of "victim"
Come on, mike went a length to avoid naming him for a reason. Be cool.
I think you mean *darkwing duck*
Savage!!
@@popskism If I say Kevin Spacey's name three times will he show up in my house? Doubt it.
Baby Driver is honestly like a 2 hour long music video which honestly is kinda what makes it so unique and amazing
2:32 So...as someone with a reasonable case of tinnitus myself...pause the video. Ringing does not stop.
Several times thru your review I find that your use of that 'ring' during the intro is roughly the same pitch as the one I have heard myself for 20+ years. Someone else reading this, consider that 'noise' at 2:35 is what I hear, every second of every day.
Thank you Mikey.
I've had tinnitus my whole life (and only been aware that's what it was for about 2 years), and I've never seen a movie that captures the experience as well as Baby Driver, or a video that shows it as well as this. Thank you for giving people like me a voice
I never noticed the heart at the coffee shop... I swear I’ve seen this movie a million times and still keeping finding new things
That's Wright for you.
I love this film with such a passion. It...really is almost perfect, I think.
LaZodiac it kind of worries me that people will think the film is “style over substance” at first.
Firstly, even if it is “style over substance” WHOTHEFUCKCARES
Secondly, as this video and so many other reviews have pointed out, there is so much to this film. It’s taken me at least 12 viewings and this was the first time I noticed things, like when he checks his pulse so he can keep in time with the music that was playing.
@@jowie3708 I love movies that do style over substance more than movies with substance at heart.
Afterall a film is a piece of art, an escape from reality.
It's *solidly* taken a spot in my top 5. It is a hair's breadth from being perfect.
@@bavarianbanshee Yeah, I'd actually say it's in my top 5 favourite films of all time - I've seen it about 100 times.
Almost?
(It is perfect)
About 3 minutes in, I had to stop to comment on Twitter: I didn't even notice the background ringing in Baby Driver - I straight up did not realize it was an external sound rather than my own tinnitus. And because I've only the one functioning ear, when the music changes because one earbud gets dropped? I don't recall noticing that, either. And what an odd irony it is that I couldn't experience the disability depicted in the film because I already have them.
Thanks for bringing all this to my attention, Mikey! I didn't even realize how much this movie is a movie for me. Or, more accurately, for people around me to help them understand.
*Side note, another really good film that discusses what it's like to live with tinnitus and other disabilities is "The Music Within" (2007). Highly, highly recommended.
Same with me, not noticing the tinnitus in the movie because of my own hearing. I wonder how I could pick that up.
Check out “Its All Gone Pete Tong.” It’s a movie about the worlds most famous DJ going completely deaf and having to confront his life choices and drug abuse. And it’s amazing.
Heh. Video started and I winced. "Jeez, Mikey, you trying to give me tinit-ooooooooooh, clever."
It's not clever, it's crass and just makes it so that me, someone with actual tinnitus can't actually listen to the video for more than 30 seconds at a time without getting a headache, and going deaf in my right ear for a few minutes. seriously who the hell thought this was a good idea?
Yeah it was a really obnoxious decision. Practically made it unwatchable which is a shame cause his videos are almost always great.
@@TheyCallMeContra I hadn't considered that at all, but I can only imagine. If it helps, I made this comment about four seconds into the video and didn't expect it to continue throughout.
Uberphish Studios petition for a (clean) version
I just posted this as an individual comment, but I'll post it here too since it's relevant:
as someone who occasionally deals with tinnitus, I genuinely couldn't make it more than two and a half minutes into this video. I don't know how or why, but every couple of days, I'll have some ringing in my ears at almost the exact same frequency as the one featured in the video (sometimes a bit lower in pitch), but for some reason I have the ability to sort of turn it off if I just plug my ears, and mentally decide to turn down the volume on it, but that usually takes a few minutes of focus and concentration in a quiet space with as little sound as possible.
watching this video with a ringing that I couldn't just turn off is something I just can't manage. it boarders on being physically painful for me, because my mind is telling me that I should be able to turn the ringing off, but this time it's not actually in my head so the only way to make it go away is to just rage quit the video. I guess there's some good to come out of this in that I can understand the strain this problem causes for people who aren't fortunate to have an off-switch for it built into their brains, but I'm kind of sad about having to skip out on one of these videos because I love listening to Mikey's take on things, and there's always so much care and polish put into these that it sucks to miss out on one of them. :/
Your ability to make me love something I already love more than I do will never not be my absolute most favourite thing about this channel. Close second is your ability to make me love something I do not already love. You're very good at both, and it brightens literally entire weeks for me.
Me too!
I really resonated with this movie as someone with cptsd and ocd which went undiagnosed throughout my childhood, Baby seems to have high functioning autism which is of course different but there's quite a few overlapping symptoms and baby driver is great because it's got themes that can be appreciated by anyone who has had to deal with ableism while not fully understanding their own issues and so also unable to advocate for yourself well, and so when people find out about your strange rituals or special interests, people simply have no frame of reference to understand it and like they do in the movie just simply don't believe his explanation about the tapes despite it being 100% true
Okay, this is really ominous. I JUST re-watched Lindsay Ellis' Phantom video essay as I was thirsty for some good movie analysis and then as soon as I finished, this popped up in my sub box and you both mention her and diegesis. Thank you for a great video, Mikey.
Oh, it clicked with me the very first time that I had ever saw it in the theater. So unforgettable, and like all of Edgar Wright’s other films gets better and better with every watching.
Awesome video Mikey.
This video has gone above and beyond what you have before. Both in editing and subject matter. Amazing. Congratulations on always improving and reaching for greater heights! And thank you for your hard work as always!
I have tinnitus and my sister has MS. I really appreciate this video, I've not seen the film - I can't wait to now! Your channel always brings me joy in new and unexpected ways 🖤
I've just now realised that my favourite movies of both 2017 and 2018 have main characters named "Miles"
What was the film for 2018 then?
@@scottroberts6456 Spiderman, probably.
@@dudemcfurgusson7179 oh yeah I forgot that existed
@@scottroberts6456 spiderman into the spider-verse
I really hope Edgar Wright continues to be this creative power house, He reminds me a lot like how Tim Burton used to be. Just always trying to think of something interesting and different.I really like Edgar's work and I think he is just getting better and better
I am a former touring professional drummer, and gun enthusiast, and due to being irresponsible with hearing protection in my younger days, now suffer with tinnitus. I, too, keep music playing in my ear buds when I'm working as much as possible, and usually have music or some other active sound (TV, fan, etc) going, partially because I love music, but also to keep the tinnitus at bay.
As a result, this movie really spoke to me...apart from just being a great film in general.
Thanks, Mikey, for another nail hit right on the head. Keep up the good work, man, I'm a fan!
I adore this movie, and I love this video. Thank you Mikey, sorry it got leaked tho.
Can you do a Darkwing Duck video now? I'm actually serious about that.
Especially after soiling his reputation, I agree!
Let's get dangerous.
Unfortunately, Jim Cummings was recently alleged to be an asshole in a different way, so it’s even more oof now. Which is a shame- him and [the actor referred to as Darkwing Duck in this video] are great actors, just terrible people. And I respect those who avoid their work for that reason.
*sigh* Oh well, no more nice things I guess.
My god I have tinnitus so I never noticed the ringing in the actual movie! I love Baby Driver even more now.
Of all the things... I started watching an enormous amount of TH-cam content as my tinnitus became progressively worse. Music is definitely the default playing in my headphones but I spread to watching longer form TH-cam videos for variety. Eventually I found your channel through recommendations, all from the beginning of looking for different and new sounds to assuage my tinnitus. The sound design of this film gave my wife an epiphany of what it's like, much as your perspective changed when watching with your friend. This movie and it's coordination to it's music was a truly transcendental experience for someone with tinnitus, and I absolutely love your analysis.
I've lived with tinnitus for over half my life now and i LOVE baby driver for this very reason- yet this is the first time ive heard a film analysis that even /mentions/ this theme in the film. Super important to the overall tone of the film, thanks for bringing it up not many do
Great video!!!
I suffer from tinnitus. War tends to do that. Especially since I was infantry.
This movie really spoke to me, but subconsciously. I just really liked the music. But when the ringing picked up, all I could think was...."Dude. I feel you're pain."
I listen to music all the time as a result of disability. Driving, riding my motorcycle, background noise when working on a project, and when sleeping. Definitely when sleeping. If I don't have something going on when in bed, my tinnitus will keep me up. But it's also because of not liking quiet places. It's hard to explain, as it revolves around war. But I will give it a try.
When it's quiet and you're in a combat zone, you don't know where anyone is. Including the enemy. It's even worse when in nature, like a forest or jungle. The bugs are disturbed, so you know some shenanigans are about go down. But when you hear the bugs doing their thing, it's sort of a sign that "everything is OK".
When it's noisy, such as during a firefight, you know what's going on and where everyone is at. Usually. There's no sneaking about.
Anyways. Thanks for the video!!! Keep up the good work!!!
Mikey, once again you've taken a movie that I like and helped me see it in a new and elevated light. Thanks!
I loved this movie for many of the reasons you brought up, but as a huge car guy who also really likes the music this move was set to (especially hocus pocus by focus, I've got a personal connection to that song and nearly jumped out of my seat when it came on) this movie was my perfect storm of interesting visuals, fun music, and great driving and stunts. Your analysis of how important his disability is to the impact of this film only further cements this movie as one of my all time favorites.
I didn't notice the hum or the heart changing colours. Gotta watch the movie again. A movie that keeps giving
Not one but two astonishing Mickey videos in a week. We'll get spoiled. Congratulations, and thank you!
I have a vey low level tinnitus. I don't need to drown the world out with music but silence is absolutely deafening so I do always have a pair of headphones with me. This movie did make me feel like a superhero so there's that haha!
Dude, you get it. This is the Philosopher's Stone, the turning of lead into gold. It's the exact same thing as what therapists call "recontextualization." Well done.
This movie has been my favorite since it came out, I’ve seen it so many times, and never once did I think to watch it with headphones on. That ringing detail blew my mind. This is why I watch you Mikey. Always pointing out something to make me love the things I love even more.
FlimJoy has one of the best ever edited intros istg wow
jayesh kodnani Totally agree! I’m probably a little late to the party, but does anyone know the name of the song?
Today has been a great day, Borderlands 3 trailer this morning and then this in the evening. Turns out I've been enjoying stuff made by this man far longer than I've been watching this channel (Borderlands 2 is my favourite game). Thanks for all the joy Mikey.
Absolutely brilliant video. And yeah, as someone with mild tinnitus, its portrayal in this film really spoke to me. I don't think I can count just how often I've either listened to music or watched videos in order to drown it out. So to see that on screen, and used in such a brilliant and unique way was an absolute joy to watch. Wright is honestly a genius in my opinion, and this film continues to prove that.
I was sooooo hoping you would do a video about this movie! And then I was a little disappointed that you weren't going to talk more about the technical aspects, but then I was so happy you gave me a whole new level of appreciation for it. :) Thanks, Mikey
I see a "Movies with Mikey" pop up in my subscriptions and I drop everything, ESPECIALLY since I first saw this movie in the past week and was blown away by it.
Don't ever change that introduction / music, it is like coming back to your favorite place in the world, or out of it. Welcome home it says to me :). I love the production value of your videos, and your insights, you expand my world and knowledge with your work and passion.
I agree.
I have been so looking forward to this! I always trust Mikey to show me something I didn't see in a movie I've seen 9 times.
6:58 "creating damaging co-dependencies" XD, I am slain!
I thought you had already done one on baby driver because how could you not? I'm very glad you did. When I first watched this film, I had no idea that I had a mental disability (autism) or how it actually affected me (because how would I know that my experiences were not normal?). Thank you for helping me realize that the movie is about the life of someone living and almost dying with a disability, an invisible one at that, not just a dude doing cool car tricks to sick music.
So that’s what it’s about. I remember watching in theatres after months of anticipation and not really getting it. The ending was bombastic. But then you point out the disability and I got retroactively gut punched by previous viewings... wow.
And now my tinnitus has flared, so no more binging the videos of the awesome channel I found.....great. Thanks.
Mikey,
I joyfully discovered your channel thanks to your in defense of the last Jedi video. I’m someone who loves it (and Force Awakens) and loved your take on them.
But I love Baby Driver immensely more and always hoped you’d make a MWM for it. I’m grateful the stars aligned and you had the experience that caused you to make it and will next watch it with a different set of eyes.
I also love your handling of Darkwing Duck. Very well done.
Cheers.
I think I discovered him through Hot Fuzz.
i LOVE how many creators give props to the amazing LINDSAY ELLIS,
LFTS gave her a 'whats up" on his "ADAPTATION" video
I’m sure you hear it a lot, but holy shit, dude. Your title sequences are incredible. (I mean, I love the series in general, but your editing is on another level.) I have Baby Driver on my PVR. After watching the first few minutes, I’m sticking a pin in this and I’ll come back
“My super power is hubris.” I wish more people experienced this feeling, the world would be a better place. Thank you, Mikey. I will always follow you.
wow, thank you for highlighting the ring of tinnitus that runs throughout the movie. i did not notice it, maybe because of my own ear whistling.
thank you also for the Duck replacement, his casting is the one drawback of this excellent movie.
Darkwing masking is brilliant. This episode is stellar. Borderlands 3 trailer is bananas. Congratulations on a beautiful week.
I just watched this film for the first time recently and it was incredible. As usual, you helped make it even more incredible, because of your deep way of looking at films.
Wow, when I first saw this movie, I saw it as a film with incredible amounts of style with substance and well-handled narrative. Now I realize that there's far more to it than just that - and this film is a favorite of mine, too. You've heightened my appreciation for this film; kudos.
That ringing in your intro gave me a headache. After it was done, I couldn’t stop my ears / mind from scoping on that frequency to be sure if it was gone. It stayed with me, in my imagination, also giving me a headache. It certainly worked. I can only imagine how hellish such a condition must be? Like toothache, robbing you of joy in every moment in a soul destroying, gnawing at your sanity, type way. Thanks for tuning my empathy scanners for me. Great video. ✌️👍
Edit: What? Again? Stop! I get it!
I love the consistent humming in the BG. Nice touch.
This movie touched my life. I've seen it again and again and it never fails to deliver every time.
I can't tell you how excited I was to see this in my notifications. And as someone with tinnitus, I appreciate your take
I love Movies with Mikey, you always have something personal to say about movies and that makes the movies even better for me when rewatching them
Ringing stopped when I clicked off the video.
The film does a good job weaving it into the story and allowing you to notice without it being too obtrusive.
This is hamfisted. Looking forward to the next video.
Thanks for this video for teaching me about Tinnitus. I thought everyone dealt with it
It’s surreal to see this upload from you because for some reason I assumed you had covered it already? Lol In any event thank you for reminding me how much I love this film and now I have an even deeper appreciation of it! Thanks again for all your work!
Awesome video, Mikey!! One little weird thing I love about Baby Driver - it was filmed in and around Atlanta, and was expressly set there! The gang talks about knocking over a bank in Dunwoody. Living in the metro-Atlanta area, I can't tell you how refreshing it is to have the city name-dropped in that way, after seeing it masquerade as New York, LA, London, and so many other places over the years.
Thank you for talking so earnestly about Baby Driver (and movies) and disability. I love this video.
I don't have tinnitus but sometimes my right/left ear will ringing from 2 weeks to a month and then dissapeared.
Listening to the music really help to tone down the ringing so I realized that points from. Baby Driver. I love Wright and I loveeeeeee this film so much!
Thank you for the video!
I know that are still thousands of details in this film that I haven't yet caught but one that this video pointed out was Baby reading his pulse to keep the beat. Love the video Mikey, keep up the good work.
You make me want to watch which ever movie your video is about, regardless of how many times ive seen it. Thankyou.
I almost screamed when I saw a MWM video about Baby Driver... Went to see the movie without an idea about it and boy, did I leave the theatre pumped up and accelereted. Awesome movie as very few are. Thank you
I shared this on my Facebook page because it’s honestly one of my favorite videos of yours! Love the channel!
Why would you do my childhood hero Darkwing Duck like this?
(very good episode)
I knew the voters would give it to Godzilla...they never take any risks. In other news: this was the best video I've ever seen on your channel. (Edit: next Deep Dive, could you secretly go with whatever film gets the 3rd most votes? I think letting money contributors do the voting is robbing you of the chance to truly challenge yourselves)
Now you're doing my favorite movie?!? I knew that sub this morning was worth it!
I was just thinking that I needed a new MWM to help with this day. Thanks for this, Mikey.
That video was a very pleasenz surprise that I needed this morning. Thank you, Mikey.
I really love this movie and appreciate this review as someone with crippling tinnitus and who just had to get hearing aids for how bad it is. Love you, Mikey! Never quit being amazing!
This movie came out around the time I was really starting to pay attention to how people made movies and film techniques. I have been wanting another GOOD car movie that was a part of a long going saga or sloppily done to add in filler time. The car stunts in this movie are MAGICAL! And also, growing up in school I ALWAYS had earbuds in. On the bus, in the halls, in the cafeteria, to go to sleep, I listened to music constantly. Now, I don't have tennitus, I think my compulsion to do that was just because I was/am an introverted wallflower and I would rather listen to Rush than talk to people about nothing. But seeing a character on screen who not only listens to music constantly like I did but uses that beat to do amazing driving stunts just blew me away imediately. Edgar's crazy attention to detail is something I've obsessed over since I saw Scott Pilgrim and continue to watch because each and every time I pick up a new detail or uncover a layer of what the story was telling.
Edgar Wright will no doubt go down as one of the top people who influenced me the most, along with Neil Peart, Steven Jobs, and I haven't made this list concrete but there are other's definitely.
So many details keep on popping out with every vision. Wright is a genius and a cool guy.
Hoo boy that little ring you put in the background really draws home how tough tenitis could be to deal with. Found myself constantly rewinding cus it distracted me no matter what I did and couldn't get it out of my head and had to take breaks. I applaud the use of it though
I fell in love with this movie the first time I saw it.
Edgar wright is by far the most underrated director i know of. All of his movies are masterclasses of true creativity and examples of how far you can push the medium of film.
Finally ! another movies with mikey !!! love your stuff, man.
Is anyone else hyped for the Simon And Garfunkel Cinematic universe?
I personally cannot wait for "I Am A Rock" starring Dwayne Johnson
Hey Mikey. I know this is an old video, but I still watch them because your emotions seem honest when you do these videos, and I need that. You seem to be a good person, and I have to believe those exist at this point. Hope you're doing well.
I've gotta admit, about 15% of my joy from this movie was "I'm already happy for Mikey, because I know he's gonna love this!"
What a good way to wake up, just go on TH-cam and bang there’s a movies with mikey on one of my favourite films
I saw this movie four times the summer it came out and I’m gonna watch it again. This video was awesome, as always
I'M SO GLAD YOU DID THIS thank you so much
You’ve changed my view on this movie from an 8 to 9.5. Thanks for the new perspective and nuance on what I mistook as a simple story with insane artistry that was actually a powerful metaphor for a state of living with insane artistry
THE ONE WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR!!!!! Thank you Mikey!!!
Oh my god you did it. You beautiful man. I can't believe it. I can't wait to breathe
Man, these videos could be like an hour and a half long and it'd still feel like it went by fast as hell. Love it. :)
This is your best one yet!!!
like most edgar wright movies, Baby Driver is one of those movies you can nitpick to death and talk about for hours. its definitely one of my favourite movies, ever
I don't have tinnitus but when I drive i'm usually listening to music and my driving becomes rhythmic and in sync with the music I'm listening to. That's why I love this movie. Pretty much anything I'm doing while listening to music is done rhythmically. You see it all the time. You don't see people walking past graffiti on beat but you see them walking to the beat of the music
As always fantastic stuff here Mikey! Baby Driver and Into the Spiderverse have been far and away two of my favorite movies of the past few years! I also really thought how you handled the dark wing duck situation was very classy!