This video clearly shows that lack of understanding basics of Islam and hadith sciences just makes these apologists look like donkey carrying tones of books but can never understand them. So sad! Wasting their time on something without understanding! I really feel sorry for them for sweating so hard for nothing!
Qur'an 5 48: "And We have sent down to you (O Muhammad SAW) the Book (this Quran) in truth, confirming the Scripture that came before it and Mohayminan (trustworthy in highness and a witness) over it (old Scriptures). So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging away from the truth that has come to you. To each among you, We have prescribed a law and a clear way. If Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but that (He) may test you in what He has given you; so strive as in a race in good deeds. The return of you (all) is to Allah; then He will inform you about that in which you used to differ." The main point is whether the old testament is in it's original form or not? And the answer is always "NO!". Qur'an 5 15-16: "O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Now has come to you Our Messenger (Muhammad SAW) explaining to you much of that which you used to hide from the Scripture and passing over (i.e. leaving out without explaining) much. Indeed, there has come to you from Allah a light (Prophet Muhammad SAW)* and a plain Book (this Quran). Wherewith Allah guides all those who seek His Good Pleasure to ways of peace, and He brings them out of darkness by His Will unto light and guides them to a Straight Way (Islamic Monotheism)." We Muslims believe those Bibles were corrupted. And the Qur'an does say that both the Old and the knew Testaments were corrupted by those ignorant people who wanted fame and a price. 👇 Quran Al-Baqarah 74: "(O Muslims, do you then expect that these people will accept your invitation and become believers? whereas there have always been among them some who have been hearing the Word of God, understanding it well and then perverting and tampering with it knowingly)." Quran Al-Baqarah 78: "But woe to them who fake the Scriptures and say: "This is from God," so that they might earn some profit thereby; and woe to them for what they fake, and woe to them for what they earn from it!" Quran Surah An-Nisa 46: "Among the Jews are those who distort words from their [proper] usages and say, “We hear and disobey” and “Hear but be not heard” and “Ra’ina,” twisting their tongues and defaming the religion. And if they had said [instead], “We hear and obey” and “Wait for us [to understand],” it would have been better for them and more suitable. But Allah has cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, except for a few)." Quran Al-Maeda 13: "But because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them, and made their hearts grow hard; they change the words from their (right) places and forget a good part of the message that was sent to them, nor wilt thou cease to find them- barring a few - ever bent on (new) deceits: but forgive them, and overlook (their misdeeds): for Allah loveth those who are kind." Quran Al-Imran 78: "And, behold, there are indeed some among them who distort the Bible with their tongues, so as to make you think that [what they say] is from the Bible, the while it is not from the Bible; and who say, "This is from God," the while it is not from God: and thus do they tell a lie about God, being well aware [that it is a lie]."
@@99chartered an ignorant fool that’s never heard of hadith sciences or even acknowledge the meticulousness of assessing hadiths is very funny, even orientalists would laugh at your statement
So basically it took them nearly 3 hours to say nothing but produce one random attribution to Ibn Abbas (ra) with no chain of transmission. Face palm indeed.
My ex (sons mother) is a hard core evangelist She even told me she can't take David Wood seriously. She said she hasn't took him seriously for about 5 years. She has no idea who Chris is and she doesn't like the "liar" APuss
Ya Muqallib al-quloob thabbit qalbi 'ala deenik يَا مُقَلِّبَ الْقُلُوبِ ثَبِّتْ قَلْبِى عَلَى دِينِكَ “O Controller of hearts, make my heart firm in Your religion.”
Dua to Protect Us from Shirk الَّلهُمَّ إِنِّي أَعُوذُ بِكَ أَنْ أُشْرِكَ بِكَ وأَنا َعلَمُ وأَستَغفِرُكَ لما لا أَعلَمُ Allahumma inni a`udhu bika an ushrika bika wa ana a`lamu wa astaghfiruka lima la a`lamu ‘ O Allah I seek refuge in You from knowingly associating partners with You, and I seek Your forgiveness for that which I do not know.’
اللَّهُمَّ أَعِنِّيْ عَلَى ذِكْرِكَ وَشُكْرِكَ وَحُسْنِ عِبَادَتِكَ Allahumma a inni Ala Zikrik Wa Shukrika Wa Husni Ibadatika O Allah, help me remember You, to be grateful to You, and to worship You,
the Prophet (saas) said: "There is no Muslim - or no person, or slave (of Allah) - who says, in the morning and evening: ' Radaytu billahi Rabban wa bil-Islami dinan wa bi Muhammadin رَضِيتُ بِاللَّهِ رَبًّا وَبِالإِسْلاَمِ دِينًا وَبِمُحَمَّدٍ نَبِيًّا (I am content with Allah as my Lord, Islam as my religion and Muhammad as my Prophet),' but he will have a promise from Allah to make him pleased on the Day of Resurrection.
@@babatundeopeyemi1423 We don't say Moses wrote the Torah, that is the belief of Christians and Jews. As Muslims, we believe that the Torah is a book revealed from God to Moses, Just like the Quran and the Injiil. They are the actual speech of God.
@@babatundeopeyemi1423 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ Brother all of what you just nonsense. You didn't even understand what I had wanted to say. The Torah according to us was a book from God, of course it was written, how are they supposed to read it if it was not written. However, Its words were not the words of Moses, those were the actual words of God, just like the Quran and the Injiil. So it was not made by Moses, but rather by God himself.
@@babatundeopeyemi1423 Secular historians don't even believe in someone lived by the name of Moses. even if they believe, they just assume. However, they are not sure. So, I don't think where you brought your arguments from. Plus, even if they say that Moses is the one who wrote, we must ask, which sources did they rely on while concluding this, of course the Christian and Jewish sources, so it means nothing to me at all.
@@babatundeopeyemi1423 I think you need to check your information mate. The Jewish history is full of corruption, times when they lost their language, and loss of texts. just compare the Septuagint to the Masoretic text and decide which one is reliable and correct. Plus, even the vowels were added until the tenth century. At the end of the day, there is corruption within your books, which no historian or Christian scholar denies.
@@babatundeopeyemi1423 I mean you lot are turning my brain into a slimy substance day by day with that level of ignorance, you just can't prove that the current Torah is written by Moses when the earliest manuscripts that includes bits of it is found more than a thousand of years after his death, even if you somehow find a one that comes from within the first century after. his death (which is impossible) , nobody knows who the authors of the Torah are , and atabarı mentioning people writing things about Moses proves that he believes in the corruption of the bible , which is the point of discussing here because the brain rot apologists that you worship failed to prove that the quran and sunna affirme the bible, so they opted to the early scholars instead, but no matter what direction they take , it's a dead end .
@@babatundeopeyemi1423Except we don't believe Moses (as) wrote the torah.... Even if he did how would that be proof for christianity?? And where would then be the torah that was written by moses?
It’s actually sad that the whole “Quran affirms the Bible” argument is still alive, the Quran does not affirm the Bible, but what it does say is so use the Quran as ultimate authority over previous scriptures…will they do that tho? No, because it would destroy their whole theology
"the Quran does not affirm the Bible" Lies, lies, lies. Quran 2:41 "And believe in what I have sent down 👉 confirming that which is [already] with you 👈 , and be not the first to disbelieve in it. And do not exchange My signs for a small price, and fear [only] Me." Quran 2:89 "Although they used to pray for victory ˹by means of the Prophet˺ over the polytheists, when there came to them a Book from Allah which they recognized, 👉 confirming the Scripture they had ˹in their hands˺ 👈 , they rejected it. So may Allah’s condemnation be upon the disbelievers." Quran: 2:97 "Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “Whoever is an enemy of Gabriel should know that he revealed this ˹Quran˺ to your heart by Allah’s Will, 👉 confirming what came before it 👈 -a guide and good news for the believers.” Quran 2:101 "Now, when a messenger from Allah has come to them- 👉 confirming their own Scriptures 👈 -some of the People of the Book cast the Book of Allah behind their backs as if they did not know." Quran 3:3 "He has revealed to you ˹O Prophet˺ the Book in truth, 👉 confirming what came before it, as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel" 👈 Quran 4:47 "O you who were given the Scripture, believe in what We have sent down [to Prophet Muḥammad (ﷺ)], 👉 confirming that which is with you 👈 , before We obliterate faces and turn them toward their backs or curse them as We cursed the sabbath-breakers.1 And ever is the matter [i.e., decree] of Allāh accomplished." Quran 5:46 "Then in the footsteps of the prophets, We sent Jesus, son of Mary, 👉 confirming the Torah revealed before him 👈 . And We gave him the Gospel containing guidance and light and confirming what was revealed in the Torah-a guide and a lesson to the God-fearing." (Jesus confirms the Torah of his time and we know what the Torah looked like in Jesus' time!) Quran 10:37 "It is not ˹possible˺ for this Quran to have been produced by anyone other than Allah. In fact, 👉 it is a confirmation of what came before 👈 , and an explanation of the Scripture. It is, without a doubt, from the Lord of all worlds." Quran 46:12 "And before this ˹Quran˺ the Book of Moses was ˹revealed as˺ a guide and mercy. 👉 And this Book is a confirmation, in the Arabic tongue 👈 , to warn those who do wrong, and as good news to those who do good."
@@HxzaifaaaQur'an 5 48: "And We have sent down to you (O Muhammad SAW) the Book (this Quran) in truth, confirming the Scripture that came before it and Mohayminan (trustworthy in highness and a witness) over it (old Scriptures). So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging away from the truth that has come to you. To each among you, We have prescribed a law and a clear way. If Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but that (He) may test you in what He has given you; so strive as in a race in good deeds. The return of you (all) is to Allah; then He will inform you about that in which you used to differ." The main point is whether the old testament is in it's original form or not? And the answer is always "NO!". Qur'an 5 15-16: "O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Now has come to you Our Messenger (Muhammad SAW) explaining to you much of that which you used to hide from the Scripture and passing over (i.e. leaving out without explaining) much. Indeed, there has come to you from Allah a light (Prophet Muhammad SAW)* and a plain Book (this Quran). Wherewith Allah guides all those who seek His Good Pleasure to ways of peace, and He brings them out of darkness by His Will unto light and guides them to a Straight Way (Islamic Monotheism)." We Muslims believe those Bibles were corrupted. And the Qur'an does say that both the Old and the knew Testaments were corrupted by those ignorant people who wanted fame and a price. 👇 Quran Al-Baqarah 74: "(O Muslims, do you then expect that these people will accept your invitation and become believers? whereas there have always been among them some who have been hearing the Word of God, understanding it well and then perverting and tampering with it knowingly)." Quran Al-Baqarah 78: "But woe to them who fake the Scriptures and say: "This is from God," so that they might earn some profit thereby; and woe to them for what they fake, and woe to them for what they earn from it!" Quran Surah An-Nisa 46: "Among the Jews are those who distort words from their [proper] usages and say, “We hear and disobey” and “Hear but be not heard” and “Ra’ina,” twisting their tongues and defaming the religion. And if they had said [instead], “We hear and obey” and “Wait for us [to understand],” it would have been better for them and more suitable. But Allah has cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, except for a few)." Quran Al-Maeda 13: "But because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them, and made their hearts grow hard; they change the words from their (right) places and forget a good part of the message that was sent to them, nor wilt thou cease to find them- barring a few - ever bent on (new) deceits: but forgive them, and overlook (their misdeeds): for Allah loveth those who are kind." Quran Al-Imran 78: "And, behold, there are indeed some among them who distort the Bible with their tongues, so as to make you think that [what they say] is from the Bible, the while it is not from the Bible; and who say, "This is from God," the while it is not from God: and thus do they tell a lie about God, being well aware [that it is a lie]."
I'm curious how David and his friend will address 1 Corinthians 15:4, especially in light of what they said at 2:32 The founder of their religion, Paul, stated that Jesus was buried and raised on the third day *according to the Scriptures.* Where exactly do the Scriptures ( The Hebrew Bible) say that?
Ibn Taymiyyah wrote a book titled Answering those who altered the religion of Jesus Christ questioning the authority of the apostles, which in turn questions the authenticity of the Books they claim from God.
@playerfaint7667 It wasnt Uthaman alone that gathered the Quran in one book but sahaba altogehter. The prophet gave authority to his sahaba as a collective. He said my ummah/sahaba will never gather upon misguidance.
@@playerfaint7667well he is the prophet's companion and he wasn't alone. He also consults others who were with the prophet. He wasn't the lone word in the matter. We literally have recorded procedures on how it's done.
@@playerfaint7667idk, it not like he characteristically reliable and leader of nation. Oh wait. He is. Also he is not on it alone. Again he consults everyone that is close to the prophet. And he is also close to the prophet. He wasn't some random person that you people like to think.
One of the things I hate about them is that they don't make research with the purpose of finding out what's True or not. Their goal is to "refute Farid"/"refute Islam". No matter how many times they've been proven wrong, they don't seem to care, all they want is to win an argument, like adolescents who refuse to admit they're wrong.
Qur'an 5 48: "And We have sent down to you (O Muhammad SAW) the Book (this Quran) in truth, confirming the Scripture that came before it and Mohayminan (trustworthy in highness and a witness) over it (old Scriptures). So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging away from the truth that has come to you. To each among you, We have prescribed a law and a clear way. If Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but that (He) may test you in what He has given you; so strive as in a race in good deeds. The return of you (all) is to Allah; then He will inform you about that in which you used to differ." The main point is whether the old testament is in it's original form or not? And the answer is always "NO!". Qur'an 5 15-16: "O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Now has come to you Our Messenger (Muhammad SAW) explaining to you much of that which you used to hide from the Scripture and passing over (i.e. leaving out without explaining) much. Indeed, there has come to you from Allah a light (Prophet Muhammad SAW)* and a plain Book (this Quran). Wherewith Allah guides all those who seek His Good Pleasure to ways of peace, and He brings them out of darkness by His Will unto light and guides them to a Straight Way (Islamic Monotheism)." We Muslims believe those Bibles were corrupted. And the Qur'an does say that both the Old and the knew Testaments were corrupted by those ignorant people who wanted fame and a price. 👇 Quran Al-Baqarah 74: "(O Muslims, do you then expect that these people will accept your invitation and become believers? whereas there have always been among them some who have been hearing the Word of God, understanding it well and then perverting and tampering with it knowingly)." Quran Al-Baqarah 78: "But woe to them who fake the Scriptures and say: "This is from God," so that they might earn some profit thereby; and woe to them for what they fake, and woe to them for what they earn from it!" Quran Surah An-Nisa 46: "Among the Jews are those who distort words from their [proper] usages and say, “We hear and disobey” and “Hear but be not heard” and “Ra’ina,” twisting their tongues and defaming the religion. And if they had said [instead], “We hear and obey” and “Wait for us [to understand],” it would have been better for them and more suitable. But Allah has cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, except for a few)." Quran Al-Maeda 13: "But because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them, and made their hearts grow hard; they change the words from their (right) places and forget a good part of the message that was sent to them, nor wilt thou cease to find them- barring a few - ever bent on (new) deceits: but forgive them, and overlook (their misdeeds): for Allah loveth those who are kind." Quran Al-Imran 78: "And, behold, there are indeed some among them who distort the Bible with their tongues, so as to make you think that [what they say] is from the Bible, the while it is not from the Bible; and who say, "This is from God," the while it is not from God: and thus do they tell a lie about God, being well aware [that it is a lie]."
@@babatundeopeyemi1423 first Moses himself didn’t write the Torah(it was given to him) and what it meant that they hear and altered might be like this story in the Quran when the Jews was given the sabbath that they tries to cheats it by throw the net before the sabbath to catch the fishes during the sabbath. And by now do we still have the original tablet of the Torah? No it was loss and was alters(the Jews might do it for some fleeting gains) because this days we can finds contradictions in it.
@@babatundeopeyemi1423 The synagogues existed at the time of Moses? My friend can I get the sources for that? I mean you can’t even proof that Moses even existed by the standards of this age because you do not have any manuscript dated back to the time of Moses.
Lets take 2 examples. Bible says that Aaron build the Golden cafe and led the Children of Israel away by calling on them to commit idol worship. Qur'an teaches a completely different account and teaches that Prophets are God fearing men and saved from sin. Qur'an teaches that a person named Samari made the golden calf. Bible talks about God resting, it talks about God walking in the garden of Eden looking for Adam. It talks about God coming to Moses (Exodus chapter 33). The Qur'an tells the truth about God and clears this dirt that the bible has thrown on God's name. One does not need to go for to see what the Qur'an's position about the existing present bible actually is. But these arrogant people would rather aim with stick in dark then use the light source given to them to find their way.
In the same stream they reacted on Farid's video ( David wood top argument debunked , islamic dilemma ) even though the rebuttals they tried to made were refuted by a pre recorded video, farid already refuted that 5 months ago and they instead of reacting to Farid's confirmation and rebuttals, they literally reacted to the same thing they did before, nothing new and crazy thing is , it also gets refuted by 5 months old pre recorded video.
@@planetrandom20Qur'an 5 48: "And We have sent down to you (O Muhammad SAW) the Book (this Quran) in truth, confirming the Scripture that came before it and Mohayminan (trustworthy in highness and a witness) over it (old Scriptures). So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging away from the truth that has come to you. To each among you, We have prescribed a law and a clear way. If Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but that (He) may test you in what He has given you; so strive as in a race in good deeds. The return of you (all) is to Allah; then He will inform you about that in which you used to differ." The main point is whether the old testament is in it's original form or not? And the answer is always "NO!". Qur'an 5 15-16: "O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Now has come to you Our Messenger (Muhammad SAW) explaining to you much of that which you used to hide from the Scripture and passing over (i.e. leaving out without explaining) much. Indeed, there has come to you from Allah a light (Prophet Muhammad SAW)* and a plain Book (this Quran). Wherewith Allah guides all those who seek His Good Pleasure to ways of peace, and He brings them out of darkness by His Will unto light and guides them to a Straight Way (Islamic Monotheism)." We Muslims believe those Bibles were corrupted. And the Qur'an does say that both the Old and the knew Testaments were corrupted by those ignorant people who wanted fame and a price. 👇 Quran Al-Baqarah 74: "(O Muslims, do you then expect that these people will accept your invitation and become believers? whereas there have always been among them some who have been hearing the Word of God, understanding it well and then perverting and tampering with it knowingly)." Quran Al-Baqarah 78: "But woe to them who fake the Scriptures and say: "This is from God," so that they might earn some profit thereby; and woe to them for what they fake, and woe to them for what they earn from it!" Quran Surah An-Nisa 46: "Among the Jews are those who distort words from their [proper] usages and say, “We hear and disobey” and “Hear but be not heard” and “Ra’ina,” twisting their tongues and defaming the religion. And if they had said [instead], “We hear and obey” and “Wait for us [to understand],” it would have been better for them and more suitable. But Allah has cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, except for a few)." Quran Al-Maeda 13: "But because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them, and made their hearts grow hard; they change the words from their (right) places and forget a good part of the message that was sent to them, nor wilt thou cease to find them- barring a few - ever bent on (new) deceits: but forgive them, and overlook (their misdeeds): for Allah loveth those who are kind." Quran Al-Imran 78: "And, behold, there are indeed some among them who distort the Bible with their tongues, so as to make you think that [what they say] is from the Bible, the while it is not from the Bible; and who say, "This is from God," the while it is not from God: and thus do they tell a lie about God, being well aware [that it is a lie]."
Yes he said that, but farid showed the shorter version of that Hadith in Sahih al-Bukhari (maybe for the sake of brevity) because he already showed the Tafsir of al-Tabari which alluded to the rest of that Hadith in minute 8:25
@@cldrawings1224 The cousin of the Holy Prophet in the hadith I cited is saying that the people of the book corrupted their scriptures by writing things which were not originally present in them, while the Quran is the newest revelation and perfectly free of any corruption
@@babatundeopeyemi1423Qur'an 5 48: "And We have sent down to you (O Muhammad SAW) the Book (this Quran) in truth, confirming the Scripture that came before it and Mohayminan (trustworthy in highness and a witness) over it (old Scriptures). So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging away from the truth that has come to you. To each among you, We have prescribed a law and a clear way. If Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but that (He) may test you in what He has given you; so strive as in a race in good deeds. The return of you (all) is to Allah; then He will inform you about that in which you used to differ." The main point is whether the old testament is in it's original form or not? And the answer is always "NO!". Qur'an 5 15-16: "O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Now has come to you Our Messenger (Muhammad SAW) explaining to you much of that which you used to hide from the Scripture and passing over (i.e. leaving out without explaining) much. Indeed, there has come to you from Allah a light (Prophet Muhammad SAW)* and a plain Book (this Quran). Wherewith Allah guides all those who seek His Good Pleasure to ways of peace, and He brings them out of darkness by His Will unto light and guides them to a Straight Way (Islamic Monotheism)." We Muslims believe those Bibles were corrupted. And the Qur'an does say that both the Old and the knew Testaments were corrupted by those ignorant people who wanted fame and a price. 👇 Quran Al-Baqarah 74: "(O Muslims, do you then expect that these people will accept your invitation and become believers? whereas there have always been among them some who have been hearing the Word of God, understanding it well and then perverting and tampering with it knowingly)." Quran Al-Baqarah 78: "But woe to them who fake the Scriptures and say: "This is from God," so that they might earn some profit thereby; and woe to them for what they fake, and woe to them for what they earn from it!" Quran Surah An-Nisa 46: "Among the Jews are those who distort words from their [proper] usages and say, “We hear and disobey” and “Hear but be not heard” and “Ra’ina,” twisting their tongues and defaming the religion. And if they had said [instead], “We hear and obey” and “Wait for us [to understand],” it would have been better for them and more suitable. But Allah has cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, except for a few)." Quran Al-Maeda 13: "But because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them, and made their hearts grow hard; they change the words from their (right) places and forget a good part of the message that was sent to them, nor wilt thou cease to find them- barring a few - ever bent on (new) deceits: but forgive them, and overlook (their misdeeds): for Allah loveth those who are kind." Quran Al-Imran 78: "And, behold, there are indeed some among them who distort the Bible with their tongues, so as to make you think that [what they say] is from the Bible, the while it is not from the Bible; and who say, "This is from God," the while it is not from God: and thus do they tell a lie about God, being well aware [that it is a lie]."
Masha'allah, allhamdulillah, jazak'allah khair akhi, these people just needs someone like you to show their lies and reveal the truth, may allah keep you on the right path always
I read the quran many times in my youth before youtube and hearing this argument. Not once, as a native arabic speaker, did i think the quran ever affirmed the bible. In anyway, shape, or form. In fact I always was of the understanding that the jews and christians corrupted their scriptures. The quran claims jesus didnt die and he wasnt god. How can it then affirm them. This is one of the least logical arguments i have ever heard. No muslim is going to change what they believe from the actual statements of the quran. If this is the hill they want to die on, let them, its taking them nowhere. Let us focus on the real arguments: the trinity makes no sense and is clearly pagan in origin and is so left field from jewish monothiestic scriptures, the christians follow paul who was in direct conflict with jesus' apostles, jews cant even step in a church they messed up so bad. Lets talk about how many of their theologians, ministers, priests, missionaries etc are converting to islam, and no legit imam has done the same. This is too easy for us
Farid already knows these apologists take attribution of statements to individuals as facts not assumptions lol. That's how they authenticate their gospels because they are all attributions to unknown Mark, Mathew, Luke and John even without knowing their family names or characters. So why are you torturing them Farid? Lol. They don't know statements without authentic chains aren't taken as facts in Islam. Apply this to the bible and even our weak hadith will be more authentic than the bible!
I appreciate these tri head pagen guys. For as long as they've been around, millions of reversions have occurred, many many people every day revert to lsIam alhamdulillah
@@babatundeopeyemi1423Qur'an 5 48: "And We have sent down to you (O Muhammad SAW) the Book (this Quran) in truth, confirming the Scripture that came before it and Mohayminan (trustworthy in highness and a witness) over it (old Scriptures). So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging away from the truth that has come to you. To each among you, We have prescribed a law and a clear way. If Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but that (He) may test you in what He has given you; so strive as in a race in good deeds. The return of you (all) is to Allah; then He will inform you about that in which you used to differ." The main point is whether the old testament is in it's original form or not? And the answer is always "NO!". Qur'an 5 15-16: "O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Now has come to you Our Messenger (Muhammad SAW) explaining to you much of that which you used to hide from the Scripture and passing over (i.e. leaving out without explaining) much. Indeed, there has come to you from Allah a light (Prophet Muhammad SAW)* and a plain Book (this Quran). Wherewith Allah guides all those who seek His Good Pleasure to ways of peace, and He brings them out of darkness by His Will unto light and guides them to a Straight Way (Islamic Monotheism)." We Muslims believe those Bibles were corrupted. And the Qur'an does say that both the Old and the knew Testaments were corrupted by those ignorant people who wanted fame and a price. 👇 Quran Al-Baqarah 74: "(O Muslims, do you then expect that these people will accept your invitation and become believers? whereas there have always been among them some who have been hearing the Word of God, understanding it well and then perverting and tampering with it knowingly)." Quran Al-Baqarah 78: "But woe to them who fake the Scriptures and say: "This is from God," so that they might earn some profit thereby; and woe to them for what they fake, and woe to them for what they earn from it!" Quran Surah An-Nisa 46: "Among the Jews are those who distort words from their [proper] usages and say, “We hear and disobey” and “Hear but be not heard” and “Ra’ina,” twisting their tongues and defaming the religion. And if they had said [instead], “We hear and obey” and “Wait for us [to understand],” it would have been better for them and more suitable. But Allah has cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, except for a few)." Quran Al-Maeda 13: "But because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them, and made their hearts grow hard; they change the words from their (right) places and forget a good part of the message that was sent to them, nor wilt thou cease to find them- barring a few - ever bent on (new) deceits: but forgive them, and overlook (their misdeeds): for Allah loveth those who are kind." Quran Al-Imran 78: "And, behold, there are indeed some among them who distort the Bible with their tongues, so as to make you think that [what they say] is from the Bible, the while it is not from the Bible; and who say, "This is from God," the while it is not from God: and thus do they tell a lie about God, being well aware [that it is a lie]."
@@Hxzaifaaa if so why didn’t he go over the claim of Ibn Qayyim. “Dumb video” calm your self you’re just an ignorant viewer. You watch christian apologists through Islamic channels. You haven’t watched these “dumb videos”
@@stresslimitI watch Christian apologists of my own free time to get a scope of their arguments dude, dont assume things you dont know. And im pretty sure Farid responded to your comment saying that there is no proof Ibn Qayyim held that view
With the narration of Ibn Abbas, there’s no issue with accepting it because it’s mu’allaq to the verse about the Preserved Tablet. Thus, here he would not be speaking about the books in their hands especially because he explicitly said they corrupted those.
Thank God there are linguists who translate the meaning. And if the meaning cannot be translated into another language, then that means that the text does not have a coherent meaning... so how can it be that the interpretation of the Koran seems to have one for all the needs of the narrative. And we know what that means.
@@exactormortis7433 Thank God there are Christians who are stupid enough to believe Chris and David the cross dresser otherwise who will pay their monthly bills ? And we know what that means.
@@jzaibkhan7864 And yet we have numerous texts translated from Hebrew scriptures whose meaning is conveyed perfectly clearly. And we even have classical Hebrew works that could have done the same. As I said, if you can't get a coherent meaning from the translation, the original text must be like that... as many linguists say about the Koran.
@@exactormortis7433 There's a saying, "Ignorance is bliss". And no, all Semitic languages have words like in the Qur'an that have more than one meaning like "Pilach" in Hebrew is used differently in different situations and you have to read the whole Bible and see all the different uses of the same word in different circumstances and reading the context in which that word is used to come up with a conclusion. You just don't know your own scripture and you will never read and understand the Hebrew language yet you are here arguing on another Semitic Language.
That Jai guy made a video response to farid's previous video refuting the claim that prophet Muhammad accepted the corrupted torah the title was "farid wont respond" ironically instead responding to brother farid's stream destroying his presentation about hafs being a liar. This guy started making videos about farid more and not responding to the main thing ! Saying farid wont respond 🤡
@@Paperboy_SC which Tafsir?? Did you even watch the video? Farid literally provided the Tafsir of al Tabari saying otherwise and refuting the notion of preservation instead!
@@babatundeopeyemi1423 do you have any carbon-dated manuscripts that dates back to the time of Moses??? You don't even have the original manuscripts of the NTas your own scholars admit, so let alone the OT! Also the point of the video mentioning al-Tabari, is to show that David and his friends failed the challange.
@@babatundeopeyemi1423 did you even watch the video??? You are saying that "it did not refute david" when you do not even know David's argument!!! David wood was trying to meet the challange as he was trying to name early scholars who held the position about the bible but he failed, this video shows exactly why! And whether you want to believe what al-Tabari said or not.. is irrelevant here, since this is not what was the challange about, it's mostly about whether the early muslim scholars held that position or not which david was trying to prove and he couldn't. So, watch the video again!
1:42 it does pretty clearly state the corruption of the torah. 5:13 "But for breaking their covenant We condemned them and hardened their hearts. They distorted the words of the Scripture and neglected a portion of what they had been commanded to uphold. You ˹O Prophet˺ will always find deceit on their part, except for a few. But pardon them and bear with them. Indeed, Allah loves the good-doers."
I don't think that's how this works... we don't need to believe in the bible to quote errors in it or just any verse that has contradiction of whichever aspect
@@k00lmohQur'an 5 48: "And We have sent down to you (O Muhammad SAW) the Book (this Quran) in truth, confirming the Scripture that came before it and Mohayminan (trustworthy in highness and a witness) over it (old Scriptures). So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging away from the truth that has come to you. To each among you, We have prescribed a law and a clear way. If Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but that (He) may test you in what He has given you; so strive as in a race in good deeds. The return of you (all) is to Allah; then He will inform you about that in which you used to differ." The main point is whether the old testament is in it's original form or not? And the answer is always "NO!". Qur'an 5 15-16: "O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Now has come to you Our Messenger (Muhammad SAW) explaining to you much of that which you used to hide from the Scripture and passing over (i.e. leaving out without explaining) much. Indeed, there has come to you from Allah a light (Prophet Muhammad SAW)* and a plain Book (this Quran). Wherewith Allah guides all those who seek His Good Pleasure to ways of peace, and He brings them out of darkness by His Will unto light and guides them to a Straight Way (Islamic Monotheism)." We Muslims believe those Bibles were corrupted. And the Qur'an does say that both the Old and the knew Testaments were corrupted by those ignorant people who wanted fame and a price. 👇 Quran Al-Baqarah 74: "(O Muslims, do you then expect that these people will accept your invitation and become believers? whereas there have always been among them some who have been hearing the Word of God, understanding it well and then perverting and tampering with it knowingly)." Quran Al-Baqarah 78: "But woe to them who fake the Scriptures and say: "This is from God," so that they might earn some profit thereby; and woe to them for what they fake, and woe to them for what they earn from it!" Quran Surah An-Nisa 46: "Among the Jews are those who distort words from their [proper] usages and say, “We hear and disobey” and “Hear but be not heard” and “Ra’ina,” twisting their tongues and defaming the religion. And if they had said [instead], “We hear and obey” and “Wait for us [to understand],” it would have been better for them and more suitable. But Allah has cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, except for a few)." Quran Al-Maeda 13: "But because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them, and made their hearts grow hard; they change the words from their (right) places and forget a good part of the message that was sent to them, nor wilt thou cease to find them- barring a few - ever bent on (new) deceits: but forgive them, and overlook (their misdeeds): for Allah loveth those who are kind." Quran Al-Imran 78: "And, behold, there are indeed some among them who distort the Bible with their tongues, so as to make you think that [what they say] is from the Bible, the while it is not from the Bible; and who say, "This is from God," the while it is not from God: and thus do they tell a lie about God, being well aware [that it is a lie]."
The bible corruption issue is the clearest example of muslims picking and choosing. The verses that align with the quran are preserved, everything else has been corrupted. WOW, with this way of thinking we really need to pray for them, they're fully locked into this islam thing.
If Bible is NOT CORRUPTED, tell me which version is approved by Yahweh or Jesus. The Catholic Church (Canon: 73 books) The Protestant Church (Canon: 66 books) Greek Orthodox Church (Canon: 77 books) The Coptic Church(Canon: 29 books in NT) The Ethiopic Church (Canon: 81 books) Don't be like all other Christians who read but understand not. Which version IS APPROVED BY YAHWEH OR JESUS?
3:15 I didn’t know Abdullah Bin Abbas lived 500 years after the Prophet ﷺ Narrated 'Ubaidullah bin `Abdullah: `Abdullah bin `Abbas said, "O the group of Muslims! How can you ask the people of the Scriptures about anything while your Book which Allah has revealed to your Prophet contains the most recent news from Allah and is pure and not distorted? Allah has told you that the people of the Scriptures have changed some of Allah's Books and distorted it and wrote something with their own hands and said, 'This is from Allah, so as to have a minor gain for it. Won't the knowledge that has come to you stop you from asking them? No, by Allah, we have never seen a man from them asking you about that (the Book Al-Qur'an ) which has been revealed to you. Sahih al-Bukhari 7523
this is the problem that people have when they fail to even understand what corruption means. tahrif(corruption) has degrees where you might have sections and parts which might be revelation as it was revealed and include human elements to the same part which is a revisionist element trying to re-invent the wheel. so if there are some of the clearest sections alluding towards the part of certain clear cut prophecies implying towards the prophets which doesn't imply preservation of the entirety of the text. its foolish to claim that if one part might be correct and then it implies the entirety of it is trustworthy. when we claim that the current books of the bible as a whole cannot be trusted fully for being the statements of god is for the simple fact that Christians cannot provide a proper chain of narration going all the way back to their respective authors (or in this case the respective prophets upon whom these works were revealed). And again as brother Farid rightly said when many of the duats who speak about the prophecy of the Muhammad (peace be upon him) within their scripture its not because we trust it verbatim we say it because Allah the one who revealed us told us that this part which is clear within their scripture and they know it very well and still go to reject it. when we believe in the revealed books we don't claim that the present Torah or the present gospel is the same one revealed up onto the respective prophets. however we do believe that it might consists elements from the original ones. hence the trust factor is absent. We trust the Quran because Allah preserved it and he caused the preservation through the geniuses within the ummah that many of the Ahl al-kitaab never could. so don't try to vent out your frustration on us with such shallow rants that renders it an insult being called a rebuttal. David even your audiences don't trust you. thank you for being untrustworthy so the sincere ones can differentiate between Haqq and Baatil
@FARID The QURAN has GUARDIAN over the TAWRAT, meaning the LAWS in the QURAN has AUTHORITY over the LAWS in the TAWRAT on the same matter. The QURAN is a GUARDIAN over the Tawrat, so JUDGE between THEM.
With all honesty, why are we still talking about David Wood and these guys? They have been dealt with. If someone stumbles across their content, and forms doubts, they can ask questions separate from giving these channels more publicity. We should be preaching and promoting Islam, not be constantly on the defensive.
No christians we don't believe in your bible we believe in a specific Gospel given to Jesus PBUH by God, Quran (3:3) "He has revealed to you ˹O Prophet˺ the Book in truth, confirming what came before it, as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel" (Notice the Quran says Gospel ergo singular not plural ergo not your bible) nor do you believe as us that God gave a book to Jesus PBUH you believe your bible is "inspired" by God and written by the "disciples"(unknown authors) later and no doesn't ma-tter where are the old books as the Quran is the last book even if they still exist we would still follow the Quran and so should you, "but God promised to preserve his scriptures and that no one can change his words", when verses of preservation and no one can change God's word is mentioned you need to take them into context, no God promised to preserve just the Quran, nonetheless the other scriptures are preserved in Heaven moreover depending on the verse God's Word may refer to His Will and Promises that people can't change and we believe in a specific Torah again given to Moses PBUH not written during his life and after him and we use the Quran as our criteria to accept parts of what's today in your bible and of the talmud Quran (5:48) "And We have revealed to you, [O Muḥammad], the Book [the Qur’ān] in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it. So judge between them by what Allāh has revealed and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. ...", and basic knowledge that Islam affirms the previous correct scriptures not the corru-pted ones and the verses of the Quran that speak of corru-ption are at the time of the prophet PBUH the same as those verses that affirms so sto-p with the clai-m that the affirmation was at the time of the 4 gospels so they must be correct leav-ing out what else the Quran and hadith says about the alter-ation of the previous scriptures Quran (2:65) "Do you covet [the hope, O believers], that they would believe for you while a party of them used to hear the words of Allāh and then distort it [i.e., the Torah] after they had understood it while they were knowing?" and Quran (2:79) "Then wo-e to those who write the Book with their own hands and then say, "This is from Allah," to purchase with it a little price! W-oe to them for what their hands have written and w-oe to them for that they earn thereby." and Sahih al-Bukhari 7523 Narrated 'Ubaidullah bin `Abdullah: `Abdullah bin `Abbas said, "O the group of Muslims! How can you ask the people of the Scriptures about anything while your Book which Allah has revealed to your Prophet contains the most recent news from Allah and is pure and not disto-rted? Allah has told you that the people of the Scriptures have changed some of Allah's Books and dist-orted it and wrote something with their own hands and said, 'This is from Allah, so as to have a minor gain for it. Won't the knowledge that has come to you stop you from asking them? No, by Allah, we have never seen a man from them asking you about that (the Book Al-Qur'an) which has been revealed to you." and plus if Islam affirms the bible then Islam is fa-lse so this doe-sn't h-elp you and even without Islam just read the kjv then niv for proof of corru-ption as an example let al-one all the err-ors and contrad-ictions in them and without the bible the Quran is enough to prove itself.
Qur'an 5 48: "And We have sent down to you (O Muhammad SAW) the Book (this Quran) in truth, confirming the Scripture that came before it and Mohayminan (trustworthy in highness and a witness) over it (old Scriptures). So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging away from the truth that has come to you. To each among you, We have prescribed a law and a clear way. If Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but that (He) may test you in what He has given you; so strive as in a race in good deeds. The return of you (all) is to Allah; then He will inform you about that in which you used to differ." The main point is whether the old testament is in it's original form or not? And the answer is always "NO!". Qur'an 5 15-16: "O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Now has come to you Our Messenger (Muhammad SAW) explaining to you much of that which you used to hide from the Scripture and passing over (i.e. leaving out without explaining) much. Indeed, there has come to you from Allah a light (Prophet Muhammad SAW)* and a plain Book (this Quran). Wherewith Allah guides all those who seek His Good Pleasure to ways of peace, and He brings them out of darkness by His Will unto light and guides them to a Straight Way (Islamic Monotheism)." We Muslims believe those Bibles were corrupted. And the Qur'an does say that both the Old and the knew Testaments were corrupted by those ignorant people who wanted fame and a price. 👇 Quran Al-Baqarah 74: "(O Muslims, do you then expect that these people will accept your invitation and become believers? whereas there have always been among them some who have been hearing the Word of God, understanding it well and then perverting and tampering with it knowingly)." Quran Al-Baqarah 78: "But woe to them who fake the Scriptures and say: "This is from God," so that they might earn some profit thereby; and woe to them for what they fake, and woe to them for what they earn from it!" Quran Surah An-Nisa 46: "Among the Jews are those who distort words from their [proper] usages and say, “We hear and disobey” and “Hear but be not heard” and “Ra’ina,” twisting their tongues and defaming the religion. And if they had said [instead], “We hear and obey” and “Wait for us [to understand],” it would have been better for them and more suitable. But Allah has cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, except for a few)." Quran Al-Maeda 13: "But because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them, and made their hearts grow hard; they change the words from their (right) places and forget a good part of the message that was sent to them, nor wilt thou cease to find them- barring a few - ever bent on (new) deceits: but forgive them, and overlook (their misdeeds): for Allah loveth those who are kind." Quran Al-Imran 78: "And, behold, there are indeed some among them who distort the Bible with their tongues, so as to make you think that [what they say] is from the Bible, the while it is not from the Bible; and who say, "This is from God," the while it is not from God: and thus do they tell a lie about God, being well aware [that it is a lie]."
Simeon and Levi are brothers- Their swords are weapons of violence. Let me not enter their council, Let me not join their assembly, For they have killed men in their anger And hamstrung oxen as they pleased. Cursed be their anger, so fierce, And their fury so cruel! I will scatter them in Jacob And disperse them in Israel (Genesis 49:5-7). The levites were punished for the same action that the new Jewish God Yahweh (instead of their old God Elohim and in Aramaic Elah) ordered them to do in 1st Samuels, "kill men women, children, suckling, ox and sheep." Isn't it a clear corruption in the Bible! These levites were ordered not to have any share in the inheritance and were only allowed to do priestly duties and have and survive on what others give to them as a punishment. All Jews have this belief that their Rabbi can argue and defeat God in the argument and can rewrite the scripture. Their levitical priests use to copy the Old testament every time a knew king was appointed and they use to destroy the originals. The levitical priest were given a responsibility but it seems that they failed and instead might've corrupted the scripture. As the Quran say that they were ordered differently than what is mentioned in the 1st Samuels. “Because of this, we decreed for the Children of Israel that anyone who murders any person who had not committed murder or horrendous crimes, it shall be as if he murdered all the people. And anyone who spares a life, it shall be as if he spared the lives of all the people. Our messengers went to them with clear proofs and revelations, but most of them, after all this, are still transgressing.” (Qur’an, 5:32)Simeon and Levi are brothers- Their swords are weapons of violence. Let me not enter their council, Let me not join their assembly, For they have killed men in their anger And hamstrung oxen as they pleased. Cursed be their anger, so fierce, And their fury so cruel! I will scatter them in Jacob And disperse them in Israel (Genesis 49:5-7). The levites were punished for the same action that the new Jewish God Yahweh (instead of their old God Elohim and in Aramaic Elah) ordered them to do in 1st Samuels, "kill men women, children, suckling, ox and sheep." Isn't it a clear corruption in the Bible! These levites were ordered not to have any share in the inheritance and were only allowed to do priestly duties and have and survive on what others give to them as a punishment. All Jews have this belief that their Rabbi can argue and defeat God in the argument and can rewrite the scripture. Their levitical priests use to copy the Old testament every time a knew king was appointed and they use to destroy the originals. The levitical priest were given a responsibility but it seems that they failed and instead might've corrupted the scripture. As the Quran say that they were ordered differently than what is mentioned in the 1st Samuels. “Because of this, we decreed for the Children of Israel that anyone who murders any person who had not committed murder or horrendous crimes, it shall be as if he murdered all the people. And anyone who spares a life, it shall be as if he spared the lives of all the people. Our messengers went to them with clear proofs and revelations, but most of them, after all this, are still transgressing.” (Qur’an, 5:32)
Christian scholars themselves say that the bible isn't perfectly preserved and these guys want us to believe that Muslim scholars held the opposite view ? C'mon now, they need to go back to sleep or something because that's another level of foolishness.
Curious what your response would be to a part of the video you didn't show here where Jai showed even the scholars in the hadith say how ridiculous claiming the book is corrupt is because if you hold the position how did a corruption make every single manuscript in so many languages and copies all over the world have the same corruption??? You don't see how dumb that position is?
What? The Bible has thousands of different variants, early mansucripts (oldest being only from 175 CE while 94% come from 9th century onwards) that don't have verses that Bible editions have like 1 John 5:7 that most Bibles removed or the famous story of the Adulteress that's fabricated as it's not found in early mansucripts as mentioned in the footnotes in the NIV. Bible being unpreserved is consensus amongst Christian scholars. These unacademic TH-cam apologists are so sad that they need to lie about Muslim scholars to convice us that the Bible is preserved 😂 Truly sad
@@mohamudahmed6554 You don't know what your talking about cause the majority of scholars dont say they are major differences. Here's what it says in Textual Criticism of the Bible: Revised Edition (Lexham Methods Series) "This proliferation of hand-copied texts resulted in thousands of manuscripts, no two exactly alike. Textual criticism is the discipline that guides scholars in establishing what the authors of the Bible wrote. This is especially important for those who value the Bible as God's Word. While most Christians may never study the original languages or engage in advanced textual criticism, the work of textual critics enables us to know with confidence what God has said through the human authors. In textual criticism, this is called a variation unit, and each different reading at that point is called a variant. Though there are thousands of variation units in the text of the Bible, the text is remarkably reliable. Old Testament scholar Bruce Waltke says the most recent critical edition of the entire Old Testament (BHS) has no significant variation in 90 percent of the text.' Of the thousands of instances of variation in the Bible, nearly all of them concern spelling, word order, synonyms, and other elements that do not affect meaning at all. Those variation units that affect the meaning of a biblical text are found in the footnotes of any good English Bible. Even these variants do not affect doctrine or theology.’"
@@gwejay There are major differences lol A difference that's a contradiction is a *MAJOR* difference. Corruption by adding verses that didn't exist in the earliest mansucripts is a major difference. Point is, the NT isn't from God nor it reliable nor does it even have basis. It's just what random,unknown men wrote that has remnants of the revelation given to Jesus ﷺ that you don't even belueve existed. Just to recap: The Christian Biblical scholars have a consensus that 1. The authors of the 4 Gospels are unknown nor were they eye witnesses 2. Not a single NT author is eye witness 3. Oldest mansucript, Rylands Library Papyrus P52, dates to 150-175 which shows that *no eye witness wrote it.* 4. 94% of the New Testament mansucripts comes from 9th century onwards i.e 94% of the NT mansucripts that *EXIST* were written after the Quran. References: Aland, Kurt; Aland, Barbara (1995). The Text of The New Testament: An Introduction to the Critical Editions and to the Theory and Practice of Modern Textual Criticism, p. 81 Reddish, Mitchell (2011). An Introduction to The Gospels. Lindars, Barnabas; Edwards, Ruth; Court, John M. (2000). The Johannine Literature Then you have edition like the NIV that says in it's footnotes that the Verses regarding the Adulteress are *NOT* in the early mansucripts thus making them fabricated verses. Famously 1 John 5:7 was shown to be a *fabrication* hence why most Bible editions *removed it completely.* The NT is corrupt. I don't need to get to the Torah since the NT is what Christians mostly care about.
Brother Farid, You've been debunking every single claims of David wood, Apostate prophet, Inspiring philosophy and so on. But brother, It would more benefits us if you debunk Sam shamoun claims. I'd like to see you refuting this Scam shamoun!. May Allah Bless you brother, love from bangladesh 🇧🇩
@@Hxzaifaaa yea,I agree with you!. He totally has garbage arguments but you know what, Many Muslims are being FOOLED by his ignorance!. Many christians are taking him as a role model. So,I truly want to see Scam shamoun refuted by This brother farid cuz he's been debunking APUS and dry wood's claims for several years!!. May Allah Bless him ❤️🖤
@@Alight_of_islam >>>>Many Muslims are being FOOLED by his ignorance!. ================== If the Muslims can easily be fooled, then it is their loss. They should know that knowledge is power.
@@Hxzaifaaa that guys adhd is so wild😂😂😂 i saw a christian girl asking questions to him then he suddenly made some clown face mid way for 3 seconds 😂😂😂😂😂
@@anonymous1531He actually flirts with a lot of girls on his calls, if you watch a video on the archives called "Female Muslim Starts Shaking Live After Learning the Truth about Islam" he calls the woman a "bold little lioness 🫣"
The thing is, and we all know this, David is not trying to find the truth. Rather, he is trying to maintain the flock from knowing the truth. That's why he doesn't watch your videos. Also, he knows that his flock doesn't watch either, they just go to the comments section and repeat his arguments on loop because that's the best they can offer. It's pathetic, it's boring, and down right annoying.
I have found personally that Mr. David Wood when uses the works of Muslim scholars. He intentionally or unintentionally skips certain parts of the text and adds his own interpretation, which completely contradicts or states a different meaning that was not originally quoted by the Muslim scholar. In fact, Mr. David uses the name of such a scholar and says that such Muslim scholar is forced to believe ...and later Mr. David add his own opinion. It is like putting his own words in the mouth of Muslim scholar, which originally such scholar never claimed.
How can a Christian really believe that the Qoran is saying that the Bible is fully preserved after these verses. All praise is for Allah Who has revealed the Book to His servant, allowing no crookedness in it, ˹ making it˺ perfectly upright, to warn ˹the disbelievers˺ of a severe torment from Him; to give good news to the believers-who do good-that they will have a fine reward, in which they will remain forever; and to warn those who claim, “Allah has offspring.” They have no knowledge of this, nor did their forefathers. What a terrible claim that comes out of their mouths! They say nothing but lies.
@@stresslimit Just one of many examples...the FABRICATED story of the ADULTERESS... The Story of the Adulteress is not found in all the earliest available Greek New Testament manuscripts which were produced before the fifth century CE. This means that the Bibles used by many early Christians did not contain the Story of the Adulteress. Papyrus 66 was produced during the second century CE. It is the earliest manuscript of the Gospel of John, and it does not contain the Story of the Adulteress. We observe the same thing when we examine other early and important New Testament Greek manuscripts such as Papyrus 75, Codex Sinaiticus, and Codex Vaticanus. In all these manuscripts, the last words of John 7:52 are followed immediately by the first words of John 8:12. In these early manuscripts, the Story of the Adulteress is nowhere to be found! The text of the Gospel of John used by early Christian communities in major cities also did not contain the Story of the Adulteress.
The ayah after the verse of judging by the injil says, and was revealed alongside that ayah. 5:48 "We have revealed to you ˹O Prophet˺ this Book with the truth, as a confirmation of previous Scriptures and as a Criterion over them. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their desires over the truth that has come to you." The Qur’an says it is a Muhaymin over them, meaning it is dominant, a witness, a corrector and the criterion. So whatever ticks the Qur’an’s criteria is from Allah, whatever does not is not from Allah, and does not make a judgment from such information. Tabari said this part means "The Qur'an is trustworthy over the Books that preceded it. Therefore, whatever in these previous Books conforms to the Qur'an is true, and whatever disagrees with the Qur'an is false." Considering 5:47-48 were revealed side by side, and considering the context. Allah is saying judge by your injil, however, accept the parts which align with the Qur’an’s narrative because the Qur’an is the criterion, meaning the criterion of judgment. That ayah was essentially the law of the Qur’an which is compatible with the injil, such as the messiahship of Jesus, John the Baptist and his father being righteous men before Jesus, Mary the virgin who was not an adulterer, Allah is one, Injil confirms the Torah, etc. Regarding the sonship of ‘Isa, the trinity (which isn’t even biblical) that is not what Allah says to judge by because the Qur’an was placed as the criterion that the injil had to tick off as per 5:48.
@@anonymous1531 Yes. This is the problem essentially. Why would the Ahlul Injil take the Quran as an authority to correct their scripture? In the New Testament we are given severe warnings about those that bring a new Gospel in Galatians for example: “But even if we, or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached, let him be anathema". (ليكن ملعونا) (Galatians 1:8) We see that there is no continuity with the Old and New Testament in the Quran. We know, for example from the New Testament that God gave us the sacrament of Baptism. In the words of Christ himself: “All authority has been to me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all men, baptising them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.” (Matthew 28:18) This refutes several Muslim misconceptions about Jesus: 1. The Trinity is not biblical (it is) 2. That Jesus came only for the Israelites. It’s clear from this that Jesus commanded his disciples to teach the Gospel to all nations. This is also a historical reality as we know the Christian faith spread throughout the world through the teachings of the Apostles of Christ. Where is the sacrament of Baptism in Islam since Muslims claim to believe in John the Baptist? Claiming that all parts of revealed scripture that don’t agree with the Quran are corrupted is not a good epistemology as the Quran doesn’t tell us directly what scripture is corrupted and should be ignored vs. revealed scripture.
If there are ao many early Muslim schoalrs who spoke about the corruption of the Torah and Gospel why didn't you just quote them? All the stuff I've only seen stuff feom the 11th century commonly used by Muslim apologists.
This video clearly shows that lack of understanding basics of Islam and hadith sciences just makes these apologists look like donkey carrying tones of books but can never understand them. So sad! Wasting their time on something without understanding! I really feel sorry for them for sweating so hard for nothing!
Nice reference 😏
Qur'an 5 48:
"And We have sent down to you (O Muhammad SAW) the Book (this Quran) in truth, confirming the Scripture that came before it and Mohayminan (trustworthy in highness and a witness) over it (old Scriptures). So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging away from the truth that has come to you. To each among you, We have prescribed a law and a clear way. If Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but that (He) may test you in what He has given you; so strive as in a race in good deeds. The return of you (all) is to Allah; then He will inform you about that in which you used to differ."
The main point is whether the old testament is in it's original form or not? And the answer is always "NO!".
Qur'an 5 15-16:
"O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Now has come to you Our Messenger (Muhammad SAW) explaining to you much of that which you used to hide from the Scripture and passing over (i.e. leaving out without explaining) much. Indeed, there has come to you from Allah a light (Prophet Muhammad SAW)* and a plain Book (this Quran). Wherewith Allah guides all those who seek His Good Pleasure to ways of peace, and He brings them out of darkness by His Will unto light and guides them to a Straight Way (Islamic Monotheism)."
We Muslims believe those Bibles were corrupted.
And the Qur'an does say that both the Old and the knew Testaments were corrupted by those ignorant people who wanted fame and a price.
👇
Quran Al-Baqarah 74:
"(O Muslims, do you then expect that these people will accept your invitation and become believers? whereas there have always been among them some who have been hearing the Word of God, understanding it well and then perverting and tampering with it knowingly)."
Quran Al-Baqarah 78:
"But woe to them who fake the Scriptures and say: "This is from God," so that they might earn some profit thereby; and woe to them for what they fake, and woe to them for what they earn from it!"
Quran Surah An-Nisa 46:
"Among the Jews are those who distort words from their [proper] usages and say, “We hear and disobey” and “Hear but be not heard” and “Ra’ina,” twisting their tongues and defaming the religion. And if they had said [instead], “We hear and obey” and “Wait for us [to understand],” it would have been better for them and more suitable. But Allah has cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, except for a few)."
Quran Al-Maeda 13:
"But because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them, and made their hearts grow hard; they change the words from their (right) places and forget a good part of the message that was sent to them, nor wilt thou cease to find them- barring a few - ever bent on (new) deceits: but forgive them, and overlook (their misdeeds): for Allah loveth those who are kind."
Quran Al-Imran 78:
"And, behold, there are indeed some among them who distort the Bible with their tongues, so as to make you think that [what they say] is from the Bible, the while it is not from the Bible; and who say, "This is from God," the while it is not from God: and thus do they tell a lie about God, being well aware [that it is a lie]."
@@99chartered an ignorant fool that’s never heard of hadith sciences or even acknowledge the meticulousness of assessing hadiths is very funny, even orientalists would laugh at your statement
@99chartered Hadith Qudsi is God's words. The hadith is the inspired words of prophet Muhammad(saws).
So basically it took them nearly 3 hours to say nothing but produce one random attribution to Ibn Abbas (ra) with no chain of transmission. Face palm indeed.
And cherry picking Ar Razi's Tafsir lol
Farid, the legend is back
My ex (sons mother) is a hard core evangelist
She even told me she can't take David Wood seriously. She said she hasn't took him seriously for about 5 years.
She has no idea who Chris is and she doesn't like the "liar" APuss
May Allah bless her heart with guidance towards Islam
@@TheRockeyAllen - AmeeeeeN
Your Ex doesn’t seem to have the mental fortitude.
@@JamieVanecek rightly so, why waste time on these Christian charlatans
@@JamieVanecek - Hahaha. R u jealous because a fellow Christian sister of yours can see straight through their BS?
Funny. Now, kick rocks.
These christians will do anything EXCEPT defending their religion
May allah bless bassam zawadi the author of call to monotheism. He's been debunking this arguments for decades
Osama Abdullah is a forgotten one
ameen
@@szuvibes9474who's that?
Yeah, he is a legend in disguise, not many people know him
@@szuvibes9474with all due respect brother Osama is all over the place. His website is an absolute mess and very off putting.
Ya Muqallib al-quloob thabbit qalbi 'ala deenik
يَا مُقَلِّبَ الْقُلُوبِ ثَبِّتْ قَلْبِى عَلَى دِينِكَ
“O Controller of hearts, make my heart firm in Your religion.”
Dua to Protect Us from Shirk
الَّلهُمَّ إِنِّي أَعُوذُ بِكَ أَنْ أُشْرِكَ بِكَ وأَنا َعلَمُ وأَستَغفِرُكَ لما لا أَعلَمُ
Allahumma inni a`udhu bika an ushrika bika wa ana a`lamu wa astaghfiruka lima la a`lamu ‘
O Allah I seek refuge in You from knowingly associating partners with You, and I seek Your forgiveness for that which I do not know.’
اللَّهُمَّ أَعِنِّيْ عَلَى ذِكْرِكَ وَشُكْرِكَ وَحُسْنِ عِبَادَتِكَ
Allahumma a inni Ala Zikrik Wa Shukrika Wa Husni Ibadatika
O Allah, help me remember You, to be grateful to You, and to worship You,
the Prophet (saas) said: "There is no Muslim - or no person, or slave (of Allah) - who says, in the morning and evening: '
Radaytu billahi Rabban wa bil-Islami dinan wa bi Muhammadin
رَضِيتُ بِاللَّهِ رَبًّا وَبِالإِسْلاَمِ دِينًا وَبِمُحَمَّدٍ نَبِيًّا
(I am content with Allah as my Lord, Islam as my religion and Muhammad as my Prophet),' but he will have a promise from Allah to make him pleased on the Day of Resurrection.
What Their response would be :
Refuting something but still avoiding the main thing of the video that makes their refutation useless
Bro its crazy, i see u in almost every islamic video. Mashallah sticking to the deen
@@babatundeopeyemi1423 We don't say Moses wrote the Torah, that is the belief of Christians and Jews. As Muslims, we believe that the Torah is a book revealed from God to Moses, Just like the Quran and the Injiil. They are the actual speech of God.
@@babatundeopeyemi1423 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ Brother all of what you just nonsense. You didn't even understand what I had wanted to say. The Torah according to us was a book from God, of course it was written, how are they supposed to read it if it was not written. However, Its words were not the words of Moses, those were the actual words of God, just like the Quran and the Injiil. So it was not made by Moses, but rather by God himself.
@@babatundeopeyemi1423 Secular historians don't even believe in someone lived by the name of Moses. even if they believe, they just assume. However, they are not sure. So, I don't think where you brought your arguments from. Plus, even if they say that Moses is the one who wrote, we must ask, which sources did they rely on while concluding this, of course the Christian and Jewish sources, so it means nothing to me at all.
@@babatundeopeyemi1423 I think you need to check your information mate. The Jewish history is full of corruption, times when they lost their language, and loss of texts. just compare the Septuagint to the Masoretic text and decide which one is reliable and correct. Plus, even the vowels were added until the tenth century. At the end of the day, there is corruption within your books, which no historian or Christian scholar denies.
if they actually listened to your arguments carefully and reflected they would be become muslim. The thing is this IS their "career"
True
100% their ego matters for them way more than finding the truth.
@@babatundeopeyemi1423 I mean you lot are turning my brain into a slimy substance day by day with that level of ignorance, you just can't prove that the current Torah is written by Moses when the earliest manuscripts that includes bits of it is found more than a thousand of years after his death, even if you somehow find a one that comes from within the first century after. his death (which is impossible) , nobody knows who the authors of the Torah are , and atabarı mentioning people writing things about Moses proves that he believes in the corruption of the bible , which is the point of discussing here because the brain rot apologists that you worship failed to prove that the quran and sunna affirme the bible, so they opted to the early scholars instead, but no matter what direction they take , it's a dead end .
@@babatundeopeyemi1423Except we don't believe Moses (as) wrote the torah.... Even if he did how would that be proof for christianity?? And where would then be the torah that was written by moses?
@@babatundeopeyemi1423If anything,Moses wouldn't even know what's christianity is and was 😅
It’s actually sad that the whole “Quran affirms the Bible” argument is still alive, the Quran does not affirm the Bible, but what it does say is so use the Quran as ultimate authority over previous scriptures…will they do that tho? No, because it would destroy their whole theology
"the Quran does not affirm the Bible"
Lies, lies, lies.
Quran 2:41 "And believe in what I have sent down 👉 confirming that which is [already] with you 👈 , and be not the first to disbelieve in it. And do not exchange My signs for a small price, and fear [only] Me."
Quran 2:89 "Although they used to pray for victory ˹by means of the Prophet˺ over the polytheists, when there came to them a Book from Allah which they recognized, 👉 confirming the Scripture they had ˹in their hands˺ 👈 , they rejected it. So may Allah’s condemnation be upon the disbelievers."
Quran: 2:97 "Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “Whoever is an enemy of Gabriel should know that he revealed this ˹Quran˺ to your heart by Allah’s Will, 👉 confirming what came before it 👈 -a guide and good news for the believers.”
Quran 2:101 "Now, when a messenger from Allah has come to them- 👉 confirming their own Scriptures 👈 -some of the People of the Book cast the Book of Allah behind their backs as if they did not know."
Quran 3:3 "He has revealed to you ˹O Prophet˺ the Book in truth, 👉 confirming what came before it, as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel" 👈
Quran 4:47 "O you who were given the Scripture, believe in what We have sent down [to Prophet Muḥammad (ﷺ)], 👉 confirming that which is with you 👈 , before We obliterate faces and turn them toward their backs or curse them as We cursed the sabbath-breakers.1 And ever is the matter [i.e., decree] of Allāh accomplished."
Quran 5:46 "Then in the footsteps of the prophets, We sent Jesus, son of Mary, 👉 confirming the Torah revealed before him 👈 . And We gave him the Gospel containing guidance and light and confirming what was revealed in the Torah-a guide and a lesson to the God-fearing."
(Jesus confirms the Torah of his time and we know what the Torah looked like in Jesus' time!)
Quran 10:37 "It is not ˹possible˺ for this Quran to have been produced by anyone other than Allah. In fact, 👉 it is a confirmation of what came before 👈 , and an explanation of the Scripture. It is, without a doubt, from the Lord of all worlds."
Quran 46:12 "And before this ˹Quran˺ the Book of Moses was ˹revealed as˺ a guide and mercy. 👉 And this Book is a confirmation, in the Arabic tongue 👈 , to warn those who do wrong, and as good news to those who do good."
@@Galmala94Did you just quote random Quran verses that mention the Torah and Injeel and try to make a point 😬
@@Hxzaifaaa Haha, did Farid delete my comment?
@@Hxzaifaaa No answer? :(
@@HxzaifaaaQur'an 5 48:
"And We have sent down to you (O Muhammad SAW) the Book (this Quran) in truth, confirming the Scripture that came before it and Mohayminan (trustworthy in highness and a witness) over it (old Scriptures). So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging away from the truth that has come to you. To each among you, We have prescribed a law and a clear way. If Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but that (He) may test you in what He has given you; so strive as in a race in good deeds. The return of you (all) is to Allah; then He will inform you about that in which you used to differ."
The main point is whether the old testament is in it's original form or not? And the answer is always "NO!".
Qur'an 5 15-16:
"O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Now has come to you Our Messenger (Muhammad SAW) explaining to you much of that which you used to hide from the Scripture and passing over (i.e. leaving out without explaining) much. Indeed, there has come to you from Allah a light (Prophet Muhammad SAW)* and a plain Book (this Quran). Wherewith Allah guides all those who seek His Good Pleasure to ways of peace, and He brings them out of darkness by His Will unto light and guides them to a Straight Way (Islamic Monotheism)."
We Muslims believe those Bibles were corrupted.
And the Qur'an does say that both the Old and the knew Testaments were corrupted by those ignorant people who wanted fame and a price.
👇
Quran Al-Baqarah 74:
"(O Muslims, do you then expect that these people will accept your invitation and become believers? whereas there have always been among them some who have been hearing the Word of God, understanding it well and then perverting and tampering with it knowingly)."
Quran Al-Baqarah 78:
"But woe to them who fake the Scriptures and say: "This is from God," so that they might earn some profit thereby; and woe to them for what they fake, and woe to them for what they earn from it!"
Quran Surah An-Nisa 46:
"Among the Jews are those who distort words from their [proper] usages and say, “We hear and disobey” and “Hear but be not heard” and “Ra’ina,” twisting their tongues and defaming the religion. And if they had said [instead], “We hear and obey” and “Wait for us [to understand],” it would have been better for them and more suitable. But Allah has cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, except for a few)."
Quran Al-Maeda 13:
"But because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them, and made their hearts grow hard; they change the words from their (right) places and forget a good part of the message that was sent to them, nor wilt thou cease to find them- barring a few - ever bent on (new) deceits: but forgive them, and overlook (their misdeeds): for Allah loveth those who are kind."
Quran Al-Imran 78:
"And, behold, there are indeed some among them who distort the Bible with their tongues, so as to make you think that [what they say] is from the Bible, the while it is not from the Bible; and who say, "This is from God," the while it is not from God: and thus do they tell a lie about God, being well aware [that it is a lie]."
Answering Christianity
Call to monotheism
Actual nightmare of answering Islam
Pretty good websites
I'm unable to access answering Christianity, is it still working?
Yup i just opened it after knowing about it@@TheRockeyAllen
@@TheRockeyAllenyes
@@TheRockeyAllenfor me it's working 😊
I'm curious how David and his friend will address 1 Corinthians 15:4, especially in light of what they said at 2:32
The founder of their religion, Paul, stated that Jesus was buried and raised on the third day *according to the Scriptures.* Where exactly do the Scriptures ( The Hebrew Bible) say that?
@@99chartered 😂 That's just a pathetic apologetic try to avoid the obvious answer. It is *not* found in the scriptures. It is simple as that.
@@99charteredThat verse has no mention of Jesus' death and resurrection.
Alhamdulillah for truth!
Doesn't matter how hard they try, reality speaks in volume.
David and his wife share same wardrobe.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Don't forget about his wife's boyfriend
Ibn Taymiyyah wrote a book titled Answering those who altered the religion of Jesus Christ
questioning the authority of the apostles, which in turn questions the authenticity of the Books they claim from God.
Who gave the authority to Uthman to collect the Quran ?
@playerfaint7667 It wasnt Uthaman alone that gathered the Quran in one book but sahaba altogehter. The prophet gave authority to his sahaba as a collective. He said my ummah/sahaba will never gather upon misguidance.
@@playerfaint7667well he is the prophet's companion and he wasn't alone. He also consults others who were with the prophet. He wasn't the lone word in the matter. We literally have recorded procedures on how it's done.
@@nurhaqim7159 I asked who gave the authority ,not who helped him
@@playerfaint7667idk, it not like he characteristically reliable and leader of nation. Oh wait. He is. Also he is not on it alone. Again he consults everyone that is close to the prophet. And he is also close to the prophet. He wasn't some random person that you people like to think.
Masha Allah Farid as excellent as usual in responding.
Say Allahuma barik not MashAllah
@@NormalMuslim7 why not both ?
@@zm_headhunter because it has been mentioned in a Hadith.
Farid skipped the part where They fulfilled farid challenge with islamic scholars. They said a group of muslims.
@@KingDrak3if I said person 1, 2, 3 doesn’t mean that they supported that view
Do more of these refutations to christian apologetics brother.
One of the things I hate about them is that they don't make research with the purpose of finding out what's True or not. Their goal is to "refute Farid"/"refute Islam". No matter how many times they've been proven wrong, they don't seem to care, all they want is to win an argument, like adolescents who refuse to admit they're wrong.
Qur'an 5 48:
"And We have sent down to you (O Muhammad SAW) the Book (this Quran) in truth, confirming the Scripture that came before it and Mohayminan (trustworthy in highness and a witness) over it (old Scriptures). So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging away from the truth that has come to you. To each among you, We have prescribed a law and a clear way. If Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but that (He) may test you in what He has given you; so strive as in a race in good deeds. The return of you (all) is to Allah; then He will inform you about that in which you used to differ."
The main point is whether the old testament is in it's original form or not? And the answer is always "NO!".
Qur'an 5 15-16:
"O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Now has come to you Our Messenger (Muhammad SAW) explaining to you much of that which you used to hide from the Scripture and passing over (i.e. leaving out without explaining) much. Indeed, there has come to you from Allah a light (Prophet Muhammad SAW)* and a plain Book (this Quran). Wherewith Allah guides all those who seek His Good Pleasure to ways of peace, and He brings them out of darkness by His Will unto light and guides them to a Straight Way (Islamic Monotheism)."
We Muslims believe those Bibles were corrupted.
And the Qur'an does say that both the Old and the knew Testaments were corrupted by those ignorant people who wanted fame and a price.
👇
Quran Al-Baqarah 74:
"(O Muslims, do you then expect that these people will accept your invitation and become believers? whereas there have always been among them some who have been hearing the Word of God, understanding it well and then perverting and tampering with it knowingly)."
Quran Al-Baqarah 78:
"But woe to them who fake the Scriptures and say: "This is from God," so that they might earn some profit thereby; and woe to them for what they fake, and woe to them for what they earn from it!"
Quran Surah An-Nisa 46:
"Among the Jews are those who distort words from their [proper] usages and say, “We hear and disobey” and “Hear but be not heard” and “Ra’ina,” twisting their tongues and defaming the religion. And if they had said [instead], “We hear and obey” and “Wait for us [to understand],” it would have been better for them and more suitable. But Allah has cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, except for a few)."
Quran Al-Maeda 13:
"But because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them, and made their hearts grow hard; they change the words from their (right) places and forget a good part of the message that was sent to them, nor wilt thou cease to find them- barring a few - ever bent on (new) deceits: but forgive them, and overlook (their misdeeds): for Allah loveth those who are kind."
Quran Al-Imran 78:
"And, behold, there are indeed some among them who distort the Bible with their tongues, so as to make you think that [what they say] is from the Bible, the while it is not from the Bible; and who say, "This is from God," the while it is not from God: and thus do they tell a lie about God, being well aware [that it is a lie]."
Its sad that most of davids audience dont see these videos. It would be so embarrasing for him
@@babatundeopeyemi1423?? When did he said that? Maybe give me the time mark and actually listen to it attentively
@@babatundeopeyemi1423 first Moses himself didn’t write the Torah(it was given to him) and what it meant that they hear and altered might be like this story in the Quran when the Jews was given the sabbath that they tries to cheats it by throw the net before the sabbath to catch the fishes during the sabbath. And by now do we still have the original tablet of the Torah? No it was loss and was alters(the Jews might do it for some fleeting gains) because this days we can finds contradictions in it.
@@babatundeopeyemi1423 and if you actually read the Quran; Allah says that the Quran is the criterion over the old scriptures. Quran 5:48
@@babatundeopeyemi1423 The synagogues existed at the time of Moses? My friend can I get the sources for that? I mean you can’t even proof that Moses even existed by the standards of this age because you do not have any manuscript dated back to the time of Moses.
@@babatundeopeyemi1423 I ask you to give me sources
Lets take 2 examples.
Bible says that Aaron build the Golden cafe and led the Children of Israel away by calling on them to commit idol worship. Qur'an teaches a completely different account and teaches that Prophets are God fearing men and saved from sin. Qur'an teaches that a person named Samari made the golden calf.
Bible talks about God resting, it talks about God walking in the garden of Eden looking for Adam. It talks about God coming to Moses (Exodus chapter 33). The Qur'an tells the truth about God and clears this dirt that the bible has thrown on God's name.
One does not need to go for to see what the Qur'an's position about the existing present bible actually is. But these arrogant people would rather aim with stick in dark then use the light source given to them to find their way.
In the same stream they reacted on Farid's video ( David wood top argument debunked , islamic dilemma ) even though the rebuttals they tried to made were refuted by a pre recorded video, farid already refuted that 5 months ago and they instead of reacting to Farid's confirmation and rebuttals, they literally reacted to the same thing they did before, nothing new and crazy thing is , it also gets refuted by 5 months old pre recorded video.
@@planetrandom20Qur'an 5 48:
"And We have sent down to you (O Muhammad SAW) the Book (this Quran) in truth, confirming the Scripture that came before it and Mohayminan (trustworthy in highness and a witness) over it (old Scriptures). So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging away from the truth that has come to you. To each among you, We have prescribed a law and a clear way. If Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but that (He) may test you in what He has given you; so strive as in a race in good deeds. The return of you (all) is to Allah; then He will inform you about that in which you used to differ."
The main point is whether the old testament is in it's original form or not? And the answer is always "NO!".
Qur'an 5 15-16:
"O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Now has come to you Our Messenger (Muhammad SAW) explaining to you much of that which you used to hide from the Scripture and passing over (i.e. leaving out without explaining) much. Indeed, there has come to you from Allah a light (Prophet Muhammad SAW)* and a plain Book (this Quran). Wherewith Allah guides all those who seek His Good Pleasure to ways of peace, and He brings them out of darkness by His Will unto light and guides them to a Straight Way (Islamic Monotheism)."
We Muslims believe those Bibles were corrupted.
And the Qur'an does say that both the Old and the knew Testaments were corrupted by those ignorant people who wanted fame and a price.
👇
Quran Al-Baqarah 74:
"(O Muslims, do you then expect that these people will accept your invitation and become believers? whereas there have always been among them some who have been hearing the Word of God, understanding it well and then perverting and tampering with it knowingly)."
Quran Al-Baqarah 78:
"But woe to them who fake the Scriptures and say: "This is from God," so that they might earn some profit thereby; and woe to them for what they fake, and woe to them for what they earn from it!"
Quran Surah An-Nisa 46:
"Among the Jews are those who distort words from their [proper] usages and say, “We hear and disobey” and “Hear but be not heard” and “Ra’ina,” twisting their tongues and defaming the religion. And if they had said [instead], “We hear and obey” and “Wait for us [to understand],” it would have been better for them and more suitable. But Allah has cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, except for a few)."
Quran Al-Maeda 13:
"But because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them, and made their hearts grow hard; they change the words from their (right) places and forget a good part of the message that was sent to them, nor wilt thou cease to find them- barring a few - ever bent on (new) deceits: but forgive them, and overlook (their misdeeds): for Allah loveth those who are kind."
Quran Al-Imran 78:
"And, behold, there are indeed some among them who distort the Bible with their tongues, so as to make you think that [what they say] is from the Bible, the while it is not from the Bible; and who say, "This is from God," the while it is not from God: and thus do they tell a lie about God, being well aware [that it is a lie]."
@@planetrandom20 use cohesive english bro
Didnt Ibn Abbas (RA) literally say they changed it with their own hands in sahih bukhari 7363? 🤔
Source?
Yes he said that, but farid showed the shorter version of that Hadith in Sahih al-Bukhari (maybe for the sake of brevity) because he already showed the Tafsir of al-Tabari which alluded to the rest of that Hadith in minute 8:25
@@irpanfauzi1160 Read my comment again 😭
@@cldrawings1224 The cousin of the Holy Prophet in the hadith I cited is saying that the people of the book corrupted their scriptures by writing things which were not originally present in them, while the Quran is the newest revelation and perfectly free of any corruption
@@cldrawings1224 It doesnt specify
MaashaAllah Farid! Excellent work. May Allah SWT increase you in imaan and grant you istiqaama inshaa Allah Ameen. Keep up the great work!
Beautiful, machaAllah. JazakAllahoukheir
@@babatundeopeyemi1423Qur'an 5 48:
"And We have sent down to you (O Muhammad SAW) the Book (this Quran) in truth, confirming the Scripture that came before it and Mohayminan (trustworthy in highness and a witness) over it (old Scriptures). So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging away from the truth that has come to you. To each among you, We have prescribed a law and a clear way. If Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but that (He) may test you in what He has given you; so strive as in a race in good deeds. The return of you (all) is to Allah; then He will inform you about that in which you used to differ."
The main point is whether the old testament is in it's original form or not? And the answer is always "NO!".
Qur'an 5 15-16:
"O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Now has come to you Our Messenger (Muhammad SAW) explaining to you much of that which you used to hide from the Scripture and passing over (i.e. leaving out without explaining) much. Indeed, there has come to you from Allah a light (Prophet Muhammad SAW)* and a plain Book (this Quran). Wherewith Allah guides all those who seek His Good Pleasure to ways of peace, and He brings them out of darkness by His Will unto light and guides them to a Straight Way (Islamic Monotheism)."
We Muslims believe those Bibles were corrupted.
And the Qur'an does say that both the Old and the knew Testaments were corrupted by those ignorant people who wanted fame and a price.
👇
Quran Al-Baqarah 74:
"(O Muslims, do you then expect that these people will accept your invitation and become believers? whereas there have always been among them some who have been hearing the Word of God, understanding it well and then perverting and tampering with it knowingly)."
Quran Al-Baqarah 78:
"But woe to them who fake the Scriptures and say: "This is from God," so that they might earn some profit thereby; and woe to them for what they fake, and woe to them for what they earn from it!"
Quran Surah An-Nisa 46:
"Among the Jews are those who distort words from their [proper] usages and say, “We hear and disobey” and “Hear but be not heard” and “Ra’ina,” twisting their tongues and defaming the religion. And if they had said [instead], “We hear and obey” and “Wait for us [to understand],” it would have been better for them and more suitable. But Allah has cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, except for a few)."
Quran Al-Maeda 13:
"But because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them, and made their hearts grow hard; they change the words from their (right) places and forget a good part of the message that was sent to them, nor wilt thou cease to find them- barring a few - ever bent on (new) deceits: but forgive them, and overlook (their misdeeds): for Allah loveth those who are kind."
Quran Al-Imran 78:
"And, behold, there are indeed some among them who distort the Bible with their tongues, so as to make you think that [what they say] is from the Bible, the while it is not from the Bible; and who say, "This is from God," the while it is not from God: and thus do they tell a lie about God, being well aware [that it is a lie]."
If bible is 100 preserved then i am the owner of the world💀
Somebody tell these Xtians that when they "change" the words of Allah, it stops being words of Allah.
May Allah SWT Preserve you
Alhamdulillah for Islam ❤️
It doesn’t take a genius to know that a book written many years after Jesus by anonymous authors is not considered Allahs Books ﷻ
"ex-mental patient" You still are Woody xD
MAY ALLAH BLESS YOU BRO🙌🙌
Masha'allah, allhamdulillah, jazak'allah khair akhi, these people just needs someone like you to show their lies and reveal the truth, may allah keep you on the right path always
I read the quran many times in my youth before youtube and hearing this argument.
Not once, as a native arabic speaker, did i think the quran ever affirmed the bible. In anyway, shape, or form.
In fact I always was of the understanding that the jews and christians corrupted their scriptures.
The quran claims jesus didnt die and he wasnt god. How can it then affirm them.
This is one of the least logical arguments i have ever heard. No muslim is going to change what they believe from the actual statements of the quran. If this is the hill they want to die on, let them, its taking them nowhere. Let us focus on the real arguments: the trinity makes no sense and is clearly pagan in origin and is so left field from jewish monothiestic scriptures, the christians follow paul who was in direct conflict with jesus' apostles, jews cant even step in a church they messed up so bad. Lets talk about how many of their theologians, ministers, priests, missionaries etc are converting to islam, and no legit imam has done the same.
This is too easy for us
Farid with amazing content as always
أحبك في الله يا اخي الغالي ❤ الله يحفظك
First :) was pretty eager to watch this video
“I dont even have monetization on” is WILD😂 ma-sha-Allah (as God wills) may he bless you sheikh❤☝️
Spam smash that like button. This video needs 1500 likes ATLEAST. Come on Muslims. Ahhh come on🔥
Farid already knows these apologists take attribution of statements to individuals as facts not assumptions lol. That's how they authenticate their gospels because they are all attributions to unknown Mark, Mathew, Luke and John even without knowing their family names or characters. So why are you torturing them Farid? Lol. They don't know statements without authentic chains aren't taken as facts in Islam. Apply this to the bible and even our weak hadith will be more authentic than the bible!
I appreciate these tri head pagen guys.
For as long as they've been around, millions of reversions have occurred, many many people every day revert to lsIam alhamdulillah
@@babatundeopeyemi1423Qur'an 5 48:
"And We have sent down to you (O Muhammad SAW) the Book (this Quran) in truth, confirming the Scripture that came before it and Mohayminan (trustworthy in highness and a witness) over it (old Scriptures). So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging away from the truth that has come to you. To each among you, We have prescribed a law and a clear way. If Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but that (He) may test you in what He has given you; so strive as in a race in good deeds. The return of you (all) is to Allah; then He will inform you about that in which you used to differ."
The main point is whether the old testament is in it's original form or not? And the answer is always "NO!".
Qur'an 5 15-16:
"O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Now has come to you Our Messenger (Muhammad SAW) explaining to you much of that which you used to hide from the Scripture and passing over (i.e. leaving out without explaining) much. Indeed, there has come to you from Allah a light (Prophet Muhammad SAW)* and a plain Book (this Quran). Wherewith Allah guides all those who seek His Good Pleasure to ways of peace, and He brings them out of darkness by His Will unto light and guides them to a Straight Way (Islamic Monotheism)."
We Muslims believe those Bibles were corrupted.
And the Qur'an does say that both the Old and the knew Testaments were corrupted by those ignorant people who wanted fame and a price.
👇
Quran Al-Baqarah 74:
"(O Muslims, do you then expect that these people will accept your invitation and become believers? whereas there have always been among them some who have been hearing the Word of God, understanding it well and then perverting and tampering with it knowingly)."
Quran Al-Baqarah 78:
"But woe to them who fake the Scriptures and say: "This is from God," so that they might earn some profit thereby; and woe to them for what they fake, and woe to them for what they earn from it!"
Quran Surah An-Nisa 46:
"Among the Jews are those who distort words from their [proper] usages and say, “We hear and disobey” and “Hear but be not heard” and “Ra’ina,” twisting their tongues and defaming the religion. And if they had said [instead], “We hear and obey” and “Wait for us [to understand],” it would have been better for them and more suitable. But Allah has cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, except for a few)."
Quran Al-Maeda 13:
"But because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them, and made their hearts grow hard; they change the words from their (right) places and forget a good part of the message that was sent to them, nor wilt thou cease to find them- barring a few - ever bent on (new) deceits: but forgive them, and overlook (their misdeeds): for Allah loveth those who are kind."
Quran Al-Imran 78:
"And, behold, there are indeed some among them who distort the Bible with their tongues, so as to make you think that [what they say] is from the Bible, the while it is not from the Bible; and who say, "This is from God," the while it is not from God: and thus do they tell a lie about God, being well aware [that it is a lie]."
@@babatundeopeyemi1423 Bro if someone changing it, it would not be the same as the original.
@@babatundeopeyemi1423 yeah I probably misread. Anyway just look at how modern news how they spread lies.
2 hours of hard work were destroyed in 16 min flat. May Allah put Baraka in this channel.
Hard work is a stretch to put it lightly
That’s cause he dodged the other claims 😭
@@stresslimit Wasnt the stream just a review of Jai's dumb video?
@@Hxzaifaaa if so why didn’t he go over the claim of Ibn Qayyim. “Dumb video” calm your self you’re just an ignorant viewer. You watch christian apologists through Islamic channels. You haven’t watched these “dumb videos”
@@stresslimitI watch Christian apologists of my own free time to get a scope of their arguments dude, dont assume things you dont know.
And im pretty sure Farid responded to your comment saying that there is no proof Ibn Qayyim held that view
may allah bless you for your work on exposing the true side of the cross
May Allah richly bless our brother Farid
Aameen
The fact that David's tag is "DAWAH DESTROYER" just shows how much he is obsessed with islam 😂😂😂
Just like everyone in his field
@@docholiday708 So true
well his weekly income is based on how much lies he can tell against Islam
Bro nearly killed his dad💀💀💀
@@anonymous1531 Indeed, also not to mention he wore his wife's pink dress. 🤣🤣🤣
Lol I always look forward to the ending always hilarious.😂
With the narration of Ibn Abbas, there’s no issue with accepting it because it’s mu’allaq to the verse about the Preserved Tablet. Thus, here he would not be speaking about the books in their hands especially because he explicitly said they corrupted those.
Last 25 seconds was the best
They keep saying "books" but not specifically the Bible... we believe in the books of Allah, not the Bible.
Chris " I have read the earlier scholars .. "
Also Chris " I cannot read or understand Arabic"
🤦🤦♂🤦♀🤦🤦♂🤦♀
Thank God there are linguists who translate the meaning. And if the meaning cannot be translated into another language, then that means that the text does not have a coherent meaning... so how can it be that the interpretation of the Koran seems to have one for all the needs of the narrative. And we know what that means.
@@exactormortis7433 Same is said about Hebrew language but you will never read and never know how Semitic languages work.
@@exactormortis7433 Thank God there are Christians who are stupid enough to believe Chris and David the cross dresser otherwise who will pay their monthly bills ? And we know what that means.
@@jzaibkhan7864 And yet we have numerous texts translated from Hebrew scriptures whose meaning is conveyed perfectly clearly. And we even have classical Hebrew works that could have done the same. As I said, if you can't get a coherent meaning from the translation, the original text must be like that... as many linguists say about the Koran.
@@exactormortis7433 There's a saying, "Ignorance is bliss".
And no, all Semitic languages have words like in the Qur'an that have more than one meaning like "Pilach" in Hebrew is used differently in different situations and you have to read the whole Bible and see all the different uses of the same word in different circumstances and reading the context in which that word is used to come up with a conclusion.
You just don't know your own scripture and you will never read and understand the Hebrew language yet you are here arguing on another Semitic Language.
EX MENTAL PATIENT.AMAZING
That Jai guy made a video response to farid's previous video refuting the claim that prophet Muhammad accepted the corrupted torah the title was "farid wont respond" ironically instead responding to brother farid's stream destroying his presentation about hafs being a liar. This guy started making videos about farid more and not responding to the main thing ! Saying farid wont respond 🤡
@@Paperboy_SC
evidence?
@@Paperboy_SC which Tafsir?? Did you even watch the video? Farid literally provided the Tafsir of al Tabari saying otherwise and refuting the notion of preservation instead!
@@babatundeopeyemi1423
Evidence moses wrote your old testament?
@@babatundeopeyemi1423 do you have any carbon-dated manuscripts that dates back to the time of Moses??? You don't even have the original manuscripts of the NTas your own scholars admit, so let alone the OT!
Also the point of the video mentioning al-Tabari, is to show that David and his friends failed the challange.
@@babatundeopeyemi1423 did you even watch the video??? You are saying that "it did not refute david" when you do not even know David's argument!!! David wood was trying to meet the challange as he was trying to name early scholars who held the position about the bible but he failed, this video shows exactly why!
And whether you want to believe what al-Tabari said or not.. is irrelevant here, since this is not what was the challange about, it's mostly about whether the early muslim scholars held that position or not which david was trying to prove and he couldn't.
So, watch the video again!
One after One, a video after another. goodness man. how can they dare say...
The endings are the best as always 😂😂😂😂
بارك الله فيك اخي
I'm your brother but not from Yemen
1:42 it does pretty clearly state the corruption of the torah.
5:13
"But for breaking their covenant We condemned them and hardened their hearts. They distorted the words of the Scripture and neglected a portion of what they had been commanded to uphold. You ˹O Prophet˺ will always find deceit on their part, except for a few. But pardon them and bear with them. Indeed, Allah loves the good-doers."
May allah reward you for exposing the fundamental lies and deceit of the missionaries
ma sha Allah
Jazak Allah Khiar ✨😍🥰
Bru these missionaries can’t access the scholarly traditions anyway 😂
How many times did David quote the Qur’an in his attacks against Islam ? All the time, yet I’m sure he doesn’t believe in it.
I don't think that's how this works...
we don't need to believe in the bible to quote errors in it or just any verse that has contradiction of whichever aspect
@@k00lmohQur'an 5 48:
"And We have sent down to you (O Muhammad SAW) the Book (this Quran) in truth, confirming the Scripture that came before it and Mohayminan (trustworthy in highness and a witness) over it (old Scriptures). So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging away from the truth that has come to you. To each among you, We have prescribed a law and a clear way. If Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but that (He) may test you in what He has given you; so strive as in a race in good deeds. The return of you (all) is to Allah; then He will inform you about that in which you used to differ."
The main point is whether the old testament is in it's original form or not? And the answer is always "NO!".
Qur'an 5 15-16:
"O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Now has come to you Our Messenger (Muhammad SAW) explaining to you much of that which you used to hide from the Scripture and passing over (i.e. leaving out without explaining) much. Indeed, there has come to you from Allah a light (Prophet Muhammad SAW)* and a plain Book (this Quran). Wherewith Allah guides all those who seek His Good Pleasure to ways of peace, and He brings them out of darkness by His Will unto light and guides them to a Straight Way (Islamic Monotheism)."
We Muslims believe those Bibles were corrupted.
And the Qur'an does say that both the Old and the knew Testaments were corrupted by those ignorant people who wanted fame and a price.
👇
Quran Al-Baqarah 74:
"(O Muslims, do you then expect that these people will accept your invitation and become believers? whereas there have always been among them some who have been hearing the Word of God, understanding it well and then perverting and tampering with it knowingly)."
Quran Al-Baqarah 78:
"But woe to them who fake the Scriptures and say: "This is from God," so that they might earn some profit thereby; and woe to them for what they fake, and woe to them for what they earn from it!"
Quran Surah An-Nisa 46:
"Among the Jews are those who distort words from their [proper] usages and say, “We hear and disobey” and “Hear but be not heard” and “Ra’ina,” twisting their tongues and defaming the religion. And if they had said [instead], “We hear and obey” and “Wait for us [to understand],” it would have been better for them and more suitable. But Allah has cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, except for a few)."
Quran Al-Maeda 13:
"But because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them, and made their hearts grow hard; they change the words from their (right) places and forget a good part of the message that was sent to them, nor wilt thou cease to find them- barring a few - ever bent on (new) deceits: but forgive them, and overlook (their misdeeds): for Allah loveth those who are kind."
Quran Al-Imran 78:
"And, behold, there are indeed some among them who distort the Bible with their tongues, so as to make you think that [what they say] is from the Bible, the while it is not from the Bible; and who say, "This is from God," the while it is not from God: and thus do they tell a lie about God, being well aware [that it is a lie]."
Lollllll this is more of a hobby 😂.. good one.. so chilled out
CASE CLOSED
The bible corruption issue is the clearest example of muslims picking and choosing. The verses that align with the quran are preserved, everything else has been corrupted. WOW, with this way of thinking we really need to pray for them, they're fully locked into this islam thing.
If Bible is NOT CORRUPTED, tell me which version is approved by Yahweh or Jesus.
The Catholic Church (Canon: 73 books)
The Protestant Church (Canon: 66 books)
Greek Orthodox Church (Canon: 77 books)
The Coptic Church(Canon: 29 books in NT)
The Ethiopic Church (Canon: 81 books)
Don't be like all other Christians who read but understand not.
Which version IS APPROVED BY YAHWEH OR JESUS?
Its not our fault youre too stupid to understand what corruption means. You guys couldnt even agree on what was cannon and what wasnt for centuries.
Beautiful ❤
Excellent
And yet again we stand unfazed
3:15 I didn’t know Abdullah Bin Abbas lived 500 years after the Prophet ﷺ
Narrated 'Ubaidullah bin `Abdullah:
`Abdullah bin `Abbas said, "O the group of Muslims! How can you ask the people of the Scriptures about anything while your Book which Allah has revealed to your Prophet contains the most recent news from Allah and is pure and not distorted? Allah has told you that the people of the Scriptures have changed some of Allah's Books and distorted it and wrote something with their own hands and said, 'This is from Allah, so as to have a minor gain for it. Won't the knowledge that has come to you stop you from asking them? No, by Allah, we have never seen a man from them asking you about that (the Book Al-Qur'an ) which has been revealed to you. Sahih al-Bukhari 7523
this is the problem that people have when they fail to even understand what corruption means. tahrif(corruption) has degrees where you might have sections and parts which might be revelation as it was revealed and include human elements to the same part which is a revisionist element trying to re-invent the wheel. so if there are some of the clearest sections alluding towards the part of certain clear cut prophecies implying towards the prophets which doesn't imply preservation of the entirety of the text. its foolish to claim that if one part might be correct and then it implies the entirety of it is trustworthy. when we claim that the current books of the bible as a whole cannot be trusted fully for being the statements of god is for the simple fact that Christians cannot provide a proper chain of narration going all the way back to their respective authors (or in this case the respective prophets upon whom these works were revealed). And again as brother Farid rightly said when many of the duats who speak about the prophecy of the Muhammad (peace be upon him) within their scripture its not because we trust it verbatim we say it because Allah the one who revealed us told us that this part which is clear within their scripture and they know it very well and still go to reject it. when we believe in the revealed books we don't claim that the present Torah or the present gospel is the same one revealed up onto the respective prophets. however we do believe that it might consists elements from the original ones. hence the trust factor is absent. We trust the Quran because Allah preserved it and he caused the preservation through the geniuses within the ummah that many of the Ahl al-kitaab never could. so don't try to vent out your frustration on us with such shallow rants that renders it an insult being called a rebuttal. David even your audiences don't trust you. thank you for being untrustworthy so the sincere ones can differentiate between Haqq and Baatil
❤❤❤
Oh my goodness. I kinda feel bad for laughing at the video towards the end, but Brother Farid cooked David Wood.
May Allah reward you Brother Farid.
@FARID The QURAN has GUARDIAN over the TAWRAT, meaning the LAWS in the QURAN has AUTHORITY over the LAWS in the TAWRAT on the same matter.
The QURAN is a GUARDIAN over the Tawrat, so JUDGE between THEM.
With all honesty, why are we still talking about David Wood and these guys? They have been dealt with. If someone stumbles across their content, and forms doubts, they can ask questions separate from giving these channels more publicity. We should be preaching and promoting Islam, not be constantly on the defensive.
They are the best thing christianity has to offer lmao
No christians we don't believe in your bible we believe in a specific Gospel given to Jesus PBUH by God, Quran (3:3) "He has revealed to you ˹O Prophet˺ the Book in truth, confirming what came before it, as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel" (Notice the Quran says Gospel ergo singular not plural ergo not your bible) nor do you believe as us that God gave a book to Jesus PBUH you believe your bible is "inspired" by God and written by the "disciples"(unknown authors) later and no doesn't ma-tter where are the old books as the Quran is the last book even if they still exist we would still follow the Quran and so should you, "but God promised to preserve his scriptures and that no one can change his words", when verses of preservation and no one can change God's word is mentioned you need to take them into context, no God promised to preserve just the Quran, nonetheless the other scriptures are preserved in Heaven moreover depending on the verse God's Word may refer to His Will and Promises that people can't change and we believe in a specific Torah again given to Moses PBUH not written during his life and after him and we use the Quran as our criteria to accept parts of what's today in your bible and of the talmud Quran (5:48) "And We have revealed to you, [O Muḥammad], the Book [the Qur’ān] in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it. So judge between them by what Allāh has revealed and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. ...", and basic knowledge that Islam affirms the previous correct scriptures not the corru-pted ones and the verses of the Quran that speak of corru-ption are at the time of the prophet PBUH the same as those verses that affirms so sto-p with the clai-m that the affirmation was at the time of the 4 gospels so they must be correct leav-ing out what else the Quran and hadith says about the alter-ation of the previous scriptures Quran (2:65) "Do you covet [the hope, O believers], that they would believe for you while a party of them used to hear the words of Allāh and then distort it [i.e., the Torah] after they had understood it while they were knowing?" and Quran (2:79) "Then wo-e to those who write the Book with their own hands and then say, "This is from Allah," to purchase with it a little price! W-oe to them for what their hands have written and w-oe to them for that they earn thereby." and Sahih al-Bukhari 7523 Narrated 'Ubaidullah bin `Abdullah: `Abdullah bin `Abbas said, "O the group of Muslims! How can you ask the people of the Scriptures about anything while your Book which Allah has revealed to your Prophet contains the most recent news from Allah and is pure and not disto-rted? Allah has told you that the people of the Scriptures have changed some of Allah's Books and dist-orted it and wrote something with their own hands and said, 'This is from Allah, so as to have a minor gain for it. Won't the knowledge that has come to you stop you from asking them? No, by Allah, we have never seen a man from them asking you about that (the Book Al-Qur'an) which has been revealed to you." and plus if Islam affirms the bible then Islam is fa-lse so this doe-sn't h-elp you and even without Islam just read the kjv then niv for proof of corru-ption as an example let al-one all the err-ors and contrad-ictions in them and without the bible the Quran is enough to prove itself.
David is the best example of
"Let me spend my whole career to learn your belief so I won't have time to study mine"
mashallah brother
W farid
Things are a lot cheaper in villages than in Accra
😅😅😅🤣🤣🤣🤣 the end is hilarious
I couldn't care less whats in their scriptures if it they get God is a bloke from reading them.
1. How did Muslims “find out” what was in the Bible if The Prophet copied it? 2:30
Qur'an 5 48:
"And We have sent down to you (O Muhammad SAW) the Book (this Quran) in truth, confirming the Scripture that came before it and Mohayminan (trustworthy in highness and a witness) over it (old Scriptures). So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging away from the truth that has come to you. To each among you, We have prescribed a law and a clear way. If Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but that (He) may test you in what He has given you; so strive as in a race in good deeds. The return of you (all) is to Allah; then He will inform you about that in which you used to differ."
The main point is whether the old testament is in it's original form or not? And the answer is always "NO!".
Qur'an 5 15-16:
"O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Now has come to you Our Messenger (Muhammad SAW) explaining to you much of that which you used to hide from the Scripture and passing over (i.e. leaving out without explaining) much. Indeed, there has come to you from Allah a light (Prophet Muhammad SAW)* and a plain Book (this Quran). Wherewith Allah guides all those who seek His Good Pleasure to ways of peace, and He brings them out of darkness by His Will unto light and guides them to a Straight Way (Islamic Monotheism)."
We Muslims believe those Bibles were corrupted.
And the Qur'an does say that both the Old and the knew Testaments were corrupted by those ignorant people who wanted fame and a price.
👇
Quran Al-Baqarah 74:
"(O Muslims, do you then expect that these people will accept your invitation and become believers? whereas there have always been among them some who have been hearing the Word of God, understanding it well and then perverting and tampering with it knowingly)."
Quran Al-Baqarah 78:
"But woe to them who fake the Scriptures and say: "This is from God," so that they might earn some profit thereby; and woe to them for what they fake, and woe to them for what they earn from it!"
Quran Surah An-Nisa 46:
"Among the Jews are those who distort words from their [proper] usages and say, “We hear and disobey” and “Hear but be not heard” and “Ra’ina,” twisting their tongues and defaming the religion. And if they had said [instead], “We hear and obey” and “Wait for us [to understand],” it would have been better for them and more suitable. But Allah has cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, except for a few)."
Quran Al-Maeda 13:
"But because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them, and made their hearts grow hard; they change the words from their (right) places and forget a good part of the message that was sent to them, nor wilt thou cease to find them- barring a few - ever bent on (new) deceits: but forgive them, and overlook (their misdeeds): for Allah loveth those who are kind."
Quran Al-Imran 78:
"And, behold, there are indeed some among them who distort the Bible with their tongues, so as to make you think that [what they say] is from the Bible, the while it is not from the Bible; and who say, "This is from God," the while it is not from God: and thus do they tell a lie about God, being well aware [that it is a lie]."
Simeon and Levi are brothers-
Their swords are weapons of violence.
Let me not enter their council,
Let me not join their assembly,
For they have killed men in their anger
And hamstrung oxen as they pleased.
Cursed be their anger, so fierce,
And their fury so cruel!
I will scatter them in Jacob
And disperse them in Israel (Genesis 49:5-7).
The levites were punished for the same action that the new Jewish God Yahweh (instead of their old God Elohim and in Aramaic Elah) ordered them to do in 1st Samuels, "kill men women, children, suckling, ox and sheep."
Isn't it a clear corruption in the Bible!
These levites were ordered not to have any share in the inheritance and were only allowed to do priestly duties and have and survive on what others give to them as a punishment.
All Jews have this belief that their Rabbi can argue and defeat God in the argument and can rewrite the scripture. Their levitical priests use to copy the Old testament every time a knew king was appointed and they use to destroy the originals.
The levitical priest were given a responsibility but it seems that they failed and instead might've corrupted the scripture.
As the Quran say that they were ordered differently than what is mentioned in the 1st Samuels.
“Because of this, we decreed for the Children of Israel that anyone who murders any person who had not committed murder or horrendous crimes, it shall be as if he murdered all the people. And anyone who spares a life, it shall be as if he spared the lives of all the people. Our messengers went to them with clear proofs and revelations, but most of them, after all this, are still transgressing.” (Qur’an, 5:32)Simeon and Levi are brothers-
Their swords are weapons of violence.
Let me not enter their council,
Let me not join their assembly,
For they have killed men in their anger
And hamstrung oxen as they pleased.
Cursed be their anger, so fierce,
And their fury so cruel!
I will scatter them in Jacob
And disperse them in Israel (Genesis 49:5-7).
The levites were punished for the same action that the new Jewish God Yahweh (instead of their old God Elohim and in Aramaic Elah) ordered them to do in 1st Samuels, "kill men women, children, suckling, ox and sheep."
Isn't it a clear corruption in the Bible!
These levites were ordered not to have any share in the inheritance and were only allowed to do priestly duties and have and survive on what others give to them as a punishment.
All Jews have this belief that their Rabbi can argue and defeat God in the argument and can rewrite the scripture. Their levitical priests use to copy the Old testament every time a knew king was appointed and they use to destroy the originals.
The levitical priest were given a responsibility but it seems that they failed and instead might've corrupted the scripture.
As the Quran say that they were ordered differently than what is mentioned in the 1st Samuels.
“Because of this, we decreed for the Children of Israel that anyone who murders any person who had not committed murder or horrendous crimes, it shall be as if he murdered all the people. And anyone who spares a life, it shall be as if he spared the lives of all the people. Our messengers went to them with clear proofs and revelations, but most of them, after all this, are still transgressing.” (Qur’an, 5:32)
Christian scholars themselves say that the bible isn't perfectly preserved and these guys want us to believe that Muslim scholars held the opposite view ? C'mon now, they need to go back to sleep or something because that's another level of foolishness.
Curious what your response would be to a part of the video you didn't show here where Jai showed even the scholars in the hadith say how ridiculous claiming the book is corrupt is because if you hold the position how did a corruption make every single manuscript in so many languages and copies all over the world have the same corruption??? You don't see how dumb that position is?
What? The Bible has thousands of different variants, early mansucripts (oldest being only from 175 CE while 94% come from 9th century onwards) that don't have verses that Bible editions have like 1 John 5:7 that most Bibles removed or the famous story of the Adulteress that's fabricated as it's not found in early mansucripts as mentioned in the footnotes in the NIV.
Bible being unpreserved is consensus amongst Christian scholars. These unacademic TH-cam apologists are so sad that they need to lie about Muslim scholars to convice us that the Bible is preserved 😂 Truly sad
@@mohamudahmed6554 You don't know what your talking about cause the majority of scholars dont say they are major differences. Here's what it says in Textual Criticism of the Bible: Revised Edition (Lexham Methods Series)
"This proliferation of hand-copied texts resulted in thousands of manuscripts, no two exactly alike. Textual criticism is the discipline that guides scholars in establishing what the authors of the Bible wrote. This is especially important for those who value the Bible as God's Word. While most Christians may never study the original languages or engage in advanced textual criticism, the work of textual critics enables us to know with confidence what God has said through the human authors.
In textual criticism, this is called a variation unit, and each different reading at that point is called a variant.
Though there are thousands of variation units in the text of the Bible, the text is remarkably reliable. Old Testament scholar Bruce Waltke says the most recent critical edition of the entire Old Testament (BHS) has no significant variation in 90 percent of the text.' Of the thousands of instances of variation in the Bible, nearly all of them concern spelling, word order, synonyms, and other elements that do not affect meaning at all. Those variation units that affect the meaning of a biblical text are found in the footnotes of any good English Bible. Even these variants do not affect doctrine or theology.’"
@@gwejay There are major differences lol A difference that's a contradiction is a *MAJOR* difference. Corruption by adding verses that didn't exist in the earliest mansucripts is a major difference.
Point is, the NT isn't from God nor it reliable nor does it even have basis. It's just what random,unknown men wrote that has remnants of the revelation given to Jesus ﷺ that you don't even belueve existed.
Just to recap:
The Christian Biblical scholars have a consensus that
1. The authors of the 4 Gospels are unknown nor were they eye witnesses
2. Not a single NT author is eye witness
3. Oldest mansucript, Rylands Library Papyrus P52, dates to 150-175 which shows that *no eye witness wrote it.*
4. 94% of the New Testament mansucripts comes from 9th century onwards i.e 94% of the NT mansucripts that *EXIST* were written after the Quran.
References:
Aland, Kurt; Aland, Barbara (1995). The Text of The New Testament: An Introduction to the Critical Editions and to the Theory and Practice of Modern Textual Criticism, p. 81
Reddish, Mitchell (2011). An Introduction to The Gospels.
Lindars, Barnabas; Edwards, Ruth; Court, John M. (2000). The Johannine Literature
Then you have edition like the NIV that says in it's footnotes that the Verses regarding the Adulteress are *NOT* in the early mansucripts thus making them fabricated verses. Famously 1 John 5:7 was shown to be a *fabrication* hence why most Bible editions *removed it completely.*
The NT is corrupt. I don't need to get to the Torah since the NT is what Christians mostly care about.
Every thing they say could say about bible and jesues
Lol the end
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Brother Farid, You've been debunking every single claims of David wood, Apostate prophet, Inspiring philosophy and so on. But brother, It would more benefits us if you debunk Sam shamoun claims. I'd like to see you refuting this Scam shamoun!. May Allah Bless you brother, love from bangladesh 🇧🇩
I dont think Sam is worth it tbh, his arguments are so childish 😭
@@Hxzaifaaa yea,I agree with you!. He totally has garbage arguments but you know what, Many Muslims are being FOOLED by his ignorance!. Many christians are taking him as a role model. So,I truly want to see Scam shamoun refuted by This brother farid cuz he's been debunking APUS and dry wood's claims for several years!!. May Allah Bless him ❤️🖤
@@Alight_of_islam >>>>Many Muslims are being FOOLED by his ignorance!.
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If the Muslims can easily be fooled, then it is their loss.
They should know that knowledge is power.
@@Hxzaifaaa that guys adhd is so wild😂😂😂 i saw a christian girl asking questions to him then he suddenly made some clown face mid way for 3 seconds 😂😂😂😂😂
@@anonymous1531He actually flirts with a lot of girls on his calls, if you watch a video on the archives called "Female Muslim Starts Shaking Live After Learning the Truth about Islam" he calls the woman a "bold little lioness 🫣"
The thing is, and we all know this, David is not trying to find the truth. Rather, he is trying to maintain the flock from knowing the truth. That's why he doesn't watch your videos. Also, he knows that his flock doesn't watch either, they just go to the comments section and repeat his arguments on loop because that's the best they can offer. It's pathetic, it's boring, and down right annoying.
I honestly watch your videos mainly for the last few seconds of mad clips of those crazy apologists being psychotic 😂
"man we got issues.." 😂 😂 😂
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They are delulu
Leave it to Muslims to make it about scholars instead of what their god says very plainly
What does “their” God says?
3:37 So in the time of prophet saw the torah & bibel was not corrupt can anyone explain this to me?
The trinity of ignorance
I have found personally that Mr. David Wood when uses the works of Muslim scholars. He intentionally or unintentionally skips certain parts of the text and adds his own interpretation, which completely contradicts or states a different meaning that was not originally quoted by the Muslim scholar.
In fact, Mr. David uses the name of such a scholar and says that such Muslim scholar is forced to believe ...and later Mr. David add his own opinion.
It is like putting his own words in the mouth of Muslim scholar, which originally such scholar never claimed.
How can a Christian really believe that the Qoran is saying that the Bible is fully preserved after these verses.
All praise is for Allah Who has revealed the Book to His servant, allowing no crookedness in it, ˹
making it˺ perfectly upright, to warn ˹the disbelievers˺ of a severe torment from Him; to give good news to the believers-who do good-that they will have a fine reward,
in which they will remain forever;
and to warn those who claim, “Allah has offspring.”
They have no knowledge of this, nor did their forefathers. What a terrible claim that comes out of their mouths! They say nothing but lies.
How can you believe an entire collection of books that people who have studied for centuries. MIRACULOUSLY got corrupted. And NO ONE REALISED IT..?
@@stresslimit
Just one of many examples...the FABRICATED story of the ADULTERESS...
The Story of the Adulteress is not found in all the earliest available Greek New Testament manuscripts which were produced before the fifth century CE. This means that the Bibles used by many early Christians did not contain the Story of the Adulteress.
Papyrus 66 was produced during the second century CE. It is the earliest manuscript of the Gospel of John, and it does not contain the Story of the Adulteress.
We observe the same thing when we examine other early and important New Testament Greek manuscripts such as Papyrus 75, Codex Sinaiticus, and Codex Vaticanus. In all these manuscripts, the last words of John 7:52 are followed immediately by the first words of John 8:12. In these early manuscripts, the Story of the Adulteress is nowhere to be found!
The text of the Gospel of John used by early Christian communities in major cities also did not contain the Story of the Adulteress.
@@stresslimit
Of course Bible has been corrupted.
Otherwise, there is only ONE BIBLE instead of the many versions.
A book filled with contradictions can NOT be from Allah.
OK. So which version of the Gospel do we judge by?
The ayah after the verse of judging by the injil says, and was revealed alongside that ayah.
5:48 "We have revealed to you ˹O Prophet˺ this Book with the truth, as a confirmation of previous Scriptures and as a Criterion over them. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their desires over the truth that has come to you."
The Qur’an says it is a Muhaymin over them, meaning it is dominant, a witness, a corrector and the criterion.
So whatever ticks the Qur’an’s criteria is from Allah, whatever does not is not from Allah, and does not make a judgment from such information.
Tabari said this part means "The Qur'an is trustworthy over the Books that preceded it. Therefore, whatever in these previous Books conforms to the Qur'an is true, and whatever disagrees with the Qur'an is false."
Considering 5:47-48 were revealed side by side, and considering the context. Allah is saying judge by your injil, however, accept the parts which align with the Qur’an’s narrative because the Qur’an is the criterion, meaning the criterion of judgment. That ayah was essentially the law of the Qur’an which is compatible with the injil, such as the messiahship of Jesus, John the Baptist and his father being righteous men before Jesus, Mary the virgin who was not an adulterer, Allah is one, Injil confirms the Torah, etc. Regarding the sonship of ‘Isa, the trinity (which isn’t even biblical) that is not what Allah says to judge by because the Qur’an was placed as the criterion that the injil had to tick off as per 5:48.
@@anonymous1531 Yes. This is the problem essentially. Why would the Ahlul Injil take the Quran as an authority to correct their scripture? In the New Testament we are given severe warnings about those that bring a new Gospel in Galatians for example:
“But even if we, or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached, let him be anathema". (ليكن ملعونا) (Galatians 1:8)
We see that there is no continuity with the Old and New Testament in the Quran. We know, for example from the New Testament that God gave us the sacrament of Baptism.
In the words of Christ himself:
“All authority has been to me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all men, baptising them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.” (Matthew 28:18)
This refutes several Muslim misconceptions about Jesus: 1. The Trinity is not biblical (it is)
2. That Jesus came only for the Israelites. It’s clear from this that Jesus commanded his disciples to teach the Gospel to all nations. This is also a historical reality as we know the Christian faith spread throughout the world through the teachings of the Apostles of Christ.
Where is the sacrament of Baptism in Islam since Muslims claim to believe in John the Baptist?
Claiming that all parts of revealed scripture that don’t agree with the Quran are corrupted is not a good epistemology as the Quran doesn’t tell us directly what scripture is corrupted and should be ignored vs. revealed scripture.
If there are ao many early Muslim schoalrs who spoke about the corruption of the Torah and Gospel why didn't you just quote them? All the stuff I've only seen stuff feom the 11th century commonly used by Muslim apologists.
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