Can we all just take a moment to appreciate this channel's graphic design. Starting with the channels logo the garand enbolc Bible to the film reel moon clip for clips to the stopwatch scope reticle of minute of mae to the base of the cartridge used for primer. Every last one of these is just perfect.
As the military and Garand himself said in ww2 ....."A clip is used to feed a magazine and the magazine feeds the gun" There are VERY few examples where the area a clip is held is not a magazine that feeds the rounds into line for the bolt. Even Garand, Vitali, and Bergmann called their clip holding area that actually advanced and helps feed rounds a magazine when they developed them
@Robert Sears no they arent. Not in the least bit. You obviously didnt pay attention. An en bloc for example doesnt do what a mag does. it is a speedloading device mostly. A clip only loads a magazine, the magazine is what holds the clips and feeds the ammo using a follower
@@Shadow0fd3ath24 Half credit. There are two major kinds of clips as denoted in the video, the "Retaining Clip", ie those retained by the gun generally to act as a round guide/retaining device. While a "Loading Clip", ie those not retained by the gun, are as you stated nothing more than a speed loading device. As such the Moon Clip would be a "Retaining Clip" as they are held within the cylinder until unloaded. Now, what's the difference? Well an SKS can be loaded to full capacity without a Stripper Clip and will function normally. While an M1 Garand can only be loaded with a single round directly into the chamber without an En Bloc Clip as it does not have a built-in round guide or retaining device itself. Or in other words one is optional, while the other is essential for intended operation. This is also the case for Moon Clips which are almost universally used with rimless ammo that would otherwise not function within your typical revolver.
So a paper clip is a thing that only holds all the papers together until they're inserted into the bin, but a magazine has all the papers stapled together and the whole thing goes into the bin. Gotcha...
In the German language, you would distinguish between a „Laderahmen“ („loading frame“ = System Mannlicher etc. = left side) and a „Ladestreifen“ („loading strip“ = System Mauser etc. = right side). And a „Magazin“ (magazine), of course.
@@Odin029 And if it doesn’t, you can always ram 20 or 30 words together to get the right specific meaning. I am looking at you “kraftfahrzeughaftpflichtversicherung.”
@@rob6850 i know. I had a person who thought that a m1 don't have a magazine cause you put the clip inside the gun. He did not believe me when i googled pictures showing part names
It was only on the interwebs that I first saw the term 'stripper clip' for things like the item on the left. I'd been reliably informed that those were called 'chargers,' since you used them to charge the magazine. Some old stuff distinguishes 'loading'--putting a round in the chamber for possible firing--from 'charging'--putting a round in the magazine...from whence it might be loaded later.
So for feeding systems I think we can break down as such: Belts, Magazines (1911, Luger, etc...), En bloc (My mind jumped to the term active stripper clip) (Mannlicher, Garand, etc...), and passive stripper clip (Mauser, Mosin, etc...). Seems to be pretty clear from there.
The original 'en bloc' was patented as the _Mannlicher Packet Loading System._ The Mannlicher Schoenauer used Otto Schoenauer's rotary magazine which could, on the early models, be fed from a 'stripper clip.'
Great presentation short and to the point. The last rotary clip was new to me, I am familiar with the Mannlicher Schoenauer and Savage 99 but this is the first removable one I have seen. Always something new to learn.
The difference regarding the Hotchkiss clip is, that the Hotchkiss is feeding actively. Meaning the force to present the cartridges comes indirectly from the powder charge. The other guns got feed passively. Meaning the force to present the cartridges does not come from the power of the gun, but from a spring spun before the firing cycle.
Very nice job man! I've been trying to explain this to even people who think they know a lot about firearms over the last 30 Years, yet still Hollywood, the news media, and countless other firearm ignoramuses keep calling magazines clips, thinking the two words are interchangeable, but of course they describe two different devices.
You have reminded me of a forum conversation that I had a while ago (though I'm blanking on some details) in which I had to provide a link to the Wikipedia article on moon clips after I used the term in reference to a revolver, and someone decided that they needed to correct me... to 'magazine.' In a revolver. Yeah. On the bright side, the person took being corrected well, instead of getting angry at me.
I was led to believe that the term stems from a magazine being the compartment in a ship where ammunition was stored. Whether it be powder and shot or shells.
It literally comes from the French word “magasin” or “store”. Add your favorite descriptor for additional specificity, e.g le magasin de poudre (powder magazine).
Othias is the Steven Wright of gun You Tubers. Perfect deadpan delivery. Good on you, Mae, from forcing him to reveal his comedic talent to us all! (Although the It's a Trap vids did that well also.)
Yes, the transition to detachable magazines, as most transitions go, wasn’t an immediate thing, especially for people who grew up with rifles featuring an internal magazine that could be disassembled, but not removed as part of the standard loading procedure.
It drives me up the wall seeing dozens of comments in person or online directed towards people that get it wrong, from people so proud they have that elementary knowledge.
There's also a hybrid "maga-clip" used by a scarce Brno "Vz24-ish" .22LR training rifle I had in temporal custody for a while. Although missing, it was easy to deduce what it was from the internal parts of the feeding system. Basically it was like any 5-round .22LR magazine that was inserted from below BUT must have looked like a Steyr clip with a floor plate. Once inserted the follower went through its front and you could open the bolt and load it round by round like a normal magazine but already inserted inside the rifle.
I hate it when I see a movie where actors say I need another clip for my gun or something like that. Handguns and morden rifles use magazines not clips. I blame Hollywood for the confusion. Thanks for making this video 👍
Except my father, who served in the infantry in Vietnam, uses both terms, and tells me they frequently used both terms in the jungle. The only people who get super heated over what you call the thing what has the bullets are sad, pendantic nerds.
Any list of three things should be followed by, "Oh, My!" So well done, indeed. Somehow I picked up this habit many years ago and can scarcely stop. It's potentially a problem- when I get really old people might think I'm nuts...
If you're the competitive overachiever type of personality, you get a Dardick! It has 2 magazines! An internal fixed box magazine, and a cylinder with multiple chambers! 😺 A revolver's cylinder is a form of magazine too. 🤷🏻♂️ The Dardick feeds the trounds (triangle cartridges) out of the box mag into a cylinder chamber where it rotates up into bore alignment and is fired. 😺
A magazine is a spring loaded device that moves ammo, usually into the way of the bolt. A cylinder is not a magazine by definition. If it were.... a lot of 8-10 shot revolvers would be illegal in NY lol
Is there a difference between a stripper clip and a charger? Are those terms synonymous? Or do they describe two different "flavours" auf the same thing? I heard the loading aid for the swiss straight pulls being refered to as chargers more often than as stripper clips, for example.
@@LukeBunyip Lol there are probably at least two or three videos in the Colt auto lineage leading up to it that still have to be made before that episode
My personal favorite is Otto Schoenauer's rotary magazine as used in the Mannlicher Schoenauer which can, on the earlier models, be fed by 'stripper clip',
I vaguely remember Othais saying something like "We dont have live rounds on the set" in regards to feedback the show received surrounding C&Rsenal's safety practices. Not a Judgement (the last time I shot a rifle was in boy scouts) but I think it would be interesting to see a video about your safety practices on set and on the range. Might get some good karma with the All Powerful Algorithm too.
Hi there, sorry to bother but anyone can help me to any forum or place where i can find a list of clip fed handguns ? I'm trying to do some research but i can only stumble on the rifles part but not the pistols (except the mauser of course) , anyway thanks for the help .
I'm now kinda curious, why do we call a magazine, a magazine? I know that it has something to do with old cannon ammo storage, but how does that translate to the modern day integeral spring bullet holder?
Magazine is just "a space where ammunition is stored", i.e. a clip is not a magazine because it's only part of the storage system, whereas a *detachable* magazine performs the same functions as an internal magazine, but a clip may be used to fill either.
Magazine were just storehouses originally. Comes from arabic "makhāzin". Then they started to mean store houses for ammunition, then store rooms for ammunition, than store cases for ammunition, then store metal thingies for ammunition. Clips are not called for magazines because they are tools to add ammunition quickly to magazines. See ammo storage were already built into the weapons and they were already called magazines. Then they figured out that the ammo storage could be detached from the gun. So the detachable magazine was born. Fun fact. Detachable magazines are often called clips. Because when soldiers transitioned from clip fed rifles to magazine fed rifles the terminology for distributing ammunition lagged. So they kept saying "give me a clip" even though they meant "give me a magazine". It is shorter which matters when bullets are flying and that was what they were used to. When they went home that is what they told their kids. So today lots of people will call magazines clips. Another fun fact. On social media you will find flocks of people who are especially anal about pointing out that magazines are not clips. Ignore them. They know exactly what you are talking about. They just like being pedantic.
I've honestly thought most gun "inaccuracies" were just relics of the growing pains involved in changes to military tech and doctrine, and popularized by the generations that experienced them. Clips being the standard loading method for most firearms in the early 20th century means a lot of people were going to use it as shorthand for both clips and magazines, transitioning from revolvers to automatics resulting in awkward firing stances (mostly one handing and teacupping), and the eventual adoption of specialized vs standardized small arms requiring a lot of retronyms to differentiate rifles, as opposed to every infantryman being issued a standard "rifle"
We have all gotten rather pedantic of late. I myself have corrected people when they called a detachable box magazine a clip. However, recently I have been going back over some of my old gun magazines and Gun Digests from back in the '60s and I see all sorts of references to magazines as clips, both by manufacturers and gun writers.
When my father explained this to me he used a paperclip and a Popular Science magazine. He put the paperclip in the magazine and said, "Look. You can put a clip in a magazine but you can't put a magazine in a clip."
Wonder why Savage didn't know about this? I have Savage magazines with clip imprinted on them. Also the Savage Model 99 "C", the C was for clip< the detachable magazine. Doesn't bother me either way what they call it. I'll know what they mean.
Othias is a man of his word. He did indeed keep that audio in.
Straight up big clip energy play right there
It’s Othais getting back at Mae for being a stickler with the podcast audio
i mean we wouldn’t know otherwise…
I sorta feel bad for mae.
Can we all just take a moment to appreciate this channel's graphic design.
Starting with the channels logo the garand enbolc Bible to the film reel moon clip for clips to the stopwatch scope reticle of minute of mae to the base of the cartridge used for primer.
Every last one of these is just perfect.
Yeah, I love them, they're great.
Don’t forget the stylized primer anvil for “Anvil.”
@@detritus23 which was a spin off of a series called "primer".
@@GunFunZS Yes, it was actually part of Primer until Mark took it over as his own channel. That is why Bruno is Mark's producer.
As the military and Garand himself said in ww2 ....."A clip is used to feed a magazine and the magazine feeds the gun"
There are VERY few examples where the area a clip is held is not a magazine that feeds the rounds into line for the bolt. Even Garand, Vitali, and Bergmann called their clip holding area that actually advanced and helps feed rounds a magazine when they developed them
@Robert Sears rewatch the video until you unbreak your mind
@Robert Sears no they arent. Not in the least bit. You obviously didnt pay attention. An en bloc for example doesnt do what a mag does. it is a speedloading device mostly. A clip only loads a magazine, the magazine is what holds the clips and feeds the ammo using a follower
@@Shadow0fd3ath24 Half credit.
There are two major kinds of clips as denoted in the video, the "Retaining Clip", ie those retained by the gun generally to act as a round guide/retaining device. While a "Loading Clip", ie those not retained by the gun, are as you stated nothing more than a speed loading device. As such the Moon Clip would be a "Retaining Clip" as they are held within the cylinder until unloaded.
Now, what's the difference? Well an SKS can be loaded to full capacity without a Stripper Clip and will function normally. While an M1 Garand can only be loaded with a single round directly into the chamber without an En Bloc Clip as it does not have a built-in round guide or retaining device itself. Or in other words one is optional, while the other is essential for intended operation. This is also the case for Moon Clips which are almost universally used with rimless ammo that would otherwise not function within your typical revolver.
@Robert Sears He said "rewatch". You should.
So a paper clip is a thing that only holds all the papers together until they're inserted into the bin, but a magazine has all the papers stapled together and the whole thing goes into the bin. Gotcha...
I like this analogy.
Not so much stapled but a mechanism with positive pressure that presents the next page into the copier
Actually a magazine often has 3 staples, a cover, and sometimes a centerfold.
@@b1laxson ah so you are talking about the paper magazine on a printer or copier…. Also a good analogy. 👍🏻
Short, informative, to the point. Shout out to throwing in a couple of variations in there as well. Great job!
"You tattled! Why did you tattle?!" About had me out of breath laughing
"I'm keeping this audio in." "Oh noooooo!"
"Now they're gonna know!"
Yes. Yes we will. We will know the best line came from Mae.
In the German language, you would distinguish between a „Laderahmen“ („loading frame“ = System Mannlicher etc. = left side) and a „Ladestreifen“ („loading strip“ = System Mauser etc. = right side). And a „Magazin“ (magazine), of course.
And once again, German seems to have a word for absolutely everything
@@Odin029 And if it doesn’t, you can always ram 20 or 30 words together to get the right specific meaning. I am looking at you “kraftfahrzeughaftpflichtversicherung.”
@@Odin029 wonder if Germans have a specific word for a wet fart.
@@quint3ssent1a rest assured, they do.
@@quint3ssent1a For some reason the word “scheissewerfer” comes to mind, but it is pure fabrication.
Mae, I liked your joke. Had Othias said that line without the "oh my!" I would have heartily said it for him loudly from the base of my diaphragm.
May's joke and audio gave me my laugh for the day, THANKS!
Omg i had an argument about clips and mags. I would so needed this video
I find Clipozine the correct term 😉
Seems like a silly topic for an argument!
@@rob6850 i know. I had a person who thought that a m1 don't have a magazine cause you put the clip inside the gun. He did not believe me when i googled pictures showing part names
I prefer the universal "clipazine" to throw a wrench in the whole issue.
It was only on the interwebs that I first saw the term 'stripper clip' for things like the item on the left. I'd been reliably informed that those were called 'chargers,' since you used them to charge the magazine. Some old stuff distinguishes 'loading'--putting a round in the chamber for possible firing--from 'charging'--putting a round in the magazine...from whence it might be loaded later.
Only Yanks call them "stripper clips" the rest of the world use the correct terminology.
So for feeding systems I think we can break down as such: Belts, Magazines (1911, Luger, etc...), En bloc (My mind jumped to the term active stripper clip) (Mannlicher, Garand, etc...), and passive stripper clip (Mauser, Mosin, etc...).
Seems to be pretty clear from there.
The original 'en bloc' was patented as the _Mannlicher Packet Loading System._
The Mannlicher Schoenauer used Otto Schoenauer's rotary magazine which could, on the early models, be fed from a 'stripper clip.'
Hoppers too.
@@Horizontalvertigo Rabbits or frogs?
@@-oiiio-3993 Kangaroos mate
Remember, when feeding, also say "here comes the airplane" and make swooshing noises. Works every time.
I approve of Mae being promoted to joke editor.
Best clip yet!!
That ending though lmao, too perfect
No! _Magazines_ are a type colorful printed media. Then you can use scissors to _clip_ parts out of them. No use for springs!
I think you'll find all good _clipboards_ use a spring!
What about the binding of the magazine? Stapples, glue or coil springy thing? ;)
That ending was so cute
Great presentation short and to the point. The last rotary clip was new to me, I am familiar with the Mannlicher Schoenauer and Savage 99 but this is the first removable one I have seen. Always something new to learn.
Loved this video. Plus the bonus audio. 😂
The difference regarding the Hotchkiss clip is, that the Hotchkiss is feeding actively. Meaning the force to present the cartridges comes indirectly from the powder charge. The other guns got feed passively. Meaning the force to present the cartridges does not come from the power of the gun, but from a spring spun before the firing cycle.
"Othias you tattled!" Lmaoooo🤣
Very nice job man! I've been trying to explain this to even people who think they know a lot about firearms over the last 30 Years, yet still Hollywood, the news media, and countless other firearm ignoramuses keep calling magazines clips, thinking the two words are interchangeable, but of course they describe two different devices.
Thanks Mae for putting that joke in there
im glad mae made you make that joke.
im surprised you didnt cover the only high capacity clip i know of; an early gatling gun clip.
The Accles magazine for the Gatling is a circular clip. 🤯
Excellent recounting the difference between the two.
You have reminded me of a forum conversation that I had a while ago (though I'm blanking on some details) in which I had to provide a link to the Wikipedia article on moon clips after I used the term in reference to a revolver, and someone decided that they needed to correct me... to 'magazine.' In a revolver. Yeah. On the bright side, the person took being corrected well, instead of getting angry at me.
Best presentation I have ever seen on this.
I was led to believe that the term stems from a magazine being the compartment in a ship where ammunition was stored. Whether it be powder and shot or shells.
Also called a magazine in a fort or gun emplacement. Storage for blasting materials used in mines are also called magazines.
It literally comes from the French word “magasin” or “store”. Add your favorite descriptor for additional specificity, e.g le magasin de poudre (powder magazine).
I was partly right then.
@@detritus23 "Le magasin à poudre" (dépôt où l'on conserve la poudre à canon...). Sorry for been pedantic... :>0
@@joedeleon1189 Not at all, my French is only slightly less rusty than my Russian, which is practically iron scale at this point.
The "Oh No" at the end killed me 🤣
That wasn't a magazine, that was a spicy pez dispenser.
Othias is the Steven Wright of gun You Tubers. Perfect deadpan delivery. Good on you, Mae, from forcing him to reveal his comedic talent to us all! (Although the It's a Trap vids did that well also.)
I heard that in early documentation, the 1911's magazine was briefly called a clip.
Yes, the transition to detachable magazines, as most transitions go, wasn’t an immediate thing, especially for people who grew up with rifles featuring an internal magazine that could be disassembled, but not removed as part of the standard loading procedure.
As well as all throughout the 1970's & 80's.....
It drives me up the wall when people get this wrong.
It drives me up the wall seeing dozens of comments in person or online directed towards people that get it wrong, from people so proud they have that elementary knowledge.
If a money clip is a clip, does that mean a wallet is a money magazine?
Come on now, Othais was clear in this! In order for something to be a Magazine, it needs a *spring!*
@@diestormlie do you want to live in a world where a money clip with a spring is actually a magazine?
@@Horizontalvertigo *Yes.* I'm neurotic and pedantic.
@@diestormlie I salute your conviction sir
It really feels like my wallet actually has a spring.
Great segment 👏! You had me laughing so hard at the end giving Mae crap.
😂😂😂
You've heard of Clips!
You've heard of Moon Clips!
You've heard of Moon Moon!
Now we have Clips Clips!
Next? Moon Moon Clips Clips!
I wish TH-cam let me like this video a second time for the DVD extra at the end
There's also a hybrid "maga-clip" used by a scarce Brno "Vz24-ish" .22LR training rifle I had in temporal custody for a while. Although missing, it was easy to deduce what it was from the internal parts of the feeding system. Basically it was like any 5-round .22LR magazine that was inserted from below BUT must have looked like a Steyr clip with a floor plate. Once inserted the follower went through its front and you could open the bolt and load it round by round like a normal magazine but already inserted inside the rifle.
Bonus question: Are the Metal storm tubes with superposed loads a clip, a magazine or a catrige?
That revolving cylindrical en bloc thingy is sexy!
The Blake is clearly en bloc clipazylinder fed
Interesting summary, thanks!
I hate it when I see a movie where actors say I need another clip for my gun or something like that. Handguns and morden rifles use magazines not clips. I blame Hollywood for the confusion. Thanks for making this video 👍
Except my father, who served in the infantry in Vietnam, uses both terms, and tells me they frequently used both terms in the jungle.
The only people who get super heated over what you call the thing what has the bullets are sad, pendantic nerds.
@@swj719 ''the thing with bullets" works. There we go that solves the issue
I like the Krags magazine of "just toss some rounds in there and the gun will do the rest"
Most honest title of 2022 yet
Any list of three things should be followed by, "Oh, My!" So well done, indeed. Somehow I picked up this habit many years ago and can scarcely stop. It's potentially a problem- when I get really old people might think I'm nuts...
Hello from France, love your vidéo, and your humour, nice to now you!!!!!!
If you're the competitive overachiever type of personality, you get a Dardick! It has 2 magazines! An internal fixed box magazine, and a cylinder with multiple chambers! 😺 A revolver's cylinder is a form of magazine too. 🤷🏻♂️ The Dardick feeds the trounds (triangle cartridges) out of the box mag into a cylinder chamber where it rotates up into bore alignment and is fired. 😺
Very interesting:
th-cam.com/video/psrZXa2WeQE/w-d-xo.html
A magazine is a spring loaded device that moves ammo, usually into the way of the bolt. A cylinder is not a magazine by definition. If it were.... a lot of 8-10 shot revolvers would be illegal in NY lol
Magazines hold rounds prior to being loaded in a chamber. A cylinder _is_ the chamber.
Should you make a video about clips vs. magazines over the time?
thanks Mae for feeding the dad jokes
Like a dad joke magazine
"Magazines, hoppers, and belts, oh my!"
So many different ways to achieve the same result, it makes this a really interesting part of firearms history.
Notice the cartridges he pushed out of the nice two-tone magazine were 45s ?
A preview of an upcoming episode, perhaps ?
I'm sure it's from a really old gun that no one really remembers or cares about, definitely nothing fundamentally influential
@@jochenreichl796 I think it’s actually a 1905 mag. Look how flat the floorplate is relative to the body
I don’t think it’s the one you’re hoping for…
@@TenaciousTrilobite Joke's on you, I'm looking forward to all of them....😄
@@Ashcrash82 Same! I’m especially excited for the next one
Sneako should watch this
Great stuff, as usual!!!
Ian has long lecture about mags and clips and that have some funky designs.
"Magazine, hoppers and belts! Oh my! : video of country girl Mae meeting three gun-thuasiasts as they travel to the Emerlad Armory Auction.
Always enjoyable. But I think anyone needing help with clips would need help with feed lips.
Is there a difference between a stripper clip and a charger?
Are those terms synonymous? Or do they describe two different "flavours" auf the same thing?
I heard the loading aid for the swiss straight pulls being refered to as chargers more often than as stripper clips, for example.
UK and Commonwealth purists will also insist that the Lee-Enfields are fed with chargers, not stripper clips, as well.
Yall teasing the m1911 again.
I can feel the screaming for more 1911 content from beyond the pond
Any day now. Any. Day. Now.
@@LukeBunyip Lol there are probably at least two or three videos in the Colt auto lineage leading up to it that still have to be made before that episode
...and if you have a Krag Jørgensen you kan use a speed loader, wich is a magazine that dump rounds into the magazine...
My personal favorite is Otto Schoenauer's rotary magazine as used in the Mannlicher Schoenauer which can, on the earlier models, be fed by 'stripper clip',
I do not how many times I have argued this. I do like how you left May whining like a little girl at the end. Gave me a laugh.
Keep up the good work Mae.
I vaguely remember Othais saying something like "We dont have live rounds on the set" in regards to feedback the show received surrounding C&Rsenal's safety practices. Not a Judgement (the last time I shot a rifle was in boy scouts) but I think it would be interesting to see a video about your safety practices on set and on the range. Might get some good karma with the All Powerful Algorithm too.
Hmmm and revolver speed loaders ?
Counterpoint: Everything that is holding a round is a clip. So a loaded gun is a clip as well. At least that's what video games have told me.
Lol, best clips title yet!
Clips feed magazines; magazines feed firearms.
Yep
One question remains .. what is that thing on top of a Lewis Gun?
Pan mag. It’s just actuated by the gun instead of a spring. Same deal with belts and feed strips
Hi there, sorry to bother but anyone can help me to any forum or place where i can find a list of clip fed handguns ? I'm trying to do some research but i can only stumble on the rifles part but not the pistols (except the mauser of course) , anyway thanks for the help .
I'm now kinda curious, why do we call a magazine, a magazine? I know that it has something to do with old cannon ammo storage, but how does that translate to the modern day integeral spring bullet holder?
They both hold ammunition. I doupt that there is more behind it
Military term. Place where ammo stored on a ship for example is called a Magazine.
Magazine is just "a space where ammunition is stored", i.e. a clip is not a magazine because it's only part of the storage system, whereas a *detachable* magazine performs the same functions as an internal magazine, but a clip may be used to fill either.
Its French for store or warehouse. "magasin"
Magazine were just storehouses originally. Comes from arabic "makhāzin". Then they started to mean store houses for ammunition, then store rooms for ammunition, than store cases for ammunition, then store metal thingies for ammunition.
Clips are not called for magazines because they are tools to add ammunition quickly to magazines. See ammo storage were already built into the weapons and they were already called magazines.
Then they figured out that the ammo storage could be detached from the gun. So the detachable magazine was born.
Fun fact. Detachable magazines are often called clips. Because when soldiers transitioned from clip fed rifles to magazine fed rifles the terminology for distributing ammunition lagged. So they kept saying "give me a clip" even though they meant "give me a magazine". It is shorter which matters when bullets are flying and that was what they were used to. When they went home that is what they told their kids. So today lots of people will call magazines clips.
Another fun fact. On social media you will find flocks of people who are especially anal about pointing out that magazines are not clips. Ignore them. They know exactly what you are talking about. They just like being pedantic.
I've honestly thought most gun "inaccuracies" were just relics of the growing pains involved in changes to military tech and doctrine, and popularized by the generations that experienced them. Clips being the standard loading method for most firearms in the early 20th century means a lot of people were going to use it as shorthand for both clips and magazines, transitioning from revolvers to automatics resulting in awkward firing stances (mostly one handing and teacupping), and the eventual adoption of specialized vs standardized small arms requiring a lot of retronyms to differentiate rifles, as opposed to every infantryman being issued a standard "rifle"
Is there a dedicated Blake Rifle video or is that something still to come?
I’m sure they’d love to do a video, but the rifle and ammo are both extremely rare
Brilliant!! Thank you for sharing. LOL.
We have all gotten rather pedantic of late. I myself have corrected people when they called a detachable box magazine a clip. However, recently I have been going back over some of my old gun magazines and Gun Digests from back in the '60s and I see all sorts of references to magazines as clips, both by manufacturers and gun writers.
When my father explained this to me he used a paperclip and a Popular Science magazine. He put the paperclip in the magazine and said, "Look. You can put a clip in a magazine but you can't put a magazine in a clip."
Finaly a good Video i can use too shut up the the "clip and mag are interchangeable guys" i know!
Nice. Now I can refer to this instead of arguing.
> I'll keeping this audio too
What a chad.
👍That was a good One
I wish I could like this twice
Magazines, Hoppers and Belts Oh my... Great joke. I'm stealing that.
And another one pops right up....that's a song by Queen, isn't it?
Listen to her, she knows da way.
Thank you Mae!!
Can we get a video on the Blake one day? PLEASE! It might just be my favorite of the early American experimental repeating rifles.
Forgotten Firearms did one.
here's forgotten weapons video on it th-cam.com/video/VfWGIdDvpK0/w-d-xo.html
I prefer the over-arching term "clip-a-zine".
We are getting meta now.
A Clips, about clipazines. With strippers en blocs. Sounds like an interesting time.
Yup, the first stripper's clip I ever saw was in a magazine 😉
wonderful
Ahem, I squeeze gats 'til my clips is empty
1911 magazine ... You're such teases !!!
Do a video on lee rifle clip.
If you get me some ammo, I’ll get you a video
So what to Call For "Type 92 Japanese HMG" cardboard Clip ? but it not "clip" it use glue.
“Give me some spare clips”
-Max Zorin
Man I’d love to have a build of that Remington model 10 trench gun
Cant wait for the "fuIIauto 30 caliber high capacity clipazine" video
Wonder why Savage didn't know about this? I have Savage magazines with clip imprinted on them. Also the Savage Model 99 "C", the C was for clip< the detachable magazine. Doesn't bother me either way what they call it. I'll know what they mean.