Clips: Spirlet Revolver Breakdown
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This is a quick review of facts or factoids usually taken from our more in depth videos. This particular piece has yet to have its own episode, BUT if you're curious and want to know more about revolvers, we have our Revolver 101 episode which covers a fair number of centerfire military revolvers from the 1870s through the early 1900s.
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Imagine ,all that intricate design work and machining without any CAD CAM. All done on manual machines using basic carbon steel cutting tools...no carbide , no high speed steel .. damned impressive .
And I imagine a lot of hand fitting those parts with files to match those interacting surfaces.
@@VeraTR909 Yes, no doubt. I imagine these had to be meticulously assembled and adjusted individually to work correctly.
@@ifitsfreeitsforme1852 Any one who bought one of these would want to be sure to get one which had been assembled on a Wednesday or a Thursday.
For someone who has fought mainsprings back into revolvers because some jackass didn't know the trick, this is the coolest damn system I have ever seen. It's like an armorer designed this.
exactly. if only my remington new army were this easy.
Normal people are kept up at night by strange noises or past regrets.
Othais is kept up at night by strange holes in weird Belgian revolvers.
Fairly sure the term weird is completely redundant when discussing Belgian revolvers.
🙂a pleonasm
Clever way to talk about non martial firearm outside of main series. Thanks a lot!
I absolutely love this. It feels like an engineer's dare. He created a revolver. Then someone challenged him farther. Then again. And again. It's amazing.
Brilliant! I love these old revolvers from the days when materials were expensive and skilled craftsmen were cheap.
My theory is that the threaded hole is for a tripod mount.
Say cheese!
This is my favourite type of breakdown video: Come for the weirdness, stay for the clever little details.
i am loving all this shorter content so i can still get my knowlage fix when i dont have the time for a full primer episode
I really like that design; the numbered dis/re-assembly feature is especially kind.
Which calibre?
How does Mae shoot it?
etc.
thank you -- I'm so glad that I have found this channel (about 6 months ago?).
The info I've found online suggests they are 450 bore.
Is that hole on the grip big enough for an oiler, seeing as the rest of the gun is setup so nicely for maintenance?
That does seem like it would not only make sense to include, it would fit in with thought set behind the very cool disassembly mechanics.
Came here to say oiler, too.
Hole seems too small. If anything it looks like it might be part of some sort of bench mounting assembly, otherwise there'd be no need for it to be so deep, or maybe even a semi-permanent stock.
Maybe, but I don't see why it would be threaded all the way to the bottom (if I understood correctly) if it's for an oiler.
The grip hole is 100% for a buttstock, though none were ever actually produced commercially for the gun. I imagine it was more of a "whatever the end-user wants it to be" accessory hole. Having the hole would only be marginally more expensive than not having the hole, and the gun already had a lot of very "premium" features for what it was, so I suspect they didn't see a reason to remove the hole from the production flow.
My father was a native of Ogden, Utah. While yet a teenager he was an accomplished precision machinist in a shop that worked primarily in automotive but did some of everything including occasional work on Browning prototypes. Dad lived to be over 100 and had an insatiable interests in technology, engineering and science as well as the humanities. Though not into guns, he would have loved this video. Thank you.
Looking forward to the next C&Rsenal series: Magazine
Clever
Oooo, written publication, cool.
Maybe we get some united C&R society called "en bloc". :-D
Maybe an interwar sereees "aramstice"
@@davitdavid7165 Until such time again as, "War Were Declared".
The pistol is tipped to the left, left index across onto the break release, left pinky/ring on the plunger and will kick the spent off to the side. The second threaded hole is for the saddle holster's lanyard, easier to screw and unscrew than to tie an additional lanyard to the lanyard ring and risk cutting both. Once the gun is empty you can collect the cartridges from your left hand sliding them in with a shucking motion of the open gun then flick it shut again.
Looks like the inspiration for the Hill's Patent revolver which are quite common here in Australia and load the same way except they have automatic extraction.
It's a bit surprising that this gun doesn't have automatic extraction, it has so many other features. Or had that not been invented yet by anyone?
A lot of features to make this revolver more user friendly. They really seemed to think about ways of making this revolver easier for the end user to use.
I like the side plate hinging out ... thats cool
This awesome . Shorter format with all the relevant information. That gun seems odd at first look , but as you look deeper you can see some serious thought went into the design. The numbered parts is a nice touch.
Very nice! I like how the safety sear is held by the trigger, therefore not needing a fly.
I wanna see Mae review it!
You know, handeling, poitabillity, comfartableness, useability for protection of life and personal freedom etc etc, all of the essentials that is.
Great thanks.
as a black powder shooter, that thing is absolutely brilliant. that takedown is so incredible.
The reloading process makes perfect sense to me.
That's a very cool revolver, any chance of seeing May shoot it?
I enjoyed this! I have trouble with the time for the long videos. I love them but have had to skip several.
God bless all here.
I am blown away by the engineering behind that.
That cam function at the top for the hammer is so simplistically clever.
It looks like someone moved the lanyard loop back by drilling a hole and using a bolt to retain the lanyard loop, probably because the loop got in the way, or it could be for the disassembly tool found on other examples
An advantage with the bottom break loading revolvers is that there is more meat to the bottom frame than there is on the top strap. This would probably make it not loose timing like a top break with a bent top strap.
My favorite part is how you go to reload, and the cylinder is pointed the other way so you can't see it, and the barrel is pointed at your face.
Then again if you cook your off-hand on the hot barrel during the reload, you can reload with your dominant hand. In a parallel universe, this dominated the market and the saying is "you better hit them in 12 shots or you'll cook your fingers!"
That’s going to get hot holding onto the barrel like that during the reload.
Could the threaded hole be for a screw driver to get the grips off since it’s the only place you need a tool.
You wouldn’t be firing it enough or fast enough on a commercial piece
I think Othias only removed the grips to show the mechanism for removing the spring tension, you wouldn't need to remove the grips to disassemble the lock works.
@@tda2806 -- Someone thought it could be for an something to oil the internals with, maybe a screw with a tiny rod attached and some oil in the hole, that seems to fit in nicely with the thought set behind the disassembly mechanisms.
No, this wouldn't get very hot. Its a relatively small [read: weak] cartridge, its nothing like the heat off a modern magnum or even .38 special.
@@thesmallestminorityisthein4045 It is however, a black powder cartridge, which will put off more heat than you would expect. Loading would likely have been an administrative task anyway, not something expected to be done without plenty of time to let the barrel cool between reloading.
The amount of 3000 IQ engineering in this gun is mind-boggling
Nice video. It is just amazing the level of machine work the artisans of that era were capable of.
Labeled in a way that expects the user to disassemble it, rather then putting in a manual “take to a gunsmith”. I like it.
Guys. I'm loving these videos. This gun was neat. Keep up the good work.
Ian cant Othias, but Othias can Ian
I had that exact same thought
@@FeedMeMister great. Now Othias will wear skinny jeans and wear vintage Fredrick's of Hollywood wigs while describing the stupidity of every movie gun from 1979 til now.. while changing wigs!
Wait.. I'd watch that.. ;-)
From the patent drawing, it sure looks like an oiler screwed into the hole. A three minute search for Spirlet revolver 1869 found the the drawing.
I did some looking around for Spirlet patents and found that on many clones of the Spirlet that hole was for a disassembly tool. I have only found one Spirlet patent drawing which does have the hole and a drawing of something in that hole but it isn't immediately clear what purpose it would serve; and is not marked with a call out for what it would be used for. However my estimation is that it would also serve as some form of disassembly tool, or possibly some form of cleaning instrument.
That's a very elegant system.
What a fabulous design! I'd fiddle with this thing for hours!
A very neat old gun. I love the clever takedown and all the thought that was put into making the springs behave.
Said no customer ever: I need a complicated revolver that works the opposite of a Webley and S&W .44.
Belgian: Yes.
Customer: Cool. I didn't until now realized how much I wanted this.
The numbered parts are amazing!
Wow that is a very special wheel gun indeed! someone clearly wanted it very handing for servicing! Also glad to see you have come to your sense and are using the Patented Plastic Pokey once again! Also looking forward (somewhat) patiently for the next chapter of Reprocussion. Best wishes to everyone at C&Rsenal
This was great! Loving this new format. Glad to see you're willing to cover things that take more than just 2 or 3 minutes with this series. I've always heard that 10 minutes is the minimum length for a video to be monetized and this falls just barely short of that. Just something to consider! Can't wait for more of these.
So nice of them to number the pieces in order of disassembly! Never heard of something similar!
It's fairly common in Euro revolvers of that period. Swiss M82 for instance.
@@BlokeontheRange Ooh, then I saw it before and didn't realise it! Pay more attention next time...
Other Channels Clips: 2-3 mins and then there is C&Rsenal almost 10 mins. Anyway keep being you Othais and Mae.
That's one of the most serviceable pieces of equipment I've ever seen, a very nice design that could be fully cleaned, inspected and oiled with around 1 paragraph's worth of instruction and no tools whatsoever, I'll bet that hole's for an oiler, too. seems to fit the design theme, and it'd be the sort of thing that would get lost almost immediately! I think you should make one to go in there anyway, it would drive you less insane know that you were using it for at least one of it's possible purposes!
Thanks for showing all of us gun/history buffs another blast from the past.
The number disassembly/assembly is fascinating.
I believe I recall Forgotten Weapons showing a French revolver of similar vintage having that same thing, disassembly by numbers.
This is actually smart on many levels. It's safe, it's easy to inspect, dissassemble and assamble and fairly fast to reload. Manifacture might be a bit more expensive then your average revolver but not by a huge margin.
And here I thought Client Eastwood's self-cocking trigger Starr 1858 Army from Unforgiven was one of the more peculiar revolvers I've seen.
That's pretty cool, especially the spring detensioner and the numbering system. I have to wonder if the locking mechanism was up to the task for more powerful cartridges as time progressed though. Maybe the ease of disassembly was unpopular with gun sellers who probably also repaired guns?
I think you are spot on about a shoulder stock
Really really good episode. So well described, nice job!!!
I’m used to you showing bottom-hinge break top revolvers. Would this design favor “wrong handed” 🙂 shooters like Ian M.?
It would not.
t. I'm left-handed
Why would it, both designs are horizontally symmetrical more or less
I guess any design that doesn't swing out the cylinder to one side is more lefty friendly. If one would grab the front with the right hand, the left would stay on the handle until it's open and would do the rest of the reloading.
This is more ambidextrous than a webley-fosbery having the hinge-lever on one side of the hammer.
it almost seems like a show piece like, the screw is to put the gun on display with all the bits exposed and numbered for a salesman/presenter to show the inner workings and the spring de-tensioning tab so he can remove pieces or let people touch it without hurting themselves.
My guess is the hole's for an oiler or small screwdriver, but who knows. I'm just happy to see a weird ol' wheelgun!
Othias I suggest a use for that strange hole at the bottom. Given the presence of that disassembly button and the numbering of parts and such, perhaps that hole was for mounting it in a jig to disassemble it while upright. Perhaps that particular gun was some kind of training aid for...gunsmiths, factory technicians, cadets in anticipation of an unlikely military adoption?
Could even have been a display model, intended to be bolted down to the table top while still upright so potential customers could get a grip on it without possibly "accidentally" walking out after they "mistakenly" dropped it into their pocket. But I like your idea of training, as it would explain all the numbered parts and their corresponding pins.
It's little details like that threaded hole that probably have a story all their own - if only we knew what it was. :-)
@@aussiebloke609 yeah, that was kinda what was getting at. Entirely speculation as to how they marketed guns in that time period, but I do believe I have see odd display guns pop up on occasion
very cool design thanks for presenting it to us Othias
I love this. I enjoy the strings at the start and the end.
Oooo... some very neat features. At first I thought I would be looking at basically just another revolver, but I quickly transitioned to a series of "Really?". Interesting.
Brilliant, a little over thought, but brilliant.
Only issue about the way you demonstrate the unload/reload, is , if fired enough the barrel would be a little warm to hold .
Still not as wierd as late 1800-early 1900s experimental norwengian handguns
Awesome revolver, they really thought of everything
That is amazing I literally shouted out "woah" when you opened up the gun
That screw hole next to laniard loop is probably used for mashining fixtures.
Thank you for all your Research into interesting guns
That hole in the bottom of firearm would give you an option to attach revolver to some kind of table, witch would also explain the upwards opening of firearm. Don't know really, but that might be the case.
Maybe that mystery hole was for a catch to hold the lanyard ring down when not in use to keep it from rattling
That is a very cool gun. Amazing design.
For an 1870 design, this revolver is ahead of its time... other than the break-open frame, this design gives most modern revolvers a real challenge... and a break-open frame is not a horrible design, given that Webley retained such into the 1950s.
The mechanical engineer in me really likes the features
What a fascinating piece.
I really like this idea, it would be great if this could be a regular series. The sub 10 min runtime is fantastic
You can't Othais.
Enjoying the occasional break from martial firearms to look at the lesser known weapons of the era!
Eyyy, its a new clip episode! Nice!
What a cool revolver, nice short I’v never seen on of these
I'm sure that the collection behind Othias are breeding, there always seem to be more of them.
There's a wild weapons orgy every Saturday night when the lights go out.
If they are breeding, which two do you most hope will crossbreed?
@@AdamHarrisonEros a Chauchat and T-Gewehr.
@@tenofprime Found the masochist!
Great video, thanks. Good to see the Patented Plastic Pokey again.
The threaded hole is probably for a maintenance pin that comes with it. You can see similar pins in some British models
The threaded hole is for attaching a red dot
Genuinely one of the more interesting revolvers I've seen
Fascinating revolver! The designer was clearly ahead of his time.
Wow great for us old men with shot attention span! Thanks
Wow what a cool design!
Excellent short video for my short attention span.
Quite a brilliant design for the time period.
I like your short little videos. Still full of great stuff but short.
That is delightful. Do you know anything about who may have been involved in the design or where the mechanisms came from? There are like 8 unique mechanisms in that thing that should've been patented.
The good idea fairy with actual good ideas. Very inspired design that. Somebody call Pietta and suggest this to them.
This is quite user friendly.
An example for current designs.
Very interesting design for sure
You bring the coolest stuff. 😎
I appreciate the short video.👍
Excellent video! Thank You for presenting this very interesting revolver, I had no known yet, I would have enjoyed even more, if there were some infos about the specifics and history of this gun.
I see you're flexing your Siamese Type 66 in the background. Nice!
Maybe that mystery threaded hole was here to store some kind of small tool for di
sasembly or maintenance?
That´s really funky. I love it.
Woah wish some things would get that kind of invetion today. Feels like we stood still for Centuries.
"Not as insane as it seems..." solid.
Ooh, Clips. Yes, I like this format, Kinda like forgotten weapons but with more luxuriant facial hair.