The fact young people are priced out of home ownership, in a way never experienced by the previous generations, has such a damaging effect on their outlook of life. When you are priced out of having a family, and a future, it's little wonder why materialistic nihilism fills the void.
Hope is the cruelest form of deception. All many know in the west. Society is obseesed with homes, entertainment, cars, things on and on and nothing inside to show how to BECOME A HUMAN.
Parents: have the most amount of time to spend with their kid, also parents: biologically have the most control and influence on their kid, also parents: turn into the shocked pikachu meme when their kids turn out bad 😂😂😂😂
nah its just the insufferables the rest arent as loud, and internet gives them a platform, i never see it only in group settings and everyone just ignores them
@@AndrewSullivan-d3x I agree it's not everyone but id actually prefer if they were doing it out loud instead of secretly inviting desperate immigrants in to replace their own children's jobs.
I'm 28yrs old, college degree (loans paid off) and working 60hrs a week as a fiber optics technician and part time on the weekends as a firearms instructor at my local range. I get ghosted by girls my age because I'd rather go to dinner than sleep with them (true story). Can't figure out how I'll ever afford to own where I live, a reliable car to get to work in the snow or how to retire in 30-40 years. Instead of blaming "they," or accepting "them" saying my generation is lazy and doesn't want to work, I get up and go to the gym in the morning, read books at night and build people up around me struggling with the same problems. The truth is, I'm exhausted and sick of the older generations blaming us for the mess we are inheriting. Future looks bleak but I'm doing my best day in and day out. Really glad Jocko addressed this. Anybody else relating to this, please stay strong. Hard times create strong men.
-My parents bought my childhood home in 1996 for $110k. Adjusted for inflation, that’s $224k. That home is currently valued at $485k on Zillow. -I work almost the exact same job that my dad did back in the 90s (web development). Adjusted for inflation, I earn roughly 1/3 what he did. -almost everyone in my parents generation payed their way through college with minimum wage summer jobs. Almost every one of my peers worked all through college, and still graduated with massive debt. Life is objectively much, much harder for millennials and Gen Z than it was for earlier generations. That’s not an opinion, it’s a fact that is consistently supported by real world data. The older generations can spew their ignorant negative options about the younger generations, but the facts don’t lie.
I was a big believer in hustle culture (and still act like it, I'd argue), but learning macroeconomics and reading charts that align exactly with what you're saying was a huge wake-up call for me that many issues are systemic and only getting worse. Aggregate data really doesn't lie. Anecdotes might not lie, either, but they can be misleading (and people often take their personal situation as gospel)... but that said, some of the hardest working and smartest people I know have struggled the most in recent years.
I read this quote from an American writer named Henry David Thoreau, this feels very topical, “One may almost doubt if the wisest man has learned anything of absolute value by living. Practically, the old have no very important advice to give the young, their own experience has been so partial, and their lives have been such miserable failures, for private reasons, as they must believe; and it may be that they have some faith left which belies that experience, and they are only less young than they were. I have lived some thirty years on this planet, and I have yet to hear the first syllable of valuable or even earnest advice from my seniors. They have told me nothing, and probably cannot tell me anything to the purpose. Here is life, an experiment to a great extent untried by me; but it does not avail me that they have tried it. If I have any experience which I think valuable, I am sure to reflect that this my Mentors said nothing about.” - Henry David Thoreau, “Economy,” Walden Fun fact, this writer died at the age of 45, the book Walden, is named after a pond Henry built a cabin next to, it was land owned by his friend Ralph Waldo Emerson, the book follows his thoughts on varying subjects as he experimentally lives in the cabin for 2 years, 2 months, and 2 days, he started the experiment at 27 years old in 1845.
I work 80-120 hours a week. I refuse to live in poverty. Don't look at what I own and say I cheated. Everyone wants something, but not always willing to pay the price.
Older generations, who are leading the country and workforce, should embrace being responsible for their mistakes. Here in Italy companies blame they cannot find blue collar skilled workers because "everybody went to university" except it's a lie. The old generation keep their knowledge to themselves because they strongly believe that teaching youngsters is creating a new competitor and that one would "steal their job", so companies (who do not want to train people) suffer of generational change in the workforce Also I heard from old people in their 70s, 80s conversations that can be resumed like this: they are glad they are old, that they do not have much to live because if they were young they would not know how to survive this era.
Here in America, take the same attitude. They don't want to train the new guy because they know he's their replacement. And most of our older folks don't have guaranteed pensions. They have these scams called 401ks that gain or lose money based on the stock market. They can't afford to retire or be retired by force.
@@Straight_White_Fatherly_Figure Yeah to scale their own social/economic class, from poor class to middle-middle-higher class. So to be "white collar", guess who is destroying the nation? their sons and daughters.
It's true to a degree I don't think it's as big as people think. Most of those guys in blue collar roles want to get paid tk train the new guy and they don't so why should they. Everything is is way more expensive per dollar purchasing power than it used to be so new guys only slow down the heavy hitter workers making money per job instead of per hour.
Great podcast. As a true boomer (age 73) I’m glad to have the opportunity to meet and share experiences with Zs and millennials. Zs have fresh ideas and long for kind wisdom, millennials are realizing that they are more responsible than they imagined. Both groups are stepping up and as a FOG I love that. They are not the future, they are the present, and are present.
That’s the way it should be. My grandparents hold the same gleefulness as you and it’s definitely refreshing to hear in this day and age. It seems to be the exception nowadays tho as more members of the older generations who are business/government leaders are poised to kick the ladder out from under them out of pettiness, spite, envy or even pure negligence, blocking the newer generations from being able to take up that mantle and responsibilities they know they have to take. It creates a butterfly effect where the newer generations are being taught to not care, to be selfish, to only look out for themselves. By the time the dust settles its going to be really hard to pickup the pieces. Social Media doesn’t help either with how ‘Me, myself and I’ focused it is, but I attribute it more as a mirror than the pure sole cause.
How about Gen Xers Who's contribution is blaming other generations for their woes on the internet, whilst accusing all other generations of having no accountability or self-reliance lmao
This badly needed saying. I’m in my mid 40’s and I teach young adults and many of them are wayyy more clued in and savvy than many of us were 20+ years ago. It’s too easy to label younger people in this way. Are they annoying or unfocussed at times? Of course, but so was anyone in the entire history of humanity at 19 or 20 years of age.
I'm mid 40's as well. My genz employees are great. They just want know what they're doing matters. They're alright putting in the work, but they want to know it will lead to something. They're simply not willing to endlessly do all the crap just because a boomer said that's the way life works. Life is really expensive and a lot of these kids graduate college with an immediate house payment sized bill called a student loan payment. They don't have the ability to work for 10 years for 30K a year while they "pay their dues."
I'd argue most young people would focus if there was something to focus on, I mean they have almost the entire sum total of human knowledge in their pockets, it's the fact that no opportunities exist to capitalize on, I mean in the 90s kids and teens wanted to be firefighters, construction workers and astronauts, but now they want to be influencers, not because they're lazy but that influencers are the only ones that seem to be doing well, blue collar workers are under paid and over worked now more than ever and astronauts pretty much don't exist, and young people see that and it affect their motivation, I mean would you go for an apprenticeship after hearing 14 hour a day weeks at 8 hours a day pay? I know I wouldn't
@@keats182 I think one of the issues is that they are almost too aware. Sometimes ignorance is bliss but these modern kids are basically born cynical in many ways. Maybe cynical isn’t the right word but take education for example, their goal in the classroom isn’t to learn stuff often, it’s more to figure out what’s going to be on the exam. They’re constantly trying to `hack’ the system which is completely understandable, but you would wonder if it is completely beneficial in the long run. So much of life actually doesn’t have a deeper meaning, things can be menial by their nature, but that doesn’t mean they have to necessarily be negative.
As a millennial, I want to work. I want to prove myself. At my current job of 4 years, I spent the first 2 years trying to learn everything I could and being as helpful as possible. I was also severely underpaid for what I did, but in hindsight that's partially my fault for not putting my foot down and making them give me a higher starting pay since they were desperate at the time. 2 years go by, they give me a pay raise based on "surrounding businesses with similar titles". Another 2 years have gone by and I have been told there will not be any pay raises for X, Y and Z which everyone knows simply aren't true. Hard work is not respected anymore. When I try to do the right thing or fix problems at work, I am met with resistance and apathy from my bosses, there just isn't a reason to try anymore.
Not all businesses are the same and many still value hard work friend. Just gotta use your off time to find a better job. It's much easier to get a new one when youre still employed
No offense, but this is a you problem - if your skills are worth more than you’re currently being paid, take your skills onto the open job market and see if another company will offer more for those skills
@blairl6304 your 1st sentence is unfortunately offensive for 2 reasons. 1: More and more bosses/companies are not valuing hard work. So, it is more difficult to find a company actually will value your input and effort. 2: Finding a job is very difficult, and for some, not feasible. We know many people are struggling to find work and it's not exactly going to get easier in the near future. Some people are geographically stuck and moving may not be an option. I'm not saying don't look for better work, but to say "That's a you problem" does not take into account the difficulties are in entailed. There may be a solid reason not to go out into the job market at that time.
I struggle with this. We have a bad shortage in my trade and we are underpaid. I regularly hear "young people don't want to work" while they lose employees who look for better incomes
I had some boomer at my old job saying nobody wants to work but the only jobs in the factory were back breaking jobs nobody else wanted.. plus it was only 4-8 hours a night and he said “nobody wants to work” when the job was only 20$ an hour and rent is extremely high in that area.. tired of these ignorant clowns
Just really a lack of mentorship, especially for young men. A lot of society just thinks that other people should be raising their kids instead of themselves. People aren't being responsible for their kids and it is incrementally having negative repercussions on a societal level with each passing year. Not to mention divorce rates and an overall lack of family unity.
@@evaescrihuela1162 In the 80s you could get a job and pay off a house before 2008. Now people under the age of 35 just won't ever be able to own a home unless they leave the cities and live in the sticks where there are no services...
people aren't being responsible for kids period, I mean how many young men would benefit from a mentor at work? almost all of them I'd bet but no mentors exist, period
@Rexhunterj OP said mentorship is lacking today, which is true. I paid off my $150k house last year in 4 years at 35 yrs old, because I listened to elders on living below our means, not acting rich. 1980s or 2020s, everyone needs mentorship and can make it happen.
@@jimmay1988the median home price is $425,000. You didn't manage to pay it off by "living below your means," you managed to get extremely lucky with finding a home priced like that (or are living in a very undesirable area)
Thank you, Jocko! I've been working hard lately to break the habit of complaining and blaming. Instead, when challenges come my way, I'm training myself to say, "Good."
@@gleadr6869I no longer have any friends but a few family members but I'm feeling less miserable. Keep up the good work, we will find our real friends if we don't stray from the way.
I'll be 40 in a few months. I've always worked 80-100 hours a week in the oilfield since I was 18, the last 5 years I started going to the boxing gym, to the yoga studio, and am active in the community. Work life balance is very important to me. Life is better than ever, even with less money....
Ok your post was really confusing. You said 80-100 hrs a week then you said work life balance and suggested cutting back at the end. So which one is it?
@@PolishBehemoth yeah... Last few years I have not been working 80-100 hours. Really hard to have any kind of life working like that. Pretty much work, eat shower, get a couple hours of sleep n back at it
@@garywhite3209call cap on working 80-100 hours a week unless you’re some dude that stands around watching everyone else work /supervisor or higher management. No way you’re doing back breaking labor for 80-100 hours a week
I live in rural farm country in Michigan and work at a massive food processing facility. Management always whines about how my generation "doesn't want to work". All our factories are 95% Mexicans now. My hometown has become unrecognizable in ~10 years. So basically the children of the front office employees don't want to pick asparagus with 20 migrant workers who can't speak a lick of English, therefore they are lazy and entitled (but we were told we HAD to go to college by our parents).
This is why I think “The Dichotomy of Leadership” was the superior work. It offered some much needed nuance. In my experience “They” are often those coming into the workforce from a specific education and they are not only completely unprepared they are unmanageable. Leaders do not have the time/resources to offer a full education and teach employees how to be a decent human being/ co worker. The education system and culture has failed.
I’m solid GenX. I wish I had quit jobs sooner when I was younger, rather than “toughing it out”. Just wasted time with the same outcome. Young people SHOULD “question everything”. The biggest reason being- you’ve mostly been lied to or ill-advised your entire lives. So I understand the youth perspective on those parts. They should be teachable in their areas of ignorance- and those are many when you’re young… IF the knowledge you’re getting is good. Bunch of kids raised by single moms, women school teachers, and now female bosses and people wonder why things are falling apart.
A millenial joke; "How can you tell if someone is Gen X?" "Oh, don't worry... THEY will let YOU know ALL ABOUT IT!" 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
100% when you are being conned and exploited "just trust me and do what i say" is insidious advice. I too spent far too much time working hard and giving loyalty where it was not reciprocated. One of my biggest pieces of advice: *go where they value you* Bible verse: "give Honor where honor is due"... An application of that: If they are behaving dishonorably, you should honor someone else who isn't lying about your value
As a high school special ed teacher… I rely on Jocko to guide me when I’m working with a difficult student. As a matter of fact I keep a 3x5 card with “Extreme Ownership” taped to my computer monitor.
The fact younger people want "work life balance," and it is somehow an issue even though we supposedly live in a free country is insane. I'm a millennial, had a boomer tell me yesterday I'm not doing well because of video games. I kindly pointed out were both truck drivers for the same company and I have been here 12 years doing the exact same job...
Americans already work the most hours, have the least vacation, least benefits, and have no healthcare system. Our education is also the most expensive by many MULTIPLES. The game is rigged. At the same time the country is being flooded by illegal AND legal immigrants because companies lobby (bribe) the government saying they can’t hire workers for the job - what they’re really doing is DRIVING DOWN the cost of labor drastically.
@scottf5791 I have 2 kids and every boomer calls me a kid, still. My neighbor across the street is old and retired. He tells me "I enjoy watching this kid (me) raise a family across the street." He puts me down in a context of being below him in EVERYTHING. The last time we spoke I snapped. He was degrading every aspect of my life like I was just complaining. So i asked how much his house cost. 20k. I told him I paid 200k to be across the street, and our homes being 400k to 600k was actually really really bad. He tried telling me inflation has kept up and asked if he has ever, EVER done the real number on inflation. He needed a long pause for that one... it was a "no." I made it clear the reason all of his sons don't have homes or family's but I do, is because I beat the odds and got lucky. Economic problems and wondering where the next meal comes from, isn't an attitude problem like boomers would have us think. Making formula at home wasn't exactly easy. I take extreme ownership BECAUSE I understand the issues.
Absolutely great podcast excerpt done here. The only issue with others people have is how they interact and react to other’s actions and the situations brought about from outside forces beyond their control. Which also bring up the main source of the problem of people wanting to control other people. You can actively engage and express yourself fully and understandably to others but that is not a means to “control” others. The true cohesive formula is to influence others to do what you feel is best in the situations you face with them and to prevent any issues they may bring up that you may see as an issue. However the issues vary and factor upon many different outlooks, perspectives, actions, pros and cons, etc. etc. Be that as it may, ensure the issue also isn’t yourself and you are not creating issues upon others as people can be influenced for better or worse. It just depends on what is seen as right or wrong from the one influencing their control upon another person/persons
Agreed. We didn't hear them in this podcast, but Jocko did state several times that there are limitations to the application of this principle. Being overpowered/dominated is an exception (assuming one wasn't recklessly flirting with danger).
Sometimes people with different personalities clash from different generations. My issue with older generations is that it's always "their way or the highway" which is so selfish and shallow. But I stopped caring and am better for it
This is pretty simple to look at data wise; the problem is pretty much in the fact that worker productivity has skyrocketed for generations but wages have stagnated for generations while prices for everything have continued to rise. Like Jocko says bad leaders blamed the “Draftees” and good leaders have stepped up and lead, and who are the “leaders” that could have stepped up? Billionaires and the politicians that rig our system for them. That’s where your angst should be aimed at, not at the people (millennials/Gen Z) that are subjected to the system that politicians have lead us into.
Gen Z has had to deal with something the previous generations didn’t. Being a young adult in this country today leaves you feeling helpless. They’ve made it extremely difficult to be able to afford even the most basic living space. Then if you’re able to somehow afford it, you’re spending 50%-60% maybe even 70% of your income on housing. How is anybody supposed to feel like they can improve their position when staying afloat is such a challenge. I’ve learned that a lot of Millennials and Gen Z’ers can’t stick to a job because they’re trying to make enough to survive and 90% of jobs you find nowadays do not pay enough to make a living.
Sad but true. They have to learn how to live like poor people , Like a lot of us had to. for instance, move to the trailer park on the rough side of town If they have to. watch TV with an antenna ,shop at second hand stores. drive beat up cars , eat bags of potatoes and beans & tortillas
Following these principles over the last few years has removed so much stress in my life. Understanding then accepting ownership/responsibility means I have the control to change the situation, no more impotent rage, but a pathway to change. Get his books (I recommend the audio books since he reads them)
Listening to Jockos view on big Topics makes sleep way better at night. Maybe because his views make me feel as if I can have an influence on my own and everybody's future, instead of being on the receiving end of everything that's happens in the world. Thank you for that.
Our parents generation betrayed us. It's time we aknowledge the truth and reject everything our parents generation did. They did not hand down traditions, culture, values, patriotism., dignity, morals. They only lived for themselves and now we suffer. May we never recreate their misstakes and let's instead build a bright future for the next generation.
Yep. Parents told us what not to do to make their life easier. Never what needs to be done to be successful. They were tearing apart family because they wanted to do their own thing. Now that we know this, it's time to be the leaders. We can fix society 1 family at a time. We need to build communities of like-minded people who put family first instead of the individual. Good luck out there, brother.
Who wants to work hard when the job youre supposed to do is barely paying for rent while your supervisor is earning twice what your entire team makes. Why would anyone want to be loyal to a company like that.
Thata not the point i was trying to make. 50 years ago your boss was making a far more reasonable amount of money and so did you. It was possible to buy a house and support a family with most jobs. Nowadays youre lucky if your job leaves you with some money for the next month and buying a home is basically impossible. The only way to get a high paying job is through nepotism. Even with College education its hard to get a job even in STEM fields.
Make yourself marketable. Have a skill set that most don't want or know how to do. I didn't graduate from college. Got a job as an apprentice after the military and worked my way up from there. Have to know how to budget and not be self indulged in the beginning.
I homeschool. My kids are welcome everywhere and have the choice to walk away from abusive bosses/leadership. And they do. This happens because I am the leader that taught them to be excellent and to walk away.
I truly think with AI and the ability to rapidly research in general gives this younger generation the same level of awareness at 18 years that took a lifetime for disillusioned people about to retire that they should have spent more time w/family etc…but that is honestly too bad….because now many of this young generation are taking a nihilistic attitude at such a young age that it will ruin their life before it ever gets started, no ambition etc…the internet is the ultimate poison pill and is destroying our countries prosperity. Jocko is right in that we need some level 10 leadership to turn this ship around
Ever since I discovered your concept of Extreme Ownership, it has completely changed my life and how I see the world. I catch myself every time I start to make excuses and fail to take responsibility for my life. And it is very fascinating how It has allowed me to see when other people fail to take ownership in their lives. I usually don't say anything, and I see it as an opportunity to set the example by taking ownership. And other people will try to convince me that something isn't my fault or that I'm a victim. I refuse to listen to that, and I will tell them that I am taking responsibility for this and I refuse to be a victim. I will work on changing myself and do everything I can to make the situation better and to do better in the future.
I always find it funny when people (including myself) judge Gen Z and Gen Alpha for the slang they use, saying "these kids don't know how to talk" or something, it's funny to me because I'm sure generations before me said the same thing about us! How can I judge someone else for something I did?
I’m in my early 30’s (millennial) and I get along with the boomers more than I get along with Gen Z. I try to be an example to the younger men in my work place but a lot of times it seems as if they think they just know too much too learn from me, so I let them be and wait till they have no choice but to ask for help. I don’t blame them for acting like that, they did grow up with Google.
I'm 50 and after 4 years of remote work, any future position needs to include remote work. I will not be working in the office ever again. Especially now in the feminised, toxic environment.
My lord that last part about the full episode. No.2 ... my office if FULL of these types of people, it takes all my willpower not to let the boss know i'm heading out for the day. The arguments that go on daily is insane. I put headphones in have some music going and try and do some work / ignore them.
This is probably one of the most important messages to date jocko. The millennial generation is supposed to be the crisis generation. What was the other generation that was a crisis generation? The silent generation!!!! What’s the difference between these two generations? The leadership. The generation of our grandparents had strong leaders, whereas we the millennial generation have very weak leaders that further help us fill the purposeless void with (stolen from different comment) materialistic nihilism.
They learned from the best... look at hollywood and politics, almost everyone in those theaters are over the age of 40-50, GenX and Boomers. If the generations that come before are spineless, sinful and disgusting, the generations that come will be broken.
Gen Z brought in Remote work and work-life balance, as a 40yr old; its now in my favor to work less and enjoy my life. My managers realize all the new hires are lacking and appreciates me training, if they want to listen.
Thisvideo almost made me cry not gonna lie. Thank you jocko for maing these points. Im 29 and have tried to explain to older people who look down on me why my outlook is the way it is. Everything you said is what uve bee rying to convey but it just goes in one ear and out the other. Still staying strong though, im exercising, learning martial arts and learning spanish. Much love man
If the older generation frowns on the younger generation, I’d wanna ask them……. Why are 90% of your children growing up in single mommy homes and the man has zero damn influence on his children.
There are news articles dating back to the 1800's talking about the new generation not wanting to work through decades. This isn't a new concept. I was stuck at the tire shop and struck up a conversation with a Gen X lady also waiting. I'm a millennial myself and she brought up this concept. I took a gamble and responded with: "Is it that they don't want to work, or they are miserable at that job and seek a better opportunity? Why sink decades into a miserable company that will drop you in a heartbeat to save money?" I then referenced many people I had worked with that were close to retirement and let go bc they were so close. She honestly responded she hadn't thought of it that way.
There are some dynamics that are out of control, specially for youngsters. In many (specially eu countries), older outvote the younger. Those countries have public pensions, meaning pensions are paid out of taxes. Older gens are pushing for higher pensions, and youngster see an increased burden on taxes, while still cant pay rent, for the older to live comfortably in their paid off homes and going out every day to have lunch or dinner out. This is not the "them" thing, is coaction: "pay my retirement or go to jail for tax fraud". Its demotivating for youngsters to work and push themselves just to see how they cant progress economically in stagnated countries that subsidize the older. In the work env, genZ are different, but not bad. I dont see the point of my junior working late, they wont be fresh and will burn out. I dont see the point of coming everyday to the office, but a couple days a week instead, mainly for networking. And I love how new gens are so built into chatGpt or other tools, so productive. I love how they challenge every command, they need to understand the "why", if i am unable to explain why we are doing something, maybe we shouldnt. Every person and every gen is different, getting the best out of anyone is the duty of a leader.
This extreme ownership only works in military, maybe sports. In the corporate world what do you own ?! - Nothing, you are pawn in the game surrounded not by comrades or friends, but by competitors, enemies and indifferent basterds. I won't give a f*ck about any corporation ever!
Growing up, my Dad showed me everything by example. I saw how miserable he was doing his job, but performed it day in and day out to put food on our table. That pushed me to further my education (formal and informal) so I can be more choosey on jobs I take and I get paid very well. A couple months ago I was able to do a lot of electrical work on his house b/c of how flexible my job is.
Kids want to work from home? Imagine that horror. Not spending 2h a day on commute, sleeping better, eating better, having more time for family and exercise. OH THE HORROR!
Yeah, I don't get it... The boomers are gonna die and the ones that are left will only THEN have the chance to change something. Until those in power are alive, shit ain't gonna change.
I know right. I calculated in my current job if I worked from home (which I could at least 4 days a week). I would save $3,100 in gas alone. Thats a 5-10% raise for most people and you save time!
Absolutely spot on! The company I work for implemented homeworking in March 2020 due to the pandemic. It was a bit strange at first, I was 25 at the time and had worked in offices since 18. Since then I've save thousands in gas, hundreds to thousands in buying lunch. I've been able to absolutely nail a bunch of routines including waking up early, getting to the gym before work or on my lunch breaks, spent time with my family and friends, picked up new hobbies and been promoted twice. It makes me laugh when older people (usually those who are retired) associate home working with being lazy. In my case I've found it's the complete opposite. It's allowed me to be more present and more effective in all areas of my life.
The boomers and GI generation grew up in a time of plenty. Admittedly a little less so with the GI generation bc of WW2 and the depression, but they had some really unique circumstances that set them up for success if you were even moderately hard working and you just showed up. I think a lot of the animosity “the younger generation” has is actually because we are seeing declining opportunities to make a reasonable living let alone get ahead in life. Few of us can even dream of leading a middle class lifestyle even with hard work and personal excellence.
Thing i have learned is number don't lie with accurate information. This is why they don't want to work. You run the numbers and most job pay about the same.
Jocko, you've given me so much good advice over the years, now it's my turn! You should order some new pads/cushions for those headphones. I have the same headphones (since 1992), and yours look like they're starting to crumble. Down this road you'll find bits of the pads sticking to your head. It'll be $20 well spent! (I've replaced mine 3 times now, so ~10 years per cushion set -- you probably use yours more than I use mine, but it's worth it no matter what!)
Its not just the last 2/3 generations. There are many who have been working for YEARS. 2- 5 years from retirement who don't take pride in their work. Aren't willing to continually improve products and processes. Jocko is 100% right. Its LEADERSHIP.
You're right that it's leadership, but any implication that people just don't want to work hard is bullshit. Plenty do not, but plenty would be willing to if they were not being completely screwed on pay scale. I worked for a top 3 insurance company that had a lucrative profit sharing program. When they started the program they were consistently averaging $100 million per year in after tax profit. After they cut the employees in on the profits (not uncommon to have 20% of your annual salary handed to you in a check) the after tax profits for the company pretty much doubled every year until it got to over a billion my last year there. Did every employee work extra hard and deserve the bonus? Clearly not, but that's impossible to track and quantify outside of sales. But enough put in the extra work. Also note that the company had to be in profit to bonus. So it cost the company no risk. People just need to know "what's in it for me". If my reward for working extra hard is you get a massive cash bonus and I get a 15 minute break and pizza, then fucking duh. Workers are getting screwed now more than ever and they know that at least. I am a business owner, but if I went back into my old tech job I left ten years ago my salary would be about the same. Yeah, no thank you.
@danielbrown9368 Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of people still getting after it. I hear you on the benefits and crap. It's frustrating to see our insurance go up. Cost of Retirement going up. - leadership needs to see and recognize these things.
@@danielbrown9368 no the "people don't want to work" is true, they just cut it short, the full version is "people don't want to work for the slop that's on offer"
I was living at home during college and a bit afterwards. My sibling was/is a violent and abusive heroin addict living there and it was terrifying and dangerous living there. I lived in an expensive city and was acting like my situation was firstly my brothers fault for being abusive but also societies fault because it was too expensive too move out and wages were stagnant and too low. I also blamed society for dumping this violent heroin addict on my parents with zero support and resources to actually help. This is all technically true sure, but it doesn't help me. It being true doesn't mean that it's worth focusing on and that's what Jocko taught me. It took me years of listening to Jocko for it to truly sink in. That's why this video made me laugh because we can all understand what he's saying but it takes constantly reminding ourselves and analyzing our thinking before it truly sinks in. I still have to remind myself today of this.
the issue with the generational gaps today are simple but confound. I saw the red flags surrounding college debt in Highschool, and that you could just walk in to a job, work, and 2 - 4 years later be 40 - 50 years ahead of most of the people graduating college. The job market is drying up right now, and i dont have high hopes for the next few years. The money you make is only profitable to those that dont have debt, and hardly have any extra expenditures apart from the necessities.
A great quote from "The Equaliser" that is 100% true: "Don't blame the kid, blame the parents" If you are a disciplinary parent, your child will be disciplined. if you are a musical parent, your child will be musical. If you are a bad parent, your child will be bad.
When there is an Extreme Lack Of Leadership among those who set the standard for the younger generations, isn't there a disconnect on the concept of Extreme Ownership. The District Of Criminal's Inc. , the Cult Of Oligarchy and the Cult Of Entertainment Personalities are setting a very low bar of Character. The generational blame game is analogous to the view of a mirror. 🙏
@@TL-rh1lf instead of placing blame on the previous generation and its perceived lack of leadership…. You take ownership of your own actions and choices
Sat in a dark room across a small table with a navy seal pointing a knife at me...Eco sweating, praying this episode is going okay... ; ) Great clip guys thanks for the great insights and inspiration!
I am also GenX. I was trained as an engineer by a "boomer" who had to learn the job without calculators. So with that skillset plus the ability to use technology well, I am very well set.
@@Joeybagofdonutts Im at the cusp of gen x and millenial , and agree. The 80s were a great time to grow up. Huge tech increases, easy life, but not innudated w tech ( kids played outside and had healthier, more amazing tv shows) , and the mind virus of certain modern cultural elements that i will not elaborate on. Even so I still look back on 20s-40sas yielding even higher caliber people, partly due to hardship as well as cultural elements
you're acting like poors don't exist, I'm 23 and had to hunt squirrels with a slingshot to survive, fish and steal too, you only see the sheltered middle class kids online, the rest are too busy surviving
Most genxers I know are a bunch of has beens a who didn’t know what they had growing up in what was basically a golden age of human development, 70s,80s,90s. Not saying you’re like this but genx just takes things for granted. (Who doesn’t I guess, this is just my experience w my parents and their cohorts)
With return to office example, it’s not that they’re doing a bad job explaining why we need to be in the office. It’s that they don’t have one. Their actual reason is “because I said so”, they just make up some other nonsense like “collaboration” to cover it. Your forced collaboration is about the game last night that idgaf about and is getting in the way of my work.
I work 84 hours a week a huge amount of the time, lots of people that older like to say they did that too but very few actually did. I also make decent money and have an actual skill, i in no way have anywhere near the purchasing power my parents did, who worked less snd made less.
Facts - and women in the west think their lives should be like the top top 1% of Instagram “‘models” doing nothing but traveling, lavish lifestyle etc. So any guy who isn’t either 1% top looks, or 1% top wealth is going to get nothing. Then that those 99% of men get shamed for being losers, “just put yourself out there” “just be yourself” Ok boomer.
I understand where this comment is coming from. But here's a reminder to everyone that there are still good women that exist in society. That value modesty and don't contribute to radical 3rd-4th wave feminist ideals. I understand that generalizations help people vent and address issues, but let's not allow this to devolve into women-hating comments. The only way to improve society is to heal gender divisions between men and women.
@@Slickpterodactyl I understand your position, but I disagree. There is no "healing", there is no voting or mediation out of this, the fundamental basis of the nature that drives us has been repressed and usurped. Yes I agree there are a few "good women", but that is not the point. You can't build, maintain, and motivate men to sacrifice off a "few women". Even with there only being a small portion of women close to their nature that is not enough for an entire population of males to have motivation to maintain thus system. More importantly you still don't have ANY legal authority over your family and biological power process in this society, that is the point, we are given the illusion of power, but with ZERO authority, that IS slavery.
Reminds me of an article I read that listed various quotes that were some variation of "kids these days have no character" ranging from ancient Greece to the present day.
Last year as a youth basketball coach (middle school, Gen alphas) was one of my worst. A 9-2 team that made the quarterfinals of the playoffs was plagued by that 'me-first', AAU mentality that was very toxic, and from two of the 'best' players. My plan this year: fix what I DO as a coach. If I coach better, from expectations to play, practice, and games, we'll be a better team.
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In response to the boomer Karen. We are tired of working either endless hours to pay for everything or working 40 hours or less for very little money and not afford anything. No, I dont want to continue making YOU and the company I work for more money. I want my freedom to enjoy my life with my friends, family and girlfriend and our future children. Good employees dont quit jobs, they quit terrible managers. So if all the boomers dont like the "work ethic" of my generation, then DO BETTER! Pay us more money or hire more employees! If you dont want to, suck it up and enjoy your turnover rate!
As a sandwich X generation, I do see millenials bail on jobs faster, still find better jobs,, but also that is slowing down. AI will tighten up the workforce again and remote work that doesn’t benefit the company will prob evaporate. Why not employ someone in India or Philippines for pennies? Doesn’t seem like we’re at the place where remote will be the norm for many industries
As a sandwich X generation, I do see millenials bail on jobs faster, still find better jobs,, but also that is slowing down. AI will tighten up the workforce again and remote work that doesn’t benefit the company will prob evaporate. Why not employ someone in India or Philippines for pennies? Doesn’t seem like we’re at the place where remote will be the norm for many industries
@@sp6990 boomer take. The salary difference when working remotely around the globe is miniscule. You make 90k as a dev in Canada, but you still make 55k in Ukraine and 45k in India. No one works "for pennies", lol.
@@temporelucemtenebris5313 Boomer? I guess but I'm not in that generation, with three properties and a long successful career: When you don't have to cover insurance, workers comp, pension, and other benefits it does in fact become pennies. No one is stopping you or cares what you do, but remote work dreams are for alpha and Zoomers. They will have a different life and we will see if that works out better or not.
If i can add a positive you gave all these guys a chance to tell their story on here that is pretty cool helped me growing up when i used to walk thru the woods or anyone whether they get war stories of their own or not seems like life always has battles waiting for everyone unique to each person
Yessir only the blessed ones understand. The generations before gen z and gen z raised these kids and are the reason why they are the way they are. The problem with the adults before us is they don’t hold themselves accountable for anything. They blame outside factors or blame their own kids instead of blaming themselves. Why are they acting this way? Why are you allowing their behavior?
Extreme ownership goes both ways. I can own where I am in my life and the ways I could be doing better and the leadership who created the current economy, pay structure, housing market, tuition prices etc. can own the world they’ve created for us to live in. I respect Jocko for not making another one of “these damn kids” videos.
Let me see if I can somehow understand this..... First, there was the Lost Generation, circa 1900 - 1910. Then there was the Forgotten Generation, circa 1911 - 1915. The Greatest Generation, circa 1916 - 1924, The Silent Generation, circa 1925 - 1944. Then the Baby-Boomers (Boomer Generation), circa 1945 - 1964. Then came Generation X (Gen-X'ers), circa 1965 - 1980. Followed up by Millennials (The Millennial Generation), circa 1981 - 1996. Then afterwards, there was the Gen-Z's, circa 1997 - 2011. And then came Gen-Alpha (Generation A), circa 2012 - 2024. So my question is....whatever happened to Generation-Y? I mean, did they become the Millennials? Or did they just get left out? Does anyone even really know? And if so, could you please explain it? Thanks.
There's a post above that says Millenials are indeed the Y. I want to point out that the years here apply only to the US although the same exact terminology exists in other countries ex Canada but the years and numbers of individuals within each group are different.
So, I work in a good union and I am fairly comfortable. Work lots of OT, and know my job very well. The worst guys are usually older. Our current fuck up sailor (we are sailors) is always using the excuse that “I’ve been sailing since 1992 and I know better” and he doesn’t listen, works very unsafe, and doesn’t know the proper way to do things. Many of the younger sailors like myself know the right way and are trying to get home safely to their families, but you get the older guys who are losing their minds and can’t do the job right.
Good points raised. I would say the other thing that irks people is the gaslighting for things like WFH. Companies realistically do it for Real Estate and more control, however when the narrative fed is how we are lazy when we work, it creates tension.
Rightly identified. When i was very addicted to video games and reading articles to understand my problem, i came across an excellent article. It started by debunking the lie that games were lazy. In fact, most gamers work hard all day (job or school), then often come home and put almost as many hours into gaming, staying up late, pushing past tiredness, putting off other wants (food). They will spend hours learning every intricate detail to become just a little bit better. The article pointed out how the 'lazy kid' spent more time carefully planning out their mmo character build than the average family (husband and wife out together) spent actually planning for the family's goals and success. Laziness is definitely not the right word. Compelling is the issue. video games aren't addictive, they are compelling. And of course people are drawn to completing things (that book you just can't put down - compelling story, satisfying job you love - compelling value, etc). In a world where so many things are dissatisfyingly off, video games offer so many compelling aspects (compare this to corporate cubicle life): 1. Competence 2. Make a difference 3. Matter to others 4. A sense of getting ahead 5. Get to feel noble/be a hero 6. Real part of a team 7. A sense of Control (vs feeling helpless/subjected) The point when i quit video games as a life wasn't some big struggle. It was merely the point when real things in my life were significant and meaningful, i was making a real impact on others - and i suddenly realized i hadn't played video games in over 2mo and didn't care that i hadn't. I was at the extreme end of Gen x. Things have mostly gotten a lot worse in almost every aspect i faced growing up. Those growing up after me are worthy of respect for what they've faced.
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The fact young people are priced out of home ownership, in a way never experienced by the previous generations, has such a damaging effect on their outlook of life.
When you are priced out of having a family, and a future, it's little wonder why materialistic nihilism fills the void.
Hope is the cruelest form of deception. All many know in the west. Society is obseesed with homes, entertainment, cars, things on and on and nothing inside to show how to BECOME A HUMAN.
Priced out how? You mean you can’t afford a new home in a rich neighborhood? That isn’t new. It’s you being lazy. Plenty of people my age are fine.
@@whiteknob7944 OK, I'll start quadrupling my income tomorrow. Thanks for the inspiration!
No one cares. Work harder.
@@motownpontiac cringe.
Hearing people bitch and moan about the kids they raised is hilarious
It's infuriating. It's like, "and you think this has nothing to do with you?"
Parents: have the most amount of time to spend with their kid, also parents: biologically have the most control and influence on their kid, also parents: turn into the shocked pikachu meme when their kids turn out bad 😂😂😂😂
nah its just the insufferables the rest arent as loud, and internet gives them a platform, i never see it only in group settings and everyone just ignores them
@@bulletproof1581 I always think about the uncle ruckus scene where he finds out he's black . "My son is a lesbian dragon.... This... This can't be"
@@AndrewSullivan-d3x I agree it's not everyone but id actually prefer if they were doing it out loud instead of secretly inviting desperate immigrants in to replace their own children's jobs.
I'm 28yrs old, college degree (loans paid off) and working 60hrs a week as a fiber optics technician and part time on the weekends as a firearms instructor at my local range. I get ghosted by girls my age because I'd rather go to dinner than sleep with them (true story). Can't figure out how I'll ever afford to own where I live, a reliable car to get to work in the snow or how to retire in 30-40 years. Instead of blaming "they," or accepting "them" saying my generation is lazy and doesn't want to work, I get up and go to the gym in the morning, read books at night and build people up around me struggling with the same problems. The truth is, I'm exhausted and sick of the older generations blaming us for the mess we are inheriting. Future looks bleak but I'm doing my best day in and day out. Really glad Jocko addressed this. Anybody else relating to this, please stay strong. Hard times create strong men.
Yessir. 26 here and grinding my butt off everyday. No excuses. Let's get it brother 💪
Buy Bitcoin
Don’t. Don’t buy. Rent. Save. Don’t mess with “these” girls. You can find a decent girl somewhere else. Focus on that later. Make your money now.
Plumbers, electricians and elevator mechanics make a lot of $ and they are in demand- just a thought -‘good luck !
I'm a fiber tech as well what state you work in ?
-My parents bought my childhood home in 1996 for $110k. Adjusted for inflation, that’s $224k. That home is currently valued at $485k on Zillow.
-I work almost the exact same job that my dad did back in the 90s (web development). Adjusted for inflation, I earn roughly 1/3 what he did.
-almost everyone in my parents generation payed their way through college with minimum wage summer jobs. Almost every one of my peers worked all through college, and still graduated with massive debt.
Life is objectively much, much harder for millennials and Gen Z than it was for earlier generations. That’s not an opinion, it’s a fact that is consistently supported by real world data. The older generations can spew their ignorant negative options about the younger generations, but the facts don’t lie.
I was a big believer in hustle culture (and still act like it, I'd argue), but learning macroeconomics and reading charts that align exactly with what you're saying was a huge wake-up call for me that many issues are systemic and only getting worse. Aggregate data really doesn't lie. Anecdotes might not lie, either, but they can be misleading (and people often take their personal situation as gospel)... but that said, some of the hardest working and smartest people I know have struggled the most in recent years.
lol
The "take ownership" argument falls flat on its ass.
I read this quote from an American writer named Henry David Thoreau, this feels very topical,
“One may almost doubt if the wisest man has learned anything of absolute value by living. Practically, the old have no very important advice to give the young, their own experience has been so partial, and their lives have been such miserable failures, for private reasons, as they must believe; and it may be that they have some faith left which belies that experience, and they are only less young than they were. I have lived some thirty years on this planet, and I have yet to hear the first syllable of valuable or even earnest advice from my seniors. They have told me nothing, and probably cannot tell me anything to the purpose. Here is life, an experiment to a great extent untried by me; but it does not avail me that they have tried it. If I have any experience which I think valuable, I am sure to reflect that this my Mentors said nothing about.” - Henry David Thoreau, “Economy,” Walden
Fun fact, this writer died at the age of 45, the book Walden, is named after a pond Henry built a cabin next to, it was land owned by his friend Ralph Waldo Emerson, the book follows his thoughts on varying subjects as he experimentally lives in the cabin for 2 years, 2 months, and 2 days, he started the experiment at 27 years old in 1845.
I work 80-120 hours a week. I refuse to live in poverty. Don't look at what I own and say I cheated. Everyone wants something, but not always willing to pay the price.
Older generations, who are leading the country and workforce, should embrace being responsible for their mistakes. Here in Italy companies blame they cannot find blue collar skilled workers because "everybody went to university" except it's a lie. The old generation keep their knowledge to themselves because they strongly believe that teaching youngsters is creating a new competitor and that one would "steal their job", so companies (who do not want to train people) suffer of generational change in the workforce Also I heard from old people in their 70s, 80s conversations that can be resumed like this: they are glad they are old, that they do not have much to live because if they were young they would not know how to survive this era.
Here in America, take the same attitude. They don't want to train the new guy because they know he's their replacement. And most of our older folks don't have guaranteed pensions. They have these scams called 401ks that gain or lose money based on the stock market. They can't afford to retire or be retired by force.
Here in the US, for decades there was a trope that you basically need to go to college or you wont get anywhere in life.
@@Straight_White_Fatherly_Figure Yeah to scale their own social/economic class, from poor class to middle-middle-higher class. So to be "white collar", guess who is destroying the nation? their sons and daughters.
We’re also not gona give up are workers rights to make dinosaurs feel like they got there due.
It's true to a degree I don't think it's as big as people think. Most of those guys in blue collar roles want to get paid tk train the new guy and they don't so why should they. Everything is is way more expensive per dollar purchasing power than it used to be so new guys only slow down the heavy hitter workers making money per job instead of per hour.
Great podcast. As a true boomer (age 73) I’m glad to have the opportunity to meet and share experiences with Zs and millennials. Zs have fresh ideas and long for kind wisdom, millennials are realizing that they are more responsible than they imagined. Both groups are stepping up and as a FOG I love that. They are not the future, they are the present, and are present.
boomers = worst generation in human history
That’s the way it should be. My grandparents hold the same gleefulness as you and it’s definitely refreshing to hear in this day and age.
It seems to be the exception nowadays tho as more members of the older generations who are business/government leaders are poised to kick the ladder out from under them out of pettiness, spite, envy or even pure negligence, blocking the newer generations from being able to take up that mantle and responsibilities they know they have to take.
It creates a butterfly effect where the newer generations are being taught to not care, to be selfish, to only look out for themselves. By the time the dust settles its going to be really hard to pickup the pieces.
Social Media doesn’t help either with how ‘Me, myself and I’ focused it is, but I attribute it more as a mirror than the pure sole cause.
How about Gen Xers
Who's contribution is blaming other generations for their woes on the internet, whilst accusing all other generations of having no accountability or self-reliance lmao
Thank you
This badly needed saying. I’m in my mid 40’s and I teach young adults and many of them are wayyy more clued in and savvy than many of us were 20+ years ago. It’s too easy to label younger people in this way. Are they annoying or unfocussed at times? Of course, but so was anyone in the entire history of humanity at 19 or 20 years of age.
I was very focused at 20. Just not on anything useful.
100%
I'm mid 40's as well. My genz employees are great. They just want know what they're doing matters. They're alright putting in the work, but they want to know it will lead to something. They're simply not willing to endlessly do all the crap just because a boomer said that's the way life works. Life is really expensive and a lot of these kids graduate college with an immediate house payment sized bill called a student loan payment. They don't have the ability to work for 10 years for 30K a year while they "pay their dues."
I'd argue most young people would focus if there was something to focus on, I mean they have almost the entire sum total of human knowledge in their pockets, it's the fact that no opportunities exist to capitalize on, I mean in the 90s kids and teens wanted to be firefighters, construction workers and astronauts, but now they want to be influencers, not because they're lazy but that influencers are the only ones that seem to be doing well, blue collar workers are under paid and over worked now more than ever and astronauts pretty much don't exist, and young people see that and it affect their motivation,
I mean would you go for an apprenticeship after hearing 14 hour a day weeks at 8 hours a day pay? I know I wouldn't
@@keats182 I think one of the issues is that they are almost too aware. Sometimes ignorance is bliss but these modern kids are basically born cynical in many ways. Maybe cynical isn’t the right word but take education for example, their goal in the classroom isn’t to learn stuff often, it’s more to figure out what’s going to be on the exam. They’re constantly trying to `hack’ the system which is completely understandable, but you would wonder if it is completely beneficial in the long run. So much of life actually doesn’t have a deeper meaning, things can be menial by their nature, but that doesn’t mean they have to necessarily be negative.
As a millennial, I want to work. I want to prove myself. At my current job of 4 years, I spent the first 2 years trying to learn everything I could and being as helpful as possible. I was also severely underpaid for what I did, but in hindsight that's partially my fault for not putting my foot down and making them give me a higher starting pay since they were desperate at the time. 2 years go by, they give me a pay raise based on "surrounding businesses with similar titles". Another 2 years have gone by and I have been told there will not be any pay raises for X, Y and Z which everyone knows simply aren't true. Hard work is not respected anymore. When I try to do the right thing or fix problems at work, I am met with resistance and apathy from my bosses, there just isn't a reason to try anymore.
Not all businesses are the same and many still value hard work friend. Just gotta use your off time to find a better job. It's much easier to get a new one when youre still employed
No offense, but this is a you problem - if your skills are worth more than you’re currently being paid, take your skills onto the open job market and see if another company will offer more for those skills
@blairl6304 your 1st sentence is unfortunately offensive for 2 reasons.
1: More and more bosses/companies are not valuing hard work. So, it is more difficult to find a company actually will value your input and effort.
2: Finding a job is very difficult, and for some, not feasible. We know many people are struggling to find work and it's not exactly going to get easier in the near future. Some people are geographically stuck and moving may not be an option.
I'm not saying don't look for better work, but to say "That's a you problem" does not take into account the difficulties are in entailed. There may be a solid reason not to go out into the job market at that time.
It’s easier to take your skills elsewhere and if they ask, just tell them their is no future here
I mirror this past experience
I struggle with this. We have a bad shortage in my trade and we are underpaid. I regularly hear "young people don't want to work" while they lose employees who look for better incomes
I had some boomer at my old job saying nobody wants to work but the only jobs in the factory were back breaking jobs nobody else wanted.. plus it was only 4-8 hours a night and he said “nobody wants to work” when the job was only 20$ an hour and rent is extremely high in that area.. tired of these ignorant clowns
Just really a lack of mentorship, especially for young men. A lot of society just thinks that other people should be raising their kids instead of themselves. People aren't being responsible for their kids and it is incrementally having negative repercussions on a societal level with each passing year. Not to mention divorce rates and an overall lack of family unity.
We had that in the 80s and you basically had to raise yourself and maybe siblings, but there was a more ordered society
@@evaescrihuela1162 In the 80s you could get a job and pay off a house before 2008.
Now people under the age of 35 just won't ever be able to own a home unless they leave the cities and live in the sticks where there are no services...
people aren't being responsible for kids period, I mean how many young men would benefit from a mentor at work? almost all of them I'd bet but no mentors exist, period
@Rexhunterj OP said mentorship is lacking today, which is true. I paid off my $150k house last year in 4 years at 35 yrs old, because I listened to elders on living below our means, not acting rich. 1980s or 2020s, everyone needs mentorship and can make it happen.
@@jimmay1988the median home price is $425,000. You didn't manage to pay it off by "living below your means," you managed to get extremely lucky with finding a home priced like that (or are living in a very undesirable area)
Thank you, Jocko! I've been working hard lately to break the habit of complaining and blaming. Instead, when challenges come my way, I'm training myself to say, "Good."
Same here and it's starting to effect the my office friends. It is so hard to break as i'm surrounded by it all day when i'm at work.
@@gleadr6869I no longer have any friends but a few family members but I'm feeling less miserable. Keep up the good work, we will find our real friends if we don't stray from the way.
I'll be 40 in a few months. I've always worked 80-100 hours a week in the oilfield since I was 18, the last 5 years I started going to the boxing gym, to the yoga studio, and am active in the community. Work life balance is very important to me. Life is better than ever, even with less money....
Ok your post was really confusing. You said 80-100 hrs a week then you said work life balance and suggested cutting back at the end. So which one is it?
@@PolishBehemoth "the last five years..."
@@PolishBehemoth yeah... Last few years I have not been working 80-100 hours. Really hard to have any kind of life working like that. Pretty much work, eat shower, get a couple hours of sleep n back at it
@@garywhite3209call cap on working 80-100 hours a week unless you’re some dude that stands around watching everyone else work /supervisor or higher management. No way you’re doing back breaking labor for 80-100 hours a week
Appreciate this Jocko. Life is difficult for all of us and we should take ownership over our circumstances and persevere.
I live in rural farm country in Michigan and work at a massive food processing facility. Management always whines about how my generation "doesn't want to work". All our factories are 95% Mexicans now. My hometown has become unrecognizable in ~10 years. So basically the children of the front office employees don't want to pick asparagus with 20 migrant workers who can't speak a lick of English, therefore they are lazy and entitled (but we were told we HAD to go to college by our parents).
This is why I think “The Dichotomy of Leadership” was the superior work. It offered some much needed nuance.
In my experience “They” are often those coming into the workforce from a specific education and they are not only completely unprepared they are unmanageable.
Leaders do not have the time/resources to offer a full education and teach employees how to be a decent human being/ co worker.
The education system and culture has failed.
I’m solid GenX.
I wish I had quit jobs sooner when I was younger, rather than “toughing it out”. Just wasted time with the same outcome.
Young people SHOULD “question everything”. The biggest reason being- you’ve mostly been lied to or ill-advised your entire lives.
So I understand the youth perspective on those parts.
They should be teachable in their areas of ignorance- and those are many when you’re young… IF the knowledge you’re getting is good.
Bunch of kids raised by single moms, women school teachers, and now female bosses and people wonder why things are falling apart.
A millenial joke;
"How can you tell if someone is Gen X?" "Oh, don't worry... THEY will let YOU know ALL ABOUT IT!"
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100% when you are being conned and exploited "just trust me and do what i say" is insidious advice.
I too spent far too much time working hard and giving loyalty where it was not reciprocated.
One of my biggest pieces of advice: *go where they value you*
Bible verse: "give Honor where honor is due"...
An application of that: If they are behaving dishonorably, you should honor someone else who isn't lying about your value
Work life balance is important. Do your job to the highest standard from 9-5. Then forget about work and enjoy your life.
What if the 9 to 5 doesn’t pay enough to live, like for example most jobs on the market? There is 0 work life balance.
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As a high school special ed teacher… I rely on Jocko to guide me when I’m working with a difficult student. As a matter of fact I keep a 3x5 card with “Extreme Ownership” taped to my computer monitor.
The fact younger people want "work life balance," and it is somehow an issue even though we supposedly live in a free country is insane.
I'm a millennial, had a boomer tell me yesterday I'm not doing well because of video games.
I kindly pointed out were both truck drivers for the same company and I have been here 12 years doing the exact same job...
Americans already work the most hours, have the least vacation, least benefits, and have no healthcare system. Our education is also the most expensive by many MULTIPLES.
The game is rigged.
At the same time the country is being flooded by illegal AND legal immigrants because companies lobby (bribe) the government saying they can’t hire workers for the job - what they’re really doing is DRIVING DOWN the cost of labor drastically.
lol the boomer is the npc of videogame, repeating all the same thing.
Should have told him you used to be an adventurer... 🤔😆
lol I just love how millennials are still blamed. Most now are in their 30s and early 40s, have families etc.
@scottf5791 I have 2 kids and every boomer calls me a kid, still.
My neighbor across the street is old and retired. He tells me "I enjoy watching this kid (me) raise a family across the street." He puts me down in a context of being below him in EVERYTHING.
The last time we spoke I snapped. He was degrading every aspect of my life like I was just complaining.
So i asked how much his house cost. 20k.
I told him I paid 200k to be across the street, and our homes being 400k to 600k was actually really really bad. He tried telling me inflation has kept up and asked if he has ever, EVER done the real number on inflation. He needed a long pause for that one... it was a "no."
I made it clear the reason all of his sons don't have homes or family's but I do, is because I beat the odds and got lucky.
Economic problems and wondering where the next meal comes from, isn't an attitude problem like boomers would have us think. Making formula at home wasn't exactly easy.
I take extreme ownership BECAUSE I understand the issues.
Absolutely great podcast excerpt done here.
The only issue with others people have is how they interact and react to other’s actions and the situations brought about from outside forces beyond their control.
Which also bring up the main source of the problem of people wanting to control other people.
You can actively engage and express yourself fully and understandably to others but that is not a means to “control” others. The true cohesive formula is to influence others to do what you feel is best in the situations you face with them and to prevent any issues they may bring up that you may see as an issue.
However the issues vary and factor upon many different outlooks, perspectives, actions, pros and cons, etc. etc.
Be that as it may, ensure the issue also isn’t yourself and you are not creating issues upon others as people can be influenced for better or worse. It just depends on what is seen as right or wrong from the one influencing their control upon another person/persons
Agreed. We didn't hear them in this podcast, but Jocko did state several times that there are limitations to the application of this principle.
Being overpowered/dominated is an exception (assuming one wasn't recklessly flirting with danger).
@ exactly. That’s why it is a must to behoove of your own behavior if your influence can take someone down a wrong turn
Sometimes people with different personalities clash from different generations. My issue with older generations is that it's always "their way or the highway" which is so selfish and shallow. But I stopped caring and am better for it
This is pretty simple to look at data wise; the problem is pretty much in the fact that worker productivity has skyrocketed for generations but wages have stagnated for generations while prices for everything have continued to rise. Like Jocko says bad leaders blamed the “Draftees” and good leaders have stepped up and lead, and who are the “leaders” that could have stepped up? Billionaires and the politicians that rig our system for them. That’s where your angst should be aimed at, not at the people (millennials/Gen Z) that are subjected to the system that politicians have lead us into.
Gen Z has had to deal with something the previous generations didn’t. Being a young adult in this country today leaves you feeling helpless. They’ve made it extremely difficult to be able to afford even the most basic living space. Then if you’re able to somehow afford it, you’re spending 50%-60% maybe even 70% of your income on housing. How is anybody supposed to feel like they can improve their position when staying afloat is such a challenge. I’ve learned that a lot of Millennials and Gen Z’ers can’t stick to a job because they’re trying to make enough to survive and 90% of jobs you find nowadays do not pay enough to make a living.
I’ve had countless friends who were forced to move back in with their parents after YEARS of living on their own.
Sad but true. They have to learn how to live like poor people , Like a lot of us had to. for instance, move to the trailer park on the rough side of town If they have to. watch TV with an antenna ,shop at second hand stores. drive beat up cars , eat bags of potatoes and beans & tortillas
Following these principles over the last few years has removed so much stress in my life. Understanding then accepting ownership/responsibility means I have the control to change the situation, no more impotent rage, but a pathway to change. Get his books (I recommend the audio books since he reads them)
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These thumbnail pictures are killing me 😂
Listening to Jockos view on big Topics makes sleep way better at night. Maybe because his views make me feel as if I can have an influence on my own and everybody's future, instead of being on the receiving end of everything that's happens in the world. Thank you for that.
Our parents generation betrayed us. It's time we aknowledge the truth and reject everything our parents generation did. They did not hand down traditions, culture, values, patriotism., dignity, morals. They only lived for themselves and now we suffer. May we never recreate their misstakes and let's instead build a bright future for the next generation.
So true. The severing of tradition from our generation is probably the most damaging thing.
@@NewRealityPill great. You feel you’ve identified the problem…. Now begin the redemption.
@@motownpontiacyes you admit to treachery as traitorous intentions
Yep. Parents told us what not to do to make their life easier. Never what needs to be done to be successful. They were tearing apart family because they wanted to do their own thing.
Now that we know this, it's time to be the leaders. We can fix society 1 family at a time. We need to build communities of like-minded people who put family first instead of the individual.
Good luck out there, brother.
@o0GaSMaN0o good luck to you, warrior. I have 5 kids and I am raising them to do what is best for society. May you do the same.
I like how he explains stuff while holding the knife in his hand :)))
Who wants to work hard when the job youre supposed to do is barely paying for rent while your supervisor is earning twice what your entire team makes. Why would anyone want to be loyal to a company like that.
True, bur tour don't have control of the company. You control you. Focus on that. Focus on getting yourself into the best position you can
That’s life dude. There is always going to be someone that makes more than you.
Thata not the point i was trying to make. 50 years ago your boss was making a far more reasonable amount of money and so did you. It was possible to buy a house and support a family with most jobs. Nowadays youre lucky if your job leaves you with some money for the next month and buying a home is basically impossible. The only way to get a high paying job is through nepotism. Even with College education its hard to get a job even in STEM fields.
It's not about the pay. Work harder on yourself than you do on your job.
Make yourself marketable. Have a skill set that most don't want or know how to do. I didn't graduate from college. Got a job as an apprentice after the military and worked my way up from there. Have to know how to budget and not be self indulged in the beginning.
Imagine being in control for 30 years then blaming the newest generation for all the issues.
The first thing I thought when reading the title was “ok, boomer.” 😂😂😂😂
Pls do not remind me
Exactly 😂
My first thought was “Good, Jocko’s got some wisdom to share!”
I homeschool. My kids are welcome everywhere and have the choice to walk away from abusive bosses/leadership. And they do. This happens because I am the leader that taught them to be excellent and to walk away.
I need to listen to your stuff more jocko everytime I’m like f u your wrong! god dammit he’s right I need to do better lol
JOCKO IS GOING OFF!!!!
When you actually understand whats going on, you will understand why so many people opt out.
I truly think with AI and the ability to rapidly research in general gives this younger generation the same level of awareness at 18 years that took a lifetime for disillusioned people about to retire that they should have spent more time w/family etc…but that is honestly too bad….because now many of this young generation are taking a nihilistic attitude at such a young age that it will ruin their life before it ever gets started, no ambition etc…the internet is the ultimate poison pill and is destroying our countries prosperity. Jocko is right in that we need some level 10 leadership to turn this ship around
Ever since I discovered your concept of Extreme Ownership, it has completely changed my life and how I see the world. I catch myself every time I start to make excuses and fail to take responsibility for my life. And it is very fascinating how It has allowed me to see when other people fail to take ownership in their lives. I usually don't say anything, and I see it as an opportunity to set the example by taking ownership. And other people will try to convince me that something isn't my fault or that I'm a victim. I refuse to listen to that, and I will tell them that I am taking responsibility for this and I refuse to be a victim. I will work on changing myself and do everything I can to make the situation better and to do better in the future.
I always find it funny when people (including myself) judge Gen Z and Gen Alpha for the slang they use, saying "these kids don't know how to talk" or something, it's funny to me because I'm sure generations before me said the same thing about us! How can I judge someone else for something I did?
1:26 in the morning. Posted 5 minutes ago. Lets get it.
I’m in my early 30’s (millennial) and I get along with the boomers more than I get along with Gen Z. I try to be an example to the younger men in my work place but a lot of times it seems as if they think they just know too much too learn from me, so I let them be and wait till they have no choice but to ask for help. I don’t blame them for acting like that, they did grow up with Google.
In Finland, 1947 is all time peak. 1946 is second best. Boomer sounds stupid because we're shrinking. Shrinkers would be more apt 🇫🇮😁
I'm 50 and after 4 years of remote work, any future position needs to include remote work. I will not be working in the office ever again. Especially now in the feminised, toxic environment.
Right. You say hi or good morning wrong and some how your degrading a woman in the work place. 😂
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Listen to Jocko's video again 😁
Started in the universities and spilled into the workplace.
@@M.STAR.MEDIA1 I know. I was making a joke. To the guys original comment. That he doesn't want to go back into the office.
My lord that last part about the full episode. No.2 ... my office if FULL of these types of people, it takes all my willpower not to let the boss know i'm heading out for the day. The arguments that go on daily is insane. I put headphones in have some music going and try and do some work / ignore them.
This is probably one of the most important messages to date jocko. The millennial generation is supposed to be the crisis generation. What was the other generation that was a crisis generation? The silent generation!!!! What’s the difference between these two generations? The leadership. The generation of our grandparents had strong leaders, whereas we the millennial generation have very weak leaders that further help us fill the purposeless void with (stolen from different comment) materialistic nihilism.
They learned from the best... look at hollywood and politics, almost everyone in those theaters are over the age of 40-50, GenX and Boomers.
If the generations that come before are spineless, sinful and disgusting, the generations that come will be broken.
Gen Z brought in Remote work and work-life balance, as a 40yr old; its now in my favor to work less and enjoy my life. My managers realize all the new hires are lacking and appreciates me training, if they want to listen.
Thisvideo almost made me cry not gonna lie. Thank you jocko for maing these points. Im 29 and have tried to explain to older people who look down on me why my outlook is the way it is. Everything you said is what uve bee rying to convey but it just goes in one ear and out the other. Still staying strong though, im exercising, learning martial arts and learning spanish. Much love man
If the older generation frowns on the younger generation, I’d wanna ask them……. Why are 90% of your children growing up in single mommy homes and the man has zero damn influence on his children.
There are news articles dating back to the 1800's talking about the new generation not wanting to work through decades. This isn't a new concept.
I was stuck at the tire shop and struck up a conversation with a Gen X lady also waiting. I'm a millennial myself and she brought up this concept. I took a gamble and responded with:
"Is it that they don't want to work, or they are miserable at that job and seek a better opportunity? Why sink decades into a miserable company that will drop you in a heartbeat to save money?" I then referenced many people I had worked with that were close to retirement and let go bc they were so close. She honestly responded she hadn't thought of it that way.
There are some dynamics that are out of control, specially for youngsters. In many (specially eu countries), older outvote the younger. Those countries have public pensions, meaning pensions are paid out of taxes. Older gens are pushing for higher pensions, and youngster see an increased burden on taxes, while still cant pay rent, for the older to live comfortably in their paid off homes and going out every day to have lunch or dinner out. This is not the "them" thing, is coaction: "pay my retirement or go to jail for tax fraud". Its demotivating for youngsters to work and push themselves just to see how they cant progress economically in stagnated countries that subsidize the older.
In the work env, genZ are different, but not bad. I dont see the point of my junior working late, they wont be fresh and will burn out. I dont see the point of coming everyday to the office, but a couple days a week instead, mainly for networking. And I love how new gens are so built into chatGpt or other tools, so productive. I love how they challenge every command, they need to understand the "why", if i am unable to explain why we are doing something, maybe we shouldnt. Every person and every gen is different, getting the best out of anyone is the duty of a leader.
I got to say this was definitely a good reminder of how to process a lot of negative biases that we tend to get as we get older.
This extreme ownership only works in military, maybe sports. In the corporate world what do you own ?! - Nothing, you are pawn in the game surrounded not by comrades or friends, but by competitors, enemies and indifferent basterds. I won't give a f*ck about any corporation ever!
Just managed to get a copy of your book! Looking forward to the read, thanks Jocko!
This man is the most assertive human being on Earth
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Growing up, my Dad showed me everything by example. I saw how miserable he was doing his job, but performed it day in and day out to put food on our table. That pushed me to further my education (formal and informal) so I can be more choosey on jobs I take and I get paid very well. A couple months ago I was able to do a lot of electrical work on his house b/c of how flexible my job is.
The smirk Jocko gives AC around 8:25 after he says “these & they” right after explaining the wise use of a mouth filter is priceless. 😭🙌🏽
TRUTH! Love that you are saying this aloud.
Kids want to work from home? Imagine that horror. Not spending 2h a day on commute, sleeping better, eating better, having more time for family and exercise. OH THE HORROR!
Yeah, I don't get it...
The boomers are gonna die and the ones that are left will only THEN have the chance to change something. Until those in power are alive, shit ain't gonna change.
I know right. I calculated in my current job if I worked from home (which I could at least 4 days a week). I would save $3,100 in gas alone. Thats a 5-10% raise for most people and you save time!
Absolutely spot on! The company I work for implemented homeworking in March 2020 due to the pandemic. It was a bit strange at first, I was 25 at the time and had worked in offices since 18. Since then I've save thousands in gas, hundreds to thousands in buying lunch. I've been able to absolutely nail a bunch of routines including waking up early, getting to the gym before work or on my lunch breaks, spent time with my family and friends, picked up new hobbies and been promoted twice. It makes me laugh when older people (usually those who are retired) associate home working with being lazy. In my case I've found it's the complete opposite. It's allowed me to be more present and more effective in all areas of my life.
Grow up. It won't last kid😂
@@clintstiemke3788 kid? My company has entirely moved to online and no mentions of return to office so far.
The boomers and GI generation grew up in a time of plenty. Admittedly a little less so with the GI generation bc of WW2 and the depression, but they had some really unique circumstances that set them up for success if you were even moderately hard working and you just showed up. I think a lot of the animosity “the younger generation” has is actually because we are seeing declining opportunities to make a reasonable living let alone get ahead in life. Few of us can even dream of leading a middle class lifestyle even with hard work and personal excellence.
Commiting to an office for any job 5 to 6 days a week is soul crushing.
Thing i have learned is number don't lie with accurate information.
This is why they don't want to work. You run the numbers and most job pay about the same.
Jocko, you've given me so much good advice over the years, now it's my turn! You should order some new pads/cushions for those headphones. I have the same headphones (since 1992), and yours look like they're starting to crumble. Down this road you'll find bits of the pads sticking to your head. It'll be $20 well spent! (I've replaced mine 3 times now, so ~10 years per cushion set -- you probably use yours more than I use mine, but it's worth it no matter what!)
The average age of Congress is 80. Those people won't release the reigns. Our Founding Fathers were mostly in their 20's.
Wrong!!
Most of them were not in their twenties, you need to review your history.
I love how you are trying to reduce reliance on external platforms!! I say we all leave youtube completely!!
Its not just the last 2/3 generations. There are many who have been working for YEARS. 2- 5 years from retirement who don't take pride in their work. Aren't willing to continually improve products and processes. Jocko is 100% right. Its LEADERSHIP.
You're right that it's leadership, but any implication that people just don't want to work hard is bullshit. Plenty do not, but plenty would be willing to if they were not being completely screwed on pay scale. I worked for a top 3 insurance company that had a lucrative profit sharing program. When they started the program they were consistently averaging $100 million per year in after tax profit. After they cut the employees in on the profits (not uncommon to have 20% of your annual salary handed to you in a check) the after tax profits for the company pretty much doubled every year until it got to over a billion my last year there. Did every employee work extra hard and deserve the bonus? Clearly not, but that's impossible to track and quantify outside of sales. But enough put in the extra work. Also note that the company had to be in profit to bonus. So it cost the company no risk. People just need to know "what's in it for me". If my reward for working extra hard is you get a massive cash bonus and I get a 15 minute break and pizza, then fucking duh. Workers are getting screwed now more than ever and they know that at least. I am a business owner, but if I went back into my old tech job I left ten years ago my salary would be about the same. Yeah, no thank you.
@danielbrown9368 Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of people still getting after it. I hear you on the benefits and crap. It's frustrating to see our insurance go up. Cost of Retirement going up. - leadership needs to see and recognize these things.
@@danielbrown9368 no the "people don't want to work" is true, they just cut it short, the full version is "people don't want to work for the slop that's on offer"
@@jimbothegymbro7086the "People don't want to work" comes from people who don't want to pay full price for labor.
just realized, even when virtual - how I focus more when large dudes are speaking and carrying a knife. Thank you Jocko for the awareness. Best all.
I was living at home during college and a bit afterwards. My sibling was/is a violent and abusive heroin addict living there and it was terrifying and dangerous living there. I lived in an expensive city and was acting like my situation was firstly my brothers fault for being abusive but also societies fault because it was too expensive too move out and wages were stagnant and too low. I also blamed society for dumping this violent heroin addict on my parents with zero support and resources to actually help. This is all technically true sure, but it doesn't help me. It being true doesn't mean that it's worth focusing on and that's what Jocko taught me. It took me years of listening to Jocko for it to truly sink in. That's why this video made me laugh because we can all understand what he's saying but it takes constantly reminding ourselves and analyzing our thinking before it truly sinks in. I still have to remind myself today of this.
the issue with the generational gaps today are simple but confound. I saw the red flags surrounding college debt in Highschool, and that you could just walk in to a job, work, and 2 - 4 years later be 40 - 50 years ahead of most of the people graduating college. The job market is drying up right now, and i dont have high hopes for the next few years. The money you make is only profitable to those that dont have debt, and hardly have any extra expenditures apart from the necessities.
Going "ok boomer" to Jocko sounds like a way to a long vacation
well, he's not a normal boomer. most are so caught up in their retirement that they prefer to screw people over rather than help them.
These lessons are so valuable. This video should have a million views
A great quote from "The Equaliser" that is 100% true: "Don't blame the kid, blame the parents"
If you are a disciplinary parent, your child will be disciplined.
if you are a musical parent, your child will be musical.
If you are a bad parent, your child will be bad.
this. my parents are prideful and have big egos, im trying to not have those myself, mentally "looking in 3rd person" and all that.
Who raised Gen Z who raised Millennials? At the end of the day its on the parents of these generations.
When there is an Extreme Lack Of Leadership among those who set the standard for the younger generations, isn't there a disconnect on the concept of Extreme Ownership. The District Of Criminal's Inc. , the Cult Of Oligarchy and the Cult Of Entertainment Personalities are setting a very low bar of Character. The generational blame game is analogous to the view of a mirror. 🙏
@@robertbennett1287 go ahead. Point some more fingers. Or you can work on fixing the problem.
@@motownpontiactell us how we literally think the end of this is extinction
@@TL-rh1lf instead of placing blame on the previous generation and its perceived lack of leadership…. You take ownership of your own actions and choices
Listening to this guy at .5 speed is always a good time😂
Sat in a dark room across a small table with a navy seal pointing a knife at me...Eco sweating, praying this episode is going okay... ; ) Great clip guys thanks for the great insights and inspiration!
It’s easy to forget we all live here together and at the base of it all….no one wants to fight over things that won’t bare fruit over time
Glad I’m GenX. We are in the sweet spot. We know technology, and we still know the old ways to survive as well.
I am also GenX. I was trained as an engineer by a "boomer" who had to learn the job without calculators. So with that skillset plus the ability to use technology well, I am very well set.
@@Joeybagofdonutts Im at the cusp of gen x and millenial , and agree. The 80s were a great time to grow up. Huge tech increases, easy life, but not innudated w tech ( kids played outside and had healthier, more amazing tv shows) , and the mind virus of certain modern cultural elements that i will not elaborate on. Even so I still look back on 20s-40sas yielding even higher caliber people, partly due to hardship as well as cultural elements
you're acting like poors don't exist, I'm 23 and had to hunt squirrels with a slingshot to survive, fish and steal too, you only see the sheltered middle class kids online, the rest are too busy surviving
Most genxers I know are a bunch of has beens a who didn’t know what they had growing up in what was basically a golden age of human development, 70s,80s,90s. Not saying you’re like this but genx just takes things for granted. (Who doesn’t I guess, this is just my experience w my parents and their cohorts)
With return to office example, it’s not that they’re doing a bad job explaining why we need to be in the office. It’s that they don’t have one. Their actual reason is “because I said so”, they just make up some other nonsense like “collaboration” to cover it. Your forced collaboration is about the game last night that idgaf about and is getting in the way of my work.
Homeownership out of reach? Rent to expensive? Good, homelessness is the real way to live like nature intended.
Can't save because utilities and rent are too high? Good.
It’s a nomadic lifestyle going back to our roots.
lol wish you had that knife in your hand during your pod with Alex Honnold 😂😂😂 that flat affect “Woah” would’ve been priceless
"taking extreme ownership"
may involve doing something to the powers that be at this point... lol
You’re doing exactly what he says not to do…
Thanks Jocko, they should teach this in School.
I work 84 hours a week a huge amount of the time, lots of people that older like to say they did that too but very few actually did. I also make decent money and have an actual skill, i in no way have anywhere near the purchasing power my parents did, who worked less snd made less.
Why would young men fight or work hard for ran through feminist with no legal authority in a gynocentric society? Talk about that Jocko.
Facts - and women in the west think their lives should be like the top top 1% of Instagram “‘models” doing nothing but traveling, lavish lifestyle etc. So any guy who isn’t either 1% top looks, or 1% top wealth is going to get nothing.
Then that those 99% of men get shamed for being losers, “just put yourself out there” “just be yourself”
Ok boomer.
I understand where this comment is coming from. But here's a reminder to everyone that there are still good women that exist in society. That value modesty and don't contribute to radical 3rd-4th wave feminist ideals. I understand that generalizations help people vent and address issues, but let's not allow this to devolve into women-hating comments. The only way to improve society is to heal gender divisions between men and women.
@@Slickpterodactyl I understand your position, but I disagree. There is no "healing", there is no voting or mediation out of this, the fundamental basis of the nature that drives us has been repressed and usurped. Yes I agree there are a few "good women", but that is not the point. You can't build, maintain, and motivate men to sacrifice off a "few women". Even with there only being a small portion of women close to their nature that is not enough for an entire population of males to have motivation to maintain thus system. More importantly you still don't have ANY legal authority over your family and biological power process in this society, that is the point, we are given the illusion of power, but with ZERO authority, that IS slavery.
Reminds me of an article I read that listed various quotes that were some variation of "kids these days have no character" ranging from ancient Greece to the present day.
GOOD morning.
CHESS tournament match obliterated yesterday. 🗿
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Last year as a youth basketball coach (middle school, Gen alphas) was one of my worst. A 9-2 team that made the quarterfinals of the playoffs was plagued by that 'me-first', AAU mentality that was very toxic, and from two of the 'best' players.
My plan this year: fix what I DO as a coach. If I coach better, from expectations to play, practice, and games, we'll be a better team.
As gen x I blame the boomers who stole 30 trillion dollars and have nothing to show for it but a worthless dollar and overpriced everything
A millenial joke;
"How can you tell if someone is Gen X?" "Oh, don't worry... THEY will let YOU know ALL ABOUT IT!"
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@@LlopmondDunderbridge-nn2xt and millennials are gen Z will tell you their pronouns 😆
As if ; )
0:12 Taking extreme ownership 🔪🔪🔪 ? 😂😅
Darn young people worrying about work-life balance and spending time with their children and families!!!
In response to the boomer Karen. We are tired of working either endless hours to pay for everything or working 40 hours or less for very little money and not afford anything. No, I dont want to continue making YOU and the company I work for more money. I want my freedom to enjoy my life with my friends, family and girlfriend and our future children. Good employees dont quit jobs, they quit terrible managers. So if all the boomers dont like the "work ethic" of my generation, then DO BETTER! Pay us more money or hire more employees! If you dont want to, suck it up and enjoy your turnover rate!
Self Entitled Democrat 🤡
As a sandwich X generation, I do see millenials bail on jobs faster, still find better jobs,, but also that is slowing down. AI will tighten up the workforce again and remote work that doesn’t benefit the company will prob evaporate. Why not employ someone in India or Philippines for pennies? Doesn’t seem like we’re at the place where remote will be the norm for many industries
As a sandwich X generation, I do see millenials bail on jobs faster, still find better jobs,, but also that is slowing down. AI will tighten up the workforce again and remote work that doesn’t benefit the company will prob evaporate. Why not employ someone in India or Philippines for pennies? Doesn’t seem like we’re at the place where remote will be the norm for many industries
@@sp6990 boomer take. The salary difference when working remotely around the globe is miniscule. You make 90k as a dev in Canada, but you still make 55k in Ukraine and 45k in India. No one works "for pennies", lol.
@@temporelucemtenebris5313 Boomer? I guess but I'm not in that generation, with three properties and a long successful career: When you don't have to cover insurance, workers comp, pension, and other benefits it does in fact become pennies. No one is stopping you or cares what you do, but remote work dreams are for alpha and Zoomers. They will have a different life and we will see if that works out better or not.
If i can add a positive you gave all these guys a chance to tell their story on here that is pretty cool helped me growing up when i used to walk thru the woods or anyone whether they get war stories of their own or not seems like life always has battles waiting for everyone unique to each person
Yessir only the blessed ones understand. The generations before gen z and gen z raised these kids and are the reason why they are the way they are. The problem with the adults before us is they don’t hold themselves accountable for anything. They blame outside factors or blame their own kids instead of blaming themselves. Why are they acting this way? Why are you allowing their behavior?
Extreme ownership goes both ways. I can own where I am in my life and the ways I could be doing better and the leadership who created the current economy, pay structure, housing market, tuition prices etc. can own the world they’ve created for us to live in. I respect Jocko for not making another one of “these damn kids” videos.
*Gen X is Hit or miss* they are ether jocko or Just this dude who works at Sonic
Mostly "miss". For every Jocko there are 5000 schlubs who make up that joke of a generation.
That, and regardless of effort or education.
Love the Ka-Bar talking stick
First and gen x
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Let me see if I can somehow understand this.....
First, there was the Lost Generation, circa 1900 - 1910. Then there was the Forgotten Generation, circa 1911 - 1915. The Greatest Generation, circa 1916 - 1924, The Silent Generation, circa 1925 - 1944. Then the Baby-Boomers (Boomer Generation), circa 1945 - 1964. Then came Generation X (Gen-X'ers), circa 1965 - 1980. Followed up by Millennials (The Millennial Generation), circa 1981 - 1996. Then afterwards, there was the Gen-Z's, circa 1997 - 2011. And then came Gen-Alpha (Generation A), circa 2012 - 2024. So my question is....whatever happened to Generation-Y? I mean, did they become the Millennials? Or did they just get left out? Does anyone even really know? And if so, could you please explain it? Thanks.
There's a post above that says Millenials are indeed the Y. I want to point out that the years here apply only to the US although the same exact terminology exists in other countries ex Canada but the years and numbers of individuals within each group are different.
So, I work in a good union and I am fairly comfortable. Work lots of OT, and know my job very well. The worst guys are usually older. Our current fuck up sailor (we are sailors) is always using the excuse that “I’ve been sailing since 1992 and I know better” and he doesn’t listen, works very unsafe, and doesn’t know the proper way to do things. Many of the younger sailors like myself know the right way and are trying to get home safely to their families, but you get the older guys who are losing their minds and can’t do the job right.
If you have to demand respect - you don't have it.
The worst person I've worked with was "45" and let everyone know it.
Good points raised.
I would say the other thing that irks people is the gaslighting for things like WFH.
Companies realistically do it for Real Estate and more control, however when the narrative fed is how we are lazy when we work, it creates tension.
Rightly identified.
When i was very addicted to video games and reading articles to understand my problem, i came across an excellent article.
It started by debunking the lie that games were lazy. In fact, most gamers work hard all day (job or school), then often come home and put almost as many hours into gaming, staying up late, pushing past tiredness, putting off other wants (food).
They will spend hours learning every intricate detail to become just a little bit better.
The article pointed out how the 'lazy kid' spent more time carefully planning out their mmo character build than the average family (husband and wife out together) spent actually planning for the family's goals and success.
Laziness is definitely not the right word.
Compelling is the issue.
video games aren't addictive, they are compelling.
And of course people are drawn to completing things (that book you just can't put down - compelling story, satisfying job you love - compelling value, etc).
In a world where so many things are dissatisfyingly off, video games offer so many compelling aspects (compare this to corporate cubicle life):
1. Competence
2. Make a difference
3. Matter to others
4. A sense of getting ahead
5. Get to feel noble/be a hero
6. Real part of a team
7. A sense of Control (vs feeling helpless/subjected)
The point when i quit video games as a life wasn't some big struggle.
It was merely the point when real things in my life were significant and meaningful, i was making a real impact on others - and i suddenly realized i hadn't played video games in over 2mo and didn't care that i hadn't.
I was at the extreme end of Gen x. Things have mostly gotten a lot worse in almost every aspect i faced growing up. Those growing up after me are worthy of respect for what they've faced.
I think boomers need to take a long hard look in the mirror as well.
Jocko brandishing the knife has me dead 😆💀