Generations don't raise themselves. The shortcomings of today's generation reflect the incompetencies of those who came before. Want better kids, be better parents but I guess that's too much responsibility.
And just the same, employees are allowed to seek other employment whenever they wish. That mutual freedom is part of the deal. You can't just cry about it when it's in your disadvantage.
You thought you could hide behind boomers and gen x hating on millennials forever and you are so...made of glass...you Karens... I... 😂😂😂😂 hahahaha Your turn. Your turn. You hid btw. 1 day apart from late millennials a lot of you and you got to point at us as we were the scapegoat, are the scapegoat. Do not complain. Kiddo I graduated 2008 and got blamed for what Boomers and Xrs did to destroy the world.
Imagine how Simon's generation looked to his grandparents and parents. A generation that relied on electronics and fast food, who has it easier than any other to get a house and still managed to be a generation burdened with debt with no financial control and frivolous spending. A generation that discarded and wasted things at the drop of a hat. A generation that thought working in an office was hard work and they had to have a 5 day week. Gen Zs have witnessed how 'the grind' and loyalty to employers left their parents overworked, underpaid and struggling to keep mortgages during the crash. Parents that weren't around but had little to show for it and we're discarded at the drop of a hat.
I am Gen X. Born 1970. Started working, full time, on a Soviet oil rig when I was 19. I started working on oil rigs during summer breaks in High School, at the age of 15. Gen Z are absolute PUSSIES. They are SO weak, that I cannot stand having them around. Heck, I cannot even stand seeing them! 😂 I made good money, bought my first apartment when I was 20. My first house when I was 24. Worked hard, saved money, and now I own several, income bringing houses. GEN Z will rent for the rest of their lives. Because they are weak and lasy.
I used to work in a company where GenZ’s attitude has been a godsend! The employer did not value their employees extra effort to the degree where going up and beyond became the expected norm, without the benefit of extra pay. Few GenZ quick quitters showed that we can indeed just tell them to show it. I think only 10% of staff remained, seems like everyone has changed their jobs within a year time!
Sure...I ran a small business and gave raises left and right to everyone who actually worked without being baby sat. About 5% of your gen got one because they didn't know basic things, had no worth ethic, and no critical thinking. But hey, those gender studies degrees are great if you want to work at a strip club.
I totally get what you're saying about the employers not valuing their employee's, makes sense, however, many of the so called Gen Z's mainly quit because they have weak parents like me who give them what they want so they don't be mad at us. Somewhere to live is important and they live with their parents these days and talk shit about jobs cause they don't pay rent. If they didn't have the luxury of laying up in their parents apartment or house all day, they probably wouldn't have the same attitude and then maybe figure out ways to make things work at these jobs when problems arise instead of quitting. Just a thought, but maybe they will lead us to something better ultimately, only time will tell.
@@JustHustle919 hmmm. I think that it actually belongs to that time and age. When you are in beginning of your career you ideally want to try different things that work for you and for that you have to experiment and experience. I wouldn’t be so harsh on kids these days. I have been through countless little jobs myself, I tried working with my hands, went to assembly line for some weeks etc. I even managed to get myself homeless for a month… Thanks to that experience I became resilient responsible and loyal employee. I know how to from all those little mistakes and trials and errors I did before I finished schools. I think that older people tend to forget their young years way too quickly and many of them idealise themselves in their memories. Today’s GenZs are product of that specific time and experience. Yeah, ‘weak’ parents may not prepare you for tough discipline, but you never know, if they had been stronger, it might have gone south in a different way 🤷♂️. Anyways, young people should be left to do young stupid things and older adults should be guidance and role models to them (which they rarely are). There is an another dimension to that. Millennials are kids of boomers, so we have lots of traits that stem from how they are. GenZ are kids of Xes, so the same flies. Xers held Millennials to the standards that would probably not be issue for GenZ and vice versa… 🤷♂️ Maybe problem is in people who judge others by their impossible standards 🤷♂️
@@JustHustle919 bro I'm gen z i always quit for more money, I got to my current employee and demand a raise if not I have another by next week, pack my stuff and blocked their numbers life goes on, theres no such thing as burning bridges.
I am a gen z and I am 25. I think our generation lacks the mental strength to deal with difficult situations. Instead of addressing the problem, most gen zs turn to weed, the bottle or a device. My dad told me, son you are the only person who can solve your problems. Actually, he encourages me to keep going on because I wonder how life would be if he gave up. Most gen zs lack suitable father figures people who can motivate and inspire them to keep going on when things get tough.
I have a gen z neice, and her boyfriend is also gen z... thank god those two kids break the stereotypes of typical gen z's... they are bad asses. he is a cool guy who wrestles in college, and does physical manual labor, she came from a poor family and decided on her own to turn her life around and be the first person from her biological family to get a bachelor's degree. she's currently a junior in college with only $5k in student loans
Well what’s funny is A, each generation is a reflection of the one that raised it. So it’s funny hearing all this complaining from the people that raised us. When they shit on us, they’re really shitting on themselves, which they will never admit to as narcissism and lack of accountability seems to be their biggest trait, shocker. And B, most of us are entering university, or finishing high school. So of course we don’t have the answers. That’s like saying “yeah Gen Alpha are a bunch of pussies, such poopy pants they have like basic elementary knowledge and get scared easily”. Yeah, cause they’re literally kids… Like who are you trying to impress by proclaiming knowledge superiority over a generation you have 20+ years on? It’s also, again, funny how their first approach is to point and judge, rather than reflect on themselves and imagine the other perspective. It’s constant projection, without the bravery to admit the world doesn’t owe you anything and that you indeed fucked up majority of your life. That would take self accountability, a down to Earth mindset, moving on from empty promises and facing your fears. Either way for better and worse these older generations that have shaped and lead this world into being what it is (for better or worse) are slowly dying off or are simply retiring (lol that won’t exist for us) so we’ll get to find out soon enough just how great and wise the fruits of these older generations truly are. Ultimately, most will be lost and confused, majority will fall into the lower end of society and very few will become extremely rich. We will most certainly regress, however, there’s a chance that from all that chaos, a lot of the fundamental truths of life that have been suppressed or outright silenced/rejected will be forced upon us, and those hardships will ultimately shape us for the better. We are after all in hard times due to being led by weak people. These hard times will forge strong people, and strong people will create good times once more. My only hope is that enough of my peers will be conscious and humble enough to recognise past mistakes, and not let good times create weak people again.
Back than my first job was waiter For just 3hrs $300 i was 15years old working with a fake ID. My next job at 17 $10 at the mall Than McDonald’s $7.50 I quit on 4th day. My next job was mexican store $8. Hr i stayed there the longest im talking about in 2015 The next job Dental assistant $10 hr I hated it lasted 3M The next job $13 hr same Dental assistant at different job Now I obviously make more. But moral of the story i had to work my way up back than. I’ve noticed some (Not all) but some Get started at $15 even fast foods be paying more for a degree 📜. I just find it upsettin. Everyone mostly everyone want the easy way now. Theres nothing wrong with wanting it easy but it also shows how this world has evolved in just 9years. Best advice i could give out start your own business thats the only way to make more . It also takes hard work
@@MyrnaDeJesususe to be an overnight stocker in college, thank god I’m not. It’s not worth the pay to work on a holiday even though they pay overtime for working on the holiday. Hard workers don’t get recognized for going above and beyond especially stocking a whole section of the store while 3 employees call-in. Only managers are acknowledged for their “leadership”🤨 and regular employees get replaced every hiring period, sadly.
Gen Z is weak because my generation (gen x) has been weak parents. I'm tough and strict on my kids (23 and 15), it's paying off now. All of my friends have 'princess boys', that's what I call them. And the girls are even worse, little narcissists.
Every generation seems to think the generation or two that come after them are weak, entitled, doomed to failure. As a 41 year old, it's true; Zoomers suck at doing stuff compared to me. But I've had 20 years of head start to figure things out. If I were to be overly cautious, I might think it will take 20 years to know for sure, but history shows us that, far from being weaker than us, the generations that follow are just a few shades better than the preceding ones. And if it turns out that they really are weaker, then the responsibility for their weakness falls on us. I have 20 years to make sure they are better than I was at 41.
Definitely. Our “weakness” at least in my dumb inexperienced opinion is we can see what happens all across the world, and our own countries. We see corruption, shady businesses and how governments refuse to do anything. We lose motivation because of this
I'm a Millennial I remember watching Simon Sinek say the same thing about my generation always focused on the negatives but never the good now he's doing the same thing with Gen Z 😂😂
I mean... we are weaker... physically.. at least in that regard. I mean T-levels have been dropping for decades and we are seeing it in men especially how it negatively effects them.
@@DatAsianGuy we can't know what their supposedly lower testosterone levels mean in context. It may be that a Baby Boomer, under the same exact circumstances that Zoomers are growing up in would have even lower "testosterone levels". And what good is the testosterone-level metric? It is possible that higher testosterone in the current environment would be detrimental to the fitness of Gen Z, not helpful. It is possible that low testosterone is not a hard attribute, but is adaptive, such that Zoomers may have the exact same potential for testosterone-level as previous generations. It may be that Zoomers physiology is slightly different, maybe because there are more Asians or Hispanics or Blacks or Eastern Europeans, etc. in the makeup or just as a result of genetic drift. It is a flawed argument to assume that some generation in the past was a paragon of human existence. We can regress. We can progress.
I'm not Gen Z but damn I'm proud of them. It's not weak to stand up to people that profit on your silence and say enough is enough. It's not weak to look at the status quo and say no I'm not doing that. It's weak for two wealthy middle aged men to sit around and judge a generation of people that might not even own homes because we let banks buy them all.
Welcome to the human condition snowflake. You're welcome to start your own business and see how 16 hour days feel.Oh, and banks screw everyone. All the time.
im 35, so millienial. I dont have much contact with gen z but i imagine a lot of what they deal with is similar to us, in that any work we do profits us absolutely nothing. when youre doomed to poverty the likelyhood of bailing gets pretty high
Why do ppl insist on a society where the expectation is we work (at work + commute + preparation + after hours) more than we do literally anything else including sleep and spending time with loved ones. And free time for most ppl can’t even be fully enjoyed because of the stress and energy drain that modern work produces
Because otherwise you’d be the woods making/hunting your food and working on fixing your own stuff with no help from society or have any of the comforts of living in that society. No AC or plumbing. No cell phone or any internet access. Societies aren’t free, they require labor and time. People forget that.
@@BloomingFireHeart I'd argue the ultimate society provides everyone's needs for free. Either we get there or it collapses and we start over. Honestly, I'd rather do all of my own manual labor because at least in the woods, once I build my shelter it's mine and I don't have to pay someone for it. Instead of going to the grocery store, I'd spend an hour hunting. And guess what? I could just chill for 3 days (that's how long one deer could last) so your argument is invalid. This society is corrupt and falling apart slowly. The wealthy are just figuring out how to control us when it does. Also, our society is built around PROFIT which is why everyone CAN'T have things for free. Cause greed.
Or we realized that actual labor means nothing unless you own it. That’s where the “entitlement” stereotype comes from because we think after the hard work we put in we deserve it.
This is what I was saying in another comment. Gen Z tend to be more self-aware about worker exploitation, there’s a huge increase of anti capitalists in the younger crowd. They prefer to “worker smarter” and “not harder”. There’s also a major shift in values with these generations. Genz tend to value travelling, fun and lived experiences (which makes sense as a younger generation of people) in an economy where we probably can’t afford to feed a family or to own a home, we prefer to work for those experiences. Less and less younger people are inclined to work towards “settling down” or building a notable career. We just don’t value the dream that these older gens do or did.
Own it? Most of you havent even tried to work decent work, let alone got into school for business. Some twink sellout youtuber shilling you 39.99 a hour classes on "dropshipping" doesnt mean you own a business kiddo lmao. The entitlement statement comes because of whiny statements like yours here. You want all the reward, for none of the work. World doesnt work like that Ipad baby, cry about it lmao. Notifs are off, good luck replying
Man, after having a few gen z coworkers he hit the nail on the head. It’s wild. The “fake confidence” is insane. It’s ok to not know stuff, it’s ok to try hard and work hard, it’s all ok.
@@j3in725 ok? What’s your point? They may not have invented it but what exactly does that have to do with my statement … GenZ is very much the Instagram generation, as long as it appears good it’s fine. Don’t bother backing it up with anything else.
To me Gen Z has no depth. If you are trying to teach them something they get the jist of it and think they know something when they actually don't. So infuriating and frustrating.
In life there is no short cuts, admit it, don't fight against it and you live peacefully... life is designed that way, before to bright you gotta go through darkness ✨️
These younger generations were not allowed to be angry and confrontational toward each other. It is “unacceptable “. Being taught that from a young age impacts how the brain wires itself to respond to conflict and uncomfortableness.
That's one of the many reasons that that generation is doomed. Have you ever talked to a gen z, they are seriously really really strange, not to mention they look really really strange.
There is nothing wrong with gen z or any generation for that matter. They aren't more immature, theyre just young. This is just the older generations realizing they got old.
@@inttruders and those issues are? being inslulted by people like this very video, calling them weak, teachers that rant on the internet about how stupid their students are instead of correcting their mistakes and help them catch up, which btw it's absolutely possible, oh and let's not forget, their huge issue of only respecting exclusively people who respect them back and no one else, that seems to be the real "issue"
I am a millennial and I truly understand gen z. They are really smarter than we think and understand the world more than we do. They don’t have that work hard play hard mindset like we do. They have the whatever happens happens and honestly that’s how life should be. We shouldn’t spend our lifetime trying to control the uncontrollable.
I wish they are still happy when they are in their fifties, when the horizon of ending comes closer, they still feel so nonchalant as they are today? Only time can tell.
@@happyface730Deep dark depression or a normal ass life. Gen Z is more normal than you think, at least coming from a small conservative community in northern Wisconsin. Plenty of kids graduating early and working full time at 16. Plus all the lgbtq and black folk got bullied!
Is it specifically Gen Z we are talking about or is it a combination of Gen Z and Millenial? How can you reasonably expect a 25 year old (the maximum age of a Gen Z) to have over 5 years experience at a workplace when you don’t finish college/university till you are 21/22 and even longer for some degrees. To me it really just depends on the person you can get people of the boomer generation far less resilient than those in Gen Z and vice versa, every generation has their own challenges and it seems every generation likes to criticise the next but realistically it makes no sense to automatically generalise a person based specifically on what year they were born in.
Because the real world straight up works differently than that. You're talking about a person, 7 years after turning 18, that doesn't have 5 years of experience. So they were in college and not working, and also without subsidized payments. 49.8% of college students go for 4 year degrees, but without working and paying for at least a portion of their classes? 24.9% of college graduates earn associate’s degrees, also without working and paying for at least a portion of their classes?
I pretty sure gen Z starts at 97, so we're 27 yo now (26yo at the time of your comment), 5 years of experience is unlikely but possible if you include internships.
Life is not about work. Just because people are so used to the idea of a wage base slavery, doesn't mean it has to be like that for eternity. I actually admire GenZ for realising that. As a millenial I have been pushed around one time too many which has led me to realise that I am not working for anyone but myself, anymore. You can call me weak, but I refuse to let other's ideas of how I should behave in the work force (it really is forced upon us) dictate my life.
@@AnanayatGen Z has 86 percent less purchasing power than the baby boomers had. Literally none of us can afford to live and buy a home. We could make 100k a year and still can’t afford to get by.
You are still working and still contributing to society through your work. If you want to live in a society then you have to work and contribute to that society. If not, then live in the woods with non of benefits of society. It’s work either way.
And as far as working on the weekends , Boomers didn’t really work on the weekends either . They were home with family after 5pm . Major corporations have increased their sales to make more profit and want us to do the labor or work for a few dollars out of millions and billions and Gen Z isn’t having it . Why work for you and make $200 a day when you made $10,000 and stay for 20 years . I think we care more about the work life balance more than just money .
Yes, while that’s true, this is radically different. These younger generations are slower and slower to mature, and they think they know everything. If you look at both the millennial and Zoomer generations, neither one of them have any great life altering inventions. Boomers created personal computing and the internet, GenX invented social media and much green energy, while the millennials and Zoomers only use this technology, and have nothing to show for inventing it.
@@troepvanerik5880 I agree as the younger generation,we need to find our own answers that won't happen until we are willing to do so. It's something humans do to be better.
@@jeremyevantaylor1724 Yes, I certainly have seen it happen as well. Social media has given us the idea that everything is happy go lucky. Which is simply not true. The reality is something very different than social media and change in your lives depends on what you do to achieve that. Not by pretending to achieve that. I hope that we the younger generation can realise our worth and work hard to develop the quality of lives. It is in our hands.
@@jeremyevantaylor1724 Thankyou for your encouragement. I hope you're wrong as well. But, just as there are wrong and untrue ideas there are many worthy content creator in social media platforms. Depends on who finds what. Just like how I found this. I hope things turn around as well. Saying is easy but putting it into actions is the hard part. Hope it works out for me and everyone as well.
Quiet quitting is the perfect response to the abusiv suffered by workers. No disruption to the employer just a reflection of what the employer thinks is a fair wage.
I am a gen-Z (22 years old) and I am always wondering why are we always crticized and this video is the answer. I don't feel to doing just my hours of work with a minimum effort but improve my skills and be proud of myself. I have some issues to control the stress, I am jobless, I Have a contract to make some internships (training periods) or prepare for a training period like updating my CV (resumé) in exchange of 500 € a month, I decided to take that while I am looking for a job. this is the best thing I could earn without a job so I do with it.
It's not our fault We've given up because our entire life we've been told that the world is burning humans are evil and we are insignificant We believe we can't do it because that is what we've been taught
Wtf is going on here lol. Just start working, stop whining and get out there do something besides watch tik Tok or playing on iPads cause your parents used it as a pacifier growing up.
@@valarmorghulis4801 bro doesn't understand that children will do as they are told because they don't have fully developed brains and are heavily effected by the environment around them
The bit about boundaries is a bit offputting. I would agree about having flexible boundaries on the basis of whether you want to help weather a storm. It's one thing to be invested in a project, an idea, a start up, etc and willingly push your boundaries to get something out the door. It's an entirely different matter to push your boundaries because your boss told you to do it, mandated it, shamed or put you in an ultimatum to do something beyond your boundaries. Much like the definition of full time work meaning different things for different ppl, I'm sure the definition of weathering a storm and what being resilient means will change overtime.
Just don't work there then. I'm an easy going dude that doesn't like high stress but I don't expect to be paid or received the same wage as someone who available 24/7. Some places smash the boundaries and demand the job is your life. Take a different job or sacrifice yourself for days, weeks, months or even years to get to where you want to be.
@@DavitofritoSure, but that’s not the message from this guy. He started this clip by saying quitting a job because you’re unhappy with it is a sign of weakness, which is asinine.
@eyespy3001 It's not asinine. Not everything is about happiness. The ability to whether discomfort is what builds resilience. It's something this generation lacks.
Yes. They are weak as shit. Look at them wrong and they feel “offended”, or my favorite, their feelings are hurt. Can’t blame it all on them, social media doesn’t help.
@@thenatureboy1837in their defense and I don't defend them a lot, growing up entire life with social media all around you while you're going through grade school I can only imagine would wreak havoc on mentality. And there's nothing they can do about that everybody has it
Simon has a great point about boundaries. Being flexible with boundaries is a reflection of taking ownership and being accountable. It's a virtue, and cannot be thrust upon anyone.
The younger generation frequently moving between jobs shouldn't be seen in a negative light as it gives people more experience in different organizations and industries thereby helping them find what they like and don't like and helping them grow. I think however even if there are things that you don't like or agree with in an organization, as long as it's not toxic and no amount toxicity should be tolerated, staying at a company and weathering the hard times with good for a time also adds to your experience, growth and help keeps your mind open. Boundaries should not be blurry; they should absolutely be clear otherwise you get boundary creep and overtime becomes the norm. Many times, I've seen people asked to work overtime, pulled into a meeting at 5pm or asked to come in on a Saturday to finish a project. These people do not get fairly compensated, they don't get compensated at all, it's just expected that they'll be involved whether they want to or not. People have a life outside of work and therefore should be able to politely decline without repercussion. Fair compensation should also be paid for any amount of overtime in order to balance the playing field and make organizations think whether they really need that person to work those extract hours and also to incentivize performing a review to inspect and understand how we got here and how can we do better next time to avoid this. I think everyone agrees that the hoisting a sail example is a good one but then that person is out there on stormy seas, they should be appropriately compensated because they are out there doing the work, hoisting that sail in stormy weather and the organization should be asking themselves, how did we get out here in this storm? What can we do better next time to avoid the storm? There is something we can all learn from those entering the workforce because they see things with fresh eyes and from a different perspective than those of us who have already been working for years. Rather than trying to maintain the status quo and to analyze and point out what the younger generation should and shouldn't be doing, we should be looking at ourselves with eyes open and asking what behaviors we can learn from them. If we still truly believe that the ways of the younger generation are no good, then we should look to ourselves as, one way or another, we have had a part to play in shaping their views and ideals.
Very well put. I especially appreciate what you wrote about the new workforce entering with fresh eyes. I think older generations have this mentality of “it is what it is,” that we’ve been stuck with for nearly 100 years. We’ve been told to endure and not be quitters for so long that we became wage slaves; an easily-exploited work force who were brainwashed into believing working hard and sacrifice were actually virtuous achievements. However, the veil has been lifted, and younger generations see this clearly not the case. It’s funny that a certain political group is trying to demonize the word “woke” because this younger generation is not asleep, believing the lie of the American Dream.
Based response. Also, in regard to the boundaries having to be clear and hard-lined, it's as the saying goes, "give them an inch and they'll take a mile".
It’s fairly simple. Gen Z is hyper aware due to access to information at it’s fingertips. They are just more intelligent than previous generations it’s just a fact. They see the world for what it truly is and see there’s rampant corruption in virtually every mode of business that the previous generations have failed to address. At this point it’s a waiting game for them. Will the world end before I get to where I want to be? Or will they die off before then. Hence why you see a drastic difference between Gen Zers. Those who are super hard working/ambitious and those who are “doomers” the issue is a lot of them are doomers which is understandable if you understand how the world/politics work. It’s not that they aren’t resilient they just know the system is bullshit.
@@dim2389 In your twenties? That's late most of us in my generation were aware as early as 14 years old. Add on that no one respects young people unless they provide something, why should we care about a business or company loyalty? We only work for money that is it.
Sorry but that is absolute bullshit. This is the type of mentality from someone who is defensive about their generation. Yes, access to information is a thing. GenZ are digital natives. But there is a huge fallacy in that. Previous generation have the same access on top of life experience they already had. People knew about corruption long, looong before the internet and social media. It is simple impossible to “address” all corruption, it will always be part of life. GenZ are not special. There has been hard workers and lazy bums in every single generation. The difference is that GenZ grew up with the platform to be vocal about it. Same for every previous Gen as the internet is sth not exclusive to GenZ. They just don’t know a world before only after while others know both. There is also no correlation between intelligence and the internet. Because the internet by kids and teens is primarily used for entertainment. People are definitely more native and fluent in digital information but not necessarily smarter. In fact, there seems to be a regression in general knowledge due to being consumed by social media and the desire to get approval of strangers. Of course, that can’t be generalized on GenZ. But this whole “I am a teen or young adult and see the world for what it is, you don’t” doesn’t fly. It’s what a minority of every Gen thought at any point in time. GenZ doesn’t have it easy. But nobody had. There was gens going through Great Depression and famine, poverty. True hopelessness. They will manage just fine.
Young people today probably lack an awareness of historical perspective more than any previous generation. The world is fucked up and corrupt, but FAR less fucked up and corrupt than it was for any previous generation. You have the highest standard of living over any previous generation. You have to sacrifice far less than any previous generation. Instead of seeing how everything has continually progressed for the better ... You don't have the historical perspective so you only see the now and hyper focus on any issue that is present. The things young people complain about today and their issues are so minor and trivial compared to the problems people had to deal with in the past.
You're not smart, technology is. It gives you the illusion of being smarter. Then again young people are always naive enough to think they know everything. People are much freer and much dumber. People have been known the system's corrupt but older and wealthier people hang on to power as much as possible. Plus late stage capitalism, it's ended up this bad by design. By the time us millennials are the older ones in power, things will improve, I'm sure. Def not perfect but imperfection is just human.
I'm 39 and my problem is younger people seem to rally against me. Example for context: I was a manager at a fast food place (not to name, names) I got our drive through times down to 45 seconds per person average, I lowered food costs down to 4% waste, and got employee cost down by 2 hours a day times 4 people. I noticed people didn't want to work so I made a check list and divided it up evenly. Seems fair right!? Nope... they end up getting mad at me because, "They are losing hours". They weren't losing hours, they just weren't allowed to milk the clock. We closed at 10pm, we were out by 10:15pm. They used to get out at midnight milking the clock. I'm all about hours and working, but I can't sit at work for 2 hours milking the clock every day. They may have no lives when work is over, but I do. I hate working with Gen Z. They should just stay on social media, live in a cardboard box, and stay away from work until they can actually do the work. Let the people who want to work and do a good job, do so.
Speaking as an older zoomer (24), this whole country is gonna have to deal with the fact that my generation is smaller, and raised with fewer religious morals, and fewer cultural expectations, than any other. Though ironically I've found is shockingly easy to surpass my older coworkers on co-ops simply because I make work about providing for my near-future family, and hence I work hard. That's not the norm, though if anyone is gonna be able to survive the upcoming economic depression, they gotta do it. We adapt or we die, and though I used to be a big quitter, I ain't a fan of dyin'
To understand GenZ, look to their parents who are mostly of GenX. Then all will make sense. GenX is the original latchkey, cynical, slacker, lost, doomed generation.
@@MarmaladeINFPI am genX and the cynicism is justified. When we were kids we saw the destruction of social democracy, the rise of a culture of greed, the return of monopoly capitalism, the first house price spiral brought on by financial deregulation, deindustrialisation and the subsequent benefit culture which led to the demonisation of the working class. We saw the culture shift from arty and experimental to lowest common denominator mass market drivel. We saw the commercialisation of counter culture, so nothing meant anything. We saw the economic alignment of political parties which meant we couldn’t vote against the destructive neoliberal program. And it’s all just carried on but worse. So yeah I am cynical
As a 41 year old millennial who went through the 2008 financial crisis at the start of my career, I feel that quiet quitting is the best way to work now a day. Do your job and go home. If they want us to go above and beyond they can pay above and beyond. 2008 taught me we are all just a number and we are all replaceable.
I’m gen Z personal I don’t mind staying after work to help sometimes, however I don’t want to always do so and if on the off chance that I need to leave work early I don’t want to be met with resistance. Business/work is all about transactions if I give something I want something in return
As a gen X-er, I definitely started to see a bit of this when I was in school, which may be a big part of the puzzle. Somehow, public school teachers and public education generally, became increasingly fixated on eliminating all trauma - zero tolerance for bullying, hyper-concern for self harm, metal detectors and security guards, but also an educational culture that deliberately taught, as an integral part of the curriculum, kindness, tolerance, diversity, self-actualization, finding your true path, joy, bliss. Generally a supportive and gentle approach to education, but that needed to be enforced by constant gatekeeping and strict enforcement by authority figures, since lack of kindness or support for diversity of all types couldn't be tolerated. These sound great. Who wants intolerance, bullying or the psychological trauma that comes with it? For many, childhood trauma results in pathology. But, for many others, it manifests as adult resiliency. Eliminate childhood trauma and you eliminate the ability to contextualize and navigate future problems. Smooth sailing makes for poor sailors.
True, but most of these policies hadn't really been actualized until like mid to late 2010s. I remember like the no bullying campaign being started in my 5th-6th grade years, I agree, my generation has had some pretty smooth times, but there have been a few bumps and aches to counter them. For the most part I'd say that I have had a relatively normal childhood; I got bullied during late elementary and middle school, decided I had enough and joined the wrestling team in high school, and buffed up, then Covid hit and that kind of took a hit on my mental health, as I am a very obvious extrovert, but in the end I learned, yeah my generation has its issues, we've had maybe too much access to social media, but all and all, I think a lot of the issues we face are simply product of the time. We'll grow out of it, we are resilient, we just have to develop some communication skills to amplify it. Now I'm starting to enter the workforce and wrestling has taught me a lot about hard work and mental reserve, in the end we'll do alright.
No, YOUR world as the business owner with equity in your business may not stop on a Saturday. But it does and should for salaried employees who have lives outside of work. Work colleagues are not your family, they're team mates at best.
There is some disastrous survivorship bias going on in this conversation. All the judgements they're making are coming from what they see on social media, but most people are invisible through such a lens. It shows that they haven't spent much time in their own large teams for a while. I've worked with dozens of Gen Z now, and it's...normal. Some come and go quickly, but most of them just get on with things like the rest of us.
I mean, I'm 22 and I do pretty well, but since there's so many people of my age just not working. It makes it even easier in a way to just go in and get what you want if you're willing to work. You can still get what you want, you're just gonna have to work just like everyone else.
Haha, I totally agree. I am actually GenX, and there are so many GenZ that choose not to work. I’ll never have to worry about being out of work or finding a job. And many of the GenZ that does work, have no understanding how to proper condone themselves professionally at work, so they do end up asking the boss questions like in this video, because rather than ask their professional working parents how to approach that situation, they turn to the interwebs, and some troll living in their mother’s basement is giving them advice.
Also, Simon: boundaries = self-respect. You keep saying, “I know you’re scheduled till 5, but I need you to 6 this one time.” But we all know, once you acquiesce, you’ll get asked again because the way they see it, you’ll put up with it. When I started my job years ago, my boss tried to get me to work six days a week about 2-3 times. After the third time, I refused. He never asked again. (I.E. boundaries)
I look at those requests as opportunities for leverage. With my own company I negotiate that if I do a 6-day work week this week, I get a three day weekend the following. I always get this in writing, and they agree. I have another six day work week coming up and I am getting paid $500 to sacrifice a weekend day. They can make their requests, but so can you. And if you own it, they'll either rise to the occasion and grant you what you want or leave you alone. But never give anything away for free because I assure you they are not gaining $0 for your extra effort.
7:10 Okay are you paying me more for that? I don't care if the company lives or dies. If it succeeds you get the benefits, not me. Want extra work, pay more
It is give and take. I'm fine with working an hour extra in time of need, even unpaid. As long as the company gives me the same flexibility if I want to leave work an hour early at a more relaxed time.
@@valarmorghulis4801 And? My life isn't a production by committee. I set the agenda, I call the shots, don't like it, cry about it Secondly, last I checked, the US won the cold war, not the USSR. We work for money. If you want work done, give me money. If you wanted free labor you should have fought harder for communism
Older people have been griping about younger people since time immemorial. Generations following their own are described as too cautious, too dangerous, too worried, too self absorbed, and yes, too lazy. From the 4th Century, Aristotle noted the young, “think they know everything and are quite certain about it”, that youth, “are high minded because they have not been humbled by life, nor have they experienced the force of circumstances”, to a French magazine in 1771, “a race of effeminate, self admiring, emaciated Fribbles”, to an author in 1925 describing young people as, “grossly thoughtless, rude and utterly selfish”, to a 1951 description of “pampered youth”, to Boomers who are, “whiny and too politically passive”on down to Millennials and generation X er’s who are reportedly, “phone addicted, self obsessed, hash tagging, snap chatting, kale munching, twerking, lazy, whining, ill informed, politically correct, cosseted narcissists, who find absolutely everything mortally offensive and believe there is 165 ways to sexually identify”. In other words, all generations are a product of their environment and circumstances of the world that shaped them. Yet somehow, we manage to survive.
I think the point is that this is a singularly critical moment in human evolution due to the integration of mass technology into civilian life, and just like when the printing press was invented there was a huge severance of norms and values between the people who came before and afterwards. The older generations may look on in scorn, but they genuinely do not seem to be grasping just how fundamentally the human experience has changed for their children and grandchildren, and the downstream effects of the new world imprinted onto them. These kids are not acting the way they do because "kids always rebel", in my estimation they are acting the way they do because their are floundering and have no idea how to make sense of the world that their elders not only opened the door to without much oversight, but pushed them through that door and said "go apply the lessons we've taught you" - only the lessons and norms passed on were only really applicable to the bygone era.
Im a gen z I don’t show up to work like I average 2-3 absences every week with no calls but still I got promoted from software engineer to becoming a System Integration Engineer for GD
Why does every generation feel the need to bag on the generation behind them? Gen Z are too young to have any genuinely problematic issues or even a real sense of generational identity yet. If you look back, these are generally the same concerns older generations said about Boomers, Gen X, and Millennials when they were young. Guess what...we all grew up and figure it out without civilization collapsing.
I worked with Gen Z, who told me I am ''millenial work slave'', and he cried, when he had to work three days at row , 8 hours a day. He cried himself into panic attack, then said he doesn't want to talk with customers, said he is quitting, got home, and then called five days after this and was very suprised he is no longer an employee...
@@aaronmatney866 He wasn't fired ''per se'', because We worked on a mandate contract. It's the kind of contract where you can quit overnight, without consequences and you are paid only for hours you worked. So when he said he is quitting, he got home and my manager was so nice he waited three days, before he told our office, that he quit. I know it is funny to comment without thinking, but sometimes that little thing called brain can be useful.
As a boomer, I admit I spent many years distracted and living aimlessly on the internet and social media. But my life changed when I started following my passion for financial research. To my surprise, I reached my first $1M return in my portfolio after 19 months of investing. Stay resilient and keep learning, it really pays off
Your mention of returns raises a question for me. how do you differentiate if it's a result of research or luck? It's clear that luck plays a huge role in investing
Consistent results aren't luck. Research was the challenge. But it led to Emily Ava Milligan, a top fund manager, her strategy made 319k into this and counting
Maybe the lack of resilience and stability is due to a disorganized developmental environment. Fractured families and broken communities, loneliness. This generation is reflecting the environment it was brought up in. What is there to be surprised about? Surely such strong, intelligent older generations could have predicted? In fact, there’s still time to save those 8 year olds.
You don't work hard to make your rich boss richer. You work hard to reach the goals you set for yourself. Your boss should recognize your hard work and if they don't, take your CV and go find a better job.
You don't have too. Just live outta garbage cans and sleep at the bus stop. I didn't know you thought working was to improve someone else's life. I thought working was to make money
You're right. It's the parents fault for allowing that instead of preparing them for the real world like, work. They couldn't leave the phones alone to have a job. They don't even put in effort to help around the house, let alone a job.
Tbh I don’t think we are less capable of handling stress compared to previous generations it’s just now a days you get bombarded with negativity everywhere you look meaning you can pull away from stress anymore. Can a rock stay rigid in water if the water is always moving? no. Can a rock stay rigid in water that doesn’t always stay in motion? yes.
When I was in my early 20s, I hated the way those later 30ers, early 40s looked at us, responded to us, treated us. They treated us like incompetent, lethargic, useless weidos. Now I'm in my late 30s & looking at the young men & women in their early 20s as incompetent, lethargic, useless weidos 😂. This is happening throughout the human history. The ideology battles between generations are inevitable. Development of technology & rise of different social ideologies happened during last 25 years have changed things drastically. I think the changed happened during last 25 years are much greater than the all changes happened last 150 - 200 years combined.
If you want to call us the weakest generation, that was once said for every generation, because advancements in technology has always taken strength off people at every stage in history.
I'm almost 40, been a Chef for 20+ years. The 20 something year olds are pulling standards down. They refuse criticism, don't learn from mistakes or experience, and remain in training mode their entire employment. The other industries I depend on like food purveyors are also going down in standards. This seemed to start in 2016
@@dim2389 yes but not entirely. All you need is a company that actually cares about its workers and everything will be fine. But the older generation doesn’t care so the workers are saying the same thing
@@dim2389 The inner passion in doing this. Almost literally everybody i’ve spoken with basically told me that they aren’t satisfied with life after the work they out in to achieve it, yet still say that they appreciate the fact that they atleast have something than nothing
We refuse criticism ,stupid and old rules that caregivers, parents or a whole society wants us to follow just because they simply don't work ! people today, the younger generation that we have today is probably the first one in mankind's history that dares to say no to abuse , stupid working places ,that want their time and efforts, basic human rights to be paid and respected, and so on. Period. besides this, why not trying a different approach ? cause if we do as mommy and daddy did and all the other old generations we already know the effects of all that, so why not trying something different......
I don't think Gen Z is the weakest generation. They are young and as children grew up more exposed to adult disillusionment compared to past generations. Gone is the era when adults didn't air their dirty laundry and allowed children to be children. Now, everyone and their grandmother has a platform and most platforms are used to vent and rant about unmet expectations and stress, and an entire generation had a front row seat from a young age. So, yes, Gen Z has more unrealistic standards and expectations but that is because they want to avoid the kind of tragic life they have seen posted about on SM by so many older adults. You have people complaining how they are not respected, documentaries and studies prove that although American work harder and are more productive they receive less compensation for their labor, and thought leaders (like Simon Sink) speak about how knowing your value and making sure you're where you are appreciated and not tolerated. The messages may not all synthesize smoothly--that takes time and experience--but they are not messages Gen Z invented. They are messages people of the older generations told them. At the end of the day, every "young generation" is a reflection of the world the previous generations made for them.
No, as a Zillenial please don’t stop there, create more platforms for creativity. I deleted my tik tok app because it took up too much of my time, and it wasn’t beneficial for me. But it’s helped some of my friends financially. It’s all about perspective and priorities. I can’t handle the algorithms of social media wether it’s Tik tok or TH-cam. I hate that stuff. So my focus is college & my studies. And that bs about us not being capable of keeping a job is ridiculous, I’ve kept a full time 9-5 job for 7 years straight in healthcare. Social media work is very difficult, people who don’t know how to work it say it’s lazy work etc. they’re just mad because they can’t make money like influencers do. Just do what makes you happy, check on yourself and your peers, take mental health day breaks, talk to professionals about your mental health concerns, and please just stay safe on these platforms 🫡
How does someone fulfilling their basic job requirements "raise" any question? As a high-performer and hiring authority myself, I'm well aware that not everyone has the desire to achieve in the same way I do, and that's OK! As long as the employees aren't missing deadlines or generally not getting their work done, I don't care because it doesn't affect me or the organization in any significant way, despite what a good corporatist would tell you. If I wanted more out of people, I should have rewritten their job descriptions before hiring them. I'm also tired of corporate apologists attempting to intellectualize their greed and self-interest as some kind of apocalyptic societal problem. Your blind ambition is not other people's yard/meter stick for measuring their own existence.
The difference is that a 20 year old in 1320 had the same kind of life as his 80 year old grand dad had in 1260. This merely reflected a difference in life experience, since around 1800 but even more so after 1900 that kind of symmetry has broken. We don't have a cultural and technological steady state within our lifetime at all. It changes every decade, and generations reflect that. That is what makes the difference now much more potent, and heavily reduces relatability of experiences over generations.
@@loydanderson-pak2586 I agree with you, I'm Gen Z and I don't understand why others of my gen hate on gen a, it's kinda stupid. Everyone was childish in their youth and in my book the longer you keep a young mindset the better for your health.
Exhibit A: skibidi toilet. How can any parent in their right mind let their kid even watch TH-cam? It’s unethical and sickening the kind of content kids consume. It rewires their brains from an early age and it shows.
My 21 year old grandfather took in his duties aged 21 and went to drive tanks in ww2...never returned home...left a wife and 2 kids behind. He wasn't a kid. Enjoy your latte
I would disagree on not staying in a workplace long enough . I don’t feel I have to stay at a job for 5 years to take away certain skills . I rather have different experiences in the same field so I have exposure and a range of opportunities. what’s the point on staying somewhere that’s going to cap my pay for a year ? When I can go to another job who pays $4 more ?
Currently facing that right now. I love my current job. But I think I'm going to bounce after 1.5-2 years. Why? Because people have been here 3/4/5 years and their salary hasn't increased. So why would I stay here and do this, when I can move an earn £10k extra by doing so? Experience is cool. But so is being able to afford things.
@@dovestone_my point exactly and the youngest Gen Zers are literally about to turn 13 so that tells you most of us haven’t even been in the job industry long enough to have that experience and those skills come with time.
I'm an X. And I can honestly say the last 5yrs or so I've found workplaces much more stressful whereby I've changed job once and am trying to find an alt job again. Before 5yrs ago I stayed in jobs because the workplace might have been stressful sure but it didnt seem chronically chaotic and on the edge of collapse.
That hoisting a sail in calm waters vs a storm analogy is brilliant. As a manager of both more experienced staff and younger Gen Z it’s exactly how I think.
Then you better hope that experienced staff works forever. Why should the new sailors stay waiting for the storm when you're gonna throw them overboard during one?
Exactly. And eventually ever Gen Z will be in the 40+ age group and they will certainly hope they are being paid more than the recent grad of 2043 who only has a couple of internships under their belt.
I don’t know that Gen z is weak. I do know they don’t care about things that most generations before them cared about. And that comes out in their work ethic. They are lazier because their outlook on life is more bleak than any other generation that came before them. They don’t see any value in putting in effort.
I totally get what these guys are talking about. It’s funny; I come at it from the perspective of someone working at a Gen Z-centric employer. We are actually chronically overstaffed right now because management doesn’t know how to forecast labor demand outside of busy season. So many of us sit watching CPE courses because there’s no work to do. But a lot of the Gen Z people are completely okay with it because they don’t have to do any work. And management’s idea for keeping people engaged is offering all these extracurricular activities like kickball, picnics, fundraisers for nonprofits, fantasy football, EDI groups, etc. It works for the Gen Z people, but I want to work hard and get fulfillment from my work (a feeling I’ve had in a past job, before anyone tells me my expectations aren’t realistic). But because management doesn’t spend enough time and effort on business development and I’m not allowed to sell new business at my level, I feel I’m stuck unassigned A LOT. It’s frustrating! And I feel it’s a situation for which the precise circumstances are created because our largely Gen Z workforce is not only willing but eager to not do any actual work.
En that happens exactly by the types of business just like you work. Don’t you see it. It happens right infront of us yet still the only thing we all do is point the finger to each other and NO ONE likes getting a finger pointed at them, so what do they do? Ignore it, insult them, belittle them. And then calling you soft but when gen Z give them this attitude back, THEY’re the problem. We can’t look at ourselves and say “we fucked up” cuz we already don’t heel from our mental illness. I’m tellingly you we need to look in the mirror before we can blame ourselves
@@Ouranos369 Full disclosure: I wrote this comment 8 months ago, and I am (thankfully) no longer at that employer. I actually did do what you’re suggesting; I significantly ramped up my working out while I worked at this employer and started taking the steps toward a career shift (i.e., researched a professional certification and started to get myself in a position to sit for that certification’s exam). I am currently one completed course away from being able to sit for that exam.
Hmm, not going to trash the Gen Z generation. This doesn’t serve anyone, isn’t an appropriate approach. Having nieces and nephews and stepkids who are all Gen Z, it comes down to parenting. I have witnessed tantrums of non-toddler children, attitudes of entitlement, unrealistic expectations of being catered to, being the center of the universe, being spoiled, whiny, manipulative, controlling, “fragile”, delicate, entitled, passive-agressive to very high degrees as a contant attitude and none of this from those that I share DNA with.
To understand GenZ, look to their parents who are mostly of GenX. Then all will make sense. GenX is the original latchkey, cynical, slacker, lost, doomed generation.
No. Gen X are the parents of Gen Z, get it right. I’m X-ennial. We had it rough with no parental authority, no authority figure during the day, we didn’t have controls on our location as there were no cellphones or Find My. We navigated solely and we grew wise for it. Now we are reaping the benefits as the strongest generation, carrying the weight of this country on our shoulders. 💪🏼 We are resilient.
@@driftking4AGE No YOU get it right. 1. Baby Boomers. 2. Gen X 3. Millennials (Also known as Gen Y) 4. Gen Z. 5. Gen Alpha. Google it. And dont come back around hurrrrr ...... till you act right. Wipper Snapper! And no you are NOT the strongest generation. Stop! Baby Boomers are stronger. And their parents were even stronger. BRO YOU GREW UP IN THE 80S!! GOH!! The Best Decade in American History!! EVERYTHING started getting easier in the 80s cause the computer chip and the computer was invented. Microwaves, cable TV, wireless communication, walkman radios, the COMPUTERRRRR.... Star Wars, etc. Man we even had mega hit TOYS back then!! Even CANDY were mega hits back in the 80s. Everything changed in the 80s. EVERYTHING! Everything TODAY is because of 80s original inventions. Put it like this. The 80s was just like what Gen Z is going through now. A paradigm shift in technology. But without all the happiness. What Gen Z needs to learn is to MAKE STUFF FUN and stop whining about everything that requires them to TRY a little harder! They got everything too easy and dont appreciate what they have. Wasnt no UBER in the 80s. You have get out there and pound the sidewalk to get a JOB. Wasnt no FREE music to download. You paid for EVERYTHING! Wasnt no WORLD LIBRARY in your back pocket that tells you want you need to know in 30 seconds. NOOOO! You went to the Library and read 3 BOOKS to get that one piece of info you needed. BEFORE GEN X? Everything was even HARDER. Gen Z ??? STOP WHINING!
I think it’s important also to realise (I’m Gen X btw) that these kids resent work because they’re working ‘for nothing’. Had I known I would have got stuffed whenever I got close to success or had the rug pulled on bonuses and promotions after working my ass off I would have done less too. Boomers, Gen X, even early Millennials, we believed that hard work paid, and for a thin slice it did, and even for us to some degree (I own a house), but what the hell are they working for? Home ownership is out of reach, the gap between rich and poor is wider than ever - they see the exploitation and they won’t stand for it. Good for them in most cases. However, as an employer, one who really will reward hard work, I find it frustrating when I face this attitude because I don’t cheat people out of bonuses, salaries and promotions. But I’ve got a small pool of people to pick from because no one wants to work a minute more than they are paid for and many do sub par jobs. A good employee today is a bad employee 20 years ago. If someone shows up on time and isn’t constantly sick - that’s my bar now!
I think you older people just like suffering. You believe people must suffer and be unhappy else you're not doing it right. That lady at the big tech company is so lucky to be part of a company that values her and makes her happy at work, my life must not revolve around work. Working on a saturday is bad work culture, we have lives! You want people to work on saturday but you dont mention overtime payment, am I the CEO? please.
American work culture ... I'm 51, worked full time since 16 and full time as per my contract is 09:00-17:00 Mon-Fri, if work want me to work overtime then they have to give me reasonable notice, so a few working days at least, they can ask, but I can say NO ... Seems to me America expect way way to much of employees.
The problems with younger millennials born 1990-1999 and older Gen Z after 2000 or 2005 were more likely to not handle the stress in a workplace environment because i noticed when I was under preforming at due to staffing shortage and too must workload too i never give up until i got fired too.
@@dovestone_ The definition varies but generally 1995/96 to 2011/12 everywhere I have seen the years mentioned. 1997 sounds fine but 2021 is definitely not right. Maybe it was just a typo but wanted to clarify.
I was Born in 1988, so im a Millennial, i had 3 Jobs till i found the right job, eating dirt for years, i was as a soldier in Afghanistan for 6 month. And gen z Kids say their life is hard... Most of them get worse ptsd from words then we got from getring shot at.
@@nokap3038 very depressing, i get tree Times your money and dont have to bend a Finger for it, everyone pays me Respekt due to my Service in Afghanistan while at the same time i have zero trouble with ptsd and a family that loves me. While u have to throw soupe on a picture for people to notice that ur exist. I think from us two, its your life that is depressing
@@RealEvilLordExdeath I’m an artist and going to turn pro for boxing soon and might switch to mma cause I have some pro options overseas lol, I worked physically harder than u ur whole life
No. Gen X are the parents of Gen Z, get it right. I’m X-ennial. We had it rough with no parental authority, no authority figure during the day, we didn’t have controls on our location as there were no cellphones or Find My. We navigated solely and we grew wise for it. Now we are reaping the benefits as the strongest generation, carrying the weight of this country on our shoulders. 💪🏼
I totally agree about the pay rate. That's right more experienced people know what to do in various situation or emergency, hence the higher wage and it has been earned. It seems that a certain group of people has a problem with it. Although, I have had younger staff under my wing that have stepped up to learn and to show up (not just come to work) to be better everyday: and yes they got a raise because they earned it.
"The edges of the boundaries are fuzzy." No, by the definition of the word, they're concrete. If you disclose in a job posting that some night/weekend availability might be required, then that's one thing. The employee signed up for that. But if you expect people to just drop what they're doing and rearrange their lives for you, that's a problem. I'm not Gen Z, but I'm also pretty well aware that the only thing "going above and beyond" in corporate America gets you is taken advantage of. The corporate ladder is broken, there's such a thing as "too valuable to promote", company loyalty really only goes one way, and the people that job hop make a bunch more money than people that stay put. These CEO and cringe corporate guru types need to realize that a job is pretty purely transactional for most people anymore. Actually, it probably always was, but the younger generations are the only ones actually being honest about it. Can't properly motivate your workers to volunteer for extra tasks? Experiencing a bunch of turnover? Problems attracting new talent? Expectations not properly set and communicated? Those are all failures of leadership. These people are bosses though. Different things.
It's a product of a current societal culture that tells young people 'You don't have to deal with anything at all that you don't feel like dealing with.', and a reality that absolutely doesn't match up with that and will never match up with that. I used to do first round interviews where I work, and what so many resumes of young people had in common was a whole lot of jobs, all of them lateral career moves, and not one character reference from any place they ever worked. The last time we were hiring we had 350 applicants for 20 new growth positions, because it's an awesome place to work. If that was your resume, you didn't stand a chance. And if they did interview, many interviewed very poorly, because they showed up believing they didn't have to be prepared. They believed they were 99% of the way hired because they showed up to the interview on time. Society has also bred that generation to all believe they are each special, which is actually something that is fantastic. Everyone should be raised to believe they are special and destined for big things if they put their mind to it. But many have taken that to mean 'center of the universe', and believe they are the most important person in every room they walk in, in every job they apply for. Yet they have not yet cultivated qualities that suggest they deserve the distinction. It never occurs to them there could be other humans that may surpass them at anything. They've reached adulthood and many are now demanding consideration and respect in every single aspect of their life, from every single person in every room they walk into by default because they got out of bed this morning. This, rather than commanding respect through action. And when they don't always get that respect, it's a shock to the system that understandably can really hit someone hard mentally when they've been raised to believe the real world isn't what it is. They aren't steeled for rejection and resolve to push forward from it, because societal culture has raised them to believe they should never be rejected.
I don't think we can blame any one generation for the problems we are facing now. The main issue I believe is the world changed too fast and society couldn't keep up. Technology has changed the game so much at work and at home, and the state of the world largely reflects the impact of it. Not to mention everything has been slowly going down hill after economic rise of the baby boom. So many things contribute to the train wreck we see today. Humans didn't evolve to live like this and it is slowly killing us, physically and mentally.
I’m sorry, I’ve always been open minded about anyone “different from me or my generation “. However, my experience with this generation has been absolutely horrible. Absolutely no work ethic, play games, flirt and believe that they are “entitled” to do as they wish…even in the workplace.! I know that I should not generalize but Sometimes I want to cry when working with them 😢
Quiet quitting is not bad, from where I'm sitting... sometimes that all your employer deserves!! I talk from experience... my boss is so toxic, that I went in full blown breakdown a few years ago. Why haven't I quit? Well, the salary isn't bad and comes with benefits... now that I'm a mother, my priorities have shifted, I for me to be a good mother for my children, and stay stable so I could raise them as strong individuals, I'm only doing the bare minimum at my job, because my boss taught me that she doesn't deserve my broken mental health!!
I think theres also a split on gen z itself. I was born 2004 and an only child and throughout my childhood, iphones didnt exist, most i had was an ipod; ipads didnt exist. So i grew up with toys, tv shows, books to go to sleep with etc. and schools didnt use technology like they do today either. I never took a device to a restaurant, i had colouring pencils sure but i was present. I grew up without devices and when they got introduced i was like 10 so enjoyed them but didnt depend on them I feel like the gen z kids born after iphones were developed are almost a completely different generation in a way. They grew up with ipads, iphones, the devices doing the parents job on alot of occasions. So many kids born now and the younger side of gen z, are at restaurants with ipads, and scream if you take it off them. I also see a shift in parenting as a whole. People dont tell kids off now. I do NOT agree with hitting or screaming, but naughty steps or taking phones away, sure. Now alot of kids have control of the parents which doesnt help anyone.
Well that’s sorta where the term”iPad” kid comes in. I was born in 02 and the mannerism that I had growing up are completely different than everyone born after 06. Sure I was only probably like 4 when they were born but I was still able to develop certain skills that’s they never seemed to fully grasp, like not needing to have a phone 24/7, or just being able to go outside, meeting people in person and engaging in conversation, pretty much soft skills. And as I got older I grew with technology but not on technology which is kinda a superpower that early gen Z has most of us are proficient in using technology, we can figure out things mostly without a manual telling us how. With regards to parenting we’re sorta like the test subjects of the new age, our brains were able to soak in information faster than any other generation because of the internet, we’re more aware of what’s happening outside our communities than we are with our own(not necessarily a bad thing) and I strongly believe that it’s not that we don’t want to work, it’s not that we are poorly raised I think it’s more of a “if I’m gonna be fucked I might as well enjoy my fucked up life” no other generation knows what it’s like to be 10-14 wake up and at a tap of a finger hear about all the awful things happening. We hear so many negative stories that I think we are discouraged, our futures seem bleak, prices are raising but not wages, buying a house seems like a fantasy, climate change is a huge problem, the political climate is an issue, relationships with other countries are weak, etc. and on top of it all it doesn’t seem to be getting better, we have no power rn to make a change, leaving the feeling of helplessness all too real.
The gen z employees I’ve dealt with are not afraid to quit because they are not afraid to live off their parents. So many of them have been coddled and pampered by their mummy and daddy way beyond age appropriateness. Call it what you like and take your pick from a dozen reasons but it all adds up to the same thing: work ethic zero
Omgosh I noticed this same thing when my daughter at the time 19 started working at a Target on evenings couple of hours 2-3 days a week while she went to college during the day she would come home everyday after work always claiming that was her last day😂 I would ask wow sit down come tell me what happened (with an imaginary bowl of popcorn) and she’d go on and in about they are so annoying they are so mean they r so demanding I thought wait are we talking about your supervisors managers? And she would say no they’re all cool we get along great but it’s the customers!!!!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂needless to say I and her grandparents would give her our good old “when I was a kid” work ethic spiels and the kid caught on quick she started as you state with a whole lotta false or over presented confidence but had to go through ups and downs good and bad and weather the storm she became one of the night supervisors who would close the whole store and the.l. The morning supervisor who would open the store for business everyday alternating between those two and eventually full time and I’m so proud of her she worked through the pandemic and handled it with some hardships she did get sick but thank the Lord she only had a mild case (my heart goes out to the ones who didn’t ❤🙏as my husband passed away 2020 stroke😢🙏♥️)but she did all of this while finishing her classes as well to be a child psychologist and she is still currently working there since 2018 and has since bought her first car, gotten engaged then married and is now expecting her first baby my first grandchild so they do learn I feel like it just takes a lot of hard work on our part as parents and family and I’d much rather had put in more time while they were young but I too was a working parent so I made the mistake out of guilt to kind of try to make life easiest as possible for them as kids which is a no no big huge mistake I think a lot not all but a lot of us parents do that out of guilt for our poor choices in life we tend to feel guilty and we think we r making up for it by not allowing them to struggle but we do more harm to them in the long run I think once I went back to the biblical way of rearing as my grandparents did spare the Rod spoil the child that was a world of difference as well and with my younger ones I have cont that same and I pray 🙏 ❤they too will show same work Ethic ❤
I think strength comes from strong,loving family .not all the weirdos on social media.too many poor people floating on the wind with no one to hold them safe.kids need both mum and dad.love this channel.💙uk
The problem with this premise. is that. Usually every time you switch jobs you manage to get a raise. And more often than not. The constantly switching worker is getting SIGNIFICANTLY MORE pay than the stay in the company for 5 years employee. So staying to weather the storm usually doesn't land you more pay at all.
The risk-taking attitude of GenZ is at another level. I'm a millennial and I have learned a lot from some of my younger friends who belong to GenZ. I also disagree with Sinek here on the hiring trends. 5 years from now, if there's no stigma on quitting, might as well the trends in hiring would change where employers wud be concerned more about what value the employee brings to the organization, even if its for a short term, through her/his skills.
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I’m 25 I’ve had over 20 jobs it’s not hard to find a new job 😂😂😂
Generations don't raise themselves. The shortcomings of today's generation reflect the incompetencies of those who came before. Want better kids, be better parents but I guess that's too much responsibility.
Give custodies and children back to fathers
you hit the nail in the head
Word!
Exactly. Boomers.
Blaming all your shortcomings on your parents and last generation is incredibly insecure and ironically lazy
They said the same thing for millennials. Now they pick on the generation z. Companies do not value loyalty.
Just look at covid and the amount of people that were laid off. I had a colleague, who had stayed 13 years in the company just laid off.
That is true.
And just the same, employees are allowed to seek other employment whenever they wish. That mutual freedom is part of the deal. You can't just cry about it when it's in your disadvantage.
You thought you could hide behind boomers and gen x hating on millennials forever and you are so...made of glass...you Karens... I... 😂😂😂😂 hahahaha
Your turn. Your turn. You hid btw. 1 day apart from late millennials a lot of you and you got to point at us as we were the scapegoat, are the scapegoat. Do not complain. Kiddo I graduated 2008 and got blamed for what Boomers and Xrs did to destroy the world.
tru but millennials didnt snort condoms or chew tide pods lol
Imagine how Simon's generation looked to his grandparents and parents. A generation that relied on electronics and fast food, who has it easier than any other to get a house and still managed to be a generation burdened with debt with no financial control and frivolous spending. A generation that discarded and wasted things at the drop of a hat. A generation that thought working in an office was hard work and they had to have a 5 day week.
Gen Zs have witnessed how 'the grind' and loyalty to employers left their parents overworked, underpaid and struggling to keep mortgages during the crash. Parents that weren't around but had little to show for it and we're discarded at the drop of a hat.
I am Gen X. Born 1970.
Started working, full time, on a Soviet oil rig when I was 19.
I started working on oil rigs during summer breaks in High School, at the age of 15.
Gen Z are absolute PUSSIES. They are SO weak, that I cannot stand having them around.
Heck, I cannot even stand seeing them! 😂
I made good money, bought my first apartment when I was 20. My first house when I was 24.
Worked hard, saved money, and now I own several, income bringing houses.
GEN Z will rent for the rest of their lives. Because they are weak and lasy.
I used to work in a company where GenZ’s attitude has been a godsend! The employer did not value their employees extra effort to the degree where going up and beyond became the expected norm, without the benefit of extra pay. Few GenZ quick quitters showed that we can indeed just tell them to show it. I think only 10% of staff remained, seems like everyone has changed their jobs within a year time!
Sure...I ran a small business and gave raises left and right to everyone who actually worked without being baby sat. About 5% of your gen got one because they didn't know basic things, had no worth ethic, and no critical thinking. But hey, those gender studies degrees are great if you want to work at a strip club.
I totally get what you're saying about the employers not valuing their employee's, makes sense, however, many of the so called Gen Z's mainly quit because they have weak parents like me who give them what they want so they don't be mad at us. Somewhere to live is important and they live with their parents these days and talk shit about jobs cause they don't pay rent. If they didn't have the luxury of laying up in their parents apartment or house all day, they probably wouldn't have the same attitude and then maybe figure out ways to make things work at these jobs when problems arise instead of quitting. Just a thought, but maybe they will lead us to something better ultimately, only time will tell.
@@JustHustle919 hmmm. I think that it actually belongs to that time and age. When you are in beginning of your career you ideally want to try different things that work for you and for that you have to experiment and experience. I wouldn’t be so harsh on kids these days. I have been through countless little jobs myself, I tried working with my hands, went to assembly line for some weeks etc. I even managed to get myself homeless for a month… Thanks to that experience I became resilient responsible and loyal employee. I know how to from all those little mistakes and trials and errors I did before I finished schools. I think that older people tend to forget their young years way too quickly and many of them idealise themselves in their memories. Today’s GenZs are product of that specific time and experience. Yeah, ‘weak’ parents may not prepare you for tough discipline, but you never know, if they had been stronger, it might have gone south in a different way 🤷♂️.
Anyways, young people should be left to do young stupid things and older adults should be guidance and role models to them (which they rarely are).
There is an another dimension to that. Millennials are kids of boomers, so we have lots of traits that stem from how they are. GenZ are kids of Xes, so the same flies. Xers held Millennials to the standards that would probably not be issue for GenZ and vice versa… 🤷♂️ Maybe problem is in people who judge others by their impossible standards 🤷♂️
You think most gen z have a choice to stay at home? Your disconnected from reality@JustHustle919
@@JustHustle919 bro I'm gen z i always quit for more money, I got to my current employee and demand a raise if not I have another by next week, pack my stuff and blocked their numbers life goes on, theres no such thing as burning bridges.
I am a gen z and I am 25. I think our generation lacks the mental strength to deal with difficult situations. Instead of addressing the problem, most gen zs turn to weed, the bottle or a device. My dad told me, son you are the only person who can solve your problems. Actually, he encourages me to keep going on because I wonder how life would be if he gave up. Most gen zs lack suitable father figures people who can motivate and inspire them to keep going on when things get tough.
@PyschicVision2 indeed nothing new
You are zillennial actually
I have a gen z neice, and her boyfriend is also gen z... thank god those two kids break the stereotypes of typical gen z's... they are bad asses. he is a cool guy who wrestles in college, and does physical manual labor, she came from a poor family and decided on her own to turn her life around and be the first person from her biological family to get a bachelor's degree. she's currently a junior in college with only $5k in student loans
Well what’s funny is A, each generation is a reflection of the one that raised it. So it’s funny hearing all this complaining from the people that raised us. When they shit on us, they’re really shitting on themselves, which they will never admit to as narcissism and lack of accountability seems to be their biggest trait, shocker.
And B, most of us are entering university, or finishing high school. So of course we don’t have the answers. That’s like saying “yeah Gen Alpha are a bunch of pussies, such poopy pants they have like basic elementary knowledge and get scared easily”. Yeah, cause they’re literally kids… Like who are you trying to impress by proclaiming knowledge superiority over a generation you have 20+ years on?
It’s also, again, funny how their first approach is to point and judge, rather than reflect on themselves and imagine the other perspective. It’s constant projection, without the bravery to admit the world doesn’t owe you anything and that you indeed fucked up majority of your life. That would take self accountability, a down to Earth mindset, moving on from empty promises and facing your fears.
Either way for better and worse these older generations that have shaped and lead this world into being what it is (for better or worse) are slowly dying off or are simply retiring (lol that won’t exist for us) so we’ll get to find out soon enough just how great and wise the fruits of these older generations truly are.
Ultimately, most will be lost and confused, majority will fall into the lower end of society and very few will become extremely rich. We will most certainly regress, however, there’s a chance that from all that chaos, a lot of the fundamental truths of life that have been suppressed or outright silenced/rejected will be forced upon us, and those hardships will ultimately shape us for the better.
We are after all in hard times due to being led by weak people. These hard times will forge strong people, and strong people will create good times once more. My only hope is that enough of my peers will be conscious and humble enough to recognise past mistakes, and not let good times create weak people again.
Gen Z weak humans
I'm Gen Z and i'm working on Christmas day for $14.70 an hr. I don't think that's weak. That's just underpaid
What do you do?
Back than my first job was waiter
For just 3hrs $300 i was 15years old working with a fake ID.
My next job at 17
$10 at the mall
Than McDonald’s $7.50 I quit on 4th day.
My next job
was mexican store $8. Hr i stayed there the longest im talking about in 2015
The next job Dental assistant
$10 hr I hated it lasted 3M
The next job $13 hr same Dental assistant at different job
Now I obviously make more. But moral of the story i had to work my way up back than. I’ve noticed some (Not all) but some Get started at $15 even fast foods be paying more for a degree 📜. I just find it upsettin. Everyone mostly everyone want the easy way now. Theres nothing wrong with wanting it easy but it also shows how this world has evolved in just 9years. Best advice i could give out start your own business thats the only way to make more . It also takes hard work
@@anidania12salback than that was actually good money. Try surging now and days with that garbage pay
@@MyrnaDeJesususe to be an overnight stocker in college, thank god I’m not. It’s not worth the pay to work on a holiday even though they pay overtime for working on the holiday. Hard workers don’t get recognized for going above and beyond especially stocking a whole section of the store while 3 employees call-in. Only managers are acknowledged for their “leadership”🤨 and regular employees get replaced every hiring period, sadly.
Maybe work harder, be smarter and you'll make more money. All I hear are excuses from your generation. Gen meme
We're the younger generation so of course we are weaker in the eyes of the older generations. It's always been that way.
Young, dumb, and emotional.
U guys are weak 😂 yall complain about everything. Most gen z cant even handle constructive criticism.
@@BLACKOUTBOYSENT what's "constructive" in your comment?
Gen Z is weak because my generation (gen x) has been weak parents. I'm tough and strict on my kids (23 and 15), it's paying off now. All of my friends have 'princess boys', that's what I call them. And the girls are even worse, little narcissists.
Literally the same with every new generation for decades and decades
Every generation seems to think the generation or two that come after them are weak, entitled, doomed to failure.
As a 41 year old, it's true; Zoomers suck at doing stuff compared to me. But I've had 20 years of head start to figure things out.
If I were to be overly cautious, I might think it will take 20 years to know for sure, but history shows us that, far from being weaker than us, the generations that follow are just a few shades better than the preceding ones. And if it turns out that they really are weaker, then the responsibility for their weakness falls on us.
I have 20 years to make sure they are better than I was at 41.
Definitely. Our “weakness” at least in my dumb inexperienced opinion is we can see what happens all across the world, and our own countries. We see corruption, shady businesses and how governments refuse to do anything. We lose motivation because of this
I'm a Millennial I remember watching Simon Sinek say the same thing about my generation always focused on the negatives but never the good now he's doing the same thing with Gen Z 😂😂
You think that’s bad in the 80s they said the children had no future and wouldn’t be able to be leaders of this country
I mean... we are weaker... physically..
at least in that regard. I mean T-levels have been dropping for decades and we are seeing it in men especially how it negatively effects them.
@@DatAsianGuy we can't know what their supposedly lower testosterone levels mean in context. It may be that a Baby Boomer, under the same exact circumstances that Zoomers are growing up in would have even lower "testosterone levels".
And what good is the testosterone-level metric? It is possible that higher testosterone in the current environment would be detrimental to the fitness of Gen Z, not helpful. It is possible that low testosterone is not a hard attribute, but is adaptive, such that Zoomers may have the exact same potential for testosterone-level as previous generations. It may be that Zoomers physiology is slightly different, maybe because there are more Asians or Hispanics or Blacks or Eastern Europeans, etc. in the makeup or just as a result of genetic drift.
It is a flawed argument to assume that some generation in the past was a paragon of human existence. We can regress. We can progress.
I'm not Gen Z but damn I'm proud of them. It's not weak to stand up to people that profit on your silence and say enough is enough. It's not weak to look at the status quo and say no I'm not doing that. It's weak for two wealthy middle aged men to sit around and judge a generation of people that might not even own homes because we let banks buy them all.
Protect this man at all costs 🎉
Your comment explains why they think Gen Z is weak.
That's not what Gen Z is doing.
Welcome to the human condition snowflake. You're welcome to start your own business and see how 16 hour days feel.Oh, and banks screw everyone. All the time.
@@Victor-it6bv how?
im 35, so millienial. I dont have much contact with gen z but i imagine a lot of what they deal with is similar to us, in that any work we do profits us absolutely nothing. when youre doomed to poverty the likelyhood of bailing gets pretty high
Yassss
This is so true, we're literally working for the end of the world
Why do ppl insist on a society where the expectation is we work (at work + commute + preparation + after hours) more than we do literally anything else including sleep and spending time with loved ones. And free time for most ppl can’t even be fully enjoyed because of the stress and energy drain that modern work produces
Because otherwise you’d be the woods making/hunting your food and working on fixing your own stuff with no help from society or have any of the comforts of living in that society. No AC or plumbing. No cell phone or any internet access. Societies aren’t free, they require labor and time. People forget that.
@@BloomingFireHeart I'd argue the ultimate society provides everyone's needs for free. Either we get there or it collapses and we start over. Honestly, I'd rather do all of my own manual labor because at least in the woods, once I build my shelter it's mine and I don't have to pay someone for it. Instead of going to the grocery store, I'd spend an hour hunting. And guess what? I could just chill for 3 days (that's how long one deer could last) so your argument is invalid. This society is corrupt and falling apart slowly. The wealthy are just figuring out how to control us when it does. Also, our society is built around PROFIT which is why everyone CAN'T have things for free. Cause greed.
Or we realized that actual labor means nothing unless you own it. That’s where the “entitlement” stereotype comes from because we think after the hard work we put in we deserve it.
Yeah, they also don’t wanna accept this
Yeah and most jobs will steal from you if they get the chance. Tough world nowadays
This is what I was saying in another comment. Gen Z tend to be more self-aware about worker exploitation, there’s a huge increase of anti capitalists in the younger crowd. They prefer to “worker smarter” and “not harder”. There’s also a major shift in values with these generations. Genz tend to value travelling, fun and lived experiences (which makes sense as a younger generation of people) in an economy where we probably can’t afford to feed a family or to own a home, we prefer to work for those experiences. Less and less younger people are inclined to work towards “settling down” or building a notable career. We just don’t value the dream that these older gens do or did.
What hard work lol? Never seen any of you actually work..
Own it? Most of you havent even tried to work decent work, let alone got into school for business.
Some twink sellout youtuber shilling you 39.99 a hour classes on "dropshipping" doesnt mean you own a business kiddo lmao.
The entitlement statement comes because of whiny statements like yours here. You want all the reward, for none of the work. World doesnt work like that Ipad baby, cry about it lmao. Notifs are off, good luck replying
Man, after having a few gen z coworkers he hit the nail on the head. It’s wild. The “fake confidence” is insane. It’s ok to not know stuff, it’s ok to try hard and work hard, it’s all ok.
Hate to break it to you but "fake it till you make it" isn't a phrase invented by Gen-Z.
@@j3in725agree, its very millennials
@@j3in725 ok? What’s your point? They may not have invented it but what exactly does that have to do with my statement … GenZ is very much the Instagram generation, as long as it appears good it’s fine. Don’t bother backing it up with anything else.
To me Gen Z has no depth.
If you are trying to teach them something they get the jist of it and think they know something when they actually don't. So infuriating and frustrating.
Gen z and many millennials are not taught that failure is ok or that not knowing something is socially acceptable.
Guys, we don’t need to suffer. It shouldn’t be a normal thing.
No one can avoid suffering though. Best thing to do is to develop the ability to cope and to bounce back stronger.
The alternative to having no suffering at all is just nothingness, void. There's no way around this.
In life there is no short cuts, admit it, don't fight against it and you live peacefully... life is designed that way, before to bright you gotta go through darkness ✨️
These younger generations were not allowed to be angry and confrontational toward each other. It is “unacceptable “. Being taught that from a young age impacts how the brain wires itself to respond to conflict and uncomfortableness.
Bingo!
Be nice 😂
Yes, they were all raised by women.
Women raise weak, soft, incompetent men.
Their mothers and female teacher made them weak.
Simple as that.
That's one of the many reasons that that generation is doomed. Have you ever talked to a gen z, they are seriously really really strange, not to mention they look really really strange.
@@seekingfreedom9020 Says the drug addict lmao
There is nothing wrong with gen z or any generation for that matter. They aren't more immature, theyre just young. This is just the older generations realizing they got old.
perfect ^^
That is a nice deflection. Gen Z's strength is deflecting any responsibility for their own issues.
@@inttruders Clearly you don’t know what the word deflection means. You just heard someone use it in an argument once and you thought they won.
@@ca8824 Ill try to use smaller words that you can understand next time.
@@inttruders and those issues are? being inslulted by people like this very video, calling them weak, teachers that rant on the internet about how stupid their students are instead of correcting their mistakes and help them catch up, which btw it's absolutely possible, oh and let's not forget, their huge issue of only respecting exclusively people who respect them back and no one else, that seems to be the real "issue"
I am a millennial and I truly understand gen z. They are really smarter than we think and understand the world more than we do. They don’t have that work hard play hard mindset like we do. They have the whatever happens happens and honestly that’s how life should be. We shouldn’t spend our lifetime trying to control the uncontrollable.
I wish they are still happy when they are in their fifties, when the horizon of ending comes closer, they still feel so nonchalant as they are today? Only time can tell.
@@happyface730Deep dark depression or a normal ass life. Gen Z is more normal than you think, at least coming from a small conservative community in northern Wisconsin. Plenty of kids graduating early and working full time at 16. Plus all the lgbtq and black folk got bullied!
Disagree. They are actually quite vapid and lack intellectual depth. They are empty and lost.
Is it specifically Gen Z we are talking about or is it a combination of Gen Z and Millenial? How can you reasonably expect a 25 year old (the maximum age of a Gen Z) to have over 5 years experience at a workplace when you don’t finish college/university till you are 21/22 and even longer for some degrees. To me it really just depends on the person you can get people of the boomer generation far less resilient than those in Gen Z and vice versa, every generation has their own challenges and it seems every generation likes to criticise the next but realistically it makes no sense to automatically generalise a person based specifically on what year they were born in.
Because the real world straight up works differently than that. You're talking about a person, 7 years after turning 18, that doesn't have 5 years of experience. So they were in college and not working, and also without subsidized payments. 49.8% of college students go for 4 year degrees, but without working and paying for at least a portion of their classes? 24.9% of college graduates earn associate’s degrees, also without working and paying for at least a portion of their classes?
I pretty sure gen Z starts at 97, so we're 27 yo now (26yo at the time of your comment), 5 years of experience is unlikely but possible if you include internships.
Life is not about work. Just because people are so used to the idea of a wage base slavery, doesn't mean it has to be like that for eternity. I actually admire GenZ for realising that. As a millenial I have been pushed around one time too many which has led me to realise that I am not working for anyone but myself, anymore. You can call me weak, but I refuse to let other's ideas of how I should behave in the work force (it really is forced upon us) dictate my life.
But genz is obsessed with material & luxury world which needs money! How are they going to achieve that without work!?
@@Ananayat you seem to confuse child celebrities and the average Gen Z
Most people only go on their phone when they're not working anyway. Myself included. People are useless piles of crap myself included
@@AnanayatGen Z has 86 percent less purchasing power than the baby boomers had. Literally none of us can afford to live and buy a home. We could make 100k a year and still can’t afford to get by.
You are still working and still contributing to society through your work. If you want to live in a society then you have to work and contribute to that society. If not, then live in the woods with non of benefits of society. It’s work either way.
And as far as working on the weekends , Boomers didn’t really work on the weekends either . They were home with family after 5pm . Major corporations have increased their sales to make more profit and want us to do the labor or work for a few dollars out of millions and billions and Gen Z isn’t having it . Why work for you and make $200 a day when you made $10,000 and stay for 20 years . I think we care more about the work life balance more than just money .
Boomers worked all sorts of hours, all shifts. Many of them in manufacturing!
@@kimdelong3429 I agree-I worked 7 day shifts in the Care work and all sorts of long hours to cover . It was Duty .
If you look back through history people have always had similar thoughts about the younger generation.
Yes, while that’s true, this is radically different. These younger generations are slower and slower to mature, and they think they know everything. If you look at both the millennial and Zoomer generations, neither one of them have any great life altering inventions. Boomers created personal computing and the internet, GenX invented social media and much green energy, while the millennials and Zoomers only use this technology, and have nothing to show for inventing it.
@@troepvanerik5880 I agree as the younger generation,we need to find our own answers that won't happen until we are willing to do so. It's something humans do to be better.
@@jeremyevantaylor1724 Yes, I certainly have seen it happen as well. Social media has given us the idea that everything is happy go lucky. Which is simply not true.
The reality is something very different than social media and change in your lives depends on what you do to achieve that. Not by pretending to achieve that. I hope that we the younger generation can realise our worth and work hard to develop the quality of lives. It is in our hands.
@@jeremyevantaylor1724 Thankyou for your encouragement. I hope you're wrong as well. But, just as there are wrong and untrue ideas there are many worthy content creator in social media platforms. Depends on who finds what. Just like how I found this. I hope things turn around as well. Saying is easy but putting it into actions is the hard part. Hope it works out for me and everyone as well.
But this is true. Zoomers are on a complete other level.
Quiet quitting is the perfect response to the abusiv suffered by workers. No disruption to the employer just a reflection of what the employer thinks is a fair wage.
I am a gen-Z (22 years old) and I am always wondering why are we always crticized and this video is the answer. I don't feel to doing just my hours of work with a minimum effort but improve my skills and be proud of myself. I have some issues to control the stress, I am jobless, I Have a contract to make some internships (training periods) or prepare for a training period like updating my CV (resumé) in exchange of 500 € a month, I decided to take that while I am looking for a job. this is the best thing I could earn without a job so I do with it.
It's not our fault We've given up because our entire life we've been told that the world is burning humans are evil and we are insignificant
We believe we can't do it because that is what we've been taught
@@homecomingday dude I was literally raised being told I'm worthless unless I make others happy and that human rights are something you have to earn
Like quite literally the exact opposite of everything you just said
Wtf is going on here lol. Just start working, stop whining and get out there do something besides watch tik Tok or playing on iPads cause your parents used it as a pacifier growing up.
Yes. Do only what you're taught. Good sheep 🐑
@@valarmorghulis4801 bro doesn't understand that children will do as they are told because they don't have fully developed brains and are heavily effected by the environment around them
The bit about boundaries is a bit offputting. I would agree about having flexible boundaries on the basis of whether you want to help weather a storm. It's one thing to be invested in a project, an idea, a start up, etc and willingly push your boundaries to get something out the door. It's an entirely different matter to push your boundaries because your boss told you to do it, mandated it, shamed or put you in an ultimatum to do something beyond your boundaries. Much like the definition of full time work meaning different things for different ppl, I'm sure the definition of weathering a storm and what being resilient means will change overtime.
Just don't work there then. I'm an easy going dude that doesn't like high stress but I don't expect to be paid or received the same wage as someone who available 24/7. Some places smash the boundaries and demand the job is your life. Take a different job or sacrifice yourself for days, weeks, months or even years to get to where you want to be.
@@DavitofritoSure, but that’s not the message from this guy. He started this clip by saying quitting a job because you’re unhappy with it is a sign of weakness, which is asinine.
Yeah i agree with that
@eyespy3001 It's not asinine. Not everything is about happiness. The ability to whether discomfort is what builds resilience. It's something this generation lacks.
The shit these kids have had to deal with growing up in these last two and a half dumpster fire decades!!!!! You're gonna call them weak????
What shit lol? Everyone had to deal with it, Yes they are extremely weak.
Yes
Yes. They are weak as shit. Look at them wrong and they feel “offended”, or my favorite, their feelings are hurt.
Can’t blame it all on them, social media doesn’t help.
@@thenatureboy1837in their defense and I don't defend them a lot, growing up entire life with social media all around you while you're going through grade school I can only imagine would wreak havoc on mentality. And there's nothing they can do about that everybody has it
Mentally weak absolutely
Simon has a great point about boundaries. Being flexible with boundaries is a reflection of taking ownership and being accountable. It's a virtue, and cannot be thrust upon anyone.
It’s a reflection of being open to abuse by toxic people
@@msher33BINGO!
The younger generation frequently moving between jobs shouldn't be seen in a negative light as it gives people more experience in different organizations and industries thereby helping them find what they like and don't like and helping them grow. I think however even if there are things that you don't like or agree with in an organization, as long as it's not toxic and no amount toxicity should be tolerated, staying at a company and weathering the hard times with good for a time also adds to your experience, growth and help keeps your mind open.
Boundaries should not be blurry; they should absolutely be clear otherwise you get boundary creep and overtime becomes the norm. Many times, I've seen people asked to work overtime, pulled into a meeting at 5pm or asked to come in on a Saturday to finish a project. These people do not get fairly compensated, they don't get compensated at all, it's just expected that they'll be involved whether they want to or not. People have a life outside of work and therefore should be able to politely decline without repercussion. Fair compensation should also be paid for any amount of overtime in order to balance the playing field and make organizations think whether they really need that person to work those extract hours and also to incentivize performing a review to inspect and understand how we got here and how can we do better next time to avoid this. I think everyone agrees that the hoisting a sail example is a good one but then that person is out there on stormy seas, they should be appropriately compensated because they are out there doing the work, hoisting that sail in stormy weather and the organization should be asking themselves, how did we get out here in this storm? What can we do better next time to avoid the storm?
There is something we can all learn from those entering the workforce because they see things with fresh eyes and from a different perspective than those of us who have already been working for years. Rather than trying to maintain the status quo and to analyze and point out what the younger generation should and shouldn't be doing, we should be looking at ourselves with eyes open and asking what behaviors we can learn from them. If we still truly believe that the ways of the younger generation are no good, then we should look to ourselves as, one way or another, we have had a part to play in shaping their views and ideals.
Very well put. I especially appreciate what you wrote about the new workforce entering with fresh eyes. I think older generations have this mentality of “it is what it is,” that we’ve been stuck with for nearly 100 years. We’ve been told to endure and not be quitters for so long that we became wage slaves; an easily-exploited work force who were brainwashed into believing working hard and sacrifice were actually virtuous achievements. However, the veil has been lifted, and younger generations see this clearly not the case. It’s funny that a certain political group is trying to demonize the word “woke” because this younger generation is not asleep, believing the lie of the American Dream.
Based response.
Also, in regard to the boundaries having to be clear and hard-lined, it's as the saying goes, "give them an inch and they'll take a mile".
It’s fairly simple. Gen Z is hyper aware due to access to information at it’s fingertips. They are just more intelligent than previous generations it’s just a fact. They see the world for what it truly is and see there’s rampant corruption in virtually every mode of business that the previous generations have failed to address. At this point it’s a waiting game for them. Will the world end before I get to where I want to be? Or will they die off before then. Hence why you see a drastic difference between Gen Zers. Those who are super hard working/ambitious and those who are “doomers” the issue is a lot of them are doomers which is understandable if you understand how the world/politics work. It’s not that they aren’t resilient they just know the system is bullshit.
@@dim2389 In your twenties? That's late most of us in my generation were aware as early as 14 years old. Add on that no one respects young people unless they provide something, why should we care about a business or company loyalty? We only work for money that is it.
Sorry but that is absolute bullshit.
This is the type of mentality from someone who is defensive about their generation.
Yes, access to information is a thing. GenZ are digital natives.
But there is a huge fallacy in that.
Previous generation have the same access on top of life experience they already had.
People knew about corruption long, looong before the internet and social media. It is simple impossible to “address” all corruption, it will always be part of life.
GenZ are not special. There has been hard workers and lazy bums in every single generation. The difference is that GenZ grew up with the platform to be vocal about it. Same for every previous Gen as the internet is sth not exclusive to GenZ. They just don’t know a world before only after while others know both.
There is also no correlation between intelligence and the internet. Because the internet by kids and teens is primarily used for entertainment. People are definitely more native and fluent in digital information but not necessarily smarter. In fact, there seems to be a regression in general knowledge due to being consumed by social media and the desire to get approval of strangers. Of course, that can’t be generalized on GenZ.
But this whole “I am a teen or young adult and see the world for what it is, you don’t” doesn’t fly. It’s what a minority of every Gen thought at any point in time.
GenZ doesn’t have it easy. But nobody had. There was gens going through Great Depression and famine, poverty. True hopelessness. They will manage just fine.
Young people today probably lack an awareness of historical perspective more than any previous generation. The world is fucked up and corrupt, but FAR less fucked up and corrupt than it was for any previous generation. You have the highest standard of living over any previous generation. You have to sacrifice far less than any previous generation. Instead of seeing how everything has continually progressed for the better ... You don't have the historical perspective so you only see the now and hyper focus on any issue that is present. The things young people complain about today and their issues are so minor and trivial compared to the problems people had to deal with in the past.
@@smallgoonthat doesn’t make it better
You're not smart, technology is. It gives you the illusion of being smarter. Then again young people are always naive enough to think they know everything. People are much freer and much dumber. People have been known the system's corrupt but older and wealthier people hang on to power as much as possible. Plus late stage capitalism, it's ended up this bad by design. By the time us millennials are the older ones in power, things will improve, I'm sure. Def not perfect but imperfection is just human.
I'm 39 and my problem is younger people seem to rally against me.
Example for context: I was a manager at a fast food place (not to name, names) I got our drive through times down to 45 seconds per person average, I lowered food costs down to 4% waste, and got employee cost down by 2 hours a day times 4 people. I noticed people didn't want to work so I made a check list and divided it up evenly. Seems fair right!? Nope... they end up getting mad at me because, "They are losing hours". They weren't losing hours, they just weren't allowed to milk the clock. We closed at 10pm, we were out by 10:15pm. They used to get out at midnight milking the clock. I'm all about hours and working, but I can't sit at work for 2 hours milking the clock every day. They may have no lives when work is over, but I do. I hate working with Gen Z. They should just stay on social media, live in a cardboard box, and stay away from work until they can actually do the work. Let the people who want to work and do a good job, do so.
Speaking as an older zoomer (24), this whole country is gonna have to deal with the fact that my generation is smaller, and raised with fewer religious morals, and fewer cultural expectations, than any other.
Though ironically I've found is shockingly easy to surpass my older coworkers on co-ops simply because I make work about providing for my near-future family, and hence I work hard. That's not the norm, though if anyone is gonna be able to survive the upcoming economic depression, they gotta do it. We adapt or we die, and though I used to be a big quitter, I ain't a fan of dyin'
To understand GenZ, look to their parents who are mostly of GenX. Then all will make sense. GenX is the original latchkey, cynical, slacker, lost, doomed generation.
@@MarmaladeINFPI am genX and the cynicism is justified.
When we were kids we saw the destruction of social democracy, the rise of a culture of greed, the return of monopoly capitalism, the first house price spiral brought on by financial deregulation, deindustrialisation and the subsequent benefit culture which led to the demonisation of the working class. We saw the culture shift from arty and experimental to lowest common denominator mass market drivel.
We saw the commercialisation of counter culture, so nothing meant anything.
We saw the economic alignment of political parties which meant we couldn’t vote against the destructive neoliberal program.
And it’s all just carried on but worse.
So yeah I am cynical
As a 41 year old millennial who went through the 2008 financial crisis at the start of my career, I feel that quiet quitting is the best way to work now a day. Do your job and go home. If they want us to go above and beyond they can pay above and beyond. 2008 taught me we are all just a number and we are all replaceable.
I’m gen Z personal I don’t mind staying after work to help sometimes, however I don’t want to always do so and if on the off chance that I need to leave work early I don’t want to be met with resistance. Business/work is all about transactions if I give something I want something in return
As a gen X-er, I definitely started to see a bit of this when I was in school, which may be a big part of the puzzle. Somehow, public school teachers and public education generally, became increasingly fixated on eliminating all trauma - zero tolerance for bullying, hyper-concern for self harm, metal detectors and security guards, but also an educational culture that deliberately taught, as an integral part of the curriculum, kindness, tolerance, diversity, self-actualization, finding your true path, joy, bliss. Generally a supportive and gentle approach to education, but that needed to be enforced by constant gatekeeping and strict enforcement by authority figures, since lack of kindness or support for diversity of all types couldn't be tolerated. These sound great. Who wants intolerance, bullying or the psychological trauma that comes with it? For many, childhood trauma results in pathology. But, for many others, it manifests as adult resiliency. Eliminate childhood trauma and you eliminate the ability to contextualize and navigate future problems. Smooth sailing makes for poor sailors.
"Smooth sailing makes for poor sailors." Well said.
True, but most of these policies hadn't really been actualized until like mid to late 2010s. I remember like the no bullying campaign being started in my 5th-6th grade years, I agree, my generation has had some pretty smooth times, but there have been a few bumps and aches to counter them. For the most part I'd say that I have had a relatively normal childhood; I got bullied during late elementary and middle school, decided I had enough and joined the wrestling team in high school, and buffed up, then Covid hit and that kind of took a hit on my mental health, as I am a very obvious extrovert, but in the end I learned, yeah my generation has its issues, we've had maybe too much access to social media, but all and all, I think a lot of the issues we face are simply product of the time. We'll grow out of it, we are resilient, we just have to develop some communication skills to amplify it. Now I'm starting to enter the workforce and wrestling has taught me a lot about hard work and mental reserve, in the end we'll do alright.
No, YOUR world as the business owner with equity in your business may not stop on a Saturday. But it does and should for salaried employees who have lives outside of work. Work colleagues are not your family, they're team mates at best.
man these jobs don’t do anything for their employees
There is some disastrous survivorship bias going on in this conversation. All the judgements they're making are coming from what they see on social media, but most people are invisible through such a lens.
It shows that they haven't spent much time in their own large teams for a while. I've worked with dozens of Gen Z now, and it's...normal. Some come and go quickly, but most of them just get on with things like the rest of us.
I mean, I'm 22 and I do pretty well, but since there's so many people of my age just not working. It makes it even easier in a way to just go in and get what you want if you're willing to work. You can still get what you want, you're just gonna have to work just like everyone else.
most people our age are in college were getting degrees bro just give us a minute 💀
Haha, I totally agree. I am actually GenX, and there are so many GenZ that choose not to work. I’ll never have to worry about being out of work or finding a job. And many of the GenZ that does work, have no understanding how to proper condone themselves professionally at work, so they do end up asking the boss questions like in this video, because rather than ask their professional working parents how to approach that situation, they turn to the interwebs, and some troll living in their mother’s basement is giving them advice.
@@Burchie_nah, fr 😭
Also, Simon: boundaries = self-respect. You keep saying, “I know you’re scheduled till 5, but I need you to 6 this one time.” But we all
know, once you acquiesce, you’ll get asked again because the way they see it, you’ll put up with it. When I started my job years ago, my boss tried to get me to work six days a week about 2-3 times. After the third time, I refused. He never asked again. (I.E. boundaries)
Yeah, this guy is out here recruiting corporate bootlickers for HR.
I look at those requests as opportunities for leverage. With my own company I negotiate that if I do a 6-day work week this week, I get a three day weekend the following. I always get this in writing, and they agree. I have another six day work week coming up and I am getting paid $500 to sacrifice a weekend day.
They can make their requests, but so can you. And if you own it, they'll either rise to the occasion and grant you what you want or leave you alone.
But never give anything away for free because I assure you they are not gaining $0 for your extra effort.
@@lisaburke7506 This is the smart way to go. Many if not most people are not good negotiators.
This is disappointing. Blaming a whole generation seems like the easiest thing to do.
7:10 Okay are you paying me more for that? I don't care if the company lives or dies. If it succeeds you get the benefits, not me.
Want extra work, pay more
It is give and take. I'm fine with working an hour extra in time of need, even unpaid. As long as the company gives me the same flexibility if I want to leave work an hour early at a more relaxed time.
Y'all whole life is about relaxing
@@valarmorghulis4801 And? My life isn't a production by committee. I set the agenda, I call the shots, don't like it, cry about it
Secondly, last I checked, the US won the cold war, not the USSR. We work for money. If you want work done, give me money. If you wanted free labor you should have fought harder for communism
@@camadams9149 what about my comment made u say all that 💩? Did u read free labor? I literally was commenting to the guy above u.....calm tf down damn
Older people have been griping about younger people since time immemorial. Generations following their own are described as too cautious, too dangerous, too worried, too self absorbed, and yes, too lazy. From the 4th Century, Aristotle noted the young, “think they know everything and are quite certain about it”, that youth, “are high minded because they have not been humbled by life, nor have they experienced the force of circumstances”, to a French magazine in 1771, “a race of effeminate, self admiring, emaciated Fribbles”, to an author in 1925 describing young people as, “grossly thoughtless, rude and utterly selfish”, to a 1951 description of “pampered youth”, to Boomers who are, “whiny and too politically passive”on down to Millennials and generation X er’s who are reportedly, “phone addicted, self obsessed, hash tagging, snap chatting, kale munching, twerking, lazy, whining, ill informed, politically correct, cosseted narcissists, who find absolutely everything mortally offensive and believe there is 165 ways to sexually identify”. In other words, all generations are a product of their environment and circumstances of the world that shaped them. Yet somehow, we manage to survive.
I think the point is that this is a singularly critical moment in human evolution due to the integration of mass technology into civilian life, and just like when the printing press was invented there was a huge severance of norms and values between the people who came before and afterwards. The older generations may look on in scorn, but they genuinely do not seem to be grasping just how fundamentally the human experience has changed for their children and grandchildren, and the downstream effects of the new world imprinted onto them. These kids are not acting the way they do because "kids always rebel", in my estimation they are acting the way they do because their are floundering and have no idea how to make sense of the world that their elders not only opened the door to without much oversight, but pushed them through that door and said "go apply the lessons we've taught you" - only the lessons and norms passed on were only really applicable to the bygone era.
Im a gen z I don’t show up to work like I average 2-3 absences every week with no calls but still I got promoted from software engineer to becoming a System Integration Engineer for GD
Why does every generation feel the need to bag on the generation behind them? Gen Z are too young to have any genuinely problematic issues or even a real sense of generational identity yet. If you look back, these are generally the same concerns older generations said about Boomers, Gen X, and Millennials when they were young. Guess what...we all grew up and figure it out without civilization collapsing.
So this part of the podcast was used as a listening task in an English olympiad that I took part in, and it actually is so interesting.
I worked with Gen Z, who told me I am ''millenial work slave'', and he cried, when he had to work three days at row , 8 hours a day. He cried himself into panic attack, then said he doesn't want to talk with customers, said he is quitting, got home, and then called five days after this and was very suprised he is no longer an employee...
Yep.
They cry when fired.
Can't understand basic concepts of work or anything for that matter.
Can confirm, I was the panic attack. Once he was fired, everyone clapped.
@@aaronmatney866 He wasn't fired ''per se'', because We worked on a mandate contract. It's the kind of contract where you can quit overnight, without consequences and you are paid only for hours you worked. So when he said he is quitting, he got home and my manager was so nice he waited three days, before he told our office, that he quit. I know it is funny to comment without thinking, but sometimes that little thing called brain can be useful.
Who made us mentally ill. And who are our parents.
As a boomer, I admit I spent many years distracted and living aimlessly on the internet and social media. But my life changed when I started following my passion for financial research. To my surprise, I reached my first $1M return in my portfolio after 19 months of investing. Stay resilient and keep learning, it really pays off
Your mention of returns raises a question for me. how do you differentiate if it's a result of research or luck? It's clear that luck plays a huge role in investing
Consistent results aren't luck. Research was the challenge. But it led to Emily Ava Milligan, a top fund manager, her strategy made 319k into this and counting
I just searched for her name, and her page was the first thing that popped up. It's clear she's in high demand. Thanks for the tip
Maybe the lack of resilience and stability is due to a disorganized developmental environment. Fractured families and broken communities, loneliness.
This generation is reflecting the environment it was brought up in. What is there to be surprised about? Surely such strong, intelligent older generations could have predicted?
In fact, there’s still time to save those 8 year olds.
Why should I put my health on the line for some suit's 5th yacht?
You don't work hard to make your rich boss richer. You work hard to reach the goals you set for yourself. Your boss should recognize your hard work and if they don't, take your CV and go find a better job.
I mean you don't have to. Just don't complain when anyone doesn't want to sacrifice for you.
You don't have too. Just live outta garbage cans and sleep at the bus stop. I didn't know you thought working was to improve someone else's life. I thought working was to make money
It’s not Gen-Z’s fault that they were basically born into technology. Everything these kids do nowadays is all ONLINE or in some APP.
You're right. It's the parents fault for allowing that instead of preparing them for the real world like, work. They couldn't leave the phones alone to have a job. They don't even put in effort to help around the house, let alone a job.
Tbh I don’t think we are less capable of handling stress compared to previous generations it’s just now a days you get bombarded with negativity everywhere you look meaning you can pull away from stress anymore. Can a rock stay rigid in water if the water is always moving? no. Can a rock stay rigid in water that doesn’t always stay in motion? yes.
When I was in my early 20s, I hated the way those later 30ers, early 40s looked at us, responded to us, treated us. They treated us like incompetent, lethargic, useless weidos. Now I'm in my late 30s & looking at the young men & women in their early 20s as incompetent, lethargic, useless weidos 😂. This is happening throughout the human history. The ideology battles between generations are inevitable. Development of technology & rise of different social ideologies happened during last 25 years have changed things drastically. I think the changed happened during last 25 years are much greater than the all changes happened last 150 - 200 years combined.
If you want to call us the weakest generation, that was once said for every generation, because advancements in technology has always taken strength off people at every stage in history.
I respect Gen Z for not giving a shit, it will be their world soon enough and theres nothing we can do about it
As a milenial I can't wait :D
Hoist a sail in calm waters vs a storm. That hit me. Love it. Need it on a wall somewhere. ~3:15
I'm almost 40, been a Chef for 20+ years. The 20 something year olds are pulling standards down. They refuse criticism, don't learn from mistakes or experience, and remain in training mode their entire employment. The other industries I depend on like food purveyors are also going down in standards. This seemed to start in 2016
@@dim2389 yes but not entirely. All you need is a company that actually cares about its workers and everything will be fine. But the older generation doesn’t care so the workers are saying the same thing
@@dim2389 The inner passion in doing this. Almost literally everybody i’ve spoken with basically told me that they aren’t satisfied with life after the work they out in to achieve it, yet still say that they appreciate the fact that they atleast have something than nothing
We refuse criticism ,stupid and old rules that caregivers, parents or a whole society wants us to follow just because they simply don't work ! people today, the younger generation that we have today is probably the first one in mankind's history that dares to say no to abuse , stupid working places ,that want their time and efforts, basic human rights to be paid and respected, and so on. Period.
besides this, why not trying a different approach ? cause if we do as mommy and daddy did and all the other old generations we already know the effects of all that, so why not trying something different......
@@bebe8842 THIS IS IT. But due to many generational mentalities is this hard to understand for ALOT of people
@@DragonwaveOG 💯
Thats the boomerest talk of the day , thanks a lot
I don't think Gen Z is the weakest generation. They are young and as children grew up more exposed to adult disillusionment compared to past generations. Gone is the era when adults didn't air their dirty laundry and allowed children to be children.
Now, everyone and their grandmother has a platform and most platforms are used to vent and rant about unmet expectations and stress, and an entire generation had a front row seat from a young age.
So, yes, Gen Z has more unrealistic standards and expectations but that is because they want to avoid the kind of tragic life they have seen posted about on SM by so many older adults. You have people complaining how they are not respected, documentaries and studies prove that although American work harder and are more productive they receive less compensation for their labor, and thought leaders (like Simon Sink) speak about how knowing your value and making sure you're where you are appreciated and not tolerated.
The messages may not all synthesize smoothly--that takes time and experience--but they are not messages Gen Z invented. They are messages people of the older generations told them. At the end of the day, every "young generation" is a reflection of the world the previous generations made for them.
The resilience criticism seem stupid considering the oldest Gen Zs are only 25
Only? That's a grown adult
No. it's not bad. quiet quitting is simply doing your job. It's not a new concept. Only bootlickers did otherwise
From a millennial to my fellow citizens who are gen z; piece of advice get rid of tiktok.
No, as a Zillenial please don’t stop there, create more platforms for creativity. I deleted my tik tok app because it took up too much of my time, and it wasn’t beneficial for me. But it’s helped some of my friends financially. It’s all about perspective and priorities. I can’t handle the algorithms of social media wether it’s Tik tok or TH-cam. I hate that stuff. So my focus is college & my studies. And that bs about us not being capable of keeping a job is ridiculous, I’ve kept a full time 9-5 job for 7 years straight in healthcare. Social media work is very difficult, people who don’t know how to work it say it’s lazy work etc. they’re just mad because they can’t make money like influencers do. Just do what makes you happy, check on yourself and your peers, take mental health day breaks, talk to professionals about your mental health concerns, and please just stay safe on these platforms 🫡
aint bad an employee doesnt know what the company really wants, so its dumb to try your best without good support or guidance
How does someone fulfilling their basic job requirements "raise" any question? As a high-performer and hiring authority myself, I'm well aware that not everyone has the desire to achieve in the same way I do, and that's OK! As long as the employees aren't missing deadlines or generally not getting their work done, I don't care because it doesn't affect me or the organization in any significant way, despite what a good corporatist would tell you. If I wanted more out of people, I should have rewritten their job descriptions before hiring them.
I'm also tired of corporate apologists attempting to intellectualize their greed and self-interest as some kind of apocalyptic societal problem. Your blind ambition is not other people's yard/meter stick for measuring their own existence.
Man, the older generations have been hating on the younger generations since Socrates. Ain't nothin new.
The difference is that a 20 year old in 1320 had the same kind of life as his 80 year old grand dad had in 1260. This merely reflected a difference in life experience, since around 1800 but even more so after 1900 that kind of symmetry has broken.
We don't have a cultural and technological steady state within our lifetime at all. It changes every decade, and generations reflect that. That is what makes the difference now much more potent, and heavily reduces relatability of experiences over generations.
@@dekippiesip My original comment still stands
@@loydanderson-pak2586 I agree with you, I'm Gen Z and I don't understand why others of my gen hate on gen a, it's kinda stupid. Everyone was childish in their youth and in my book the longer you keep a young mindset the better for your health.
Exhibit A: skibidi toilet. How can any parent in their right mind let their kid even watch TH-cam? It’s unethical and sickening the kind of content kids consume. It rewires their brains from an early age and it shows.
But sometimes the criticism is fair.
Bruh. We literally kids
Gen z mug
Some of you are young adults.
Legal age.
Time to grow up.
@@verasmith4767 na cope we in college bozo
@@Burchie_ that would make you an ancient gen z. Dam bro you must have been born in the early 2000s.
My 21 year old grandfather took in his duties aged 21 and went to drive tanks in ww2...never returned home...left a wife and 2 kids behind. He wasn't a kid. Enjoy your latte
The mainsail in a storm analogy is **brilliant**
Coming from the generation that birthed, The Kardashians, The Swifty's, Safe spaces and gender pronouns.
Every generation has always said this about the next gen. Dont be that person.
I would disagree on not staying in a workplace long enough . I don’t feel I have to stay at a job for 5 years to take away certain skills . I rather have different experiences in the same field so I have exposure and a range of opportunities. what’s the point on staying somewhere that’s going to cap my pay for a year ? When I can go to another job who pays $4 more ?
Currently facing that right now.
I love my current job. But I think I'm going to bounce after 1.5-2 years. Why? Because people have been here 3/4/5 years and their salary hasn't increased. So why would I stay here and do this, when I can move an earn £10k extra by doing so?
Experience is cool. But so is being able to afford things.
Also seems like a stupid criticism when the oldest gen Zs are only 25
@@dovestone_my point exactly and the youngest Gen Zers are literally about to turn 13 so that tells you most of us haven’t even been in the job industry long enough to have that experience and those skills come with time.
@@dovestone_ My father was married, had three kids and veteran at 25.
I was on the board of directors of a local Union at 25.
25 is an adult.
@@verasmith4767 it’s definitely an adult but not an old adult
I'm an X. And I can honestly say the last 5yrs or so I've found workplaces much more stressful whereby I've changed job once and am trying to find an alt job again. Before 5yrs ago I stayed in jobs because the workplace might have been stressful sure but it didnt seem chronically chaotic and on the edge of collapse.
That hoisting a sail in calm waters vs a storm analogy is brilliant. As a manager of both more experienced staff and younger Gen Z it’s exactly how I think.
Then you better hope that experienced staff works forever. Why should the new sailors stay waiting for the storm when you're gonna throw them overboard during one?
Exactly. And eventually ever Gen Z will be in the 40+ age group and they will certainly hope they are being paid more than the recent grad of 2043 who only has a couple of internships under their belt.
I don’t know that Gen z is weak. I do know they don’t care about things that most generations before them cared about. And that comes out in their work ethic. They are lazier because their outlook on life is more bleak than any other generation that came before them. They don’t see any value in putting in effort.
I totally get what these guys are talking about. It’s funny; I come at it from the perspective of someone working at a Gen Z-centric employer. We are actually chronically overstaffed right now because management doesn’t know how to forecast labor demand outside of busy season. So many of us sit watching CPE courses because there’s no work to do. But a lot of the Gen Z people are completely okay with it because they don’t have to do any work. And management’s idea for keeping people engaged is offering all these extracurricular activities like kickball, picnics, fundraisers for nonprofits, fantasy football, EDI groups, etc. It works for the Gen Z people, but I want to work hard and get fulfillment from my work (a feeling I’ve had in a past job, before anyone tells me my expectations aren’t realistic). But because management doesn’t spend enough time and effort on business development and I’m not allowed to sell new business at my level, I feel I’m stuck unassigned A LOT. It’s frustrating! And I feel it’s a situation for which the precise circumstances are created because our largely Gen Z workforce is not only willing but eager to not do any actual work.
En that happens exactly by the types of business just like you work.
Don’t you see it. It happens right infront of us yet still the only thing we all do is point the finger to each other and NO ONE likes getting a finger pointed at them, so what do they do? Ignore it, insult them, belittle them. And then calling you soft but when gen Z give them this attitude back, THEY’re the problem. We can’t look at ourselves and say “we fucked up” cuz we already don’t heel from our mental illness.
I’m tellingly you we need to look in the mirror before we can blame ourselves
If you're unassigned but like to work why don't you take the time to invest in a passion project or a side hustle
@@Ouranos369 Full disclosure: I wrote this comment 8 months ago, and I am (thankfully) no longer at that employer. I actually did do what you’re suggesting; I significantly ramped up my working out while I worked at this employer and started taking the steps toward a career shift (i.e., researched a professional certification and started to get myself in a position to sit for that certification’s exam). I am currently one completed course away from being able to sit for that exam.
Hmm, not going to trash the Gen Z generation. This doesn’t serve anyone, isn’t an appropriate approach. Having nieces and nephews and stepkids who are all Gen Z, it comes down to parenting. I have witnessed tantrums of non-toddler children, attitudes of entitlement, unrealistic expectations of being catered to, being the center of the universe, being spoiled, whiny, manipulative, controlling, “fragile”, delicate, entitled, passive-agressive to very high degrees as a contant attitude and none of this from those that I share DNA with.
To understand GenZ, look to their parents who are mostly of GenX. Then all will make sense. GenX is the original latchkey, cynical, slacker, lost, doomed generation.
No. Gen X are the parents of Gen Z, get it right. I’m X-ennial. We had it rough with no parental authority, no authority figure during the day, we didn’t have controls on our location as there were no cellphones or Find My. We navigated solely and we grew wise for it. Now we are reaping the benefits as the strongest generation, carrying the weight of this country on our shoulders. 💪🏼 We are resilient.
@@driftking4AGE
No YOU get it right.
1. Baby Boomers.
2. Gen X
3. Millennials (Also known as Gen Y)
4. Gen Z.
5. Gen Alpha.
Google it. And dont come back around hurrrrr ......
till you act right. Wipper Snapper!
And no you are NOT the strongest generation. Stop!
Baby Boomers are stronger. And their parents were even stronger. BRO YOU GREW UP IN THE 80S!! GOH!!
The Best Decade in American History!!
EVERYTHING started getting easier in the 80s cause the computer chip and the computer was invented. Microwaves, cable TV, wireless communication, walkman radios, the COMPUTERRRRR.... Star Wars, etc.
Man we even had mega hit TOYS back then!! Even CANDY were mega hits back in the 80s. Everything changed in the 80s. EVERYTHING!
Everything TODAY is because of 80s original inventions.
Put it like this. The 80s was just like what Gen Z is going through now. A paradigm shift in technology. But without all the happiness. What Gen Z needs to learn is to MAKE STUFF FUN and stop whining about everything that requires them to TRY a little harder!
They got everything too easy and dont appreciate what they have. Wasnt no UBER in the 80s. You have get out there and pound the sidewalk to get a JOB. Wasnt no FREE music to download. You paid for EVERYTHING!
Wasnt no WORLD LIBRARY in your back pocket that tells you want you need to know in 30 seconds. NOOOO!
You went to the Library and read 3 BOOKS to get that one piece of info you needed.
BEFORE GEN X? Everything was even HARDER.
Gen Z ??? STOP WHINING!
@@driftking4AGE
Millennials
I think it’s important also to realise (I’m Gen X btw) that these kids resent work because they’re working ‘for nothing’.
Had I known I would have got stuffed whenever I got close to success or had the rug pulled on bonuses and promotions after working my ass off I would have done less too.
Boomers, Gen X, even early Millennials, we believed that hard work paid, and for a thin slice it did, and even for us to some degree (I own a house), but what the hell are they working for? Home ownership is out of reach, the gap between rich and poor is wider than ever - they see the exploitation and they won’t stand for it. Good for them in most cases.
However, as an employer, one who really will reward hard work, I find it frustrating when I face this attitude because I don’t cheat people out of bonuses, salaries and promotions. But I’ve got a small pool of people to pick from because no one wants to work a minute more than they are paid for and many do sub par jobs. A good employee today is a bad employee 20 years ago. If someone shows up on time and isn’t constantly sick - that’s my bar now!
I think you older people just like suffering. You believe people must suffer and be unhappy else you're not doing it right. That lady at the big tech company is so lucky to be part of a company that values her and makes her happy at work, my life must not revolve around work. Working on a saturday is bad work culture, we have lives! You want people to work on saturday but you dont mention overtime payment, am I the CEO? please.
American work culture ... I'm 51, worked full time since 16 and full time as per my contract is 09:00-17:00 Mon-Fri, if work want me to work overtime then they have to give me reasonable notice, so a few working days at least, they can ask, but I can say NO ... Seems to me America expect way way to much of employees.
The problems with younger millennials born 1990-1999 and older Gen Z after 2000 or 2005 were more likely to not handle the stress in a workplace environment because i noticed when I was under preforming at due to staffing shortage and too must workload too i never give up until i got fired too.
Gen z is 1996-2012
@@dovestone_ The definition varies but generally 1995/96 to 2011/12 everywhere I have seen the years mentioned. 1997 sounds fine but 2021 is definitely not right. Maybe it was just a typo but wanted to clarify.
@@joshualawson1579 oh yes deff a typo! I meant 2012 lol also yes I think it’s from ‘96 actually
No diffrence 98 2000 LoL
O my God.
I worked over time, double time .
Everyone has to at some times.
We were good parents. Son married a woman with"anxiety". They went low contact, then no contact. No discussion, just cut and run.
I was Born in 1988, so im a Millennial, i had 3 Jobs till i found the right job, eating dirt for years, i was as a soldier in Afghanistan for 6 month.
And gen z Kids say their life is hard...
Most of them get worse ptsd from words then we got from getring shot at.
Gen z is finished
Fuck a life like that depressing ass life
@@nokap3038 very depressing, i get tree Times your money and dont have to bend a Finger for it, everyone pays me Respekt due to my Service in Afghanistan while at the same time i have zero trouble with ptsd and a family that loves me.
While u have to throw soupe on a picture for people to notice that ur exist.
I think from us two, its your life that is depressing
@@RealEvilLordExdeath you have tree times the money but couldn’t use that tree times the money for some basic spelling and English classes
@@RealEvilLordExdeath I’m an artist and going to turn pro for boxing soon and might switch to mma cause I have some pro options overseas lol, I worked physically harder than u ur whole life
They also get mad when they are told they have to wait to be moved up to a better position. They believe they have skills before learning them.
Jobs pay employees the bare minimum they can. What’s wrong with employees doing the same????
Be good at what you do and negotiate for better pay and better everything.
What? Employees are paying....who? Did you read what you wrote.
@@Millieshin-yj5mb employees make money for their employers through their work. That is why they get paid.
@@msher33 So?! That's how the job market works! It's been like that since the first time anyone worked for anyone! You're now saying anything new!
@@Millieshin-yj5mb I’m explaining how employees pay the employer.
No. Gen X are the parents of Gen Z, get it right. I’m X-ennial. We had it rough with no parental authority, no authority figure during the day, we didn’t have controls on our location as there were no cellphones or Find My. We navigated solely and we grew wise for it. Now we are reaping the benefits as the strongest generation, carrying the weight of this country on our shoulders. 💪🏼
Yeah, Gen X are the helicopter parents and identity theory advocates that made the mess called Gen Z.
I totally agree about the pay rate. That's right more experienced people know what to do in various situation or emergency, hence the higher wage and it has been earned. It seems that a certain group of people has a problem with it. Although, I have had younger staff under my wing that have stepped up to learn and to show up (not just come to work) to be better everyday: and yes they got a raise because they earned it.
"The edges of the boundaries are fuzzy." No, by the definition of the word, they're concrete. If you disclose in a job posting that some night/weekend availability might be required, then that's one thing. The employee signed up for that. But if you expect people to just drop what they're doing and rearrange their lives for you, that's a problem. I'm not Gen Z, but I'm also pretty well aware that the only thing "going above and beyond" in corporate America gets you is taken advantage of. The corporate ladder is broken, there's such a thing as "too valuable to promote", company loyalty really only goes one way, and the people that job hop make a bunch more money than people that stay put. These CEO and cringe corporate guru types need to realize that a job is pretty purely transactional for most people anymore. Actually, it probably always was, but the younger generations are the only ones actually being honest about it.
Can't properly motivate your workers to volunteer for extra tasks? Experiencing a bunch of turnover? Problems attracting new talent? Expectations not properly set and communicated? Those are all failures of leadership. These people are bosses though. Different things.
It's a product of a current societal culture that tells young people 'You don't have to deal with anything at all that you don't feel like dealing with.', and a reality that absolutely doesn't match up with that and will never match up with that. I used to do first round interviews where I work, and what so many resumes of young people had in common was a whole lot of jobs, all of them lateral career moves, and not one character reference from any place they ever worked. The last time we were hiring we had 350 applicants for 20 new growth positions, because it's an awesome place to work. If that was your resume, you didn't stand a chance. And if they did interview, many interviewed very poorly, because they showed up believing they didn't have to be prepared. They believed they were 99% of the way hired because they showed up to the interview on time. Society has also bred that generation to all believe they are each special, which is actually something that is fantastic. Everyone should be raised to believe they are special and destined for big things if they put their mind to it. But many have taken that to mean 'center of the universe', and believe they are the most important person in every room they walk in, in every job they apply for. Yet they have not yet cultivated qualities that suggest they deserve the distinction. It never occurs to them there could be other humans that may surpass them at anything. They've reached adulthood and many are now demanding consideration and respect in every single aspect of their life, from every single person in every room they walk into by default because they got out of bed this morning. This, rather than commanding respect through action. And when they don't always get that respect, it's a shock to the system that understandably can really hit someone hard mentally when they've been raised to believe the real world isn't what it is. They aren't steeled for rejection and resolve to push forward from it, because societal culture has raised them to believe they should never be rejected.
Do you even interact with young people or you just ramble about them online?
dude, everything become this bad because older generation choose to cope instead of fight back
I don't think we can blame any one generation for the problems we are facing now. The main issue I believe is the world changed too fast and society couldn't keep up. Technology has changed the game so much at work and at home, and the state of the world largely reflects the impact of it. Not to mention everything has been slowly going down hill after economic rise of the baby boom. So many things contribute to the train wreck we see today. Humans didn't evolve to live like this and it is slowly killing us, physically and mentally.
I’m sorry, I’ve always been open minded about anyone “different from me or my generation “. However, my experience with this generation has been absolutely horrible. Absolutely no work ethic, play games, flirt and believe that they are “entitled” to do as they wish…even in the workplace.!
I know that I should not generalize but Sometimes I want to cry when working with them 😢
It's very sad to watch tbh.
You hit the nail on the head. It's ridiculous.
Quiet quitting is not bad, from where I'm sitting... sometimes that all your employer deserves!! I talk from experience... my boss is so toxic, that I went in full blown breakdown a few years ago. Why haven't I quit? Well, the salary isn't bad and comes with benefits... now that I'm a mother, my priorities have shifted, I for me to be a good mother for my children, and stay stable so I could raise them as strong individuals, I'm only doing the bare minimum at my job, because my boss taught me that she doesn't deserve my broken mental health!!
I think theres also a split on gen z itself. I was born 2004 and an only child and throughout my childhood, iphones didnt exist, most i had was an ipod; ipads didnt exist. So i grew up with toys, tv shows, books to go to sleep with etc. and schools didnt use technology like they do today either. I never took a device to a restaurant, i had colouring pencils sure but i was present. I grew up without devices and when they got introduced i was like 10 so enjoyed them but didnt depend on them
I feel like the gen z kids born after iphones were developed are almost a completely different generation in a way. They grew up with ipads, iphones, the devices doing the parents job on alot of occasions. So many kids born now and the younger side of gen z, are at restaurants with ipads, and scream if you take it off them.
I also see a shift in parenting as a whole. People dont tell kids off now. I do NOT agree with hitting or screaming, but naughty steps or taking phones away, sure. Now alot of kids have control of the parents which doesnt help anyone.
Well that’s sorta where the term”iPad” kid comes in. I was born in 02 and the mannerism that I had growing up are completely different than everyone born after 06. Sure I was only probably like 4 when they were born but I was still able to develop certain skills that’s they never seemed to fully grasp, like not needing to have a phone 24/7, or just being able to go outside, meeting people in person and engaging in conversation, pretty much soft skills. And as I got older I grew with technology but not on technology which is kinda a superpower that early gen Z has most of us are proficient in using technology, we can figure out things mostly without a manual telling us how. With regards to parenting we’re sorta like the test subjects of the new age, our brains were able to soak in information faster than any other generation because of the internet, we’re more aware of what’s happening outside our communities than we are with our own(not necessarily a bad thing) and I strongly believe that it’s not that we don’t want to work, it’s not that we are poorly raised I think it’s more of a “if I’m gonna be fucked I might as well enjoy my fucked up life” no other generation knows what it’s like to be 10-14 wake up and at a tap of a finger hear about all the awful things happening. We hear so many negative stories that I think we are discouraged, our futures seem bleak, prices are raising but not wages, buying a house seems like a fantasy, climate change is a huge problem, the political climate is an issue, relationships with other countries are weak, etc. and on top of it all it doesn’t seem to be getting better, we have no power rn to make a change, leaving the feeling of helplessness all too real.
@@raheimal-kaabah4499 I agree with this. The helplessness we feel is so true.
Waw
Very good comment!
The gen z employees I’ve dealt with are not afraid to quit because they are not afraid to live off their parents. So many of them have been coddled and pampered by their mummy and daddy way beyond age appropriateness. Call it what you like and take your pick from a dozen reasons but it all adds up to the same thing: work ethic zero
Facts tho
Omgosh I noticed this same thing when my daughter at the time 19 started working at a Target on evenings couple of hours 2-3 days a week while she went to college during the day she would come home everyday after work always claiming that was her last day😂
I would ask wow sit down come tell me what happened (with an imaginary bowl of popcorn) and she’d go on and in about they are so annoying they are so mean they r so demanding I thought wait are we talking about your supervisors managers? And she would say no they’re all cool we get along great but it’s the customers!!!!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂needless to say I and her grandparents would give her our good old “when I was a kid” work ethic spiels and the kid caught on quick she started as you state with a whole lotta false or over presented confidence but had to go through ups and downs good and bad and weather the storm she became one of the night supervisors who would close the whole store and the.l. The morning supervisor who would open the store for business everyday alternating between those two and eventually full time and I’m so proud of her she worked through the pandemic and handled it with some hardships she did get sick but thank the Lord she only had a mild case (my heart goes out to the ones who didn’t ❤🙏as my husband passed away 2020 stroke😢🙏♥️)but she did all of this while finishing her classes as well to be a child psychologist and she is still currently working there since 2018 and has since bought her first car, gotten engaged then married and is now expecting her first baby my first grandchild so they do learn I feel like it just takes a lot of hard work on our part as parents and family and I’d much rather had put in more time while they were young but I too was a working parent so I made the mistake out of guilt to kind of try to make life easiest as possible for them as kids which is a no no big huge mistake I think a lot not all but a lot of us parents do that out of guilt for our poor choices in life we tend to feel guilty and we think we r making up for it by not allowing them to struggle but we do more harm to them in the long run I think once I went back to the biblical way of rearing as my grandparents did spare the Rod spoil the child that was a world of difference as well and with my younger ones I have cont that same and I pray 🙏 ❤they too will show same work Ethic ❤
I think strength comes from strong,loving family .not all the weirdos on social media.too many poor people floating on the wind with no one to hold them safe.kids need both mum and dad.love this channel.💙uk
hating gen z for having their own agency?
Used to work with them. Their emotions stop them. Even other people's emotions stop them. Stopping is their greatest skill.
I dunno, I saw one lift like a bag with like a couple large text books in it once, you gotta be somewhat strong to lift that.
Grade A sarcasm 👌🏽
Where’d you work growing up ? A blockbuster ?
The problem with this premise. is that. Usually every time you switch jobs you manage to get a raise. And more often than not. The constantly switching worker is getting SIGNIFICANTLY MORE pay than the stay in the company for 5 years employee. So staying to weather the storm usually doesn't land you more pay at all.
The risk-taking attitude of GenZ is at another level. I'm a millennial and I have learned a lot from some of my younger friends who belong to GenZ.
I also disagree with Sinek here on the hiring trends. 5 years from now, if there's no stigma on quitting, might as well the trends in hiring would change where employers wud be concerned more about what value the employee brings to the organization, even if its for a short term, through her/his skills.