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I have a pair if Bose 701 series ii speakers. The setup has an interconnect cable that you connect the right speaker to the left speaker. It is missing. Can you please tell me the best way to create a 4 piece type of connection for this.
I searched for this by topic. 45-seconds in I'm like "I know this guy's voice". Another minute and I said "This sounds just like the guy from Cigar Obsession!" Then I saw the channel name, lol. So cool. Great video too, man. I'm making some cables this week!
I just made a set of wires today. I went a little farther though. I used 100% pure copper OFC wire with super flexible sheathing. I then covered that with braided tined copper for shielding after which I covered both with braided purple, (speakers are purple , I made those too) braided plastic sheath. I used pants and shrink tube on all joints. My connectors are also pure red copper with a special metal coating(?). I used the included set screws to fasten them and then heated them with a heavy duty soldering iron, soldering the wires in place also! I have the same auto strippers for many years!
Thanks mate, used this method to do cables for my 5.1 theatre setup. Pretty much same gauge amazon cable, same sheath/loom, plugs and shrink tube. The only different thing I did was to use a small amount of clear sticky tape wound around the sheath and cable to stop the ends from fraying as I slid the Y pants on. Was having a bugger of a time before that.
I recommend the BFA Z-type banana plugs soldered to the wire using a good quality silver solder. Additionally, select plugs without screws and containing the least possible metal. Large, clunky connectors aren’t necessary and serve no purpose and can actually be detrimental to the sound quality.
Good video. For others. Remember, there are no special wires in speakers or amps. Metal does not make distortion to any signal going thru it. If it did, my 440 Mhz. Ham Radio would not work.
I use solid core 10 gauge once their bent into place they are in place, wire fits great in those Speaker wire clip or twits down. Even use on my Book Shelf Speakers.
Not sure if you're still making cables but I need some! Just got some vintage equipment and need a pair of cables. Yours look great and I don't have the skills you have.
Banana plugs are nicer and more convenient. However, do they provide a contact (with speaker and amp) as good as just plain cables ? Any kind of losses with these plugs ?
usually doubling the cable, reduces the gauge by 3.. per cable producers' specifications, 12AGW can carry 20Amps with no issues @240ACVolts over 100ft. so that's that. :}
After I tried 24-cores braided speaker cable, no 2-cores cable can satisfy my ears. Even 6AVG -) When it's braided, it gives so pure dynamic!.. Even a 16-cores one for my turntable makes a big difference (but unfortunately it was made not a 50-60Hz hum tolerant). An only big disadvantage of a multi-core solution, is a time needed to assemble it. At least 3 hours for a pair (when you know how and what to make next) PS Pay your attention on specs of a heat shrink tube. For some applications you might need 1-to-3 or even 1-to-4 ratio to get a perfect transition from a big diameter to a small one. And it's better to put a cable sleeve on before you start to work on a second end of a cable. Especially if you use a combined plastic/textile sleeve. In a worst case you might need to cover the end with some heat shrink tube to make it smooth. By the way, there are heat shrink sleeves (to make it looks like a computer cable).
Great 👍🏽 info, For the rears/ceiling into the wood & drywall.... Will a 14 gauge be good Or stick to the 12g? And what parameters should length plays in?
It all depends on the impedance. It really has nothing to do with power. It's all about run length. Your wire should not be more than 5% of the speaker's impedance. So for an 8 ohm, your wire should not be more than 0.4 ohm. Unless you're running more than 80 feet, you won't need 12 gauge wire, assuming 8 ohm speakers. Check out www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm He has compiled more information about speaker wire than you would believe exists!
Great job man ! Made my own out of Audioquest supply they sound great with long grain copper and beryllium copper silver Bfa a lil exspensive though for 🍌 plugs though
I have a 1978 centrex by Pioneer turn table, radio w 2 lrg speakers. The wire w ends are missing. The plug looks like a banana plug but its straight , no curve. I don't know what I need or what will work. Can you help?
I have to use an RCA jack/plug because that's what goes to my sub-woofer (which also acts as my AVR). My question is - What is a good quality RCA jack/plug that can pair with speaker wire (14 AWG) that doesn't cost a fortune?
I don't do the sheath as I myself am someone who is very paticular when it comes to cable management, thus I do what I can to get the cable to not show at all.
When you consider that speaker windings are tiny diameters then what's the point of huge wire thickness. Has more to do with cable velocity and current than gauge. Normal 1.5mm mains cable will do in most cases. Don't waste money on special cables. Current gets straight to the end point. Whereas the frequency velocity of the cable determines the speed of each frequency along its length and loss.
Thoughts about using 4 conductor wire speaker cable? More specifically, I noticed that your LSIM 707s are Bi-Wiring capable, do you think using 4 conductor cable would have made a difference? I bought the Amazon Basics 12AWG Cable but considering buying a Bi-Wiring option instead
Using it to just twist together at the end is fine for just getting a little more gauge, if you need it for a long run. Biwiring does absolutely nothing.
I tried bi- wiring- manufacturer of speakers ( Rega) says it’s more likely detrimental than helpful. Agree, but what did help a bit was to remove the crappy steel stock jumpers, and install quality copper jumpers.
What nonsense. Unless you have one length 3m and the other a 100m, do a loop impedance test and you will see very little difference even between these two runs. Most home hifi has at most for stereo speaker separation 3m to 5m per channel left and right. These cables will sound as good as any costing much more.
Hi, I just came across your video. How can you make me some speaker cables? I cant find them online. I won a a pair of Dell tower computer speakers on an auction (32in tall by 3.5 in wide). They only show the black and red ports. No electrical component for electricity as other speakers have it. Not sure if they are duds and a waste of money or can they be used. I can send you a pic of the back of it. My intention was to hook them up to my HP desktop if possible. Please let me know as you seem to know your speaker business extremely well.
Computer speakers typically come with a power supply. One end goes into the computer, and the other end is an A/C adapter that plugs into your wall electrical outlet or a power bar. Although you indicated you did not see one, I would be inclined to double-check. Look to see if there is a tiny hole in one of the speakers that a power supply would normally connect to. If one of the speakers has a volume knob on it, you can be certain that you are missing a power supply component. Speakers that have volume knobs have their own amplifier built into them. There are 2 other possible power supplies to look for. Check to see if there is a battery cover on the speakers or a usb connection that would connect to your computer. If the speakers don't have a volume control button, and you can't find a hole where a power supply would normally go, then your speakers don't have a built in amplifier. This means that you will have to purchase a small amplifier. The back of an amplifier will have red/white or red/black holes that will connect via a cable(s) to the corresponding coloured holes on your speakers. Good luck.
Thanks for this video. I always sssumed that "high quality" speaker wires involved something special that would improve sound ir something. Now i see that those crazy expensive dedicated 'high end' speaker wires are just 12ga twisted pair with a bunch of aesthetic nonsense applied, capped off with, lol, banana plugs. I feel so much better about plain old 12 ga twisted pair with reliable - but tragically unfashionable crimped on spades. Now help me justify tjose guys who pay $100.00 a foot for that stuff!
Hi, I was delighted to watch your video. We have developed a great audio cable and we wanna invite you to review it. If you are interesting, please reply to us. Thank you
10 gauge is complete overkill, unless you are running across your house to a ridiculous length (like over 120 feet). 12 gauge is way overkill in most situations. 16 gauge is just fine for most, up to 48 feet, unless you're running low impedance speakers. Check out www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm for a full explanation, and an insane amount of information about speaker wire.
Have you ever researched what goes into wire gauge selection? I would be willing to bet that 12 gauge is waaaaay overkill for what you need. Main things are impedance of the speaker and distance of the run. For an 8 ohm load, 16 AWG will get you 48 1/2' and 14 AWG will get you 80'. Courtesy of this simple chart: www.cambridgeaudio.com/usa/en/blog/speaker-cables. Other sources will back the reasoning. You can double check the math if you want, but you gotta put those speakers really far away to need 12 gauge.
If you really want quality, choose banana or fork plugs to crimp, not to screw or solder. For example the Qed Airloc is an excellent product, it is a pity that they do not sell the plugs individually, arguing that the crimping can only be done in a workshop, with a special tool. Nonsense, crimping machines are not difficult to find.
Presentation OK but it only looks nice but high quality cables will not be. I tested a lot of studio cables - cheap ofc cables and it was always the same - poor. The cable must have pure OFC / OCC copper and low capacitance insulation this is secret!. For cheap systems OK. You don't have a copper foundry so you can only replace the insulation with Fep or Teflon :-)
The next video will be a sound test comparison between these and bare minimum 16ga regular wire. This shows you how you can make your own premium high end speaker wire yourself using some basic tools and the below supplies. Exactly how you construct them is completely up to you and your situation, there are endless possibilities.
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10 awg is bigger than12awg
I have a pair if Bose 701 series ii speakers. The setup has an interconnect cable that you connect the right speaker to the left speaker. It is missing. Can you please tell me the best way to create a 4 piece type of connection for this.
I searched for this by topic. 45-seconds in I'm like "I know this guy's voice". Another minute and I said "This sounds just like the guy from Cigar Obsession!" Then I saw the channel name, lol. So cool. Great video too, man. I'm making some cables this week!
Welcome aboard!
I just made a set of wires today. I went a little farther though. I used 100% pure copper OFC wire with super flexible sheathing. I then covered that with braided tined copper for shielding after which I covered both with braided purple, (speakers are purple , I made those too) braided plastic sheath. I used pants and shrink tube on all joints. My connectors are also pure red copper with a special metal coating(?). I used the included set screws to fasten them and then heated them with a heavy duty soldering iron, soldering the wires in place also!
I have the same auto strippers for many years!
Thank you. You were the only one I could find for my type of wiring. The screw ones with the hole going threw it.
Thanks mate, used this method to do cables for my 5.1 theatre setup.
Pretty much same gauge amazon cable, same sheath/loom, plugs and shrink tube.
The only different thing I did was to use a small amount of clear sticky tape wound around the sheath and cable to stop the ends from fraying as I slid the Y pants on.
Was having a bugger of a time before that.
Nicely done. Clear and complete explanations accompanied with good video images. This is one of the better how-to videos.
If you're a complete novice, this video is great! However. if you've done any wiring in the past, it's a little bit tmi.
I recommend the BFA Z-type banana plugs soldered to the wire using a good quality silver solder. Additionally, select plugs without screws and containing the least possible metal. Large, clunky connectors aren’t necessary and serve no purpose and can actually be detrimental to the sound quality.
Nicely done video. It was super easy to follow your links. Happy to know that you earned a bit of coin from my Amazon order. Cheers
Good video. For others. Remember, there are no special wires in speakers or amps. Metal does not make distortion to any signal going thru it. If it did, my 440 Mhz. Ham Radio would not work.
I use solid core 10 gauge once their bent into place they are in place, wire fits great in those Speaker wire clip or twits down. Even use on my Book Shelf Speakers.
You are like the Bob Ross of audio, so relaxing to watch :-)
😊 thank you
Very good video man. Made some cables myself but didn't turn out so great but cables do make a difference. Thanks
Nice. Do you still accept custom assembly?
Not sure if you're still making cables but I need some! Just got some vintage equipment and need a pair of cables. Yours look great and I don't have the skills you have.
Sorry no made enough :)
Banana plugs are nicer and more convenient. However, do they provide a contact (with speaker and amp) as good as just plain cables ? Any kind of losses with these plugs ?
usually doubling the cable, reduces the gauge by 3..
per cable producers' specifications, 12AGW can carry 20Amps with no issues @240ACVolts over 100ft. so that's that. :}
After I tried 24-cores braided speaker cable, no 2-cores cable can satisfy my ears. Even 6AVG -) When it's braided, it gives so pure dynamic!.. Even a 16-cores one for my turntable makes a big difference (but unfortunately it was made not a 50-60Hz hum tolerant). An only big disadvantage of a multi-core solution, is a time needed to assemble it. At least 3 hours for a pair (when you know how and what to make next)
PS Pay your attention on specs of a heat shrink tube. For some applications you might need 1-to-3 or even 1-to-4 ratio to get a perfect transition from a big diameter to a small one. And it's better to put a cable sleeve on before you start to work on a second end of a cable. Especially if you use a combined plastic/textile sleeve. In a worst case you might need to cover the end with some heat shrink tube to make it smooth. By the way, there are heat shrink sleeves (to make it looks like a computer cable).
Great 👍🏽 info,
For the rears/ceiling into the wood & drywall....
Will a 14 gauge be good
Or stick to the 12g?
And what parameters should length plays in?
It all depends on the impedance. It really has nothing to do with power. It's all about run length. Your wire should not be more than 5% of the speaker's impedance. So for an 8 ohm, your wire should not be more than 0.4 ohm. Unless you're running more than 80 feet, you won't need 12 gauge wire, assuming 8 ohm speakers.
Check out www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm
He has compiled more information about speaker wire than you would believe exists!
Nice. I'm a disabled vet. My apt. Av system. 3 cables 8ft. 1- 3 ft. 2- 4 ft...
Hey, can I attach these to a simple jack extension so as to connect the speaker to my laptop?
Tip: Cut the braided sleeve at an ANGLE!
Great job man ! Made my own out of Audioquest supply they sound great with long grain copper and beryllium copper silver Bfa a lil exspensive though for 🍌 plugs though
I have a 1978 centrex by Pioneer turn table, radio w 2 lrg speakers. The wire w ends are missing. The plug looks like a banana plug but its straight , no curve. I don't know what I need or what will work. Can you help?
Getting that stripper as soon as possible..I just need to find out what parts/cable i want..
Wow lovely cables
Do you sell them?
Thanks! Sorry, no, I don’t have any of the supplies left
I would like a few cables made...how can I connect with you to get them made?
very good vid man straight forward and to the point.
Thanks
Thanks for this.
Hey there, great video. Did I hear that you actually make cables for sale? If so, where is your store? Thanks
No store, and I don't make them anymore
What's difference between speaker wires and normal Electrical wire ? Can normal Electrical wire be used in place of them ?
yes. As long as it is wire that has multiple strands instead of one, so that it is flexible and doesn t brake inside.
Anything other than oxygen free copper is going to have big losses.
Quick question. Would the cable inside an HDMI cable, be usable as a speaker wire?
no
I have to use an RCA jack/plug because that's what goes to my sub-woofer (which also acts as my AVR).
My question is - What is a good quality RCA jack/plug that can pair with speaker wire (14 AWG) that doesn't cost a fortune?
I don't do the sheath as I myself am someone who is very paticular when it comes to cable management, thus I do what I can to get the cable to not show at all.
12 awg vs 14 awg... which one will be better for short distance of 4 meters per channel connection?
12 is overkill. 14 is perfect for your application
I have to do that to even approach the quality my buddy buys.
Nice job Brian
Thanks!
When you consider that speaker windings are tiny diameters then what's the point of huge wire thickness. Has more to do with cable velocity and current than gauge. Normal 1.5mm mains cable will do in most cases. Don't waste money on special cables. Current gets straight to the end point. Whereas the frequency velocity of the cable determines the speed of each frequency along its length and loss.
Bro what the heck are you even talking about theres no velocity involved in a speaker cable
Great video buddy. How much would you charge for a set.
Email me with what you want bryan@bgpictures.com
CO Guy Stuff ok great
Thoughts about using 4 conductor wire speaker cable?
More specifically, I noticed that your LSIM 707s are Bi-Wiring capable, do you think using 4 conductor cable would have made a difference?
I bought the Amazon Basics 12AWG Cable but considering buying a Bi-Wiring option instead
Using it to just twist together at the end is fine for just getting a little more gauge, if you need it for a long run. Biwiring does absolutely nothing.
@@COGuyStuff well said sir. Bi wiring does diddly squat👍 great job.
I tried bi- wiring- manufacturer of speakers ( Rega) says it’s more likely detrimental than helpful. Agree, but what did help a bit was to remove the crappy steel stock jumpers, and install quality copper jumpers.
Many of the reviews on this 12 gauge wire, say they are not to be used in walls and Attic
It has nothing to do with the gauge if it’s in wall rated or not. Just the jacket material. And mine are not in the wall
You should always have both speaker leads the same length, otherwise you have different impedances on the two channels.
Lol and it’s an absolutely insignificant amount
Dermot Cooper fake news
What nonsense. Unless you have one length 3m and the other a 100m, do a loop impedance test and you will see very little difference even between these two runs. Most home hifi has at most for stereo speaker separation 3m to 5m per channel left and right. These cables will sound as good as any costing much more.
Hi, I just came across your video. How can you make me some speaker cables? I cant find them online. I won a a pair of Dell tower computer speakers on an auction (32in tall by 3.5 in wide). They only show the black and red ports. No electrical component for electricity as other speakers have it. Not sure if they are duds and a waste of money or can they be used. I can send you a pic of the back of it. My intention was to hook them up to my HP desktop if possible. Please let me know as you seem to know your speaker business extremely well.
Computer speakers typically come with a power supply. One end goes into the computer, and the other end is an A/C adapter that plugs into your wall electrical outlet or a power bar. Although you indicated you did not see one, I would be inclined to double-check. Look to see if there is a tiny hole in one of the speakers that a power supply would normally connect to. If one of the speakers has a volume knob on it, you can be certain that you are missing a power supply component. Speakers that have volume knobs have their own amplifier built into them.
There are 2 other possible power supplies to look for. Check to see if there is a battery cover on the speakers or a usb connection that would connect to your computer.
If the speakers don't have a volume control button, and you can't find a hole where a power supply would normally go, then your speakers don't have a built in amplifier. This means that you will have to purchase a small amplifier.
The back of an amplifier will have red/white or red/black holes that will connect via a cable(s) to the corresponding coloured holes on your speakers.
Good luck.
Thank you
Correct gauge.... pure copper...are the only things that matter...the rest is window dressing
Nice
Thanks for this video. I always sssumed that "high quality" speaker wires involved something special that would improve sound ir something.
Now i see that those crazy expensive dedicated 'high end' speaker wires are just 12ga twisted pair with a bunch of aesthetic nonsense applied, capped off with, lol, banana plugs.
I feel so much better about plain old 12 ga twisted pair with reliable - but tragically unfashionable crimped on spades.
Now help me justify tjose guys who pay $100.00 a foot for that stuff!
I'd like to take you up on your offer to build me a pair of speaker cables. The question is: how do I contact you?
Sorry I stopped doing them a long time ago
Hi,
I was delighted to watch your video. We have developed a great audio cable and we wanna invite you to review it. If you are interesting, please reply to us.
Thank you
Sure - email me bryan @ bgpictures.com
Thought I was listening to David Letterman
Don't pay a lot of money for overpriced cables like Audioquest, Nordost, and many others. It's the best way to assembly a high quality cables. Thanks.
Royal cord
10 gauge is complete overkill, unless you are running across your house to a ridiculous length (like over 120 feet). 12 gauge is way overkill in most situations. 16 gauge is just fine for most, up to 48 feet, unless you're running low impedance speakers. Check out www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm for a full explanation, and an insane amount of information about speaker wire.
Have you ever researched what goes into wire gauge selection? I would be willing to bet that 12 gauge is waaaaay overkill for what you need. Main things are impedance of the speaker and distance of the run. For an 8 ohm load, 16 AWG will get you 48 1/2' and 14 AWG will get you 80'. Courtesy of this simple chart: www.cambridgeaudio.com/usa/en/blog/speaker-cables. Other sources will back the reasoning. You can double check the math if you want, but you gotta put those speakers really far away to need 12 gauge.
Nice looking cable though!
That is correct, it is more than I need, but also enough for future use. My speakers are 5 ohm.
Most home hifi is a minimal run per channel for stereo, 3m to 5m. Resistance on runs of cable this short is not an issue.
You didnt make the speaker wire you just put ends on
What do you want him to do go and mine the copper?
@@trashman8094 good answer sure if he thinks he can if not the title says making speaker wire
If you really want quality, choose banana or fork plugs to crimp, not to screw or solder. For example the Qed Airloc is an excellent product, it is a pity that they do not sell the plugs individually, arguing that the crimping can only be done in a workshop, with a special tool. Nonsense, crimping machines are not difficult to find.
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By the time you buy all the materials, you might as well just buy the cables already made....
For shorter cables, and if they look like you want, yes. For longer or totally customized appearance, much cheaper to DIY.
Less time explaining every option and preference. More time building.
my dad is using my account to watch this >:(
Presentation OK but it only looks nice but high quality cables will not be. I tested a lot of studio cables - cheap ofc cables and it was always the same - poor. The cable must have pure OFC / OCC copper and low capacitance insulation this is secret!. For cheap systems OK. You don't have a copper foundry so you can only replace the insulation with Fep or Teflon :-)
Thank You
Thank you