Not All Banana Plugs Are the Same - How to Install Sewell Plugs to Speaker Wire
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- Not All Banana Plugs Are the Same - How to Install Them to Speaker Wire
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Personally, I prefer using spade connectors at the speaker ends, and banana plugs at the amp end. I find spade connectors to be more of a secure fit, but when fiddling around the congested back of an AVR or a 5+ channel amp, I succumb to the convenience banana plugs offer.
Sounds like a great solution. I haven’t used spade connectors yet
You have to have a heavy duty plug to use with spade connector. Mine tend to be loosen after a month or so. Because a spade is not flexible (mine is a 2mm thick), and screws use a thread natural slope to loose. So, the wider a screw is, the less that slope angle is, and the less loosing force is applied. But it's not guaranteed that a manufacturer uses a small step thread with a big speaker socket.
Great video. Very informative. It’s a bit overwhelming especially being a beginner to all of this and you did a fantastic job with staying on topic and explaining everything in a concise manner.
I’m glad you found the video helpful
Sewell is the only brand I use anymore. Love their naner plugs
Sewell is a great company to deal with. I had bought the deadbolt style and decided I would rather have the 90° silverbacks, emailed them if I could do an exchange and they said no worries and don't worry about it two days later I had the 90 silverbacks in my hands. Used the deadbolts on my speakers and used the 90s on my receiver.
Awesome!
I have been using the same set of deadbolts for over 20 years. They last forever. Highly recommended
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Great video! I've used the deadbolt and ocelot types and personally prefer the latter. The main problem I have with all banana plug designs, however, is over time they become loose and easily fall out of the amp,, speaker connector, etc.
Even the self-locking design? Those you can tighten over time to make up for the slack.
Hey Youthman, I recently purchased the Best Buy brand Rocketfish. These cables have a pin that stick right into the wire casing, so no stripping of the casing needed. This is my first experience using banana cables. My speakers are making static pops intermittently, now I'm thinking one of the connections is off even though I made sure each one was tight and secure. What are your thoughts? Did I buy crappy plugs?
These plugs look very nice, but unfortunately what many people is reporting is true: The spring is just really a piece of golden metal simulating a spring. It's not the right kind of alloy, it doesn't recover its shape when compressed, so inevitably your connection gets loose. I don't want to call it a fraud, but come on Sewell, you gotta know something's wrong with your product.
I had bad experience with deadbolt, so I end up using the doble screw with flex pin to banana plugs and never had a problem with connecting and disconnecting speakers again
I'm not a fan of the spring loaded clips in the speaker cup because the contact surface area is only a knife edge so defeats the purpose of using any wire greater than 18 guage !
In addition, I have never seen them with an insertion hole big enough for any wire greater than 18 g.
Banana plugs suit all guages greater than 18.
Before monster cable came on the market, I was using 12 guage 10 A 240 VAC mains multi-stranded wire.
Thank you. This is very informative.
Hello there ,
I have a Marantz SR7015 and I bought banana plugs 4mm from Nakamichi and it doesn’t fits on my AVR it’s too big . Do you know what size of banana plugs fits on my system ?
Banana plugs are pretty standard size. GLS Audio, Sewell, Amazon Basics will fit Marantz AVR’s
You still must have those caps on
I have the same problem with the Nakamichi plugs. I thought it might be my Onkyo receiver at first.
I had the 12awg Sewell Silverbacks. Some of the worst cabling and banana plugs for the price they're charging. I personally won't buy or recommend their products. The banana plugs did not fit super snug in my binding posts. Sonically, the top end was closed off compared to other brands.
Interesting. What speakers were you connecting them to? They fit very snug in mine. I have owned a lot of banana plugs over the years and am of the opinion they do not alter the sound in any way. Not challenging your experience, but I would be curious if you would be able to identify them in a blind test.
@@Youthman I was using the Elac Uni-fi BS-U5's. I then purchased some AudioBlast 10awg that came with the BFA style bananas and they fit very snug and the highs opened right up. The Audioblasts cost about half the price of the Sewells. I'm now on the ML 60 XTi's with Mogami 3104's with beryllium copper LS4 bananas.
Can you give me the link to buy the pre-terminated cables. I need a pair of 25 feet speaker cables 1/4" to banana termination.
sewelldirect.com/collections/speaker-wire/products/deadbolt-speaker-wire-with-banana-plugs-12-awg
I used Sewell banana plugs first then moved onto Amazon basics and it was only when I purchased non-false economy cables I thought I'd upgrade my banana plugs too.
One thing I noticed almost immediately was how tight the fitting was. Unlike the previous mentioned banana plug. The latter needed two hands to install the Banana plugs. One to sturdy the speaker and one to actually do the pulling/pushing and unlike with the cheap ones, in and out with just a finger and thumb plus the sad thing is even the small finger and thumb is strong enough to pull/push it out of it's loose fitting.
Buy once cry once.
Very hard to tell which plug worked better. They are both priced about the same. I found Sewels to be loose, poor contact no spring to the tip.
The right angle type banana plugs are super useful inside my Atmos boxes. Using Monoprice's equivelant of the Silverbacks, I actually like the personal assurance with the tightening of these screws. But I get why it can be irritating.
That would be a great application for them.
I also love the double screw ones for better security without soldering
The double screw banana plugs are my favorite. Silver backs all day. They give me a piece of mind. Get a good phoenix screwdriver and you're all set.
I totally get it. They are more tedious but it’s once and done. 👍
@@Youthman I also run 12 gauge and they work great for the thickness. It's the only area of home theater I can go "overkill" with 😂
@@jtjumpshot I’ve always wondered if I would be able to tell the difference in sound with that type of cable, probably not because my ears are pretty bad.
But I’ll tell you what I can definitely tell the difference in, and that’s the new mm thin headphone cables vs the old curled, much thicker headphone cables that you never had to worry too much about! I think it’s disgusting the amount of corners they’ll cut just to save a few cents, yet still charge premium prices for trash! I hate this disposable world we live in.
youthman you need to get a set of self adjusting wire strippers. Just bought a Quinn set from HF and seem to work pretty good.
Thanks for the recommendation. I have had this pair for many years. I should upgrade because they aren’t very good lol
@@Youthman with how much gear you switch out those self adjusting wire strippers would save you time.
I do swap gear a lot but now I have the Sewell pre terminated speaker cables, I won’t be stripping wires anytime soon.
@@Youthman sewell for the win yet again
Thanks a Bunch🍌!
Im loving these flex pin plus!! These are great for in-wall/ceiling speakers.
I prefer whatever makes the most secure contact with the speaker wire, and for me, that's the dual set screw type. Yes, it's harder to install but super secure. The only thing better would be a soldered connection.
Thanks for the info, I can now connect my speakers with confidence, no more stalling.
I would love to get some cables that already has banana plugs already on there. Where can I find those at?
Sewell offers nice cables that are already terminated for you - amzn.to/4aAi3oB
@@Youthman thank you, I'll look into that.
Lol I just watched your older video on banana plugs this past weekend. I’m about to set up my theater for the first time was looking for some Youthman tips and tricks
Glad to help! Congrats on your new theater room.
Try Speaker Snap pugs . They are so easy.
8:28 I mean it's from person to person different, I have them and I watch this video because idk how to install them... I unscrewed the small 2 screws on 8 plug in under 2min :)
I do a lot 3d printing, computer building etc, so I'm used to holding a screwdriver :D
That’s great the point is you can install the other models much faster
The one thing I never get from most people is how much white wired insulation do you strip back if you were going to put on "pants". Is there a rule of thumb?. And also do you still use heat shrink?
Secondly, how much insulation do you cut off to install each type of banana plug?? I've seen some people cut off an inch, some people a quarter inch etc
Those are great questions. I have never used pants to create custom cables, so I’m not sure the exact length or what is recommended there.
For the banana plugs, you just want to make sure you don’t have bare wire, extending on the outside.
Great help , what is the wire striper brand, tks
i prefer the one with the big hole,,the ocelot.
I made my own custom speaker cables with Sewell Silver Back banana plugs recently. I also aded a Y pants to cover the wire and also added heat shrink to cover the plugs and make it so the convection wasn't so floppy loose with just installing over the bare wire. Takes a long time (for a 7.4. 2 system) but looks great and alot cheaper than buying premade ones. I only ram into issues when trying to find the best plug for use with my on wall SVS Prime Elevations which have very little clearance between the speaker and the wall. With 12 gauge write the bend/routing coming out of the speaker is difficult for cleatance. I tried right angle ones (don't work on the Elevations) and other types. Not easy. What are others using for the Prime Elevations on their height on walls?
Where did you get the "y pants" separators? I didn't even know what to call them and couldn't find them. Thanks.
Yassss! The video I have been searching for! ❤
I’m glad you found the video helpful
thanks great review
Amps and speakers are designed to accept bare wire. Unless you're always changing things around no reason for another connection in the circuit. JMHO peace
Nothing wrong with using bare wire. As shared in the video, the purpose of banana plugs is for convenience and organization. I am continually swapping out amps, AVR’s, and speakers so that are an absolute must for me.
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Wow Michael nice setup, I see you😎😎😎
Thanks Rodney. I’ll do a tour of the new office soon.
They also have the U shaped spaces / lugs available
Yes those are called spades. It’s a different connector than banana plugs.
What should I do if the flex tip doesn’t fit into the spring clip on the receiver? Is there a trick? Am I missing something?
Is it too thick or too long? If it’s too long, you could cut it to size.
@@Youthman too thick. I had to realllllly force it into the clip and even then it barely fit. It seems like the soldered end is too thick
I see. I’ve never had to use them myself. You might need to buy from a brand that has a higher gauge (thinner) wire.
The GLS audio locking banana plugs you reviewed 4 years ago are way better.... too bad they aren't available anymore.
I liked them as well. Was wondering what happened to the brand. Guess there wasn’t that much interest in them
I found out, the hard way, that banana plugs (most, if not all) do not fit in the "vintage" or "legacy" spring loaded speaker connections. You HAVE to use the pin type or bare wire.
In all the videos of audio connectors I've seen, nobody mentions that.
In all fairness, I didn’t know that until they sent them to me and I looked online to see their application. But then again, it’s been 30 years since I’ve owned a set of speakers that had the spring loaded connectors.
Oh, I wasn't trying to group your video with all the others I talked about. On the contrary, you DO mention the vintage and legacy equipment when reviewing those flex pin connectors. Which reminded me of my blunder, buying banana plugs for spring loaded connections a few years back.
(BTW, now I think I will purchase some of those flex pin connectors.) ;-)
No worries I did not take it that way. I was just trying to make you feel better that I didn’t know about them myself until they sent them to me lol.
@@Youthman Oh ok, LoL
And BTW, that "Star Wars" theme home theater you showcased; Wow!
I mean, WOW! Over the top.
It truly is the best in the galaxy. LoL
Exceptionally good video! Really well done.
Another minor good thing about the 90 degree angle plugs is that the speaker wire conceals a teeny bit more easily when you have the back of a surround speaker (wife thinks ugly) facing into a visible room space because on stand at end of couch.
Absolutely
Nice instruction video,I've been using sewell for years.Nice and simple and does the job well.Youthman just a reminder,Im still waiting for the full review on the Denon avr-x4800h,Stay well
Thanks Chris. I’m glad you reminded me because it’s still on my list of the 20 products I have in for review 🤣
I’m actually waiting to review it when the new MartinLogan system gets here. I only had three speakers from Definitive Technology with the Denon so it didn’t really have a full system to push.
Banana plugs are a game changer, especially if you have to move things or fiddle with different gear often.
Exactly! Took me a long time before buying my first set. Now I can’t see myself not using the em, especially for an AVR, processor and amplifiers
Big fan of banana plugs, especially how easy it is to install them. Just need your correct lengths of speaker wire. Think I had gotten some from Media bridge.
Me too. Been using banana plugs for over a decade.
@@Youthman not to mention the savings especially for beginners who might be watching. Pricey to have them pre-installed over doing it yourself.
For sure. They’re easy to install, so I don’t mind doing that myself.
Nice
Thanks Pedro
@@Youthman Very good video! Thank you from Australia.
Thanks a lot! So much information in a video, well clubbed! Keep going. Let me know if any good sites to order in India 🇮🇳 . I want to know about speaker types and the wire connection information video, request you to please accommodate in the upcoming videos
The best connector, by far, is no connector.
Now do banana clips vs soldered connection for stationary speakers etc. Compare price. Compare signal. Wonder why supposed 'AV' enthusiasts even consider anything else.
This AV Enthusiast needs them because of the various speakers, AVR’s and processors that I review each year.
Always had trouble finding good 🍌🍌🍌 plugs for my cables due to having 8 AWG... 😢
8 gauge is super difficult to work with. Any reason why you use 8gauge?
@@Youthman @Youthman Had the chance to purchase Graves 8 AWG cable from the 90s at £35 a metre from the original price of £300 a metre ( new old stock) yep super hard to work with and it's circumference is nearly 3.5 inches ...stupid I know 😕
Strike is fast yes, but not as fast as Speaker Snaps. Take a look at those.
I have seen those before. They look “cheap” and also pretty bulky.
Just moving the yellow lever up caused part of the plastic to snap off. Don't recommend
@@Youthman Yea agreed, they are a bit cheesy but if you are really in a hurry to set up something temporarily they are pretty good. I use them with cheap wire during experimental setup, then order higher quaility stuff say like Blue Jeans after I figure the lengths and pathways.
Just go wire to terminal. Just adding another link in the connection to go wrong. Avg person isn’t swapping speakers all the time.
If you never swap speakers, banana plugs aren’t needed. I’ve been using banana plugs for over a decade and have never had one issue.
Say no to banana plugs. If ya can. Solder speaker wire to the terminals.
I change out speakers often, I like variety! Banana plugs are the only way to go
Solder is fine if it’s permanent. Wouldn’t work at all for my situation.
@@YouthmanCan you leave a link for a video of yours about connecting multiple subwoofers ?
Sure. A quick search on TH-cam for Youthman Multiple Subwoofers shows both of them.
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@@Youthman Thanks. 👍